http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/stumper/archive/2008/07/07/for-mccain-money-talks.aspx
There were some of you that were whining about Sen. Obama's decision to decline public campaign financing. He had never undonconditionally agreed to accept public funds. The key word is unconditional. McCain would never agree to the terms. The link above will tell you why.
Be open minded and research - the media loves to only give you some of the facts to create controversy.
The talking heads and NeoCons are yammering on that Obama broke his word on public financing. He didn't. He agreed to aggressively pursue public financing and if his opponent did the same thing they could come to an accord. I speak English and understood this several months ago.
The Huffington Post blogged about this in February. The Obama campaign has carefully parsed their position on it, which I think was a mistake, but an understandable one in favor of the idea of fair play. Of course with 527s and all the stops pulled out on dirty politicking, who in their right mind would agree to public financing?
In a battle, you don't fight with one hand tied around your nether regions.
This is much ado about nothing. And for those who still are still missing the short bus: Obama's campaign is publicly financed by average Joes like you and me.
Of course, I'm currently up in arms about FISA, but give me a break on public financing.
Once Senator John McCain and the RNC began circumventing the McCain/Feingold limits via the creation of the “McCain Victory ‘08 Fund” with its $70,000 per individual donations they really left presumptive Democratic nominee Senator Barack Obama with no reason to keep extending his offer to limit campaign spending by accepting public financing. They sprang into faux outrage, of course, ready to accuse him of a flip-flop despite the fact they’d not accepted Obama’s conditional offer. Follow the money, not the spin, and you discover that this has gone virtually unreported. The commercial media outlets have a conflict of interest; reporting on the McCain fund undermines their profits.
This from talkingpointsmemo.com
MoveOn, the advocacy group supporting Barack Obama, has decided to permanently shutter its 527 operation, partly in response to the Illinois Senator's insistence that such groups should not spend on his behalf during the general election, I've learned from the group's spokesperson.MoveOn's decision, which will dramatically impact the way it raises money on Obama's behalf, is yet another sign of how rapidly Obama is taking control of the apparatus that's gearing up on his behalf. By shuttering its 527, MoveOn is effectively killing its ability to raise money in huge chunks from labor unions, foundations, and big donors who would give over $5,000. The decision doesn't mean MoveOn will stop spending on Obama's behalf. Instead it will raise money exclusively with its political action committee, whose average donation is below $50 and will even be raising money with things like bake sales starting this weekend.The move could also make it tougher politically for John McCain and the GOP to benefit from 527s, which can raise money in unlimited sums, on his side. While he has generally disapproved of such activity, he recently said that he couldn't control negative ads by such groups. "The hope is that Republicans will match this, so that the voices of ordinary Americans can drive this election," Hogue said.
MoveOn, the advocacy group supporting Barack Obama, has decided to permanently shutter its 527 operation, partly in response to the Illinois Senator's insistence that such groups should not spend on his behalf during the general election, I've learned from the group's spokesperson.
MoveOn's decision, which will dramatically impact the way it raises money on Obama's behalf, is yet another sign of how rapidly Obama is taking control of the apparatus that's gearing up on his behalf.
By shuttering its 527, MoveOn is effectively killing its ability to raise money in huge chunks from labor unions, foundations, and big donors who would give over $5,000. The decision doesn't mean MoveOn will stop spending on Obama's behalf. Instead it will raise money exclusively with its political action committee, whose average donation is below $50 and will even be raising money with things like bake sales starting this weekend.
The move could also make it tougher politically for John McCain and the GOP to benefit from 527s, which can raise money in unlimited sums, on his side. While he has generally disapproved of such activity, he recently said that he couldn't control negative ads by such groups.
"The hope is that Republicans will match this, so that the voices of ordinary Americans can drive this election," Hogue said.
The onslaught is coming. And it’s coming fast. The time is now for the Republican 527’s to define Obama. They know Obama is smart so they have to be smarter. Meaner. Bolder. And they’ll need some new tricks. Rove is ready.
The Republican 527’s have no positive cards to play so they’re going 100% negative. The fear machine swings into action: The pundit entertainers on Fox will hammer the smears home. The mainstream media will cheer them on.
There will be personal fears: He’s a Muslim, radical, antichrist, devil, deceiver and a black. Born in Africa, he isn’t eligible to be president. He’s an ultra-liberal out of touch with America. An opportunist with a secret long-term plan to become president. A secret member of al Qaeda. An evil member of a secret club of violent black activists – the new Black Panthers. A mysterious Wizard of Oz with a secret agenda to destroy America. The new Hitler. A magician with the power to hyptmotize millions at a time.
He has hypnotized millions of Democrats by his subliminal satanic words. How could so many people fall for him? He will ruin the America that we love. The founders would be shocked!
He has no experience. He’s in way over his head. These are challenging times. We can’t afford his mistakes. The wolves are circling. America’s enemies are coming. This is no time for a novice. We need an experienced military man.
There are policy fears: We will lose all that we’ve "accomplished" in Iraq. He wants to surrender. He will "dishonor" our troops. The Middle East will burn, oil will skyrocket, and terrorists will torture America. The Russians will rule the world. Along with the Chinese.
There will be discrimination against whites and Latinos, he will turn America into a Muslim nation. The end of religion. Gays run amok, gay marriage in your own church. Ten-minute abortions. The regulation of everything, the defense budget slashed, new wars, a higher tax bracket for whites, inflation, stagflation, gas lines, darkness and gloom. A costly effort to subsidize Africa. He will redistribute everyone’s wealth. Welfare for everyone. The nanny state. The end of affluence. The end of American competiveness in the word.
The Democrats will control both the White House and Congress. We can’t let that happen. It will ruin us all.
The images – both strong and subconscious – will be scary: an all-black cabinet, a unionized America, prisoners released all across the U.S., whites in slavery, starving Africans entering America by the boatload. Disease, famine, depression, violence, misery, despair and pain. No food on store shelves. Gasoline at $7 per gallon. Gas lines, foreclosures, terrorism, and a new civil war. The twin towers. A mushroom cloud. Hitler. Hurricane, tornado, ice storm, heat wave, earthquake, flood, drought, UFO, meteor shower. The sky is falling. It will be a colossal event – the Rapture is at hand....
BUT WAIT! I don’t think so. No Rapture this year. Not this time. Because in 2008 voters will Choose Hope, Not Fear.
And McCain isn’t the man from Hope. He doesn’t inspire much hope. Is his war hero story accurate? And if so, what does that get us? Being imprisoned is not the same as being a leader with sound judgment. He’s never held an executive position. Never managed anything. How embellished is his resume? What experience does he really have?
EXPERIENCE IS ONLY AS GOOD AS THE LESSONS YOU'VE LEARNED FROM IT.
McCain hasn’t learned the right lessons from experience.
McCain’s will not be a third Bush term. It will be a THIRD CHENEY TERM.
Is McCain someone we’ve known and "trusted" for years? Someone who is tested and ready on day one? Who really is he? Who is the real McCain? Which McCain is running this year?
McCain is mediocre at best. He’s not a top-notch mind. Did he almost flunk naval school? Maybe he’s a lucky loser. The truth is that the maverick image is phony. He is not what he seems. His strategy is to make a big PR splash on key issues then quietly vote the other way when no one is looking. Can you trust him? He’s reversed his positions on so many issues. Who is he? Don’t we deserve better? He’s an opportunist. He married into his political success. His rich sugar mama. McCain is an adulterer – let’s talk about that. What does that say about his values? Dishonest. Deceitful. Do conservatives want another womanizer in the White House? A campaign run by lobbyists. A founding member of the Keating Five. Don’t be fooled. If he is so brave with so much integrity why can’t he reel in the ugly Republican 527’s?
McCain: the straight talker with a crooked mind. All talk, no substance. He will loose his own state of Arizona in November.
Want to talk about fear? How about "Bomb, bomb Iran"? "Mushroom Cloud McCain" as the next "War President". Bring back the daisy commercial; we need it
Or better yet, someone should put this skit on YouTube: McCain working at McDonald’s McCain’s fast food chain. You can order an Iran War Burger, a Draft Your Kids Happy Meal and more.
Would you like nuclear warheads with that?
No disrespect, but I am gratified to see the blog commentary shift to McCain from Hillary.
IMO the anti-Hillary tirades have been over the top, and the big fight now begins: The really nasty Republican machinations and the 527's. Well, it's already begun, to wit, the Bush-appeasement fiasco.
The republican machine and the 527's.
What happens to Hillary's populist argument when she can't pass the Gas Tax Holiday in a Democratic Congress? How will she convince people that she can reach across the aisle and end gridlock when she can't even get her own party to rally behind her.
This will be the headline in November if people don't get behind Barack Obama. The Gas Tax promises Hillary made, but can't keep by any stretch of the imagination will end our hopes for an end to the Bush era. Hillary won Indiana by claiming she could give people a break on the gas tax - polls show that Rev Wright did not impact Obama much, if at all with white voters - his numbers remained steady, which says to me that once we have a nominee he won't have much trouble swaying white voters in the General once Hillary is no longer an option.
We need a Democrat in office and if a backroom deal takes the nomination away, one of the biggest wild cards no one is talking about for the general election is what will happen when Hillary's Gas Tax Stunt fails. McCain will say that even in a Democratic Congress and Senate Hillary did not keep her promise. He will say that it is even more proof that she is a politician that will say anything to get elected, but fail to deliver to the people that got her elected. McCain can simply blame the Democrats for a failure to pass the Gas Tax, saying it's further proof that Democrats don't care about the working class voter.
If Obama is the nominee he can simply show what happened in the past with Gas Tax Holidays. In the end they benefit Big Oil and Obama will use this as proof to the American people that McCain was pandering for votes. He can also say that with all of his experience McCain knew from the start who this "Holiday" would benefit and it will be more evidence that he is loyal to Big Business and Special Interests over all else. Over the past 8 years we have learned just how dangerous it is when Big Business essentially runs the government.
Even if you support Hillary or are undecided, tonights primaries have proven that she simply can't get the delegates to win. It's time to back the only viable candidate for the nomination before the Democratic Party self-destructs. If the Super Delegates have to decide this at the convention, we will have no time to come together to defeat McCain.
Hillary has to discount states or change rules to even make the argument that she can win the nomination. Obama has the math (any way you slice it), the money, the delegates, and the popular vote. Now Hillary is trying to change the number of delegates needed to win because she knows she can't reach the target currently set. It seems that if she can't win within the rules - change them again and again until she figures out a way to win.
So please, vote for the good of the American people and the Democratic Party. We can't win if the black community and voters under 40 stay home in November. We also need the Independents and Republicans that will vote for Obama but not Clinton. Many conservative voters will stay home rather than vote for McCain if Obama is the nominee, but the antipathy they have for the Clintons will cause them to come out en mass to defeat her if she somehow got the nomination.
Many Independents are upset with McCain for going so far to the right appease the extremist Jerry Fallwell/Pat Robertson contingent in the GOP. There are many that are sick of Bush and have left the GOP or gone a bit to the left because of a disasterous 8 years and the hold the extreme Christian Right now exerts on the party. Many have gone independent because of the war in Iraq and Obama has a much better shot of getting their votes than Hillary does. I have spoken to many of them when making phone calls for Senator Obama's campaign and I have changed quite a few minds and have swayed even more that were leaning towards Obama but still undecided to get behind him.
My final argument is that Hillary has not been "battle tested" as she claims. Obama has not stooped to Rovian tactics to get elected and McCain thus far has focused on Obama. In this election no one has not gone after her on any of her financial scandals. They have barely touched on her exaggeration of her foreign policy experience, neither has the main stream media. That will change drastically once this is a Democrat vs. Republican race instead of and intraparty struggle. If McCain and the GOP "Swiftboat" 527 organizations get to run against her in the General Election. They will also go after all of Bill Clintons pardons, Lincoln Bedroom "rentals," and Bill's Chinese business deals. This is going to get nasty, but Hillary has already dragged out anything she could get on Obama, and frankly all she can find is a couple of people he knows - nothing on the man himself.
Stephanie Marushia, Virginia Beach, VA
Two obstacles blocking Sen. Hillary Clinton's bid for the Presidential nomination are the public's perception of her as a woman who is willing to destroy anyone blocking her pursuit of political power and influence and lingering images of a Presidency blemished by scandals, law suits, impeachment and public disgrace.
During the past 8 years Senator Clinton has worked tirelessly to construct a new professional image that distinguishes her from her husband’s years in the Oval Office. However, she's been unable to reshape the public’s perception that she's a factious, self-centered person who's willing to win at any cost. In part, Clinton's persistence in running negative attacks against Sen. Obama have contributed to her ongoing negative personality appraisal.
In order to ensure a sccussful bid for the Democratic Presidential nomination, Clinton and a group of Democratic politicos set up a new independent 527 organization prior to the March 4, election primaries. The new organization is called the American Leadership Project (ALP). The purpose of ALP is to help Sen. Clinton defeat Sen. Barack Obama in the primaries leading up to the Democratic Convention.
The Federal Election Commission defines a 527 group as a political group organized under section 527 of the tax code and defined generally as a party, committee or association that is organized and operated primarily to influence the selection of a nominee for public office or political position. Sen. Clinton’s 527 group; American Leadership Project was established to help her to obtain the Democratic Presidential nomination while destroying Sen. Obama’s chances for winning.
i read about the 527 called, 'american leadership project' a couple of weeks ago.
i was not particularly surprised by the use of these tactics by the clinton campaign, but disappointed none the less. i took some time and located contact e-mail address for as many of the corporate interests directly involved in the organization and attempted to start a dialog with those in paid positions within the organization. while i knew it was a long shot, why not try, right? here is the email sent,
" To _______;
I've recently heard of your firm's involvement in the in the '527', the 'american leadership project'. I am curious about your specific role in the organization and am interested in learning more as to why you've chosen to participate.
I'm curious about the process and would like to hear more about the methodology you'll employ in achieving the 527's political agenda. I am also curious as to what if any personal investment you or your firm has in the project (are you simply hiring out your services in exchange for money/ political 'points', or do you have a personal stake in this).
while it is difficult for me to understand how a '527' enhances democracy, I assume you are in an excellent position in which to help me to understand. I'd be grateful for feedback as well as any light you can shed regarding how campaigning on behalf of a campaign indirectly, and for all practical purposes anonymously, improves the political debate between candidates.
Thank you very much. I look forward to communicating with you.
best regards, David Lloyd 425.753.7798 david@gollydesign.com "
As anyone reading this may have predicted, I received no response from any of those contacted. Anyone else interested in contacting any of the involved parties, here is the contact info I came up with,
remcho, johansen and purcell (lawyers defending the efforts of the 527)
510.346.6200
info@rjp.com
mattis goldman
info@dcomedia.com
erick mullen
help@mullenandcompany.com
Jason Kinney
jkinney@calstrat.com
***** UPDATE
while contacting these individuals two weeks ago proved difficult without any special connections, it seems near imposibble as of today. most of their sites seem to be down and contact info is difficult at best to obtain. please take a shot yourself if you have time/ inclanation. :D
A new poll done by Reuters, C-SPAN and the Houston Chronicle (2/26-2/28) shows that Obama trails Clinton in Ohio by only 2 points and has a substantial 6 point lead in Texas! The time is now for us in Ohio to show what a good organization can accomplish when we are motivated by an inspiring leader. See the report on the new poll below.
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/clinton-barely-edging-out-obama/story.aspx?guid=%7B624CF7C2-4FAB-4F95-BB49-41B9B6C34F35%7D
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/02/20/684411.aspx?p=1
And McCain's campaign hires people like Bill Cunningham to introduce McCain:
http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080227/NEWS01/302270009
Obama continues to stay on the high road, discussing issues and the differences between him and the others while not making vile and negative remarks.
This is just one more reason why I support and am working hard to help Barack Obama become our nominee and our next President. He is a class act all around. It is also the reason, I'm sure, that he is reluctant to make a firm comittment to public finance money for the General Election. He knows how many Republicans abuse the rules that govern 527 groups, which prohibit advocacy for a specific candidate or defaming another specific candidate directly, but THEY DO IT ANYWAY! You can't trust them to play by the rules! Remember the "Swift Boaters" and how they attacked Kerry!! Stay with Obama, Stay on the high road. America will respond and he will be our president and he will enhance the world's view of America and help restore the American Dream!
It’s interesting, I’m starting hear the term “cult” used when referring to the organized support for the Obama campaign. Ironically from the GOP side; yes the group of people who are best known for their methodical collective of ignorance. I truly believe that we the Obama supporters have come to terms with the fact that we need a collective force, a hard hitting and yes, almost cult-like force. I am in no delusion about the reality of what could happen if Obama were to get into the White House. He could be another Jimmy Carter. However unlike Carter; Obama has a great instinct about the world and the understanding of what it takes to mobilize people and resources which then can translate into votes for policy changes. Let it be known, our so-called “cult” does not follow a leader, but is built from the collective force of the masses; this is the future, where people interconnected can set the tone and bring the force and focus to a message and a campaign. This is true social politics.
Wow, I don't know what sort of magic Maggie Williams brought to the table, but obviously this part of a larger strategy... and its working. Talk about positive spin recovery, the gamble is working... but not quite good enough. The divide and confuse part did not work, and in fact served to rally our throops even more so. This rallying dynamic was an unknown to them and to me, and I must say I am more than pleasantly surprised. We are at 1,000,050 donors at 4:05AM CST. Amazing, really amazing.
Despite loosing, she set a tone, and created a powerful reference frame, all good things for her donor pool, and her future career in politics, but its no where near enough to bypass our momentum. Short of a major happening in the next few days, she is likely finished. Yet, the American Leadership Project (the 527 set up to campaign for her...iffy I know) still could have a lot of cards to play over the next week... thus, we need to keep on the phone, and keep on donating. We must not let our guard down.
If you haven't donated yet, even $5 helps. My initial target is 100 donors of $5 each, and then I'll raise the bar, and keep on breaking the thermometer. My donation page is at
http://my.barackobama.com/page/outreach/view/main/RonAmundson
If you haven't made any calls yet, by all means check out the Barack's inspired phone bank army. We had a conference call last friday night, and it was incredibly helpful... and I'm a newbie there.
http://my.barackobama.com/page/group/BaracksInspiredPhoneBankArmy
If any member of the group Beards for Obama donates to my page within the next 72 hours, I'll kick in an extra $50 this weekend, and delay cutting mine until Barack win's the nomination.
http://my.barackobama.com/page/group/BeardsforObama
Yes we can!
Fellow Obama Supporters -- Yesterday we learned that a few well-connected supporters of Sen. Clinton are attempting to raise $10 million to spend in the upcoming March 4th primaries.
This so-called “independent” group will produce “issue” ads that mirror the Clinton speeches versus solutions talking points. The group, "American Leadership Project" is organized as a “527,” which enables a few wealthy individuals to pump money into political campaigns because they are not “openly advocating” for one candidate.
This “527” is, coincidentally, organized in the same manner as the despicable “Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.” We all know how that one worked out.
However, Barack Obama has something that no few well-heeled supporters of Sen. Clinton can muster. That is, the support and enthusiasm of a movement that is roughly one million strong.
Let’s show the “American Leadership Project” and like-minded groups that their efforts to skirt the spirit of campaign finance laws will only be in vein. Please support Barack’s campaign by making a small contribution.
If you are like me, you are probably already about tapped out with regards to contributions. Therefore, I’m submitting $5.27 as a message that the power of the people trumps wealthy well-heeled insiders.
Please join me:
My Fundraising Page
Thank you,
Jeff Cronin
A 527 organization is being formed to hurl negatives at Senator Barack Obama. This "powerful" group is supporting Hillary Clinton. It is amazing to me that another Democrat would so viciously attack another. This is really scary and I will not remain in a party so divided they would do something like this. It is bad enough Hillary Clinton sided with Republican John McCain on the campaign finance issue. The Republicans know Obama will out raise them 3 to 1 so McCain starts his campaign to undermine Obama.
Obama should hit John McCain on his own turf and that would be the flip flops he has made. If you want to attack Obama's character, get his on the flip flops.
You must convince folks we will work through consensus. As a team we can work together as individuals we stand alone and for self.
ABC News has learned that a group of Democratic politicos have set up a new independent 527 organization called the American Leadership Project (ALP) with the express purpose of helping Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, beat Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, in Ohio, and possibly Texas and Pennsylvania as well. ...
... ... ALP has developed three ads aimed at pushing the idea that Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, is a talker and not a doer -- the ads are called “If speeches could solve problems" -- and they will contrast Obama and Clinton on issues of importance to middle class voters, such as the economy, health care, and the mortgage crisis.
"Our purpose is to encourage audiences to look beyond the campaign speeches and political rhetoric to specific proposals to address these core issues," says an ALP mission statement obtained by ABC News. ... ..
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/02/new-pro-clinton.html
This is so disheartening to me. One reason I'm supporting Obama is because he wouldn't let this happen if it were his supporters doing the same. MoveOn's campaign for his candidacy isn't smearing Clinton like this group plans to smear Obama.
I'll be glad when this is over on Mar. 4th.
Senator Obama didn't say he would pledge to take public finance money. He said that he would discuss it with the Republican nominee if he were the Democratic nominee.
Senator Obama should NOT take public financing. Sure, it would level the playing field for McCain which is good for him but Senator Obama can raise significant sums of money. The major reason that is important is because the right-wing conservatives will donate huge sums of money to 527s and try to "swiftboat" Obama. He can't fight that with public financing. He just can't and the campaign watchdog groups should understand that.