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Open Thread: The American Promise
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- Nov 14th, 2008 at 10:49 pm EST
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♦ Gigi
Nov 14th 2008 at 10:55 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:55 pm EST)
wow! am I?
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Patrice from Gardena, CA
Nov 14th 2008 at 10:56 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:56 pm EST)
Congrats Gigi.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 7:17 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 7:17 am EST)
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Nov 15th 2008 at 10:16 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 10:16 am EST)
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CHELSEA
Nov 18th 2008 at 4:21 am EST (Updated Nov 18th 2008 at 4:21 am EST)
I am watching Lou Dobbs.
They say that PE Obama stated in Dec. 07--that there will be "No Lobbyists in the White House"(this is what I have believed to be true), now it's changed--they can be there just not actively lobbying now during the transition--WHAT IS GOING ON HERE? Is CNN misunderstanding, lying or is this true?
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Eric from Oklahoma City, OK
Nov 14th 2008 at 11:03 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:03 pm EST)
Yes, you are.
Check out my Obama blog if you get a chance.
Here's the link......
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ObamaEqualsChange.com
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Lace; Yes We Did
Nov 14th 2008 at 11:23 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:23 pm EST)
Congrats :)
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Nov 15th 2008 at 3:58 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 3:58 am EST)
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Paula from Appalachia eastern Kentucky
Nov 15th 2008 at 12:11 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:11 am EST)
Congrats Gigi!
But hubby is asleep and I just did a $30 donation for the victory T-shirt, lol!
Some background...
We've been living happily well below the poverty level for about a decade (we're very self-sufficient farmers, so that's pretty much par for the course).
But Hurricane Ike hit and our lives changed dramatically.
Hubby got a phone call to go back to work restoring power (IBEW power crews). Hubby said yes to the call and then spent a week or more apologizing for not discussing it with me,
He's making more in a week now than I make in a month (I've been the main bread winner for more than a decade).
In any event, hubby this morning quietly suggested that we make a regular $50 monthly donation to the local food pantry where I volunteer for at least 10 hours a month (and when we really needed food when we were needing it the past year, it's my honor to still serve at the food pantry).
All that is just background...
I had an Obama T-shirt show up in the mail on Thursday when hubby brought in the mail that evening (he comes home Thursday evening after being away to work since Sunday afternoon).
I like the T-shirt that showed up but I wanted the Victory shirt as well, so I donated another $30 to the DNC.
shhhhh!!!!
Don't tell my hubby!
Paula...a Kentucky Republican for Obama!!!
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Nov 15th 2008 at 8:30 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 8:30 am EST)
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Updates: No need to bloviate much about Hillary Clinton and SOS. Impossible to keep the possibility under wraps because she was seen leaving Barack's HQ and people can add. And, as the following source indicates, it is a tough choice for her if she accepts. Controllable star power has its merits. + Dear Media: Did Lincoln "govern from the center" when he issued the Emancipation Proclamation?
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Barack Obama Baby
Nov 15th 2008 at 2:50 pm EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 2:50 pm EST)
I'm glad that Barack Obama is the President and I'm happy to have been apart of it. However, now that he is President, he has a lot of work to do and I will be holding him accountable.
I want to see what he will do to help the people in the Sudan and Darfur.
How will you help them President Obama? I'm so tired of fighting wars over oil and power, how about fighting for the preseverence of life?
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motorboy
Nov 14th 2008 at 10:55 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:55 pm EST)
Wasup?
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A fellow patriot
Nov 14th 2008 at 11:04 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:04 pm EST)
wasuuuuuup
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Patrice from Gardena, CA
Nov 14th 2008 at 11:05 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:05 pm EST)
So if there's any truth to the speculation that HRC may become Sec. of State then what happens to John Kerry. Will he be considered in the new administration.
I'm wondering because as I stated earlier, if it had not been for John Kerry, Barack may not be where he is today. John Kerry asked him to make that famous keynote speech.
I guess I have a soft spot in my heart for John Kerry. I think he was mis-treated in his bid for president. Also I believe that John Kerry and his wife Thearsa have been extremely loyal to Barack.
I suppose I am wearing my heart on my keyboard right now because I hate to see Kerry and other loyal supporters overlooked. It's just my opinion but I have always believe that excellence and loyalty should be rewarded.
I like Bill Richardson too!
Let me be clear,I am "LOYAL" to Barack and this movement so of course I'm on board; lips poking out but on board.
This is a repost from the last thread.
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Czarina Jacqueline O'Boomer - "O' beautiful, for spacious skies"
Nov 14th 2008 at 11:10 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:10 pm EST)
Patrice - I think you're expressing what a lot of us feel and, of course, I'm onboard with whatever the result, as well.
But ... fingers crossed.
I love John (statesman, not afraid to speak more than one language - LOL) and Teresa (philanthropist, not afraid to say what she feels). I love Bill Richardson, too.
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Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus!
Nov 14th 2008 at 11:18 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:18 pm EST)
I agree Jacqueline!
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BIGO
Nov 14th 2008 at 11:54 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:54 pm EST)
Hold on; just because these names have not come up does not mean that President Elect Obama has forgotten how much these gentlemen contributed and the support they gave early in his campaign. There are lots of positions to be filled and I guarantee you that the President Elect has not forgotten about the ones who supported him early in the process when it was not expedient to do so. We trusted him with the position; trust his judgment to make good choices!!!!!!!
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Czarina Jacqueline O'Boomer - "O' beautiful, for spacious skies"
Nov 15th 2008 at 12:14 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:14 am EST)
As I mentioned, I'm onboard with whatever the result, whomever Barack picks.
I totally trust him to make the best decision he can make; just mentioning some of my personal favorites.
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Obama Grandmama
Nov 15th 2008 at 2:13 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 2:13 am EST)
Obama is choosing whom he thinks will be the most benefit to the country in that job instead of the traditional award of spoils to those who helped him win. I am sure he wants to help all but only has so many spaces. Remember our last President rewarding a horse breeder benefactor with the job of FEMA? That is an example of the spoils to the faithful supporter instead of the best person for the job. I do not pretend to know whom would be best suited to the job. I gave him latitude to choose whom he thinks is best.
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CHELSEA
Nov 18th 2008 at 4:53 am EST (Updated Nov 18th 2008 at 4:53 am EST)
Appointing the SOS job should not be about friendship or just loyalty--but who is the BEST QUALIFIED individual to take on this awesome responsibility and to signal peace to the world as opposed to a neocon Bush-like hawk mentality.
Clinton voted lock step with Bush, that signal does not bode well with me--you think it will for people in the ME?
Statements made such as "Obliterate Iran" are just as childish, unprofessional and as careless as McCain singing "Bomb, Bomb, Bomb, Bomb, Iran."
I'm tired of this mentality, how about you?
Make your voice heard.
The world is watching, the job of SOS is too important to give to an unqualified or polarizing individuals--have we not learned from the last miserable 8 years???
I'm a progressive, I want nothing more to do with the legacy of the last decades.
We can change things and go forward--or go BACK.
Peace.
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Leslie from Logan, UT
Nov 14th 2008 at 11:12 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:12 pm EST)
John Kerry is brilliant. I think that President Obama should also consider the viewpoints of Ron Paul. Ron Paul would be an incredible asset.
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Dottie
Nov 15th 2008 at 4:10 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 4:10 am EST)
I too always thought that Kerry was brilliant but actually he graduated college with a similar GPA as George Bush. Kerry's wife is brilliant.
Kerry is a loose cannon.
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★Hold Firmly Without Wavering,To The Hope That We Confess★- bonnie4Obama of MD
Nov 14th 2008 at 11:14 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:14 pm EST)
Yes, I'd like to know what happened to Kerry. I
really thought he was on the short list for SOS and I can't find any recent reports on this? What do you think family?
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marytnurse, supporting Barack Obama until I see his library built on donations from We The People
Nov 14th 2008 at 11:43 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:43 pm EST)
he's on the list. he's quite possibly one of the best, least dramatic picks. which is vitally important to O.
i'm putting NO stake in this whole rumor mill. while many times leaks happen, THIS time, the press complains OFTEN of how little information is avaiable, so if someone (like stephanopoulis) intimates that she's considered, and then someone leaks that they met, and then she laughs about it....they freak out. i know there are "other" confirmations, but i don't buy that of his well over 700 'advisors' they all know everything about what is going on.
and IF he vets her (and the latest rumor IS in fact that she's asked for more time to consider it...which indeed seems not to even be true according to the other rumor...where's the no drama????) AND she does well in answering the many questions, and IF he then decides, with the help of those he trusts, that she is the best pick.....IF....then much like the vote on FISA, i will concede that i don't have the level of information and advisors that he does and he may just know more than i.
i didn't get elected POTUS of the US, nor did i get hired by the campaign as an advisor. if you have the qualifications, you are welcomed to apply at change.gov.
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Connie Obama (Not held hostage by polls or media)
Nov 14th 2008 at 11:59 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:59 pm EST)
marytnurse, I couldn't agree with you more. I even turned off Keith tonight! The only drama I see is the media churning and going into a tizzy over scraps of rumor, trying to manufacture drama!
Barack's spokesperson has said they "will not comment on speculations". Full stop. Period. They know Kerry and Richardson are also being considered so why are they not talking about them?
Because the Clintons usually make for higher ratings.
I will wait for the announcement from Barack himself at this point. The media is rediculous!
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4earth, WA ☂
Nov 15th 2008 at 12:45 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:45 am EST)
I think all three have their pluses, most of which have been discussed here and elsewhere. My question is, do we want to take so many good people out of the senate? Remember, with Barack gone and Biden too, we are down two and their replacements will undoubtedly be Dems but now as senior. If we take out Kerry and or Hillary (she could also be AG don't forget) that's two more. I've heard talk of a cabinet post for Dodd too. Man, we're going to empty the senate!
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Dottie
Nov 15th 2008 at 3:36 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 3:36 am EST)
John Kerry puts his foot in his mouth a lot of times that is why he lost his bid for president. Hillary is an intelligent woman and she did help Obama get elected. If she had not gone out there and campaigned maybe 80% of her supporters would not have voted for him. She sure helped him get PA.
Remember one of Kerry's stupid statements about those without a college degree get stuck in Iraq. That is in insult to our troops.
Hillary will not embarrass Obama and she would be the best choice.
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Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus!
Nov 14th 2008 at 11:17 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:17 pm EST)
No Hillary. I like Kerry also Patrice and Gov. Richardson
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CHELSEA
Nov 18th 2008 at 4:38 am EST (Updated Nov 18th 2008 at 4:38 am EST)
Hillary won't humiliate us--really??? What about all that sniper fire in Bosnia and brokering peace in Ireland and don't forget she didn't read the report before signing on to the disastrous Iraqi war and she'll "obliterate Iran"--I'm sure that went over well in the ME...sigh........
As though Obama could not have won without her, please.
Yes, she did help--now question about that but then again she had to do over time after the ugliness of the primaries.
Bill Richardson was there with us during shaky times (Ayers/Wright nonscence). Richardson is good man but much more importantly, he's qualified too.
HOPE is still beating in my nervous heart.....
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Andréa- (You've called him everything else- now call him Mr. President!)
Nov 14th 2008 at 11:20 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:20 pm EST)
Again,
What are the duties of Sec. of State? What is their primary goal.
I've seen a lot of rhetoric (in some cases hate) regarding Sen. Clinton as Sec. of State. Why is she not qualified and John Kerry suddlenly is- because he wasn't mean to PE Obama? I mean that's nice and all but I want the best and brightest and not the nicest.
The boss will be PE Obama, his goal among other things is to get these folks working towards the common goal: his vision as to how this country should be run.
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Patrice from Gardena, CA
Nov 14th 2008 at 11:32 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:32 pm EST)
Andrea, look back on the last thread. I posted the "job responsibilities". But if not, here you go....These include negotiating with foreign representatives and instructing U.S. embassies or consulates abroad. The Secretary also serves as a principal adviser to the President in the determination of U.S. foreign policy and, in recent decades, has become responsible for overall direction, coordination, and supervision of interdepartmental activities of the U.S. Government overseas, excepting certain military activities.
I had to research this because I wasn't totally sure either. Most of SOS work is in foriegn policy.
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Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus!
Nov 14th 2008 at 11:40 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:40 pm EST)
Thanks Patrice!
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4earth, WA ☂
Nov 15th 2008 at 12:56 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:56 am EST)
The SOS also runs the entire State Department. He/She is the head of it. There are thousands of employees, the entire career diplomatic corps. The ambassadors of embassies all around the world are political appointees, but the staffs are all career workers. Aside from being representatives of the US to the countries they are in, they also serve to be a lifeline to Americans abroad. As someone who has spent many years living abroad, I cannot tell you how important that is!
So the SOS is more than a negotiator with important countries. They must make that whole huge, very vital, department, which is spread all over the world, run like a clock.
Next to being president, it is probably the most important job in the US government.
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John Hay - An Australian for Barack
Nov 15th 2008 at 5:59 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 5:59 am EST)
Well said. And for that reason the outstanding candidate is Governor Bill Richardson for Secretary of State. My latest article deals with this matter. It is titled..
Clinton: Healthcare = Mission Possible..
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John..
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CHELSEA
Nov 18th 2008 at 4:41 am EST (Updated Nov 18th 2008 at 4:41 am EST)
Yes, Yes, Richardson is more qualified for SOS, no IFS, ANDS OR BUTS ABOUT IT!
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Viva Obama so proud to have voted for HOPE and to have rejected the hype
Nov 15th 2008 at 2:11 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 2:11 am EST)
anyone who says hillary is more qualified than john kerry on anything does not know what the he77 they are talking about. john kerry has been meeting with foreign leaders most times unpublicized because he is about doing good and not looking good doing it. kerry was qualified to be president and was nominated as the democratic candidate just 4 years ago so why on earth could he not be qualified now. but i do agree that we should not empty the senate and we should let go of all these people espeially those that worked in clinton admin. i also agree that there are numerous untapped talents and barack of all people knows that. we must tap the talents this country has. the clinton folks were of the 90s we need 21st century up and coming leaders. the clinton folks can be unofficial advisers and i don't think they'd mind. think about it. if they were not given the chance by bill clinton how could they have put their talents to the utmost use. please clinton folks, make way. and please barack tap the vast talent this nation has. this is one case where i am against reusing/recycling. thank you.
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Czarina Jacqueline O'Boomer - "O' beautiful, for spacious skies"
Nov 14th 2008 at 11:37 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:37 pm EST)
Andrea - Luckily, I left my hate back in the primary (although I was worried about that for awhile). Then after Barack was elected, I lost any bad feelings against ... you know.
If Barack is bringing in his "Team of Rivals," so be it - and if it's Hillary, I'm behind him 100%. I feel she is fully qualified, and if he can deal with her, so can I! Some of us are just adding other names so we can say nice things about those possible choices, too, since - unlike the new Palin Party - we have a wealth of candidates who would gladly join Obama's team - both Dem. and Rep.
That said, my own devilish choice for Attorney General (although he's probably too junior in experience) would be David Iglesias of New Mexico, one of the U.S. attorneys dismissed by Bush and gang for political reasons.
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marytnurse, supporting Barack Obama until I see his library built on donations from We The People
Nov 14th 2008 at 11:51 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:51 pm EST)
great idea for AG! Iglesias is smart, still a republican who would be willing to investigate, i'd think, and be ethical in so doing!
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Connie Obama (Not held hostage by polls or media)
Nov 14th 2008 at 11:41 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:41 pm EST)
Andrea, I suggest you read up on Sen. Kerry's qualifications. You will find he has more than 20 years of foreign policy experience, is a decorated veteran and speaks several languages for starters.
He's not just nice. His experience and that of Gov. Richardson are ACTUAL, not tangential. And to my knowledge, neither does business with foreign countries or accepts donations from them, something that would be a definite conflict of interest for a SOS, wouldn't you think?
Both Kerry and Richardson have also ACTUALLY been involved in direct diplomacy versus just knowing heads of states as a spouse of a POTUS. These are the facts and not a personal attack on Hillary.
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Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus!
Nov 15th 2008 at 12:26 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:26 am EST)
I agree Connie!
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Viva Obama so proud to have voted for HOPE and to have rejected the hype
Nov 15th 2008 at 2:16 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 2:16 am EST)
i agree too! which was why i was shocked out of my mind when media started making news of this.
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Beverly from Harrison Township, MI
Nov 15th 2008 at 7:39 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 7:39 am EST)
I'vew read all the comments, and if rumor is true, I think it was ok for Pres. Obama to feel out what other are thinking about who should be SOS. Offer Hillary one of the top cabinet positions, NO. It should have been the Health Care Crisis position because that's her passion. But SOS, no! This has got to be a joke.
I don't think Hillary will be SOState.
Hillary has to become more rational and logical in her thinking if she wants to work for the Obama administration of CHANGE. Plus, she's lacking in foreign policy experience abroad, and she's not the favorite amongst foreign dignitaries. Does she speak any other language than English?
For SOS, what about Colin Powel, John Kerry, Bill Richardson, Condi Rice, Al Gore, even Chris Dodd?
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Beverly from Harrison Township, MI
Nov 15th 2008 at 7:39 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 7:39 am EST)
I'vew read all the comments, and if rumor is true, I think it was ok for Pres. Obama to feel out what other are thinking about who should be SOS. Offer Hillary one of the top cabinet positions, NO. It should have been the Health Care Crisis position because that's her passion. But SOS, no! This has got to be a joke.
I don't think Hillary will be SOState.
Hillary has to become more rational and logical in her thinking if she wants to work for the Obama administration of CHANGE. Plus, she's lacking in foreign policy experience abroad, and she's not the favorite amongst foreign dignitaries. Does she speak any other language than English?
For SOS, what about Colin Powel, John Kerry, Bill Richardson, Condi Rice, Al Gore, even Chris Dodd?
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Sans Doute
Nov 14th 2008 at 11:31 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:31 pm EST)
I hope it's Kerry or Richardson. Both have been strong supporters from day one, unlike the Clintons. And Richardson had to deal with a LOT of BS for supporting Obama, including the name calling from Clinton backers.
Aside from that, with the ClintonS in there, everyone, with the exception of 2 or 3 (??) are tied to the Clintons in one fashion or another. I feel like I'm reliving the Clinton Admin all over again.
For the life of me, I just can't see Obama making such a huge mistake by having the Clintons in that spot. As for that whole "Team of Rivals" thing... it didn't work out too well for Lincoln, either. And the "keep your friends close, and your enemies closer" strategy, Obama will have more than enough enemies to deal with, so why add more.
OK. With all that said, I'm actually reaching the point where I no longer care. I feel as if I'm at the end of my rope right now, and it's going to take YEARS before we can dig our way out of this enormous hole Bush and Paulson have buried us in. I see lots of money going to bailout Wall St. and the auto industry while nothing being done to actually get to the root of the problem and DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. I just want our lame ass gov't officials to stop throwing money at the likes of AIG, GM, Ford, Chrysler, JP Morgan, American Express... and the list goes on.... and START DOING something for the taxpayers!
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Patrice from Gardena, CA
Nov 14th 2008 at 11:34 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:34 pm EST)
I agree totally with all you said.
This financial mess is overwhelming. I'm trying to remain positive but it seems like the initial 750Billion will partly be wasted and for what.
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Sans Doute
Nov 14th 2008 at 11:43 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:43 pm EST)
Every month thousands of people are losing their jobs and/or their homes, and it feels as if there's no end in sight. My income has gone from half to ZERO since April. At the moment, I'm trying to decide how much I really, REALLY need my health insurance because the premium just jumped up THIRTY THREE PERCENT! My credit cards are starting to melt. Oddly enough, the bank raised my credit limit yesterday -- which I did not ask them to do! I asked them to lower my interest rate since I've had this card for over 20 years. They lowered the rate by a whopping 1 percent and tossed in that increased credit line. ugh.
I can tell that so many of us -- too many -- are really hurting right now and rapidly losing hope. We all WANT to keep hoping... keep hanging on... but that thread sure is getting mighty thin.
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Cynthia Bartley of Portland, OR
Nov 15th 2008 at 10:14 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 10:14 am EST)
Speak up- you are right. Your voice matters.
I expressed outrage and clear reasons why the stock markets have been artificially supported by the tax codes, etc over real job growth.
Credit is given out with excessive charges to those who can least pay- why??
the explanation that it protects the lender is nonsense. It simply makes it impossible for the borrower to ever escape debt.
I just spent the morning emailing all my incoming and outgoing congress members, Pelosi, and the transition team.
You do not need to just hope- but send your ideas/outrage to Washingon
Obama has kicked the lobbyists out- this transition time was usually spent with lobbyists buying the new admin- its now us- so lets email our Congress with our ideas- we have the power- its not all Obama-
to those who can- the transistion and DNC needs funding to prove we don't need lobbyists.
Finally- I am reading bad attacks about the website change.gov
I do not really see a strong pro- Obama presence on the news blogs. We need to get out there and email/blog to help the other 40 million Americans understand Obama and what he is doing. They are bothered by the openness/transparency- rather than seeing it as a work in progress open for all to see the thought process- they attack it.
Our work has just started-lets get the action over to his new website change.gov and the news blogs
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Nov 14th 2008 at 11:41 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:41 pm EST)
I agree with most of what you said!
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Nov 14th 2008 at 11:47 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:47 pm EST)
Sans,
I've heard similar statements from folks who were remarking how many former Clinton folks were involved in the transition.
I guess for me it makes sense. Besides Clinton what other Democrat has held office? I know Jimmy Carter did... 30 years ago. It would make sense to tap the folks of the most recent Dem. president. I think people are painting (unfairly) these advisors with the broad brush of all things Clinton. If you hate (and I do mean hate) Bill or Hillary, your hate somehow trickles down to anyone ever associated with them. Not cool.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:04 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:04 am EST)
>> If you hate (and I do mean hate) Bill or Hillary, your hate somehow trickles down to anyone ever associated with them.
That's quite the assumption. Truth is, I don't really know the vast majority of people associated with the Clintons. I can't say that I "hate" the Clintons; hate is such a strong word. However, I have absolutely no respect for them, and I do hate all the things she said/did during the primaries in her attempt to paint Obama as nothing more than a talking suit. She even gave McCain more credit for his knowledge/experience than she gave to Obama.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 4:03 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 4:03 am EST)
What about Biden? He said that Obama was not qualified to be President.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 4:47 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 4:47 am EST)
Well now, Dottie, you know THAT doesn't count around here. That Biden said, during the primary, that Barack wasn't qualified, that the presidency was no place for on the job training, etc. Lol.
I just know this. Come January 21st, this thing is on for real. People are likely going to figure out real quick who the "enemy" really is, who the obstructionists are, the critics, the naysayers, etc. They are going to find out real quick that the "enemy" was never, is still not and will never be Hillary Clinton.
In fact, I wouldn't be surprised to hear some of the folks around here saying (especially if Hillary stays in the Senate for New York), things very similar to what they said during the general campaign against the GOP, "Where's Hillary? What's she doing about this? What's she doing to help? Where's Bill. We need Bill." etc.
Mark my words.
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Nov 14th 2008 at 11:52 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:52 pm EST)
Sans Doute, many people here feel as you do about so many Clinton people involved in the transition team as well as appointees. However, I do feel that Barack needs some people who know how to navigate DC's political landscape of how to get things done.
People who have always worked in Chicago or other places will not have this experience. I'm sure where he can Barack will add some new faces, but frankly I want him to have help from folks who know what they're doing and can have his back.
Where else is he going to get them from? The repubs? Clinton just happened to be our last dem. POTUS so the experienced Dems. HAVE to come from that pool. I think Barack is savvy enough to pick ones who'll be loyal to him. Look at those Clintonistas who supported him from the beginning, Greg Craig, Axelrod, Robt. Reich and others. I trust Barack.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:10 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:10 am EST)
I blindly trust no one, including Obama. HOWEVER, I do believe that he has the intelligence, instinct, and the uncanny ability to stay 2 steps ahead of everyone else. If not, he certainly would not be where he is right now.
I do understand your point regarding the need to bring in a lot of Clinton folks, but I also (somehow) feel that Kerry, or Richardson, would have his back far more often than the lime-light-sucking Clintons would have, especially when traveling abroad. The Clintons always have, and always will, put their own ambitions first.
As I was saying in another post, none of this really matters since we have absolutely no say so when it comes to the selections. It's not as if we get to vote on this, and it's not as if those making the selections are going to even for a second consider how the general population feels about their choices. These choices are not ours to make. At best, all we can do is talk about it.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:29 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:29 am EST)
Very good points Still!
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:12 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:12 am EST)
Connie, I agree. I am reposting from End the War's blog
Gov Bill Richardson - Not enough gravitas for my tastes????
U.S. Senate Senator
U.S. Energy Secretary - Unanimously confirmed
Cut waste and created further accountability at the Dept of Energy
Two-thirds of his appointments went to women and minorities
Ambassador to the U.N.
Nominated 5 times for the Noble Peace Prize
Served as a special envoy on many sensitive international missions.
Successfully won the release of hostages, American servicemen, and prisoners in North Korea, Iraq, and Cuba. also secured the release of an Albuquerque resident who was kept hostage in Sudan.
Supported by Democrats, Republicans and Independents
Became NM Governor - Reelected by 69% of voters
Improve education, cut taxes, built a high-wage economy
Champions Environmental causes
Cut taxes for working families and raising the minimum wage
Balanced budget and the highest reserves in state history
Unemployment rate that is the lowest in state history
NM most ethnically diverse in the country.
National leader in job growth and economic momentum
Chairman of the Democratic Governor's Association
Raised more than $28 million for gubernatorial candidates
Taught courses on government at New Mexico State Univ, Harvard Univs Kennedy School of Government and the United World College
His career is in public service, academia and the private sector
Received BA from Tufts and a MA from Tuft's Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy in 1971.
Chair of Freedom House, a private, non-partisan organization that promotes democracy worldwide
Can bring in the Hispanic and Latino voters
Speaks Spanish
Was one of the first big Democrats to endorse Barrack
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Nov 15th 2008 at 7:47 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 7:47 am EST)
I'm not in favor of the Clinton's being in any high end cabinet position right now. I'm truly sick of them being considered for anything besides the healthcare crisis or something like that. They do not represent the REAL CHANGE we need in today's society. Hillary was devisive during the campaign, so what makes us think she won't come with her own agenda or ulterior motives. SOS, this must be a joke right!
Does she speak any other language than English?
For SOS: what about Colin Powel, John Kerry, Bill Richardson, Condi Rice, Al Gore, even Chris Dodd?
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V-Day
Nov 14th 2008 at 11:32 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:32 pm EST)
Good question. On a side note TGIF. I will say at the end of the day you have to ask yourself whatever it will take to yield success for this economy is the clear choice.
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Scott in PA
Nov 15th 2008 at 10:53 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 10:53 am EST)
Personally, I think Kerry is the most qualified. He speaks several languages. He is decorated war veteran.
He has been involved in international affairs over the years in many capacities, including fighting for human rights, fighting against international crime, and drug trafficking, worked hard on the Global AIDS and Tuberculosis Relief Act of 2000, was chairman of the Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs, and the list goes on.
The guy seems like a perfect fit to me.
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Scott in PA
Nov 15th 2008 at 11:10 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:10 am EST)
My languages comment was incorrect. Just looked it up and it seems Kerry speaks only French as an extra language. It is actually his wife that speaks several others.
Still, it seems to me that he is highly qualified and I feel as if he would truly do the job as a servant to the people. Rather than as a personal achievement, like Hillary.
NO HILLARY.
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Jeanne, "who volunteers at the pleasure of the President" in Eugene, Oregon
Nov 15th 2008 at 11:10 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:10 am EST)
I'd like to see Hillary on the Supreme Court. Now that makes sense!
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Nov 15th 2008 at 11:22 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:22 am EST)
i know exactly how you feel. i gotta lot of respect for john kerry and i've always thought he would make an excellent pick for VP or Sec. of State. my other choice is bill richardson. these men have the knowledge and experience to hold the position for Sec. of State, no doubt about that.
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Nov 14th 2008 at 11:11 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:11 pm EST)
YES WE CAN TO PRESIDENT-ELECT BARACK OBAMA, NO WE CAN'T TO SECRETARY PAULSON....................... ...........For 8 years while we may not have believed what we were being fed and our intake of antiacids was equal to the National Debt, we were stuck with what we had. In 67 days these greedy, non caring thieves will be gone. We have to call, e-mail and write our senators and congressmen NOW to stop Paulson and his cronies from getting more money and to DEMAND someone look over what has taken place up until now. 6 weeks ago we were told if the money ($750 billion aka $810 billion) was not immediately given the world would end, the sky would fall, the country would cease to exist. It took 2 weeks before they actually got the ok to get the money and guess what, the world,, the sky and the country were still pretty much still there. And even now, alomost 2 months later look around, there's a world, a sky and a USA. Now mid way through their panic alert they want us to believe there is a better direction for the money. I said it six weeks ago and I will say it agin. A bailout is for people in jail and prison so lets put the money with the definition, put these criminals behind bars and when they ask for a bailout at least for once, they will be speaking the truth. Isn't it bad enough that most of us will have no Xmas this year, fight to save our homes and jobs and hope no one in our family gets sick? We found our way when we elected Barack Obama our next president, let's stay on that same path. Please contact your state Reps, Congressmen and Senators and put a halt to this outpouring of money. Ask them to get a better explanation on the situation and report back to their states & districts. Those who created the mess will just have to suffer. Middle class America is tired of carrying the load! What is the transition team for President-Elect Barack Obama doing about this? Marilyn from Welaka, Florida
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Nov 14th 2008 at 11:12 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:12 pm EST)
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Continue to move all things seen and unseen in Barack and Joe's favor. All things. Continue to let no effort formed against them prosper. Send your army of angels to defeat any effort formed against them. Continue to soften the hearts of those who are hardened. Given Barack and his team the wisdom to bring the country out of the economic peril. Help them to find the way to bring peace around the world working with other world partners. We pray that Barack will be viewed as a great president for 8 years of his presidency and beyond.
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Nov 14th 2008 at 11:27 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:27 pm EST)
Amen!
If you don't mind I will add on to your intial prayer:
Dear Lord,
So many of us have hoped and prayed for Sen. Obama to become President Elect Obama and then President Obama. Now Lord help us to remember it is YOUR will that be done. As much as we pray for President Obama and his administration, as much as we pray for President Obama's wisdom, it is through YOU that he gets his wisdom. So Lord, if and when de does or says something that we may not agree with let us remember it is about YOU Father and Your will.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:01 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:01 am EST)
Cassandra - Thank you for writing "soften the hearts of those who are hardened."
I was very turned off by Hillary during the primary (and even during the early part of the general) and McCain and Palin during the general, but since election night, I am experiencing an overwhelming calm and forgiveness - a softening of the heart, as you said.
I don't think Barack is being weak or making bad choices in whomever he meets with or whomever he selects. I think he is doing what he promised - looking out for the country and all of us, in the best way he knows how, and ... let's not forget the biggie ... turning the other cheek, as he did during the aforementioned trying times.
He is such a mature leader, I think we don't recognize it sometimes - we haven't seen that in so long.
Maybe he'll pick wrong people here and there (they're all just people, after all), but he can also let them go when he realizes there are problems.
Let's all give him a chance and continue our prayers for or just think good thoughts about Barack and Joe - and each other.
This is not a sermon on my part - EVERYBODY is entitled to their own opinions and I totally respect that - just a nudge from my own softened soul. I, for one, am still celebrating.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:13 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:13 am EST)
I just logged on so excuse me if I may repeat sentiments stated earlier or on other threads..also, since it is late, I don't have a lot of time to read the boards because I have to finilize my reservations to fly to DC for the swearing in ceremony !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! yeah!!!!!!!!!!
No tickets, no hotel, no car rental...no problem!!
1. HRC as SOS is not good. Madelyn Albright and Condi Rice were both SOS and they were not successful. You really need a man in that position at a time of war when we are dealing with countries who have no respect for women. Sad but true. John Kerry or Chuck Hagel. Barack has to take care of Kerry and as much as I prefer Hagel in the position I would be ok with Kerry.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 9:13 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 9:13 am EST)
Thank you for saying that. As a women I was afraid to. I agree with you 100%
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Nov 14th 2008 at 11:17 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:17 pm EST)
Secretary of State
*Kerry was elected to the US Senate in 1984 and was re-elected to three successive terms. He won his fifth term Tuesday. He has served on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee for 20 years.
Susan Rice
Gov.Richardson
Sen. Lugar
Sen. Nunn
Treasury
Jamie Dimon
Timothy Geithner
Summers
Paul Volcker
Defense
Hagel
Reed
Natl. Security
Zinni
Susan Rice
Engery
Sen.Bingman
Gov. Scheitzer
Homeland
Tom Romer
Rep .Harman
Sen. Collins
UN
Susan Rice
Caroline Kennedy
Lee Hamiliton
Attorney General
Rep. Davis
Tim Kaine
Gov. Deval
Gov. Napolitano
Smile Jesus Loves You and so do I :-)
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Andréa- (You've called him everything else- now call him Mr. President!)
Nov 14th 2008 at 11:22 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:22 pm EST)
Why are these people good picks Debbie? What beside the fact you like them makes them qualified to hold a cabinet or advisory position? Just curious.
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Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus!
Nov 14th 2008 at 11:35 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:35 pm EST)
Andrea I think they are good picks just like you may choose someone you think are good picks!
Geez!!!!
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Patrice from Gardena, CA
Nov 14th 2008 at 11:43 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:43 pm EST)
Andrea, are you a former Hillary supporter? Just a question. I think many of us are saying that Hillary wasn't very loyal as a fellow democrat when she ran against Barack. As a matter of fact she gave the republicans information to use against Barack.
Many of us believe in loyalty, that's all. It's personal for many of us.
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Andréa- (You've called him everything else- now call him Mr. President!)
Nov 14th 2008 at 11:50 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:50 pm EST)
Nope never was an HRC supporter.
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Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus!
Nov 14th 2008 at 11:51 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:51 pm EST)
Thanks Patrice!
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V-Day
Nov 15th 2008 at 12:04 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:04 am EST)
now now. I will say her supporters were, I know 1st hand. Regardless, let us demonstrate some diplomacy during the transition.
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Viva Obama so proud to have voted for HOPE and to have rejected the hype
Nov 15th 2008 at 2:31 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 2:31 am EST)
ok. let's not forget that hillary came around and fought her hardest for barack in the general election. besides loyalty should not be the #1 condition for hiring someone. as i said before kerry is more than qualified and it has nothing to do with his loyalty compared to hrc. kerry is smart and has a good personality to deal with people who may not immediately see things his way. hrc on the other hand personally will not serve us well as sos because of her gongho shoot from the hip attitude. no offense hrc but it's true. we want someone that will serve this country well in that position not just someone that thinks we owe him/her something or whatever other petty reasons out there. this is a major role as this person represents us all to the world.
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Nov 14th 2008 at 11:19 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:19 pm EST)
I want real change not more of the same!I want real change not more of the same!I want real change not more of the same!I want real change not more of the same!I want real change not more of the same!
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Patrice from Gardena, CA
Nov 14th 2008 at 11:36 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:36 pm EST)
Amen Debbie and many many hughs to you!
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Nov 14th 2008 at 11:42 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:42 pm EST)
Hugs to you Patrice!
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Nov 14th 2008 at 11:23 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:23 pm EST)
After our Blog site got hijacked last night, I was concerned about returning. I still followed my personal way of dealing with them, but even my usual post to them caused them to attack and be very hateful. I posted once more to our ObamaCAN family about meeting in our secret place and leaving.
It appeared that everyone left but one person and all the trolls were raking havoc.
The reason I am talking about this is because, tonight I feel like I have returned home from the war.
I am comforted by my ObamaCAN family and wanted to do a positive twist on my usual post to the trolls, which really isn’t twisting because it was positive to begin with. So this is for all my ObamaCAN family.
Bless the enlightened; that they see and treat others as they see themselves; a another human sharing this planet, which supports all of our lives the same, through the air we breathe, the food we eat, and the ground we walk on.
Bless the ObamaCANS the enlightened ones.
Peace
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Nov 14th 2008 at 11:36 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:36 pm EST)
lol... you're about to hear a choir of "I trust Obama's judgment." That, along with comments about "Team of Rivals" (with no mention of the fact that that plan didn't work out so well for Lincoln), and the "keep your enemies closer."
But not from me. I happen to think Kerry or Richardson (especially Kerry -- for many reason, including that he's multi-lingual) would be a FAR BETTER choice.
Not that we, the people, have ANY say so in the matter. It's not as if we get to vote on this, and certainly our opinions do not matter one bit to those who are making the selections.
BUT if I COULD vote -- Kerry!!!
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Nov 14th 2008 at 11:36 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:36 pm EST)
I agree Caitlin!!
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Nov 14th 2008 at 11:41 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:41 pm EST)
Here, Here!
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Nov 14th 2008 at 11:49 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:49 pm EST)
Again,
I hear "I don't like HRC". I have yet to hear anyone say why she is not qualified to be Sec. of State. Furthermore why is Gov. Richardson or Sen. Kerry qualified?
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:15 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:15 am EST)
It's not that she's incompetent, but there are many other people out there who are more qualified than her.
Plus, she's been wrong on what many of us feel to be critical issues:
1. The war in Iraq
2. America engaging in direct diplomacy with our enemies (she mocked Obama and called him naive for saying he would).
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Sans Doute
Nov 15th 2008 at 12:17 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:17 am EST)
The very person who called senator Obama naïve for suggesting we seek diplomatic solutions to our international problems, even if that means talking to our enemies?
The very person who voted for the Iraq war?
The very person who said that only her and McCain have cross that Commander in Chief threshold?
Hillary's foreign policy is closer to McCain's than to Obama's.
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Sans Doute
Nov 15th 2008 at 12:26 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:26 am EST)
Oops.... PRESIDENT-ELECT Obama. (Old habits die hard; I'm still referring to him as Senator Obama.)
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:18 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:18 am EST)
Andrea, see my post above re: Richardson.
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Beth from Albany Oregon
Nov 14th 2008 at 11:30 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:30 pm EST)
I guess I fogot to send Christopher the memo about the disclaimer for us who belong to the sobbers club. . . good thing I still have that box of kleenex on my side table :)
I have even watched that video b/f but it is one that still gets and gives me those darn goosebumps
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Nov 14th 2008 at 11:31 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:31 pm EST)
If they continue to claim that the only reason they got their booty kicked is due to the "conditions" at this time and that McCain did a good job despite that - they will never recover.
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Czarina Jacqueline O'Boomer - "O' beautiful, for spacious skies"
Nov 14th 2008 at 11:47 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:47 pm EST)
Agree.
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Sans Doute
Nov 14th 2008 at 11:47 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:47 pm EST)
I agree! That, and if they keep insisting that the entire country is center/right. Obviously it isn't. I think we're going to end up with two Republican parties: The center/right and the far, FAR right. Palin will be the leader of the far, FAR right. She truly is a whack job.
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Nov 14th 2008 at 11:52 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:52 pm EST)
is it concievable barack would offer mccain secretary of defense? what other high level pentagon assignment is there?
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Czarina Vero - who loves her new President - OBAMA!!!!!
Nov 15th 2008 at 12:05 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:05 am EST)
No. This is Obama wrapping things up. He needs to finalize things with McCain so he can put the election away, fully and finally. I bet this is similar to his secret meeting with Clinton. He will decide the best way to use McCain, if McCain is open. But McCain will not be a part of Obama's administration.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 2:35 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 2:35 am EST)
If McCain is trying to reclaim his honor I wish he would denounce Palin's "...palling around with terrorists" remarks and ask her to be in on it too. I read about the hate groups that increased during that stretch of hateful attacks on Obama and cringe at the error they made of inciting hate to the masses. Then suddenly the race is over and they act like no big deal when those that had the hateful comments fed to them feel cheated by the "terrorist Obama". I think McCain/Palin need to make a public apology to Obama and tell those supporters they got carried away during the campaign. It could start with McCain not having any part of the hateful rhetoric coming out of the GA Senator race. Being there without saying anything when he hears negative hateful things said is not honorable.
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Patrice from Gardena, CA
Nov 15th 2008 at 12:07 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:07 am EST)
The republicans don't know how to reach out to the masses. The problem is they have also believed they are the "superior party" at least until now. There just so far behind the times.
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Czarina Jacqueline O'Boomer - "O' beautiful, for spacious skies"
Nov 15th 2008 at 12:11 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:11 am EST)
I'm pretty sure Barack knows that McCain doesn't understand what "Defense" means. He and Bush and Cheney think it means "Offense."
McCain would be worse than Rumsfeld, from my point of view.
McCain has lost a lot of respect among the military - both because he would think nothing of "another 50 years of preemptive war" and because he didn't vote for veterans issues the way he claimed he did.
Warfighting tactics have also changed tremendously since McCain was in the military, and he'd be lost.
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yesterdaygone : they said this day would never come
Nov 15th 2008 at 12:28 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:28 am EST)
i thought the same thing. why allow people to suffer under mccain's temper after they endured rumsfield? it would be tantamount to abuse. but this hillary thing has me bracing myself to expect the unexpected.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:04 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:04 am EST)
they will never recover.
isn't that what we want? i, for one, welcome their delusions.
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Czarina Vero - who loves her new President - OBAMA!!!!!
Nov 15th 2008 at 12:08 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:08 am EST)
I think a healthy opposition is good for a democracy. We don't want the Democrats getting too happy and going too far. Just like there's a too far right - there's a too far left.
Plus, opposition will keep Democrats united. Without at least one viable opposition party, the Democrats will begin fighting amongst themselves. Not anytime soon, but that would happen eventually.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:30 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:30 am EST)
something tells me barack will get plenty of opposition from his own party.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:36 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:36 am EST)
I agree. And without a real opposition from Republicans, this is the splinter within the Dems that I was talking about.
Dems will stay together as long as we have a Republican party to stand together against.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:32 pm EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:32 pm EST)
and they will lose there seats. This happened once before.....after President Clinton's first term.
The Democrats had better work together to accomplish CHANGE in this country else they will lose their seats again.
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Nov 14th 2008 at 11:34 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:34 pm EST)
GET BACK ON THE COMMUNITY BLOGSITE..
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yesterdaygone : they said this day would never come
Nov 15th 2008 at 12:01 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:01 am EST)
huh?
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:11 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:11 am EST)
Feeling better JFK-FAN? See you are up and adam!
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Nov 14th 2008 at 11:45 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:45 pm EST)
Secretary of State
*Kerry was elected to the US Senate in 1984 and was re-elected to three successive terms. He won his fifth term Tuesday. He has served on the "Senate Foreign Relations Committee for 20 years".
He also have talk to many Foreign Leaders!
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Sans Doute
Nov 15th 2008 at 12:00 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:00 am EST)
He's also fluent in French, while his wife is fluent in Spanish, French, Italian and Portuguese. In fact, she worked as a translator and as a consultant to the United Nations Trusteeship in New York City.
She became the chair of the Heinz family's $1.2 billion philanthropic foundations, which are known for their involvement in education, environmental issues, the arts, women's health care and prescription drug sale reform. In 1996 she established the Women's Institute for a Secure Retirement in order to educate women about savings, pensions, and retirement security.
Now wouldn't THAT be such an added bonus if Obama selects Kerry ???
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yesterdaygone : they said this day would never come
Nov 15th 2008 at 12:01 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:01 am EST)
another helpful qualification, doesn't kerry speak several languages?
another thing, if kerry were awarded sos, it would be poetic justice, considering he really won the presidency in 2004 but had ohio stolen from him.
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Patrice from Gardena, CA
Nov 15th 2008 at 12:08 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:08 am EST)
I'm with you Debbie, my vote is for Kerry.
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Czarina Vero - who loves her new President - OBAMA!!!!!
Nov 15th 2008 at 12:06 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:06 am EST)
Kerry is my top choice. But this Hillary thing has the ring of truth to it. So, I'm just waiting to see what becomes of all this.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:07 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:07 am EST)
Personally I think Gov.Richardson is the best choice for Sec of State- but if it is HRC, I can see some of the positives there too- the Clintons, both, all said and done, are beloved around the world- I have family in Asia and can attest to that from a limited personal standpoint. Also, they have true star power internationally- and with Bill Clinton involved as a shadow SoS, it certainly HELPS, NOT HURTS AMERICAN'S IMAGE AROUND THE WORLD AND WILL DEFINITELY HELP OUR DIPLOMATI EFFORTS OVERSEAS. Kerry and Richardson are way way more qualified than HRC in my opinion, but with the Bill Clinton factor- which no news outlet can openly write about- HRC is a great idea. Seriously, if Barack offered it to her and she took it, HE WONT HAVE TO FACE DISSENT FROM HER ON ANY DOMESTIC POLICY with her in the Senate- remember, all eyes are watching her role very carefully now after the presidential run...... so Barack can enact his healthcare reform agenda without being pushed far left- he wont be pushed even if she tries, but it will make for negative publicity and a bad image and give the right wing nuts something to try to tear him down on- unnecessary drama. I am convinced of this. From a political chess standpoint I think its best if she becomes SoS. I am sure Barack will find something very useful for Kerry and Richardson who in my opinion actually have SOLID foreign policy credentials, way way better than HRC, but can also fit in other roles easily and be very productive...... just my two cents.....
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:16 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:16 am EST)
I have to be honest, I do not like the "Bill Clinton factor." He hasn't been the same in a while. I do not see him as this charismatic, diplomat at all. He's a loose cannon. And I truly do not think he likes Obama. I genuinely believe he is bothered by Obama's success on many levels. Obama is smarter than him, more charismatic than him, he's really the first black Prez, and he stopped his wife's presidential aspirations. With Bill in the background, not under Obama's control in a way that Hillary would be, it is bad news in my opinion. Obama has a different vision of foreign policy than Hillary. It's going to take a lot of effort by him to make sure she's carrying out HIS vision. It's near impossible to make sure Bill isn't undermining his vision.
That is my concern today. You really do get 2 for the price of 1 with them, and I don't think Obama needs that. He's got Biden, he'll have Gates, he'll have a National Security Advisor, he'll have SOS (maybe Hillary). He doesn't need some ex-President with an ego complex lurking around.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 2:40 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 2:40 am EST)
I agree with Vero. I think there's a lot of jealousy coming from Bill Clinton against Barack. He is a loose cannon as well. And with HRC's "obliterate" comment during the primary, that shows me the amount of diplomacy she has.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 8:45 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 8:45 am EST)
I really think Barack is trying to position her to be the next president. In 2016 she would knock the ball out of the park. I also think Barack is going to solve a multitude of problems (probably not all of them).This administration is going to end on such a good note, we are all going to hate to see it end! Sort of like the way we feel about the campaign.
The next best thing is going to be Clinton. She will obliterate the Sarah Palin's of the world. Dems could be in power for 32 years straight!. Clinton is not going to do anything Barack doesn't like. He will fire her... SOS only lasts for 2 years, so to keep that job it can only be done through the grace of the Prez. As you see, he already has Richards in the wings waiting to take her place.
Clinton has been a huge support for Barack in the campaign. I believe she will lift him up in this administration.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:20 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:20 am EST)
Ok....just 4 yuks, how about picking someone who will serve this country best? Regardless of party affiliation, just someone who will get it done.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:31 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:31 am EST)
do you have a suggestion?
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:43 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:43 am EST)
scratching the surface. ummmmm. Lot of folks to choose from.....all I am saying.
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Nov 14th 2008 at 11:55 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:55 pm EST)
On November 6th or so, we learned that Axelrod is going to be White House senior advisor. Now Valerie Jarrett had been appointed to White House senior advisor. Two great choices. My question: how many White House senior advisors are there, or can there be? Does anyone know?
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:05 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:05 am EST)
and i thought daschle was going to be chief of staff. what is he going to be now?
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Nov 14th 2008 at 11:56 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:56 pm EST)
Ok, it seems the subject of Hillary Clinton becoming Secretary of State stirs a firestorm on our blog.
I respect everyone's opinion on this. I also know we have former Hillary supporters on board and we are happy you came to support Barack.
The simpliest way of expressing this is most of us hear are "diehard" Obama fans. While we know he doesn't walk on water and will make misakes, we also know how much personal time, sweat, phone calls and money we all contributed. This was a personal mission for months for many of us.
We want people to surround him that are bright, intelligent and capable but most importantly LOYAL.
Some of us don't see that in HRC although she is qualified to be Sec. of State.
Maybe many of us are overly protective because we want him to succeed and be the best.
It is personal for many of us.
Moving forward, we are all adults and ready to be supportive. We are all in this together.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:07 pm EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:07 pm EST)
I am impressed with P-E Obama's weekly address on change.gov. I would rather discuss what he is telling us about, and think of ways we can help him,.....NOT TEAR HIM DOWN. He is the best President most of us will ever see in our entire lives. Let's support him. We can even share our thoughts with him. I do think, however, if we were to put comments like those that are being posted on his Transition site...he would cease to make it available to us. Too,much whining. So, let's be supportive!
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Nov 14th 2008 at 11:57 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:57 pm EST)
i think its unfortunate how hannity's show is still rambling on about bill ayers and ayers' interview on good morning america today. they are just stirring up fear in the people who watch that show- do they want the american people to be fearful for the next few years? are they trying to bring about a security conflict for obama? its so disgraceful to incessantly talk about how bill ayers is a terrorist and then suggest that somehow OUR NEXT PRESIDENT sympathizes with it. It's so so wrong.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:10 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:10 am EST)
Guess who's bitter?
Hannity has tunnel vision........very narrow minded and small.
Don't watch that idiot
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Nov 15th 2008 at 1:12 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:12 am EST)
Guess who's bitter?
lol
neener neener, sore losers.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:10 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:10 am EST)
Is that what they're doing? I have a physical aversion to Fox. I haven't watched that show in years...well I did watch when O'Reilly interview PE Obama during the general.
I am very concerned with the pot stirring these Rush Hannity types are doing. It's dangerous and totally counterproductive. We are in a full blown economic crisis, and Bill Ayers gets deeper investigation than the crisis.
Very irresponsible.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:41 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:41 am EST)
I saw the Good Morning American interview with Ayers. He confirmed, in my opinion, that the relationship between him and Obama was just as Obama described it. He and Obama were not "pals"; they simply worked on the same board with many others. Ayers did not help "launch" Obama's politica career. He just hosted a coffee for Obama at his home just like about 20 other people. He didn't realy know much about Obama prior to the coffee. Don't listen to the right wing idiots on Fax and talk radio. They will take every action Obama takes during his presidency and turn it into a negative.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:07 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:07 am EST)
We voted for change, not more of the same. I have faith Barack that you will see this is what resonated with Americans.
Good on you for the Valerie Jarrett pick. The selection of someone loyal to you is the change we need.
There are the same bad DEM actors and non-change agents surfacing in these early days. Many have great concerns about a rehash of the 1990s.
After fighting HRC in Texas...I think she would be a great US Senator, and to my mind...she can get started right now.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:13 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:13 am EST)
remind me what was wrong with the 1990's, I wasn't paying attention much then...but I have heard he went in facing a big deficit, and left with a surplus, so economically it seems like they did good things...
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Sans Doute
Nov 15th 2008 at 12:19 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:19 am EST)
Except for that whole deregulation thing that has obviously spiraled out of control, Clinton did okay.
The 90s was the time of the dot com bubble. Everyone was making mega bucks in the stock market.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 1:00 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:00 am EST)
when california was being gouged by deregulated electricity (see enron,) clinton refused to intervene!
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Sans Doute
Nov 15th 2008 at 1:06 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:06 am EST)
Are you still in San Diego??
Remember those annoying rolling blackouts?
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Nov 15th 2008 at 1:14 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:14 am EST)
sure do.
i remember driving around and seeing people watching tv in the dark by candlelight.
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Sans Doute
Nov 15th 2008 at 1:47 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:47 am EST)
LOL!!!!
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:22 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:22 am EST)
We're not living in the 1800s with Lincoln's team of rivals and we're not living in the 1990s with the Clinton drama.
The 1990s would have been fantastic had it not been for all the Clinton drama. Do you actually believe the Clintons have changed? Do you actually believe we won't face some kind of scandal at the hands of the Clintons.
What's wrong with the 1990s is IT'S TIME TO TURN THE PAGE!
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yesterdaygone : they said this day would never come
Nov 15th 2008 at 12:26 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:26 am EST)
for starters, bill clinton
-enabled the deregulatory spree that we're now paying the price for (hillary defended the repeal of glass-steagall during the primary)
-opened wider the door to china, leaving us with record trade deficit, which allowed our jobs to be shipped overseas.
-passed nafta, see above
-did nothing to improve k-12
-did nothing to wean us off foreign oil. bill didn't couldn't even be bothered to push to improve cafe standards.
-did nothing to provide healthcare for the uninsured. though they take credit for it, schip wasn't really their idea.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:36 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:36 am EST)
oh, and bill's lack of discipline is the reason why we ended up with bush.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:26 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:26 am EST)
We need new faces, fresh ideas. In the 1990s Healthcare didn't get passed because of egos and special interests. The divided politics of the past.
In D.C. today - you will see the same bad actors jockeying for position. If we are just going to trade out republican special interests groups and lobbyists for those of the 1990s democratic special interest groups and lobbyists...change will not come.
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Patrice from Gardena, CA
Nov 15th 2008 at 12:21 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:21 am EST)
I like your spirit Lisa.
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Czarina Vero - who loves her new President - OBAMA!!!!!
Nov 15th 2008 at 12:26 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:26 am EST)
You voted for change, not a revolution. Change has already happened. Look at who we have as President. A 47 year old black man, junior US Senator, and state Senator from Chicago previously. He's a brilliant man, but he cannot do it all alone. He needs to appoint people that he doesn't need to micromanage. He needs some seasoned folks in there and since Dems are known to be losers, there aren't many seasoned non-Clintonian Dems out there. And who says working for the Clintons in the 90s means they are tainted with the Clinton drama? When he appoints Carville or George Snuffalofagous, then I'll get upset.
Look at the world leaders ready to engage with our new President. Look at the fact that he has the highest approval ratings than any incoming President in many years. Look at the fact that he's setting up transparency rules and technology offices, and bringing us along with this blog.
I'm sorry, but he's brought a lot of change. Did you complain about Axelrod being a former worker on Clinton's campaign for Senate? Did you complain when Patti Solis Doyle joined? Did you complain when Obama adopted parts of Hillary's health care plan? Did you complain when Terry McAullife spent much of the end of the general campaigning for Obama in VA? Did you complain when Hillary and Bill campaigned in PA and FL - extensively - and had many fundraisers for him?
Obama is still a Democrat and he is still working within the party that he was nominated to represent. Implicit in these complaints about not enough new faces is this idea that Obama is not a strong leader and cannot dictate to his administration what the goals are. They serve him, and if they forget that - they're outtie.
There will be new faces, but in these tough times he would be a fool to get a bunch of outsiders with little understanding of how Congress works, and how foreign leaders move and shake.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:31 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:31 am EST)
To answer your questions: YES I DID
Did you complain when Patti Solis Doyle joined? Did you complain when Obama adopted parts of Hillary's health care plan? Did you complain when Terry McAullife spent much of the end of the general campaigning for Obama in VA? Did you complain when Hillary and Bill campaigned in PA and FL - extensively - and had many fundraisers for him?
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Czarina Vero - who loves her new President - OBAMA!!!!!
Nov 15th 2008 at 12:46 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:46 am EST)
Well, it appears anything touching the Clintons is kryptonite for you, so good luck with that.
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Lisa Holmes - Obama Precinct Captain #3361
Nov 15th 2008 at 12:50 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:50 am EST)
naw, no problems with them personally ...just taking issue with the sleezy entourage that follows in their wake
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Czarina Vero - who loves her new President - OBAMA!!!!!
Nov 15th 2008 at 1:04 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:04 am EST)
Well, there is baggage. Everyone has baggage. Maybe times are tough enough and Obama is a strong enough leader to cut out the sleaze.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:33 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:33 am EST)
I agree Lisa!!
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:39 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:39 am EST)
February 21, 2008 |Austin, TX |Barack said:
"The problem we have is that Washington has become a place where good ideas go to die. They go to die because the lobbyists...
They go to die because lobbyists and special interests have a strangle-hold on the agenda in Washington. They go to die in Washington because too many politicians are interested in scoring political points rather than bridging differences in order to get things done.
And so the central premise of this campaign is that we can bring this country together, that we can push against the special interests that have come to dominate the agenda in Washington, that we can be straight with the American people about how we're going to solve these problems and enlist them in taking back their government."
That simple idea of changing the way things are done in Washington...is a "revolution".
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Czarina Vero - who loves her new President - OBAMA!!!!!
Nov 15th 2008 at 12:48 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:48 am EST)
Is that last line your own, or Obama's?
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:51 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:51 am EST)
the last line is not in parenthesis..I take credit.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 1:01 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:01 am EST)
Thanks for clarifying.
Based on the quote you provided, I'm having a hard time seeing how Obama's appointments, and those that are being speculated about, have prevented (or will prevent) him from carrying out that change. Last I checked Obama single-handedly got Clinton and McCain to abandon their "Washington experience" stance and embrace his change mantra.
Give the guy some credit for being able to get his vision across and convince others to join him.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 1:08 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:08 am EST)
...just taking issue with the sleezy entourage that follows in their wake .........They Never Change!
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Nov 15th 2008 at 1:14 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:14 am EST)
I hear you. But sleaze is everywhere and Obama will just have to keep his wits about him. The Clintons aren't the only folks with questionable ties.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 3:51 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 3:51 am EST)
At least Obama is taking with him loyalists to the white house. Axelrode and Jarrett. Emannual actually is quite loyal to BO. He is from chicago and the chicago boys always stick togather. If Emanual tries to screw BO the Chicago godfathers will never forgive him and he will be dead fish.
Infact RE did not endorse Hillary he just stayed on the side even after working for the Clinton Adminstration. So i feel safe with BO having chicago boys and gals in the white house with him. They got his back.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:13 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:13 am EST)
Barack Obama is facing enormous challenges as the next POTUS. How about being supportive of him and trusting his judgment?
Barack has faced enough grief from his opponents, he doesn't need more from his supporters.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:19 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:19 am EST)
I was off the blog for a while because of visiting grandchildren (who were hogging my computer) and I can't believe folks here - longtime supporters - have gone so negative so fast on what Barack has been doing this week.
In fact, I'm a little shocked to see where the talk has gone since election night, a little more than a week ago. I'm trying not to add to it or lecture anybody, but ...
Me? I'm still celebrating!
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Nov 15th 2008 at 2:46 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 2:46 am EST)
I agree with you Jacqueline. We need to not sweat the choices. Barack is PE not us. We gave him our trust in electing him. Let him be!
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:19 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:19 am EST)
It's getting a little hard to trust his judgment when it looks like he stabbed Kerry in the back.
Do you think for one minute that Hillary isn't going to fill the state department with all the people who have been loyal to her? Do you think Hillary isn't going to give all those who supported her jobs as ambassador of this, that, and the other country?
Hillary tries to tear Obama's head off and he rewards her with a highly desirable job. Kerry is loyal from day one and he gets kicked in the butt.
It seems our new president believes loyalty is a one way street.
I used to be a very happy camper. These days I'm wondering what happened to the people that ran that great campaign - the people we fought for - gave our last dime for - stayed up all night addressing postcards for. What happened to them? Those people would not have stabbed Kerry in the back.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:29 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:29 am EST)
Tammy,
I understand where you are coming and I strongly agree with your sentiment but I will wait until he has made his decision before I feel really frustrated.
I am personally against a women having this post because they will not be as effective. Albright and Rice are a perfect example. I like either Kerry or Hage.
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Suzanne from CT
Nov 15th 2008 at 12:37 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:37 am EST)
Hmmm. It's apriori true that women are not effective Secretaries of State? Inferred from two examples?
About half of all Democratic countries have had Female leaders, and quite a few had a woman in the position equivalent to SOS, and I see no evidence that woman cannot do the job well. It depends of course on which woman has the job.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:49 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:49 am EST)
Suzanne or Anyone,
Please tell me what Condi and Madelyn Albright accomplished as SOS?
I don't recall any other female SOS in this countries history. Am I missing something?
As a women myself, I do not take my statement lightly. We have serious challenges that needs to be resolved because I am sick of hearing about them dominating our lives. I do not believe a women can address those challenges for the simple reason that the people we have problems with do not have a lot of respect for women. Those people are in the Middle East. Not Europe. Therefore, It is best to place a more effective leader in that post and a women is not that person.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 1:36 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:36 am EST)
We could show them by example.
Listen, I wasn't a Hillary fan either, but I remember Obama saying in the Iowa debate just before the caucus there... when he was questioned why, if his campaign was all about change, were many of his advisors former Clinton people. His answer (after Hillary said that, yes, she'd like to hear that answer, too) shut everyone up, including Hillary. He said he was willing to take good talent from everywhere and then offered Hillary to be one of his advisors, too. She had nothing to say.
The fact is, lots of Clinton insiders and advisors defected to Obama early on. I think that is a good thing. Maybe they realized the potential of the Clintons but that Obama could more fulfill that at this time in our history. And just maybe Hillary has realized that, too. If she's picked for Secretary of State, I will support that decision, because I trust Obama. I think he has a little more inside information than we do.
Now, regarding his meeting with McCain on Monday. My hope is that he can convince McCain to attempt to call off the right wing hate media that still wants to stir up the anti-American (among other things) sentiment that is still blatantly being allowed. This, to me, is more disturbing because it's not only the Hannity's and the Limbaugh's of the that world that are filling their followers with hate, but it's also local right wing nutjob radio hosts that are relentless. It's got to stop.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:31 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:31 am EST)
What specifically has he done? The only announcements I have heard are Rahm Emmanuel, Robert Gibbs, David Axelrod and Valerie Jarrett. He has not announced Clinton as Sec. of State. I actually think, in spite of the fact that I am not a huge Clinton fan, that she would do a great job in that position (as would either Kerry or Richardson). She would have to be vetted for that job so any foreign contributions to Bill would be known in advance of confirmation hearings. How do you know that people who were loyal to Obama will not be given positions of prominence in his administration? I really think we should wait and see what happens instead of getting upset over what could turn out to be just rumor.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:31 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:31 am EST)
"It looks like he (Obama) stabbed Kerry in the back"
Obama stabbed Kerry in the back?
Obama stabbed Kerry in the back?
What did he do? I'm not aware that Obama has DONE anything that amounts to stabbing Kerry in the back. He met with Clinton. He met with Richardson. That's ALL we know at this point. How is this stabbing Kerry in the back?
What is it with you people?
Where is your hope and trust, not to mention common sense?
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:40 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:40 am EST)
Yeah,
Not totally getting that Obama stabbed Kerry in the back thing.
Oh well...
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:33 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:33 am EST)
"...trust his judgment?" Jeez, he's not sending us to a war with Iraq. Or illegally spying on us. Calm down a bit.
First, when did he promise Kerry the position? Second, is he finished with his appointments? Isn't there room for Kerry somewhere else?
I'm not thrilled with this Hillary idea either, but you are really being dramatic. Kerry was helpful in giving Obama a chance, but Hillary really did bring her folks over to us when things weren't looking that good. She didn't have to do it. So he "owes" Hillary and Kerry too.
Don't like the decision - fine - but I think it's uncool to question his judgment after ONE appointment that you find objectionable. Especially after all of the good decisions he's made. That is really unfair and putting him on a pedestal that he'd never be able to stay on.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:37 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:37 am EST)
Wow. I don't get it. I think the loyalty should remain with the folks that voted for Obama and Biden 08. Just saying.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:42 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:42 am EST)
So PE Obama should only look out for those who voted for him??
Nah- that's silly season talk.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 2:56 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 2:56 am EST)
Barack did not promise to reward his supporters with cabinet positions like most before him. No, he promised to staff his cabinet with the most qualified experts he could find measured by his own judgment, not ours.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 3:29 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 3:29 am EST)
Exactly.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:54 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:54 am EST)
I hear you loud and clear Tammy!
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:23 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:23 am EST)
NAFTA and De-regulation to name two things that we are paying for now.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:25 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:25 am EST)
Stan,
It is true that President Obama is facing enermous challenges but he will face even bigger if he does not get his cabinet selection right.
I strongly oppose to a women as SOS. I am not against HRC but all women.
Albright and Rice were not successful and I believe it is because they were women. Since when did this job because a "womens job?"
What did either accomplish?
Foreign countries, especially in the Middle East do not have respect for women so why send a women all over the globe on behalf of the US?
Kerry or Hagel should have this post.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:38 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:38 am EST)
My mother said the same thing today. If we want to really make inroads with some of these paternal countries - Russia included - we may need a man to go there and speak to them "man to man."
As a woman, I think this is a sad situation, but its reality. Other countries just aren't as progressive as we are.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 1:00 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:00 am EST)
Vero,
Thank you so much for understanding my point of view.
My statement was not to marginalize women but to magnify the fact that world leaders in the Middle East (where we have the most conflict with) do not respect women.
HRC was fooled by the idiot Bush...imagine what Iran or Iraq leaders would do to her.
This is not good if she is picked...
Please Mr President, this position is for a Man.
I am simply trying to ensure your success and if someone can tell me what Condi or Madelyn accomplished I would shut up about this.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 4:27 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 4:27 am EST)
This thread is horrifically sexist.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 10:46 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 10:46 am EST)
I'm astonished. After all the work we've done and I thought we had come so far...
We won't truly understand what Barack has given us the opportunity to become until we allow ALL Americans the chance to pursue it.
Put your bias aside. There is no reason a woman cannot serve and serve well in this post.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 1:04 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:04 am EST)
"Dissent is the highest form of patriotism" -- Thomas Jefferson
"We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty. When the loyal opposition dies, I think the soul of America dies with it." - Edward R. Murrow
"The beginning of thought is in disagreement not only with others but also with ourselves." --Eric Hoffer
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:15 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:15 am EST)
My prayer for President Elect Obama is that God will give him the wisdom to choose the cabinet members (whoever they maybe) who will work and support him to bring the change he desires for America.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:20 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:20 am EST)
I get the feeling some of the cabinet posts should be announced soon, or members of this blog and the MSM are going to go crazy. I think eveyone in the MSM is running out of doggie stories to run each night.lol
Of course, everyone has favorites for key positions such as State, Defense, Treasury and others. That's normal and healthy, but there's no need to diss any of the candidates because they're all exceptional.
There are a few things to remember, though, in this process. The first and most important point is Barack Obama will select whom, he and his advisers believe is the very best candidate for each position. You will find his choices will be capability driven not neccessarily political.
Just remember who he's getting advice from, also remember the depth of knowledge available to the group is far beyond ours. Some time ago, a lot of folks here thought John Edwards would make a great secretary of labor or attorney general. I expect no one thinks that any more.
Barack Obama is an extremely talented, capable and intelligent manager, you know, like the ones who run companies that are always successful-Jack Welch comes to mind. These types of managers always pick the best talent available because they have full confidence in their ability of management and they know, the better the talent chosen, the better the governance and the better the company or in this case, government performs.
Also remember Obama is now privy to all security reports with access to information that cannot be shared. I wouldn't be surprised if he knows things about each candidate that the candidate doesn't know or remember. So whether he picks Hillary, Bill Richardson or John Kerry for Secretary of State, what you can bet on is that person is the best pick for the position.
So let's keep up the healthy discussion, but let's refrain from dissing any of the candidates and also trust the president elect and his team. So far they have been outstanding-I expect that to continue.
Remember for Obama it's no drama; let's adopt that moto here as well and welcome republicans, independents and folks from other countries around the world to the blog of change.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:36 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:36 am EST)
Pretty interesting points! I think some folks are territorial with their personal faves for cabinet posts. That's not a big deal, but people are bond to be disappointed because in the end, their favorite may not get picked.
Kind of like the VP selection. Any of you folks remember the insanity on the board when that was going on??
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:55 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:55 am EST)
Such rational thoughts.
I'm just so frustrated that people are so fickle. I'm not thrilled with the idea of Hillary, but I could never question Obama's judgment or call him weak, or abandon this Presidency over such a thing. I guess after so many years of Bush, I am giving Obama the benefit of the doubt regarding matters such as picking his advisers - people HE has to deal with on a constant basis.
Man, this is going to be a long 4 years on the blog. I'm not going to make it. Folks want exactly what they want and if they don't get it...it's not a pretty sight.
I now see that expectations are just impossible for Obama. He'll never make everyone happy. We are going to ruin our chance at having a great President by undermining him and bitching every step of the way.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 11:13 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:13 am EST)
I agree Vero. People forget Barack is
"THE CHANGE".
His judgment has been right on so far and we have to support him instead of wanting it to be our way. That is the Bush philosophy "My way or the Highway".
Let's wait and see who Barack actually chooses before we go berserk. Is that too much to ask?
Hugs, Vicki
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:34 pm EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:34 pm EST)
my take is this. obama will have a good presidency if not a great one and one of my measuring sticks is if he is not satisfying any particular group or groups of people then he is doing a mighty fine job in fairness to all to move the country forward.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:21 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:21 am EST)
regarding Sen. Clinton as Sec. of State- will folks stop carrying on as if all hell has broken loose? I'm still waiting for the 4 horsemen. It will be alright folks... honest!!
So far, the only thing I have heard are media reports. Andrea Mitchell, not the most reliable reporter on NBC's payroll talked a lot... about absolutely nothing.
My feeling is this: I think Gov. Richardson will be named Sec. of State. For whatever reason, I don't see Sen. Clinton doing something other than her own one- woman show. She's tied down to Bill Clinton (she should have divorced him looooong ago). According to a Yahoo (AP) article
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Sen. Clinton had asked Sen. Kennedy to create a sub committee so she could chair in order to bring health care to the forefront. Sen. Kennedy was not into that.
I know there was someone who mentioned in an earlier thread, that the foreign donations the Clinton's received for the library etc. would come to light in confirmation hearings. That would totally suck for the new administration.
Either way, I'm not worried. If PE Obama is a praying man (and he says he is) then he has already asked the Lord to give him guidance and wisdom, and whatever choice is made will be the Lord's will.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:25 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:25 am EST)
HuffPost reported she has been offered the job.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:30 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:30 am EST)
Again,
Just because the media says it happened doesn't make it so.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 1:06 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:06 am EST)
They quote some "Democratic officials."
Go take a look at the report regarding Jarratt and how it came from the transition team.
This is not an official offer.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:35 pm EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:35 pm EST)
and the transition is full of clinton folks. hmm!
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:33 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:33 am EST)
You are right. We all have to wait and see. I hope you read my last post.
Last, I was one of Barack's biggest supporters'/advocates here in So. Cal during the primaries. Daily I talked to Clintons supporters pleading with them to at least listen/educate themselves on his (Barack) policies. Do you have any ideal how hard that was?
Maybe this explains why I feel the way I do.
I wanted him to be independant of the Clintons especially in light of Bill Clintons behavior after Hillary lost.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:23 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:23 am EST)
Has anyone seen any mention of her in a cabinet position? I know she's on the advisory board of the Obama-Biden Transition Project, but I haven't heard/read anything more on her. (Things that make ya go Hhmmmm)
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:33 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:33 am EST)
Yes, she's going to be whatever Condi Rice was before she became SOS. I love Susan Rice. She's gonna go far.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:33 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:33 am EST)
If I had to guess, I'd say Dr. Rice would be National Security Advisor- which btw has a much closer relationship to the president than does Sec. of State.
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Suzanne from CT
Nov 15th 2008 at 12:40 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:40 am EST)
That's right. National Security Advisor.
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Sans Doute
Nov 15th 2008 at 12:45 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:45 am EST)
that's awesome!
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:42 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:42 am EST)
She should be...she is wonderful.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:26 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:26 am EST)
Hillary would be a sensational SOS. She and Bill are loved in Europe and overseas. For God's sake trust Barack. I know he owes Kerry and Richardson but ultimately Barack's administration will be judged by who can do the best job. His choices of Emmanuel and Hillary are brilliant. Both are extremely hard workers and talented. Kerry will probably end up as Senate foreign relations chairman. I hope Richardson gets what he wants, he was invaluable to Barack bringing home NM and the Latino vote and endorsing Barack at exactly the right time during the Rev Wright mess. All 3 of Kerry, Richardson, and Hillary played essential roles in getting Barack elected. Let's let Barack decide how they go from here, I trust his judgement and everyone on this post shoild too.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:27 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:27 am EST)
Hillary would be a sensational SOS. She and Bill are loved in Europe and overseas. For God's sake trust Barack. I know he owes Kerry and Richardson but ultimately Barack's administration will be judged by who can do the best job. His choices of Emmanuel and Hillary are brilliant. Both are extremely hard workers and talented. Kerry will probably end up as Senate foreign relations chairman. I hope Richardson gets what he wants, he was invaluable to Barack bringing home NM and the Latino vote and endorsing Barack at exactly the right time during the Rev Wright mess. All 3 of Kerry, Richardson, and Hillary played essential roles in getting Barack elected. Let's let Barack decide how they go from here, I trust his judgement and everyone on this post shoild too.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:39 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:39 am EST)
LET ME SAY THIS LOUD AND CLEAR...PRESIDENT OBAMA/SIR
A WOMEN AS SOS IS A DISASTER..CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHAT MADELYN ALBRIGHT AND CONDI RICE ACHIEVED?
NO WOMEN WOULD BE MY PICK BECAUSE MOST COUNTRIES DO NOT RESPECT A WOMEN IN THAT POSITION..ESPECIALLY IN THE MIDDLE EAST.
GO WITH KERRY OR HAGEL
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:49 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:49 am EST)
I hear you loud and clear Linda!!
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Linda...President Obama/A New Beginning!!
Nov 15th 2008 at 1:23 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:23 am EST)
Thanks Debbie...LOL
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Nov 16th 2008 at 10:28 am EST (Updated Nov 16th 2008 at 10:28 am EST)
The first female Secretary of State, Madeline Albright reports (in her autobiography and during many speaking engagements) that she never experienced any discrimination in Middle Eastern countries because of being a woman. The place she experienced discrimination: Washington, DC, especially in the State Department among career diplomats!
Albright says that when one arrives via Air Force 2 (or whatever the Secretary of State's plane is called), there is no problem with respect. Plus the US handed out a lot of money during the Clinton years (that will be less so in the future since we are borrowing money from the rest of the world).
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:53 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:53 am EST)
I do not agree. In fact, I find your comments offensive. The only way that women will eventually be respected by ALL countries is if they are given positions of authority. I am certain that Obama will choose the PERSON he feels is most qualified for each cabinet position, regardless of gender or ethnicity.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:55 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:55 am EST)
So, all of the women who are heads of state (running countries, higher than secretaries of state or others in the diplomatic community) around the world should ... er ... step down because you say people in the Middle East don't respect women?
Should I go buy a veil to cover my face?
Honey, this is 2008, the 21st century. Women fought hard in the last century - and are still fighting - to be in those high positions.
You can feel free to dislike certain women in certain positions, but it wouldn't be fair to say all of them shouldn't aspire to be there.
Please reconsider your comments.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 1:37 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:37 am EST)
T and Jacqueline,
All of the women in other countries are not fighting 2 wars and involved in a war with terrorist from the Middle East.
The Middle East is 100 years behind us so it may be 2008/21st century for us but it is more like the stone age for them.
There was nothing offensive about what I said. It is all grounded in truth and just because it is not popular does not mean it is not truthful.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 1:37 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:37 am EST)
T and Jacqueline,
All of the women in other countries are not fighting 2 wars and involved in a war with terrorist from the Middle East.
The Middle East is 100 years behind us so it may be 2008/21st century for us but it is more like the stone age for them.
There was nothing offensive about what I said. It is all grounded in truth and just because it is not popular does not mean it is not truthful.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 1:00 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:00 am EST)
Well, while I think women can be and should be SOS there are countries that aren't even willing to shake a woman's hand.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 1:46 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:46 am EST)
Patrice,
You are correct when you say there are countries that are not willing to shake a womens hand.
This is the point that I am trying to make. When you consider the fact that we are at war with countries that are about 100 years behind us...why would you use a women in a position that these men would not respect or negotiate fairly with her?
100 years ago women in this country could not drive, vote or hold jobs. I take nothing away from the fact that a women can be an awsome SOS but I must acknowledge the complexities she still face when dealing with men who are insulted by her presence or will not deal in good faith with her. This is a reciepe for disaster and we need to resolve these issues of the middle east and peace with Isreal and the Palestines.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 4:36 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 4:36 am EST)
This is outrageous and offensive. So, let me get this straight. Because there are other countries in the world that are sexist, we should be just like them, rather than leading by example and showing the world that racism and sexism have no place in our society. You say that they are 100 years behind us, so therefore we should stoop to their level?!
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Suzie McKay
Nov 15th 2008 at 10:59 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 10:59 am EST)
Precisely and well put.
Personally, I like Bill Richardson but will accept any nominee OUR President feels is a good match.
Thankfully, he doesn't seem to want women held back.
Being married to a powerful lawyer will do that for you.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:34 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:34 am EST)
Obamafolks!!!!
Do NOT get worked up about all this crap!
There is not ONE person who is willing to put their name to any of these "leaks".
Take a deep breath, trust our new president, and do NOT give any credence to what you're hearing unattributed in the news.
Instead, take your energy to think about and develop your ideas for policy positions for your favorite issues and submit those ideas to change.gov.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:47 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:47 am EST)
Yeah Paula!
The media is finally tired of talking about Gov. Palin and the rest of the looney tunes in the RNC, so they turn their attention to the Obama transition which has been pretty disciplined thus far.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:35 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:35 am EST)
The Hillary Clinton Machine continues to tout the experience that would make her the most qualified candidate over her inadequately qualified competitors vying for the Democrat presidential nomination. Yet she has rarely spoken, other than generalities, of any specific qualifications she has acquired in her storied career that make her the most qualified.
It would only take a rudimentary knowledge of recent history or a basic search to substantiate the fact that she has never endeavored in a high executive capacity; She has never managed anything of any consequence; She has very little aggregate experience in the Senate. She actually has less practical experience than most of her rivals that would qualify her as Commander-in-Chief.
The experiences she was involved in during high-level politics where disastrous. One of the first disasters she created after moving into the White House was the the Travel-Gate scandal. She tried her hand at health care reform with the monumental failure of Hillary-Care. The only documented experience she has was either an absolute failure or tainted with corruption or both. Dating back to the days as partner in the Rose law firm and its involvement, along with her husband, Susan and James McDougal and Vince Foster, et al in the Whitewater real estate scandal to her present day scandals relating to taking millions of dollars of dirty campaign money, there has been nothing but a trail of failure and corruption.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:39 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:39 am EST)
She, also as the “smartest women in the world and foreign policy genius”, was ”duped, tricked, and misled” into voting for the Iraq war by George Bush. According to the left, Bush’s cerebral capacity is suspect–so where does that leave the “smartest women in the world?
Clinton did speak this past week about how she risked her life performing foreign policy work for her husband’s administration. She spoke of one terrifying and life threatening trip she took to Bosnia in 1995. The landing was in a “corkscrew” fashion to avoid sniper fire. Then the takeoff from the tarmac was an all out race to dodge sniper fire. She also added that,” if a place was too dangerous, too poor or too small, send the first lady.”
This is the kind of foreign policy experience the other candidates are lacking. Who accompanied her on this, in her words, “life threatening mission”? The Marines? The Navy Seals? The Army Rangers? Perhaps a squadron of Air Force fighter jets? No! She was accompanied by an invincible platoon consisting of Sinbad the pajama wearing comedian, singer Sheryl Crow and Clinton’s 15 year old daughter, Chelsea, on a goodwill mission. Is this the type of crew anyone would choose if they were really going into a life threating situation? Is there a modicum of plausibility that this trip would have any more danger attached to it than a routine trip to Boise, Idaho?
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:40 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:40 am EST)
In finality she has absolutely no redeemable record of political, professional or personal experience that would make her the most qualified person running for the presidency.
Which leads us to this past weekend’s interviews she had with Wolf Blitzer and George Stephanopoulos concerning U.S. foreign policy with Pakistan. Hillary Clinton demonstrated her foreign policy acumen with flair.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:41 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:41 am EST)
Here we go again ...
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:44 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:44 am EST)
That's Life.....
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:46 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:46 am EST)
Wow, this is interesting.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 3:41 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 3:41 am EST)
Plus she run an awful campaign. Hillary does not manage well. She is awful as a manager. At least she will have guidance from President Barack Obama on how to conduct foreign policy. You see foreign policy at least does not require managment all it requires are administration talking points and hillary is a good talker.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:45 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:45 am EST)
Hey folks,
Take a breath and rejoice. There will be at least two black women in very high positions in the White House: Jarret and Rice (not to mention Michelle). That's gotta be good.
:)
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:48 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:48 am EST)
Susanne what is your point?
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Patrice from Gardena, CA
Nov 15th 2008 at 12:55 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:55 am EST)
Debbie, I'm on your side but exhale. It will be ok. Let's see what happens. You and I are alike, we are passionate people and believe what we believe.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:56 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:56 am EST)
Thanks Patrice!
I pray that Barack picks the right choice and not the popular choice!
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Suzanne from CT
Nov 15th 2008 at 1:21 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:21 am EST)
Debbie, what's your point?
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Nov 15th 2008 at 1:24 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:24 am EST)
My point was that I suggested that people may take a breath and rejoice, because there will be at least two AfricanAmerican women in very high positions in the White House: Jarret and Rice (not to mention Michelle), and that that is great.
Duh. It seems one's not even allowed to SAY SOMETHING POSITIVE on this blog anymore ...
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:51 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:51 am EST)
THAT'S a wonderful thing!
Black men talk about President Obama making them feel proud, as a Black woman it does my heart wonders to see Michelle Obama as out next First Lady. Instead of video vixens and dim-wits on Maury Povich, Michelle Obama will be the example of a Black woman (or woman in general for my non Black sistas out there :^D )
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Patrice from Gardena, CA
Nov 15th 2008 at 12:57 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:57 am EST)
Many AA's are celebrating this moment in history.
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4earth, WA ☂
Nov 15th 2008 at 1:03 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:03 am EST)
And as a grandma, it tickles me pink to think of those sweet little girls running around the white house. It makes my head and heart feel good. :)
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Andréa- (You've called him everything else- now call him Mr. President!)
Nov 15th 2008 at 1:32 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:32 am EST)
Yes, the First Grandma!
I love this! I think this will add much needed stability to the girls' lives.
Extra brownie points for PE Obama- he's moving his MIL in with him!!!! :^D
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:50 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:50 am EST)
Ok, I'm not suggesting Claire McCaskil for Secretary of State but she worked very hard during this campaign. Although her state still remains a "red" state is there something in the new administration for her?
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:55 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:55 am EST)
I really like McCaskill but I still like Kerry the best!
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:56 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:56 am EST)
Claire McCaskill is my senator and I think she's great, but she is a first term senator in a state that badly needs to keep all of the democrats in office that it can. I really hope she stays where she is for another 4 years at least.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:56 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:56 am EST)
i see her as a future governor of mo.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 1:12 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:12 am EST)
does everyone have to get some payback in all of this?
I think most did this all for the same reason we did, because we had hope for everyday people...
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Nov 15th 2008 at 1:20 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:20 am EST)
good point.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 1:24 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:24 am EST)
Gosh folks, I was just thinking about loyal supporters...My goodness. Yikes.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 5:59 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 5:59 am EST)
huh?
admiring marti's point wasn't meant as an attack on you.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 1:23 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:23 am EST)
No, not at all but usually when supporters work thier butts off, sometimes they are considered for positions. I wasn't suggesting that she "SHOULD" be in his cabinet. It was just a thought.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:57 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:57 am EST)
Here in San Diego, and across the country (at least 80 cities) will be holding protests tomorrow. The passing of Prop 8 didn't just restrict same-sex couples from getting married, it strips away many of the rights they already had, and it allows for CA to rewrite our Constitution. This, in my opinion (and I'm straight), is inherently WRONG.
I've been listening to all the reasons for and against same-sex marriage but tonight (on Larry King) I heard what was far and away the most ridiculous (downright Stupid, actually) reason against same-sex marriage. A Bishop (Bishop Jackson) was voicing his "concerns" and among them was, "I'm concerned for my own daughter, that when it comes time for her to marry, she won't be able to find a suitable husband." A suitable husband ???? WTF does two gay men marrying have to do with his daughter being able to find a suitable husband??? Does he think that if a gay man is not allowed to marry a man that he'll marry his daughter instead?!?
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Nov 15th 2008 at 1:05 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:05 am EST)
That is hilarious! Sorry I missed the show! Perhaps his daughter is simply butt ugly or just plain mean, and in that case, ban or no ban, she's probably in trouble in the marriage department.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 1:16 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:16 am EST)
there is a joke in there somewhere about having a daughter only a straight guy could love.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 1:32 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:32 am EST)
If this Bishop, and all other Religious leaders who were directly involved with the passing of Prop 8 (and churches from all over the country were making financial contributions), are preaching this BS to their congregation, it's no wonder it passed -- people fail to understand what it means to be gay/lesbian/transgendered. What he said left me with the distinct impression that he, and I'm sure thousands of others must believe, is of the mindset that being gay is a matter of choice... no different from deciding which shirt you want to wear today. The more he spoke, the more it became clear that he really has no idea what he's talking about.
His other reasons included the typical man/woman/children diatribe. Apparently, the only reason why we were put on this planet is for procreation.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 1:09 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:09 am EST)
i like when it's referred to as proposition hate.
re suitable husband, this is why logic 101 should be taught in high school.
the bishop needs to be challenged and asked if his sexual orientation was a choice. for some reason, bigots think they're justified in their bigotry if they can get away with classifying being gay as merely a lifestyle choice.
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Sans Doute
Nov 15th 2008 at 1:35 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:35 am EST)
He also went on to say something about racism in the gay community. I would tell you want he had to say about that, but by then I had already tuned him out. Whatever it was, I'm sure it defied logic.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 1:12 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:12 am EST)
LOL.
That's embarrassing.
Gay rights advocates need to do some serious PR work to get folks educated. That's how the rights of the oppressed have been fought for in this country.
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Sans Doute
Nov 15th 2008 at 1:38 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:38 am EST)
Oh... and did you know that the reason why it became legal for inter-racial couples to marry is because it was still between a man and a woman; so therefore it was okay. (That was the argument brought up when the opponent of Prop 8 reminded everyone about the fact that at one time it was illegal for inter-racial couples to marry.)
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Nov 15th 2008 at 1:28 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:28 am EST)
What's really pitiful is that some "Christians" (you know those who preach about Jesus in one breath and then hate other people with the next) will think that weird argument makes total sense.
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Sans Doute
Nov 15th 2008 at 1:43 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:43 am EST)
Obviously they DID make sense to many of those fine, god-fearing, Christians.
I was driving around town on Election day and just about every single intersection that was even remotely close to a church was filled with people holding up Yes on 8 signs. The churches had the same kind of ground operation that Obama had, while those who opposed 8 had the same kind of organization that McCain had.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 1:54 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:54 am EST)
Now that surprises me. If I were gay and they were about to strip me of basic rights such as that- I would think I and other supporters would have been organized to the hilt.
Did the folks thinkg Prop 8 was not going to pass?
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Sans Doute
Nov 15th 2008 at 2:15 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 2:15 am EST)
That may have a lot to do with it as well. CA is such a liberal state, and with Obama having such a huge lead over McCain, I'm sure that many thought it wouldn't pass. But even so, those in favor of 8 were far more organized.
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Suzie McKay
Nov 15th 2008 at 11:30 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:30 am EST)
Many Californians who otherwise would have been home to work on Prop 8 were here in Nevada turning us blue.
I hosted many Obama Pride volunteers.
They gave up almost everything to help us and we Nevadans will always remember.
Californians, if I can help you in any way, please c-mail me.
And we are thinking about you today. So many of you have lost your homes in the past 2 days. We are so sorry.
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Lace; Yes We Did
Nov 15th 2008 at 1:36 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:36 am EST)
--what you said!
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Murry
Nov 15th 2008 at 1:55 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:55 am EST)
I heard that too. Absolutely ridiculous that this Bishop would blame his daughter's choices on gay men. The gay community doesn't snatch up heterosexual men. And what's wrong with remaining single anyways?! His daughter can marry or not marry as she pleases.
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Sans Doute
Nov 15th 2008 at 2:17 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 2:17 am EST)
Then there's the matter of what he would consider to be a "suitable husband" for his daughter, as if the choice was his to make.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 2:29 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 2:29 am EST)
Well hey, according to the Bible and biblical times, it ISN'T her choice to make! According to this bible that he speaks of, a RAPIST makes a suitable husband!!!! Afterall, if a woman is raped he OWES it to her--ahem, her father--to marry her!
Deuteronomy 22:28-29
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(niv)
So there you go, Mr. Bishop--pull a Lot (
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ok, I'll shut up now. The angry atheist in me comes out at night, lol.
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Sans Doute
Nov 15th 2008 at 2:41 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 2:41 am EST)
LOL!!!!!
Angry Atheist.... meet Moronic Bishop. LOL!!
and on that introduction, I think it's time I got some sleep!
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Lace; Yes We Did
Nov 15th 2008 at 2:44 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 2:44 am EST)
yeah, time for you to get some rest.
--that Biship will be KO'd soon enough, haha ;-)
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Nov 15th 2008 at 2:43 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 2:43 am EST)
whoops, the last link was wrong:
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Nov 15th 2008 at 1:04 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:04 am EST)
Alaska Senate: Begich Widens Lead Slightly
Democrat Mark Begich now leads Sen. Ted Stevens (R) by just over 1,000 votes with more than 90 percent of the total ballots now counted in the high-profile Alaska Senate race.
The Alaska Division of Elections counted another 14,500 votes on Friday and Begich's lead increased from 841 before the day started to 1,022 when the counting ended.
That means that Begich has gained more than 4,200 votes on Stevens since the 90,000 early, absentee and questioned ballots began to be counted on Wednesday. There are roughly 24,000 votes left to be counted, and the counting will resume, and presumably conclude, early next week, according to the Begich campaign.
Of the remaining votes, roughly 15,000 are in the Anchorage area (a swing area in the race) and another 8,000 are in the Juneau area, which should be Begich territory.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 1:08 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:08 am EST)
While Anchorage is not totally blue, it is more liberal than other parts of he state and Begich was a very popular mayor there. If most of the ballots yet to be counted are from Anchorage, then Stevens is toast.
(I still say he will never spend a day in jail. Bush will pardon him.)
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Patrice from Gardena, CA
Nov 15th 2008 at 1:19 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:19 am EST)
I hope the democrat wins so it keeps SP there for awhile.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 11:46 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:46 am EST)
Yes! Looks very promising that Begich will win!! Hurray!! That will keep SP out of DC for awhile at least...only path I see for her going there is to run against Begich in 6 years...or down the road if a repub wins the presidency to give her a position in DC...she will never make it through a presidencial primary...but, for now, we are stuck with her as our governor for at least 2 more years. Probably she won't do much for Alaska besides work on the gasline project...reject all earmarks...and run around the country and globe polishing her 'credentials'
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Sans Doute
Nov 15th 2008 at 1:24 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:24 am EST)
It's amazing what we allow our elected officials to get away with.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 1:04 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:04 am EST)
I'm 100% certain that Barack has put more thought into his selection of SOS than the people here.
I'm confident that he will make the right decision. There is way too much emotion going into people's opinions here and not enough objective analysis.
If you really feely strongly one way or the other, do the thorough research, and come up with the pluses and minuses of the person you don't want, and the pluses and minuses of the person you do want. There should be a greater net postive for the candidate you want. Or you can just rehash the same arguments ad infinitum.
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Patrice from Gardena, CA
Nov 15th 2008 at 1:18 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:18 am EST)
Debbie did. She listed various "would be" candidates/qualifications for the job.
Many of us like other "qualified candidates" but I/We are going to wait and see and hope that it all works out.
I'm hopeful.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 1:08 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:08 am EST)
that's what really got me..the promise
I believe
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Nov 15th 2008 at 1:10 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:10 am EST)
My vote is for Kerry. I don't like the drama that goes with HRC. Whenever her name is mentioned her people begin the "spin". If she is selected, will the media overreact everything she does. However, I trust PE Obama and will support his decision. I know he will not forget Kerry, Richardson and all of those people who supported him very early.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 1:11 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:11 am EST)
Marvin Gaye was so instrumental in getting the message out about caring for the enironment and war protest songs. They are songs everyone will relate to...even Barack. Maybe you could ask a musical artist to "cover" Marvin's songs like "mercy, mercy me" or "what's going on". He was prophetic and contricuted in his way to helping Barack get elected.
In love with our brothers and sisters,
Marianne Joyce
("cool white woman")
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Nov 15th 2008 at 1:16 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:16 am EST)
My vote is for Kerry. I don't like the drama that goes with HRC. Whenever her name is mentioned her people begin the "spin". If she is selected, will the media overreact everything she does. However, I trust PE Obama and will support his decision. I know he will not forget Kerry, Richardson and all of those people who supported him very early.
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ObamaSoccerMama
Nov 15th 2008 at 1:40 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:40 am EST)
I'll take either Kerry or Richardson. NO TO HRC. Wasn't she the one that said during the campaign that she would "obliterate" a certain country (can't remember exactly which)? Now, that's real diplomatic.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 2:08 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 2:08 am EST)
and that she believes in "coercive diplomacy". We need a mindset that believes in respectful interaction with others based on mutual understanding, if we really are going to have real peace in the world and defeat barbaric mindset
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Nov 15th 2008 at 2:24 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 2:24 am EST)
you dont defeat barbarism by becomin barbaric yourself and threatening to "obliterate" an entire country because few crazy leaders did something barbaric
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Murry
Nov 15th 2008 at 1:50 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:50 am EST)
DItto here. I'm hoping that Obama picks a secretary of state that shares his world view that talking to our enemies is a good thing. I was very disturbed by Hillary's remark that she'd be open to obliterating Iran.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 1:23 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:23 am EST)
Here's a very interesting article on the pros and cons of bailing out the Big 3.
"If the Big Three don't get government checks, it's very likely that they'll run out of cash and be forced to file for Chapter 11 bankruptcy. GM, which is bleeding fastest, would be first to fall. Chapter 11 bankruptcy is an efficient process for conducting corporate triage. A retailer fails, and the creditors assume control. Some stores remain open while other are liquidated. Trade and financial creditors accept partial payment of the debts they're owed. Leases and other pre-bankruptcy legal obligations are torn asunder. Mall owners around the country move swiftly to fill the vacant space. Several months later, the winners and losers having settled and moved on, a chastened, less-burdened company emerges from bankruptcy.
But General Motors wouldn't be a typical bankruptcy. GM's management argues that the very act of filing for bankruptcy eliminates the possibility of recovery since people would be reluctant to purchase expensive, long-lived assets (cars and trucks) from a bankrupt entity. And because of GM's size and the place it occupies in the supply chain, the company's failure would likely trigger the bankruptcy of hundreds of suppliers and other companies that rely upon it.
More significantly, Chapter 11 proceedings for GM would be far more complicated than that of a retailer or of Lehman Bros. Recent experience shows that for auto companies, Chapter 11 is like the Hotel California. You can check in any time you like, but you can never leave. Auto parts supplier Delphi filed for Chapter 11 in October 2005 and still languishes there. Getting out of Chapter 11 can be tough when a) the bankrupt companies are capital-intensive manufacturers, and b) creditors are reluctant to give up on their claims. Among those with the biggest claims on the automakers in general, and GM in particular, are the United Auto Workers. It's common, especially in the fever swamps of the right, to blame the UAW for the Big Three's high cost structure and legacy costs. (Never mind that management for generations willingly entered into labor pacts, consciously trading salary increases for longer-term liabilities like guaranteeing health insurance for retirees..."
FULL ARTIICLE:
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V-Day
Nov 15th 2008 at 1:33 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:33 am EST)
they have to tie it to green fuel efficient cars....'cause they could burn thru it in a New York minute. If a bail out is in order do it on the front end not the back end. Their is a certain amount of pouring good money after bad money. Airlines perhaps can go into bankruptcy and come back learner and meaner...however the car companies seem to have a different platform. However, they are a going concern and that needs to addressed at every level.
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Andréa- (You've called him everything else- now call him Mr. President!)
Nov 15th 2008 at 1:43 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:43 am EST)
And I hate to say it... but I'm thinking the unions are going to have to give up some things too. It makes it very hard to compete when we pay $37/hr to put together cars.
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Kelly from Illinois
Nov 15th 2008 at 2:05 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 2:05 am EST)
That 37 dollars per hour is the total wage package, which includes their health insurance benefits. They don't get that much take-home.
Leave the unions alone.
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V-Day
Nov 15th 2008 at 3:43 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 3:43 am EST)
Now now. everyone needs to be held accountable. don't get me wrong.....there is a balance that we should all reach. I heard as much as 75 dollars an hours under union ties...with all the benefits... just saying.
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Suzanne from CT
Nov 15th 2008 at 1:28 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:28 am EST)
Stevens falling further behind in Alaska counting. Yeah!
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ObamaSoccerMama
Nov 15th 2008 at 1:36 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:36 am EST)
Great! That means NO chance for Palin in the senate. Sure hope Barack doesn't consider her in his Team of Rivals (hee, hee).
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Andréa- (You've called him everything else- now call him Mr. President!)
Nov 15th 2008 at 1:40 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:40 am EST)
The Best and the Brightest...
So far 0 for 2
no worries there
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Lace; Yes We Did
Nov 15th 2008 at 2:11 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 2:11 am EST)
lmao :)
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Nov 15th 2008 at 3:53 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 3:53 am EST)
Maybe Obama could make Palin an envoy to Russia (just kidding)
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Patrice from Gardena, CA
Nov 15th 2008 at 1:36 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:36 am EST)
That is good news...
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Patrice from Gardena, CA
Nov 15th 2008 at 1:41 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:41 am EST)
Believe it or not I believe that healthy disagreements are good for the sole. We can all agree to disagree "with respect".
Everyone's opinion is important and should be respected.
What's more important is that this country moves in another direction...Like forward.
Barack will (I hope) make the right decisions.
Good night, sleep well.
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Czarina Vero - who loves her new President - OBAMA!!!!!
Nov 15th 2008 at 1:44 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:44 am EST)
The phrase "right decisions" is relative. None of us know what the right decisions are either.
Obama will make the decisions he believes are right. We have to hope and pray that they work out accordingly.
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Andréa- (You've called him everything else- now call him Mr. President!)
Nov 15th 2008 at 1:50 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:50 am EST)
I agree with that sentiment.
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Patrice from Gardena, CA
Nov 15th 2008 at 2:06 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 2:06 am EST)
Andrea, Vero, Wow, I agree but there are right and wrong decisions like the war. Did my remarks tonite offend either one of you? Damn, Peace.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 1:51 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:51 am EST)
Thanks for at least trying to keeping us respectful and level-headed. Good night.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 1:43 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:43 am EST)
Obama means business, y'all.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 1:46 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:46 am EST)
If America wants to save the auto industry, the single biggest change needed is to lower the cost on their single biggest cost component per car manufactured. Surprising enough, it's not steel or labor, it's the cost of healthcare.
As of 2007, it cost General Motors over $1,500.00 per car made for employee health care coverage which is double their labor or steel cost. That's over 4 billion per year and about double what it was in year 2000. By comparision it costs General Motors only $30.00 per car manufactured in Canada and about $150.00 per car Toyota manufactures in Japan.
With production volumes dropping and health care costs spiralling out of control, it doesn't take a genius to figure out if healthcare isn't reformed quickly and costs dramatically lowered, GM will not survive.
GM, Ford and Chrysler have refined their manufacturing processes to the point that it only takes a total of 25 hours in labor to manufacture a care, so management have done a good job of running their companies.
The auto industry has been very vocal to the Bush administration regarding the health care cost issue. What they haven't been vocal on, is the change of regulation in trading of future oil contracts, implemented by Bush, which has been the real culprit in the rising cost of oil and gasoline.
Fact is, if those trading regulations hadn't been changed, oil wouldn't have sky rocketed, the cost of gas would have been relatively stable and those SUV's would still be selling. The slow down in SUV sales caused by the high cost of gasoline is a double whammy to GM, since their average auto sale value has dropped and that $1,500.00 per vehicle now repesents a huge percentage of the average sale cost. Of course as production volumes drop that $1,500 per vehicle increases the same percentage the production falls. It's like a death spiral.
So in everyone's exuburance in these coming days as congress debates a bail out program for the auto industry, just remember the auto industry wouldn't be in this difficulty if the Bush administration had done their job properly. The industry as a whole are well run, employee over 3 million Americans and need support to survive.
However, here's the wake up call to congress. Reform health care, or lose the US manufacturing base. That's as certain as the sun's going to rise tommorrow.
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V-Day
Nov 15th 2008 at 2:18 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 2:18 am EST)
Perhaps, running a company that does not produce common sense widgets is not going to cut it... in other words don't continue to ignore the future of fuel efficient cars. You can't be that short sided to see what is ahead or perhaps what was already behind us.
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Yesican
Nov 15th 2008 at 3:29 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 3:29 am EST)
Fixing Health care should seen as part of the economy. No country would want to inevst in US considering the high cost of health care. And people that start businesses in USA find it difficult to survive. Without a national Health care plan basically businesses are doomed.
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John Colton
Nov 15th 2008 at 3:55 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 3:55 am EST)
Since when was the cost of health care cost more critical to a business than making a product that the consumer wants?
Management may have figured out to to squeeze labor costs down to a minimum. But they failed a R&D - to innovate on the product itself. Making something in few hours is not substitute for innovation.
No question Health Care is a problem. But to claim this is the root cause of GM's problems is a farce. We have known for 20 years that the Japanese companies make better cars, that more people want to buy.
Bail out will only prop up a losing proposition and postponne the pain until another year.
No more $ for big business until our foreclosures are solved, our cities rebuilt, our schools are invested in and people are feed.
Those should be priorities for our money way ahead of Wall Street and Detroit millionares.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 1:55 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:55 am EST)
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Nov 15th 2008 at 2:10 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 2:10 am EST)
:)
Recovering Whine-O's Sweet Potatoe pie :)
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Nov 15th 2008 at 2:00 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 2:00 am EST)
When Republicans will try to worship Reagan's policies I will say omg how out of touch with reality they are , they are trying to imitate someone from a different time/world. Now I hear this talk about team of rivals and how Obama is following Lincoln's strategy.
My reaction is the same ,if not more. what i had to republicans worshippin Reagan. Lincoln had received 38% of the votes in a different century. In the present century we need a leader who is driven by the reality of the present in order to break free from the past with progressive thinking. We need to have modern thinking , we need to have humility and we need to have desire to change the world for the better...u can not do that with old mindset within your cabinet....in my humble opinion, if you cannot do that even with majority of the votes than when?
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Nov 15th 2008 at 2:12 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 2:12 am EST)
IMAGINE! IF THE ADMIN GAVE EVERY AMERICAN $10,000 $20,000 INSTEAD OF GIVING WALL STREET BILLIONS! WE WOULD PAY OUR BILLS, MORTGAGE, BUY SOME GROCERIES, GAS, OTHER SMALL ITEMS! TRUST US! WE WILL SPREAD THE WEALTH THAT WILL REACH EVERY CORNER OF WALL STREET! AND WE WILL DO IT CHEAPER, FASTER AND IT WILL TOUCH EVERYONE! COMMENTS PLEASE!
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Sans Doute
Nov 15th 2008 at 2:22 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 2:22 am EST)
Where do I sign up????
I would definitely pay off my credit cards; That will give more cash to the bank. Then I would take care of some home repairs; That gives money to the people I would have to hire to do the repairs. And there might be a little left over for some holiday shopping, to help out the retail industry.
That last stimulus check we received. $300.00. What a joke. The Bush Admin has done so much damage over the past 8 years that I likened that $300.00 check to punching a small child in the face and then handing him a cookie.
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Lace; Yes We Did
Nov 15th 2008 at 2:22 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 2:22 am EST)
Unfortunately, $10,000 per american would amount to three trillion dollars, 4.25x what our bailout package cost.
Additionally, 3 trillion dollars would amount to over a third of the current national debt.
If we spent $700 billion on the people, and sent everyone a check, we would all get aprox $2300. So, for a 3 person family, that makes $6900, not 10,000 or 20,000 :(
And finally, while I'm sure it's just hogwash (I'm no fan of the bailout either!), as I understand it, terms were worked into the bailout bill so that once--IF--these companies steady themselves, we would get our money back. Again, that's probably hogwash but that is what the bill ended up saying, as I understand it.
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Tammy from Tamarack, MN
Nov 15th 2008 at 2:42 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 2:42 am EST)
OKAY - I MEANT PER HOUSEHOLD. CAN YOU RECONFIGURE THAT?
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Lace; Yes We Did
Nov 15th 2008 at 2:50 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 2:50 am EST)
avg US household size is 2.6, so it'd be about $6,000.
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Loretta
Nov 15th 2008 at 2:49 pm EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 2:49 pm EST)
Sign me up. I would use the money to purchase a new car, and this would help the auto industry out a little.
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Tammy from Tamarack, MN
Nov 15th 2008 at 2:48 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 2:48 am EST)
That would be really great for me! I'm a professional home painter - and my husband is a professional carpenter
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Nov 15th 2008 at 2:59 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 2:59 am EST)
I posted this before, but I don't see it. My friend figured out that if the government would give $250,000.00 to each American over the age of 18 we could restart our economy (this would equal and be instead of the 700 billion bailout to banks). Just think most homeowners would be able to pay off their mortgage, college students could pay for college, many would pay of their educational debts, credit card bills could be wiped out, some would start businesses, and many would just spend it on stuff and all that money would be out in the economy to get it humming again.
This would be radical, but it would do the trick.
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V-Day
Nov 15th 2008 at 3:08 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 3:08 am EST)
now that would be a treat alright. unfortunately not counting on it anytime soon. Those dirty fat cats love to hear from us hard working penniless folks. I don't know what it is...but it is something that is frankly well oddly strange.
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Tammy from Tamarack, MN
Nov 15th 2008 at 3:11 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 3:11 am EST)
Radical Times are screaming for Radical Measures!
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V-Day
Nov 15th 2008 at 3:16 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 3:16 am EST)
there ya go.
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John Colton
Nov 15th 2008 at 3:18 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 3:18 am EST)
I think we should spend more on education - specifically math.
700 Billion divided by $250,000 per person = 2.8 Million people.
That would not even cover the state of ALASKA.
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Kestrel
Nov 15th 2008 at 3:52 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 3:52 am EST)
My math shows that a 700 billion bailout to Americans at $250,000 each would only cover 2.8 million people and there are over 300 million Americans.
Regardless, spending money the US doesn't have (the US is the world's biggest debtor and foreign countries will cut us off at some point), would probably further devalue our currency. We could end up with a problem like Icelands where our currency crashes.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 2:14 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 2:14 am EST)
Will someone tell me why and how these two discredited partisans are out on the air waves again? Both were drummed out of the congress for ethics violations and they are the poster boys for why we have had such gridlock in Congress for the past 16 years.
I do hope that the Republican party will grow up and put the country before their desire to be in power.
What do you all think of them?
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Nov 15th 2008 at 2:31 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 2:31 am EST)
Tom Delay is EVIL. He even looks like the devil. He's scary!!
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Nov 15th 2008 at 2:35 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 2:35 am EST)
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Nov 15th 2008 at 2:48 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 2:48 am EST)
Charles, I like the name Charles. As we all know, so many to choose from.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 2:55 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 2:55 am EST)
I hope that all positive things your campaign was offering for our votes can be realized. All the world is waiting to a positive government. A government that will really help the people, stabilize economy, and worry for the US people rather than looking for a reason to fight with other countries. The US has many problems already, I don't think that having military supervision in boarders will help. I believe that it will just make it a more hostel condition that will only help to promote discrimination. I also believe that attacking "Mexicans" doesn't help keep "terrorist" from intimidating the US, nor will make Mexico produce well paying jobs for its people!
In the other hand I believe that if your intentions are to help teachers with better salaries and benefits, I applause that. Teachers are very important for everyone, if it wasn't for them you would probably wouldn't be there nor I would be writing to you. Education is one of the most important fundamental things we all have in life. Well these are some of my opinions. I really hope that you help the world for a better place and not the big corporations that could survive on their own.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 3:12 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 3:12 am EST)
The American Promise is alive and well... The currency board is structured to fix the liquidity trap that has paralyzed the economy.
The currency board will generate taxable revenues for government; restore consumer confidence; generate revenues for banks to make credit loans for housing, autos, businesses, etc; restore confidence to the credit markets; restore the functional qualities of currency to the base monetary supply and keep it circulating through all sectors of the economy.
The currency board is a perfect fit for the U.S. economy. It will drive consumption; grow GDP; and create over 50 million new jobs for the U.S. economy. What unemployment?
The currency board has 50 million positions available for Open Opportunity Operations... that's 50 million jobs that facilitate the circulation of the base monetary supply for the United States economy.
Is the TARP working yet? When is the economic stimulus going to be issued?
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Nov 15th 2008 at 3:23 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 3:23 am EST)
Guys. This video shows this guy called Shiff talking about the economic crisis that was to befall us way back in 2007 and all the fox financial analyists were so wrong. I mean this guy should be on Obamas economic team. Keith Olberman should play this video on his comment. Maan. this guy is so prophetic.
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Trueblue
Nov 15th 2008 at 3:49 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 3:49 am EST)
Watched the video-the guy is clear, cool, matter-of-fact and seems to know his markets well. Kudos for him for speaking out-tough audience.
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Trueblue
Nov 15th 2008 at 4:23 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 4:23 am EST)
I would like to ask a question and hopefully it won't be seen as rude or offensive.
Here goes-I understand the idea of credit however, when did/does that idea become counter-productive? it seems one cannot hire a car without a credit card or have any umm"creditability" without said credit card? I got only got one 10-15 years ago because I didn't like the idea of being in debt.Just a question.
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Yesican
Nov 15th 2008 at 4:45 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 4:45 am EST)
It seems like Americas trading systeme buying and selling of goods and services has been changed from a cash transaction to that of credit based system to your point whereby without a credit card one is limited to what they can buy and sell. For instance during the last Hurricane here in Texas, one could not get any gas without a credit card. Stores were not willing to take cash but the credit card based gas tanks. You noticed also most if not all gas tanks are credit based. It appears that cash is being absolute and credit card is king. Not sure why but yep without a credit card one has less credibility.
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Trueblue
Nov 15th 2008 at 5:09 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 5:09 am EST)
So why aren't direct debit cards more popular? Higher commission rates for the company? is it a right to be able to have credit? I am disturbed by companies who give credit to people whom they know don't have the ability or means to pay the credit back, and these poor people get sued.
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Yesican
Nov 15th 2008 at 5:54 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 5:54 am EST)
Credit Cards are debt based and thats how banks make their money. With debt comes interest and with more debt the greater the interest and more late fees tugged on to the debt. So its a win win for Banks to issue credit than debit thus more money for banks.
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Trueblue
Nov 15th 2008 at 6:04 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 6:04 am EST)
I live in a country where banks are not the greatest example either but they are under massive pressure at the moment and the country's tradition and reputation is based on their modus operandi.seems this loan/credit idea comes in line with what P-E Obama was talking about when he mentioned heavy loans for education. Goodness, this is a complex subject and needs almost a instinctive "feeling" as well as totally thorough knowledge. Going to keep watching Schiff.
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Trueblue
Nov 15th 2008 at 6:24 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 6:24 am EST)
forgot to include, "the country's tradition, reputation and one of the primary bases of its economy."
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Suzie McKay
Nov 15th 2008 at 6:00 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 6:00 am EST)
You got me thinking about why we don't use cash. DH opines that cash presents a storage and security issue whereas credit is stored in the computer and generally downloaded immediately, negating these problems.
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Kestrel
Nov 15th 2008 at 4:00 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 4:00 am EST)
Peter Schiff was Ron Paul's economic advisor. He runs Europac. He has weekly radio pod casts loaded at that website if you want to keep up with his perspective.
I know it won't happen, but I'd like Ron Paul to be Treasury Secretary. Mass media, which is controlled by the same wealthy people who own the Federal Reserve, probably prevented Ron Paul from being a true frontrunner GOP candidate. He does have quite a following on the internet though by people truly concerned about our monetary policies.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 4:57 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 4:57 am EST)
Pres. Elect Obama should be looking seriously at Mr. Schiff for a position in the administration. If not Treasury the certainly a cheif advisory role of perhaps to head up the bailout.
mr. Schiff definitely called long before anyone saw it coming and although he was treated like John the Baptist and was laughed at with contempt for doing so he stuck to his guns and remained steadfast in his desire to warn America of the coming consequences.
That's a patriot and Pres. Elect Obama needs people like him.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 7:37 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 7:37 am EST)
Everyone should read the book Web of Debt (www.webofdebt.com). The boom and bust conditions in our economy are a result of banks having control of how much money (credit) is available in the economy. When banks stop lending there isn't enough money to go around.
The most disturbing fact learned so far for me is that governments have the rights to print their own money and the US Treasury turned over this right to the Federal Reserve. I never thought about or knew where our money came from. Now we borrow from the Federal Reserve to print or create deposits in the banks. Someone asking for a loan creates a credit (out of nothing) in the banks books and the person pays it back so banks really make double on the loan, sucking up all the money.
Somehow we have accepted the idea that a private bank has the right to make money off of government money. To me, it would make more sense for the interests from loans to return to goverment for spending on the common good and for the rates to stay the same no matter what. We all are okay with this because this is how it has been since Hamilton, I believe. Private (business) banks controlling publicly available money...
The Federal Reserve not being Federal but private is a problem.
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Trueblue
Nov 15th 2008 at 8:11 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 8:11 am EST)
hi Ericka, I hope you don't mind me asking a somewhat silly question-for me, money is dissociated from the notion of credit;in other words, if I can't touch, count it(lol)or smell it, there is no credit. Credit defined,IMHO, is a potential;not a solid paper bill or coins, no deal.but as you may gather, I don't have a clue in the financial sphere. I do wonder however, if the Fed.Reserve was made private to avoid the variations of the government and markets.Dunno, just asking.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 3:39 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 3:39 am EST)
I pulled my blogs down but been here since April 2008. I wish I could fly over and be part of one of the greatest, if not the greatest, elections of all time.
You lucky people :-)
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Nov 15th 2008 at 3:41 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 3:41 am EST)
I know Obama wants to be known as an African American but he is Bi-racial. A lot of people voted for him because he was raised by his White Mother and Grandparents. This is not a racial post - Remember when Tiger Woods was referred to as an African American he said that he is also Asian and if he was referred to as an African American only that would be an insult to his mother.
It is a shame that Barack's grandmother passed on and won't be able to see him sworn in. She was one heck of a woman.
Good Luck Barack - I support you.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 7:46 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 7:46 am EST)
Dottie, many AA are bi-racial. Not everyone of us are completely black if you want to look at it that way. We are of many cultures ESPECIALLY white. Posts like yours seems to me that you are offended that he is referred to as AA. Society looks at him as AA. He has experienced the things Black men have experienced, some of those things white people never will experience or will never understand. I'm glad he doesn't have a problem being referred to AA.
Tiger Woods has a problem.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 8:30 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 8:30 am EST)
Sorry Dottie blatantly- disgree.
Barack's father was AFRICAN and his mother was AMERICAN - He is African American and it has NOTHING to do with color!
Besides, he knows what and who he is - obviously you are looking at mixed colors - which is SOOOOOOO irrelevant! My son Noah is tri-racial yet he is FRANCO-AMERICAN. Why? His mother is AMERICAN and his papa is FRENCH. His color is beige!
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:40 pm EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:40 pm EST)
bingo!
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Loretta
Nov 15th 2008 at 3:37 pm EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 3:37 pm EST)
Wonderful.....I'm encouraged.
Now if we could get all Americans to be as accepting, or inclusive as you appear to be, your argument might have a little merit, but until then, it means very little.
But will keep working on it. Let's get everyone to embrace people of mixed race. We can start by ridding ourselves of racial profiling. This is something that our President-elect has experienced first hand.
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Suzie McKay
Nov 15th 2008 at 6:02 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 6:02 am EST)
Is anyone here tonight going to the Inaugural Blogger's Ball at Murphy's in Old Town on January 19? It starts at 11:30 a.m. and we'll be there, coming in from Vegas the day before. Anyone from the Open Thread going?
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Nov 15th 2008 at 9:36 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 9:36 am EST)
I think I am. Wait...a minute....I am the organizer...I think I have to go!!!
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Suzie McKay
Nov 15th 2008 at 10:48 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 10:48 am EST)
Well, howdy, Lisa! Can't wait to meet you. Bringing 3 others with me, ready willing and able to meet our bloggin' buds.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 6:10 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 6:10 am EST)
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Nov 15th 2008 at 6:32 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 6:32 am EST)
Solidarity: Sarah Palin undercuts bloggers in PJs - Rachel Maddow wears PJs on TeeVee
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Hey Georgia! You got another chance - Take another look at Jim Martin for Senate
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Hoosier Reasoning: Democratic Senator Evan Bayh of Indiana explains the rationale for keeping Lieberman to Rachel Maddow
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Alaskan Horse Race: FiveThirtyEight.com calls Mark Begich is an "overwhelming favorite to win" after today's counting
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Dr. and Mr. Vice-President Elect Joe Biden meet the Cheneys - No Shots Were Fired
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The Young Turks: Center-Right? Chris Matthews calls out Republican Todd Harris on Hardball - I say Center-Wrong!
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Lame Duck Quackitudes - How the Bush Administration's incompetence benefits the rest of us
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Blogger's Dad's first question after coming out of sedation - Who Won?
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Nate Silver on Hardball with Chris Mattews on unresolved Senate Races AND Sean of FiveThrityEight.com with news from Alaska
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RCP: 'The Silly Season Continues' AND 'things like accuracy and solid sourcing are irrelevant'
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Solving the 'Global Financial Crisis' makes the G20 mighty hungry
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Bill O'Reilly Surrounded by Pandas
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Nov 15th 2008 at 6:33 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 6:33 am EST)
Hi from Paris!
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Nov 15th 2008 at 6:38 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 6:38 am EST)
The 10 chumps who tried to stand in his way but ended up helping him!
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Nice article!
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Tracy in CT
Nov 15th 2008 at 8:36 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 8:36 am EST)
That was a good read!
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Nov 15th 2008 at 6:49 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 6:49 am EST)
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Nov 15th 2008 at 7:06 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 7:06 am EST)
Listen to & watch the President-Elect's weekly address on RealityChex.com at the
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Jasmine from Upper Marlboro, MD
Nov 15th 2008 at 7:20 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 7:20 am EST)
Ok I know a lot of you have been really objective to the Hillary chioce for SOS.
But I just heard that the Richardson guy was interviewed recently for the S.O.S Job as well.
So don't freak out!
Untill Barack ACUTALLY confirmes it, yall should just be queit.
As for my opinion.
I love Hillary, I like Bill as well.
But, I'm not sure about her as SOS.
Maybe she could help with something like Health Care Reform which she has been fighting for, for a while now.
But not SOS!
As for you Debbie saying that Barack's Choice of Hillary would be a sign of "weakness".
I TOTALY DISAGREE!
He didn't choose her as Vp did he?
He campaign hard againts her during the primary's didn't he?
So how is him possibly choosing her as part of his cabinet a sign of weakness???
Barack his ENTIRE CAREER has campaign agsints the toughest and the most nastiest campaigns out there.
And has stood up to his opponents THROUGH OUT HIS CAREER!!!!
And to some how suggets or claim him being "weak" just because he chooses someone for a cabinet seat, {that YOU OBVIOUSLY DON'T LIKE} is insulting.
If you don't like Hillary as SOS that's fine!
But don't call Barack "weak" because of your PERSONAL OPINION Of the Clintons!
If You don't like the Clintons,{which is obvious} Then that's fine.
But DO NOT INSULT BARACK!
Its un-called for and its very insulting to our new President-Elect.
And it shows that your not as "loyal" to Barack as you may claim.
Calling him "weak" is just as bad as Hillary and others calling him "naive" during the Campaign.
You would'nt want your supporters calling you "weak" just because they didn't like a certain person in you cabinet.
Now would you?????...I didn't think so.
Obama/Biden...President and Vice President-Elect!!! 08-16!
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Beverly from Harrison Township, MI
Nov 15th 2008 at 8:08 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 8:08 am EST)
Hi Jasmine, my sister lives in Upper Marlboro, I live in Detroit! My brother just moved to Texas from Waldorf. MD was my summer playground last year.
Anyway, if rumor is true, I think it was ok for Pres. Obama to feel out what others are thinking about who should be SOS. Hillary SOS - NO! Let's hope she was offered the Health Care 'Crisis' position because that's her passion.
Hillary has to become more rational and logical in her thinking if she wants to work for the Obama administration of CHANGE. Plus, she's lacking in foreign policy experience abroad, and she's not the favorite amongst foreign dignitaries. Does she speak any other language than English?
For SOS, what about Colin Powel, John Kerry, Bill Richardson, Condi Rice, Al Gore, even Chris Dodd?
I'm not in favor of the Clinton's being in any high end cabinet position right now. I'm truly sick of them being considered for anything besides the healthcare crisis or something like that. They do not represent the REAL CHANGE we need in today's society. Hillary was devisive during the campaign, so what makes us think she won't come with her own agenda or ulterior motives. SOS, this must be a joke right!
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Jasmine from Upper Marlboro, MD
Nov 15th 2008 at 8:51 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 8:51 am EST)
I understand your point Beverly.
I would rather see her in Health care Reform as well.
Although I do Like the Clintons.
Bill to me was the best president sence JFK when it comes to Democratic Presidents.
And comparied to the past 8 years of Bush.
The Bill Clinton years look like Paridise. lol!
Esp. the Economy back then!
But, I do agree that Hillary as S.O.S would'nt go well.
Her and Barack are very Defferent when it comes to Foriegn policy.
But, besides that, She is favored around the world along with Bill Clinton.
But, I would'nt jump to conclusions.
I also heard that Bill Richardson was interviewed for the job as well.
So I would'nt say anything untill THEY ACTUALLY CONFIRM IT!!
So untill then, all we can do is just sit and wonder! LOL!
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Nov 15th 2008 at 7:25 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 7:25 am EST)
I was reading the great article in the November 17th New Yorker about Obama and suddenly realized the following:
Six or seven years from now teachers from around the country will call on a child and say,
"Barack? What do you think?"
HOW many babies will be named Barack or Obama or a variation thereof?
My brother's middle name is 'Lincoln'. My uncle's middle name was 'Washington' - both hailed from Illinois by the way -
So I'm guessing about 1 MILLION new Barack's next year -
oh - from all over the globe - mostly here - but all over -
What do you think?
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Nov 15th 2008 at 8:22 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 8:22 am EST)
Ditto!! It has already begun,
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Nov 15th 2008 at 7:28 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 7:28 am EST)
Here's another reason why Mayor Mark Begich's winning of the U.S. Senate seat would be so amazingly wonderful!
Mark Begich's father Nick Begich served one term in the House, was previously an eight year member of the Alaska Senate, and taught political science at University of Alaska.
In 1972, while campaigning for reelection, Nick's plane disappeared in the Gulf of Alaska, Mark was 10 years old.
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Beverly from Harrison Township, MI
Nov 15th 2008 at 8:02 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 8:02 am EST)
Can You Say Mismanagement????????????????? ???
HALT the BAILOUTS, and attach PRECONDITIONS. Now, EVERYBODY needs a bailout. Hindsight is 20/20.
I'm one of the many Americans who is against Bailouts for corporations, financial institutions, and the like.
Why should I contribute my hard earned pennies to bailout any mismanaged business.
It's taxpayer dollars, consumption, and interest charges that fuel these industries, so without the workers and main st. consumers, there would be no banks because we could save our own money and pay bills with money orders, or via cash.
Banking is BIG business, and taxpayers are caught up in this mess!
All companies who need a bailout should cut cost, corners, and take a pay cut, or reject any pay-offs. Main St. working class folks have to do this. We cut corners all the time. Let the financial institutions and the automotuve industry cut corners so they can feel what it's like to find a job, or lose a home.
How will these entities ever learn a valuable lesson if they are spared with a bailout?
Yes, I know many people will lose jobs, but it's not the working class fault, it's the fault of mismanagement, greed, and short-sightedness. Instead, give the bailout money to people who are loosing their shirts, homes, and dignity. It's time the working class got a BIGGER piece of the pie literally.
I'm serious, bail us out; the workers. Of course the struggling companies are going to say they will fail if they don't get help soon, wouldn't you? I don't believe them. Have you ever driven by a new car lot? I can't believe all the over-production of vehicles sitting on the car lots.
Have you ever seen the financial institution's lavish lifestyles? Well, they aren't hurting, and if they are it's on 'their income level's.
NO BAILOUT! Stop All Bailouts NOW!
Working class and poor to Average Americans are living paycheck to paycheck.
I'm against mismanagement!
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Nov 15th 2008 at 8:04 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 8:04 am EST)
Why is HRC even being considered for this job? I know that the Pres.-elect has surprised me before when I doubted him, but I have yet to see any of the change I supported, volunteered, and voted for. Being Black, I have always been against Affirmative Action, based on race or gender, but this looks to me exactly like AA. If not, it is a bad understanding of the so-called teams of rivals. John Kerry gave State Senator Obama the opportunity to come on national stage and was the first to support him after the New Hampshire defeat, why shouldn't he be the next SoS. He has spent 24 years in the senate and is the second in line on the Sen. Foreign Rel. Committee, and speaks more languages than anybody who would assume that office except for John Quincy Adams. I am not sure I like what I am beginning to see and hope Tom Daschle and Bill Richardson do not face the same fate.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 8:08 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 8:08 am EST)
Why is HRC even being considered for this job? I know that the Pres.-elect has surprised me before when I doubted him, but I have yet to see any of the change I supported, volunteered, and voted for. Being Black, I have always been against Affirmative Action, based on race or gender, but this looks to me exactly like AA. If not, it is a bad understanding of the so-called teams of rivals. John Kerry gave State Senator Obama the opportunity to come on national stage and was the first to support him after the New Hampshire defeat, why shouldn't he be the next SoS. He has spent 24 years in the senate and is the second in line on the Sen. Foreign Rel. Committee, and speaks more languages than anybody who would assume that office except for John Quincy Adams. I am not sure I like what I am beginning to see and hope Tom Daschle and Bill Richardson do not face the same fate.
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Beverly from Harrison Township, MI
Nov 15th 2008 at 8:12 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 8:12 am EST)
If rumor is true, I think it was ok for President Obama to feel out what others are thinking about who should be SOS. Hillary SOS - NO! Let's hope she was offered the Health Care 'Crisis' position because that's her passion.
Hillary has to become more rational and logical in her thinking if she wants to work for the Obama administration of CHANGE. Plus, she's lacking in foreign policy experience abroad, and she's not the favorite amongst foreign dignitaries. Does she speak any other language than English?
For SOS, what about Colin Powel, John Kerry, Bill Richardson, Condi Rice, Al Gore, even Chris Dodd?
I'm not in favor of the Clinton's being in any high end cabinet position right now. I'm truly sick of them being considered for anything besides the healthcare crisis or something like that. They do not represent the REAL CHANGE we need in today's society. Hillary was divisive during the campaign, so what makes us think she won't come with her own agenda or ulterior motives. SOS, this must be a joke right!
John Kerry is owed a due!!!
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Nov 15th 2008 at 8:23 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 8:23 am EST)
exactly. She is not nearly as qualified as the others that you mentioned. Without John Kerry, Pre. Obama would never have been. And what about Chris Dodd and Bill Richardson? I understand this team of rivals B.S., but we need qualified people. Btw, I speak three languages and as you pointed out she only speak one.
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Yvonne--- for World Peace
Nov 15th 2008 at 8:31 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 8:31 am EST)
Why Europe would love Madame Secretary Hillary Clinton.
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The simple fact is, in Europe as in the U.S., Obama cannot afford to overlook the potential problem of not being able to meet the sky-high expectations that have been built up for him - the bold, self-confident choice of Hillary Clinton to restore the office of Secretary of State to its past standing would send the message far and wide that a) Obama has read his Doris Kearns Goodwin and knows the value of putting the talent of past rivals to work for you, and b) the American diplomatic presence in the world will be conducted from top to bottom with professionalism and seriousness and a strong presence at the top.
Hillary Clinton did more for the Obama presidential campaign than any defeated candidate in history, by whatever measure -- appearances on the stump, money raised, you name it. And yes, her husband was also a major asset, and that great moment on stage in Florida when the former president and the future president stood side by side probably made a difference in that state. If Obama were to choose her for Secretary of State, Hillary would throw herself into it the new role as a team player and she'd have instant respect abroad.
The same cannot be said for Bill Richardson, for example, who seems to believe he's entitled to a plum post in the new administration because the Latino vote supported Obama in large numbers. They supported Obama in large numbers because he was the best candidate. As for John Kerry, it's not really fair, given his command of foreign policy, but he carries the taint of his too-passive defeat at the hands of the fear-mongering Bush 2004 campaign, and it's hard to believe Obama would really make that call.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 1:16 pm EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:16 pm EST)
why do people only think of europe when they think of international affairs? there are asia, africa, australia, besides the americas, also. how well will the named sos do in other continenets. it's more than having popularity. none of the past sos had any form of fame before being named and it did not jeopardize their functionality.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 8:21 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 8:21 am EST)
I really don't understand why Clinton would be asked to take the Secretary of State position.
It's not that I'm against Clinton - in fact, many of you know, I started as a Clinton supporter prior to the primaries. But, I don't see the Secretary of State position as a fit for her strengths.
With her huge push for Health Care for everyone, I would have thought she would be better suited for a position that allows her to work her passion.
Help me with this.
-k
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Nov 15th 2008 at 8:27 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 8:27 am EST)
I have nothing against her, but come on. What foreign policy experience does she have? If this is true, I would be very dissapointed. But I guess it doesn't matter.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 8:33 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 8:33 am EST)
I agree. I would hire Bill Richardson or I would make him her boss. She shouldn't outrank him.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 8:27 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 8:27 am EST)
Read Collins in NYTimes
I think H Clinton would be great
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Kevin ":: g+s+ ::" Winterfield
Nov 15th 2008 at 8:38 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 8:38 am EST)
Read it. Still not convinced. Collins' piece is more of a joke than an analysis.
Again, I'm not against Clinton. I very much like her (to the anger of some of my Obama friends). But, so far, I don't see the fit.
I always think you should put people in places where their passion can shine. Has she shown any passion for this position? What happened to health care?
-k
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Yvonne--- for World Peace
Nov 15th 2008 at 8:50 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 8:50 am EST)
I think Hillary running for President shows her passion in global affairs. She ran her campaign on being more experienced than Barack, although we had all that sniper fire baloney. Besides, Uncle Ted wants the Healthcare Reform Hat. I don't see her in the Supreme Court. Her talent is in moving and shaking - like she did with her campaign, lots of energy, perserverance, good health, sharp mind, ability to adapt ... I don't see her in the confines of a desk. I think SOS is "her moment" and place in history.
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Kevin ":: g+s+ ::" Winterfield
Nov 15th 2008 at 11:10 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:10 am EST)
Maybe, but still not convinced. Giving Ted the Health Care mandate makes sense, so I can give you that. But, SOS... hmmm... I'm not there yet.
And this really isn't anything against Hillary as I do respect her quite a bit.
-k
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Yvonne--- for World Peace
Nov 15th 2008 at 8:43 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 8:43 am EST)
I think Hillary would be great. She's shown her team player support. She has visited 80 countries as first lady, and though she wasn't actually involved in policy, she is a sharp cookie, knows who's who, and as an "observer" probably has an understanding of nuances more so than the actual players.... Okay, I'm being extra positive! :-)
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Kevin ":: g+s+ ::" Winterfield
Nov 15th 2008 at 11:13 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:13 am EST)
Well, then Laura Bush should be considered then. And, don't laugh, Laura is a pretty sharp cookie herself - really.
Sorry, I can't buy visiting nations as the first lady as good enough reason to hire her for the position.
Again, just so as not to rile up Hillary supporters, I do very much respect her and I've always thought her strong focus on Health Care would be an unstoppable wall, now with a Democratic House and Senate, in getting this done.
-k
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Nov 15th 2008 at 8:30 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 8:30 am EST)
Dick Cavett takes on Sarah P's english...
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Nov 15th 2008 at 9:05 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 9:05 am EST)
Thanks! Good article.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 9:33 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 9:33 am EST)
Thanks - I responded below in a new comment - great article -
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Nov 15th 2008 at 8:31 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 8:31 am EST)
The American Auto Industry has hung itself. The reason they are in this mess is because they lost track of the basics of business - pay attention to the customer, not your greedy-ass self.
The American Auto Industry spent it's time and money lobbying washington instead of CHANGING, which is why it is about to die.
Now, the PR agents of the Auto Industry are out acting like poor, sad creatures who just need a little (25 billion +) bail out to get started again. They want us to think that it's just like jumping a car: you hook it up, start the engines and away you go. Well, it is not.
No way should we bail out the American Auto Industry if they do NOTHING to CHANGE. Any dollar given to this group of losers should be based on well-defined conditions of change. We ALL KNOW what that means. It means not going in the same losing direction they've gone in. It means paying attention to the customer and delivering products that actually satisfy customers, not profits alone.
The American Auto Industry has to PROVE to US that they "GET IT" now before we drop any cash in their tanks.
If they can't, if their words are no more truthful than their showroom salespeople, then I say let them die.
-k
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Beverly from Harrison Township, MI
Nov 15th 2008 at 8:42 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 8:42 am EST)
Can You Say Mismanagement????????????????? ???
HALT the BAILOUTS, and attach PRECONDITIONS. Now, EVERYBODY needs a bailout. Hindsight is 20/20.
I'm one of the many Americans who is against Bailouts for corporations, financial institutions, and the like.
Why should I contribute my hard earned pennies to bailout any mismanaged business.
It's taxpayer dollars, consumption, and interest charges that fuel these industries, so without the workers and main st. consumers, there would be no banks because we could save our own money and pay bills with money orders, or via cash.
Banking is BIG business, and taxpayers are caught up in this mess!
All companies who need a bailout should cut cost, corners, and take a pay cut, or reject any pay-offs. Main St. working class folks have to do this. We cut corners all the time. Let the financial institutions and the automotuve industry cut corners so they can feel what it's like to find a job, or lose a home.
How will these entities ever learn a valuable lesson if they are spared with a bailout?
Yes, I know many people will lose jobs, but it's not the working class fault, it's the fault of mismanagement, greed, and short-sightedness. Instead, give the bailout money to people who are loosing their shirts, homes, and dignity. It's time the working class got a BIGGER piece of the pie literally.
I'm serious, bail us out; the workers. Of course the struggling companies are going to say they will fail if they don't get help soon, wouldn't you? I don't believe them. Have you ever driven by a new car lot? I can't believe all the over-production of vehicles sitting on the car lots.
Have you ever seen the financial institution's lavish lifestyles? Well, they aren't hurting, and if they are it's on 'their income level's.
NO BAILOUT! Stop All Bailouts NOW!
Working class and poor to Average Americans are living paycheck to paycheck.
I'm against mismanagement!
BAIL OUT THE:
Teacher
Nurse
Salon Owner
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Doctor
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Connie_W in Arizona
Nov 15th 2008 at 8:48 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 8:48 am EST)
Thing is though, one could argue, they were listening to their customers. Well the bulk of them, anyway. Consumers wanted BIG. Big trucks, SUV's, etc. It was macho. Everyone, it seems, was rationalizing why they needed an SUV. While, I do know there are some of us who have always been more practical and energy conscious, the vast majority have not.
It hasn't been until the gas prices soared that consumers started the demand for fuel economy.
We consumers are complicit in this.
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Beverly from Harrison Township, MI
Nov 15th 2008 at 9:04 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 9:04 am EST)
totally agree about self-interests consumers. I still drive a car, and I can't see over a SUV to save my life. Not a SUV hater, but consumers must exercise self control when it comes to materials things for the sake of our environment and independence.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 11:06 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:06 am EST)
I will disagree with you. If you look at the success of the non-US car companies, it was not on the heels of SUVs... ONLY the American Auto Industry kept making SUVs LONG AFTER these types of cars were past their height of demand. If you study this you'll see that the American Auto Industry lobbied our fine people in Washington to make sure SUVs that swallow gas were not penalized they way they should have been....
If the Auto Industry had not lobbied, and instead used that $$$$ to innovate... no bailout today would be needed.
Consumers, while greedy, also realized that the cost of ownership for those cars was way above what they expected - plus it was polluting the air, etc....
Gotta be careful not to confuse MARKETING with the needs of consumers - the two are diametrically opposed. Trust me. I know this.
-k
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Nov 15th 2008 at 9:10 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 9:10 am EST)
If GM goes bankrupt it will cost 1 to 3 million jobs in this country. This will have a huge negative impact on the US economy. The ripple will be enormous. It will end up costing the taxpayer more than a bailout.
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Beverly from Harrison Township, MI
Nov 15th 2008 at 9:21 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 9:21 am EST)
maybe a ripple effect is what America needs to wake up because this coubtry have been mismanaged for far too long, and the only people taht feel the TRUE suffering are the woring class middle Americans that pay taxes from an already skinny paycheck. i say we get things back to an even playing field and hold the banks and automakers etc... accountable for their decision making.
i ubderstand how the market system works, but thing have gotten OUT of CONTROL, now everybody needs a bailout. when will it end?
heck, first bail out the people who are losing their homes and pensions that they worked so hard for.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 11:02 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:02 am EST)
What, we don't have a ripple now? C'mon, the only way they will learn is if they, and I mean the leadership, feels real pain - which means: hurt them in the pocketbook and regulate the hell out of them until they get back on track. Only give them $ if they move in the right direction.
The greedy bastards need a ripple - a big one.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 8:37 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 8:37 am EST)
I am still visiting the blog, but getting less & less interested as everyone is rehashing PEO's cabinet. He has many positions to fill & he has many people to talk to. Of course he spoke to Hilary, but it could just as easily have been to tell her "You will NOT be SOS" as that she would be. It could also have been to confirm that she will have to wait until her court case is over & she is cleared.
Give our wonderful man a break over his cabinet. Let him decide without this senseless debating here. Please!!!
Helen
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Beverly from Harrison Township, MI
Nov 15th 2008 at 8:48 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 8:48 am EST)
Not aruging, more like relating our opinions to one another, which is what Pres-e. Obama ask us to do. PEO wants to hear what his supporters think, and what better way for him to get an understanding from us than his blogsite. He's all about transparency, and yes we know how the media may have spun this HRC 4 SOS, but we're making sure he jears our pleas for NOT appointing her as SOS.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 9:13 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 9:13 am EST)
I agree that there is nothing wrong with healthy debate.
However, I agree with Helen..that it pretty much begins to sound (as Phil Grahm said) like "a nation of whiners" when the same ones keep saying the same thing along with tagging PE Obama negatively; Debating requires discussions, not tounge lashing....a negative repeat is like a broken record and that is what a tounge lashing is. The horse died, so stop beating it....
We've all supported Barack through thick and thin because we could see strength, wisdom and hope in him...therefore, some of us bear a heavy heart for him.
It's not good or fair to call him weak etc with all he has facing him until he has at least had the chance to be proven whether he is or not.
Considering the chrisis facing him to deal with, that kind of analysis should not even be attempted to determine until he has at least 365 days in office if any must; but the merciful ones will determine that under these circumstances, his 1st term should not warrent the end all damnation.
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Catherine of Riverdale, IL
Nov 15th 2008 at 8:52 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 8:52 am EST)
Amen to that Helen. There are always going to be the naysayers! But don't leave the blog...we need you to introduce fresh ideas to those who only re-hash our P-E's decisions. For instance, are you in Chicago? We are going to the inauguration! I am really excited about that! I want to be on the positive side of history...I want to tell my children what it was like when America made it's biggest change.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 9:00 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 9:00 am EST)
You're right - it is a lot of Whining, yes?
However, I try to bring in the news or other perspectives -
There has ALWAYS been "Monday Morning Quarterbacks" on this site - drives me nuts -
It's our job as a collective to bring the mood, attitude, information up to a better level.
We hired this guy - he's brilliant and well-tempered. I can honestly say I have NEITHER of those gifts.
OBAMA'S WEEKLY ADDRESS IS ON "CHANGE.GOV" -
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As for the consideration of Hillary for the Secretary of State newscasters point to the global admiration of Bill Clinton's CGI initiative, which, if you're not familiar is considered the most effective charity in the world, bringing in billions of dollars of donations from Bill Gates and many, many others.
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Khalid from Piscataway, NJ
Nov 15th 2008 at 8:46 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 8:46 am EST)
You know, this is all very good and touching and inspiration and why I went gaga for Obama. And of course I'm glad that Obama's now gonna go run the government.
But what about the rest of us? How exactly are we gonna translate that mass outpouring of fired-up inspiration to do some good for the country into concrete action? How do we channel the energy that team Obama harnessed into some good/ constructive action?
I've been cynical about politics and others' and my own motives for a long time, but now I finally feel like part of some "community" of the good or something :D I voted and donated what I could in time and money - I hope that's not all there is to it or all that's expected of the grass roots until 2012.
So now what?
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marytnurse, supporting Barack Obama until I see his library built on donations from We The People
Nov 15th 2008 at 8:57 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 8:57 am EST)
may i suggest that you call the local food bank, call the local meals on wheels, you can even call the local united way and ask where they see as being one of the better places to volunteer. if you have a desire, you can learn through the red cross to teach first aid corses, HIV/AIDS courses, CPR courses...there are a thousand ways you can volunteer your time. maybe it's best spent helping your cranky neighbor who does nothing but nag the neighborhood kids. let me tell you, chronic pain makes people crabby, and having to shovel their own walk or have it paid to be done makes things hard for them...so they look to others to shoulder their negativity. maybe you invest an hour a week helping THEM out. and then at some point you explain to them that you are doing this because of Obama's inspiration, and maybe you have them thinking differently before long.
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Recovering Whine-O
Nov 15th 2008 at 9:21 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 9:21 am EST)
Good Advice MaryT!!! How the heck are you? How is Iowa? I miss you, but we did it, we won and now we have to work on the things that make Changes, huh? TY for all your wisdom & good will during those long, long months. You made a way for so many people and you did it under a lot of stress from the floods and all that you were dealing with.
I still love you and I hope that you will continue to love & inspire the world around you!!
Give it up for MaryT y'all. She's the best!!!!!
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marytnurse, supporting Barack Obama until I see his library built on donations from We The People
Nov 15th 2008 at 11:30 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:30 am EST)
amen Val. and ty for the shout-out. iowa is healing, slowly slowly we are coming back to the top of the pool.
AND NC?!?!?! are you attending lindsey graham's drowning? YIPPEEEEE
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Nov 16th 2008 at 10:27 am EST (Updated Nov 16th 2008 at 10:27 am EST)
Ummmm - there's nothing new about charity work. Hell, folk from both sides of the aisle do that kind of stuff all the time.
No, the "what now" refers to what now in a *political* grass roots participation sense :D
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Nov 15th 2008 at 8:58 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 8:58 am EST)
Obama to pioneer Web outreach as president
By BETH FOUHY, Associated Press Writer Beth Fouhy, Associated Press Writer 1 hr 1 min ago
NEW YORK – Transition officials call it Obama 2.0 — an ambitious effort to transform the president-elect's vast Web operation and database of supporters into a modern new tool to accomplish his goals in the White House.
If it works, the new president could have an unprecedented ability to appeal for help from millions of Americans who already favor his ideas, bypassing the news media to pressure Congress.
"He's built the largest network anyone has ever seen in politics, and congressional Republicans are clueless about the communications shift that has happened," Democratic strategist Joe Trippi proclaims. The results, he says, "will be amazing to watch.
"Republicans say they'll be watching for White House Web outreach that appears overly political. "Hopefully, Obama will be a president for all Americans, not just the political supporters on his e-mail list," said Republican National Committee spokesman Alex Conant.
Obama's people know they'll have to extend their reach.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 8:48 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 8:48 am EST)
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"Make no mistake: This is the greatest economic challenge of our times," Obama said. "And while the road ahead will be long, and the work will be hard, I know that we can steer ourselves out of this crisis because here in America we always rise to the moment, no matter how hard. And I am more hopeful than ever that America will rise once again."
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First Address at change.gov |
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Nov 15th 2008 at 8:52 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 8:52 am EST)
President-Elect Barack Obama has posted his first weekly address:
http://change.gov/
First of many more to come.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 9:13 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 9:13 am EST)
Good Morning Meta,
TY for the info, I had just heard on the news that he made his first Address and I listened quite attentively!! I'm thinking that Bush will leave more of a mess than we currently know or imagine. But we'll strap ourselves in and ride it out til times get better. President-Elect Obama seems to be staying on message!! I'm trying not to get to involved in the SOS appointment or any other appointments he makes, I voted for him because I trust him, so I'ma get back to my art and let President-Elect Barack Hussein Obama run his White House.
How are you coping with the down time? Have you heard from Joe Ruwe?
Holla'back!!
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Nov 15th 2008 at 10:01 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 10:01 am EST)
Hey, Sweet, how are you? I've thought a lot about the SOS imbroglio but am keeping my mouth shut. When it comes to loyalty, I'm chapter and verse. I know Barack is looking at the whole picture - not just making appointments ad hoc - so I defer to his wisdom about how he is constructing the whole enchilada and how it will best function for the good of all.
I'm quite worried about what will become of our economy, but I also feel very reassured that Barack Obama is our next President and he do the best job to put us back on track. I will do whatever he asks of us because I know he has our best interests at heart. I want to pitch in with every bit of energy I have to make this work. We have to work together as a nation to solve these problems. I hope that gets through to all the DC Obstructionists because quite frankly, they are a dying breed. The sooner they figure that out the better off we'll all be. Otherwise it's going to be a rude awakening for the haters.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 9:18 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 9:18 am EST)
...i SWEAR, i'm not normally a crier...
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Nov 15th 2008 at 9:25 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 9:25 am EST)
Hey Mary T,
I left something upthread for you ;0)......
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Nov 15th 2008 at 10:05 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 10:05 am EST)
maryt, this has been one very emotional reality sandwich, hasn't it? Wow, when I think back on all that has happened, I can hardly believe where we are today. The enormity of it all is just staggering. I just saw a vid of the moment in Grant Park when the election was called for Barack and got totally choked up again. This is very moving, so let's just be moved.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 10:24 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 10:24 am EST)
Sandwich, Metagirl, this has been a smorgasbord of reality, emotions, passions, visions & dreams that we hoped would come true; and they did!!! When I look back over the long months, I wonder why it took people so long to see the greatness in this man and his movement?!! All the speeches, the splendor of the DNC in Denver, seeing the diversity and the humility of the devotees. We were working hard on the campaign and in our own lives to keep things moving, not to lose faith and to be ready for the win. I thought I was ready for the win, I never imagined it would leave me spent, every cell of my being letting go and accepting the goodness of it all. I've never had such a win. WE have never had such a win. Now we all see what we can do together and from now on I trust that WE will never doubt that "YES WE CAN"!!! I can't keep from rejoicing day in and day out. I found friends in this movement like you & MaryT that just understood what we were trying to do and went on with it. I am moved, Meta, everyday now just moved!!!
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Nov 15th 2008 at 10:35 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 10:35 am EST)
Val, that is EXACTLY the way I feel about everything. You are always not just entirely eloquent but completely spot on with your insights about our collective experience. It's a life-changer. So many, many stories.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 11:23 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:23 am EST)
so true Meta! (on my way upthread to read my other note...i really don't like the way things post now....maybe they will change it back with fewer people posting???)
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Nov 15th 2008 at 9:04 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 9:04 am EST)
Letter written to President-elect Barack Obama (Part 1):
Please, President-elect Barack Obama, do not appoint Hillary Clinton as your Secretary of State.
You are everything that she is not. You ran your campaign on Change, Integrity and Please, President-elect Barack Obama, do not appoint Hillary Clinton as your Secretary of State.
You are everything that she is not. You ran your campaign on Change, Integrity and Transparency. Hillary Clinton is anathema to all three.
Change: She is from an old administration; one filled with scandals. Also various heads of state have recently, explicitly expressed that they want new faces.
Transparency: Hillary Clinton is known for not being transparent. We read that one of the reasons her healthcare initiative ended in failure was her propensity to work in secrecy. She is on record for constantly changing her positions to suit the trends of the day. She has consistently denied her contributions in some of the ugly Clinton scandals, despite the forensic path leading directly to her (missing Rose Law Firm billing records; missing files from Vince Foster's office; firing of travel office with an innocent man being criminally charged; trashing of Paula Jones....The list goes on and on).
Integrity: Cattle futures, Sniper fire in Bosnia; bringing peace to Ireland; Chelsea jogging around the twin towers when they were hit on 9/11; her role in the various Clinton Whitehouse scandals. Her vicious campaign and the ugly, untrue rumours created to smear you, subsequently vigorously taken up by Sarah Palin.
...Part 2 on new post.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 9:07 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 9:07 am EST)
Letter written to President-elect Barack Obama (Part 2):
[Continuing on with reasons for Hillary Clinton not to be Secretary of State]
In addition, Hillary Clinton is one of the most divisive public figures ever. Is that an attribute for Secretary of State, where diplomacy, tact and likeability need to prevail? She cannot be trusted. Her propensity to lie explicitly and publicly despite documented truth is disturbing to say the least. Her behaviour towards competitors and others when she feels threatened is alarming (Congressman Jim Cooper from Tennessee whose healthcare proposal won more approval than hers). Most importantly, she was fired from the Watergate Judicial Committee for being a dishonest, unethical lawyer and a liar. In my view, the latter should preclude her from ever attaining high office, particularly in an administration that promises integrity.
I believe that continuing a close relationship with the Clintons will be fodder, indeed, for a revamped Republican Party in 2012. Republicans are all too aware of her record. Had Hillary Clinton won the primaries, we might have been preparing for the inauguration of President-elect John McCain. That's half the country, including Republicans who voted for you, who detest the legacy of the Clintons.
Please, please President-elect Obama, keep your promises of change, integrity and transparency.
I didn't invest more than a year of my life to see another Clinton Administration; to see your campaign promises set aside so quickly.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 10:08 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 10:08 am EST)
"IMHO", Your letter of debate contained plenty of food for thought but the last sentence (again, IMHO), negated the whole..because that last sentence sounds as if you're already "threat regreting" any contributions that you've made based upon hear say only...
Think about it, if you've ever had any one "threat regret" you when they're counting on you to help them through and they catch you pondering your plan? It doesn't help you to really want to deal with that person during the process because they are adding negative weight to an already serious situation.
("threat regret" I suppose that's a phrase, I coined for discussions relating to this candidate)
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:49 pm EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:49 pm EST)
Virginia,
I have absolutely no idea what you are trying to say.
Is it that the meaning of your coined phrase "threat regret" is obvious to only you?
I certainly haven't made any threats.
Indeed, if Obama appoints Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State, I will deeply regret having spent so much time in support of him. I believe it would be that bad of a decision.
If he doesn't appoint her Secretary of State, I will indeed regret the time I have spent foolishly bemoaning the appointment before it is made.
If one believes the press, though, it does sound as if she has been asked if she would like the position. But, how foolish of me to believe the press!!
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Nov 15th 2008 at 10:40 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 10:40 am EST)
Neva: You stated: "I didn't invest more than a year of my life to see another Clinton Administration; to see your campaign promises set aside so quickly."
I beg your pardon, sir or madam. Millions of people invested their time and money to elect Obama to the presidency.
WHY DON'T YOU TRUST HIS JUDGEMENT NOW?
Why would you make any demands on him?
Who the hell are you, in other words? He will select the BEST person for each and every job there is.
Oh, do people like you get my dander up with your "you owe me" kind of thinking. Bull-crap!
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Nov 15th 2008 at 11:42 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:42 am EST)
Bravo Thereasa; Just who do these people think they are? We have just accomplishesd the most improbable election in US history and now there seems to be some proxies among us that don't want to be led. Leadership is what it is. We have to TRUST our leadership, not LIKE it. The fact is most people don't like or appreciate good leadership, except in hind sight! Do you really know anybody else, in this world, that could have acheived what BARACK OBAMA has done. Barack's vision,foresight,intelligence, and cognitive abilities must be trusted.He has proven himself to possess these qualities. Keep in mind , the system we live in will only allow change from within. This is the primary reason third party candidates never succeed. Ranting and raving about BARACK'S decisions only creates more hurdles to overcome. I too worked for the OBAMA campaign. I donated money, I phone banked, I had a yard sign, I blogged.I recruited family and friends early on, right after he announced his candidacy, I prayed ect... My biggest contibution to his campaign, in my opinion, I trusted. AND I STILL DO! I hope HILLARY'S pet "PUMA" did not have a LITTER!!!
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Nov 15th 2008 at 1:04 pm EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:04 pm EST)
Theresa,
Of course he will select the person he sees as best for each position.
That doesn't mean everyone has to agree with his judgement as to whose best for the position, whether they voted for him or not.
Hate to tell you this, Theresa, but that's what democracy is all about.
By the way, Barack Obama owes me nothing -- absolutely nothing. It is entirely up to me to remain a supporter or not.
I'll admit I am wrong to say, ..."to see your campaign promises set aside so quickly." Very wrong, actually, because I don't know if he has made the appointment.
But I stand by not investing over a year of my life to see another Clinton Administration. I believe the Clintons are that corrupt.
So, if she is appointed Secretary of State, it will be my disappointment, and in relation to my effort for Obama, my disappointment alone. For me, it might even be a deal breaker. I'd have to make the latter decision after fading away for a while to lick my wounds.
Let's hope it won't come to that.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 9:10 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 9:10 am EST)
What a brilliant choice Hillary would be if she'll accept. For the vetting, Bill must open his papers I think, so I hope all is well there.
— They were bitter rivals during the campaign, but the newly elected U.S. president from Illinois said all along he wasn't looking for a team of allies.
"These are the most able men in the country," Abraham Lincoln said of his new Cabinet. "I'm going to need them by my side."
The explanation may be a century and a half old, but its logic is in vogue with President-elect Barack Obama, who is strongly considering his chief Democratic rival and several other former adversaries to play key roles in his administration.
Sen. Hillary Clinton could even be tapped to serve as Obama's secretary of state, a choice that would closely parallel Lincoln's appointment on that most crucial of choices for a wartime president.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 9:13 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 9:13 am EST)
By BETH FOUHY, Associated Press Writer Beth Fouhy, Associated Press
NEW YORK – Transition officials call it Obama 2.0 — an ambitious effort to transform the president-elect's vast Web operation and database of supporters into a modern new tool to accomplish his goals in the White House.
If it works, the new president could have an unprecedented ability to appeal for help from millions of Americans who already favor his ideas, bypassing the news media to pressure Congress.
"He's built the largest network anyone has ever seen in politics, and congressional Republicans are clueless about the communications shift that has happened," Democratic strategist Joe Trippi proclaims. The results, he says, "will be amazing to watch.
"Hopefully, Obama will be a president for all Americans, not just the political supporters on his e-mail list," said Republican National Committee spokesman Alex Conant.
Obama's people know they'll have to extend their reach.
Obama's team is determining how best to convert his army of online activists into a viral lobbying and communications machine.
Staffers are reluctant to discuss specifics, but Obama clearly is poised to become the first truly "wired" president of the digital age.
For legal and privacy reasons, Obama's campaign list must be kept separate from White House operations. Aides are figuring out if that list should be run through the Democratic National Committee or as a freestanding political entity that will eventually become his 2012 re-election committee.
But transition officials have already begun a new digital outreach effort, based on the campaign model, aimed at supporters and others interested in being connected to the activities of the Obama White House.
The transition operation has a new Web site,
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, designed for anyone who wants to post a message of congratulations, offer suggestions for the new administration or apply for a government job.
People are invited to submit their names and e-mail addresses, with the goal of creating a new list for the president-elect to tap when he wants to communicate directly about a program he's promoting or seek help urging members of Congress to support legislation he's proposed.
"Just imagine what happens when a congressman comes back to his district and 500 people are lined up for his town hall meeting because they got an e-mail from Obama urging them to attend," said Thomas Gensemer, managing partner of Blue State Digital which designed Obama's campaign Web site and change.gov.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 9:17 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 9:17 am EST)
Have you seen/heard his first address as PE?
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Nov 15th 2008 at 9:26 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 9:26 am EST)
Righteously Presidential!!! Bravo, Bravo, Bravo!!!
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Nov 15th 2008 at 10:34 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 10:34 am EST)
I have to admit I got a little distracted thinking I'd like him to be the in the centre of the camera not off to one side. It serves to keep the focus on him. Also books, flag and globe, too much..my eyes were trying to read what was on the books. Flag in the back so we can see stars and stripes, that's always classy. Globe? no not for the 21st century and a lot of countries on globes no longer exist, maybe a digital map of the USA or the constitution. Is the wood veneer? it looks like it and leather is a bit harsh. Also felt like he was straining looking up, not relaxed. I'm going to watch it again and try and stay focussed.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 10:59 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 10:59 am EST)
I apologise, its a plant, not a globe.. I need my eyes checked. Now i'm trying to read what's written on the plant holder..or is that a pattern. damn.. and yes congress should push the stimulus through for main street. what's taking them so long??.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 11:56 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:56 am EST)
Ha! Ok, I admit it! I got a little bit of my hope back after watching that video.
He needs to speak more often, because I'm really angry about this bailout situation, or more specifically, the AIG bailout situation.
He was able to calm me down a little bit.
Thank you Mr. President-elect.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 9:24 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 9:24 am EST)
Mrs. Michelle Obama,
I do not know if you will ever read this but I want you to know that if you ever need help from nobody in particular I am here for you. I am a retired Army Soldier. I went into the military as a first choice because I am the oldest of six and I knew my mother would not be able to send me to school. So, at 14 years old (I was always thinking ahead) I decided to go into the military where I could get an education, travel, meet people, and get paid doing it (smile). My favorite color at the time was blue so I thought to myself "who wears blue?" (I was a child) the Airforce but I lost my temper and ended up in the Army instead.
I went active Army and then I went Army Reserve, but when things got so bad that I had to split $5.00 between gas and a chicken; I went back active Army to help take care of my family. The Army has been the best thing for me. After 1 1/2 years of being active I got sick and the doctors could not say what was wrong.
I thought am I dieing and my first thought is my daughter is only 7 years old and all the things I would miss seeing. Through God's help the doctors figured out what was wrong and we learned how to control it. Two years later I was diagnosed with breast cancer and my first thought was my daughter is only 9 years old.
I am still here and my daughter is 21 years old. Without being in the Army I know I would not have received the care I needed. Others are not this fortunate. I want to help. I do not want to be someone whom just took up space. You know born, lived, died. I want to contribute to humanity as a whole and I know whatever you want to do will not only help us to grow as women in America but as Americans.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 9:36 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 9:36 am EST)
I just submitted the following response to Dick Cavett's article in the NY Times:
The hype that is Palin is manufactured. She created it, the GOP grudgingly fostered it out of desperation, and unless she works out daily at an IQ Gym for the next four years, she's history.
Palin represents Fundamentalist Rural conservatives who are anti-Evolution, anti-Stem Cell Research, and anti-Choice. These and other values mirror countries run by Fundamentalist Muslims with chilling familiarity.
Imagining Joe Six Pack run our country at this point in time scares every sane American, other than this tiny group.
There are two streams of media coming out of the GOP. One puts young bright conservatives out there, the other's the Palin Channel.
While Democrats will miss her comedic fodder Republicans want to forget this whole election season.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 10:56 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 10:56 am EST)
Overpopulation and the havoc it causes to the environment is the most serious issue facing each and everyone of us.
Sarah Palin selfishly chose to have a FIFTH child in her forties, without any regard to population, the environment or the limited resources on this finite planet.
She is on record as having known about the diagnosis of Downe Syndrome when the pregnancy could have been terminated. She does not believe in abortion, so that was not an option to her; however, she could have avoided the risk before she became pregnant. Instead, she selfishly chose to have a child who will suffer with special needs for his whole life -- subsidized no doubt by the taxpayers.
Those issues had me aghast at Palin long before her appeal to the bottom feeders of the Republican Party and her vacuous understanding of the world.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 9:47 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 9:47 am EST)
I am sure they are the biggest cause of accidents. They are impossible to see through or see around when driving on the open road & impossible in parking lots. I am surprised that the insurance companies have not called for them to be banned in Australia as they cause the accidents & usually have big bull bars so don't get damaged.
Don't get me wrong about them on the gas consumption issue I know how bad they are on that too! - I am a V8 fanatic & will not give up my super duper V8 no matter what happens to oil prices. But also please understand that I live at the top of a high up plateau that needs a powerful car to come up the hill as it is a steep rise. I have the best of everything on it including sports suspension & it is a 6 speed manual.
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Theresa in Maine
Nov 15th 2008 at 10:01 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 10:01 am EST)
Helen: HUh? What a strange post.
You state you know these are the cause of accidents and even go on to say you can't see through or around them while driving or parking.
God forbid there is a child on a bike somewhere when you're on the road, lady.
You then state you'll pay for gas no matter the price, so I have to conclude you don't have to pinch pennies.
No, I don't understand that you need a powerful car to drive up a rise where you live and I even less understand why you'd brag that you have the best of everything.
WTF are you trying to prove?
If you've got so much wealth, would you consider the poor. There are empty shelves at the food pantries and since people have to keep their used clothing, there are less clothes at the Salvation Army and Good Will to offer to the poor.
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Australian Helen
Nov 15th 2008 at 10:30 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 10:30 am EST)
Theresa,
my car is NOT an SUV. I would never buy one. Nor is my car a status symbol. It is just a mighty powerful & very safe car to drive. It has saved the lives of numerous birds & animals in daylight & night light as I can stand the damn thing literally on its nose due to that sports suspension. Any kid on a bike will be safer near it that near the average car or SUV. And yes, it is a GM car made in Australia.
Don't be so quick to judge someone. I made the point that there can be genuine reasons for driving a powerful, properly designed car & one of them is having to get from sea level to 2000 feet above sea level in a crow fly distance of about 8 miles. I also don't drive it a great deal, my mileage is still low after 5 years of owning it.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 10:55 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 10:55 am EST)
Helen: I'm sorry that I missunderstood your post. When you said: "will not give up my super duper V8" I assumed it was an SUV. I appologize for my false assumption.
However, I think all super duper V8's need to be taken off the road. I can think of no need to own and operate such gas guzzlers.
Had the big 3 in Detroit begun to make what we need they would not be in trouble now.
I couldn't afford to purchase an American made car 8 years ago, because I had to economize every way possible while approching my senior years. I needed a small car that had a reputation of not needing much repair and was excellent on gas. For the first time in my life, I became the owner of a foreign car because there was no American made cars which could meet my standards.
Still on the road and going strong is my 8 year old Toyota Corolla. And she'll take any hill in her way. She gets 40 mpg highway on the average. The new Toyota Corolla's only boast 35 mpg highway and I'm not sure why.
Again, a thousand appologies for thinking you drive an SUV.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 11:23 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:23 am EST)
Helen lives in Australia. Her driving conditions are quite different from ours. If she thinks she needs a large engine to get up to her plateau, I feel sure she needs it.
I drive a van with a very powerful engine. I can never use a battery-operated car (unless they are dramatically improved) because the van is modified to extend a ramp for my husband's electric wheelchair, necessitating more frequent brake jobs, tires and shocks. And yes, the van cost much more than most people make in a year.
Should I make less of an impact on the environment and condemn my husband to a life at home? I don't think so. I am grateful we can afford independent transportation without government assistance.
We ain't walking in her moccasins - when we do, we can criticize her actions.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 10:13 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 10:13 am EST)
Hi Helen, Totally agree with you on the SUV's being dangerous. More so because little children are impossible to spot when running out in front of these things to get a ball. Also people require no special license to drive them therefore they drive them thinking they're untouchable and bully over vehicles on the road. The exception are the offroaders and longhaulers because they have that open road experience. Driving these things in major cities is just ridiculous and another problem for the environment. Insurance companies are not going to do anything as its their bread and butter to up premiums and charge excess. I used to work for Zurich and know the mindset is very much financial risk management not safety. The non profit motoring associations have more interest in safety than insurers. On the V8, the concern for the planet overrides the speed one climbs a hill, perhaps LPG or CNG conversion.. I was encouraged to see a hybrid taxi trial car on the road in Sydney yesterday.. someone thnkings ahead.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 9:53 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 9:53 am EST)
Protests to be a key test for Proposition 8 opponents
A series of protests against the passage of Proposition 8 scheduled to take place today in Los Angeles and across the country will be a key test for a loosely formed Internet-based movement that has emerged since California voters banned gay marriage last week.....
Palmdale resident James Jackson, a member of the Church of Latter-day Saints who gave $1,000 to the Proposition 8 campaign, said he felt that the good works of his church had been forgotten in the midst of attention on the protests about the vote.
"I'm not a bigot," said Jackson, 48. "I want to be a good person. But there are certain things I just don't believe are right."
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If I could respond to Mr. Jackson (who gave $1,000 for the Prop 8 campaign) I'd tell him to mind his own business and I'd suggest his money might have helped feed the poor, clothed the naked, help the sick.
I'd also tell him to look at the roots of his own church where his ancestors were allowed and encouraged by his church to have many wives.
I'd tell Mr. Jackson to spend a day in the shoes of a gay person who desires society's ultimate stamp on this person's love relationship. I don't know what it's like to be gay. But I do know that we are all humans and thus have the same needs and desires as has all of society. I don't believe this should have been on the ballot in California to begin with.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 10:00 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 10:00 am EST)
Remember the misguided Father Jay Scott Newman of St. Mary's Catholic Church in Greenville, who told parishioners their souls would be in jeopardy if they voted for Obama and then took communion without first confessing their sin?
Well he's been reprimanded by the Diocese in Charleston.
Fortunately, Father Jay Scott doesn't speak for all Catholics.
Take a look at this:
"Here's a small example of how Obama's election has infiltrated even the smallest corners of Italy: In the small Umbrian city in which we live, the mid-November celebration of our patron saint, St. Florido, is one of the most important holidays of the year. The standing room only Mass, celebrated in the high cathedral, is attended by everyone from the mayor to our local Green Party delegate in the regional assembly in Perugia. Flanked by all the priests from the twenty-odd parish churches in our diocese, the local bishop leads the one-and-a-half hour mass and delivers the homily. Generally his remarks are confined to imploring his flock to rediscover the spirit of St. Florido and our other Umbrian saints, which is to say being more humble and observant servants of the rules of the Church.
But in this year's St. Florido Mass, celebrated on November 13th, about half-way through the homily, just after the usual remarks about the good deeds of St. Florido in the 6th century, the Bishop suddenly marched off in an unanticipated direction. "A few days ago an important politician said these words," he began. And then (in Italian) he quoted a verbatim passage from Obama's victory speech in Grant Park: "The true strength of our nation comes not from the might of our arms or the scale of our wealth, but from the enduring power of our ideals: democracy, liberty, opportunity, and unyielding hope." After a pause, with the mayor and all the leading politicians of our town sitting directly under him in the very front pews, he proceeded to state that our town - and all of Europe - needs to rediscover that same sense of hope, opportunity and renewal. Not content to stop there, he began to list what kinds of actions they needed to take: involving young people in civic and political life, welcoming immigrants, and aiding the poor. In a few short moments he had turned our normally bland town holiday into a call for social justice and action."
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Nov 15th 2008 at 10:00 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 10:00 am EST)
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I SURE HOPE THEY DESTROY THE LIVES OF THESE NEO NAZIS!
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RJ show me state
Nov 15th 2008 at 10:02 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 10:02 am EST)
I have faith and trust in you MR. President Brack Obama, I remember that we are in a very deep hole because of how bush ran the white house. and let things happen that has left a very deep and distructive scar on his legacy. I pray when you take charge and bring change to the white house that you stay grounded. so that your legacy will be one of the greatest in history. all I ask is that you consider your grandparents and your moms wisdom. they instilled in you. and with blessings our lord has given you I know you will do great things and hope the puppy brings your girls fun and happiness for thier youth. and michele our leaders best friend. bless you too
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Nov 15th 2008 at 10:04 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 10:04 am EST)
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Nov 15th 2008 at 10:24 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 10:24 am EST)
Thanks for posting this link Helaine
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HSLK: Our Journey Has Just Begun
Nov 15th 2008 at 10:59 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 10:59 am EST)
You're welcome Reggie. I'm sure Barack would have liked to attend, but that a private service later would be more appropriate.
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Hélène, with an H... like in Barack !
Nov 15th 2008 at 11:14 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:14 am EST)
Thanks from me also, Helaine ! I was very moved to see it.
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HSLK: Our Journey Has Just Begun
Nov 15th 2008 at 11:48 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:48 am EST)
You're welcome, Helene :)
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Nov 15th 2008 at 10:07 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 10:07 am EST)
I am very disappointed that HRC is being considered for Sec of State. One of the biggest reasons I volunteered for Obama throughout his campaign was his difference with her regarading foreign diplomacy. She is a hawk and uses old school approaches to diplomacy. She is a devisive personality, and I don't believe appointing her will come close to the change that the country overwhelmingly voted for two weeks ago. It is more apparent than ever that she couldn't manage her campaign, and it now appears that the addition of former Clinton staff have caused multiple leaks in the Obama boat. Basaed on all the information, how can she possibly be the best choice.
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RTV in St. Paul. This election is for JFK, MLK, and RFK. Bring it home.
Nov 15th 2008 at 10:19 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 10:19 am EST)
Maybe because Obama will be president and make the decisions. Maybe because he wants a Sec of State to challenge his thinking, so that his decisions will be well-tested. Maybe.
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Neva
Nov 15th 2008 at 10:33 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 10:33 am EST)
Clinton as Secretary of State will be an unmitigated disaster!!
John Bolton, the former United States ambassador to the United Nations, offered the incoming president this piece of advice:
“Obama should remember the rule that you never hire anybody you can’t fire, especially as secretary of state.” (1)
I have invested over a year of my life for Obama. I originally became involved to make sure Hillary Clinton, with her record, would never become president. That goal is almost one-hundred-percent accomplished. As I came to know Obama, my involvement evolved to make sure that he, with his integrity and leadership skills, becomes president.
Could I have been so wrong about Obama? Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State after his promises of change, integrity and transparency?
The disappointment would be beyond words.
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RTV in St. Paul. This election is for JFK, MLK, and RFK. Bring it home.
Nov 15th 2008 at 10:48 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 10:48 am EST)
The wisdom of John Bolton is not something I would give too much consideration to. You have a right, for sure. But I would say that guy is an unmitigated disaster of a neo-con. He's one of those "your either with me or against me" cowboys.
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Neva
Nov 15th 2008 at 11:20 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:20 am EST)
Whatever he is -- I am not familiar with him -- this little piece of advice sounds extremely sound to me, leaving my own loyalties aside.
You know, I came to expect and accept that Hillary Clinton may have some position on Obama's team, despite my aversion to the woman's viciousness, history and record.
But Secretary of State!! That is so far fetched and out of alignment with Barack Obama's promises, it will create the first and on-going problems for him. Her scandals and divisive nature will follow her wherever she goes and soil his presidency with apprehension, uncertainty and attack -- a presidency that would have had the potential for so much. His promise of change will be met with unrelenting and embarrassing derision.
...and he won't be able to get rid of her!
I hope and pray he comes through with his promises of change, INTEGRITY and transparency and appoints one of the other extremely qualified potential candidates as Secretary of State.
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Jeri, from Denver CO.
Nov 15th 2008 at 11:36 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:36 am EST)
Neva
What a complainer your are.
If your only goal was to make sure Hillary Clinton did not become President then you just as easily could have worked for John McCain's campaign.
I find it short-sighted when people whine about how much time and effort they put into President-Elect Barack Obama's campaign and that he is not doing exactly what they think he should be doing.
When you receive a gift. Do you complain that it isn't wrapped the way you want it to be?
Perhaps you should be more concerned about John Bolton's opinions and views instead of President-Elect Barack Obama's integrity and leadership skills.
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Neva
Nov 15th 2008 at 12:26 pm EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:26 pm EST)
I don't give two hoots about Bolton's opinions. I don't know anything about him. But his advice to Barack Obama is dead on.
Your post generally doesn't make any sense. Having said that, Barack Obama's integrity and leadership skills are of paramount concern to the whole world.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 10:53 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 10:53 am EST)
Why is everyone exploding on HRC????I too used to hate her during the primaries but I give her credit for the way she campaigned hard to elect BO. Change doesn't mean bringing in new people & throwing out the old ones. Change means changing the policies of last eight years using the best talent available & HRC is one of them.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 11:07 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:07 am EST)
I'm resigned to the fact no matter what I say, BO will make his choice with the interest of America at heart. That I know. The rest is heresay. Did you know the G20 is responsible for 90% of the world's GDP.
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midwest democrat
Nov 15th 2008 at 11:29 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:29 am EST)
i hope barack is not considering her because he thinks he owes her something. he doesnt owe her a thing far as i'm concerned. if he picks her that would change my view of him considerbly.
he cannot tell me that she would make a better sec. of state compared to sen. kerry or gov. richardson. c'mon he cant be serious about this.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 10:09 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 10:09 am EST)
Corey Shea -- a fallen soldier in my hometown Mansfield, MA :
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BY RICK FOSTER SUN CHRONICLE STAFF
Saturday, November 15, 2008 1:57 AM EST
Local man killed in Iraq
MANSFIELD - Three weeks ago, Army Spc. Corey Shea stood before a group of students in his town, telling them of his life as a soldier on the front in Iraq.
Today, those very students - and the entire town - are in mourning for the young soldier, who was killed in Mosul, Iraq, on Wednesday.
Shea, 21, a 2005 Mansfield High School graduate and member of the school's hockey team, was one of two U.S. servicemen killed by an Iraqi soldier in Mosul. Military officials said the Iraqi soldier suddenly opened fire on Americans at a joint security station.
Six other American GIs were wounded in the shooting.
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"Corey was very well liked," said his stepfather, Jeff Margolin. "He was the gentlest kid. If he was in a confrontation, he would be the kind of guy to make peace and go on his way."
Shea was set to return home from Iraq in January. Just three weeks ago, while on leave, he spoke to students at Mansfield High, where his kid sister, Kristin Anderson, 17, is a student.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 10:40 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 10:40 am EST)
My heartfelt gratitude goes out to the Family of Corey Shea - greater love hath no man/woman than to lay down a life for this country. May the Grace of the Almighty comfort & keep you through this time of sorrow.
TY for sharing this story. WE will end this occupation and bring our sons & daughters home!!!
THere is no other way!!!
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AZgrammy-'O'-wing
Nov 15th 2008 at 10:47 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 10:47 am EST)
So sorry for the loss of life of another upright 21-years-young soldier.
In the beginning of this war, like most Americans and especially as a Republican, I thought that the cause was just, and it was necessary to overthrow Saddam Hussein.
Hind-sight is 20-20.
Now 8 years later, a FORMER Republican, and 5 years since this war began, I wonder if we are no wiser than those Palestine mothers who are proud of their sons strapping a bomb on, and blowing up themselves along with others?
Not to denigrate the huge sacrifice of their blood, the individual heroism, great nobility of service...
But with all the death and injuries to our personnel, I question the wisdom of sending them off to be maimed and slaughtered?
Hopefully, our new President-Elec will bring this sadness to an ending....
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Nov 15th 2008 at 10:16 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 10:16 am EST)
Innovation - Obama's legacy??
Finding a "third way" was a critical part of Barack Obama's march to the presidency. He suggested (correctly) that we have been to often mired in the debates of the past and used tired old solutions for problems both old and new.
He suggested (and we who have supported him believe) that he is a break from this antiquated and dysfunctional form of governance.
Perhaps one of the first opportunities that he will have to display that HE IS DIFFERENT will come in his handling of the "Big 3" Automaker crisis.
We know that sitting idly by is not an option. We also know that a handout is not an option. A government bailout of any industry that has not effectively regulated itself (through poor business practices and greed (of both management and unions in this case) should not be undertaken.
So the question is - What is the third way in this case?
Perhaps this is an opportunity for innovation
I do not claim to know the answer but perhaps a third way is an AMERICAN REINVESTMENT CORPS (ARC).
The scenario could play out like this. One of the big 3 is allowed to fail and to file bankruptcy. And in this aftermath there would lie a unique opportunity. First, we could instead of throwing money at a poorly managed industry, give the money to the displaced workers. They would become employees in the ARC. They would be trained in the jobs of tommorrow. It would allow the workers the continued dignity and necessity of WORK. It would demonstrate to both industry and unions that there are limits to our actions and actions we must be held accountable for. It would hasten our development of green collar jobs and allow us to rebuild our infrastructure. It could possibly be a legitimate "Third way" out of this current crisis and would send a loud message to all of our citizens that this man is indeed a figure of CHANGE.
So perhaps, as the waters rise in this ever deepening economic crisis, we may begin to work our way out simply by building an "ARC"
"Block by Block, Brick by Brick, Calloused Hand by Calloused Hand"
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Nov 15th 2008 at 10:30 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 10:30 am EST)
The so called 'team of rivals" from Lincon era is not necessarly usefull at this time. Clinton's foreign policy perspective is in direct collision with what Barak has been preaching. Any prospect of peace in the middle east is grim. This is not change but more of the same. Barack is compromising his principle for the sake of popularity and likabilty. Not a sign of strong leadership.
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Kimberly Helen Hussein
Nov 15th 2008 at 10:37 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 10:37 am EST)
Enough with this.
Why is everyone acting like HRC is a second coming of GWB?
SOS has to implement the President's vision NOT vice-versa.
Chill out.
I'm tired of the Naderite temper tantrums.
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Neva
Nov 15th 2008 at 11:00 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:00 am EST)
Have you ever seen Hillary Clinton implement anyone else's vision?
Hillary Clinton has always stuck to one vision: her own; her own forever changing vision as it molds into the latest edition of what's best for Hillary.
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Kimberly Helen Hussein
Nov 15th 2008 at 11:06 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:06 am EST)
I'm just tired of the negativity.
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Neva
Nov 15th 2008 at 11:30 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:30 am EST)
When I read George Bush's record, I don't see the scandals that appear on Hillary Clinton's record.
On George Bush's record I see policies with which many disagreed, some poor judgement and an infinity with religion, but I don't see scandal.
On Hillary Clinton's record I also see policies with which many disagreed, some poor judgement and fleeting attachments to religion, but I also see scandal after scandal with her firmly in the middle.
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Kaki - Wisconsin Obama Mama
Nov 15th 2008 at 11:04 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:04 am EST)
I agree!
I haven't been on the blog for several days (work).
Remember, it Hillary hadn't whipped Barack around in the primaries the way she did, he wouldn't have been prepared for the crap thrown at him by McCain/Palin. It was a blessing to be sure.
She's a tough cookie. She's no pushover. It seems to me that is the type of person he enjoys being challenged by. Come on . . . Michelle and the Girls do not give him a pass. Toot and his Mom pushed him hard.
Barack Obama admires, respects strong women. It looks to me that they initially developed a grudging respect for each other that has transformed into admiration.
I'd rather have her working for me than against me in the Senate. Barack saw what happened to Bill Clinton when he had to deal with his own party in power. Barack would rather pull people like Hillary in close.
Well, that's my observation, anyway.
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Kimberly Helen Hussein
Nov 15th 2008 at 10:31 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 10:31 am EST)
Stop goin' Limbaugh-crazy over the possiblity of HRC being SOS.
Remember- Barack won the election. He's running the show.
Stop getting fixated on cabinet positions and staff appointments.
Change comes from policy- that's where the substance comes from.
I think some of you are losing sight of the big picture here.
That's all.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 11:09 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:09 am EST)
'Limbaugh-crazy'...
That's funny, a whole new definition of insanity! Ha!
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T. Perry
Nov 15th 2008 at 11:10 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:10 am EST)
I agree completely. Hillary will not be setting policy if she's chosen as SOS. She would be implementing Obama's policy. Ask Colin Powell how much power the SOS has. Do you blame him for the Bush doctrine? Obama wants to surround himself with the best and the brightest, regardless of whether they have always agreed with him in the past. I am not a huge fan of either Hillary or Bill, but they are both extremely intelligent. Also, as many have said, why don't we wait and see what Obama's choices are for the cabinet positions? I have really liked every choice that's been announced so far. Right now, all you're doing about is speculating on rumors.
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Kevin ":: g+s+ ::" Winterfield
Nov 15th 2008 at 11:17 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:17 am EST)
Obama won the election because we voted for him and donated our hard-earned money to him. I'm not going to just 'let him run the nation.' I'm going to make suggestions, react in a critical manner to decisions, and THINK for myself.
I'll try not to fly off the handle, but may at times. However, I will never go as far as Rush - and I do not take large amounts of pain killers for laughs.
I think Obama stands for independent thought - not group think.
-k
g+s+ :: make change happen :: !!
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Nov 15th 2008 at 11:36 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:36 am EST)
lol @ limbaugh-crazy
now THAT'S INSANE!!!
seriously, voice your concerns TO HIM via the web pages and let it go. all the tantruming isn't helping anyone. besides, it's ALL RUMORS; the campaign has ALWAYS been very tight with information, and the media is doing whatever it can to find something that may look like news. RUMORS.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 10:40 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 10:40 am EST)
Here is a teaser clip from CBS News' 60 Minutes which will air the first post-election interview with President-elect Barack Obama and wife Michelle Sunday, November 16. . . .
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Kimberly Helen Hussein
Nov 15th 2008 at 10:49 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 10:49 am EST)
I love them : )
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♥ Tanya ♥
Nov 15th 2008 at 10:41 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 10:41 am EST)
BEAUTIFUL Video of our First Lady and Next President!
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Nov 15th 2008 at 10:44 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 10:44 am EST)
President Obama
By Jerald Howard
President Obama. That sounds so good to me
President Obama. Leader of the land of the free
With Timberlands on, you'd think I was six feet five
But today I've never felt taller in any day I've been alive
Joy exudes from my body. There's an excitement I can't hide
It's so hard to explain, it's a different type of pride
Yes we can! Yes we will! And yes we did
But this is only the latest stop in our journey to rid
To rid America of it's injustice and inequality
And I thank you President Obama with great sincerity
For the dreams of all our ancestors you decided to tote
From M.L.K. to Harriet Tubman to the slaves brought over on a boat
Slaves cast away in chains... beaten with whips
Mothers who had their children torn away from their hips
Our people were sold on auction like a piece of equipment
That alone is worth a thousand years of resentment
Our women were raped freely. We were forced in the fields to pick cotton
The struggles of our people shall never be forgotten
We were sprayed with fire hoses... beaten and thrown in jail
Being black in America was the closest thing to hell
Hung from trees and set on fire from the kkk
And through it all we overcame.. Look at us today
When I was fifteen years old, a white man called me a dumb nigger
Because I said, "One day our president would be black.." How about that... go figure
He said, "Before a black man is president, it'll be a cold day in hell!"
I hope satan and his demons have bundled up well
I take time to reflect on all of the drama
We went from yes sir massa' to yes Sir, President Obama
You took Mr.. King's dream and you ran through the door
President Obama... number forty-four
Like Mike and Lebron, I wanted to wear twenty-three
But now you'll see a sticker of forty-four on any jersey on me
Just like this poem, that'll be a tribute to you
For all you have done and all you will do
I told myself when you won, I would act a straight fool
Til you stepped on that stage and redefined cool
In order to honor you, I can't act an ass
Because President Obama, you're the epitome
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Nov 15th 2008 at 10:46 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 10:46 am EST)
In order to honor you, I can't act an ass
Because President Obama, you're the epitome of class
And we thank you so much, for taking a chance
For so many people, you are a true deliverance
With the economy down and everyone wanting to mope
You made us believe. We thank you for hope
And we know the struggles not over. No this is only the beginning
But with this new found hope, we can again see the ending
Just like the Reverends Martin, Jessie, and Al saw the end of segregation
We can see the end of the struggle, under your delegation
So in what will now go down as the greatest demonstration
Of hope and change in the history of our nation
President Obama... we thank you
First Lady Obama... we thank you
People today if you're riding in anything from a hoopty to a Range
Honk your horn five times as you say, "It's Time For A Change
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Nov 15th 2008 at 10:48 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 10:48 am EST)
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♥ Tanya ♥
Nov 15th 2008 at 11:06 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:06 am EST)
WOW! Love these photos! What an impact some of them have. Thx for sharing that! :o)
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:21 pm EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:21 pm EST)
Thank you for sharing the poem and the pictures - awesome indeed!
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Nov 15th 2008 at 10:53 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 10:53 am EST)
When Barack Obama help black french
Thank you America
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Nov 15th 2008 at 10:57 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 10:57 am EST)
Here is President-elect Barack Obama's first weekly address to the nation via YouTube video. He talks about the U.S. Economy. . . .
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Nov 15th 2008 at 10:57 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 10:57 am EST)
I'm extremeley disappointed that Barack would even consider Hillary as the Sec. of State. Yes, she helped campaign for him but he doesn't owe her anything. It's as if he can't get those damn Clintons out of his head. John Kerry was the one who put his face and name on the map and there is not much speculation about him being appointed as Sec. of State. Maybe Barack thinks he needs to keep his friends close but his enemies closer because that's exactly what he is doing if he chooses Hillary Clinton to be a placed on a world stage of that magnitude.
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Kimberly Helen Hussein
Nov 15th 2008 at 11:01 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:01 am EST)
Yay! More complaining!
Keep it up.
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T. Perry
Nov 15th 2008 at 11:16 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:16 am EST)
I agree. I'm out of here. I used to really enjoy this blog, but last night and this morning have been the same thing over and over. It's worse than FISA (and I did not support Obama's vote). I wish people would give Obama some credit for thinking of all of the things we have thought about and more. I don't know about anyone else, but I voted for him because I thought he could make excellent decisions for our country. I am going to at least wait until he makes those decisions before I start criticizing them.
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♦ Gigi
Nov 15th 2008 at 11:03 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:03 am EST)
Think:
1)Who would be best for the job.
2)No drama.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 11:04 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:04 am EST)
Maybe you'll have a bit of a heart change after reading this piece by Rep. Steve Cohen. It's a good piece.
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pf from Youngstown, Ohio
Nov 15th 2008 at 11:05 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:05 am EST)
I get the feeling that the plan for Hillary is Sec. Of State from 09-12, VP from 13-16, POTUS from 17-24.
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Czarina Vero - who loves her new President - OBAMA!!!!!
Nov 15th 2008 at 12:16 pm EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:16 pm EST)
Do the math and how old she'll be by it's time for the Presidency.
Americans had a problem with McCain's age - it's no better for women.
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Von from Omaha
Nov 15th 2008 at 11:06 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:06 am EST)
I don't want here as SoS either, but your position seems to be that he should consider people for the position based on what he "owes" them. I personally have had enough of that, apparently you haven't.
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CNN (corrupt news network) loves corrupt policiticians and lobbyists.
Nov 15th 2008 at 11:32 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:32 am EST)
bill and hill can bring back US respect. I lived in europe for 7 yrs when clinton was prez. i was a good feeling. let the clintons do it,
Obama cannot do everything by himself. He and his closest team will work on domestic problems....bringing manufacturing jobs, green jobs, education jobs, make sure the middle class doesnt go down hill.....mountain of things to do.....he will be worry free with both clintons out there......its ok. it will be ok.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 11:01 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:01 am EST)
It's about us! That rings truer everyday. In order to bring about real change everyone of us will need to keep actively participating.
In the near future many increasingly aggressive attempts will be made to prevent meaningful change from occurring. Attempts will be made to divide us in order to conquer us. Attempts will be made to instill fear in us. Attempts will be made to put more of us in positions of want. Fortunately, we have learned...Together we are strong. Keep participating and we can bring about a nation and a world that focuses on Abundance instead of scarcity.
As we go through these rough times...hopefully for the last time...be considerate, show compassion and help those adversely affected any way you can.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 11:05 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:05 am EST)
May I remind Barack of the hateful things Hillary did against him during the primaries. She basically tried to demoralize him. She did things that went beyond politics. She also did things and said things against him that were not necessary or convenient. She implied that maybe he would be assassinated by June 3rd like RFK with no regard for the Kennedy family. I just pray that he stops considering his enemies to work so closely to him. I'm just now getting over the fact that he chose Joe Biden to be his running mate after Biden said during the primaries that he would rather have John McCain as President than Barack Obama as President. Yet, this was the man he chose to be his running mate. Very disappointing.
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Kimberly Helen Hussein
Nov 15th 2008 at 11:09 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:09 am EST)
Get over it.
Let go of all this negativity.
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Von from Omaha
Nov 15th 2008 at 11:11 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:11 am EST)
And I pray you grow up and understand how the world works.
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Tonya
Nov 15th 2008 at 11:18 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:18 am EST)
Some of you are so naive. Go back and follow JFK's time in office. I pray that Barack is protected and that all is well and I believe that with all my heart. I'm willing to give him a chance but I thinks he should be very cautious when it comes to his cabinet posts and so far I don't see any caution.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 11:14 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:14 am EST)
Tonya, Barack Obama is going to pick the candidate for each post that he feels will do the best job. Why would you or anyone have a problem with that?
If you worked, donated and voted for Obama, why would you not have trust in him doing the job he was elected to do.
Sit back, take a deep breath and relax. This guy is brilliant, just let him do his job.
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Jeanne, "who volunteers at the pleasure of the President" in Eugene, Oregon
Nov 15th 2008 at 11:17 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:17 am EST)
I'll post this again. If I could choose (ha!) I'd like to see Hillary on the US Supreme Court...
On the enemies thing... Barack seems to be more forgiving than many of his supporters. We voted for him, we worked for him, and now we need to trust his judgment. I'm thinking I'm going to feel disappointed now and again, because I am further to the left than he, but he has ALWAYS talked about a bipartisan team of rivals, and I look forward to seeing this play out.
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Connie_W in Arizona
Nov 15th 2008 at 12:15 pm EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:15 pm EST)
She absolutely does not have the background nor experience required to sit on the Supreme Court.
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Tonya
Nov 15th 2008 at 11:09 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:09 am EST)
Andrea Mitchell of MSNBC first broke the story about Hillary possibly being Sec. of State. I wouldn't doubt if the Hillary camp leaked that information to her so that the media could run with that story in order to somehow force Barack into choosing her. In my opinion it's a big mistake to choose her. I think he needs to let the Clinton's be; just leave them the hell alone.
Barack has an open door to the world because of the change that he represents as an American President. People don't want to see Hillary Clinton's face around the world. The know the crooks that she and her husband are and they remember that.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 11:17 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:17 am EST)
Tonya, how do you know what the world thinks of Hillary Clinton? Just so you know, the Clinton name is very well respected on the world stage particulary in the middle east. HIllary's popularity in Canada and Europe is second only to Barack Obama.
Don't make decisions on assumptions of what you think is right
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:13 pm EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:13 pm EST)
User from Canada
You need to start doing your research about Hillary Clinton's image abroad.
I suggest you start with the Middle East. Check out her association with Suha Arafat and the reaction of the Israelis when HRC kissed Suha after she wrapped up her speech accusing the Israeli's of poisoning the Palestinians with toxic gas and chemicals.
And oh yes, not to forget her associations with Islamist (vs. Islamic) movements right in the United States.
Then you can move to China. Check out the speech she made in China versus actual situations in China. Her speech was right on, but hardly one that would engage China to work with her or welcome her back -- very important for a Secretary of State.
Then, what about Kenya. Read about the outrage in Kenya when her campaign posted, with sinister intentions, pictures of Barack Obama in Kenyan tribal costume.
Ireland: check out the reaction to her false claims of bringing peace to Ireland.
Don't forget sniper fire in Bosnia.
Maybe expand your reading further. Check out Bill Clinton's business ties with dictators of former USSR countries.
As for Hillary Clinton's popularity in Canada being second only to Barack Obama, that is a mind boggling stretch of the imagination
You wouldn't have had to go any further than to check these very boards on each and every day of a primary to grasp the reality of Hillary Clinton's image abroad.
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Von from Omaha
Nov 15th 2008 at 11:18 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:18 am EST)
Is there anything in your life that you are as obsessed with as Hillary Clinton?
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Tonya
Nov 15th 2008 at 11:44 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:44 am EST)
The Clinton's don't have the respect around the world that you think they have. Do your research; I have. The decision is Barack's and I'm with him on whatever choice he makes but as a fervent support I had to state my opinion about this possible appointment of HRC. It's disappointing as I've said but it's also his choice. I'm glad we can disagree without being disagreeable.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 11:21 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:21 am EST)
Re: Disappointment at all of this DRAMA on the part of certain Obama supporters.
Well, thank God most of us supporters are of the variety of "no drama Obama".
If Hillary gets picked by "no drama Obama", then so be it.
It's his choice.
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A Rebirth
Nov 15th 2008 at 11:27 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:27 am EST)
Andrea Mitchell looked rather smug by breaking this story on MSNBC but I do believe she was rather reckless and foolish by so doing. She seems a bit too cozy with the Clinton camp while at the same time pushing the "Clinton Agenda" further every opportunity she gets. President-Elect Obama has always maintained a no-drama-Obama position and has warned several times that if we don't hear it from him then we should chill the heck out. I do believe he could make a better choice for SOS and I expect that he will in short order.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 11:13 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:13 am EST)
To appoint Hillary Clinton to that kind of world stage is to close the doors that have been opened up for him around the world. People are looking for a new face and Hillary Clinton is not that face. The least Barack should do is be as smart as George W. Bush was when he appointed Colin Powell. That choice represented something crisp, new and I think George W. Bush recognized that.
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ObamaCanada
Nov 15th 2008 at 11:22 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:22 am EST)
Tonya, people around the world are looking for someone other than GW Bush. They are estatic that Barack Obama won. Give it up and relax.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 11:49 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:49 am EST)
Several world leaders have recently explicitly expressed that they want a new face as Secretary of State.
They went on to say that they are not interested in negotiating with those from previous administrations.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 11:16 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:16 am EST)
and now for some non-speculation news ...
... staying true as an Obama supporter who reflects "no drama Obama" :
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ANCHORAGE, Alaska Stevens losing ground
Published: Saturday, November 15, 2008 at 4:22 a.m.
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fell further behind his Democratic rival Friday, and most remaining ballots come from parts of the state that have favored the challenger.
Mark Begich, the two-term mayor of Anchorage, increased his lead from 814 votes to 1,022 as state election workers counted 17,100 ballots. Begich had 47.4 percent of the vote to Stevens' 47.0 percent.
"With the gap widening slightly in our favor today, I feel even more optimistic that when all the ballots are counted next week, we'll see Alaskans came out to vote for new leadership in Washington, D.C.," Begich said in a news release.
The 25,000 remaining votes will be counted Tuesday. They come mostly from Anchorage and the surrounding area, where Begich is leading, and from the state's southeastern panhandle, where he was doing even better.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 11:17 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:17 am EST)
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Nov 15th 2008 at 11:18 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:18 am EST)
New thread !!!!!!!!!
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Nov 15th 2008 at 11:37 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:37 am EST)
Hélène your link doesn't go to a new thread....
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Kimberly Helen Hussein
Nov 15th 2008 at 11:20 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:20 am EST)
Maybe we are a nation of whiners.
The Limbaugh's and the Hannity's are already talking about the 'Obama recession' and still spouting off on Bill Ayers.
I come to theses blogs to find some sort of peace of mind only to see people threatening to bail if he doesn't choose the 'right' person for a cabinet posititon.
Are we a nation of spoiled brats, whiney children who kick and scream and spew hate when we don't get our way? Are we victims of a 24 hour news cycle? Have we become so fickle, impatient, and immature that we'll cut the President-Elect loose if he's not lock-step with our views?
I'm 19- I've supported Obama from the beginning. I didn't like the campaign HRC ran, but the campaign is over.
I prayed for Barack to be successful and I'll continue to do so. I'll pray for his entire Admin. to be successful regardless of who's in his cabinet.
I loved these blogs and it's okay to voise your opinion, but I think we should try to be more optimistic about our future. We wanted Obama and we got Obama. He can't be successful if you don't believe in him and his Admin.
Have some faith, keep the faith, and spread the faith.
Peace.
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AZgrammy-'O'-wing
Nov 15th 2008 at 11:34 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:34 am EST)
Phil Gramm said we are "a nation of whiners"...
Is he correct? Surely not!
WE all need to be praying, (however is your custom), because there's a huge upsurge of threats against Obama's life out there in crazy-land.
What would it matter WHOMEVER he chose for a cabinet, if we lose HIM???
Lord of the universe, Creator and giver of life, I pray a hedge of protection round about President-Elec Barack Obama and his family. Amen
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A Rebirth
Nov 15th 2008 at 11:39 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:39 am EST)
Amen!
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Neva
Nov 15th 2008 at 11:38 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:38 am EST)
Kimberly,
You are just 19 years old.
I suggest you read about Hillary Clinton's activities before the campaign, in the Clinton administration and before that, because the campaign was just the tip of the iceberg. Then decide whether she has the integrity and transparency to warrant the position of Secretary of State. Make your decision known.
One more thing. Thank goodness we have a nation of whiners, to use your words, because democracy and freedom count on open, vocal opposition.
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midwest democrat
Nov 15th 2008 at 11:39 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:39 am EST)
kimberly i appreciate your opinion and you have every right to that. we, however, have every right to be concerned as well about obama. we want him to pick the best people for his administration that would help run our country well. i along with many others think the choice of hillary clinton as sec of state is not in the best interest. john kerry has the knowledge and experience and will be an excellent choice for the job.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 11:20 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:20 am EST)
please be advised all Obama supporters to be careful of Obama scams this holiday season.
Several vendors are selling unauthorized and non-legimate products, Inauguaration tickets & Trips etc. in the name of President Obama and frauding the public.
I got scammed by one Obamacalendar.com that is taking money online for a product saying they are taking volunteers to Washington, DC. I never got my product.
I'm sure many more is out there. Please be advise.
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A Rebirth
Nov 15th 2008 at 11:30 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:30 am EST)
Oh lawd - not again! I am so sorry to hear about this but we have been warned numerous times to purchase only from this website. I trust you are able to get your money back, Lawrence.
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Tonya
Nov 15th 2008 at 11:26 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:26 am EST)
I'm not saying he owes John Kerry anything but I am saying that Kerry has been more loyal to him than anyone he has chosen so far. Kerry was the very first person to endorse him. Kerry gave him a platform to the world when he was still an unknown senator from Chicago. The Clinton's on the other hand still haven't gotten over Barack stealing their candy, the Presidency.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 11:29 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:29 am EST)
who control him
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Tonya
Nov 15th 2008 at 11:33 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:33 am EST)
Yes I mean to give Barack a chance because I do believe in him; I also believe he's starting off on the wrong track. He himself said there would be false starts and considering Hillary as Sec. of State is definitely a false start. People like Hillary mean him no good and now he's about to entertain John McCain. John McCain? What is he thinking? Barack acts like he lost this campaign. I know he doesn't wants to gloat but he has a right to be happy and excited about what he accomplished. I apologize for my tone but I'm just so upset at him right now.
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Neva
Nov 15th 2008 at 11:39 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:39 am EST)
Me too, Tanya.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 11:42 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:42 am EST)
"You can please some of the people all of the time,
and all of the people some of the time,
but
you CAN’T PLEASE ALL of the people all of the time."
Poet John Lydgate.
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marytnurse, supporting Barack Obama until I see his library built on donations from We The People
Nov 15th 2008 at 12:10 pm EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:10 pm EST)
Tonya, it's a tradition for the two contenders from the GE to meet. he's not considering mccain for anything.
and what IS the number one rule for the campaign? wasn't it...no drama??? so why would everyone be freaking out about this RUMORED DRAMA? if it's this much drama just that he's considering her as ONE OF his choices....then maybe we can all take a breath and relax some.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:37 pm EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:37 pm EST)
Hi Mary and Tonya..Looking back at the R campaign and the temperament we have come to know- being an executive (GOV- PRES- cabinet) is not a good fit. If anyone should have reached out, that would be Jr.
Mid America Mom
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Nov 15th 2008 at 11:38 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:38 am EST)
There will be NO CHANGE with Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State. Barack and Hillary’s foreign policy does NOT match.
Barack wants to negotiate with IRAN “Without Preconditions.”
During the primary, Hillary Clinton said “Our President Should Not Offer Meetings with Foreign Leaders Without Preconditions.”
Barack also wants to have a Presidential Summit in the Middle East about IRAQ and Afghanistan. Hillary is Against that. She wants him to set Preconditions First.
Barack wants to Engage IRAN. During the primaries, Hillary said that she was willing to “OBLITERATE IRAN” if they attacked Israel. The Iranians called her statement “PREVOCOTIVE and UN-WARRANTED.” The Iranians were so offended by Hillary’s Statement that they sent their Ambassador to the United Nations to complain about her Reckless words. The Iranians said that Hillary was in Violation of a Security Council. So with Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State, Barack Obama can forget about talking to IRAN. The Iranians will not Negotiate with him or Hillary. If somebody threatened to “Wipe-Out” my country, I will not talk to them either!!
Hillary Clinton is one of the most despised figures in the Islamic World. The Middle-Eastern Countries will take her as a joke.
Hillary criticized Barack when he said that he Would NOT use Nuclear Weapons. Hillary said that a President should Never take the Nuclear Option off the table.
Hillary is in line with Republican War Policies.
Hillary Voted FOR the IRAQ War without reading the entire Resolution. We all know that Barack Obama was AGAINST the IRAQ WAR.
Hillary Voted FOR the BUSH Doctrine to use Force against IRAN. Barack Obama Voted AGAINST it.
Barack’s Foreign Policy will become “Imperial” with Hillary Clinton as Secretary State. During the primaries, Hillary said that the U.S. “will get involved with every single conflict that flares up around the world.”
Hillary Clinton is NOT the Right person to be Secretary of State. She cannot be trusted. Barack considers her his friend. He feels that he owes her because she helped him when PA, FL and OH. He should just thank her and then Barack should move on. Hillary is Dangerous. I am not blinded because she is a woman.
There are other people in Washington More Qualified to be Secretary of State.
I pray that Barack makes the right the decision.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 11:51 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:51 am EST)
rhonda, i was agreeing with your comment until you said hillary helped barack obama win PA, OH, FL. NO SHE DID NOT! dont believe those democrats wouldn't have voted for him eventhough they voted for her in the primaries. they're democrats and they did exactly what was expected and that was to vote for the democrat candidate in the general regardless who it was. there were some very few of her supporters who wouldnt vote for obama. he got these votes on his own. dont beleive she had 18 million folks under lock and key.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:38 pm EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:38 pm EST)
having called half of the midwest, i'd have to say that's true. ok, maybe it wasn't half the midwest, but i have cauliflower ears now....anyway, the "18 million" was a primary vote, and democrats for the most part voted democracit, just as republicans voted republican.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 11:53 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:53 am EST)
Rhonda, Thank You, Thank You, Thank You!!!
You put it in words that I could not. That's exactly what I've been saying. Hillary is Barack's enemy both she and her husband. They have their own agenda. JFK chose to "play the game" of politics by choosing LBJ to be his running mate and to this day certain Historians believe LBJ had him assassinated. He brought his enemies in to close to his inner-cirlce and that's exactly what Barack is doing. He's listening to the wrong people, Joe Biden included. Joe Biden is not a friend; he's an enemy of Barack. After he made the statement that Barack would be tested within six months that confirmed it for me. I don't trust these people that he's placed in his inner circle beginning with Joe Biden. Hillary Clinton does not even need to be on the list! She's a snake and a bitter woman who will do anything for power. And if he appoints her as Sec. of State, she is going to bite and poison Barack and his cabinet.
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♥ dreamweaver "Grab A Mop" ♥ aka Vicki from Iowa
Nov 15th 2008 at 12:19 pm EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:19 pm EST)
Wow you even hate are VP?
People are forgetting that Barack is
"THE CHANGE".
His judgment has been right on so far IMHO and we have to support him instead of wanting it to be our way. That is the Bush philosophy "My way or the Highway".
Let's wait and see who Barack actually chooses before we go berserk. Is that too much to ask?
Hugs, Vicki
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:17 pm EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:17 pm EST)
And you don't think PE Obama doesn't know any of this? You don't think he's mulled all of it over?
Jeez - maybe you should be President, since it appears you know what is "right."
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Nov 15th 2008 at 11:46 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:46 am EST)
of a driver for green cars than we are aware..
China has approx 1.3 billion households with credit due to the growth of their economy and the chinese government indicated in 2001 some 20% or 20 million households will buy cars. This equates to the world's auto output for a year according to the source below.. However even in 2001 some chinese officials expressed concerns for the environment..
However, some deputies were not so upbeat about the prospects of private purchase of cars as there are many stumbling blocks such as the levy of too high surcharges, shortage of energy sources and environmental concerns.
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I imagine India will have the similar concerns.
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♥ dreamweaver "Grab A Mop" ♥ aka Vicki from Iowa
Nov 15th 2008 at 11:57 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 11:57 am EST)
I don't know if you have seen this video of Barack and Congressman Evans on election night. I had read the transcript of the meeting but here is an interview about meeting on video.
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Enjoy, Hugs, Vicki
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:03 pm EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:03 pm EST)
I know he wants to reach out across the isle but you can't reach out to everybody. The only way to deal with an enemy is to destroy and deflate their plans. Barack did that with Hillary and John but now he's reaching back to those same people who tried to demoralize him. I'm glad he forgave them but he doesn't have to restore them anything because they are still the same snakes that bit him before. A snake is a snake and given the opportunity he will strike and bite again.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:09 pm EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:09 pm EST)
I have heard that you should keep your friends close...but keep your enemies closer.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:07 pm EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:07 pm EST)
Barack Obama will tie him himself to the War Criminal George Bush if he appoints John McCain as Secretary of Defense or any other post in his cabinet. Barack and John are meeting on Monday.
Barack’s entire CHANGE theme will go up in smoke. John McCain is seen around the world to be Bush’s Twin. John McCain has NO respect for Barack. I mean NONE. His concession speech was Fake. He had to give a gracious speech. The World was watching.
John McCain is so Radical that half of the Republican base did not like him. Republican Thad Cochran said: “The Thought of John McCain being President Sends Chills Down My Spine. He his Hot-Headed and his Temper Worries Me.” Why would Barack want somebody like that in his cabinet?
Obama will be better off by keeping Mr. Gates.
With McCain and Clinton in the cabinet, Barack Obama will be seen as continuing George Bush’s Legacy.
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Czarina Vero - who loves her new President - OBAMA!!!!!
Nov 15th 2008 at 12:20 pm EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:20 pm EST)
Are you ok? When did Obama say McCain would be Sec of Defense? When did Obama say Hillary would be Sec of State?
Man, you are really going to raise your blood pressure with all of this.
You probably know .05% of what's going on, and you're determining what is "right" and what's a "huge mistake."
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:10 pm EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:10 pm EST)
Those Clinton's didn't do a "damn thing" to help Barack win. The man who he is WON this election. If anything he helped the Clinton's look good. He didn't need them to win this election. Democrats came home like they always would have. They had no monopoly the Democratic Party and it's voters. Those people voted because Barack gave him something to hope in. I wish he would stop acting like he's the loser of this campaign and stop acting like he needs those damn Clintons because he doesn't!!! I'm gone for the day....bye bye
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Connie_W in Arizona
Nov 15th 2008 at 12:19 pm EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:19 pm EST)
Say what? I'm sorry but I think you are a little misguided.
Hillary Clinton was a fierce opponent, granted. She made me angry, too. However, she has done more than any other former candidate has ever done to help get Barack Obama elected. She knocked herself out.
Barack Obama did not get himself elected. It was him, you, me, Clintons and over 50 million other people who got him elected and he'd be the first one to tell you that.
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Neva
Nov 15th 2008 at 12:34 pm EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:34 pm EST)
Knocked herself out?
She made a handful (one hand, or was it part of one hand) of eleventh hour appearances.
Self-serving appearances for one or all of the following reasons:
(1) For a cabinet position.
(2) To rehabilitate her party standing for future ambitions.
(3) The thought of Sarah Palin being on a winning presidential ticket was just too much for her to bear, particularly after she, herself, had lost.
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Nov 15th 2008 at 12:23 pm EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:23 pm EST)
Watch this young health worker from Kenya,give congratulatory messages to Barack Obama after his historic Win. The clip starts @ the 2.30 mark...
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Nov 15th 2008 at 3:58 pm EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 3:58 pm EST)
Outside of parenthood, working on this campaign has been the proudest accomplishment of my adult life. I started working in late December of 2007, worked through the primaries and into the summer. Just after the convention I attended a mini Camp Obama to learn some basic organizing skills. With my wife and another active community member I helped organize and coordinate a 170 volunteer member grassroots campaign group that we called Cherry Hill for Obama. Along the way I met many terrific people, some famous (Rahm Emanuel, James Carville & Howard Dean), and have made new friends. We helped to elect a new Congressman in New Jersey’s 3rd Congressional District (the first Democrat to win the seat since 1882), and, a new President. We’re all very proud. It was a great victory, but now it’s time for us to effect the change that we helped to begin.
But our new President can’t do this alone. We have to continue to be involved in one way or another.
To that end my watchword moving forward is purple. Why purple? Because to me purple signifies unity, not just the obvious mixing of red and blue, but the unity of purpose of America. The result of all of our hard work on this campaign has provided us a chance to improve our community and our country. But we can only do that if we stay involved. Sometimes our involvement will be symbolic. For instance, following the lead of one of our terrific group members, on November 5th I took down all of my campaign signs and in their place put up American flags. Just a symbol yes, but also a reminder to me of our common purpose and our obligation to find common ground. And sometimes our involvement must be active participation. This is a time for each of us to start considering how we can actively stay involved. In the months ahead our new President will call on us to participate, but we need not wait until he asks; we can start thinking about and organizing that process right now.
We must continue the job. I'm looking forward to the work ahead.
Eric Kipnis
Cherry Hill, NJ
President Barack Obama Inauguration Day 2009 - Washington, DC Group!!! |
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Carol Maric
Nov 15th 2008 at 4:40 pm EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 4:40 pm EST)
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Make plans to be in DC on this historical day!
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Carol Maric
Nov 15th 2008 at 4:41 pm EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 4:41 pm EST)
An open invitation to join :
President Barack Obama Inauguration Day 2009 - Washington, DC Group!!!
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Make plans to be in DC on this historical day!
Make plans to be tuned in with TV and/or the Internet.
Be out in public with friends and fellow citizens.
A Grand and Wonderful Celebration!
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Nov 15th 2008 at 5:10 pm EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 5:10 pm EST)
I think President Elect Obama should pick whom ever he thinks will help him the most to govern effectively. If he chooses Hillary, then I support that decision. He is one smart politician, and I am not going to start second guessing him now.
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Katrina from Kaneohe, HI
Nov 16th 2008 at 1:00 am EST (Updated Nov 16th 2008 at 1:00 am EST)
I am a huge supporter of President-Elect Obama, but I am very upset reguarding the idea that HRC might be chosen as SOS. I believe that Obama really does want to change Washington. But really Hillary! She is not change, no matter how anyone trys to spin it!!This is becoming too much with so many former Clinton people in the White House so far.
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Lynda Appell
Nov 16th 2008 at 1:31 pm EST (Updated Nov 16th 2008 at 1:31 pm EST)
What Obama needs to do in his first 90 days
First Barack Obama should do his best to keep his promises. With the congress being predominantly Democratic this should be relatively easy. There will not be as much Republican opposition to deal with. There are myriad number of people who voted for Obama because of what he promised.
Conversely, while I can't prove it and there are no figures, I wouldn't be terribly surprised if there were voters who voted for him, not because of what he said but because they voted against McCain. To those voters Obama needs to prove he's better than the Republican nominee for president. I say
a pretty easy task. He can deal with many types of people, situations without losing his cool. How untrue of McCain.
Speaking of the Republicans this gets to the next step Obama should make. He must do his best to reach out to every American. After all he will be the next president not only for those who voted for him. His presidency will be for everybody whose a US citizen. On his campaign web site there were links for Women for Obama, People with Disabilities for Obama, Environmentalists for Obama, Jews for Obama, Senior Citizens for Obama, Hispanics for Obama. There was even Republicans for Obama. The former Democratic IL Senator said he wants to reach out to all us. In the first three months in office he should show he means this. Specifically he must concern himself with the important issues that are relevant to different segments of our US society. For example women's health care issues, the Americans with Disabilty Act, Medicare for Seniors, etc.
The most crucial issue he should deal with as soon as possible is the economy. This affects the most people. In fact it's an issue worldwide. Hundreds of banks and major businesses are foreclosing. People are losing their employment. There is increased homelessness. Without earnings or govt. assistance people will lose their homes or be unable to pay their rents. More businesses will close if there is not enough cash to spend. He ought to diminish our presence in Iraq as much as he can. He restore our constitutional rights, including Habeas Corpus, stopping illegal wire taping and other forms of domestic spying. Last but not least Obama's task is to do his best to make us proud to be Americans.
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Ben from Naperville, IL
Nov 17th 2008 at 10:34 pm EST (Updated Nov 17th 2008 at 10:34 pm EST)
I like whats going on with most of Barack's platform, but I have to disagree with striking down DOMA (defense of marriage act) throughout America. I believe that the DOMA should be handled on a state level, maybe even on a direct vote level. The people should choose whether they want to allow gay marriage in their states or not.
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