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By James a Vietnam Vet from NC Nov 14th 2008 at 12:12 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:12 am EST)

Hillary Clinton is as Hawkish as Lieberman and McCain. She is against diplomacy with Iran, and defends Israel's illegal occupation of the West Bank.

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By . Nov 14th 2008 at 12:14 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:14 am EST)

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By Rick in Boulder, CO Nov 14th 2008 at 4:21 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 4:21 am EST)

Whatever else we may think of Hillary Clinton, she is tough and no fool. Our next Secretary of State is going to need a certain toughness and sharpness when meeting and negotiating with Putin/Medvedev, the Iranians, Hamas, the Syrians, the North Koreans, the Chinese, etc. Can you imagine Kerry being tough or sharp enough? Lugar's not interested. I believe Powell is also not interested. Nunn might be a better fit at Defense. Ditto Hagel. Richardson? Not enough gravitas for my tastes. I like Daschle for State, but he might be too much of a pushover. Clinton? Interesting choice, and this is coming from someone who absolutely detested Clinton during the primaries.

Rick

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By Tammy Nov 14th 2008 at 5:44 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 5:44 am EST)

Hillary's toughness is fake. It's just acting. She can't even make the simplest decisions. That was revealed when her campaign ended.

I actually thought Sen. Obama was going to do something bold like appoint new people. I understand there has to be some old hands, but this is ridiculous.

All Obama has to do is hand the presidency back to Bill Clinton and we'll be back in the 90s. I don't see any boldness. I don't see any creativity.

After all John Kerry has done for Obama I can't believe he would refuse to make Kerry sec of state. I find that incredibly selfish and ungrateful.

And don't say a word to me. I've been with Obama since before he announced - through all the ups and downs - all the nasty comments from Clinton - all the low poll numbers - I gave $2600 of my hard earned money - EVERYTHING!

This is the first time I'm really dissappointed.

I'm not knocking the Clinton administration. I simply believed we were going to get change.

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By Catherine of Riverdale, IL Nov 14th 2008 at 6:50 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 6:50 am EST)

Wow...how quickly we twist the knife in the back. It does not matter what decision Obama makes,someone will be disappointed. Let's cut the grumbling and get behind him. I believe he knows what he is doing. Furthermore,regarding Hillary, we are talking about gossip. He said if we haven't heard it from him, take as a grain of salt. Let's do that and not tear him down before he even gets sworn in!

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By Celtic Nov 14th 2008 at 7:41 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 7:41 am EST)

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By Celtic Nov 14th 2008 at 10:11 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:11 am EST)

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By ♥ Tanya ♥ Nov 14th 2008 at 10:47 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:47 am EST)

Ayers did a great job during the interview. Cuomo looked more and more like a twerp the longer the segment labored on.

I'm so glad that Americans rejected the politics of fear. Not this time. (Or NEXT TIME, for that matter!) :o)

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By MR TODD C. TOURE Nov 14th 2008 at 11:58 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:58 am EST)

Cuomo acted like a h### today!Stressing innuendo, looking for some "link",when Iknow for a fact Commonsense is something Barack Obama has in spades, and there were many others who met Ayers, and for him to seem to follow Dumjackass Sarah Palin's Viewpoint, Iknew someone @ABC had to write that questionaire-you know sometimes i like this kid -sometimes.

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By Roger from Dallas, TX Nov 14th 2008 at 12:31 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:31 pm EST)

Who would be best suited for Secretary of State?

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By MR TODD C. TOURE Nov 14th 2008 at 11:59 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:59 am EST)

Cuomo acted like a h### today!Stressing innuendo, looking for some "link",when Iknow for a fact Commonsense is something Barack Obama has in spades, and there were many others who met Ayers, and for him to seem to follow Dumjackass Sarah Palin's Viewpoint, Iknew someone @ABC had to write that questionaire-you know sometimes i like this kid -sometimes.

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By MR TODD C. TOURE Nov 14th 2008 at 11:59 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:59 am EST)

Cuomo acted like a h### today!Stressing innuendo, looking for some "link",when Iknow for a fact Commonsense is something Barack Obama has in spades, and there were many others who met Ayers, and for him to seem to follow Dumjackass Sarah Palin's Viewpoint, Iknew someone @ABC had to write that questionaire-you know sometimes i like this kid -sometimes.

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By MR TODD C. TOURE Nov 14th 2008 at 12:01 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:01 pm EST)

Cuomo acted like a h### today!Stressing innuendo, looking for some "link",when Iknow for a fact Commonsense is something Barack Obama has in spades, and there were many others who met Ayers, and for him to seem to follow Dumjackass Sarah Palin's Viewpoint, Iknew someone @ABC had to write that questionaire-you know sometimes i like this kid -sometimes.

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By Anne in London Nov 14th 2008 at 2:15 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:15 pm EST)

Great interview by Ayers - thanks for the link.

I have such HOPE that we can, as a people, become more intelligent, more nuanced, more thoughtful -
less stupid and fearful and easily manipulated ...

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By sharyn Nov 14th 2008 at 10:17 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:17 am EST)

i too agree, let's wait and see what barack does; however, what a difficult choice this must be. there are excellent arguments for a sec. of state john kerry, his multiple languages, his experience on the world stage; sec. of state bill richardson with his proven experience in negotiation, and like sen.kerry, his strong support for sen. obama and his ties to the latino community; and sec.of state hillary clinton. sen. obama showed, with his choice of joe biden as his running mate, he believes in shoring up his own strengths in those areas where he knows the decisions are both critical and demanding. a choice of sen. clinton as sec. of state would also add a voice he knows is not always the same has his. as now vice president elect joe biden has famously said, "speaking truth to power," should barack choose hillary, this would reinforce what i perceive as his strongest management style, along with choosing the right person for the job regardless.

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By Victoria Nov 14th 2008 at 8:03 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:03 am EST)

Excuse me, Catherine, but I think the person who has been denigrated here is Hillary Clinton. A person who campaigned all over hell and back for Obama.

You know, we used to hear in school about losing graciously. Hillary did that with the full backing of her supporters.

What we never heard mentioned (and should have apparently) is that knowing how to win with some class is pretty important too. Barack needs to call a meeting.

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By Julie S from Media, PA Nov 14th 2008 at 8:54 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:54 am EST)

I agree about Obama needing to be bold about the "change" in Washington. I understand that you have to have some people in the transition with experience. (I was dismayed to hear about the lobbiests on the team as well)

Where is the NEW?

What about Samantha Powers ? Susan Rice ?

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By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 14th 2008 at 10:59 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:59 am EST)

I agree Julia!!

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By CHELSEA Nov 14th 2008 at 7:27 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 7:27 pm EST)

I LIKE Hillary, but she is not right for this particular position.
We want to send a message to the world of CHANGE from Bush, Hillary is not change in this capacity.
Just because we are greatful that she campaigned for Obama--and she did it well, does not reverse her standing on foreign policy.
Hillary would be just fine serving in another capacity.

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By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 16th 2008 at 3:57 pm EST (Updated Nov 16th 2008 at 3:57 pm EST)

I agree with most of what you said Chelsea!!

Smile Jesus Loves You and so do I :-)

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By Yvonne--- for World Peace Nov 14th 2008 at 9:31 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 9:31 am EST)

I for one am being calm. I detested Hillary during the primaries, but there are political nuances that we don't know about.

And I think, if, chosen as Sec. of State she will be exemplary.

Out of respect to newcomers on this blog and media-- in my opinion, it would be best to hash out major gripes and concerns with some local people around you (and not on this blog)... to gain perspective and share your opinions.

We aren't going to get anywhere if our family is dysfunctional.

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By MR TODD C. TOURE Nov 14th 2008 at 12:11 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:11 pm EST)

Nuance being the prime word at this time
Barack is strategizing. One of the things about when Genius has Vision. Not everyone will see it at first, but as time procedes, the map becomes clear. Remember at first inIowa, then all other States began to take notice!Vanquishing formidable HILLARY, had to be done, so that THE REALITY OF PRESIDENT OBAMA, where we are now, could be!Try not to lose perspective here, it's about Character now, too much to obtain, and clean up,build, restructure, eliminate, and put in rightful place. This takes the BEST WOMAN, or Man for the Job!

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By MR TODD C. TOURE Nov 14th 2008 at 12:14 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:14 pm EST)

Nuance being the prime word at this time
Barack is strategizing. One of the things about when Genius has Vision. Not everyone will see it at first, but as time procedes, the map becomes clear. Remember at first inIowa, then all other States began to take notice!Vanquishing formidable HILLARY, had to be done, so that THE REALITY OF PRESIDENT OBAMA, where we are now, could be!Try not to lose perspective here, it's about Character now, too much to obtain, and clean up,build, restructure, eliminate, and put in rightful place. This takes the BEST WOMAN, or Man for the Job!

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By MR TODD C. TOURE Nov 14th 2008 at 12:17 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:17 pm EST)

Nuance being the prime word at this time
Barack is strategizing. One of the things about when Genius has Vision. Not everyone will see it at first, but as time procedes, the map becomes clear. Remember at first inIowa, then all other States began to take notice!Vanquishing formidable HILLARY, had to be done, so that THE REALITY OF PRESIDENT OBAMA, where we are now, could be!Try not to lose perspective here, it's about Character now, too much to obtain, and clean up,build, restructure, eliminate, and put in rightful place. This takes the BEST WOMAN, or Man for the Job!

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By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 14th 2008 at 10:53 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:53 am EST)

I agree Tammy!!

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By Bryce from Telford, PA Nov 14th 2008 at 11:04 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:04 am EST)

It is disheartening to see so many old school thinkers being moved into the most prominent positions in the pending Obama administration. For the first time in my 56 years of life I made political donations of time and money to the Obama campaign to change things. I found out yesterday that Robert Rubin, one of Obama's three economic advisers, was "joined at the hip" to Greenspan and associates in thwarting regulation of the financial derivatives that have brought down the global economy. Now Hillary Clinton, who regardless of her rhetoric is a dyed in the wool old school insider, is to be Sect. of State? These people and their innumerable colleagues never "got it" and do not get it now. As the Bush/Paulson (aka Clintion/Rubin) use of the "bail out" funds have demonstrated, if the old school continues to control power and thinking in Washington, then this was all just another empty exercise in nothing new politics. We committed and worked for hope and change, not just another extension of the Reagan-Bush-Clinton-Bush continuum.

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By Connie Obama (Not held hostage by polls or media) Nov 14th 2008 at 12:18 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:18 pm EST)

Just checked in on the blog and can see it's no different from yesterday. People, IT IS A RUMOR! AND ONE "BROKEN" BY ADNDREA MITCHELL, BFF AND WATER CARRIER FOR HILLARY.

Sure, Hillary campaigned for Barack; it was to her advantage to do so as well. Yesterday I posted the information about the Clintons dealings with foreign gov'ts, businesses and foreign donors to the Clinton library, along with other obstacles which would be a definite conflict of interest if whe were to be SOS.

In the interest of unity I shall not post this info again, but it seems there are people here who never did any research on the Clintons because they blindly supported Hillary. I could have gone her way at the very beginning, voted for Bill twice but considered prudent to research BOTH candidates. If you do you will know why she is not the best choice for SOS.

Look at the skills, qualifications and experience of Sens. Kerry and Richardson, skills that are their OWN, not because they traveled the world as spouse of a POTUS. Hillary is known the world over but go to thomas.loc.gov (Library of Congress) and you'll see she has a very thin legislative record and in seniority, let's face it, she is still only a junior senator in the pecking order of the senate.

I do not agree with bashing her just because of personal dislike. Facts about her background and personal info are a lot more credible and makes a case for a peron's objections, IMO.

In any case, Barack has not come this far NOT knowing what he's doing. For the person who referenced how much money she'd given and how hard she'd worked, well MOST of us did. Some of us maxed out in both the primary and GE, gave to the DNC, and the Obama Victory Fund, along with knocking on doors, registering voters and GOTV. I was one of them yet I'm not going to tear down Barack for his choices; he knows more about what he's doing than anyone on this blog. I support him and it is NOT conditional on his every choice pleasing me.

As we said during the primary, when people start whining about "this isn't change", would you rather have had the alternative? Didn't think so. I see some of us still have a lot of political maturing to do.

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By Victoria Nov 14th 2008 at 3:16 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 3:16 pm EST)

I love it when Obama people talk about "thin records" "lack of experience" and Hillary as a "junior senator." Lol. I guess these are problems for a potential Secretary of State but not so much for the President/Commander In Chief. Dear God.

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By Connie Obama (Not held hostage by polls or media) Nov 14th 2008 at 7:56 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 7:56 pm EST)

Victoria, again, check the records for yourself; I already gave you the website for the Library of Congress where you can find Barack's and Hillary's ACTUAL legislative experience.

You will find Barack in his short time in the US Senate has passed more substantive legislation than has Hillary, not to mention his record from the Illinois state senate.

It is people like you have never did any research and still refuse to do so; you find it easier to come here and sneer at the facts. I'm not bashing Hillary; just stating the FACTS.

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By cbn2 Nov 14th 2008 at 3:41 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 3:41 pm EST)

I agree. And anyone who doesn't think this represents "change" isn't thinking this through. How often have other Presidents chosen former rivals for powerful positions?! This IS change, folks. Obama doesn't hold grudges. He's assembling a political Dream Team to unite us, not divide us. Don't fall back on the usual shortsighted bickering. This is an example of WHY so many of us strongly support him. He'll consider A L L his options and choose the people he believes are best for his administration.

Did you think his talk of unity was only for campaign speeches? He obviously meant every word of it. How 'bout that? We have a new President-Elect who looks beyond partisan ego and personal grudges...CHANGE is happening. Go Obama!

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By Anne in London Nov 14th 2008 at 1:54 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:54 pm EST)

it's just fake tough -

yes, it is. she voted for the Iraq War, with a damning lack of judgement and a probable desire to be ballsy in a very macho political culture.

during the primaries, she spoke with gusto of her willingness to nuke Iran ...

secretary of state - well, great way to blow global goodwill and hope, guys ...

and hush all this talk of lining up behind our president - didn't we have more than enough of that with George Bush? can't you SEE where that led??

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By CHELSEA Nov 14th 2008 at 7:41 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 7:41 pm EST)

But this is not about grudges--this is about mindset. Who/what thinking got us into Iraq? Bush and Clinton, I don't want more of the same.
At least Hagel was agaisnt the war, I'd rather see the job go to him.
This is not about disliking Clinton--I DO like many things about her, but not her in lock step with the Bush Doctrine--no thank you!

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By CHELSEA Nov 14th 2008 at 7:44 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 7:44 pm EST)

Anne in London--you hit the nail on the head!
Cheers,
Chelsea

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By CHELSEA Nov 14th 2008 at 8:47 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:47 pm EST)

Who cares about this rival business if the choice is someone who voted in lock step with Bush and his bad ideas?
There are different rivals out there who was not in lock step with Bush and his disastrous policies--pick one of them--like Chuck Hagel.
I agree you don't want "yes men/women" at the helm but damn--let's at least get some GOOD CHANGE!
A bad idea is a bad idea no matter what pretty package you wrap it up in.
The world is watching.

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By If I had wings.... Nov 14th 2008 at 10:06 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:06 pm EST)

To Tammy,
Don't despair...trust this great man and the wisdom of his choices and the paths he follows. You have so far and you know how right his leadership has been. I have never been a Hillary supporter and was glad she didn't get the nomination but I do believe she is smart, strong, and has a great deal of respect worldwide, as does Bill. My family is from England and my cousins kept writing me during the primaries seeking understanding as to why the Dems were not supporting Hillary. I don't believe John Kerry would be a good choice for Secy of State, and though I was an early Richardson for Prez supporter I have not been impressed with his presence or words. If Secy of State Hillary would offer wise, honest and direct counsel...and at times will be in real opposition to Obama. He will stand firm when he needs to and when he believes strongly in his position, yet he will listen. We know that. If he does choose Hillary then he proves his strength of character and the strength of his inner self...it is only a strong man who is able to surround himself with others who are strong. I learned this working for the best supervisor in a long career in univ. administration. Tammy, just don't give up so easily on a great man who you have followed for so very long! He will lift us to greatness...and I turn 61 next month and have waited forty years to witness this event. Hang in there!

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By Tammy Nov 14th 2008 at 5:46 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 5:46 am EST)

Don't confuse tough with nasty. Hillary is not tough - she's nasty.

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By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 14th 2008 at 11:00 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:00 am EST)

I hear you Tammy!

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By Victoria Nov 14th 2008 at 7:07 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 7:07 am EST)

I say NO. N.O.

Hillary, if Barack offers you this position, Turn. It. Down.

You earned 18,000,000 votes in this process, you are a fabulous and independent senator from New York. You spent how many years being put down by these bastards telling you that you were nothing without Bill. You finally got the respect you deserve in your own right away from these dweebs. Don't put yourself back under any man's wing. If you are offered this position, Turn. It. Down. Please.

Let him pick Colin, or anyone else, but not you Hillary. You did your part for this nation (more than your part for which you've received the respect of all that truly matter) and you did your part for the ungrateful Obama people. Now, represent your state and let these people run the office they fought so hard for. You owe nothing more.

Stay away from it Hillary. You'll regret the involvement in the long run.

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By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 14th 2008 at 11:02 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:02 am EST)

Well Victoria don't know about all what you said but I do agree she should not be SOS!!

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By jose and change Nov 14th 2008 at 1:27 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:27 pm EST)

Looks like Senator Clinton is gonna become have some more tea with foreign leaders, kidding, kidding, I'm sure she'll kick some you what, like she did on the campaign.

Maybe Bill Clinton should be secretary of the money.

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By Connie Obama (Not held hostage by polls or media) Nov 14th 2008 at 12:34 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:34 pm EST)

Victoria, did you ever do any RECENT research on Hillary and Bill during the primary? Or, did you, like so many, just go on familiarity and how things were with BILL as POTUS?

I won't bash Hillary but I also don't close my eyes or mind to FACTUAL info that is out there. So, before you start criticizing people who disagree on Hillary maybe YOU should do a little research; it's not all personal.

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By Victoria Nov 14th 2008 at 2:39 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:39 pm EST)

Hmmm...a lot of what has been said here about Hillary is nothing except personal. You;ll see this if you read up the blog. Actually, you'll know this if you are a regular reader here.

However, when Obama needed her to campaign for him in Pennsylvania, Ohio, Florida, etc., the big questions around here was "Where's Hillary? Is she doing enough to help?" Now, of course, it's another matter. It's very personal, to me, when a many around here expected/demanded her support for their own gain (delivering her states and the 18,000,000 supporters) and then the beneficiaries of her largesse have nothing but snide, insulting remarks and unflattering innuendo afterward.

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By CHELSEA Nov 14th 2008 at 8:48 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:48 pm EST)

Connie, I agree with you.

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By Geoff from Farmington, MI Nov 14th 2008 at 8:04 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:04 am EST)

The problem with Hillary is she is stubburn, pig headed, closed minded, and "never wrong". Her comments about the middle east culture in the past is the wrong choice for this country as Secretary of State. She is no different than the current administration and look what it has gotten us. We need to have someone that is open minded and not judgemental of other cultures. We need a peace maker that can walk across the line in the sand and make compromises. Whe was the last time you heard Clinton compromise with anyone.

I beg Obama not to take a huge step back and not maker her SOS. This is the not the change we need this is more of the same.

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By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 14th 2008 at 11:02 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:02 am EST)

I agree Geoff!!

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By Scott in PA Nov 14th 2008 at 11:26 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:26 am EST)

Not a fool maybe, but Secretary of State material no.

She lacks good judgment in such matters. Do you not remember the ruckus over her "obliterate Iran" comments during the primaries?

Very very poor choice. That is not change.

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By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 14th 2008 at 11:37 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:37 am EST)

I agree Scott!

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By End The War Nov 14th 2008 at 1:12 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:12 pm EST)

Gov Bill Richardson - Not enough gravitas for my tastes????

U.S. Senate Senator
U.S. Energy Secretary - Unanimously confirmed
Cut waste and created further accountability at the Dept of Energy
Two-thirds of his appointments went to women and minorities
Ambassador to the U.N.
Nominated 5 times for the Noble Peace Prize
Served as a special envoy on many sensitive international missions.
Successfully won the release of hostages, American servicemen, and prisoners in North Korea, Iraq, and Cuba. also secured the release of an Albuquerque resident who was kept hostage in Sudan.
Supported by Democrats, Republicans and Independents
Became NM Governor - Reelected by 69% of voters
Improve education, cut taxes, built a high-wage economy
Champions Environmental causes
Cut taxes for working families and raising the minimum wage
Balanced budget and the highest reserves in state history
Unemployment rate that is the lowest in state history
NM most ethnically diverse in the country.
National leader in job growth and economic momentum
Chairman of the Democratic Governor's Association
Raised more than $28 million for gubernatorial candidates
Taught courses on government at New Mexico State Univ, Harvard Univs Kennedy School of Government and the United World College
His career is in public service, academia and the private sector
Received BA from Tufts and a MA from Tuft's Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy in 1971.
Chair of Freedom House, a private, non-partisan organization that promotes democracy worldwide
Can bring in the Hispanic and Latino voters
Speaks Spanish
Was one of the first big Democrats to endorse Barrack

from:
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By Sariti Nov 14th 2008 at 8:11 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:11 am EST)

FOR ALMOST TWO YEARS NOW,WE DEVOTED TIME AND MONEYBECAUSE WE TRUSTED OUR PRESIDENT-ELECT'S VISION OF CHANGE AND FRESH START OF AMERICA'S PROMISE AND NEW KIND OF POLITICS.

HE WON AND WE WON

HILLARY CLINTON'S CHOICE FOR SECRETARY OF STATE
WILL NEGATE EVERYTHING:
-IT IS NOT CHANGE
-FOREIGN POLICY OF PRE-EMPTIVE WARS& NO DIPLOMACY
-BILL CLINTON & HIS FOREIGN MONEY INTEREST
-SHE TRASHED HIM (EVEN HIS LIFE AS SHE INVOKED JFK'S ASSASINATION) AND USED RACIAL RMKS
-THIS CHOICE WILL SIGNAL THAT HE IS,AS SHE PUT IT "NAIVE" AND SHE "THE EXPERT" IS SOUGHT AFTER
-LOSS OF ALL THE MID-WESTERN STATES THAT VOTED FOR HIM
-LOSS OF TRUST BETWEEN US AND PRESIDENT-ELECT
PLEASE PRESIDENT OBAMA! DO NOT BREAK OUR HEART

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By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 14th 2008 at 10:55 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:55 am EST)

I agree Sara!!

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By CHELSEA Nov 14th 2008 at 7:49 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 7:49 pm EST)

Bill Richardson would make a great SOS, Clinton would make a great SOH&HS. This is not about personal attacks.

Thank you for the info on Richardson!!!!

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By JonnieRae Nov 14th 2008 at 11:58 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:58 pm EST)

Yes, End the War. Richardson, Richardson, Richardson.He has the education for it (Fletcher School of Diplomacy) and the experience for it, and people like him. This is important in diplomatic work. His Presidential race is inconsequential in this decision. Richardson. He's right and the Latinos expect it. They turned out for BO...gave him the West. Hilary is not qualified. in her GE campaigning she was doing herself as much good as BO. She had to rehabilitate her image and Bill too. Many think her seat in NY will not be so easy to win this time. The campaigning for BO was in her interest. I hate her positions on foreign policy. I can't imagine her "taking orders" from BO. I can't imagine Bill Clinton keeping his mouth shut. I can't imagine anything good coming out of this. And I know Barack puts the good of the country first. So I don't get the leak of this info. He has to give it to her now, I guess.

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By JonnieRae Nov 15th 2008 at 12:07 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:07 am EST)

Yes, End the War. Richardson, Richardson, Richardson.He has the education for it (Fletcher School of Diplomacy) and the experience for it, and people like him. This is important in diplomatic work. His Presidential race is inconsequential in this decision. Richardson. He's right and the Latinos expect it. They turned out for BO...gave him the West. Hilary is not qualified. in her GE campaigning she was doing herself as much good as BO. She had to rehabilitate her image and Bill too. Many think her seat in NY will not be so easy to win this time. The campaigning for BO was in her interest. I hate her positions on foreign policy. I can't imagine her "taking orders" from BO. I can't imagine Bill Clinton keeping his mouth shut. I can't imagine anything good coming out of this. And I know Barack puts the good of the country first. So I don't get the leak of this info. He has to give it to her now, I guess.

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By Sariti Nov 14th 2008 at 8:14 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:14 am EST)

FOR ALMOST TWO YEARS NOW,WE DEVOTED TIME AND MONEYBECAUSE WE TRUSTED OUR PRESIDENT-ELECT'S VISION OF CHANGE AND FRESH START OF AMERICA'S PROMISE AND NEW KIND OF POLITICS.

HE WON AND WE WON

HILLARY CLINTON'S CHOICE FOR SECRETARY OF STATE
WILL NEGATE EVERYTHING:
-IT IS NOT CHANGE
-FOREIGN POLICY OF PRE-EMPTIVE WARS& NO DIPLOMACY
-BILL CLINTON & HIS FOREIGN MONEY INTEREST
-SHE TRASHED HIM (EVEN HIS LIFE AS SHE INVOKED JFK'S ASSASINATION) AND USED RACIAL RMKS
-THIS CHOICE WILL SIGNAL THAT HE IS,AS SHE PUT IT "NAIVE" AND SHE "THE EXPERT" IS SOUGHT AFTER
-LOSS OF ALL THE MID-WESTERN STATES THAT VOTED FOR HIM
-LOSS OF TRUST BETWEEN US AND PRESIDENT-ELECT
PLEASE PRESIDENT OBAMA! DO NOT BREAK OUR HEART

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By ♥ Tanya ♥ Nov 14th 2008 at 10:54 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:54 am EST)

She needs to go through Confirmation Hearings by Congress if selected. Let's just wait and see what happens.

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By CHELSEA Nov 14th 2008 at 7:58 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 7:58 pm EST)

Though Hillary's behavior disgusted me during the primaries, I have forgiven her.
My being agaisnt her for SOS is not personal. She voted for GWB's war and has been in lock step with him on foreign policy--this is what we don't need. There will be other places for Mrs. Clinton--such as in health care reform and the like--this is her strong suit--NOT WORLD AFFAIRS.
Yes, we want diversity--include Hagel.

The world is watching--we want a new administration with the diplomacy first--war last mentality that is why we need a man like Richardson for the job. No more shoot first ask questions later Bush, McCain and yes, Clinton mentality. She supported Bush--that is why she lost the nomination, had it not been for her support of Bush, she would have won.
Barack Obama won me over with his different mindset of the Bush Doctrine.

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By ladyof wisdom Nov 14th 2008 at 1:17 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:17 pm EST)

I agree hrc is not the best choice for sos. I believe they are trying to force his hand. It is so clinton like to leak this information to the press for personal. I still believe obama would've have won w/o the clinton's. they only lobbyist obama should be concern about pleasing are the millions of voters who voted for him. The clinton's time is over the people have spoken they don't won't their kind of politics anymore. You cannot go back and forward at the same time. If he chooses someone new we the voters will stand with him. we know that every decision he makes will not be perfect. He told us this election was about us and the majority of us don't want hrc as sos.

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By ladyof wisdom Nov 14th 2008 at 1:19 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:19 pm EST)

I agree hrc is not the best choice for sos. I believe they are trying to force his hand. It is so clinton like to leak this information to the press for personal. I still believe obama would've have won w/o the clinton's. they only lobbyist obama should be concern about pleasing are the millions of voters who voted for him. The clinton's time is over the people have spoken they don't won't their kind of politics anymore. You cannot go back and forward at the same time. If he chooses someone new we the voters will stand with him. we know that every decision he makes will not be perfect. He told us this election was about us and the majority of us don't want hrc as sos.

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By ladyof wisdom Nov 14th 2008 at 1:20 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:20 pm EST)

I agree hrc is not the best choice for sos. I believe they are trying to force his hand. It is so clinton like to leak this information to the press for personal. I still believe obama would've have won w/o the clinton's. they only lobbyist obama should be concern about pleasing are the millions of voters who voted for him. The clinton's time is over the people have spoken they don't won't their kind of politics anymore. You cannot go back and forward at the same time. If he chooses someone new we the voters will stand with him. we know that every decision he makes will not be perfect. He told us this election was about us and the majority of us don't want hrc as sos.

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By ladyof wisdom Nov 14th 2008 at 1:22 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:22 pm EST)

I agree hrc is not the best choice for sos. I believe they are trying to force his hand. It is so clinton like to leak this information to the press for personal. I still believe obama would've have won w/o the clinton's. they only lobbyist obama should be concern about pleasing are the millions of voters who voted for him. The clinton's time is over the people have spoken they don't won't their kind of politics anymore. You cannot go back and forward at the same time. If he chooses someone new we the voters will stand with him. we know that every decision he makes will not be perfect. He told us this election was about us and the majority of us don't want hrc as sos.

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By ladyof wisdom Nov 14th 2008 at 1:24 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:24 pm EST)

I agree hrc is not the best choice for sos. I believe they are trying to force his hand. It is so clinton like to leak this information to the press for personal. I still believe obama would've have won w/o the clinton's. they only lobbyist obama should be concern about pleasing are the millions of voters who voted for him. The clinton's time is over the people have spoken they don't won't their kind of politics anymore. You cannot go back and forward at the same time. If he chooses someone new we the voters will stand with him. we know that every decision he makes will not be perfect. He told us this election was about us and the majority of us don't want hrc as sos.

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By ladyof wisdom Nov 14th 2008 at 1:27 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:27 pm EST)

I agree hrc is not the best choice for sos. I believe they are trying to force his hand. It is so clinton like to leak this information to the press for personal. I still believe obama would've have won w/o the clinton's. they only lobbyist obama should be concern about pleasing are the millions of voters who voted for him. The clinton's time is over the people have spoken they don't won't their kind of politics anymore. You cannot go back and forward at the same time. If he chooses someone new we the voters will stand with him. we know that every decision he makes will not be perfect. He told us this election was about us and the majority of us don't want hrc as sos.

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By LaShanda (GRAB A MOP!) Nov 14th 2008 at 12:24 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:24 am EST)

Oh why, Oh why do we let the MSM play with our heads like this!!!??

Don't you see what they are trying to do, they want to start a democratic party fight. They want to pit us against each other again.

Please don't buy into this crap. Please.

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By Suzanne from CT Nov 14th 2008 at 12:28 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:28 am EST)

Thanks, LaShanda, you're absolutely right.
We won't buy into this crap. :)
We stay united.

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By Dinerlee Nov 14th 2008 at 12:38 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:38 am EST)

I think you're right--it doesn't make sense that they would leak this.
Do you think people who WANT the jobs are doing fake leaks?

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By Lucy Hussein Nov 14th 2008 at 2:16 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:16 am EST)

Okay, you guys are awesome. Here I was getting all riled up about this rumor that news outlets have been making a huge deal of. All I could think is, this isn't like the Obama team...they wouldn't release this to either start infighting or get up the hopes of the still-disgruntled anti-Obama Hillary supporters only to make them more put off about what they think she 'deserves.' Already I've seen little comment wars between Hillary haters (which I am not) and Hillary lovers (which I also am not). It's an unwelcome blast from the not-so-long-ago past. And here I was, starting to like her again only to be reminded of her lack of regard for Barack, her meetings at the convention about possibly running against him again, the shadow of Bill...I just don't want to think about the possibility of her holding such a high-power position. All I can think of is Salmon Chase, Lincoln's Sec of Treasury. Lincoln basically hired all his opponents, and most of them in the end became his most ardent supporters, with the exception of Chase, who was forever plotting to take the presidency for himself. I know Barack is 'obsessed' with this 'Team of Rivals' thing that Lincoln worked, but history proves that keeping your rivals close to you doesn't always turn out in your favor. Hillary is a great senator. I hope she continues her current job.

But you're all right. This is still in mere rumor category. Sometimes I forget that the press is a business fueled by provocative news bites--not a news service employed to dutifully serve the news when told. STILL. If this is an unfounded rumor, I'm pretty upset that this would have leaked. I guess they're still not too good at Capitol Hill Tupperware maintenance (i.e. Rahm getting leaked). But really, I just don't even want to think about

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By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 14th 2008 at 12:28 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:28 am EST)

I agree Pamela! She is not a good choice!

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By Paula from Appalachia eastern Kentucky Nov 14th 2008 at 12:33 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:33 am EST)

well, just me thinking this, but the campaign has been leak-proof all along so my thought is that these recent "leaks" are just people not associated with Obama-Biden. Rather, it's just some sort of nether-people trying to make news.

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By ◎Desert Dove Dan◎ Nov 14th 2008 at 12:42 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:42 am EST)

Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding! We've got a winner folks!

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By Paula from Appalachia eastern Kentucky Nov 14th 2008 at 12:53 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:53 am EST)

(((big hug))) Dan!
We Piecemakers for Obama are ALWAYS winners, lol!
Did you get my photo for the new improved quilters video?

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By ◎Desert Dove Dan◎ Nov 14th 2008 at 1:17 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:17 am EST)

I only have the one photo of you that I used in both of the quilt videos. Do you have another one? If not, can I use the one I have for the bloggers video?

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By Paula from Appalachia eastern Kentucky Nov 14th 2008 at 1:24 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:24 am EST)

Sending you one now before i head off to bed!

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By Lace; Yes We Did Nov 14th 2008 at 1:21 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:21 am EST)

:)

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By LaShanda (GRAB A MOP!) Nov 14th 2008 at 12:48 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:48 am EST)

Thank you!!!! Geesh, I feel like I need a bull-horn for all these liberal blogs. And Huffingtonpost has turned into nothing but an online MSM.

Obama is laying low and they have nothing to report right now. These people are not advisers, they don't have no real insight. So they make up these stories and the press runs with it like it's gospel.

What did OUR man say, "there is a lot of disinformation out there." Enough said.

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By Paula from Appalachia eastern Kentucky Nov 14th 2008 at 12:54 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:54 am EST)

thank you LaShanda!
I was feeling all alone and screaming at MSM and HuffPo as well (and I'm a HuffPo blogger!!!!!)

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By Straighttalker Nov 14th 2008 at 12:36 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:36 am EST)

I agree, too. This is not the change we voted for.
Chuck Hagel would be the best Secty. of State, and Gen. Wesley Clarke the best Secty. of Defence.

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By LaShanda (GRAB A MOP!) Nov 14th 2008 at 12:46 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:46 am EST)

Let's have some straight talk. Why are you in validating anything from MSM?

You clearly voted for change, meaning you know that our President-elect runs a tight ship.

Do you really see him anchoring a leaky boat like we've seen all week.

Secondly, every time I hear someone say they voted for change, I think they don't really know what Obama meant by change.

And from what I've seen so far, he's given us nothing but change. Tight lobbying rules for transition, change.gov (opening the doors of government back the people).

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By Wanda from Valencia, CA Nov 14th 2008 at 1:02 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:02 am EST)

Chuck Hagel would be a fantastic Secretary of State. It would also show that Obama was reaching across the isle.

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By Obama Grandmama Nov 14th 2008 at 2:31 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:31 am EST)

CHANGE-
I agree with you La Shanda in that I have been thinking that "change" represents different things to each person. I've heard some people make negative remarks because Obama has picked people to advise him that have experience and political history, as if that does not mean change. These people equate change with outsider, inexperienced people. Barack has said he wants "change" in how government is run, not necessarily change in whom is in government. He believes in being surrounded by experts not yes people.
Like Lincoln and his Team of Rivals Barack wants to hear as many points of view as possible before he makes his decisions. He has said the Commander-In-Chief sets the mission. His desire for change in lobbyists'influence has already begun. Advisors chosen by Obama will need to follow his lead.
BO has said he is imperfect and will make mistakes, but he will listen to us. Michelle has said that his strength is in realizing when he doesn't know something and seeking answers from experts. I have chosen to support President-Elect Barack Hussein Obama for many reasons and know he cannot fix everything that is wrong. I support him in his effort and judgment to help us as best he can. I hope you will too.

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By Victoria Nov 14th 2008 at 7:34 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 7:34 am EST)

Hillary, I want you to read LaShanda of the "don't let the MSM divide us" previous post and her current reference to your potential appointment as nothing more than an attempt by Obama to "anchor his leaky boat." Nuff said.

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By LaShanda (GRAB A MOP!) Nov 14th 2008 at 9:10 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 9:10 am EST)

Clearly you are one of those many children that Bush left behind.

Try learning to read!

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By Ari Nov 14th 2008 at 12:53 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:53 am EST)

Now all of a sudden... you know what's good for the new administration... I thought you hired someone you trusted to make decisions for you... You don't have all the inside informations... so just sit back and wait for the President Elect to make a decision... Relax, everything will be fine!

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By Nov. 5th 2008 "Mission Accomplished," Ben from Monroe, NY HAPPY ELECTION DAY!!!! Nov 14th 2008 at 1:45 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:45 am EST)

A = Anybody

B = But

C = Clinton

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By Stephen C. Rose in NYC Nov 14th 2008 at 6:55 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 6:55 am EST)

McCain?
Palin?

Let Andrea have her fun. It is all speculation.

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By BIGO Nov 14th 2008 at 6:56 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 6:56 am EST)

I am so proud of your comment. You took the words right out of my mouth. If you trust someone, and you hire them to do a job; why question their every decision or maybe non-decision. Come on family, let's have some faith in our president. We trust that he will make the right choices in order to help him do this very difficult job of governing.

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By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 14th 2008 at 11:05 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:05 am EST)

Amen!!!

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By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 14th 2008 at 10:56 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:56 am EST)

I hear you Ismat!

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By Eric from Oklahoma City, OK Nov 14th 2008 at 2:13 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:13 am EST)

We can't turn back.

Check out the following link for a blog that is all about Obama.

Link

ObamaEqualsChange.com

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By Charles from New York Nov 14th 2008 at 2:20 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:20 am EST)

James, I couldn't agree more.

And, for the other participants on this blog, please, please, remember that Barack has told us repeatedly to stay vigilant and to express our opinions. Let me quote from something Barack himself said, back in 2007: "You can elect a president who says all the right things, but if the American people aren't energized and mobilized to put pressure and hold our government officials accountable, then the lobbyists and the special interests will intervene, they will block, they will parry and they will prevent the kind of change that is needed."

This is not only our right; it is our very solemn obligation.

Barack is not all-knowing; he is not all wise. One of the unspoken premises of his decision to keep us organized and active is that he is imperfect and that we can serve, in part, as the canary in the coal mine if he should stray. We should not shirk that duty; we should embrace it.

Specifically, with regard to Hillary as Secretary of State, yes, there are signficant areas of disagreement with Obama, particularly on Iran, which, in and of themselves should give us pause. But there are larger over-arching reasons why she would just not work out. One of the most important is that her selection would send a mixed signal to the rest of the world: Does Barack want to turn the page on our Middle East policies? Does he want to engage with countries like Iran and build a new day? If so, people would ask whether his Secretary of State was really dedicated to the Obama vision. Hillary might actually be sincerely interested in assisting Obama; she might really be ready to adopt his agenda rather than her own when it comes to those issues. But people around the world could be excused if they found themselves wondering how seriously she was prepared to promote and support those policies. That, in of and of itself, constitutes a fatal distraction which probably is the most definitive argument I can think of as to why she simply is not what Barack needs at this time.

Health and Human Services? Sure. Attorney-General? Perhaps. But State is the one department where Hillary would find her own record, her own statements, standing in direct contradiction with the principles espoused by Obama. And that's a deal-killer.

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By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 14th 2008 at 10:57 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:57 am EST)

I agree Charles!!

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By Charles from New York Nov 14th 2008 at 11:13 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:13 am EST)

Thank you, Debbie.

One other point: On foreign policy Obama's administration needs to speak with a clear voice. It's one of those areas where you can't be both pro-life and pro-choice, as it were. Do you favor direct unconditional diplomacy with Iran or don't you? Do you favor direct diplomatic engagement with Venezuela? Or North Korea? Or Cuba? Or don't you? There's no squaring that circle.

And there are distinguished able leaders on both sides of those critical questions. With regard to the list that's floating out there for Secretary of State, John Kerry, Bill Richardson and Chuck Hagel basically are in agreement with Barack Obama on those questions. Hillary Clinton has not been in agreement. Neither, for that matter, is Richard Holbrooke, another Clintonista whose name has been floated as a possible Secretary of State. In fact, Holbrooke was one of those voices in the Kerry campaign who argued most vociferously AGAINST coming out against the Iraq war and for a date certain for withdrawal, as Arianna Huffington has so ably reported.

All of these people are worthy and serious and qualified leaders. But the slots they should occupy should fit the need. We need a serious approach to the enforcement of law and to the reform of health care. Hillary Clinton would be able to provide that with no problem. Richard Holbrooke would provide deep historical knowledge and proven ability which would be invaluable working in a deputy non-policy position. He would not be the right fit in a foreign policy position.

These are distinctions and subtleties which one needs to keep in mind. I'm sure Barack Obama is doing exactly that, but he needs to read our arguments and note the success or failure of them in debate, a sort of see-how-they-run exercise. I believe, to some extent, that is the purpose that is served by our discussion here. Never let it be said that such discussion, or indeed doubt, concerning possible decisions of our President-elect is inappropriate. On the contrary, I believe that may be a large part of the reason why the campaign has decided to keep this forum open.

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By Connie Obama (Not held hostage by polls or media) Nov 14th 2008 at 12:51 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:51 pm EST)

Attorney General? How can you be AG when you are still embroiled in your own fraud case which should have resumed on NOv 5th?

People, get up to speed and this will help you seperate fact from fiction when these leaks come. The media cannot possibly be this dumb or unaware of the situations, so I assume they keep quiet so they can stir the pot for ratings.

An example: Barack never overlooked Hillary for VP. She refused to be vetted and Bill had always said he would not disclose his list of donors! Now, wouldn't that be important to consider for SOS or Supreme Ct Justice?

Andrea Mitchell words aren't gospel! She was famous for "leaking" all things Hillary during and after the primary. She also said right on the air once that she did not like Barack!

It'a all rumors until we hear it from Barack!!!!

Thanks Lashanda for your calm, insightful post upthread.

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By Victoria Nov 14th 2008 at 3:31 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 3:31 pm EST)

According to Hillary and Barack, she simply wasn't vetted. She was not asked for a single piece of information. That said, Hillary and Bill Clinton are probably the most "vetted" people on this planet.

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By Connie Obama (Not held hostage by polls or media) Nov 14th 2008 at 8:15 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:15 pm EST)

Victoria, Victoria, Victoria, Hillary wasn't vetted because she REFUSED to be vetted. Also, Bill said throughout the primary that he would NOT release his list of library donors, some of whom are foreign countries.

You clearly do not have the facts or refuse to acknowledge them. And no, the media has NOT vetted them. If you think they have tell me when will Judge Munoz resume their trial in LA?

Again, facts.

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By Derrek from Plainfield, NJ Nov 14th 2008 at 2:24 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:24 am EST)

I agree, Hillary is an intersting choice, is Obama straying away from his original stand, or is there pressure from the democractic party.

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By Unknown user Nov 14th 2008 at 3:54 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 3:54 am EST)

my feet is tired but my soul is rested - the rest is history

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By Stephen C. Rose in NYC Nov 14th 2008 at 6:48 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 6:48 am EST)

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By Cheryl from Boston Feels the Gift Nov 14th 2008 at 8:39 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:39 am EST)

Phew!

So glad to see all of our BO-PEEPS Fired Up and Telling OUR BO HOW WE SEE IT! Good for US!

Whatever the "scheme" launched by the "leak", I dare say BO wants to HEAR from US! That is how I see the "leak"--what do the BO-PEEPS have to say about the possibility--as well I do believe it is to give "face" to Hill.

However, Dear President-Elect Obama DO Hear our collective Voices! NO to Hillary for Sec of State--The reasons are compound and obvious!

NO to Lieberman! Lieberman needs to be punished and not to mention he sucks at his post and did NOTHING--and could be dangerous for you if he keeps it (I get keeping enemies close...but no one wants him on either side! So OUT he goes. He can NEVER be trusted, besides Connecticut will oust him next time around....! We have a few Republicans like Cynthia Snow to join us on important issues to clinch that 60! Let's trust in the bi-partisan government you want to grab and we may just end up getting you a second term because of it!

Keep posting BO-Peeps! Our Barack does want to hear from us. I may not be succinct this morning but my answer is an emphatic NO to Hillary as Sec. of State and NO to keep Lieberman!

We will take root in our process yet!
Besitos y Paz,
Cheryl in Boston

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By Stephen C. Rose in NYC Nov 14th 2008 at 9:01 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 9:01 am EST)

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By Stephen C. Rose in NYC Nov 14th 2008 at 10:17 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:17 am EST)

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By Yvonne--- for World Peace Nov 14th 2008 at 10:43 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:43 am EST)

“I’m a practical-minded guy. And, you know, one of my heroes is Abraham Lincoln. And a while back there was a wonderful book written by Doris Kearns Goodwin called ‘Team of Rivals.” Lincoln basically pulled in all the people who had been running against him into his Cabinet because whatever personal feelings there were, the issue was how can we get this country through this time of crisis. And I think that has to be the approach that one takes, whether it’s vice president or Cabinet, whoever.”– Barack Obama

(I’m headed to Amazon to get this book. Should be an interesting read.)

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By ♥ Tanya ♥ Nov 14th 2008 at 11:00 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:00 am EST)

:o)

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By ladyof wisdom Nov 14th 2008 at 2:05 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:05 pm EST)

look what happen to lincoln.

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By Rhonda for Barack Obama in Montgomery, Alabama Nov 14th 2008 at 11:22 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:22 am EST)

I agree with you James, Hillary Clinton will NOT be a good Choice for Secretary of State. NO!! NO!! NO!! Hillary is more in line with Republican War policies.

There has not been a War that Hillary was against. She voted for the Bush Doctrine to use force against IRAN. She voted for the Iraq War. I do not believe that Hillary knows that much about foreign policy. I hope that Barack does NOT choose her.

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By Anne in London Nov 14th 2008 at 1:52 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:52 pm EST)

I am really worried about the hawkishness of the new administration. As a Kurdish friend of mine said the other day: ' a great man, a very intelligent man ... but the same old imperialist mentality' -

We worked for Change, we organised for Change, we voted for Change ...

there is, so far, too much of the Same Old Faces ...

everyone expects a bit of disappointment, when hopes are raised so high - but please ...

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By CHELSEA Nov 14th 2008 at 7:22 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 7:22 pm EST)

I agree with you.
It's one thing for Obama to pick those who have different ideas than his--but this is too "Bush-like" for me. I would even rather see a republican given this job who opposed the war.
I say this and part of me likes Hillary-- this is not a personality issue, but what I feel is a continuation of the Bush Doctrine--NO WAY!

If Clinton must be in the Admininstration--OK, appoint her Sec. of Human Services--at least she is qualified for this position.
PLEASE consider Gov. Bill Richardson--he would be more effective in the Middle East and also he could have a positive impact on Latin American countries--dealing with Chavez, etc.

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By CHELSEA Nov 14th 2008 at 7:09 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 7:09 pm EST)

I agree with you 100%.
Bill Richardson is CHANGE. Gov. Richardson has the temperment for this job and the experience--Clinton does not.
Obama spoke of changing the "mindset" that got us into GWB's war during the campaign--what signal is he sending by appointing Clinton?
What about her "I will obliterate Iran" statement? Is that not as bad or worse than McCain's "Bomb, Bomb, Bomb, Bomb, Iran?"
After 8 years of GWB, I want no such mentality in dealing with world issues, that's more of the SAME.

I love Obama and Joe, but this is a BAD MOVE.

Hillary Clinton does have political/intellectual talent that would be better served as Sec.of Health and Human Service capacity--or Attorney General--NOT SEC. OF STATE!!!!
I will be very upset if she is chosen for this position. My support may not be here anymore.

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By The old man and the sea ... Nov 14th 2008 at 8:18 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:18 pm EST)

Come on President Elect ... you are the main man ... the Futue President of the USA ....

Show your strength and guts ... the same strength and guts that got you this far ...

The only reason that Hillary wants to be Secretary of State ... under her conditions and terms .... lol lol lol lol .... is that Teddy Kennedy has taken the wind out of her sails regarding Health Care ...

Mr. Future President ... your home page implies ... don't look back ... look forward ... picking a Clinton is looking back ... at the very least be your own person ... we want change ... the Clintons are out for now ... they were the past ... the Obamas are the now and the future .... the United States is very fortunate ... pick another person for Secretary of State ... please please please ..

Sincerely ... Gordon

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By Paul from Groves, TX Nov 17th 2008 at 8:05 pm EST (Updated Nov 17th 2008 at 8:05 pm EST)

Billary is not acceptable for so many reasons it hard to start. Forget about how immoral the clintons are, what about picking someone with some foreign experience besides "coming under sniper fire in Bosnia". I had positive wishes for Obama, but if he picks Billary for SOS, I will be giving support to anyone against him. I am starting to doubt his judgment just for considering her. Please listen to you inner voice for good Barack & please turn away from evil.

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By Carl from Ukiah, CA Nov 17th 2008 at 9:27 pm EST (Updated Nov 17th 2008 at 9:27 pm EST)

I agree on that totally. I voted for Barack, but am under only the tiniest illusion that change will be effective. This for the reasons you stated, as well as his good wishes to traitor Lieberman. Joe has given us reason to line him up with the rest of the Bush gang when (if) change comes to town. Not holding my breath on that one. I will not ever vote Democrat (or Repug) again if this is yet another betrayal. I have betrayal fatigue. If these Dems do not perform for CHANGE I will not ever stop encouraging everyone to work against them as hard as we can starting with Pelosi and her ilk.

The "change" that people I know want is a return to Constitutional law, which includes accountability for the outragous and ongoing crimes of the Bush gang. Only this, along with truth and reconciliation for what has been happening for at least the last 8 years, will steer us in the correct direction. Without that it's just more useless rhetoric.

The Democrats have no excuses now, and packing the house with people who put Israel's lawless desires above our law is not encouraging.

My hope is that Obama's "political capitol" is used to further our ideals and is not squandered on wickedness like Bush's.

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By . Nov 14th 2008 at 12:13 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:13 am EST)

:)

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By Marcia--One who believes in Dreams! Nov 14th 2008 at 8:11 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:11 am EST)

Can someone tell me what's up with the so-called "bundlers" and the transition team? I'm just a little confused and don't have time to read it all...off to work! Thanks and have a great day all!!

Trusting the PE | Report to Admin

By Jayzee Nov 14th 2008 at 12:24 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:24 am EST)

Hi Fellow Bloggers,
Close to the top! YEAH!

Whenever I've had a concern about what the President Elect is about to do- I wait and see and ultimately- he has demonstrated an ability to make the best possible decision at every avenue.

We're stressing over what the Pundits are putting out. I'll believe it - when it's announced by our team.

Jayzee- not so quick to criticize

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By Suzanne from CT Nov 14th 2008 at 12:27 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:27 am EST)

Thanks, Jay.
I second that.
:)

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By ♥ dreamweaver "Grab A Mop" ♥ aka Vicki from Iowa Nov 14th 2008 at 12:32 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:32 am EST)

Thanks Jay
I third that.

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By Lace; Yes We Did Nov 14th 2008 at 1:21 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:21 am EST)

fourth

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By MR TODD C. TOURE Nov 14th 2008 at 12:27 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:27 pm EST)

FIFTH AND FOREMOST GENIUS HAS A WAY OF SHOWING BIG AT BIG TIMES-THIS DEFINETLY ONE OF THEM-REMEMBER HE ULTIMATELY RUNS THE SHIP.

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By MR TODD C. TOURE Nov 14th 2008 at 12:28 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:28 pm EST)

FIFTH AND FOREMOST GENIUS HAS A WAY OF SHOWING BIG AT BIG TIMES-THIS DEFINETLY ONE OF THEM-REMEMBER HE ULTIMATELY RUNS THE SHIP.

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By MR TODD C. TOURE Nov 14th 2008 at 12:32 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:32 pm EST)

FIFTH AND FOREMOST GENIUS HAS A WAY OF SHOWING BIG AT BIG TIMES-THIS DEFINETLY ONE OF THEM-REMEMBER HE ULTIMATELY RUNS THE SHIP.

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By Suzanne from CT Nov 14th 2008 at 1:37 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:37 pm EST)

Caps Lock stuck again? ;)
Thanks for your support and trust in Obama anyhow :)

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By CHELSEA Nov 15th 2008 at 12:31 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:31 am EST)

Once they announce it, it's too late.

God Bless President-Elect Obama | Report to Admin

By ShellySong♫ Live Life To The Fullest♫ Nov 14th 2008 at 12:35 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:35 am EST)

He's inheriting a political mess. MSM, pundits, opposition and even some who say they support him are second, third and fourth guessing what he's going to do; he hasn't even taken the oath of office yet. He said he wasn't perfect, he said that there would be mistakes - true because he's a human being.

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By ♥ dreamweaver "Grab A Mop" ♥ aka Vicki from Iowa Nov 14th 2008 at 12:39 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:39 am EST)

Thanks for your insight Michelle. A voice of reason is what we need.

Hugs, Vicki

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By ShellySong♫ Live Life To The Fullest♫ Nov 14th 2008 at 12:51 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:51 am EST)

Hugs back at you!!!

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By Czarina Vero - who loves her new President - OBAMA!!!!! Nov 14th 2008 at 12:53 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:53 am EST)

Michelle, it's not just a political mess, its a real-deal governing mess as well. I just read this article, and we all should - it's a nice reminder that Obama is only HUMAN. Link

I was criticizing, questioning, and complaining about this news report earlier, but I've let it go. There is no need to go on and on and on complaining and criticizing and lamenting this scoop courtesy of Andrea Mitchell.

We need to remember that faced with temptations to slash and burn, to go the easy route and bow down to the pressure to pick other folks as a VP, to change who he was and to change his message - Obama stayed consistent and kept us in mind. He's not only concerned with winning, he's concerned with governing. If he believes certain players will work in his administration, then I have to believe he knows better than me.

So, I trust my President-to-be. Despite any shortcoming he may have, I believe that he wants the best for our country. I may not like some of his choices. I may not understand the hows and the whys of his decisions. But I do understand that PE Obama is MY CHOICE and until he gives me reason not to, I will continue to trust him. In fact, we really don't have much of a choice at this point - he's our President.

So rather than negativity and unnecessary criticizing, we should continue to pray, hope, wish, send positive vibes - do whatever - to lift him up and give him clarity and strength.

On that note, good night.

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By ShellySong♫ Live Life To The Fullest♫ Nov 14th 2008 at 1:12 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:12 am EST)

Thanks for sharing the article. It's a reminder of sacrifice and just a glimspe of the many sacrifices one has to make as POTUS when you have his type of character. I believe he loves his family and our country and he is the best person for the tasks that lie ahead.

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By Lucy Hussein Nov 14th 2008 at 2:34 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:34 am EST)

Yes, thanks for the link. I have been thinking about how hard it must be emotionally to go from being with 'normal' people every day in all these residential places and having your life revolve around the average citizen....to suddenly dropping out of the public eye surrounded with security and powerful people vying for your attention.

I remember back in 2000, these people started a huge prayer network for Pres. Bush. I did not join their efforts since the perspective was that of supporting his policies, but I did join them in prayer for the president and perhaps that''s why I still bear no ill will toward him in spite of my strong opposition to many of his policies and decisions. The bottom line: our soon-to-be president and his family and admin. needs our prayers--I hope we can outdo the the last prayer network for the president.

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By Connie Obama (Not held hostage by polls or media) Nov 14th 2008 at 1:01 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:01 pm EST)

Thanks, Vero. Very calm and sensible post.

***************Reminder******* ***********

Remember the media reads this blog EVERYDAY and loves to report how Barack's supporters are criticizing him. (They have never repeated any of the factual stuff posted here). They love to use us to attack Barack's support, so please let's disagree without being disagreeable.

And we can be careful in how we voice our opinions while still showing our support for Barack. I will heed my own advice. No need to give them weapons to use against our new POTUS; he has enough enemies already.

Peace.

Thanks.

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By ShellySong♫ Live Life To The Fullest♫ Nov 14th 2008 at 1:58 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:58 pm EST)

Agreed Connie. If the MSM spent as much time and energy conducting investigative reporting on the $700B bailout issues, what would the chances be that we'd get some specific, qualitative answers as to what's really going on.

Midnight Madness Respite | Report to Admin

By ◎Desert Dove Dan◎ Nov 14th 2008 at 12:39 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:39 am EST)

If Everyone Cared

Link

Peace & Love

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By Dinerlee Nov 14th 2008 at 12:48 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:48 am EST)

Ahhhhhh-Thanks so much, I really needed that! It was beautiful.

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By Obamaismyguy! Nov 14th 2008 at 1:50 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:50 am EST)

Dan - You have inspired all of us throughout this campaign. I've been hoping that if Barack won, you would do one of your amazing videos using "Only in America" showing shots and video from the beginning of his campaign to his victory speech on Nov. 4th. Have you done that song yet, or do you know of anyone who has?

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By ◎Desert Dove Dan◎ Nov 14th 2008 at 8:59 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:59 am EST)

I actually did this one just 3 weeks ago. It does have footage from the convention in Denver among other little surprises.

Link

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By NO DRAMA, JUST OBAMA on bainbridge island WA Nov 14th 2008 at 12:40 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:40 am EST)

Thank you CJ for the open thread!

That last one got totally infested.

I am so glad you all are still here and still arguing passionately! I love my Obama family!

Lieberman | Report to Admin

By Straighttalker Nov 14th 2008 at 12:43 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:43 am EST)

Lie berman says that if he is ousted from his post, it will show that people are putting politics above national security. Is he the guardian angel of our national security? His statement is an echo of the innuendos and 'nobody else but me' strains of the McCain campaign. I am very disappointed by Barack's support of Lie bermann's status quo.

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By Suzanne from CT Nov 14th 2008 at 12:50 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:50 am EST)

Barack Obama does not support Lieberman's status quo.
The Democrats in the Senate will decide about Lieberman's fate. It's the job of the Democrates in the Senate to deal with this, not Obama's. If he's still in the senate when the Democrats vote on Lieberman, he'll have a vote. Otherwise it's not his business. He is acting exactly the way a president elect should act.

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By debbier Nov 14th 2008 at 12:55 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:55 am EST)

Obama is much more pragmatic than I am and I consider myself as openminded. That said, I would let Lieberman go if that's what he wants. I could care less whether he keeps his chairmanship but I have a serious problem with him trying to browbeat his way into keeping his chairmanship. A more conciliatory attitude would need to be offered before I would consider him.

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By Dinerlee Nov 14th 2008 at 12:56 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:56 am EST)

I hope the caucus will take care of his chairmanship next week just for making such extortionate threats--if I don't get to be chairmanship, watch out. All ego and entitlement.

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By CHELSEA Nov 14th 2008 at 8:38 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:38 pm EST)

Joe The Judas should GO!
I am tired of politics being more important than security.
As though by keeping Judas in the Dem caucas is going to stop him from voting with the republicans......oh brother.....

Leaks and discipline | Report to Admin

By debbier Nov 14th 2008 at 12:50 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:50 am EST)

My concern since the election has not been who President-Elect Barack Obama has chosen for posts or cabinet members. I am concerned about all of these leaks coming from his camp. Is he surrounding himself with less disciplined people than he did with the campaign.

There were very few leaks during the primary or general election. I pray that he find out who the sources are now and get rid of them before it is too late. "Loose lips sink ships."

I prefer to hear officially who he is considering or has chosen. I am sick of the rumors, already.

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By Czarina Vero - who loves her new President - OBAMA!!!!! Nov 14th 2008 at 12:57 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:57 am EST)

It's a concern I share as well. My guess is that there are many new low level folks on board who are trying to cash in right now.

I think he will address this issue very quietly and things should settle down.

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By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 14th 2008 at 12:59 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:59 am EST)

I just hope the links are not true!

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By Obama Grandmama Nov 14th 2008 at 2:49 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:49 am EST)

I know Andrea Mitchell was covering Hillary's campaign in the Primaries. The Clinton campaign and the McCain campaign had a lot of leaks. I also remember when the Primary was over Barack had included some former Clinton supporters and at first had some leaks whereas he hadn't had any to speak of in the Primary. I was suspicious that the leaks came from the Clinton supporters since they were not used to keeping the lips zipped. It tightened up again though. I am again suspicious it could be the Clinton supporters on Obama's team now again leaking to Andrea who may be a really good friend of the leakers. It will be resolved.

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By Ari Nov 14th 2008 at 1:01 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:01 am EST)

There are no leaks. Until you hear it from the new administration, anything that out there is just pure speculation. There is an information void out there, whenever Sarah Palin alone cannot fill the void, speculations about the new administration ensue. So, don't believe everything you hear. None of it is true except when it come from someone working for the President Elect, not some anonymous source.

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By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 14th 2008 at 1:06 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:06 am EST)

I hope you are right Arigirl!

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By Robert from Brooklyn Nov 14th 2008 at 1:51 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:51 am EST)

I agree. These people are professionals. It's their job to keep you interested. Their ratings probably went up as a result of the current stories. Look at the last blog. It worked. I would be buying advertising space, right now, on all the major news outlets.

Everyone should Google Edward Bernays. He is the father of all this media crap. There is a 4 hour documentary on Google video called the Century of Self. Propaganda today works very well. I think many of you are intelligent people but I'm amazed at how easily the media guides your thoughts. I'm not immune but I'm very aware that all my thoughts and actions may not be my own. I don't mean that literally but propaganda works. We are still using some of Hitler's tactics today.

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By CHELSEA Nov 15th 2008 at 12:46 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:46 am EST)

Don't blame Andrea Mitchell, it's ALL over the news.
One can only hope it's not true.

My original premise for supporting Obama was his opposition to the war in Iraq--that's what got me tuned in and turned on. To place a pro Iraq war Sec. Of State in his administration sends the echo of change right out the window.
Those who voted for Bush's war are no better than him.
Clinton voted for this war without even reading the briefs.
She did it for poltical expediency to get support to look "tough."
She voted for George Bush's war, that is why I could not vote for her in the primary.
She is not about change on the international front nor does she have the experience that Gov. Bill Richardson has.
To restore our credibility in the world we need those who did not side with Bush.
Hillary Clinton can continue to work here at home.

Secretary of State | Report to Admin

By Earthman Nov 14th 2008 at 12:58 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:58 am EST)

If Obama should picks Hillary as Secretary of State it will be one of his biggest blunders and the downturn of a promising administration.

Colin Powell is my choice.

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By Czarina Vero - who loves her new President - OBAMA!!!!! Nov 14th 2008 at 1:05 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:05 am EST)

Then you should run for, and win, the Presidency. Then you can make that choice.

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By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 14th 2008 at 1:05 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:05 am EST)

I agree Robert. Not a good choice!

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By debbier Nov 14th 2008 at 1:07 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:07 am EST)

I seriously doubt if Powell would accept it. Clinton would not be my choice.

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By Earthman Nov 14th 2008 at 1:18 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:18 am EST)

Debbie how did you know my name was Robert?

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By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 14th 2008 at 1:23 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:23 am EST)

When you hit reply you name is next to By

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By Lace; Yes We Did Nov 14th 2008 at 1:23 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:23 am EST)

How did you know her name was Debbie and not debbier ;-)?

When you go to reply to someone's comment, you see their real first name below the comment-typing box. For example, try replying to my comment and look down some--you'll see my real name (though my real name is the same as my username, I admit)

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By yesterdaygone : they said this day would never come Nov 14th 2008 at 1:37 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:37 am EST)

if you don't like your name showing up, click on "my home" to go to your profile, then click on "edit profile" arrow, then the "manage your account" button, then delete your name and replace it with your nickname. then hit "submit." that keep your name from popping up in reply.

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By JonnieRae Nov 14th 2008 at 1:26 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:26 am EST)

Maybe it was said on the last blog, but people really have Clinton fatigue. With Hil comes Bill. And he likes to talk and talk and talk. And the media loves to cover him and cover him and cover him. So again, we have the drama. Bill will be sure to explain just how his wife's ideas are better than BO's or how HIS are. This has to be BO's presidency. He is the leader of the Party. Could he ever fire her? I am not even getting into their differing foreign policy views or her qualifications.

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By All being Nov 14th 2008 at 1:28 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:28 am EST)

Is Hillary going to stay in Senate as she always said?

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By Nov. 5th 2008 "Mission Accomplished," Ben from Monroe, NY HAPPY ELECTION DAY!!!! Nov 14th 2008 at 1:47 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:47 am EST)

A = Anybody

B = But

C = Clinton

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By All being Nov 14th 2008 at 1:54 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:54 am EST)

Hillary has difficulty to ask her 18 million supporters to help her pay off her debts. The best for her is to continuously support Presidednt-Elct Obama as a senator. Would she like to work in Universal Health Care?

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By Glory Hussein Nov 14th 2008 at 5:36 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 5:36 am EST)

Woh woh woh... I know that we all still remember everything that Hillary had said about Barack during the primary, but let's not live in the past, let's forget about the past... I think choosing Hillary would be a very smart move; she's smart, tough, and capable of handling the job... I'm rootin' for her, change doesn't jus' mean new people, it means new ideas... Barack's agenda would be in action no matter who the Secratary of state is, so let's jus' wait and accept whoever Barack chooses. I trust him to make a smart pick.

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By CHELSEA Nov 15th 2008 at 12:57 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:57 am EST)

Glory,
I have forgiven Hillary for throwing the kitchen sink during the primaries--this is NOT the issue, nor is it about issues of "new faces" because I will gladly take some Clinton people to help the economy. Why I am opposed to Hillary for SOS is her voting record with George Bush.
I have no problem with Clinton dealing with domestic issues--housing, human services, etc.
This is NOT about bitterness and the past--it is far too important for that.
Her voting record is in lock step with that of Bush when it comes to international affairs--THAT IS THE PROBLEM!

Interesting article | Report to Admin

By Czarina Vero - who loves her new President - OBAMA!!!!! Nov 14th 2008 at 1:02 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:02 am EST)

...this is a different take on this idea of Hillary as SOS.

Link

Doesn't sound like it's coming from the PE transition folks at all. They did this same crap during the VP nomination.

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By Gru - a skinny kid with a funny name Nov 14th 2008 at 1:12 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:12 am EST)

I think Hillary is just trying to get Palin out of the new cycle.

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By Obama Grandmama Nov 14th 2008 at 2:57 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:57 am EST)

I know I am sick of Palin being in the news 24/7 myself.

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By yesterdaygone : they said this day would never come Nov 14th 2008 at 1:21 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:21 am EST)

helen thomas not happy with the prospect of recycled clintonistas.

Link

i think she means rahm.

In this country with so many resources, we can not let people be so poor | Report to Admin

By yeffi Nov 14th 2008 at 1:14 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:14 am EST)

i've been in rural Nevada for about five weeks to help elect Barack Obama President. I randomly selected a canvass packet and headed out every afternoon. This time i headed to a section of town where there were old broken down tailor homes on tiny lots. We were often hitting the same homes looking for the 20 somethings who where usually working multiple jobs at odd hours and hard to find. As I climbed the stairs, the floor boards were broken. Grandmother was there with two younger children. The older two were out working. The inside looked not much bigger than a shoe box. How could all those people live in that tiny space? Outside, there was no grass, no flowers, just a lot of junk cars parked on the streets and between the trailers. By the time I had visited the 30 something homes in my packet, I was pretty upset. In this country, with so many resources, so much wealth, how is it we let our children grow up in such poverty. I hope Barack will bulldozer these homes and replace them with sound structures built in America by Americans. This is not who we are. We can do better.
yeffi
yeffi@yahoo.com

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By yesterdaygone : they said this day would never come Nov 14th 2008 at 1:30 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:30 am EST)

what if that jumbo bailout for wallstreet was really meant to hamstring barack from building and leaving behind a consequential legacy?

Sigh!! | Report to Admin

By Robert from Brooklyn Nov 14th 2008 at 1:18 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:18 am EST)

...... was reading the previous blog. Boy! You guys are CHerrrrippin already. Seems like Obama will have to out flank left, right and center. He'll make us proud in the end despite all the phony outrage. No one will take his shine. So, complain if you must but put those complaints into action. Organize your own groups. Change can come from the block.

Power to the people!

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By yesterdaygone : they said this day would never come Nov 14th 2008 at 1:57 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:57 am EST)

cherrrippin? i don't know this word.

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By Robert from Brooklyn Nov 14th 2008 at 2:05 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:05 am EST)

trippin ....... was sounding out the slang, literally ..... didn't work, sorry.

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By Bev for Pres Obama from Canada Nov 14th 2008 at 1:22 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:22 am EST)

The media needs something other than Palin to talk about as she is old news so they have hit on supposed leaks saying HRC is in the running for the SOS. HRC would have to complete a very detailed application and be vetted She wasn't willing to do this for the VP position I doubt that she will do it for this. There is also a possible conflict of interest re Bills work internationally. But even if Obama did offer her a position, she would have the position only as long as her performance met with Obama's approval. If she goofed up she could be fired. HRC would be fully aware of this and she does want to run for President in 8 years. Being fired and out of the Senate would not be a positive position from which to start her bid. But it maky serve Obama to have her in his cabinet where he can control and direct her rather than in the Senate where he will have little or no control and she could cause problems if she wanted to. This is just a leak or rumour and since the source or sources were not named I tend to think that they are not all that credible. Remember all the media speculation, rumours and leaks over wether or not HRC was being concidered for the VP spot right up until Biden was named. This is all just more of the same and about just as credible. Please don't let some of the bloggers who tend to worry alot and go negative, or any of our visitors who like to get us all worked up, do just that, get us worked up and fighting.

I thought that Obama resigned from the Senate today so he will not be voting on Liebermann, ouster or chairmanships. He will have no control over the end result. By saying that he wants Joe to caucus with the dems just shows that he is not revengeful. Keep your friends close and your enemies closure.

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By JuanE. Nov 14th 2008 at 5:24 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 5:24 am EST)

I completely agree with you. Hillary is in no way qualified to be Secretary of State. Her only elected experience is that she is a junior senator. Her only management experience is a failed dis-organized campaign. Iran asked the UN to sanction her during the primaries because she said that she would annihilate them. Hiring her as SOS is not a good sign to foreign countries that the US is willing to use diplomacy before going to war.

The only thing going on here is Hillary trying her best to sabotage Obama's presidency even before he is inaugurated so that she can run in 2012. I would not vote for her under no circumstances.

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By yesterdaygone : they said this day would never come Nov 14th 2008 at 1:25 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:25 am EST)

freaky story about rahm's dad:

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is this really true?

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By Sans Doute Nov 14th 2008 at 1:55 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:55 am EST)

Emanuel apologizes for father's remarks

Obama's incoming chief-of-staff, Rahm Emanuel, apologized to an Arab-American group for his father's line when asked about his loyalties: "What is he, an Arab?"

“Today, Rep. Emanuel called Mary Rose Oakar, president of the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee, apologized on behalf of his family and offered to meet with representatives of the Arab-American community at an appropriate time in the future," said an Emanuel spokesman, Nick Papas.

The committee had written Emanuel demanding that he repudiate the remark, which could be read either as a slur against Arabs (it was followed by "He’s not going to be mopping floors at the White House") or simply as a statement of the son's loyalty to Israel, where his father lives.

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By James a Vietnam Vet from NC Nov 14th 2008 at 1:57 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:57 am EST)

Yes, evidence he is a 'terrorist' by definition.

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By ◎Desert Dove Dan◎ Nov 14th 2008 at 1:29 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:29 am EST)

Barack Obama - Earth's Cry Heaven's Smile

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Set to the soulful sound of Carlos Santana

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By Connie_W in Arizona Nov 14th 2008 at 1:31 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:31 am EST)

I just loved that video and PE Barack Obama's message. I love how he told about Kennedy's reaction to the poor.

Let's try to keep this blog real | Report to Admin

By Rock on Mr. President!! Nov 14th 2008 at 1:33 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:33 am EST)

Media fasted for a while then turned on Daly & Colbert...figured couldn't be that bad...

Aargh Reilly & Stephen Moore...
Flipped a bit...and a bitter Dobbs on HNN

Ted Turner on with Blitzer...not too bad

So I figure I'll check out the Obama blog...Aargh!!

Let's try to keep this place real and rumor free.

Unless it comes from the source then it's a rumor.
Annonymous sources are ridiculous aren't they.

Didn't our Momma's and our Poppa's raise us better: Don't believe everything you hear...something about the horses mouth.

Let's all put our heads together and try to figure out how to put out the fires of fear...

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By Yiannis aka Stephen Colber(t) for Vice Presiden(t) Nov 14th 2008 at 1:34 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:34 am EST)

Politico reports Obama is considering Hillary for Sec of state. Clinton is knowledgeable on internal affairs but she is insecure and hawkish on foreign policy.

John Podesta, Rahm Emanuel and Hillary Clinton.

If this materializes that's change we can Xerox.

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By Rock on Mr. President!! Nov 14th 2008 at 1:41 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:41 am EST)

Do you have a link?

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By yesterdaygone : they said this day would never come Nov 14th 2008 at 1:42 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:42 am EST)

i don't mind podesta. what's your problem with him?

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By yesterdaygone : they said this day would never come Nov 14th 2008 at 1:48 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:48 am EST)

keith repeated something i've argued during the primary, back when her name was getting floated as a vp prospect: hillary couldn't survive the vetting process.

~

check it out, stephen colbert rendered in lego:

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By ShellySong♫ Live Life To The Fullest♫ Nov 14th 2008 at 1:42 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:42 am EST)

Unfortunately, my job ended on 10/31 so my current job is conducting the job search. Fortunately, I get to read the papers and watch the media so that I can hear first hand what's being reported. This "bailout" issue is a joke and it's not acceptable to me that we haven't been told with specifics what's going on, it's absolutely crazy that our reps don't know. I'm considering writing a letter but thought it would have a greater impact if we all submitted a letter to our senators/reps and to our local news media. One letter with one signature may be overlooked but one letter with hundreds or thousands of signatures may not be so easily overlooked. We need to know what is going on and I believe we have a right to know well before January 20th. If this current administration wants to go on vacation, then they can do it on their dime on January 21st. If you're interested in participating, send me an email at mflagg@nc.rr.com.

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By Bev for Pres Obama from Canada Nov 14th 2008 at 2:00 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:00 am EST)

Hi
I don't feel that there is a need to start panicking or demanding a lot of answers. The admin probably has about 500 or more people it needs to hire between now and Jan 20th. Barack did say that he would not be announcing and Secretaries before December. He will tell us when he knows something and not before Everything is all speculation and rumors from unnamed sources which is as good as no source. So we must just stay calm and patient and wait for news from Obama or his admin. No one else can speak for him. Patience, Patience Patience.

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By ShellySong♫ Live Life To The Fullest♫ Nov 14th 2008 at 2:10 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:10 am EST)

Bev,
You've misunderstood my issue. I'm not asking for answers about the Obama administration appointments. I want answers about the $700M bailout package. Seems that almost half has been spent and it wasn't spent as originally presented and it remains as to what is going to be directly allocated to help Main St. U.S.A.

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By Bev for Pres Obama from Canada Nov 14th 2008 at 2:27 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:27 am EST)

My apologize for misunderstanding. On the bailout issue I agree with you 100%.

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By yesterdaygone : they said this day would never come Nov 14th 2008 at 1:53 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:53 am EST)

you think the campaign ever thought to round up and reserve a certain amount of inaugural tickets for their grassroots supporters?

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By Mason City 4 Obama Nov 14th 2008 at 7:11 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 7:11 am EST)

I'm sure hoping so...does anyone have any information? Or are the tickets only available through the congress?

BailOUTRAGE !!! | Report to Admin

By Sans Doute Nov 14th 2008 at 2:13 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:13 am EST)

I'm about to log off after having caught up on all the days news. But first, I really, REALLY feel like venting -- not that it's going to do any good, but... what the heck.

OK. First and foremost -- the bailOUTRAGE! I was reading that Fannie/Freddie may Require Billions More in Assistance!!

Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, November 14, 2008; Page A01

The first of the Bush administration's major financial takeovers, the seizure of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, is poised to get more expensive and some analysts are warning that it may ultimately cost more than the government has suggested.

Mounting troubles in the financial and housing markets have further undermined the health of the companies in the months since the government seized them in September, making it likely the Treasury will be required to pump billions of dollars into the mortgage-finance giants.

Though not a cent has been spent, some analysts are warning the tab could exceed the $200 billion that the government set aside for capital infusions into the two companies. ( Link )

Then there's the auto industry. Obama's economic advisers are now convinced that if General Motors Corp. doesn't get a financial lifeline soon, it will have to file for bankruptcy by the end of January. And if the companies don't get almost $50 billion, Obama will be dealing with the issue again by next summer.

What's next?? The Airline industry?? Why the hell is this bailout/rescue plan -- which should now be called the bailOUTRAGE -- so freakin' disorganized??? Why can't the Bush Admin and Paulson get their act together and oversee what's going on with these billions and billions of dollars being given to Wall Street and the Big 3, but... WHERE IS THE HELP FOR THE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE A MONTH OR LESS AWAY FROM LOSING THEIR HOMES?

All things considered, there SHOULD BE a way for Obama to step in NOW -- you know, that "fierce urgency of NOW -- and help this morons ORGANIZE this disaster! I, for one (in a few million) simply cannot afford to lose what's left of what little I've managed to put away in my retirement account. As it is right now, I'm going to have to keep working until I'm 87. My whole goal right now is to be able to retire before I die!

Oh yeah... about Hillary; NO WAY!!

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By Derrek from Plainfield, NJ Nov 14th 2008 at 2:21 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:21 am EST)

Hillary is very interesting choice, I am unclear why she would be chosen.

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By Randy from Escondido, CA Nov 14th 2008 at 2:26 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:26 am EST)

First,

I think Hillary Clinton would make a fine choice as Sec of State. Don't forget she went to the wall for Barack to get him elected and because of her association with Bill knows the ins and outs of foreign governments very well. I am and have always been an ardent supporter of Obama and voted for him in the primary. He is trying do do right by us so stop second guessing what he is doing.

Now for my rant. The culture of greed and corruption has gotten out of control in America. These corporate CEO's of Banks who are not doing with the bailout money what was intended of it need to be exposed to the public and made a mockery of. There names should be posted on bill boards. There needs to be a price to be paid for screwing the public. The problem isn't the laws. The problem is no one (our leaders) is showing the spine to actually enforce the laws. And the people are so assimilated into a broken system they won't protest.

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By ShellySong♫ Live Life To The Fullest♫ Nov 14th 2008 at 2:34 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:34 am EST)

Randy,
Read up some and see my previous post. I'm ready to protest.

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By Bev for Pres Obama from Canada Nov 14th 2008 at 2:39 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:39 am EST)

If they are not doing with the money as was intended when it was given to them then they should have to pay it back.

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By Doreen D IOWA Nov 14th 2008 at 2:35 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:35 am EST)

Hey all, so whats up with Hillary being considered for Sec of State?

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By Lace; Yes We Did Nov 14th 2008 at 2:49 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:49 am EST)

Wisconsin, present for Obama!
(and Hillary too, if that's what it is!)

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By Murry Nov 14th 2008 at 2:51 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:51 am EST)

California in the house.
I was very surprised (along with Rachel Maddow) that HRC may be considered for Sec of State. I hope that Obama selects someone who agrees with him that we should talk to our enemies as well as our friends. I would like him to select someone with the same philosophy/outlook. Otherwise, foreign countries will think no one will care or listen to them.

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By Doreen D IOWA Nov 14th 2008 at 3:09 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 3:09 am EST)

I believe this Hillary business was just news to get Palin out of the picture!! I think Hagel or Kerry would be better for the job!! although I do feel Hill should have a major role, she did an awesome job for BARACK! maybe Sec of Health & Human Serv.

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By Livvy Nov 14th 2008 at 4:00 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 4:00 am EST)

Sydney, Australia..Do you think we might be sexist..we seem to come down harder on the females than the males.Or maybe we just need more in Government so we have a wider array to choose from

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By Anthony in N.C. Nov 14th 2008 at 7:28 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 7:28 am EST)

Good Morning from Greenville, N.C.

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By Livvy Nov 14th 2008 at 3:51 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 3:51 am EST)

I marvel at those kids working industriously together and with such pride they look at their masterpiece.. streetscape is so liberating and meaningful.. it reminds me of Aboriginal rock painting done thousands of years ago to communicate lifes lessons

Here's Why Palin Didn't Give A Press Conference | Report to Admin

By KenHussein supporting President Obama Nov 14th 2008 at 4:09 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 4:09 am EST)

(Video/1:35);

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Dr Elaine Kamarck | Report to Admin

By Livvy Nov 14th 2008 at 4:39 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 4:39 am EST)

She seems switched on..

She conducts research on 21st century government, the role of the Internet in political campaigns, homeland defense, intelligence reorganization, and governmental reform and innovation. Kamarck received her PhD in political science from the University of California, Berkeley. Kamarck is the author of "The End of Government As We Know It: Policy Implementation in the 21st Century" published by Lynne Rienner Publishing, Fall, 2006.

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Is there a place for her in BO's administration?

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By The Traveler Nov 14th 2008 at 7:17 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 7:17 am EST)

Of course there is. All she has to do is apply for it. But if she's not SQUEAKY CLEAN in every conceivable way, she need-not-apply.

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By Livvy Nov 14th 2008 at 4:54 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 4:54 am EST)

Long-suffering political footsoldiers who toiled tirelessly, at least since September, to put Obama in the White House recently learned they will be getting extra paychecks worth a month's salary, the Daily News has learned.
And boy, are they grateful.
"I think it's a very nice gesture for people who slaved away and sacrificed for the past year," said one pleased ex-staffer.
"It was totally unexpected, and you can't believe how helpful this is with the holidays coming," the lower-level worker said. "A lot of people thought they were going to be broke and would have to try to find a job in this rotten economy. It's a huge help."

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By WEBMASTER Nov 14th 2008 at 5:03 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 5:03 am EST)

WE CAN NOT AND SHALL NOT TURN BACK - THE FUTURE IS OURS NOW - TAKE HOLD OF IT.

Another considered proposition... | Report to Admin

By Livvy Nov 14th 2008 at 5:05 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 5:05 am EST)

Former Iowa Gov. Tom Vilsack, a late, but enthusiastic, supporter of Barack Obama, is highly regarded as a candidate for secretary of agriculture.

Vilsack, 57, who served two terms as governor from 1998 to 2006, reportedly has been shortlisted for the top job at the U.S. Department of Agriculture.

An Obama adviser, speaking on background Thursday, called reports Vilsack is a "near shoo-in" for the post premature. However, he said Vilsack is "well-liked" by those advising Obama on cabinet choices.

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By _Stacey_ Nov 14th 2008 at 5:53 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 5:53 am EST)

CNN) -- Nations are abdicating their responsibility by failing to provide enough military aid to the U.N. mission in the Democratic Republic of Congo as it struggles to stop brutal violence, the head of Oxfam International in the Congo said Thursday.

Camp dwellers are being treated for multiple health conditions, including cholera and malaria.

1 of 3 "There appears to be no urgency in the international community's talks on the crisis, but this is a deeply urgent situation. The world is failing in its responsibility to protect the Congo's innocent civilians," Juliette Prodhan said in a written statement.

"There has been an increase in incidents of forced labor, rape and widespread brutality," according to assessments carried out by the humanitarian group over the past week, Prodhan said. "Armed men from all sides prey upon those who have sought 'sanctuary' from the fighting in North Kivu (province)."

Fighting broke out in the province at the end of August between government forces and rebels led by Gen. Laurent Nkunda.

The fighting was spurred by lingering tensions over the 1994 slaughter of ethnic Tutsis by majority Hutus in neighboring Rwanda. Nkunda says his forces are trying to defend Congolese Tutsis from Hutu militants who escaped to Congo.

In the past week, Oxfam workers visited camps and communities in Kibati, just north of the city of Goma; Sake and Minova, south of Goma; and Kanyabayonga, north of Rutshuru, Prodhan said.

"Findings reveal that civilians continue to face widespread brutality after they have fled from the heart of the fighting."......

obama family please remember the women and children who are the most affected. replies to this post with your comment will be appreciated

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By Ankh81 Nov 14th 2008 at 6:07 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 6:07 am EST)

We, ouside of the USA, share that hope. This election is the best thing that happened since a long time. A chance to give strenght to a political will. Best wishes from France!

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By MOG-- Champaign, IL Nov 14th 2008 at 6:39 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 6:39 am EST)

Well . . it looks like the talk of HRC and the Sec of State position has hit a few nerves in Obama land. I love you guys. No worries President Elect Obama will do what is right for all of the United States.

I love you guys!

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By Czarina JB in Arizona Nov 14th 2008 at 8:37 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:37 am EST)

Thank you! He got us this far. Trust him!

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By The Truth Will Make You Free Nov 14th 2008 at 7:18 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 7:18 am EST)

Watching Bill Ayers on GMA and he's not letting Chris Como pin a relationship on him with BO that did not exist. He's really like my grandma said "time enough for him". Good for you Mr. Ayers.

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By NY Woman for Obama Nov 14th 2008 at 7:24 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 7:24 am EST)

this is MY Morning Joe...Joe BIDEN!

I actually saw Joe in the position of Secretary of State.... sigh.... I guess I can't have my Vice President Cake and my Secretary of State too!

QUICK BIO:

Education:
JD, Syracuse University College of Law, 1968
BA, History/Political Science, University of Delaware, 1965.

THINGS YOU MAY NOT KNOW:

- ADJUNCT PROFESSOR, Widener University School of Law, 1991 TO PRESENT

- Attorney, Private Practice, Wilmington, Delaware, 1968-1972.

****Chairman, Senate Foreign Relations Committee, 2006
****Vice Chairman, North Atlantic Treaty Organization Parliamentary Assembly.
****Foreign Relations, Chair
****Subcommittee on Crime and Drugs, Chair

MEMBER OF THE FOLLOWING
-Subcommittee on Antitrust, Competition Policy and Consumer Rights
- Judiciary
- Subcommittee on East Asian and Pacific Affairs
- Subcommittee on European Affairs
- Subcommittee on Human Rights and the Law
- Subcommittee on Immigration, Border Security and Refugees
- Subcommittee on International Development and Foreign Assistance, Economic Affairs and International Environmental Protection
- Subcommittee on International Operations and Organizations, Democracy and Human Rights
- Subcommittee on Near Eastern and South and Central Asian Affairs
- Subcommittee on Terrorism, Technology and Homeland Security
- Subcommittee on Western Hemisphere, Peace Corps and Narcotics Affairs
- Judiciary
- Subcommittee on East Asian and Pacific Affairs
- Subcommittee on European Affairs
- Subcommittee on Human Rights and the Law
- Subcommittee on Immigration, Border Security and Refugees
- Subcommittee on International Development and Foreign Assistance, Economic Affairs and International Environmental Protection
- Subcommittee on International Operations and Organizations, Democracy and Human Rights
- Subcommittee on Near Eastern and South and Central Asian Affairs
- Subcommittee on Terrorism, Technology and Homeland Security
- Subcommittee on Western Hemisphere, Peace Corps and Narcotics Affairs

He has the resume of TWO people not one - energetic and brilliant

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By SMraleigh Nov 14th 2008 at 8:35 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:35 am EST)

Yeah, but Can he dress a moose? Can he see Russia from his house? Can he whip people into a fury to form a lynch mob?

I mean, all that book learnin and stuff! College degrees and experience! Hasn't he been in leadership roles since you were in 2nd grade? What are you thinking?

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By Suzanne from CT Nov 14th 2008 at 1:47 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:47 pm EST)

Yeaah, finally someone is talking. Palin for Secretary of State!!!!!! ;)

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By pf from Youngstown, Ohio Nov 14th 2008 at 7:29 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 7:29 am EST)

I hated Hillary during the primaries......but later developed a soft spot for her as she genuinely worked hard to get Sen. Obama elected.......IMHO she is more suited for Supreme Court position than Sec Of State........But I'm sure BO team knows better & will make the appropriate choice.

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By Australian Helen Nov 14th 2008 at 7:41 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 7:41 am EST)

When is she due in court? I thought it was sometime this month. Or, maybe they were truly trumped up charges which have been dismissed.

Someone capable of doing a little sleuthing on the court question?

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By Brigitte Nov 14th 2008 at 7:47 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 7:47 am EST)

I also now feel positively about Hillary. I think she is a good choice. She is well
known and well liked around the world. She has worked hard for this campaign. You cannot argue with her intelligence and with her experience.

We also need to support the choices of Obama. He has not let us down so far.

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By Brigitte Nov 14th 2008 at 7:34 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 7:34 am EST)

I think Hillary is an excellent choice for Secretary of State. It is time for women to have some key posts in the Democratic government. Also after seeing someone so unqualified as Sarah Palin getting such a key position as a possible VP, it makes us all realize just how brilliant a woman Clinton really is. Even though at one point I did not support Clinton, I have changed my mind and feel that she is right for the job.

One thing people cannot deny about Hillary is that she is very smart, qualified, she knows her facts, and if she did an interview with Katie Couric she knows every answer to all the questions out there.

Palin could never match Clinton and I think it is a disgrace the Republicans are even thinking of making Palin a frontrunner for their party.

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By Nicky from Fort Lauderdale, FL Nov 14th 2008 at 8:20 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:20 am EST)

If she is chosen and she accepts, I think Hillary will be great as Secretary of State. She is a hard worker and will get things done. We had a long and tough primary but that is now OVER. Once it was over she campaigned her heart out for the Obama/Biden ticket. I can't believe so many people that have beem posting on the blog hold such grudges against her. It is quite dishearteneing to see such displays of people being sore winners. My god the primary is long over and we WON. It is so childish to hold on to bitter feelings from the past.

Next | Report to Admin

By RTV in St. Paul. This election is for JFK, MLK, and RFK. Bring it home. Nov 14th 2008 at 7:55 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 7:55 am EST)

Hillary, Smillary, Pillary...move on.

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By Theresa in Maine Nov 14th 2008 at 7:55 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 7:55 am EST)

Good morning,

It truly surprises me that there was such negative talk on the thread before this one that's still going on and on and on.

I'm so grateful that Obama and Biden were elected to run this country, that not for one second would I question who will be selected for any position.

Imagine yourselves as being a staunch republican who worked hard for McCain/Palin. How would you be feeling right now? The likes of idiots like Rush Limbaugh are further encouraging fear in these folks - rather then giving Obama a chance to even be sworn in. Imagine yourselves believing the false rumors and all the garbage that was fed to you by right-wing extremists?

Obama will be a GREAT president because he will govern us through this great time of need. The world is in a recession and may be heading toward a depression. Donations are down and some food pantries are empty. Tens of thousands have lost their homes and their jobs.

If we trusted enough to vote for Obama, then perhaps we might think about trusting whom he selects for every position.

I have a hard time with the people who think that their way is the best way to do things when they truly know ziltch about the subject.

Senator Clinton is brilliant and would be an excellent choice for any position she's placed in. Don't forget how much Bill Clinton is loved by the world.

The primaries have been over for a long time, folks and things are said in primaries. That's politics. Work on getting over it.

The talk here against Hillary sickens me. I have always been for Obama. So make no mistake about that.

I'd suggest we all realize our limitations. If Obama were to ask 100 of us who we wanted, we'd perhaps come up with 95 different answers. We voted for him so that he and he alone will make the best decisions for us.

Either we TRUST and have FAITH and HOPE in him and his decisions or we don't.

I consider myself lucky beyond belief to have Obama as my next president and Biden as my next vice president.

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By Nicky from Fort Lauderdale, FL Nov 14th 2008 at 8:29 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:29 am EST)

Well said!!

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By Theresa in Maine Nov 14th 2008 at 8:48 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:48 am EST)

Thanks, Nicky

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By ♥ dreamweaver "Grab A Mop" ♥ aka Vicki from Iowa Nov 14th 2008 at 11:08 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:08 am EST)

Theresa, I couldn't agree with you more. The last thread was pathetic. Old habits die hard I guess. I gave up on last night, hoping today would be a brighter day.

Hugs, Vicki

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By Tori from Greenville,SC Nov 14th 2008 at 9:10 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 9:10 am EST)

Theresa I just logged on and I suspected that people would be going crazy about Hillary's name being floated as Sec of State which is why I didn't even bother to log on last night when I first heard the story. It was the same way during the primaries when the media started "floating" her name for VP. I refuse to buy into any of these so called "leaks" since our campaign did not engage in leaking information during the primaries. I don't care what the pundits claim that "sources" told them. I will wait for an official announcement or statement from the campaign. The man hasn't even set foot in office yet and people are already displaying knee jerk reactions to speculation. For every person that disagrees with a decision that Obama makes there is another one that agrees with it. He has said too many times that we will not always agree but we can "disagree without being disagreeable." The man is brilliant,thoughtful, and pragmatic therefore I will have faith in his decisions and trust his judgment. America gave Bush eight years so I would think that they could give Obama at least a day to set foot in office.

Re: Still talking about Obama's Secretary of State choice? | Report to Admin

By Suzanne in Jupiter, FL Nov 14th 2008 at 9:15 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 9:15 am EST)

Theresa, I am with you. It is astounding how many "experts" we have on this blog. I for one will wait and trust Obama on whom he picks for his administration.

Re: Still talking about Obama's Secretary of State choice? | Report to Admin

By Theresa in Maine Nov 14th 2008 at 10:15 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:15 am EST)

Tory and Suzanne:

Thanks for your comments to my post. I attempted to word it in such a way as to enable people to understand that we elected Obama and that Obama will select the right person for the right position as he sees fit.

I truly get frustrated with the show of immaturity and drama at silly rumors probably conjured up by the MSM to get folks riled up.

In his own time, Obama will put into place the best darned Cabinet possible.

It saddens me in a way, because this little tantrum drama by his so-called supporters seems to be the way of so many in this world, doesn't it? This "I'm with you, but you'd better give me my way" attitude is akin to "my way or the highway.

My husband and I have decided after seeing the drama played out on MSNBC last night, that we'll look for enjoyable shows on TV. We don't need it.

Time to Roll Out the Cabinet ... | Report to Admin

By Dianne Nov 14th 2008 at 7:56 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 7:56 am EST)

It time to put the "Rumor Mill" and "Leaky Pipe" to rest!

Time to roll out the top Cabinet positions to stop the speculation. The MSM has nothing better to do than speculate and eventually it will cause dissension within Democrat circles.

Make decisions, name those Cabinet announcements, and stop the madness!

Re: Time to stop giving backseat driving orders | Report to Admin

By rich Nov 14th 2008 at 8:03 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:03 am EST)

Re: Time to stop giving backseat driving orders to the President-elect.

Barack Obama's Possible Cabinet:"A Team Of Rivals" | Report to Admin

By The EQualizer Nov 14th 2008 at 8:04 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:04 am EST)

Barack Obama's Possible Cabinet:"A Team Of Rivals"

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Anti-Christ charge | Report to Admin

By Aging Radical Nov 14th 2008 at 8:09 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:09 am EST)

Although I don't Watch Fox, I did see that they had a report on Fundamentalists who are claiming Obama is "the Anti-Christ". I do not understand how they can keep playing that card and being believed. I am 58 years old and in my lifetime I have heard the Christians call so many people the (must be only one) anti-Christ. Here is a partial list of them: Mao-tse-Tung, Pope John XXIII, Nakita Khreushchev, John Kennedy, Ho Chi Minh, Henry Kissinger, Ayatollah Khomeini, Bill Clinton, Saddam Hussein. It boggles my mind that people still believe this crap.

Re: Anti-Christ charge | Report to Admin

By Nicky from Fort Lauderdale, FL Nov 14th 2008 at 8:21 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:21 am EST)

They're a bunch of crazy wingnuts that should be ignored and not taken seriously.

Re: Anti-Christ charge | Report to Admin

By CHELSEA Nov 14th 2008 at 7:29 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 7:29 pm EST)

This is just awful!

Re: Anti-Christ charge | Report to Admin

By NY Woman for Obama Nov 14th 2008 at 8:37 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:37 am EST)

Is Cheney the Democrat's Anti-Christ? Is chocolate MY Anti-Christ?

It's a term as overused as the word "Love"

Let the Fundamentalists talk and talk.

In the wake of devestation the GOP incurred because they PANDERED to this minority base I'm sure they're thrilled to be safety pinned to this type of rhetoric for decades to come.

There are Fundamentalists and there are Fundamentalists.

True believers' lives are reflection of the Bible and are taught,

"Judge not lest YE be judged,"

"Ye who are without sin cast the first stone"

"In my Father's house are many mansions"

True followers of Christ can NOT be Finger-Pointers

Jesus never tells his disciples to seek out and label someone.

It's all about that four letter word.

L-O-V-E

Hillary Clinton -- Deal Breaker | Report to Admin

By Neva Nov 14th 2008 at 8:13 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:13 am EST)

If Obama appoints Hillary Clinton Secretary of State, it will be our first real signal that he is not the man we thought he was.

He promised change, integrity and transparency. Hillary Clinton is anathema to all three.

For me it would be a deal breaker; 'bye 'bye Obama in 2012.

Furthermore, foreign heads of state have explicitly said they want new faces; not those of people tied to old administrations -- and might I add, old scandalous administrations.

As short a time ago as her campaign, Hillary Clinton had the people of Kenya outraged (leaking, with sinister intentions, pictures of Obama in Kenyan tribal costume); the people of Ireland baffled and shaking their heads (falsely claiming to have brought peace to Ireland); the people of Bosnia aghast and amused, were it not so serious (lying about coming under sniper fire).

As first lady, she outraged Israelis when she kissed Suha Arafat after Suha had just given a speech falsely accusing Israelis of poisoning Palestinians with toxic gases and killing Palestinian children by lacing the water with chemicals.

Hillary Clinton qualified to be Secretary of State?

ABSOLUTELY NOT

Re: Hillary Clinton -- Deal Breaker | Report to Admin

By Aging Radical Nov 14th 2008 at 8:27 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:27 am EST)

It was a report. It has not been verified. Can't we stop the emotional, knee-jerk reactions and be logical. I don't know who should be in the cabinet, not one of them has sent me their resume'.

Re: Hillary Clinton -- Deal Breaker | Report to Admin

By Nicky from Fort Lauderdale, FL Nov 14th 2008 at 8:28 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:28 am EST)

I am sick of the self righteous, holier than though attitude being displayed on this board. Hillary and Barack had a tough primary which Barack won. It is over. This woman campaigned her heart out for the ticket once the primary was over. She is qualified and would do great in whatever capacity she serves. If Obama selecting Hillary for Secretary of State would make you no longer support the upcoming administration then honey you were never much of a strong supporter to begin with. If you don't agree with the choice fine but did you expect to agree with every choice made? If you don't agree with the choice, agree to disagree and move on to the next battle. I am just amazed with all the problems we face with an economy is collapse and being involved in two wars that this is what people choose to bitch about - Hillary possibly being Secretary of State. Sorry I find these rantings and threats childish.

Re: Hillary Clinton -- Deal Breaker | Report to Admin

By Theresa in Maine Nov 14th 2008 at 8:45 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:45 am EST)

Nicky: I fully agree with you. I am also sickened by the self righteous, holier than though attitude being displayed on this board.

I have a very difficult time with the attitude of people who know nothing about the qualities needed to be in a certain position, getting so darn dramatic and negative about a possible selection of the person they voted for.

If ya voted for Obama, folks, why doubt him now? I strongly feel that these shallow people will be the first to turn on him when the going gets tough.

We are in a terrible recession and it will take a great person like Obama to put in place the very best for any and all available positions.

Why not take out your energy by seeing to it the food pantry in your town has food to fee the hungry and the Salvation Army in your town has clothing to cloth the naked.

"Oh yee of little faith"

Re: Hillary Clinton -- Deal Breaker | Report to Admin

By Cheryl from Boston Feels the Gift Nov 14th 2008 at 8:47 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:47 am EST)

Not "Childish"!

Hillary must not become Sec of State! Her positions will not have changed with respect to her policies with Obama's overseas. That is a FACT. Her history has demonstrated that.

We have a right to make that opinion heard as loud as we can! We need and want another choice of which there are plenty better capable. Her background does not prove she has ANY governing experience overseas outside of having MET those folks as First Lady. Richardson is a better choice by far---and in line with Obama's sight. Kerry would be good. Personally I believe Powell would be the most ideal---but that I suspect would just be too much for the American people...

So please do not paint this group of volunteers who did their homework on just about everyone out there that they are childish for making their statements heard--it is now our government and we will be heard. In the end of course it is Obama's choice---but he said he wanted to hear from us and he will!

Good day!

Re: Hillary Clinton -- Deal Breaker | Report to Admin

By Cheryl from Boston Feels the Gift Nov 14th 2008 at 9:07 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 9:07 am EST)

In addition, I would like to say that instead of bashing the opinions in here by the hard working volunteers--many who have tirelessly committed themselves for months on end right up to the last day of GOTV and who did their homework throughout and gave their all to voicing their want in a new government--why don't you instead voice your own opinon should it be different and leave it at!

We don't need to bash each other and name call for having a different voice. Just give the reasons why you see it differently keeping up a discussion.

Besitos y Paz,
Cheryl in Boston

Re: Hillary Clinton -- Deal Breaker | Report to Admin

By CHELSEA Nov 15th 2008 at 1:09 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:09 am EST)

Cheryl:
I am with you!

Re: Hillary Clinton -- Deal Breaker | Report to Admin

By CompassionateObama Supporter Nov 14th 2008 at 11:20 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:20 am EST)

I totally agree with you Nicky.

Re: Hillary Clinton -- Deal Breaker | Report to Admin

By Tori from Greenville,SC Nov 14th 2008 at 8:58 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:58 am EST)

Neva Barack Obama will put the best team together regardless of whether or not it's a "deal breaker" for you. He has said too many times that we may not agree with everything he does. He has also said that he has read "Team of rivals" several times and doesn't want "yes men" around him. He wants people with different perspectives that don't necessarily agree with him all of the time like Abraham Lincoln. I guess I was naive for thinking that the backseat driving would stop since we won the nomination.

Re: Hillary Clinton -- Deal Breaker | Report to Admin

By Cheryl from Boston Feels the Gift Nov 14th 2008 at 9:24 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 9:24 am EST)

Funny you call it backseat driving because one expresses their opinion. Good grief, frankly he does listen to us. Yours and my opinion. That being said so what is your problem if you say he doesn't want yes men around him then we too have an opinion that perhaps isn't a yes. After 11 months of dedicated campaigning I can assure you Obama has indeed listened to this group of volunteers and has made changes based on opinion in here!

Groups of ADVISERS will giving him differening opinions! Sec of State needs to be ON BOARD with the PRINCIPALS of effecting good leadership with difficult countries! Hillary has clearly demonstrated that she is not of that ilk. So what your saying that she is in line with Barack's view of the world? Not. So she changed overnight? Not--and if she did then who is she?
Please, I wonder why one would want Hillary as Sec of State so badly--as a prize? Hillary has as Senator the chance to MAKE changes and in time may just earn that most lofted senior position that my lion of a senator now holds. In time! and most powerful that would be.

Powell would be the best choice but alas perhaps too much for our country... Richardson would be excellent, Lugar would be great, Kerry could do the post better than Hillary--though I admit Kerry is not my first or second choice. Sec. of State can have a different view to express and not be a yes man-woman, but one should be in LINE with the President and Hillary demonstrated clearly she was OLD SCHOOL and Hawkish!

So I say why are the folks in here who disagree with the other folks so much about name calling such as backseat drivers, childish, etc. Please allow all of us to express our opinions and argue with each other based on perspectives without labeling each other.

Keep up the DISCUSSION! Express your views! People do acquiesce from good dialogue!

Besitos y Paz,
Cheryl in Boston

Re: Hillary Clinton -- Deal Breaker | Report to Admin

By Julie S from Media, PA Nov 14th 2008 at 9:37 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 9:37 am EST)

My two cents......

I agree about Obama needing to be bold about the "change" in Washington. I understand that you have to have some people in the transition with experience. (I was dismayed to hear about the lobbiests on the team as well)

Where is the NEW?

What about Samantha Powers ? Susan Rice ?

Re: Hillary Clinton -- Deal Breaker | Report to Admin

By Cheryl from Boston Feels the Gift Nov 14th 2008 at 9:53 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 9:53 am EST)

Susan Rice! Yes, she is most impressive. I hope she is somewhere in the top cabinet!

What lobbiests do you speak of?

Re: Hillary Clinton -- Deal Breaker | Report to Admin

By Tori from Greenville,SC Nov 14th 2008 at 10:40 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:40 am EST)

Cheryl I agree that everyone has a right to their opinion. You say Hillary is not qualified. In all honesty do you think the man that you helped elect President would be considering anybody that wasn't qualified? Does anybody think that Obama would pick HRC if he thought it would not be a good choice for reasons we may not understand? When I referenced he doesn't want "yes men" around him I was quoting him directly. He said that he doesn't want people around him that only agree with his positions which is why he chose Joe Biden. He sated that he wanted people that he could have a heated debate with to help solve problems. I do find it odd that supporters are coming here almost in a panic based on media speculation. The media admitted not being able to get much information from the Obama camp regarding the transition and it has them frustrated. Unless Andrea Mitchell's source is Barack Obama himself I will take everything they say about the cabinet appointments with a grain of salt. A supporter should not jump ship for not agreeing with one decision. If we all jump ship because we're dissatisfied with a decision he makes then he is going to have a rough Presidency which is ironic considering America gave Bush 8 long years in office.

Re: Hillary Clinton -- Deal Breaker | Report to Admin

By Cheryl from Boston Feels the Gift Nov 14th 2008 at 3:58 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 3:58 pm EST)

Hello Tory,

Not able to answer until now late in the day.

Not sure why you and others call it "jumping ship"?

Truly, I just don't get the anger to US here commenting about Who We Would "Like" to see. That is not Jumping Ship. And I for one am not getting all excited by what the media is hyping. It is out there and it frankly has always been a thought that he may offer Hill the position. You are correct that one may trust his judgement to do the correct thing and appoint one whom he believes does have the experience. Experience perhaps is not the corrrect term I for one should have used---Tone, on the same page, etc.

I still believe it is not panick nor jumping ship for any of us here to comment about who he picks for any post. We should comment. He he chooses one we are concerned about, perhaps we shall see that we were wrong. I am not married to MY ideas. I just don't want Hillary as Sec of State. Period. She is a HAWK and a misguided one at that.
Do you think she has changed her tune since her campaign? If she has then I worry still...! I don't like Hillary and have never failed to say otherwise. She is not to be trusted. If Barack chooses her well then we live with it. Yet I do hope he stays clear of having HIS presidency become Clintonian. I want for one would prefer to see an Obamaian presidency. As far as the great team of economists that many served in Clinton years, well they are the great minds that belong to the Democratic Party and he also has engaged newer ones and some as old as the Constitution Before Clinton years.

But please I have read perhaps not carefully anyway anyone proclaiming jumping ship. Certainly not me. Yet I dare say Barack can add our voices as well--as differing as they are.
So please everyone share your thoughts and cajole ous one way or another, but please do not I repeat again all day today tell us we are panicking or jumping ship or acting childish. The point is to have a discussion. Make one of your own to add to the conversation, not to chide us.

Frankly I don't believe he will pick her--it is a play...

Re: Hillary Clinton -- Deal Breaker | Report to Admin

By Kimberly Helen Hussein Nov 14th 2008 at 10:11 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:11 am EST)

Petty much?

For the benefit of certain bloggers who got BD written all over their driver's license | Report to Admin

By rich Nov 14th 2008 at 8:28 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:28 am EST)

For the benefit of certain bloggers who got BD written all over their driver's license
... it's been decided to do a sequel of the BDC:

Here's my gift (ie. suggestion) to you -- it's not too late for you to attend the alternate convention going on this week.

It's called the Backseat Driver's Convention. It sounds like you'd fit right in there:

The BDC is designed for those who would prefer to direct Obama's campaign (as if he and his handlers don't know how to).

Here's some material to read up on before you attend the BDC:

Link

Please ensure that you bring a photo, you'll need it to get in:

Link

Lastly, here's some of the scheduled activitites:

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And for social networking at the BDC:

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so many dreams become a reality | Report to Admin

By RJ show me state Nov 14th 2008 at 8:30 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:30 am EST)

with pres,obama in charge, america will become a light to the world again. and peace and trust that america stands for that bush distroyed. will be renewed.I keep you in my prayers daily Mr. president obama. let your wisdom and courage shine through out the world. as the hope of a new america begins.lets make sure the dream never dies. and we can forever say YES WE CAN... thank you MR.president obama. for taking this challange. upon yourself knowing how tough it is gonna be but may god bless you in all you do amen

START NOW....RIGHT NOW | Report to Admin

By On the way to Inaugurate My President Nov 14th 2008 at 8:37 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:37 am EST)

My name is Chi Reece and I live in Georgia. I am in the process of starting a volunteer matching organization called CHANGE STARTS HERE. I want to take advantage of the motivation and talent that we have within our supporters and begin to make change immediately within this community.

I want you to do the same.

My idea is that we make a list of local charities, organizations, etc. We find out what times they accept volunteers. Then we call our volunteers and start scheduling. We keep records.

Later I plan to add donation collection and distribution, a website with links to other charities, and other facets.

I do plan to register this as a 501c3 and all that goes along with it. I encourage you to take this idea and put it to work in your own community. This is how we will make change, and make it now.

The idea is to give what you can, when you can. Let the spirit of giving and kindness stay with you all day, even when you are not volunteering....it will be contagious, I promise.

This will be hard work but it's work I want to do.

I am so grateful for my President, what he represents, the inspiration he has given all of us, and proud of my country for electing him.

Good Morning News | Report to Admin

By NY Woman for Obama Nov 14th 2008 at 8:51 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:51 am EST)

Friday Morning Nov. 14th

NO ONE's KEEPING WATCH OVER $700 BILLION BAILOUT
The law requires Congress get a formal report by a certain deadline. The deadline has passed and, big surprise, there is no report.

Here's the quote The Post had from the Treasury Department's inspector general: "It is a mess. I don't think anyone understands right now how we're going to do proper oversight of this thing."

Both the White House and Congress were supposed to nominate people to these oversight positions and confirm them... because of that, Paulson, a former Wall Street banker, has his blank check and our money.
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SALES OF INAUGURAL TICKETS BANNED ON EBAY
EBay is banning the sale of tickets to the inauguration.

Each of the 240,000 tickets ARE FREE

Scalpers had them for sale as high as $40,000.
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BIDEN GETS A BIOGRAPHER

Jules Witcover inked a deal to write a biography of Vice president-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr., signing up with William Morrow's Ferris who also edited Barack Obama’s first book, “Dreams from My Father.”
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Obamas Grant First Interview
60 Minutes” has landed the first post-election interview of President-elect Barack Obama and his wife Michelle for this coming Sunday. The interview is expected to fill more than one segment on the broadcast. It may fill the entire hour.
MORE:
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THE WORLD OF ADVICE FOR OBAMA ON FOREIGN POLICY WASHINGTON
— The Russians want him to hold off on the installation of a missile defense shield in Poland.

The Europeans want him to renounce the idea of “regime change” when it comes to Iran, while the Israelis want to be sure he does not give Iran a pass when it comes to nuclear weapons.
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THE SENATE RACE: MINNESOTA
Rivals Gird for Recount in Bitter Minnesota Senate Race
The recount will seek to determine the intent of voters whose ballots were not counted when they were run through optical scanners, which record only filled-in circles. For example, a star or a ring around a candidate’s name clearly signals a preference but does not register on a machine.

Each campaign plans to station a lawyer and one or two trained observers at each of the 100 to 120 expected tallying stations across the state.

There is no limit to the number of ballots that can be challenged, MORE:
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US Automakers Bailout | Report to Admin

By wendynyc Nov 14th 2008 at 8:58 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:58 am EST)

Before we bailout the auto industry Barack O needs to put down serious conditions on the bailout package instead of giving a free hand similar to the one for the banking companies.

The US automakers need to retool, acknowledge that we have global warming and make fuel efficient cars.

Otherwise it would be better off to use the money to give start ups a chance to build new and efficient and smarter cars for the 21st century. Please write to Obama to think before he bailout these guys unconditionally.

Check out this great article by Thomas Friedman:

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Economy | Report to Admin

By Kathleen from Waterford, MI Nov 14th 2008 at 9:08 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 9:08 am EST)

My solution to the economic mess we are in is...
Do not give all that money to large corporations and the car companies.
Give the money to the taxpayers, so they in turn can buy cars, pay their mortgages, buy houses, support the local retailers, etc...
We need to pull ourselves out of this economic mess from the bottom up.

What is wrong with this blog? | Report to Admin

By Suzanne in Jupiter, FL Nov 14th 2008 at 9:10 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 9:10 am EST)

I have been visiting this blog for almost 2 years. Sometimes writing a comment, but mostly just reading and learning. What I always admired is when "evil" trolls visited, trying to spread lies and ugliness, I was always impressed with how quickly the "Obama community" and its IP staff would "rid" of us the trolls and the crap they were spreading.

My question: Why was the blog hijacked last night by a group of trolls, and they and their comments not removed?

I am not computer savvy but am shocked that they and their comments are still on this blog. I must tell you I don't know if I will return to this blog if these "ugly" people are allowed to stay. Does anyone out there more computer savvy than me, have any information on why these trolls are being allowed to stay (and their comments still on the previous page)?

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By Suzanne in Jupiter, FL Nov 14th 2008 at 9:31 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 9:31 am EST)

Does no one on this blog have any answers on why the ugly, ugly trolls and their comments are still on the thread from last night?

It is unbelieveable that these people and their comments are still on the thread. I don't think this blog will survive if these trolls are allowed to stay. Come on guys, a lot of you out there have a much better understanding of how this blogging stuff works.

Talk me down, why are these trolls and their comments still on the previous thread? Why were they allowed to hijack the site last night? I would really feel bad if I could not visit this site, but I will not come back if something is not done to "rid" these ugly, ugly people.

Re: What is wrong with this blog? | Report to Admin

By Renee - It's A New Day Nov 14th 2008 at 10:08 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:08 am EST)

Did you report them?

Re: What is wrong with this blog? | Report to Admin

By Suzanne in Jupiter, FL Nov 14th 2008 at 10:27 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:27 am EST)

Yes, many many many times. Their garbage is still on last nights thread. If you have the stomach go look, their ugly comments are still there.

I am very concerned about this being allowed on this site. I will not come back if their garbage is not out of here. It will destoy our community.

Re: What is wrong with this blog? | Report to Admin

By LorethaJ-FL Nov 14th 2008 at 10:29 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:29 am EST)

I reported JB-Orange Park, Fl multiple times. He was blocked but continued to come back. He is the nasty, infamous McCain blogger... Jon B. Stephens.

Re: What is wrong with this blog? | Report to Admin

By Suzanne in Jupiter, FL Nov 14th 2008 at 10:41 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:41 am EST)

How about the others?
There was one from CO and a "Julie from Ft. Lauderdale" They owned the site last night. I reported multiple times, and their garbage is STILL posted from the last thread.

Re: What is wrong with this blog? | Report to Admin

By ♥ dreamweaver "Grab A Mop" ♥ aka Vicki from Iowa Nov 14th 2008 at 11:26 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:26 am EST)

I reported them all too.

Hugs, Vicki

Re: What is wrong with this blog? | Report to Admin

By Suzanne from CT Nov 14th 2008 at 1:53 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:53 pm EST)

Most of them were actually the same person, with lots of different accounts.

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By ♥ dreamweaver "Grab A Mop" ♥ aka Vicki from Iowa Nov 14th 2008 at 2:06 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:06 pm EST)

That's exactly what I thought too.

Hugs, Vicki

Good Grief | Report to Admin

By Tiffany from NY Nov 14th 2008 at 9:18 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 9:18 am EST)

Have you heard about this South Carolina Roman Catholic priest telling any parishoners who voted for Obama, they can't receive communion?

I'm am Catholic and I voted for Obama and sorry Fr. Newman, but not this time.

Link

Re: Good Grief | Report to Admin

By rich Nov 14th 2008 at 9:22 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 9:22 am EST)

Easy solution -- take one tithes and start attending a Catholic Church that gives out communion irrespective of one's political views.

Empty pews have been known to tone down any priest's or minister's violations of separation of church and state.

Re: Good Grief | Report to Admin

By Cheryl from Boston Feels the Gift Nov 14th 2008 at 9:27 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 9:27 am EST)

The silly Cardinal in Boston had his say recently as well!

TAX them and they will shut up!

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By Connie_W in Arizona Nov 14th 2008 at 9:34 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 9:34 am EST)

Oh, good grief. I know a few Catholic priests who voted for Obama.

This is an example of a good reason why we must protect the separation of church and state.

Re: Good Grief | Report to Admin

By Julie S from Media, PA Nov 14th 2008 at 9:42 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 9:42 am EST)

I had my Obama/Biden button on my jacket when I recieved communion. I wondered if I would be denied but did not have a problem.

Re: Good Grief | Report to Admin

By Tiffany from NY Nov 14th 2008 at 9:55 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 9:55 am EST)

Oh that is precious. Too Funny.

I actually helped a priest fill out his absentee ballot for Obama.

Re: Good Grief | Report to Admin

By Tracy in CT Nov 14th 2008 at 10:06 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:06 am EST)

While driving home a few minutes ago I saw a terrific bumper sticker.

It said:

Pro-Life
Pro-Obama

Re: Good Grief | Report to Admin

By Theresa in Maine Nov 14th 2008 at 10:38 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:38 am EST)

Tiffany:

OMG is that eerie... You see, my ex son-in-law committed suicide two weeks ago. His name was Scott Newman and the parish my daughter attends is St. Mary's also.

So very sad that Scott didn't/couldn't get himself the help he needed for his addictions.

I had many conversations with a friend who is a priest. Years ago he received a diocesean letter telling requesting that he not vote for a woman who was gay in an upcoming election. He was very upset by that instuction and told me he never votes on one issue alone. This wonderful lady in the Maine is still in office and doing her job very well.

This is the thing I dispise about organized religions. My way or the highway. My way or you go to hell.

If 2,436 religions (made up number) believe this way, where is the LOVE? Where is the UNDERSTANDING? Where is the TOLLERANCE for differences? I cannot practice any religion now and feel a real loss. But I can't take this kind of crap any more.

This priest just doesn't get the greatest commandement given by God, does he? Doesn't it go something like: "Love your neighbor as yourself?"

I have said it before and I'll say it again. I am pro-life, but I would not make any decisions for another human being.

There is one thing that I don't get at all. If the right wing-nuts are so pro-life why haven't they taken to the streets to protest the killing that happens in war?

Why aren't they taking care of people AFTER they are born. There's so much to be done.

G'Morning! | Report to Admin

By ♍ ♈Marion4BO♈ ♍ Nov 14th 2008 at 9:23 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 9:23 am EST)

I'm just peeking in to catch up on the blog. It's been awhile since I have been here and I see we are still going strong.

Love it!!

Have a bless day all

Economy | Report to Admin

By Kathleen from Waterford, MI Nov 14th 2008 at 9:23 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 9:23 am EST)

My solution to the economic mess we are in is...
Do not give all that money to large corporations and the car companies.
Give the money to the taxpayers, so they in turn can buy cars, pay their mortgages, buy houses, support the local retailers, etc...
We need to pull ourselves out of this economic mess from the bottom up.

Re: Economy | Report to Admin

By "CZARINA" MARILYN from CRYSTAL BEACH, FLORIDA aka GODDESS OF SMILES and LAUGHTER Nov 14th 2008 at 10:21 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:21 am EST)

YES WE CAN TO PRESIDENT-ELECT BARACK OBAMA, NO WE CAN'T TO SECRETARY PAULSON....................... ...........For 8 years while we may not have believed what we were being fed and our intake of antiacids was equal to the National Debt, we were stuck with what we had. In 68 days these greedy, non caring thieves will be gone. We have to call, e-mail and write our senators and congressmen NOW to stop Paulson and his cronies from getting more money and to DEMAND someone look over what has taken place up until now. 6 weeks ago we were told if the money ($750 billion aka $810 billion) was not immediately given the world would end, the sky would fall, the country would cease to exist. It took 2 weeks before they actually got the ok to get the money and guess what, the world,, the sky and the country were still pretty much still there. And even now, alomost 2 months later look around, there's a world, a sky and a USA. Now mid way through their panic alert they want us to believe there is a better direction for the money. I said it six weeks ago and I will say it agin. A bailout is for people in jail and prison so lets put the money with the definition, put these criminals behind bars and when they ask for a bailout at least for once, they will be speaking the truth. Isn't it bad enough that most of us will have no Xmas this year, fight to save our homes and jobs and hope no one in our family gets sick? We found our way when we elected Barack Obama our next president, let's stay on that same path. Please contact your state Reps, Congressmen and Senators and put a halt to this outpouring of money. Ask them to get a better explanation on the situation and report back to their states & districts. Those who created the mess will just have to suffer. Middle class America is tired of carrying the load! What is the transition team for President-Elect Barack Obama doing about this? Marilyn from Welaka, Florida

Listen and Learn | Report to Admin

By Carey from Kentucky Nov 14th 2008 at 9:30 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 9:30 am EST)

We've been through the primaries and the GE, I see some of you still have little faith. Barack didn't get to where he is by not listening to all sides and then make a judgement based upon all the facts.

Grown folks who have lost hope in less than ten days. WOW!!

Don't forget he's transitioning not only himself but family and still dealing with the death of beloved "Toots" which he hasn't had time to deal with. Imagine having all of this on your shoulders? You can't because its not happening to you but at least remember how he persevered.

Remember what Barack said about being hoodwinked and bamboozled? That's what is happening. The media doesn't have much to run on right now and they are grasping at straws. Instead of letting them take over your thoughts, how about you go volunteer at your child's or relatives school, homeless shelter or nursing home? Dig through your closet and find all those clothes you can't wear and find a Goodwill to give them to? Go volunteer for Habitat for Humanity.

Focus on how YOU can help your community. Let the pundits do their spinning but remember: "I'm asking you to believe. Not just in my ability to bring about real change in Washington.........I am asking you to believe in yours" - Barack Obama

Re: Listen and Learn | Report to Admin

By Connie_W in Arizona Nov 14th 2008 at 9:37 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 9:37 am EST)

I'm with you on this.

I elected Barack Obama and will support his decisions.

Re: Listen and Learn | Report to Admin

By JS Nov 14th 2008 at 10:04 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:04 am EST)

Very interesting comments today.

I must say I agree most with those that say let the President-elect make his own decisions and we should support whatever personnel choices he makes.

I find it interesting though that people who thought he was too inexperienced and has shady (terrorist) association, are suddenly amenable to working for him.

Re: Listen and Learn | Report to Admin

By Tracy in CT Nov 14th 2008 at 10:05 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:05 am EST)

We can always count on our Carey to be the voice of reason!

; )

Re: Listen and Learn | Report to Admin

By Carey from Kentucky Nov 14th 2008 at 10:30 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:30 am EST)

I try. I know its hard but 21 months of battle and I am not going to turn cynical. Not this time!! Not ever again!!

I choose hope over fear and the world is looking for America's beckon to shine bright and give those who are still in the dark, "light".

Re: Listen and Learn | Report to Admin

By Renee - It's A New Day Nov 14th 2008 at 10:10 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:10 am EST)

I agree. We must trust this candidate and support him. This hatred of HRC must stop. Move on. Obama and his team will pick the best people for the jobs and he'll have my continued support and prayers.

Re: Listen and Learn | Report to Admin

By Kimberly Helen Hussein Nov 14th 2008 at 10:34 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:34 am EST)

I agree- people need to stop hating.

Still Very Hopeful | Report to Admin

By Lisa from Marblehead, MA Nov 14th 2008 at 9:40 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 9:40 am EST)

We have so many issues to face in this country, but I have faith that President-Elect Obama will make well thought through decisions.

I keep going back to this page that has the 700 newspaper images of the election win.

Link

It's beautiful and hopeful like the USA!

Hillary and change | Report to Admin

By joe from Cotati Nov 14th 2008 at 9:50 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 9:50 am EST)

To me the only real change that matters is attitude. The perfect right or the perfect left have strangled this country. Neither are right as ideology, is always only a small window from which to view life. If we are all in this together, it makes sense to understand the basis of another's point of view. Hillary is an unknown. Whether she is potentially SoS of not. She showed all of us negaters that she has more depth tnan we earlier believed. She ran as the 1st serious woman candidate and had to appear more macho than the men, to avoid appearing weak. What does she feel or see about international policies ? None us really know.
Anyone here ever put there heart and soul into a dream and failed ? Ever have to turn around and promote the destroyer of your dream with conviction, one month later ? This is rare quality she displayed, it bodes well as SoS. We are all outsiders to any of these people Barack may choose, we know them not. Let it unfold with the patience Barack has demonstrated to us.

Re: Hillary and change | Report to Admin

By Keira Nov 14th 2008 at 10:11 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:11 am EST)

Sure Hillary would be a great secretary of state but how is the Obama administration going to separate Bill's shaddy business dealings with foreign governments/characters with state business. This could be messy.

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By Nate from Land O Lakes, FL Nov 14th 2008 at 10:15 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:15 am EST)

Most, if not all of us bloggers on here voted for Obama. We did because we believed in his judgement and wisdom. I do not have a problem with a possible selection of Hillary Clinton to Sec. of State. Obama may assemble a cabinet of individuals that may not be "new" or symbolize "change". However, that does not mean that change will not come. Obama is smart. He is going to put the best people in positions to get his vision of change made into a reality. Obama sees the forest from the trees and so should we. He knows what he is doing. The vehicle for change may not look any different than the same old, same old from the outside, but you have to remember, the driver of the vehicle is the most important thing. Barack is that driver and he will direct whomever he appoints, at any position, in the same direction that he envisions for this country. Trust him.

Re: Hillary and change | Report to Admin

By Kimberly Helen Hussein Nov 14th 2008 at 10:28 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:28 am EST)

Well said!

Re: Hillary and change | Report to Admin

By Theresa in Maine Nov 14th 2008 at 10:52 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:52 am EST)

Nate: Yes, very very well said. Thanks

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By ♥ dreamweaver "Grab A Mop" ♥ aka Vicki from Iowa Nov 14th 2008 at 11:37 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:37 am EST)

Thanks for the positive attitude today.

Hugs, Vicki

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By Carmen From New York City, NY Nov 14th 2008 at 12:27 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:27 pm EST)

Exactly. I love the great positive attitude. Obama knows what he is doing. Until I hear it from his lips, everything else is speculation.

Obama and Mccain on Monday | Report to Admin

By Cynthia, TX Nov 14th 2008 at 9:55 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 9:55 am EST)

It is reported the Obama transition team will meet with Mccain on Monday.

I wonder if Mccain will help with immigration reform something that is so needed in this country.

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By Australian Helen Nov 14th 2008 at 10:07 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:07 am EST)

And met with Hilary today.

This does not mean that she will be SOS... or maybe anything else, but in indicates discussions did take place. I still think she is headed for Health if her baggage will allow it.

Re: Obama and Mccain on Monday | Report to Admin

By Cynthia, TX Nov 14th 2008 at 10:09 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:09 am EST)

I am with you Helen on the Health care front. I think she would serve well in that role.

Where is my Obama Community? | Report to Admin

By Suzanne in Jupiter, FL Nov 14th 2008 at 9:59 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 9:59 am EST)

Where is the Obama community that I use to see on this site for almost 2 years? The family I could count on for answers and good information?

I asked a question about the ugly trolls and their terrible comments that are still posted on the last thread, and no one has answered by question about why their comments are still posted. In the past I could count on some one in my Obama family answering my questions.

Where is the Obama family and community I could rely on? Where is Meri, where is lace, where is everyone....

Why are the trolls from last night and their comments on last thread? Does no one care that they hijacked the thread last night?

What has happened to this blog? I feel like I am invisible here, like the community is disappearing.

Re: Where is my Obama Community? | Report to Admin

By Kimberly Helen Hussein Nov 14th 2008 at 10:06 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:06 am EST)

The thing that saddens me is that these people aren't trolls.

They're long-time supporters who are still mad at the Clintons and they're venting.

I wish the blogs were more positive- Barack has been President-Elect for less than two weeks and people are already tearing him apart and second guessing his decisions.

Re: Where is my Obama Community? | Report to Admin

By AZgrammy-"O"-wing Nov 14th 2008 at 10:14 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:14 am EST)

No, the creeps from last night WERE trolls...
Posting & re-posting over & over text praising McCain, plus expleted-deledted comments...
Just jerks!

Not the ones disputing HRC possible appointment...

Re: Where is my Obama Community? | Report to Admin

By Kimberly Helen Hussein Nov 14th 2008 at 10:26 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:26 am EST)

I see.

Re: Where is my Obama Community? | Report to Admin

By Renee - It's A New Day Nov 14th 2008 at 10:07 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:07 am EST)

Many of us are back to our jobs.....

I am working hard in GA to help elect Jim Martin for Senate.

Click Report to Admin on troll postings and they will get deleted.

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By AZgrammy-"O"-wing Nov 14th 2008 at 10:08 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:08 am EST)

I'm just coming in this A.M. from last night...
Trolls were disgusting for sure

Apparently those creeps were bragging that no one was at HQ to boot them off last evening.
Hopefully some staff eill be on hand tonight.

Re: Where is my Obama Community? | Report to Admin

By Suzanne in Jupiter, FL Nov 14th 2008 at 10:25 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:25 am EST)

Thank you all for at least responding.

They were trolls last night, at least three of them. Go back to last nights thread, their comments are still there. They bragged that our IP team cannot get rid of them.

These were not those disagreeing about Hillary. These were trolls who were saying disgusting things about Barack and all of us. They were literally on the blog and owned it. I had to get off. In all the months, I have never seen so many trolls go on for so long. I repeatedly reported all of them, but to no avail. Their comments are still there, and if you have the stomach for it go back to last nights thread and read their "trash" talk.

If this blog doesn't do a better job, like they did during the campaign of policing this obnoxious behavior, I and many others will not be back. I am just concerned that these people will ruin our community. What they were saying was spiteful and ugly....Please someon out there who knows something about this blogging and IP stuff, get them out of our community...

The work has only just begun, and we must have a way of staying connected on these threads...

Re: Where is my Obama Community? | Report to Admin

By ♥ dreamweaver "Grab A Mop" ♥ aka Vicki from Iowa Nov 14th 2008 at 11:41 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:41 am EST)

I reported them many times also. Between the trolls and the non-believers I had to call it a night early too.

Hugs, Vicki

Re: Where is my Obama Community? | Report to Admin

By joe from Cotati Nov 14th 2008 at 10:09 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:09 am EST)

Hi - it is likely that most of the overseers are not putting in a lot of time policing. Lace was up thread, and maybe tending to other life issues. Many seem to have to catch up with their deferred lives. It will pick up again, as a clear plan for public involvement takes shape. Hang in there and ignore the know it alls.

Hillary Clinton | Report to Admin

By JS Nov 14th 2008 at 10:06 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:06 am EST)

Very interesting comments today.

I must say I agree most with those that say let the President-elect make his own decisions and we should support whatever personnel choices he makes.

I find it interesting though that people who thought he was too inexperienced and has shady (terrorist) association, are suddenly amenable to working for him.

Obama enabled the 'bottom up' to lead the change we need. We now also have change at the top. I guess, what happens in the middle is really not so important.

Re: Hillary Clinton | Report to Admin

By Kimberly Helen Hussein Nov 14th 2008 at 10:08 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:08 am EST)

I'm fine with HRC as SOS. World Leaders are already getting excited about the prospect....I think that's a good sign.

I do think we're jumping the gun here. Barack hasn't made any announcements yet.

Re: Hillary Clinton | Report to Admin

By Renee - It's A New Day Nov 14th 2008 at 10:12 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:12 am EST)

He's said before it's politics. Trust in him and his team to make the best decisions and support him. He'll get plenty of flak from the right.

Whatever you think or thought of HRC, she did over 100 campaign events for Obama.

Let's move on and move forward on getting this country back on its feet.

Re: Hillary Clinton | Report to Admin

By Kimberly Helen Hussein Nov 14th 2008 at 10:25 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:25 am EST)

Well said!

Re: Hillary Clinton | Report to Admin

By Libertarian , antiwar, supporter of Obama Nov 14th 2008 at 10:40 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:40 am EST)

My issue with Hillary as Secretary of State is will she be willing to use diplomacy or will she be too eager to use the military option. If she is too eager to use the military option, I hope Obama gets sounder advice from others.

Re: Hillary Clinton | Report to Admin

By ♥ Tanya ♥ Nov 14th 2008 at 10:58 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:58 am EST)

As SOS, she'd be following the directive of the Commander-in-Chief. Remember -- He's the one calling the shots.

Re: Hillary Clinton | Report to Admin

By Renee - It's A New Day Nov 14th 2008 at 12:12 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:12 pm EST)

She can't do that without the President's backing. She would serve at the will of the President, not in her own will.

Re: Hillary Clinton | Report to Admin

By "CZARINA" MARILYN from CRYSTAL BEACH, FLORIDA aka GODDESS OF SMILES and LAUGHTER Nov 14th 2008 at 11:28 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:28 am EST)

Hi Renee, I so agree with you. Whatever anyone may think of HRC, SHE LOVES HER COUNTRY. From a young woman, she has never faltered from that. The bottom line here is that we had a 2 year campaign and that's a lot of time to sling mud, and mud was slung. But he election is now over, we have President-Elect Barack Obama. He won because he is brilliant, he rose above everything that was thrown his way, he stuck to the issues and came out the winner. HRC was never far behind him. If we think back many of their speeches we will recall want they want for our country are the same things. Middle Class America was on top of both their lists . While many may say she did not immediately get up and get on the trail for Barack and find fault with that, I think in the same position we all would have needed some space to re-group. Once the dust settled she was able to get out there and campaign as she always does, with her all. As far as SOS, just as we trusted and elected Barack Obama, we must trust his choice of the people he puts at his side. Yes we want change, but there are positions in the administration that require experience or the change will never come about. HRC has a lot to offer, she can look back to the times mistakes were made and offer suggestions for a better way. In the end we must never lose sight of who the boss is, President-Elect Barack Obama. One thing we should not allow to happen, in party fighting. The Republicans do enough of that for the entire country. We want peace not war and while we may not always agree, we do agree to disagree. We should all be putting our energy into a new energy plan not using it up picking apart fellow supporters.

Re: Hillary Clinton | Report to Admin

By Sharon Nov 14th 2008 at 10:40 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:40 am EST)

I'm hoping it will be Bill Richardson.

Re: Hillary Clinton | Report to Admin

By Debra from Austin Nov 14th 2008 at 10:47 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:47 am EST)

Unlike our last President, Obama will be running the show. I think he will make it very clear to whomever is chosen that he is the boss, that he wants their honest appraisal of the issues, but when decision making time comes, he will make the final decision. It is a Team of Rivals that works when you have a strong leader. Obama is a strong leader. The other candidates for SOS are nice and good folks but don't have the pull that Clinton has. Richardson is a great guy but not disciplined; Kerry is not a strong player. I believe Clinton could be tough as nails when she needs to be and Obama needs 'tough as nails' when it's necessary. I'm going with the Obama selection. He's who I voted for President and I'm going to let him be President which means picking his cabinet, his team, the way he wants to run it. They'll be policy issues down the road that we can argue about, but the top guy has to pick the people he trusts to get the job done. Period.

Re: Hillary Clinton | Report to Admin

By CHELSEA Nov 15th 2008 at 1:29 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:29 am EST)

Sharon,
Me too.

Hi Folks | Report to Admin

By Renee - It's A New Day Nov 14th 2008 at 10:06 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:06 am EST)

Just checking back in. I realized yesterday how much I miss listening to Obama each day. I listened to this video above and then listened to this also this morning. It really got my spirits up!

Link

Palin's Emergence | Report to Admin

By Kimberly Helen Hussein Nov 14th 2008 at 10:09 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:09 am EST)

Ambinder reports:

A strategist for a rival potential presidential rival e-mails to express amusement with Gov. Sarah Palin's come one, come all PR strategy:

"Fine with us. Let her be the sacrificial lamb for 2012."

Which means: a lot of the folks who you'd think are angling to run in 2012 are certainly preparing to do so, but they're looking to and thinking about 2016....

BARACK TO MEET JOHN MCCAIN ON MONDAY | Report to Admin

By HSLK: Our Journey Has Just Begun Nov 14th 2008 at 10:11 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:11 am EST)

Link

Talk about inclusive and reaching across party lines!!

Re: BARACK TO MEET JOHN MCCAIN ON MONDAY | Report to Admin

By AZgrammy-"O"-wing Nov 14th 2008 at 10:20 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:20 am EST)

Hope that Barack doesn't offer John the "Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran" guy the Secretary of State job! :)

Re: BARACK TO MEET JOHN MCCAIN ON MONDAY | Report to Admin

By Bon Nov 14th 2008 at 1:43 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:43 pm EST)

RE: Hope that Barack doesn't offer John the "Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran" guy the Secretary of State job! :)

I HIGHLY DOUBT IT!

IF anything, it'll be Climate or Homeland Security.

Re: BARACK TO MEET JOHN MCCAIN ON MONDAY | Report to Admin

By Kimberly Helen Hussein Nov 14th 2008 at 10:27 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:27 am EST)

This is so exciting!

Re: BARACK TO MEET JOHN MCCAIN ON MONDAY | Report to Admin

By Anthony in N.C. Nov 14th 2008 at 10:46 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:46 am EST)

I know a lot of President Elect Obama's critics are eating crow right about now. This man has reached out to his campaign foes to bring about unity and enhance this country's economic and national security stances.

He amazes me with his character and ability to forgive people to put the country first. It sounds like that maybe his theme should have been Change that puts Country First.

Re: BARACK TO MEET JOHN MCCAIN ON MONDAY | Report to Admin

By ♥ Tanya ♥ Nov 14th 2008 at 10:52 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:52 am EST)

So true.

Re: BARACK TO MEET JOHN MCCAIN ON MONDAY | Report to Admin

By ObamaCanada Nov 14th 2008 at 11:03 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:03 am EST)

If you really think about it John McCain would be great as the head of home land security. What a message that would send.

Re: BARACK TO MEET JOHN MCCAIN ON MONDAY | Report to Admin

By ♥ Tanya ♥ Nov 14th 2008 at 11:11 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:11 am EST)

Hmmmm....Good point. Close enough to watch out for the enemy, but just far enough from the "red button" so that he can't reach it! :o)

Re: BARACK TO MEET JOHN MCCAIN ON MONDAY | Report to Admin

By ("AKA")4Obama/Biden"Fired UpinAZ" Nov 14th 2008 at 12:16 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:16 pm EST)

I know we don't want him to close to that darn button. It sounds like our guy will be almost untouchable comes 2012 they can't say that he did not reach across the aisle. I have never heard this happening in any past presidencies they usually have a mostly all Repub cabinet. I love our new president!

Re: BARACK TO MEET JOHN MCCAIN ON MONDAY | Report to Admin

By CHELSEA Nov 15th 2008 at 1:32 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:32 am EST)

Hillary said she would "Obliterate Iran" is that not as bad and hawkish as McCain spouting "Bomb, Bomb, Bomb, Bomb, Iran?"
THINK people, THINK.

SOS | Report to Admin

By JS Nov 14th 2008 at 10:41 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:41 am EST)

Just for the record. I really like Richardson for the job.

I like his policies, he's got the experience and creates 'qualified' cultural diversity.
2nd choice would be John Kerry. He may even deserve the job based solely on his loyalty to the Obama campaign.

PS: I can almost hear critics - 'more of old Clinton administration'. Hogwash. The last Democratic administration before Clinton was 28 years ago. Where else can you find Democrats with White House/federal government experience than via the last Clinton administration?

Re: SOS | Report to Admin

By ♥ Tanya ♥ Nov 14th 2008 at 10:51 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:51 am EST)

Obama is scheduled to meet with McCain and Lindsay Graham on Monday. Link

Re: SOS | Report to Admin

By AZgrammy-"O"-wing Nov 14th 2008 at 11:03 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:03 am EST)

I agree...
James Carville called him a "Judas" when Richardson endorsed Obama.
The other day, old-baldy reiterated that he still feels the same way about Bill Richardson, who really stuck his neck out for endorsing Barack.

Team of Rivals | Report to Admin

By Yvonne--- for World Peace Nov 14th 2008 at 10:44 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:44 am EST)

“I’m a practical-minded guy. And, you know, one of my heroes is Abraham Lincoln. And a while back there was a wonderful book written by Doris Kearns Goodwin called ‘Team of Rivals.” Lincoln basically pulled in all the people who had been running against him into his Cabinet because whatever personal feelings there were, the issue was how can we get this country through this time of crisis. And I think that has to be the approach that one takes, whether it’s vice president or Cabinet, whoever.”– Barack Obama

(I’m headed to Amazon to get this book. Should be an interesting read.)

Re: Team of Rivals | Report to Admin

By ♥ Tanya ♥ Nov 14th 2008 at 10:49 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:49 am EST)

Thanks for that quote, Yvonne -- I was just telling my sis-in-law about this quote of Obama's last night...but couldn't remember exactly how he put it! :o)

What many apparently forget is that any Sec. of State answers to the directive of the Commander-in-Chief.

Re: Team of Rivals | Report to Admin

By Yvonne--- for World Peace Nov 14th 2008 at 10:59 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:59 am EST)

IMO - President-Elect Barack Obama, is doing a superb job of putting his cabinet together!!

I totally trust his judgment. It's not whether he is perfect or not --- the whole system is imperfect- and that's what he has to work with.

Re: Team of Rivals | Report to Admin

By ♥ Tanya ♥ Nov 14th 2008 at 11:09 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:09 am EST)

Yep. I agree completely.

So much has changed... | Report to Admin

By Eomaia Nov 14th 2008 at 10:49 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:49 am EST)

Listening to the Bobby Kennedt story, I couldn't help but think that things have changed so much since then. Now, no child would be allowed to suffer like that. If a family was living in a shack without water or electricity, and not enough food to eat, that would be considered child neglect, so the child would be put into foster care while the parents jumped through hoops to try to get adequate housing, psych evals, lots of counseling, and probably drug testing. Since the primary problem of dire poverty would never be addressed or even acknowledged, the parents would not be likely to manage to achieve the financial security needed to give their children a stable life, at least not in the 15 months allowed by ASFA. So, their parental rights would be terminated, and the children would be free to be adopted by a nice middle-class family.

There has got to be a better way to end child poverty.

Tobin Tax | Report to Admin

By Jade--Who Loves to Decorate Her Latte Cup With Flag Pins! Nov 14th 2008 at 10:56 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:56 am EST)

Anyone know if Barack supports the idea of the Tobin Tax? If he does, it's a good time for him to have his economic advisers consider proposing it to the international community who are pretty ticked off at us for our irresponsible financial regulations. Only an international effort can implement something like the Tobin Tax and the current time is the best time that anyone has had to make a very strong case for the tax. One of the major purposes of the tax is to discourage the type of currency speculation that can destroy a developing country's economy overnight.

The New Democratic Party! We are in transition to making it an Obama lead Party... | Report to Admin

By Ericka for Obama -Change is Good! Nov 14th 2008 at 10:58 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:58 am EST)

Look...We have had 2 democrats in office before President-Elect (I love saying this) Obama since 1972!

Did we really think that there would be only a few Clinton people??? Democrats support their democratic president...that is the pool he has. That is where the talent was. There will be new talent, but of course there will be old...some of us think this is a good thing.

Every leader today in the party was a young Dem under the Clintons...I say give this man a break and let him work his magic. He can only work with what has stepped forward. Just think, in 8 to 16 years it will be all Obama people!!!!

The O Generation is right now being created from our young people. They will grow to power. Change takes time and Obama with all his brilliance has set it in motion. Be the change and encourage your kids to get involved!

Re: The New Democratic Party! We are in transition to making it an Obama lead Party... | Report to Admin

By ♥ Tanya ♥ Nov 14th 2008 at 11:01 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:01 am EST)

GREAT post Ericka!

Re: The New Democratic Party! We are in transition to making it an Obama lead Party... | Report to Admin

By Anthony in N.C. Nov 14th 2008 at 11:06 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:06 am EST)

AMEN!!!!

Re: The New Democratic Party! We are in transition to making it an Obama lead Party... | Report to Admin

By Dinora Nov 14th 2008 at 11:09 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:09 am EST)

Well said Ericka I respecto everybody opinions here but I get tired when people start criticizing our President Obama for every decision he takes, he is not even there and not only he has to deal with the media ready to attack and also some of his own supporters so far Obama has demostrated us he knows what he is doing why doubt he might not be perfect but he is trying to change things we need to give him time. But thats just my two cents on the subject :)

****Kerry for Secretary of State **** | Report to Admin

By New beginning Nov 14th 2008 at 11:06 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:06 am EST)

In my very humble opinion if John Kerry wants this job he should definitely get it because he deserves it. If it had not been for him Obama would not have gotten all the attention he received in 04. Kerry has been a loyal friend to him and I will be so hurt if Barack pick someone else. Thanks for reading.

Re: ****Kerry for Secretary of State **** | Report to Admin

By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 14th 2008 at 11:13 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:13 am EST)

I agree Mirlene!!!

When you voted and worked for Barack.. | Report to Admin

By cindy from tucson Nov 14th 2008 at 11:10 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:10 am EST)

Did you think he was intelligent, wise, a man with a vision and someone you could trust to lead us? What happened to the faith people? I have read this blog for the last few days and I am amazed that so many people feel they know better what to do for the country than our President-elect.
Someone says he needs to know how to graciously win. Who are YOU watching? This person is about as gracious as you could ever find! And he's deliberate. He needs to pick a cabinet and advisers that HE is comfortable with...people who he feels confident will carry out his policies in a way that reflects well on his leadership. I have no doubt he will do that. And, I hope we can all agree to support him in that. Please have patience and faith and support our President-elect...he needs it in these tough times. And so do we!

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By Kimberly Helen Hussein Nov 14th 2008 at 11:20 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:20 am EST)

Too many haters on this blog.

Everyone is a critic..........

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By ("AKA")4Obama/Biden"Fired UpinAZ" Nov 14th 2008 at 12:19 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:19 pm EST)

Cindy, thanks for posting this message we NEED to support our president and his decisions. He led us this far...

Obama gets the Clinton band back together | Report to Admin

By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 14th 2008 at 11:11 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:11 am EST)

Link

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By Suzanne from CT Nov 14th 2008 at 1:41 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:41 pm EST)

Great article. Worth reading. (Title is misleading, it shows how Obama is very selective in his choice of people that had some connection with the Clintons.)

Here we go | Report to Admin

By Carol from Birmingham, AL Nov 14th 2008 at 11:11 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:11 am EST)

Here we go. The leak of Hillary becoming Sec. of State is not so bad. I would have liked to have seen John Kerry in that position. But, Hillary has an international appeal that could prove very very useful and helpful in this administration. We have to take our feelings out of this and take a more pragmatic approach. Let's not start bashing Hillary. Sure, she made us extremely angry during the primaries and said some things that I probably won't every forget. I'm sure PE Obama hasn't forgotten either. He's shrewd and I'm sure he's thought long and hard about this decision (although it hasn't been 100% confirmed). Anyway, if she is offered it, she just may turn it down. I am, however, concerned about his relationship with John Kerry if indeed Hillary is offered and takes this position. He may, perhaps, have something else in the works that we have no clue about. Let's give it a chance before we start the negative reactions about him making "the biggest political blunder of his career".

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By sheilasnewyork Nov 14th 2008 at 11:12 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:12 am EST)

I voted for Bill Clinton twice
Gave Hillary the benefit of the doubt and voted for her as senator of New York

After watching her in this campaign, I vowed not to vote for her again here in New York
and I intend to hold to that

I do not get what is OWED to Hillary

If you turn to the senate and health care, it is THE LION, Ted Kennedy, who wears the crown of achievement and honor

The building of this cabinet with all former Clinton staffers is NOT THE CHANGE WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR!

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By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 14th 2008 at 11:14 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:14 am EST)

I agree Shelia!!!

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By Kimberly Helen Hussein Nov 14th 2008 at 11:18 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:18 am EST)

Barack is an adult and will make adult decisions.

We finally have a Dem in the White House and people are already tearing him apart.....amazing.

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By Anthony in N.C. Nov 14th 2008 at 11:23 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:23 am EST)

Sheila,

It has been 28 years since the last Democratic President prior to President Clinton. President Elect Obama does not have a lot of people to choose from in terms of people with experience. The economic and national security situations are too critical to appoint inexperience people in these key positions.

President Elect Obama will set the tone for change and anyone not willing to change will find themselves out of his administration.

A lot of the so-called Clinton people have or should have learned from their previous mistakes which means the number of mistakes by this administration should far less than the mistakes of people with little or no experience.

Would you have rather for him to select people from the Bush administration?

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By Kimberly Helen Hussein Nov 14th 2008 at 11:32 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:32 am EST)

Well said!

Haters should have voted for Nader if they wanted 'purity'.

Ridiculous!

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By Patrice from Gardena, CA Nov 14th 2008 at 11:42 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:42 am EST)

Ok, you know me and I'm not a hater BUT if I wanted Hillary in the new administration I would have supported her in the beginning. Now I'm not naive and I know politics I'm just personally sadden that he has possibly chosen this route. While I remain loyal and a strong supporter, I personally hopes he makes a different choice.

I believe this was all a deal to secure the Clintons' campaigning for our new president.

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By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 14th 2008 at 11:51 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:51 am EST)

I agree Patrice and that is sad and that is why I have said to me it makes Barack look weak if this is who he is going to choose. I think Barack feels he owes the Clinton's something and I don't think he owes them anything but Thank you for campaigning for me. I pray he makes the right choice!

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By J. Grateful 4 Obama Ohio Nov 14th 2008 at 12:24 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:24 pm EST)

Would you guys quit second guessing Barack. He knows exactly what he is doing. He beat the Clinton machine and he beat the GOP machine--no small feat there. So allow him to make his own decisions. He is an amzing man and politician and he will do what is right and good for our country.

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By No Child Left Behind Nov 14th 2008 at 11:45 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:45 am EST)

While I sympathize with you, Sheila, I must say as one person that did not vote for HRC in the primaries, I believe that she tried to "undo" the damages she did in the primaries. Her campaigning in rural America, particularly in VA, FL, and PA, helped Obama secure solidly the votes he needed to beat McLoss.

That being said, I will have no concern if she is being given the Secretary of State office, knowing full well that Obama will make clear in positions and policies. His camp will underline that too for anyone NOT to forget.

On the issue of building his cabinet with former Clinton staffers, remember that experienced and polished democrats will all have been associated with Bill Clinton's administration, one way or another. Unless one decides to rely on bright but young and somehow "developing" democrat politicians, one is bound to select a few names we've heard before. If not, Obama's entire cabinet will be filled with new and "untested" people, and that is not necessarily good in a new administration. One must balance upcoming, new talents with reliable experienced people.

There is nothing wrong with that as long as Obama is the one calling the shot and can maintain his cabinet in check. And I trust he can do that. We've seen the kind of campaign he ran.

Incidently, the CHANGE WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR should transpire more so in the policies Obama's administration follow or implement and less than in the members of his cabinet. Issues such as access to health care for the majority of the people, less taxes for the middle class, job creations, decrease in foreign oil dependence, steps to reduce global warming, affordable college tuition, rebuilding of infrastructure, enhancing our standing in the world, care for our veterans, attacking the challenges of urban cities, etc., provide the areas for the CHANGE WE NEED.

My 2 cents.

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By No Child Left Behind Nov 14th 2008 at 11:50 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:50 am EST)

Correction:

Obama will make clear HIS positions and policies.

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By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 14th 2008 at 11:55 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:55 am EST)

I disagree with you. There are better people out there for SOS and I pray that Barack makes the right choice!

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By Renee - It's A New Day Nov 14th 2008 at 12:11 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:11 pm EST)

He will make the right choice and it's his decision. I will support him and his transition team as I know whoever he picks, it will be because they believe they are best for the job.

Jeffrey Goldberg on Emanuel: "Israeli Running the White House" | Report to Admin

By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 14th 2008 at 11:12 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:12 am EST)

I thrive on ferreting out the unexamined assumptions of Israel's uncritical supporters. One of them is The Atlantic's Jeffrey Goldberg. Israel Policy Forum just e-mailed me a panel discussion he conducted with Israel's former New York consul general, Alon Pinkas. The sheer chutzpah of Goldberg's statements about Rahm Emanuel took my breath away:

The rumor about Obama's "Jewish problem" was one of the non-stories of the campaign. Approximately 78 percent of the Jews who voted went for Obama. Obviously, they didn't buy it. It is interesting, however, that if you had been able to tell people that "the guy who will be running the White House is essentially an Israeli," it may have quieted some people down.

...Emanuel is emotionally tied to Israel in ways that very few politicians are, and is unyielding on Israel's right to exist.

I've never been taken with the dual loyalty issues that occupy bloggers like Phil Weiss. But Goldberg has just backed into this one with his eyes wide open. Should American Jews feel more comfortable that Rahm Emanuel is "essentially an Israeli" and will therefore do Israel's bidding in the White House? This somehow doesn't make me more comfortable. It makes me queasy.

I don't mind having Israel's perspective represented in policy discussions. But to feel happy that Obama's key aide represents Israel's perspective in his own person -- that's too much for me.

And here now I've been trying to persuade my readers that regardless of Emanuel's views he's going to be subordinate to Obama's views on Israel even if they might disagree with his own. Goldberg comes along and blows my claim right out of the water. Screw chain of command, Emanuel friggin' owns the White House. My God, what a train wreck Goldberg is.

To be fair, Goldberg follows up with this attempt to balance the equation:

...His low tolerance for nonsense and his willingness to get into people's faces should give caution to those who think he will be some sort of "rubber stamp" to all of Israel's policies.

But this statement seems almost an afterthought. The preponderant emphasis is on the first passage and not the second.

cont..

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By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 14th 2008 at 11:15 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:15 am EST)

It's possible that Emanuel is one tough son of a bitch who will be able to face down stubborn Israeli politicians reluctant to concede an inch in compromising with their Palestinian neighbors (and vice versa). If that's the Rahm who runs the White House, then more power to him. But Goldberg here hasn't done him any favors in making it appear that Emanuel will be Israel's point person in the Oval Office.

Hillary | Report to Admin

By Liza from Milpitas Nov 14th 2008 at 11:14 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:14 am EST)

Sorry if this has been posted but a good insight from The Field about this Hillary drama in the media
Link

Nico Pitney BIO Clinton Met With Obama About Role In New Administration | Report to Admin

By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 14th 2008 at 11:16 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:16 am EST)

A Democratic official confirms to the Huffington Post that Sen. Hillary Clinton met with President-elect Barack Obama on Thursday to discuss her role in the new administration.

Clinton's trip to Chicago, described in press reports as "personal business," came following a request from Obama, the official said.

The New York Senator is reportedly under consideration for Secretary of State, but it is unclear whether she had discussed that position with the transition team before making the trip. "If they told her beforehand, she did not tell her people," the official said.

Clinton spokesman Philippe Reines referred questions to the Obama transition team.

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By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 14th 2008 at 11:18 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:18 am EST)

A Democratic official confirms to the Huffington Post that Sen. Hillary Clinton met with President-elect Barack Obama on Thursday to discuss her role in the new administration.

Clinton's trip to Chicago, described in press reports as "personal business," came following a request from Obama, the official said.

The New York Senator is reportedly under consideration for Secretary of State, but it is unclear whether she had discussed that position with the transition team before making the trip. "If they told her beforehand, she did not tell her people," the official said.

Clinton spokesman Philippe Reines referred questions to the Obama transition team.

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By REAL DAVE Nov 14th 2008 at 11:44 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:44 am EST)

Clinton would NOT be the best pick for Secretary of Stare (SOS)

The old Hillary Clinton PRE Campaign Hilary maybe. But Hillary has changed. She has lost the ability to make critical decisions of her own convictions. Her Iraq vote which she knew was wrong at the time but did it anyway. Then would not admit it was a mistake latter. Those are character flaws that would not serve a SOS in an Obama Administration well. Now of course if Obama wants the same level of accomplishments as the current SOS Rice. Oh wait what has Rice accomplished to date ?? My pick is John Kerry as he represents change and he would get things done. Hilary would be great in other positions.

A foot note: Keeping ones Friends close and Enemies even closer are great. But a Powerful SOS Hillary Clinton would be a formidable Democratic campaign rival for 2012. If she stooped as low as she did in the 2008 campaign, what would stop her from running for President 2012 after Obama had given her such a powerful world leader position. That prospect with say maybe an Obama Foreign policy misstep (something most President make).

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By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 14th 2008 at 11:49 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:49 am EST)

I agree Ivan!!

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By SoCalHopeMonger Nov 14th 2008 at 11:59 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:59 am EST)

I agree. I don't have a problem with her having a position in the administration, maybe as Attorney General, but she is not the most qualified person to be secretary of state. I really hope the media is just playing this up so they have something to talk about.

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By marytnurse, supporting Barack Obama until I see his library built on donations from We The People Nov 14th 2008 at 11:32 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:32 am EST)

hello all. hope all are well.

i just found this Link about sexism from HuffPo from FAIR ( Link ).

the format of how things post on the blog since the last transition are incredibly discouraging to me, it's very difficult to have a conversation, since i have to wait 10 minutes for my comment to post, let alone for anyone else to see it and respond....i just get too frustrated (and too busy catching up) to stay for long. but i come back and see who has responded and what is going on without posting often. thanks to all who have the patience to post!!!

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By ◎Desert Dove Dan◎ Nov 14th 2008 at 11:50 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:50 am EST)

I hear you Mary. There will probably have to be more revisions to the website to maybe incorporate a "chat room" section for those that want to have more conversational type discussions. I definitely miss that feeling we had blogging back in the day.

We Cannot Turn Back | Report to Admin

By Neva Nov 14th 2008 at 11:36 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:36 am EST)

Indeed!! We Cannot Turn Back!!

Including Hillary Clinton in your administration would be turning back, BIG TIME.

Please, Barack Obama, keep your promises, the first one being CHANGE.

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By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 14th 2008 at 11:43 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:43 am EST)

I agree!!

That is just more of the same!

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By Czarina rhiannon hussein aka le chat Nov 14th 2008 at 11:38 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:38 am EST)

I left town Sunday at which time everyone (except the trolls) was very happy!! Obama won! Yippeeee! I return today to find a bunch of grumblers. I don't particularly want Hillary selected but 1) we don't even know that she is really being considered and 2) I trust Barack to make decisions carefully, knowing and considering things I am not aware of. We elected him, we must now trust him. I do. Completely. He is trying to put together coalitions that will help us get out of the terrible mess(es) we are currently experiencing. We should support him and hold his back, not whine and complain. Please, folks, remember how hard we worked for this and continue to support Barack. Everyone needs to pull on this rope.

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By Cilla...Currently living in Spain and lovin' it Nov 14th 2008 at 11:42 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:42 am EST)

I so agree!!!

Why is this meeting not being discussed:

Link

Seems as though THIS IS THE ONE TO LOOK AT!!!!

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By SoCalHopeMonger Nov 14th 2008 at 12:01 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:01 pm EST)

Barack has said many times that he wants to hear from us when we agree and even more when we disagree. I think this kind of discussion is healthy. I may disagree with HRC as Secretary of State, but if Barack chooses her I will respect his decision and will continue to support him.

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By Czarina rhiannon hussein aka le chat Nov 14th 2008 at 12:04 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:04 pm EST)

I agree that it is healthy if offered in the right spirit, not if a decision we don't like is a game-breaker. So you and I are in agreement.

"Truisms" | Report to Admin

By Devawn Nov 14th 2008 at 11:41 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:41 am EST)

My Mom has always told me things eventually, "come out in the wash." A special way of saying things will work out in the end. She is a special woman.

I misplaced my Virginia State Obama clip and have been just sick about it. Today, it came out in the wash - literally still attached to the last T-shirt I had put it on weeks ago. It's a good sign.

So far I hear of plans to close Guantanimo, I see close attention to the economy and deliberate speed to make good decisions.

YES, ADAM, BARACK OBAMA IS THE REAL DEAL!

There's much work to do - PLEASE HELP FEED THE POOR right here in Appalachia and the rest of America, for a start.

Together, we have started the ball rolling! Lets get about Healthcare! Renewable Energy creating infrastructure JOBS....Hey, lets learn to build windmills at some of those auto plants.....

So much promise, so much HAPPINESS in the country...it feels better already!

DO

Via Andrea Mitchell? Hmmmm...... | Report to Admin

By ✰TXRealtor✰ Nov 14th 2008 at 11:42 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:42 am EST)

You know, guys, I tend to take anything Andrea Mitchell has to say concerning Hillary with a grain of salt. Perhaps my opinion would be different if Andrea and her husband Alan Greenspan weren't such close and life-long friends of the Clintons.
In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if "her sources" (wink, wink) were actually Bill & Hillary, themselves.
Did any of you notice how she squirmed in her seat during the Rachel Maddow interview with her last night? She looked as if she'd been caught with her hand in the cookie jar.

Having said that, I trust our President-Elect's judgement. And even though I hope with all my heart that his Secy of State is NOT Hillary Clinton, I'll support his choice (and at the same time...keep my eye on her).

While I appreciate the campaign efforts of Hillary & Bill Clinton, let's face it...they enjoyed every single minute of the spotlight.
Quite honestly, I wish she would go away. Not go away mad....just go away!

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By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 14th 2008 at 11:46 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:46 am EST)

I agree with most of what you said Doleatha!

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By ("AKA")4Obama/Biden"Fired UpinAZ" Nov 14th 2008 at 12:12 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:12 pm EST)

I agree-I will support our Presidents choice. He is a smart guy and will do what's right for the country. And like a post I read down thread comes 2012 we need another 4 years of BO so we need to play the field with fairness but at the same time caution. The mess in Washington will not be fixed over night and we will be lucky to see drastic changes after his first term. We have more problems that meets the eye the Bush admin will save the best for last and then…blame it all on BO and the Dems so lets not be to hasty ruling out HC. She may not be the best choice…but she certainly is not Sarah Palin…that’s when you want to start screaming.

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By Just another Dreamer (Jersey Girl ) Nov 14th 2008 at 11:45 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:45 am EST)

regarding HRC for SOS and the so called Clinton people in PE Obama's WH. If you remember at one of the debates when Barack told Hillary "I look forward to you advising me to" that comment was made because Hillary refered to the advisors working with Barack's campaign some were from BC cabinets. Why are we now so surprised and so what these people worked for the Clinton's are they forever banished from political life.

I don't know what PE Obama is going to do with his cabinet positions my only hope is that they are extemely smart and talented and will do everything in their power to bring this country out of the hell hole we are in.

Sorry for the rant but these threads lately are depressing MSM talking head pundits speak and things get crazy here.

Peace

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By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 14th 2008 at 11:58 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:58 am EST)

Well Carol we all have our own opinions that is what makes us unique. Hillary is not the right choice for SOS.

Hillary Clinton Cannot Be Trusted!! | Report to Admin

By Rhonda for Barack Obama in Montgomery, Alabama Nov 14th 2008 at 11:47 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:47 am EST)

Barack can choose somebody BETTER that Clinton as Sec. of State

Hillary Clinton will NOT be a good Choice for Secretary of State. NO!! NO!! NO!! Hillary is more in line with Republican War policies.

There has not been an American War that Hillary was against. She voted for the Bush Doctrine to use force against IRAN. Hillary said that she would “Obliterate” IRAN if it attacked Israel. She voted for the Iraq War without reading the resolution. The Middle-Eastern countries are not going to negotiate with her and she would not know how to negotiate with them. I do not believe that Hillary knows that much about foreign policy. I think her toughness is an act.

I know that she helped us on the campaign trail but Hillary has alternative motives. She is Power Hungry. Her ego is Large. I do not believe that Hillary will accept being Barack’s Number 3 behind Biden.

I hope that Barack does NOT choose her.

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By Cilla...Currently living in Spain and lovin' it Nov 14th 2008 at 11:59 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:59 am EST)

I tend to think it WON'T be Hillary Clinton for SOS.

He will need STRONG people in the Senate to get Barack Obama's agenda through!

PE OBAMA is also meeting with John McCain on Monday... SO WHY NO CONVERSATION OR HAND WRINGING about that meeting????

GEE,Where is Sarah Palin???? SEE how QUICK the conversation can change within a minute??

Relax, Barack Obama is a smart man and he will select the BEST people for his cabinet.

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By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 14th 2008 at 11:59 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:59 am EST)

I agree Rhonda 100%!!!

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By Libertarian , antiwar, supporter of Obama Nov 14th 2008 at 12:03 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:03 pm EST)

Call me cynical, but does anybody besides me think that she received a deal? I suspect that in order to get her support for Obama, she was offered a position in his cabinet. Otherwise, I really can't picture her and Bill supporting him if there was nothing in it for her. I believe that she and Bill would have worked behind the scenes to get Obama defeated and keep her hopes of getting elected president in 2012 alive unless she was offered a position on Obama's cabinet.

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By Neva Nov 14th 2008 at 12:16 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:16 pm EST)

I believe Hillary campaigned for Obama at the eleventh hour for one of the following reasons:

1) Cabinet post.

2) Last minute attempt to revamp standing in party for next move: senate, governor, whatever.

3) It would have been too much for her to bear if Sarah Palin had been successful on a presidential ticket before she was.

Anyone who has followed Hillary Clinton closely over the years knows she never does anything for anyone but herself.

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By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 14th 2008 at 12:34 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:34 pm EST)

I agree. That is why I have said Barack feels he owes the Clinton's something in which I don't think he owes them anything but Thank you for campaigning for me.

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By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 14th 2008 at 12:32 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:32 pm EST)

Good points Herb!

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By No Child Left Behind Nov 14th 2008 at 12:41 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:41 pm EST)

I humbly disagree with you.

Mrs. Clinton is a good choice. She has proven to be a formidable supporter of Obama during the last weeks of this long campaign. She went to places and "un-did" the damages done in the primaries. Places like FL, PA and VA were solidly won with her help.

Not that I was a fan of hers, but credit should be given where it's due. I would caution also that we take the lead from Obama's example and try to put divisiveness behind us. Let's remain united to attack the great challenges ahead, and Obama's 2012 reelection is one among many and not too far if you ask me.

Our opponents are getting ready for the next general elections, we should do the same.

Now, one person that should not come around the White House or 50 miles away from any cabinet position is certain Sarah Palin! When I think that we were "one heartbeat away" from disaster to happen, I thank God every day!

Obama/Biden and all his cabinet 2008 & 2012!

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By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 14th 2008 at 11:06 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:06 pm EST)

Hillary would be a bad choice for SOS!

Obama's Transparent Presidency | Report to Admin

By ♥ dreamweaver "Grab A Mop" ♥ aka Vicki from Iowa Nov 14th 2008 at 11:56 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:56 am EST)

Obama's Transparent Presidency: Weekly YouTube Addresses
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By CNN (corrupt news network) loves corrupt policiticians and lobbyists. Nov 14th 2008 at 12:00 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:00 pm EST)

There are a few advantages with Hillary as SOS.

18million will vote again for Obama in 2012.

Bill and Hillary have realized the mistakes they have made when they were in the WH.

Hillary wont be jealous of Rahm and other clinton people.

Obama owes a little to hillary votes from PA, FL and OH. Palin wont get any from 18 mil cracks.

Obama will make Hillary, start taking accountability.

Hillary has a chance to go back and fix some of her mess that she made for the white and blue collar jobs....revisit NAFTA and take responsibility.

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By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 14th 2008 at 12:05 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:05 pm EST)

Hillary will not be a good choice for Barack as SOS. I will pick Kerry over Hillary anytime!!

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By ♥ dreamweaver "Grab A Mop" ♥ aka Vicki from Iowa Nov 14th 2008 at 12:10 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:10 pm EST)

Sorry not yours to pick.

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By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 14th 2008 at 12:36 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:36 pm EST)

But it's my opinion to voice and that is what I'm doing. Just remember one thing if it was not for the People and by the people Barack would have not won!!

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By ♥ dreamweaver "Grab A Mop" ♥ aka Vicki from Iowa Nov 14th 2008 at 1:13 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:13 pm EST)

Not yours to pick is not an opinion, it is a fact. Darn those old facts.

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By ♥ dreamweaver "Grab A Mop" ♥ aka Vicki from Iowa Nov 14th 2008 at 12:13 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:13 pm EST)

Sorry not yours to pick.

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By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 14th 2008 at 12:36 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:36 pm EST)

But it's my opinion to voice and that is what I'm doing. Just remember one thing if it was not for the People and by the people Barack would have not won!!

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By ♥ dreamweaver "Grab A Mop" ♥ aka Vicki from Iowa Nov 14th 2008 at 1:07 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:07 pm EST)

Not yours to pick is not an opinion, it is a fact. Darn those old facts.

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By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 14th 2008 at 2:44 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:44 pm EST)

Vicki all I have to say is
LALALALALALALALALALALALALA

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By CNN (corrupt news network) loves corrupt policiticians and lobbyists. Nov 14th 2008 at 12:15 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:15 pm EST)

Michelle Obama and Susan Axelrod are friends with Hillary too.

The Future of Our Community | Report to Admin

By Charles from New York Nov 14th 2008 at 12:01 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:01 pm EST)

The LA Times has posted a fascinating report on our future at Link . The story reports that as the Obama team and we move into the process of actual governance, the appropriate role our own community can play in that is being very seriously discussed at this time.

Basically two visions have emerged:

1) We are an active grassroots electoral force. Barack Obama, as the new de facto head of the Democratic party, needs to call on us to engage in the process of building an electoral force in Washington which can support and implement his plans for the nation. To that end, our community needs to join forces with the large and active groups within the Democratic party fighting to defeat Republican control not only in Washington but across the length and breadth of this nation.

2) We are an active grassroots political force. Barack Obama, as the new president of the United States, needs to call on us to engage in the process of building and implementing the change agenda which he has promised to make reality for this nation. To that end, our community needs to organize, lobby, publicize, advocate and fight for the crafting and passage of that agenda not only in the halls of Congress in Washington but in state and local venues throughout our nation as well.

It is a fascinating debate, and one in which I believe we need to engage as well.

Perhaps the obvious answer is that we might be able to do both. Perhaps we should even formally split into two groups, electoral and political/policy.

What do you all think? I have a feeling this is a discussion we can have which the Obama team might find of particular interest to read.

For what it's worth, I lean somewhat toward the latter vision.

Thank you for your attention and consideration.

Yes, we can,

Charles

Re: The Future of Our Community | Report to Admin

By Dinora Nov 14th 2008 at 12:24 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:24 pm EST)

Charles thank you for your post very informative last night I saw one of the team coordinators and ask her what next how we will continue our movement for what I heard many groups are already getting involved in community projects such as helping the homeless and collecting food for those in need. So is good to hear that many people have taken steps to continue doing our job and we all waiting to hear what our president want us to do, but in the mean time so many have taking the job to do so by themselfs it feels so good to part of this incredible grassroot movement.

Jeez, there's so many Secretary of Defense experts on the blog today | Report to Admin

By rich Nov 14th 2008 at 12:04 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:04 pm EST)

Jeez, there's so many Secretary of Defense experts on the blog today ...

... telling President-elect Obama who to pick or who NOT to pick.

Like someone, holding up a ...

Link

Re: Jeez, there's so many Secretary of Defense experts on the blog today | Report to Admin

By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 14th 2008 at 12:08 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:08 pm EST)

Well Richard we all have a right to our opinions.

The choice is Barack's but we have a right to state our objections. The Government is for the people and by the people and we do have voice in this process.

Re: Jeez, there's so many Secretary of Defense experts on the blog today | Report to Admin

By rich Nov 14th 2008 at 12:19 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:19 pm EST)

"The Government is for the people and by the people"

Yes, you are right and I was wrong not to have ever thunk that.

You should contact the publisher of Bartlett's on that amazing phrase/quote you just invented.

It's a quote right up there with other quotable masters.

Re: Jeez, there's so many Secretary of Defense experts on the blog today | Report to Admin

By Patrice from Gardena, CA Nov 14th 2008 at 12:14 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:14 pm EST)

I'm not sure who he should ask. I just think he should reward those that have support him when it wasn't that popular.

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By Tammi King -No nonsence we know who we need to elect Nov 14th 2008 at 12:30 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:30 pm EST)

So none of the HRC suporters should have voted for Barck with your thoery, only if you supported so you get a reward. Wow narrow thinking that is not what he is about. Thats not change you speaking of that is much of the same.

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By ♥ dreamweaver "Grab A Mop" ♥ aka Vicki from Iowa Nov 14th 2008 at 1:20 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:20 pm EST)

Yes Tammi where in the world would we be without the Clinton supporters. I doubt if we would be celebrating.

I have been a Barack supporter since 2004 but I am not naive enough to think he could have won without the Clinton support and supporters.

Hugs, Vicki

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By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 14th 2008 at 12:37 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:37 pm EST)

Good point Patrice!!

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By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 14th 2008 at 12:39 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:39 pm EST)

I hope I understood you correctly Patrice. Maybe you should explain what you meant by your statement.

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By meg Nov 14th 2008 at 1:19 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:19 pm EST)

Highly sensitive, responsible positions of leadership should not be rewards for loyalty. They should go to whoever can best do the job, under Obama's dir4ection and as part of his team.

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By ("AKA")4Obama/Biden"Fired UpinAZ" Nov 14th 2008 at 12:23 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:23 pm EST)

LOL!

Don't bother calling me a "hater" or "troll" | Report to Admin

By Patrice from Gardena, CA Nov 14th 2008 at 12:10 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:10 pm EST)

Don't bother because to many of you all know me. But today I'm going to speak my mind. Now I support our president elect/and vice president. I know this transistion will be difficult yet well thought out and I will respect the choices Barack/Joe will make.

BUT

I am not a HRC fan and I make no apologies for that. I realize she's smart, intelligent and has enormous respect in the international community.

But I hope Barack considers the individuals that "truly" stood by him. Remember, had it not been for John Kerry, he would not have had the national attention he recieved in 2004 at the convention. It was John Kerry that gave him the opportunity to present that incrediable keynote speech. This is not to say that Barack owes him or Bill Richardson. But these are the individuals I would like to see rewarded.These are the indivudals that said from the onset that Barack could and should be president. Both of these men, including Teddy Kennedy came out and supported Barack when it wasn't that popular.

Now if I remember correctly it was HRC that said, "Barack gives good speeches, John McCain and I are ready to be president". Now while I know someone else would have eventually brought up Bill Ayers, Hillary managed to be the first. She gave the Republicans many of thier the negative talking points;she lead the charge.

SO, at the end of the day, I realize it's nothing more than politics. I'm just personally sadden by the narrow road it sometimes takes.

Forever a Obama/Biden supporter no matter who he picks for Secretary of State.

Re: Don't bother calling me a "hater" or "troll" | Report to Admin

By Renee - It's A New Day Nov 14th 2008 at 12:16 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:16 pm EST)

I encourage all of you to read about Lincoln, Obama's hero. His policy was to keep his enemies as close as possible. She's not an enemy but I think you will find that he will make some similar decisions.

I haven't been on for awhile and am getting back off. I choose to relish in this victory and know that whoever Obama picks for any position in his cabinet will serve at HIS will, not their own. I also know they will do due diligence to pick the right person and they have my full backing and support.

I understand that HRC brings out the worst and the best in some. I thank her for all she did after her concession to help get Obama elected. She did over 100 events for him.

The decision is his and his transition team. My thoughts and prayers are with them all as they make very difficult decisions.

CIAO! Off to help Martin get elected for Senate.

Re: Don't bother calling me a "hater" or "troll" | Report to Admin

By ♥ dreamweaver "Grab A Mop" ♥ aka Vicki from Iowa Nov 14th 2008 at 12:21 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:21 pm EST)

Come back soon Renee, we need your voice of reason!

Hugs, Vicki

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By Trueblue Nov 14th 2008 at 12:32 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:32 pm EST)

All I know is HRC is loyal.loyal and loyal and I think once she's decided to back someone, it's a 101%. I wasn't thrilled with HRC becoming President or her remarks/actions but it was a presidential bid, she rallied round and now, it's time to move on. I think this is just pressure from the groups on President Obama.(sorry, it's just so long- to write "President-elect" Obama)

Having said that, I wonder what President Obama is going to talk with Senator McCain about? Senator McCain's concession speech was one of the classiest I've ever heard.Kudos to John McCain!!

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By CNN (corrupt news network) loves corrupt policiticians and lobbyists. Nov 14th 2008 at 12:37 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:37 pm EST)

Yes, i have no problem with Hillary anymore. We won FL,PA,OH because of her. She will not lobby nomore i hope. she wont back stab nomore i hope.

democrats will be unbeatable in 2012.

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By meg Nov 14th 2008 at 1:24 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:24 pm EST)

I am very grateful for Hillary's support of Obama during the general election. However I am not aware of any evidence that she influenced our win decisively in certain states.

In-fighting? No thank you. | Report to Admin

By April Nov 14th 2008 at 12:19 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:19 pm EST)

Alot of this "in-fighting" about who is selected as Obama's Cabinet is completely off topic to the original post...and LOOK at those most important of the TWO WORDS - OBAMA'S CABINET! - for someone like myself, still enjoying the unfolding story of victory that we are ALL a part of, those two words alone give me more reason to be grateful than to start second guessing the decision we've made in electing Obama. It's like some people are just waiting on their chance to criticize and fall back into cynicism. I say screw that. Let Obama pick whatever cabinet he wants, because he was right to say this wasn't/isn't about him, it's about US. So what if Clinton is selected as S.o.S.? What am I (BIG CAPITAL IIIII) going to do now to be a part of the change I wish to see in the world? How am I going to keep hope alive in my own life? How am I going to be the best parent, best consumer, best citizen, best PARTNER in this deal called DEMOCRACY? United we stand, divided we fall.

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By ♥ dreamweaver "Grab A Mop" ♥ aka Vicki from Iowa Nov 14th 2008 at 12:25 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:25 pm EST)

A SALUTE to you April.

Hugs, Vicki

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By ("AKA")4Obama/Biden"Fired UpinAZ" Nov 14th 2008 at 12:25 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:25 pm EST)

April good comment! It's Obama's cabinet-yes it is.

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By J. Grateful 4 Obama Ohio Nov 14th 2008 at 12:27 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:27 pm EST)

Thank you April.

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By April Nov 14th 2008 at 12:36 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:36 pm EST)

As to the original video "We can not turn back" I woke up last Wednesday morning and stopped to think about what I was going to eat...a little back story; I am over-weight and have a few health problems...because I wanted to be a better person. I've always LOVED what this country was founded on, but I never felt like it BELONGS to me. Not until I became an Obama supporter. His words speak directly to my heart and soul, his voice gives voice to my voice. To what I know to be true and right but could not articulate as gracefully as he has. So I stood up and took action to accept responsibility for what is mine - and it's yours, too - so I'm just reflecting lately on how to take ownership not just of my citizenship, but also my life. And I can not, and will not, turn back now. I've come too far for that I hope. For that, I hope.

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By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 14th 2008 at 12:42 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:42 pm EST)

It's Obama's Cabinet but it the people's voices that will be heard.

Trust President-elect Barack OBAMA to make the right Decisions!!! | Report to Admin

By ♥♪Ben, a true evangelical for OBAMA; For PUBLIC OPTION♪♥ Nov 14th 2008 at 12:29 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:29 pm EST)

Don't be anxious folks...

We, the American People, just won.

Trust our Leader, Barack OBAMA.

GOD has truly given him HIS WISDOM.

We may not see it right away, but Barack OBAMA has proven many of us wrong during the almost 2 years campaign.

So please be at peace and stay prayerful...

Dear LORD, continue to give Barack OBAMA YOUR Divine WISDOM as he is appointing the members of his administration.

We believe that the best days of the United States of America are ahead of us.
We believe that YOU, Heavenly Father, will do exceedingly, abundantly and far above what we can ever ask or think in the Name of JESUS!!!

We believe that NO weapon formed against Barack OBAMA will prosper and that every tongue that rises against him shall be condemned in the Name of JESUS!!!

May YOU Bless the United States of American.

In the Mighty Name of JESUS Amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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By April Nov 14th 2008 at 12:38 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:38 pm EST)

Amen. And so it is. (That's what we add at my church)

Can we take a break from the media | Report to Admin

By Dinora Nov 14th 2008 at 12:35 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:35 pm EST)

Can we take a break from the media and enjoy our victory something that nobody can take away from us we all have work hard and we did it. Lets continue our celebration with positives comments I now everyone is free to voice their own opinion but please lets keep it down and wait to hear the official confirmation. When we start arguing about something that the media is saying we are falling in their game than we are no different than those people that believe the media saying that President Obama was not born here and so on.

I'm not pointing fingers at no one just want us to have a good time and keep celebrating our hard work lol in a way I'm glad is over I finally had time to clean my closet and wash my close. Keep on smiling my O family and lets keep on working together in any way we can.

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By Lace; Yes We Did Nov 14th 2008 at 12:49 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:49 pm EST)

a-freaking-men to that!

The media is trying to cause a fight within the democratic party!! And quite frankly, personally, I wouldn't mind Hillary. Maybe this would help her to be a viable candidate next time . . .

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By aint gonna work on maggie's farm in MA, USA Nov 14th 2008 at 1:28 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:28 pm EST)

This morning I was half-asleep making my coffee and had the news on the radio and the announcer said " ... President-Elect Obama ..." and I was like WOW I forgot, it's true! More than a week after the election and each time I hear it I'm instantly elated. again and again.

thanks everybody.

MId Morning Music | Report to Admin

By ◎Desert Dove Dan◎ Nov 14th 2008 at 12:42 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:42 pm EST)

Barack Obama - One Time

Link

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By Dinora Nov 14th 2008 at 12:47 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:47 pm EST)

Love it, love it thank you Dan it lift my spirit we did it and yes we can :)

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By Dinora Nov 14th 2008 at 12:49 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:49 pm EST)

Dan did you got my pic for the project let me know if not I'll send it to you again can wait to see the video.

secretary hillary? | Report to Admin

By Snucky Nov 14th 2008 at 12:43 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:43 pm EST)

i know it is rumor hillary being secretary of state but i hope it is true. as a former hillary support i think she can help heal the mistrust of the world of our policies.

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By Gena from York, AL Nov 14th 2008 at 12:50 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:50 pm EST)

I agree... Hillary for Secretary of State... PLEASE!!!!!!!!!

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By Straighttalker Nov 14th 2008 at 12:44 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:44 pm EST)

I sincerely hope this is a rumour started by the same Hillaryphiles who touted her as VEEP. Barack
needs to nip this in the bud by announcing his choice. Chuck Hagel, hopefully.

Re: Hillary Clinton | Report to Admin

By Snucky Nov 14th 2008 at 12:48 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:48 pm EST)

i find it amazing after the election we still have people attacking hillary and to affect her former supporters. can we stop the sniping and support obama's choice if it is indeed hillary? amazing.

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By Straighttalker Nov 14th 2008 at 2:14 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:14 pm EST)

I shouldn’t worry about the sniping. She’s an expert at dodging it. It started in Kosovo!

Re: Hillary Clinton | Report to Admin

By Straighttalker Nov 14th 2008 at 2:14 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:14 pm EST)

I shouldn’t worry about the sniping. She’s an expert at dodging it. It started in Kosovo!

Re: Hillary Clinton | Report to Admin

By Snucky Nov 14th 2008 at 12:50 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:50 pm EST)

there are just certain people here who just can't get over their hatred of hillary. what are going to do if obama picks hillary, go sign up as republicans for palin 2012?

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By Kimberly Helen Hussein Nov 14th 2008 at 1:27 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:27 pm EST)

I'm embarrassed by the hate that's being spewed by some Obama supporters.

He isn't even in office yet.

You make a good point. Are the people who bail on Obama for choosing HRC gonna vote Republican in 2012? Or just sit out? Even if he delivers on his policy promises?

People need to chillax.

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By Anne in London Nov 14th 2008 at 2:17 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:17 pm EST)

I don't hate Hillary. I have a lot of admiration for many of the things she has achieved and stands for.

I am also deeply grateful for the heroic campaigning she did for Obama, and for the enormous contribution she made thereby to his/our victory. She is a wonderful woman in many ways. (She ran a dreadful campaign, with so many of the trademarks of the last 20 absymal and shameful years in American politics - but even so ...)

I just don't think she'd make a great Secretary of State.

*****Watch Congress***** | Report to Admin

By Barbara"Hussein-fistbump" BaRock-O-Biden Nov 14th 2008 at 12:45 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:45 pm EST)

Good afternoon Obamaland.

Is everybody watching Cspan? They are covering the hearing on the Mortgage Issue.

So far, its been a heating emotional hearing. WOW!

Lets ensure to keep an eye on congress.

((fist bump))

Hillary for Sec State | Report to Admin

By Gena from York, AL Nov 14th 2008 at 12:47 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:47 pm EST)

I've been waiting to add this comment for so long... Hillary for Secretary of State... PLEASE!!!

Too funny | Report to Admin

By Tina in Cali Nov 14th 2008 at 12:52 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:52 pm EST)

This topic about Hillary or whoever else Obama may or may not pick is too funny. In the end the only thing thats going to matter to the majority of Americans is "RESULTS". So you can like the cabinet or hate the cabinet. If in four years he produces the right results he will be praised and re-elected if not, we all know what's going to happen. I believe right now Obama is results oriented, he's not out for popularity anymore. He has four years to win back all the "deal breaker" people.

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By Rene-who chooses to HopeNotHype ....Hype Got us Into This Mess but Hope will Bring Us Out... Nov 14th 2008 at 12:59 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:59 pm EST)

You make a lot of sense Tina....

Hello, all...

Please check out my good health tip post...it relates to the chatter going on here...

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By Bradley from Midlothian, VA Nov 14th 2008 at 1:02 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:02 pm EST)

So far the results are negative of Senator Obama. He has declared that the ban on aid to pay for over seas abortions willbe lifted. I do not want this with my tax dollars. Also, he said be would sign a ban to disallow oil from being explored and drilled in Utah. Senator Obama does not understand that we need to increase our own domestic production if we are to keep oil prices down.

He simply does not understand the law of supply and demand.

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By Julie from HI Nov 14th 2008 at 1:16 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:16 pm EST)

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

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By Suzanne from CT Nov 14th 2008 at 1:16 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:16 pm EST)

Here comes the troll ...

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By Lace; Yes We Did Nov 14th 2008 at 1:19 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:19 pm EST)

. . . stocking stuffed with coal

(okay, that was lame lol)

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By WELCOME TO THE WHITE HOUSE MR. PRESIDENT!!! Nov 14th 2008 at 1:17 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:17 pm EST)

Bradley from Midlothian, VA it is not surprising a troll would see everything about our new president as negative

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By Rene-who chooses to HopeNotHype ....Hype Got us Into This Mess but Hope will Bring Us Out... Nov 14th 2008 at 1:20 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:20 pm EST)

Bradley, et al,

have you considered preparing yourself to run for office? It seems that so many are expressing feelings that PE Obama really doesn't know what he's doing...so, I just wonder if some of you may want to prepare yourselves to take the beating that he's taken in order to see if he can help to bring our Nation's Standards back up...

Show those of us who aren't complaining what you're made of so that we can determine whether your ideology has weight or not.......

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By Barbara"Hussein-fistbump" BaRock-O-Biden Nov 14th 2008 at 1:37 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:37 pm EST)

Rene, I agree with you. I alway ask the question of why these haters never enter the race themselves since they have all the answers and great ideas of how things should be done.

We should see many many more names in the game in four yrs.

But I doubt it. Just haters thats all. IMHO

Geez, whats todays date? The man isnt even in the White House yet, and already people are complaining about how bad he is doing as POTUS. Pathetic.

Where was the outcry over the past 8yrs.?

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By Barbara"Hussein-fistbump" BaRock-O-Biden Nov 14th 2008 at 1:31 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:31 pm EST)

Everybody has a right to their own opinion.

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By Bon Nov 14th 2008 at 1:51 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:51 pm EST)

re: . Senator Obama does not understand that we need to increase our own domestic production if we are to keep oil prices down.

Brad,

You're back? OY!

Yes we can increase domestic production but it doesn't have to be in places like Utah's Arches and Canyonlands National Parks and the Nine Mile Canyon, ANWR and the like.

There's plenty of places to "drill, baby, drill" without damaging these areas.

In fact, there have been plenty of contracts issued in other areas where nothing is happening. I say, we pull back those contracts if they don't start exploring those lands.

Good Health Tip: Avoid or Overcome Cynicism which can lead to Bitterness... | Report to Admin

By Rene-who chooses to HopeNotHype ....Hype Got us Into This Mess but Hope will Bring Us Out... Nov 14th 2008 at 12:55 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:55 pm EST)

Definitions:

GOOD HEALTH

the state of being vigorous and free from bodily or mental disease

CYNICISM - cynical disposition, character, or belief........

1. Believing or showing the belief that people are motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; skeptical of the motives of others: a cynical dismissal of the politician's promise to reform the campaign finance system.

2. Selfishly or callously calculating: showed a cynical disregard for the safety of his troops in his efforts to advance his reputation.

3. Negative or pessimistic, as from world-weariness: a cynical view of the average voter's intelligence.

BITTERNESS

1. having a harsh, disagreeably acrid taste, like that of aspirin, quinine, wormwood, or aloes.

2. producing one of the four basic taste sensations; not sour, sweet, or salt.

3. hard to bear; grievous; distressful: a bitter sorrow.

4. causing pain; piercing; stinging: a bitter chill.

5. characterized by intense antagonism or hostility: bitter hatred.

6. hard to admit or accept: a bitter lesson.

7. resentful or cynical: bitter words.

This network has been known to be the place to come to get away from such, with even the opposition coming here for some relief; however, now I'm seeing the same here that can be found anywhere any day, any time. We as a group of individuals are better than that..we have typically been a more radiant group. I know radiance is how we can help Barack and team, ourselves and anyone else in the midst of such tumultuous times.

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By Beth from Albany Oregon Nov 14th 2008 at 2:06 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:06 pm EST)

I had not seen your post before I posted mine on this subject, so I am glad to see, I am not the only one trying to promote ObamaCANS positiveness. Let's you and me, get all of them back on board before it is too late and all of our around the world ObamaCANS including our military soldiers even give up hope!!

Thank you.

Truth in “bail out” act . . . . yea, right! | Report to Admin

By Beth from Albany Oregon Nov 14th 2008 at 12:58 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:58 pm EST)

I have been watching “bail out hearing interrogating one of Poulsen’s cronies, and after an hour the last question by Kucinich Dennis Rep Ohio-(D), to this scapegoat was “We don’t doubt that you are working hard, our question is who are working for!!

I watched the whole interrogation by the congress committee overseeing the “bail out” and let me tell you, these committee people are “pissed.” And that is an understatement. On the committee were both Democrats and Republicans. They accused this guy that Poulson and everyone he is surrounded with have completely ignored I believe section 109 of the bail out that specifically governs the extensive amount of effort those cronies were suppose to be doing to help ALL homeowners at risk, not giving money to any old bank to do as they choose because those banks are NOT being regulated, so they are NOT doing what they are suppose to be doing.

I was so surprised that the discussion of how this so called trickle down effect WAS NOT WORKING so the interrogation was why they were not following the spirit of the bill, let alone the one section of the bill that is specifically to help those who are at the bottom of the trickle. One comment was that they felt that Poulson just took a “pair of sizzors” and cut around the section and crumpled it up and threw it away.

Today I am proud of my congress – at least those few on that committee – heads are going to roll,. Something that was stated that I had only suspected yesterday is that Poulson has 3 BILLION in hedge funds he will be taking with him!!! And they are complaining about the CEO bonuses? Let’s see, I think that would be the biggest “bonus” the person in charge of taxpayer money, overseeing the CEO bonus club that he must be the chairman of.

OK, remember what Pres-elect Obama said about every citizen being involved in our Govern(or lack thereof)ment? I think it is time to divvy up our responsibility. I know there is enough of us to be the watchdogs of each of our senators and representatives, but we also need to be watching the so called overseers! Hello?

Continued next post . . . .

Continued: Truth in “bail out” act . . . . yea, right! | Report to Admin

By Beth from Albany Oregon Nov 14th 2008 at 1:00 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:00 pm EST)

…Continues from previous Post

How stupid does Poulsen think Americans, congressman, the world think we are? If he leaves his position with that 3 billion, I say let’s get an attorney that represents all taxpayers and sue the “big bad word inserted here” and have him pay all that so called hedge money into the bail out pool.

Although I feel so good about what I watched . . . I am so angry!!

The Rep fro Baltimore really nailed it on the head when he said to this crony when you leave I want you to think about those million plus Americans that don’t have jobs, that are losing their homes and cars, think about this years Christmas and how they will not have the money to even have a Christmas, I want you to think about that!!!

You should have heard the resounding “YEA, you greedy criminal”

Oh yea, there was some discussion about the RICCO law and how this agency was ignoring the fact that the big banks were violating that law by giving out loans to people without identification or documentation and know we were bailing them out. Basically taxpayer money is now paying white (green) collar criminals! Pres.-Elect, I may have a coronary before Jan.. 20th…..

WHAT CAN I DO TO as you have said, “BE USEFUL?” I am sitting by my phone, internet, TV waiting!!!!

Re: Continued: Truth in “bail out” act . . . . yea, right! | Report to Admin

By Bradley from Midlothian, VA Nov 14th 2008 at 1:05 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:05 pm EST)

Why aren't the Democrats investigating why Fannie and Freddie failed. The reason is because of there the ones that forced them to create loans for those who should not have qualified. They were in the pockets of Fannie.

In Senator Obamas 4 years he received the 2nd most contributions for executives of Fannie and Freddie. Dodd was one and the survey was over ten years. So if you look at the contributions per year Senator Obama did.

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By Julie from HI Nov 14th 2008 at 1:15 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:15 pm EST)

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Lieberman | Report to Admin

By Acorn from Texas Nov 14th 2008 at 1:04 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:04 pm EST)

What is going on with the Lieberman situation. The last I heard Obama was in support of his staying in the Dem caucus and keeping his chairmanship. If this is the case I am very disappointed. I think we should let the BO know that this is unacceptable. Lieberman is a snake! He cannot be trusted.

Re: Lieberman | Report to Admin

By Bradley from Midlothian, VA Nov 14th 2008 at 1:08 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:08 pm EST)

You are right he os a snake because he put his country's interests ahead of political party. He showed that he is working for the American people and not moveon.org, etc.

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By Julie from HI Nov 14th 2008 at 1:14 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:14 pm EST)

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By Acorn from Texas Nov 14th 2008 at 1:15 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:15 pm EST)

Agreed.

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By End The War Nov 14th 2008 at 1:14 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:14 pm EST)

It keeps him as a Senator with helping get the dems to 260. Keep your friends close and your enemies closer : )

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By Suzanne from CT Nov 14th 2008 at 1:33 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:33 pm EST)

Obama did not support Lieberman's staying. He just said he wouldn't meddle with the Senate decisions. As he will be no longer a member of the Senate from Sunday onwards, it's up to the Democratic caucus in the Senate. So, again, have some trust in the people in the Senate. They aren't stupid. If the three outstanding Senate seats go to the Democrats, Lieberman's vote would once more be crucial. It's more important to get legislation passed than acting in petty revenge. The Democrats will almost certainly strip him of his chairmanship (because they are totally pissed off with him), but they won't throw him out of the party (just yet ;) ).

SECRETARY OF STATE | Report to Admin

By End The War Nov 14th 2008 at 1:08 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:08 pm EST)

Gov. Bill Richardson for Secretary of State. He is the best choice. Give Hillary something like Health and Human Services Cabinet where she can implement her insurance plans. Hillary may just want to have another position where she can get experience in a Presidency to run again in 2012 or 2016. Plus that's another seat open in the Senate that the Repubs could get. See Richardson's Accomplishments:

Gov. Bill Richardson VP.
Former U.S. Senate Senator
US Energy Secretary - Unanimously confirmed
Cut waste and created further accountability at the Dept of Energy
Two-thirds of his appointments went to women and minorities
Ambassador to the U.N.
Nominated 5 times for the Noble Peace Prize
Served as a special envoy on many sensitive international missions.
Successfully won the release of hostages, American servicemen, and prisoners in North Korea, Iraq, and Cuba. also secured the release of an Albuquerque resident who was kept hostage in Sudan.
Supported by Democrats, Republicans and Independents
Became NM Governor - Reelected by 69% of voters
Improved education, cut taxes, built a high-wage economy
Champions Environmental causes
Cut taxes for working families and raising the minimum wage
Balanced budget and the highest reserves in state history
Unemployment rate that is the lowest in state history
NM most ethnically diverse in the country.
National leader in job growth and economic momentum
Chairman of the Democratic Governor's Association
Raised more than $28 million for gubernatorial candidates
Taught courses on government at New Mexico State Univ, Harvard Univs Kennedy School of Government and the United World College
His career is in public service, academia and the private sector
Received BA from Tufts and a MA from Tuft's Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy in 1971.
Chair of Freedom House, a private, non-partisan organization that promotes democracy worldwide
Can bring in the Hispanic and Latino voters
Speaks Spanish
Was one of the first big Democrat to endorse Barrack

Link

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By Beth from Albany Oregon Nov 14th 2008 at 1:48 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:48 pm EST)

Well,

He was my choice b/f I read this list. Now he is my hmmm. . . . choice x 10.

So although he is of male gender, he is a minority, so that accounts for something. I just hope that Obama uses the school of thought that a government should be perportionant to the populus, %51 women, I believe, and percentages of all major minorities (well that's an oximoran) ;)
Additionally, we need to see much less "gray hair" and more progressive brown and blonde and red hair, get it?

I want Biden to be the only White haired guy there! Well one White haired woman is fine.

I am watching to see if he is able to pull this off while still making sure that he has the best of the best the cream of the crop, people for those positions.

Re: SECRETARY OF STATE | Report to Admin

By Rick in Boulder, CO Nov 14th 2008 at 5:17 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 5:17 pm EST)

OK, above when I said Richardson lacked "gravitas" I misspoke. That was the weak link in my argument, which I otherwise felt was pretty solid, and I stand corrected. I was looking for a Secretary of State who would be tough and smart, the kind of person that I'd want going into a negotiation with Putin/Medvedev, the Chinese or the Iranians. Clinton fit the bill in my opinion, Daschle somewhat, but Kerry did not. My initial impression of Richardson was that he was too friendly and not tough enough. Thanks to your post, I now think Richardson could be effective as SOS bringing a different kind of friendly-but-firm diplomacy to negotiations.

all I know is that if the sun doesn't rise tomorrow morning ... | Report to Admin

By rich Nov 14th 2008 at 1:09 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:09 pm EST)

All I know is that if the sun doesn't rise tomorrow morning ...

... then I'll to seriously reconsider my support for the sun.

Re: all I know is that if the sun doesn't rise tomorrow morning ... | Report to Admin

By Cilla...Currently living in Spain and lovin' it Nov 14th 2008 at 1:22 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:22 pm EST)

LOL!!!!!

Re: all I know is that if the sun doesn't rise tomorrow morning ... | Report to Admin

By ♥ dreamweaver "Grab A Mop" ♥ aka Vicki from Iowa Nov 14th 2008 at 1:34 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:34 pm EST)

Ditto

Re: all I know is that if the sun doesn't rise tomorrow morning ... | Report to Admin

By rich Nov 14th 2008 at 1:31 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:31 pm EST)

typo,

here's the correction:

... then I'll have to seriously reconsider my support for the sun.

(and the moon better watch it too)

Great link... | Report to Admin

By Peggy Nov 14th 2008 at 1:09 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:09 pm EST)

A friend of mine forwarded this to me...
Link

From Change.gov | Report to Admin

By NY Woman for Obama Nov 14th 2008 at 1:25 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:25 pm EST)

President-elect Obama to meet with Senator McCain Monday
Obama-Biden transition spokesperson Stephanie Cutter released the following statement on a planned meeting between President-elect Obama and Senator McCain Monday:

"On Monday, President-elect Barack Obama and Senator John McCain will meet in Chicago at transition headquarters. It's well known that they share an important belief that Americans want and deserve a more effective and efficient government, and will discuss ways to work together to make that a reality. They will be joined in the meeting by Senator Lindsey Graham and Congressman Rahm Emanuel."

Link

Re: From Change.gov | Report to Admin

By Trueblue Nov 14th 2008 at 1:54 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:54 pm EST)

Oooh, they brought back Stephanie Cutter? good

Hillary Clinton- Good Grief ! | Report to Admin

By Catherine from Naples, FL Nov 14th 2008 at 1:27 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:27 pm EST)

Hillary Clinton for Sec.of State ! Say it isn't so. This is not someone to whom Pres.elect Obama should turn his other cheek .Let's not forget that she did not want to withdraw from the race until after June because Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in that month.One does not have to have a Master's in Psychology ,(but I do ), to understand that this was her fervent wish- a wish which sprung forth from her sub-conscious before her ego could check its verbalization.I support Obama's belief in inclusion,but it must have its limits.Let's not forget that his supporters want change,not recycled politicians who'll give us more of the same old same old.

Re: Hillary Clinton- Good Grief ! | Report to Admin

By Kimberly Helen Hussein Nov 14th 2008 at 1:29 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:29 pm EST)

Stop complaining.

I beg of you. Give him a chance to govern before you bail on him.

Obama will BE the president.

Re: Hillary Clinton- Good Grief ! | Report to Admin

By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 14th 2008 at 1:32 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:32 pm EST)

I agree Catherine 100%!!!

Re: Hillary Clinton- Good Grief ! | Report to Admin

By Faith Nov 14th 2008 at 1:36 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:36 pm EST)

Hello All,
I don't Hillary for Secretary of State. I think her foreign affairs credentials are mostly imaginary. I don't think being the Presidents wife makes you an expert on foreign policy. Having said that, I would love to see Hillary as Attorney General. She is smart, she does know where some of the bodies are buried, we do need to clean up the Justice Department and bring competency back to the office. If she does a fair and balanced job it would be such sweet revenge to the 'right wing witch hunt' she went through during her husbands administration. She could show the American public how to be gracious, professional, and capable.

We need to clean up that department and fast.

Re: Hillary Clinton- Good Grief ! | Report to Admin

By Suzanne from CT Nov 14th 2008 at 1:43 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:43 pm EST)

Hillary said she doesn't want to be Attorney General. I don't think she can be forced into that office.

Re: Hillary Clinton- Good Grief ! | Report to Admin

By Faith Nov 14th 2008 at 1:50 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:50 pm EST)

When did she say that?

Re: Hillary Clinton- Good Grief ! | Report to Admin

By Suzanne from CT Nov 14th 2008 at 1:55 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:55 pm EST)

Was in the Press a while ago, and repeated by some people on blogs last night.

Re: Hillary Clinton- Good Grief ! | Report to Admin

By Bon Nov 14th 2008 at 1:41 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:41 pm EST)

re: This is not someone to whom Pres.elect Obama should turn his other cheek

1. He's not turning his cheek or anything else. He's in charge.

2. She did great things for him on the trail. She deserves a post, if that's what they both want.

3. She's tough as nails, we all know that but he's tougher. Remember, he has a "spine of steel."

4. This man is different from all that came before, except maybe Lincoln and Kennedy. HE KNOWS WHAT HE'S DOING!

Re: Hillary Clinton- Good Grief ! | Report to Admin

By WELCOME TO THE WHITE HOUSE MR. PRESIDENT!!! Nov 14th 2008 at 2:01 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:01 pm EST)

I am really getting tired of all these complaints on a leak with no name attached to it!

The Obama campaign never had leek problems during the primary and the general election and highly doubt that would change now!

I am sure Hillary is being considered for some kind of a post BUT I will refrain from offering premature criticism or praise until I here directly from President elect Obama and or a member of his inner circle.

The media which has NEVER been a fair balanced unbiased in their reporting on Obama is continuing on the same disruptive path doing their level best to divide us!

Frankly some of you need to get a grip and ignore the tolls. I hate to think this is what it is going to be like every time a rumor surfaces or it will be the most miserable 4 years. It is hard to imagine anything worse than pre election days.....

Re: Hillary Clinton- Good Grief ! | Report to Admin

By Paul J. Los Angeles Nov 14th 2008 at 2:15 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:15 pm EST)

This reminds me of when the press kept showing Emanuel heming an hawing about the position of WH COS. I said to myself, BO is not going to offer anyone a position unless he knows that the individual want the position.

Here, we have HRC's name being thrown in the mix for SOS. Did Obama say HE was considering HRC for the position, or is this a media created possibility.

And if she is being considered, did we all of a sudden stop trusting in Obama's judgment on November 5???

Dear President Obama... | Report to Admin

By Rene-who chooses to HopeNotHype ....Hype Got us Into This Mess but Hope will Bring Us Out... Nov 14th 2008 at 1:32 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:32 pm EST)

This Scriptural Nugget is for you...

"If with heart and soul you're doing good, do you think you can be stopped? Even if you suffer for it, you're still better off. Don't give the opposition a second thought. Through thick and thin, keep your hearts at attention, in adoration before Christ, your Master. Be ready to speak up and tell anyone who asks why you're living the way you are, and always with the utmost courtesy. Keep a clear conscience before God so that when people throw mud at you, none of it will stick. They'll end up realizing that they're the ones who need a bath. It's better to suffer for doing good, if that's what God wants, than to be punished for doing bad. That's what Christ did definitively: suffered because of others' sins, the Righteous One for the unrighteous ones. He went through it all—was put to death and then made alive—to bring us to God."1 Peter 3:13-18 (The Message)

You, your family and team have been and will continue to be in my prayers always..

God Bless you and God-Speed.

Embarassing | Report to Admin

By Kimberly Helen Hussein Nov 14th 2008 at 1:33 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:33 pm EST)

The hate that's being spewed on these blogs is embarrassing.

If HRC is chosen to be SOS what are you going to do? Tune out? Vote Republican in 2012? Sit out?

Even if he delivers on his policy promises?

Give him a chance to govern before you throw a temper tantrum.

Please- act like adults.

Re: Embarassing | Report to Admin

By Tracy in CT Nov 14th 2008 at 1:37 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:37 pm EST)

I agree Kim.

Re: Embarassing | Report to Admin

By Lace; Yes We Did Nov 14th 2008 at 1:46 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:46 pm EST)

I second that.

Re: Embarassing | Report to Admin

By Suzanne from CT Nov 14th 2008 at 1:50 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:50 pm EST)

I second-and-a-half that.

Re: Embarassing | Report to Admin

By Tracy in CT Nov 14th 2008 at 1:58 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:58 pm EST)

: )

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By ♥ dreamweaver "Grab A Mop" ♥ aka Vicki from Iowa Nov 14th 2008 at 1:54 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:54 pm EST)

I third that.

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By Stan Z- Christian-President Obama Knows His Stuff Nov 14th 2008 at 2:12 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:12 pm EST)

I third that. No one here(that I know) is remotely qualified to pick the Secretary of State.

Let me repeat that, no one here is remotley qualified to pick who our next Secretary of State is. Barack is going to need all the support he can get because he is constantly being attacked by the Republican/Corporate leadership.

The same thing happened with the pick of Joe Biden. People wanted the picture perfect progressive candidate instead of one who could crush in a debate and reassure the public of Barack's good judgment. What happened with that?

Hillary | Report to Admin

By Judi from Box Elder, MT Nov 14th 2008 at 1:34 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:34 pm EST)

Why would such an idea as appointing Hillary to any Cabinet position is insulting to those of us who voted for you. If we wanted Hillary we would have voted for her. CHANGE. CHANGE. CHANGE. THAT IS WHAT YOU PROMISED US, PLEASE BE TRUE TO YOUR WORD AND HILLARY IS NOT A PART OF THE CHANGE YOU PROMISED.

REMEMBER "BILL RICHARDSON" WHO SUPPORTED YOU WHEN OTHERS DID NOT, REMEMBER NORTH KOREA, WHEN THEY VISITED WITH BIII IN NEW MEXICO, HELLO!

Re: Hillary | Report to Admin

By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 14th 2008 at 1:35 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:35 pm EST)

I agree Judi!!

Re: no profile | Report to Admin

By rich Nov 14th 2008 at 1:38 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:38 pm EST)

This person has not yet created a public profile.

Re: no profile | Report to Admin

By Suzanne from CT Nov 14th 2008 at 1:49 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:49 pm EST)

But she has Debbies personal seal of approval. That should suffice to make her credible.

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By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 14th 2008 at 1:55 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:55 pm EST)

Susanne all I will say to you is
LALALALALALALALALALALALALALALA LA

Re: no profile | Report to Admin

By Suzanne from CT Nov 14th 2008 at 3:38 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 3:38 pm EST)

Hmmm. Sounds like what my ten-year-old niece would say. But this site is open to children of all ages.

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By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 14th 2008 at 11:09 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:09 pm EST)

Susanne all I have to say is LALALALALALALALALA

Let's keep it real!!

Re: no profile | Report to Admin

By CHELSEA Nov 15th 2008 at 1:43 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:43 am EST)

I agree with Debbie and Judi.

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By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 16th 2008 at 4:03 pm EST (Updated Nov 16th 2008 at 4:03 pm EST)

Thanks Chelsea!!

Smile Jesus Loves You and so do I :-)

Re: Hillary | Report to Admin

By Kimberly Helen Hussein Nov 14th 2008 at 1:38 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:38 pm EST)

Stop this childish behavior.

You guys are goin' Limbaugh-crazy over this!

Re: Hillary | Report to Admin

By Snucky Nov 14th 2008 at 1:46 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:46 pm EST)

i am amazed at some knee jerk obama supporters will turn on him in a new york minute if he does not agree with them 100%. hell, i did not not agree with obama 100% in my initial support of hillary until she dropped out. i trust obama's judgement. if he picks's hillary and you don't like well sign up for a primary opponent in 2012 or palin in the 2012 general. the guy have not even taken office yet and just because he MIGHT pick hillary for state we hear whining. if that is the case i expect a lot of whining over the next 4 years becuase obama will do do things not 100% lockstep with some of you.

Re: Hillary | Report to Admin

By Kimberly Helen Hussein Nov 14th 2008 at 1:50 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:50 pm EST)

Well said snucky!

Re: Hillary | Report to Admin

By Stan Z- Christian-President Obama Knows His Stuff Nov 14th 2008 at 2:18 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:18 pm EST)

You're right Snucky. Barack needs our support. Try to voice your opinions in a contructive manner. Change happens from the bottom up and the top down. There are always going to be people in the middle who carry over some of the old ideas. That is not so bad.

We don't want to change everything. We want to change what's wrong and keep what's right.

Re: Hillary | Report to Admin

By Helped turn VA Blue...Now Craving for a Blue Texas! Nov 14th 2008 at 2:06 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:06 pm EST)

I disagree. See my post below this thread.

I do not see how this position will help Richardson. He has enough foreign experience and if he is looking to develop his skills in another area, he may need a shift to another portfolio.

Hillary is a good choice. She delivered the 18 million cracks. We need her when we are up and when we are down.

Andrew Sullivan: Hillary Clinton For Secretary Of State | Report to Admin

By Kimberly Helen Hussein Nov 14th 2008 at 1:37 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:37 pm EST)

Conservative blogger (and long-time Obama supporter) sees the upside to this:

Link

Re: Andrew Sullivan: Hillary Clinton For Secretary Of State | Report to Admin

By Barbara"Hussein-fistbump" BaRock-O-Biden Nov 14th 2008 at 1:44 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:44 pm EST)

Maybe the President Elect can creat a new position like Sec of National Health Care.

What about the Surgeon General. Something like that.

It could work.

Re: Andrew Sullivan: Hillary Clinton For Secretary Of State | Report to Admin

By Rick in Boulder, CO Nov 14th 2008 at 5:41 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 5:41 pm EST)

I feel like all these recommendations that Hillary is best suited for Secretary of Health and Human Services kind of pigeon holes her to a single field, albeit the critically important area of health care. Certainly she developed expertise there, but should her career options be henceforth confined to one area? I think she has more to offer. I'm glad Obama is considering her for a position in his Administration.

Remember Lincoln appointed his determined Republican primary rival William Seward as Secretary of State, as the Union was sinking into crisis.

Rick

No DNC takeover and Hillary Earned it | Report to Admin

By Deep Clay Nov 14th 2008 at 1:40 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:40 pm EST)

Two things: I do not want this site taken over by the DNC as rumored and I would also like the campaign offices to remain open. I support Gov. Richardson for Sec. of State; however, Senator Clinton has earned her spot. I think if Richardson does not get the job I want him to have a high profile job, he is more than qualified (Homeland Security and/or the environment as it relates to our national security Richardson is a tough guy (he would vanquish the myths about dems being soft on national security). I would like to see Kerry in charge of the Veterans and give that job more creditability our soldiers have been pushed aside and not treated well once they come home and their families, we really need someone with a high profile to get these hospitals in shape, there is a lot of work to do for everyone! I trust Obama to make well thought out decisions.

Re: No DNC takeover and Hillary Earned it | Report to Admin

By Kimberly Helen Hussein Nov 14th 2008 at 1:47 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:47 pm EST)

Marc Ambinder reports:

Link

Obama is being very shrewd with this which is no surprise. He's very smart and can be quite calculating.

I'm fine with HRC being SOS. There are good reasons to give her that position.

There are a lot of good options.

obama plans weekly chats on you tube | Report to Admin

By mom for Obama Nov 14th 2008 at 1:54 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:54 pm EST)

(more info. on Huffington)
our pres. elect plans weekly chats starting this sat. on change.gov AWESOME!!!!!

Re: obama plans weekly chats on you tube | Report to Admin

By Kimberly Helen Hussein Nov 14th 2008 at 2:00 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:00 pm EST)

Nice : )

Trust your president elect | Report to Admin

By ObamaCanada Nov 14th 2008 at 1:50 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:50 pm EST)

If you trusted Obama enough to work for him, donate to him and vote for him, then why would you not trust him enough to select the right candidates for each Secretary position.

Sit back, relax and watch how brilliant this man is.

Re: Trust your president elect | Report to Admin

By Beth from Albany Oregon Nov 14th 2008 at 1:53 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:53 pm EST)

So glad to see something posted here that I can and want to respond to, after our blog was hijacked.

I am seriously considering flying out of here and joining a positive + only blog.

I was so surprised to see that I had only been away two days and returned last night to a completely high jacked Obama site. Out of 657 posts approximately %75 of them were either Trolls or people arguing with them. That is just nuts!

All I can say is, no matter what, I am always going to take the high road.

This means I will not respond to trolls except my standard "bless the ignorant post." They are virtual bullies and two-year-olds, I am a mother and grandmother and I know a temper-tantrum when I see one.

I also have a special needs boy who has been bullied his whole life. I have taught him to not respond to the bullies and walk away because that breaks the control and power and return it back to him. Since he suffers from an Autisic disorder, it has been hard for him to do it, but he hasn't been bullied since the beginning of summer!

So, I have no idea about the rest of my ObamaCAN friends, if you are on board or not, but I am not going to put up with another night like last night.

The negative is damaging to my positive psyche and I am awaiting what my assigned job will be when Obama gets our government back and running "of the people, by the people, for the people," even for the two-year-old, temper-tanturming, bullies.

I actually don't believe we will see any improvement of their behavior even if Pres.-Elect Obama, is able to take our Country out of the depths of the Bush Admin. Sea, and rises it higher than the visible sky, trolls will still find something else to bully us about, so negativity is just a way of life for them, but should never be the way for any of us!! The high road, the positive way, the Obama way,,,, bless them ... ignore them . . . don't engage them ... don't take the bait, they actually tried it with me by saying "do you want to engage" after smearing me. Guess what? I left. I ignored.

ObamaCANS please I am asking you to IGNORE and REPORT. IGNORE

Re: Trust your president elect | Report to Admin

By Faith Nov 14th 2008 at 2:02 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:02 pm EST)

Beth I agree with you. We all need to remember our agreement to ignore and report the trolls. I hope that in trying to get back to positivity - that we do not shut down legitimate discussion.

Re: Trust your president elect | Report to Admin

By Kimberly Helen Hussein Nov 14th 2008 at 1:54 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:54 pm EST)

Yup yup!

Re: Trust your president elect | Report to Admin

By Kimberly Helen Hussein Nov 14th 2008 at 1:54 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:54 pm EST)

Yup yup!

Re: Trust your president elect | Report to Admin

By Paul J. Los Angeles Nov 14th 2008 at 2:09 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:09 pm EST)

Damn..he's only just won the election...can we allow him to at a minimum, pick his cabinet??? At least see how his picks work out and then, if necessary, critisize the picks....While we are here arguing over his picks for various cabinet positions, there are about 58,209,315 voters who are saying..WTF, they picked Obama for President??? Obama could be one of the best presidents in history!! What if HRC is indeed picked and turns out to be the best SOS ever???? Let's see how it goes first!

I have trusted Obama's judgment from day 1. Don't see any rerason to stop now...

Re: Trust your president elect | Report to Admin

By ♥ dreamweaver "Grab A Mop" ♥ aka Vicki from Iowa Nov 14th 2008 at 2:25 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:25 pm EST)

Amen Paul

Barack Pick Hillary Please for SOS | Report to Admin

By Helped turn VA Blue...Now Craving for a Blue Texas! Nov 14th 2008 at 1:52 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:52 pm EST)

I support Hillary Clinton for Secretary of State. We need gender balance in the cabinet.

Hillary cracked 18 million votes. We need them when we are up and when we are down. The majority of them voted for our 44th President.

Bill is loved around the world. Hillary is admired and she is respected. She will also get advice from Bill, who is one of the greatest presidents.

Barack promised CHANGE and change means working with others that may shared different views.

Pick Hillary Barack - please do. She is a good choice!

Interesting how some people are scared of strong powerful women. We need Hillary. She campaigned for our POTUS like never before.

Re: Barack Pick Hillary Please for SOS | Report to Admin

By Kimberly Helen Hussein Nov 14th 2008 at 1:54 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:54 pm EST)

I'll be fine with whomever he chooses.

obama plans weekly chats on youtube | Report to Admin

By mom for Obama Nov 14th 2008 at 1:58 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:58 pm EST)

(from huffington)
our pres. elect will give weekly chats starting this sat. from change.gov
AWESOME!!!!!

Re: obama plans weekly chats on youtube | Report to Admin

By Tracy in CT Nov 14th 2008 at 2:10 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:10 pm EST)

Very cool!

: )

Here is the link to the huff post piece.

Link

Re: obama plans weekly chats on youtube | Report to Admin

By Beth from Albany Oregon Nov 14th 2008 at 2:10 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:10 pm EST)

So awsome!!!

What time? please post which time zone :)

Unity! | Report to Admin

By Czarina JB in Arizona Nov 14th 2008 at 1:53 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:53 pm EST)

Family,

Do you believe that Barack Obama and Joe Biden represent the change we need?

If your answer is Yes, then we need to trust in our decision. Barack Obama has inspired all of us. He believed in us and we must continue to believe in him. Until Barack Obama announces his cabinet appointments, we need not speculate, worry, argue, or complain. We have 67 days until he becomes our President. Let's just revel in that joyous occasion.

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By Kimberly Helen Hussein Nov 14th 2008 at 1:59 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:59 pm EST)

Well said!

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By Anne in London Nov 14th 2008 at 2:35 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:35 pm EST)

That was precisly the attitude Americans gave on a platter to George W Bush.

Obviously the 2 men are entirely and fundamentally different but the fact remains:

discussion /argument / shared thoughts and ideas / respectful disagreement

are the cornerstones of democracy.

enough with this: shut up, bow your heads, and follow the leader crap.

Families can disagree. And it's creepy if they never do.

respectfully,
anne

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By Charles from New York Nov 14th 2008 at 5:11 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 5:11 pm EST)

Finally!!!!

Thank you, thank you, thank you, Anne.

It is amazing how someone opens their mouth to suggest that Hillary might not be the best choice and right away they're characterized as ultimatum-shouters, haters, etc. etc.

Let me make clear, at least, where I'm coming from: I believe choosing Hillary for Secretary of State would be a mistake. For a myriad of reasons which many have adduced here, including me, her choice would prove distracting and counter-productive.

Nevertheless please note that I have not said that I would walk away from my obligations to this community as an activist nor from my support of President Obama were he to choose Hillary. Rather I am offering my honest, sincere and well-intentioned evaluation of that pick. We all have not only the privilege but the obligation to send up a flare if we believe there is a potential problem.

In closing, please remind yourself that this is exactly what Obama expects of us. For example, take a listen to this audio clip from Obama from the ending of one his final town hall meetings. It demonstrates clearly what he expects and needs from us: Link .

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By Trueblue Nov 14th 2008 at 2:00 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:00 pm EST)

Kathleen Sebelius? what does anybody think?and is she interested in a position?Just asking

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By CHELSEA Nov 15th 2008 at 1:51 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:51 am EST)

Charles and Anne,
Well stated.

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By rich Nov 14th 2008 at 2:01 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:01 pm EST)

Bored ?

Losing patience over not being the go-to person for Obama's transition team ?

Wondering why so many other people are walking away from you on that highway ?

Well, all is not lost. Cheer up mate ...

... cuz it's pah-tee time ! :

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By am Nov 14th 2008 at 2:02 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:02 pm EST)

I am amazed how shallow is the depth of support from some for the Presidend Elect.What is the point of the election if we second guess everything we think he is doing.Was the campaign well run?,the best campaign ever? Are the same people involved in the transition? It may be stating the obvious but the information and knowledge available to Barack and his team is not available to anyone on this blog.Please Please have faith in the man you elected not two weeks ago.Reading SOME posts all I can say is with friends like that who needs enemies.

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By kandy cane Nov 14th 2008 at 2:18 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:18 pm EST)

It is the Pundits' and Medias' GOAL to stir the pot and to cause desention between ALL of us who voted for and support our President Elect, Barack Obama! On some level they are still playing the "election game", when the game is over and we now have a new President Elect - Barack Obama! We ALL know how biased they were in the campaign! We ALL know how they just tried every day to keep our "hope" in the realm of impossibility! Well, WE FOOLED ALL OF THEM and voted for and elected Barack Obama! I trust Barack Obama, 100% to move our Country forward, and to try very hard to meet the goals he set in regard to meeting the needs of the American People! LET US HAVE FAITH IN OUR NEWLY ELECTED PRESIDENT! WE CANNOT BE DIVIDED -- WE MUST BE UNITED! Enough of the negative - LET'S THINK POSITIVE AND CHANGE THE SUBJECT!!

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By Anne in London Nov 14th 2008 at 2:20 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:20 pm EST)

The last thing America needs now is a resurgence of 'my country right or wrong' / dissent is disloyalty / for us or against us -

PLEASE! we can express our opinions. we can disagree. we can question our government.

And if we ever stop doing this, we lose our democracy.

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By WELCOME TO THE WHITE HOUSE MR. PRESIDENT!!! Nov 14th 2008 at 2:27 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:27 pm EST)

I have no problem with questioning the government but I have big problem with putting the cart before the horse based on a supposed leak. A leak without a name is nothing more than a rumor!

The only fact we have is Hillary flew to meet president elect Obama for a meeting and that is it!

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By Michelle from Youngstown, Ohio Nov 14th 2008 at 2:27 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:27 pm EST)

I'm with you. I've been praying daily that God would direct his heart and mind to appoint the right men and women to serve in his administration.

We don't know if God has directed President Elected Obama to choose Sen Clinton in his cabinet. God's choice may not be ours.

When praying for Obama, we must be careful not to put our own conclusion into how things should or may turn out. We might be very surprise how God may strategically organized his administration.

Trust In The Lord With All Thine Heart And Lean Not Unto Thy Own Understanding. Proverbs 3:5

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By Carmen From New York City, NY Nov 14th 2008 at 2:28 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:28 pm EST)

Am, thank you for that. And everyone has a right to their opinion. However, for some to be hypocritical and judgemental and still preach that they are religious people at the same time amazes me. It just shows how phony you are. You can not have your cake and eat it too. He is our President-Elect and I will support his decision. No I am not fond of Hillary. However, the decision Obama makes,I will support it. And I will not believe any speculation until I hear it from Obama's lip. Bashing Obama and trying to call the man weak is un-call for. And you voted for him. And I am proud that I did vote for him and I know I will also not like every decision he makes. However, I still support him as President and I will give him a chance to prove that he is the one. The Right One!

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By ♥ dreamweaver "Grab A Mop" ♥ aka Vicki from Iowa Nov 14th 2008 at 2:44 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:44 pm EST)

Carmen, I thank you. Your words are my feelings too, especially about calling Barack weak and the hypocrisy, judgment and the preaching of religion in the same breath.

Hugs, Vicki

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By Carmen From New York City, NY Nov 14th 2008 at 3:03 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 3:03 pm EST)

Hi Vicki,

It is shameful that some are calling Obama weak and they voted for him. The man is not weak. He has came this far and now he is President-Elect. Some of us will not agree with every decision he makes. And that does not mean Obama is weak. I am proud of my President-Elect and he has came along way to get to where he is today. There is nothing weak about that. Again, whatever decision he makes, I still support him 100%. Lets see what the man can do and I am quite sure he will do fine. Look at the excellent campaign he has ran. That should tell you something right there. The man knows what he is doing and I respect him and the DECISION he makes. I will wait to hear it from Obama's Lips. No one elses....

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By Anne in London Nov 14th 2008 at 6:51 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 6:51 pm EST)

I don't know who's calling Barack Obama weak - certainly not I -

I so hope we can keep God out of this - who can call him to account? (as Job so movingly asked - check out the Old Testament)

But I do remember hearing Barack Obama say, in his speech on election night: I will listen to you, especially when you disagree with me ...

He is a believer in the US Constitution, and not just the right to but the fundamental importance of free speech and dissent ..

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By RK Nov 14th 2008 at 2:04 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:04 pm EST)

Hillary's passion and interest has always been healthcare. It doesn't make sense to make her SOS. Is he really giving Bill Clinton a job - he is the one who really has the experience to deal with international world leaders and start building bridges.

There is already mistrust and inpatience with America around the world around the illegal wars, no green policies and the financial meltdown because of Bush. There is alot fo change and work to be done.

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By End The War Nov 14th 2008 at 2:30 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:30 pm EST)

Plus, she is going to be further vetted and may have a conflict of interest as many of the countries have given big money to the Clinton Library. Barack's application process is very completed plus she is another big lobby recipient and I thought he doesn't want to have applicants with lobbyist ties for the last 12 months. I think as Sec. of State her lobbyist connections will cause problems for her, especially big funds donated to her primary election. Plus, she proved that she, I don't know how else to put it, but she lies. These countries need to know and feel reassured that they are getting the truth. Plus, her personal/Bill's library donations would be in big trouble in Columbia. They received big donations for her campaign via Columbia to the library. Furthermore, one of her campaign advisers went to Columbia for a quick visit when she was low on funds. Columbia is so corrupt from the top down with the drug trade business and the slaughter of Colombians. I don't want her as Secretary of State and I'm sure many countries weren't thrilled by the the Clinton Presidency.

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By End The War Nov 14th 2008 at 2:06 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:06 pm EST)

I believe in Obama and I believe in his choices. His appointments are carefully considered for now and the future. He picked Rahm b/c he is very talented and has a good reputation for getting things done - he is not a "yes" man. Furthermore, he is a close friend of Barack from Chicago. Many of his other picks are connected to the Clinton's b/c they were in the Senate then and served him well. They are now even more talented b/c of their additional 8 years of experience with Bush. They are now the big Democrat players with years of experience.

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By ObamaCanada Nov 14th 2008 at 2:14 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:14 pm EST)

One thing everyone can count on. Barack Obama will select the very best people for each and every position.

I think the Rahm pick was brilliant. The only way to bring change to government is to have people who can get things done and Rahm is one of the best at that.

If the people he selects didn't have experience in government, they wouldn't know what needs to be changed.

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By Anne in London Nov 14th 2008 at 2:30 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:30 pm EST)

You can trust a guy - we all do - but let's not deify him, or trust him to be perfect. as he himself (and the marvellous michelle) have both pointed out many times: the man ain't perfect.

Here's a link to an excellent article by naomi klein in today's Guardian (previously published in The Nation!):

Ditch the Smooth Transition: we voted for Change
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By End The War Nov 14th 2008 at 2:40 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:40 pm EST)

I agree.

nblb | Report to Admin

By Lace; Yes We Did Nov 14th 2008 at 2:25 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:25 pm EST)

new thread up:

Link

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By Cyn "Grab a Mop" in Philly suburb Nov 14th 2008 at 2:31 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:31 pm EST)

After all we've been through, the primaries, the debates, the campaign, how can some of you now whine about Barack possibly picking Hillary Clinton as SOS??!!! I swear some of you are never satisfied! You really are behaving like 5 year olds! We've elected Barack to be the next President, can we please allow him to do his thing? Why must we always second guess, criticize, and complain about everything? Is this how it's going to be for the next eight years? I think Barack and his team know what's best, let's let them handle it. Please stop your whining! Geez.

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By Beth from Albany Oregon Nov 14th 2008 at 2:32 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:32 pm EST)

The question is . . . . when you filled in the oval/bubble/arrow/whatever, was your vote for the man, the whole of the man, even if he is like the rest of us, and has had and will continue to make some decsions we may or may not like?

Or did you vote for him because you thought he could do no wrong and would do everything you want without question?

Or did you vote for him because you would rather have him in the office, rather than risking a control freak-idot a step away from you know.

Why did you support Obama? Why did you vote for him?

Why is there so much ado about something that we don't even have information about except through the "media" and we know how reliable they are.

Agreeing to dissagree without being disagreeable, hmm . . . I wonder who said that?

Don't you remember that he makes decisions that are informed, thoughtful, with other's input, and with delibrate haste?

Don't you remember? it has been let's see, counting on fingers, just a sec . . . . yea 10 days since the election 9 days since he woke up to begin the process of surrounding himself with the best, 7 days since he took a much needed weekend off to be with HIS biological family, and has only had this week, 5 days to make many deliberate with haste most important decisions that will affect us, our country and the world!

Even in a Christains Bible, it took "God" six days to create the planet we are disrespecting, and even he took a day off!

Obama is not even close to being a God or a reincarnation of one. . . even if it seems somewhat like that.

He is however, a person who was born in this time, in this now, to lead and liberate our country from the chains of chenny and bush . ..

... I remember another man many actually that were born in their time to grow into greatness for similar purposes, hmm Gahndi, King, Jr., Lincon (god I can't spell today!), I am still thinking, oh and some women who fought and went to jail to gain the rights so all of us women could vote!

as Obama said, there can be only one Pres. at a time, let him prepare to be the 44th!

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By Cyn "Grab a Mop" in Philly suburb Nov 14th 2008 at 2:42 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:42 pm EST)

This is beautiful!!!

Link

Obama is the change we need | Report to Admin

By phs76 Nov 14th 2008 at 3:11 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 3:11 pm EST)

For those concerned about the "change" issue, keep an open mind. President Obama will personify change by instituting the "new" politics from the top as leader. Considering all he's been through with Clinton, Obama is probably more personally in tune with her than with almost any other potential nominee. Besides, she has shown throughout her life the ability to learn from experiences like the past 2 years. My guess is that she would likely become a convert. After reading Doris Kearns Goodwin's book about the Lincoln presidency, "Team of Rivals," I believe 44's transition thus far reflects a lot of the leadership qualities embodied by 16. Lincoln had a profound impact on Seward and, together, they saved the union, made history, and became best friends.

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By CHELSEA Nov 14th 2008 at 8:00 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:00 pm EST)

Good, Clinton can work in another capacity. Not SOS.

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By Straighttalker Nov 14th 2008 at 10:59 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:59 pm EST)

Right on. Hillary can be put in-charge of Health Care. In foreign policy, she is the exact opposite of what Barack stands for, and will wreck his dream of changing the world.

By the way, why is he allowing all these leaks to happen. What happened to No Drama Obama?

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By Just 1 .. Not "the one" or "that one" ... Nov 14th 2008 at 3:50 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 3:50 pm EST)

Hate to give her any more attention, but how come, if she's such a Super executive for her state of Alaska up there ... how come they are taking so much time to count the votes??!!!???

Hello Obama Landers! We are the ones we've been waiting for. This is our moment. This is OUR time. Yes we did! Yes we still are! | Report to Admin

By Megan in Northwest Indiana Nov 14th 2008 at 5:33 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 5:33 pm EST)

Maya Soetoro-Ng: Dealing with death and dying, and her brother's historic Presidential win
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Hoosier Jobs: Debt collection jobs available
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Robert Reich on Hardball talking 'Keynesian economics '
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Solidarity: Sarah Palin undercuts bloggers in PJs - Rachel Maddow wears PJs on TeeVee
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Hey Georgia! You got another chance - Take another look at Jim Martin for Senate
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Hoosier Reasoning: Democratic Senator Evan Bayh of Indiana explains the rationale for keeping Lieberman to Rachel Maddow
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Alaskan Horse Race: FiveThirtyEight.com calls Mark Begich is an "overwhelming favorite to win" after today's counting
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Dr. and Mr. Vice-President Elect Joe Biden meet the Cheneys - No Shots Were Fired
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The Young Turks: Center-Right? Chris Matthews calls out Republican Todd Harris on Hardball - I say Center-Wrong!
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Lame Duck Quackitudes - How the Bush Administration's incompetence benefits the rest of us
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Blogger's Dad's first question after coming out of sedation - Who Won?
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By Straighttalker Nov 14th 2008 at 10:50 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:50 pm EST)

Forget Bush. We are in danger of being swamped by the Clintonites, who are trying to forge a victory out of defeat. Hillary Clinton as Secty. of State! Please stop this from happening.

http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/politics/2008/04/30/sot.obama.w.h.vision.cnn | Report to Admin

By martin Nov 14th 2008 at 6:31 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 6:31 pm EST)

Link

http://obamacto.uservoice.com <--- ?

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By Straighttalker Nov 14th 2008 at 10:45 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:45 pm EST)

Oh God, please don’t let this be true. Hillary Clinton is the exact opposite of what Obama is and what he stands for. It’s OK to try and be another Lincoln, but it shouldn’t be at the cost of meritrocracy. Barack no longer seems to be in command. Did he get cold feet all of a sudden, and is letting the Clintonites run all over him?

If Barack selects Hillatry as Secty. of State, he can say bye bye to his dreams of changing the world. And it will be bye bye Obama for me and thousands of his other supporters.

I hope and pray that he puts an end to all this nonsense in his Saturday address tomorrow.

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By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 14th 2008 at 11:10 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:10 pm EST)

I understand your concern Ismat!!

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By Neva Nov 15th 2008 at 9:22 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 9:22 am EST)

Letter written to President-elect Barack Obama - Part 1:

Please, President-elect Barack Obama, do not appoint Hillary Clinton as your Secretary of State.

You are everything that she is not. You ran your campaign on Change, Integrity and Transparency. Hillary Clinton is anathema to all three.

Change: She is from an old administration; one filled with scandals. Also various heads of state have recently, explicitly expressed that they want new faces.

Transparency: Hillary Clinton is known for not being transparent. We read that one of the reasons her healthcare initiative ended in failure was her propensity to work in secrecy. She is on record for constantly changing her positions to suit the trends of the day. She has consistently denied her contributions in some of the ugly Clinton scandals, despite the forensic path leading directly to her (missing Rose Law Firm billing records; missing files from Vince Foster's office; firing of travel office with an innocent man being criminally charged; trashing of Paula Jones....The list goes on and on).

Integrity: Cattle futures, Sniper fire in Bosnia; bringing peace to Ireland; Chelsea jogging around the twin towers when they were hit on 9/11; her role in the various Clinton Whitehouse scandals. Her vicious campaign and the ugly, untrue rumours created to smear you, subsequently vigorously taken up by Sarah Palin.

Part 2 on new post....

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By Neva Nov 15th 2008 at 9:25 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 9:25 am EST)

Letter written to President-elect Barack Obama - Part 2:

...continued:

In addition, Hillary Clinton is one of the most divisive public figures ever. Is that an attribute for Secretary of State, where diplomacy, tact and likeability need to prevail? She cannot be trusted. Her propensity to lie explicitly and publicly despite documented truth is disturbing to say the least. Her behaviour towards competitors and others when she feels threatened is alarming (Congressman Jim Cooper from Tennessee whose healthcare proposal won more approval than hers). Most importantly, she was fired from the Watergate Judicial Committee for being a dishonest, unethical lawyer and a liar. In my view, the latter should preclude her from ever attaining high office, particularly in an administration that promises integrity.

I believe that continuing a close relationship with the Clintons will be fodder, indeed, for a revamped Republican Party in 2012. Republicans are all too aware of her record. Had Hillary Clinton won the primaries, we might have been preparing for the inauguration of President-elect John McCain. That's half the country, including Republicans who voted for you, who detest the legacy of the Clintons.

Please, please President-elect Obama, keep your promises of change, integrity and transparency.

I didn't invest more than a year of my life to see another Clinton Administration; to see your campaign promises set aside so quickly.

As one blogger said, if we had wanted Hillary Clinton in the administration, we would have voted for her, and she would have won, in the primaries.

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By A Progressive Small Businessman Nov 15th 2008 at 3:38 pm EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 3:38 pm EST)

hello,
I don't have a question but a suggestion. We all agree the economy needs stimulus but there is tremendous fear of what that means to future generations. I know I was involved in the Ross Perot campaign. Here is my thought: The public is to a large degree ready to make some sacrifice for the purpose of change. The simple proposition is this. Tell the American public that we will spend our way out of this mess. There are many good ways to employ people and encourage future technologies. The simple idea is we will spend now and cut taxes but when things get good again we will have to raise taxes a little to pay back the treasury. I believe that getting the American public to buy into a long term strategy for stimulus and debt repayment will be an easy sell. This should also short circuit most of the fiscal conservatives who would torpedo such an idea as deficit spending and it's long term problems.

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