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By James a Vietnam Vet from NC Nov 14th 2008 at 12:12 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:12 am EST)

Hillary Clinton is as Hawkish as Lieberman and McCain. She is against diplomacy with Iran, and defends Israel's illegal occupation of the West Bank.

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By . Nov 14th 2008 at 12:14 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:14 am EST)

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By Rick in Boulder, CO Nov 14th 2008 at 4:21 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 4:21 am EST)

Whatever else we may think of Hillary Clinton, she is tough and no fool. Our next Secretary of State is going to need a certain toughness and sharpness when meeting and negotiating with Putin/Medvedev, the Iranians, Hamas, the Syrians, the North Koreans, the Chinese, etc. Can you imagine Kerry being tough or sharp enough? Lugar's not interested. I believe Powell is also not interested. Nunn might be a better fit at Defense. Ditto Hagel. Richardson? Not enough gravitas for my tastes. I like Daschle for State, but he might be too much of a pushover. Clinton? Interesting choice, and this is coming from someone who absolutely detested Clinton during the primaries.

Rick

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By Tammy Nov 14th 2008 at 5:44 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 5:44 am EST)

Hillary's toughness is fake. It's just acting. She can't even make the simplest decisions. That was revealed when her campaign ended.

I actually thought Sen. Obama was going to do something bold like appoint new people. I understand there has to be some old hands, but this is ridiculous.

All Obama has to do is hand the presidency back to Bill Clinton and we'll be back in the 90s. I don't see any boldness. I don't see any creativity.

After all John Kerry has done for Obama I can't believe he would refuse to make Kerry sec of state. I find that incredibly selfish and ungrateful.

And don't say a word to me. I've been with Obama since before he announced - through all the ups and downs - all the nasty comments from Clinton - all the low poll numbers - I gave $2600 of my hard earned money - EVERYTHING!

This is the first time I'm really dissappointed.

I'm not knocking the Clinton administration. I simply believed we were going to get change.

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By Catherine of Riverdale, IL Nov 14th 2008 at 6:50 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 6:50 am EST)

Wow...how quickly we twist the knife in the back. It does not matter what decision Obama makes,someone will be disappointed. Let's cut the grumbling and get behind him. I believe he knows what he is doing. Furthermore,regarding Hillary, we are talking about gossip. He said if we haven't heard it from him, take as a grain of salt. Let's do that and not tear him down before he even gets sworn in!

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By Celtic Nov 14th 2008 at 7:41 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 7:41 am EST)

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By Celtic Nov 14th 2008 at 10:11 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:11 am EST)

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By ♥ Tanya ♥ Nov 14th 2008 at 10:47 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:47 am EST)

Ayers did a great job during the interview. Cuomo looked more and more like a twerp the longer the segment labored on.

I'm so glad that Americans rejected the politics of fear. Not this time. (Or NEXT TIME, for that matter!) :o)

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By MR TODD C. TOURE Nov 14th 2008 at 11:58 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:58 am EST)

Cuomo acted like a h### today!Stressing innuendo, looking for some "link",when Iknow for a fact Commonsense is something Barack Obama has in spades, and there were many others who met Ayers, and for him to seem to follow Dumjackass Sarah Palin's Viewpoint, Iknew someone @ABC had to write that questionaire-you know sometimes i like this kid -sometimes.

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By Roger from Dallas, TX Nov 14th 2008 at 12:31 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:31 pm EST)

Who would be best suited for Secretary of State?

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By MR TODD C. TOURE Nov 14th 2008 at 11:59 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:59 am EST)

Cuomo acted like a h### today!Stressing innuendo, looking for some "link",when Iknow for a fact Commonsense is something Barack Obama has in spades, and there were many others who met Ayers, and for him to seem to follow Dumjackass Sarah Palin's Viewpoint, Iknew someone @ABC had to write that questionaire-you know sometimes i like this kid -sometimes.

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By MR TODD C. TOURE Nov 14th 2008 at 11:59 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:59 am EST)

Cuomo acted like a h### today!Stressing innuendo, looking for some "link",when Iknow for a fact Commonsense is something Barack Obama has in spades, and there were many others who met Ayers, and for him to seem to follow Dumjackass Sarah Palin's Viewpoint, Iknew someone @ABC had to write that questionaire-you know sometimes i like this kid -sometimes.

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By MR TODD C. TOURE Nov 14th 2008 at 12:01 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:01 pm EST)

Cuomo acted like a h### today!Stressing innuendo, looking for some "link",when Iknow for a fact Commonsense is something Barack Obama has in spades, and there were many others who met Ayers, and for him to seem to follow Dumjackass Sarah Palin's Viewpoint, Iknew someone @ABC had to write that questionaire-you know sometimes i like this kid -sometimes.

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By Anne in London Nov 14th 2008 at 2:15 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:15 pm EST)

Great interview by Ayers - thanks for the link.

I have such HOPE that we can, as a people, become more intelligent, more nuanced, more thoughtful -
less stupid and fearful and easily manipulated ...

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By sharyn Nov 14th 2008 at 10:17 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:17 am EST)

i too agree, let's wait and see what barack does; however, what a difficult choice this must be. there are excellent arguments for a sec. of state john kerry, his multiple languages, his experience on the world stage; sec. of state bill richardson with his proven experience in negotiation, and like sen.kerry, his strong support for sen. obama and his ties to the latino community; and sec.of state hillary clinton. sen. obama showed, with his choice of joe biden as his running mate, he believes in shoring up his own strengths in those areas where he knows the decisions are both critical and demanding. a choice of sen. clinton as sec. of state would also add a voice he knows is not always the same has his. as now vice president elect joe biden has famously said, "speaking truth to power," should barack choose hillary, this would reinforce what i perceive as his strongest management style, along with choosing the right person for the job regardless.

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By Victoria Nov 14th 2008 at 8:03 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:03 am EST)

Excuse me, Catherine, but I think the person who has been denigrated here is Hillary Clinton. A person who campaigned all over hell and back for Obama.

You know, we used to hear in school about losing graciously. Hillary did that with the full backing of her supporters.

What we never heard mentioned (and should have apparently) is that knowing how to win with some class is pretty important too. Barack needs to call a meeting.

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By Julie S from Media, PA Nov 14th 2008 at 8:54 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:54 am EST)

I agree about Obama needing to be bold about the "change" in Washington. I understand that you have to have some people in the transition with experience. (I was dismayed to hear about the lobbiests on the team as well)

Where is the NEW?

What about Samantha Powers ? Susan Rice ?

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By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 14th 2008 at 10:59 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:59 am EST)

I agree Julia!!

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By CHELSEA Nov 14th 2008 at 7:27 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 7:27 pm EST)

I LIKE Hillary, but she is not right for this particular position.
We want to send a message to the world of CHANGE from Bush, Hillary is not change in this capacity.
Just because we are greatful that she campaigned for Obama--and she did it well, does not reverse her standing on foreign policy.
Hillary would be just fine serving in another capacity.

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By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 16th 2008 at 3:57 pm EST (Updated Nov 16th 2008 at 3:57 pm EST)

I agree with most of what you said Chelsea!!

Smile Jesus Loves You and so do I :-)

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By Yvonne--- for World Peace Nov 14th 2008 at 9:31 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 9:31 am EST)

I for one am being calm. I detested Hillary during the primaries, but there are political nuances that we don't know about.

And I think, if, chosen as Sec. of State she will be exemplary.

Out of respect to newcomers on this blog and media-- in my opinion, it would be best to hash out major gripes and concerns with some local people around you (and not on this blog)... to gain perspective and share your opinions.

We aren't going to get anywhere if our family is dysfunctional.

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By MR TODD C. TOURE Nov 14th 2008 at 12:11 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:11 pm EST)

Nuance being the prime word at this time
Barack is strategizing. One of the things about when Genius has Vision. Not everyone will see it at first, but as time procedes, the map becomes clear. Remember at first inIowa, then all other States began to take notice!Vanquishing formidable HILLARY, had to be done, so that THE REALITY OF PRESIDENT OBAMA, where we are now, could be!Try not to lose perspective here, it's about Character now, too much to obtain, and clean up,build, restructure, eliminate, and put in rightful place. This takes the BEST WOMAN, or Man for the Job!

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By MR TODD C. TOURE Nov 14th 2008 at 12:14 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:14 pm EST)

Nuance being the prime word at this time
Barack is strategizing. One of the things about when Genius has Vision. Not everyone will see it at first, but as time procedes, the map becomes clear. Remember at first inIowa, then all other States began to take notice!Vanquishing formidable HILLARY, had to be done, so that THE REALITY OF PRESIDENT OBAMA, where we are now, could be!Try not to lose perspective here, it's about Character now, too much to obtain, and clean up,build, restructure, eliminate, and put in rightful place. This takes the BEST WOMAN, or Man for the Job!

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By MR TODD C. TOURE Nov 14th 2008 at 12:17 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:17 pm EST)

Nuance being the prime word at this time
Barack is strategizing. One of the things about when Genius has Vision. Not everyone will see it at first, but as time procedes, the map becomes clear. Remember at first inIowa, then all other States began to take notice!Vanquishing formidable HILLARY, had to be done, so that THE REALITY OF PRESIDENT OBAMA, where we are now, could be!Try not to lose perspective here, it's about Character now, too much to obtain, and clean up,build, restructure, eliminate, and put in rightful place. This takes the BEST WOMAN, or Man for the Job!

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By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 14th 2008 at 10:53 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:53 am EST)

I agree Tammy!!

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By Bryce from Telford, PA Nov 14th 2008 at 11:04 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:04 am EST)

It is disheartening to see so many old school thinkers being moved into the most prominent positions in the pending Obama administration. For the first time in my 56 years of life I made political donations of time and money to the Obama campaign to change things. I found out yesterday that Robert Rubin, one of Obama's three economic advisers, was "joined at the hip" to Greenspan and associates in thwarting regulation of the financial derivatives that have brought down the global economy. Now Hillary Clinton, who regardless of her rhetoric is a dyed in the wool old school insider, is to be Sect. of State? These people and their innumerable colleagues never "got it" and do not get it now. As the Bush/Paulson (aka Clintion/Rubin) use of the "bail out" funds have demonstrated, if the old school continues to control power and thinking in Washington, then this was all just another empty exercise in nothing new politics. We committed and worked for hope and change, not just another extension of the Reagan-Bush-Clinton-Bush continuum.

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By Connie Obama (Not held hostage by polls or media) Nov 14th 2008 at 12:18 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:18 pm EST)

Just checked in on the blog and can see it's no different from yesterday. People, IT IS A RUMOR! AND ONE "BROKEN" BY ADNDREA MITCHELL, BFF AND WATER CARRIER FOR HILLARY.

Sure, Hillary campaigned for Barack; it was to her advantage to do so as well. Yesterday I posted the information about the Clintons dealings with foreign gov'ts, businesses and foreign donors to the Clinton library, along with other obstacles which would be a definite conflict of interest if whe were to be SOS.

In the interest of unity I shall not post this info again, but it seems there are people here who never did any research on the Clintons because they blindly supported Hillary. I could have gone her way at the very beginning, voted for Bill twice but considered prudent to research BOTH candidates. If you do you will know why she is not the best choice for SOS.

Look at the skills, qualifications and experience of Sens. Kerry and Richardson, skills that are their OWN, not because they traveled the world as spouse of a POTUS. Hillary is known the world over but go to thomas.loc.gov (Library of Congress) and you'll see she has a very thin legislative record and in seniority, let's face it, she is still only a junior senator in the pecking order of the senate.

I do not agree with bashing her just because of personal dislike. Facts about her background and personal info are a lot more credible and makes a case for a peron's objections, IMO.

In any case, Barack has not come this far NOT knowing what he's doing. For the person who referenced how much money she'd given and how hard she'd worked, well MOST of us did. Some of us maxed out in both the primary and GE, gave to the DNC, and the Obama Victory Fund, along with knocking on doors, registering voters and GOTV. I was one of them yet I'm not going to tear down Barack for his choices; he knows more about what he's doing than anyone on this blog. I support him and it is NOT conditional on his every choice pleasing me.

As we said during the primary, when people start whining about "this isn't change", would you rather have had the alternative? Didn't think so. I see some of us still have a lot of political maturing to do.

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By Victoria Nov 14th 2008 at 3:16 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 3:16 pm EST)

I love it when Obama people talk about "thin records" "lack of experience" and Hillary as a "junior senator." Lol. I guess these are problems for a potential Secretary of State but not so much for the President/Commander In Chief. Dear God.

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By Connie Obama (Not held hostage by polls or media) Nov 14th 2008 at 7:56 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 7:56 pm EST)

Victoria, again, check the records for yourself; I already gave you the website for the Library of Congress where you can find Barack's and Hillary's ACTUAL legislative experience.

You will find Barack in his short time in the US Senate has passed more substantive legislation than has Hillary, not to mention his record from the Illinois state senate.

It is people like you have never did any research and still refuse to do so; you find it easier to come here and sneer at the facts. I'm not bashing Hillary; just stating the FACTS.

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By cbn2 Nov 14th 2008 at 3:41 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 3:41 pm EST)

I agree. And anyone who doesn't think this represents "change" isn't thinking this through. How often have other Presidents chosen former rivals for powerful positions?! This IS change, folks. Obama doesn't hold grudges. He's assembling a political Dream Team to unite us, not divide us. Don't fall back on the usual shortsighted bickering. This is an example of WHY so many of us strongly support him. He'll consider A L L his options and choose the people he believes are best for his administration.

Did you think his talk of unity was only for campaign speeches? He obviously meant every word of it. How 'bout that? We have a new President-Elect who looks beyond partisan ego and personal grudges...CHANGE is happening. Go Obama!

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By Anne in London Nov 14th 2008 at 1:54 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:54 pm EST)

it's just fake tough -

yes, it is. she voted for the Iraq War, with a damning lack of judgement and a probable desire to be ballsy in a very macho political culture.

during the primaries, she spoke with gusto of her willingness to nuke Iran ...

secretary of state - well, great way to blow global goodwill and hope, guys ...

and hush all this talk of lining up behind our president - didn't we have more than enough of that with George Bush? can't you SEE where that led??

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By CHELSEA Nov 14th 2008 at 7:41 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 7:41 pm EST)

But this is not about grudges--this is about mindset. Who/what thinking got us into Iraq? Bush and Clinton, I don't want more of the same.
At least Hagel was agaisnt the war, I'd rather see the job go to him.
This is not about disliking Clinton--I DO like many things about her, but not her in lock step with the Bush Doctrine--no thank you!

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By CHELSEA Nov 14th 2008 at 7:44 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 7:44 pm EST)

Anne in London--you hit the nail on the head!
Cheers,
Chelsea

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By CHELSEA Nov 14th 2008 at 8:47 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:47 pm EST)

Who cares about this rival business if the choice is someone who voted in lock step with Bush and his bad ideas?
There are different rivals out there who was not in lock step with Bush and his disastrous policies--pick one of them--like Chuck Hagel.
I agree you don't want "yes men/women" at the helm but damn--let's at least get some GOOD CHANGE!
A bad idea is a bad idea no matter what pretty package you wrap it up in.
The world is watching.

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By If I had wings.... Nov 14th 2008 at 10:06 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:06 pm EST)

To Tammy,
Don't despair...trust this great man and the wisdom of his choices and the paths he follows. You have so far and you know how right his leadership has been. I have never been a Hillary supporter and was glad she didn't get the nomination but I do believe she is smart, strong, and has a great deal of respect worldwide, as does Bill. My family is from England and my cousins kept writing me during the primaries seeking understanding as to why the Dems were not supporting Hillary. I don't believe John Kerry would be a good choice for Secy of State, and though I was an early Richardson for Prez supporter I have not been impressed with his presence or words. If Secy of State Hillary would offer wise, honest and direct counsel...and at times will be in real opposition to Obama. He will stand firm when he needs to and when he believes strongly in his position, yet he will listen. We know that. If he does choose Hillary then he proves his strength of character and the strength of his inner self...it is only a strong man who is able to surround himself with others who are strong. I learned this working for the best supervisor in a long career in univ. administration. Tammy, just don't give up so easily on a great man who you have followed for so very long! He will lift us to greatness...and I turn 61 next month and have waited forty years to witness this event. Hang in there!

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By Tammy Nov 14th 2008 at 5:46 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 5:46 am EST)

Don't confuse tough with nasty. Hillary is not tough - she's nasty.

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By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 14th 2008 at 11:00 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:00 am EST)

I hear you Tammy!

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By Victoria Nov 14th 2008 at 7:07 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 7:07 am EST)

I say NO. N.O.

Hillary, if Barack offers you this position, Turn. It. Down.

You earned 18,000,000 votes in this process, you are a fabulous and independent senator from New York. You spent how many years being put down by these bastards telling you that you were nothing without Bill. You finally got the respect you deserve in your own right away from these dweebs. Don't put yourself back under any man's wing. If you are offered this position, Turn. It. Down. Please.

Let him pick Colin, or anyone else, but not you Hillary. You did your part for this nation (more than your part for which you've received the respect of all that truly matter) and you did your part for the ungrateful Obama people. Now, represent your state and let these people run the office they fought so hard for. You owe nothing more.

Stay away from it Hillary. You'll regret the involvement in the long run.

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By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 14th 2008 at 11:02 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:02 am EST)

Well Victoria don't know about all what you said but I do agree she should not be SOS!!

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By jose and change Nov 14th 2008 at 1:27 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:27 pm EST)

Looks like Senator Clinton is gonna become have some more tea with foreign leaders, kidding, kidding, I'm sure she'll kick some you what, like she did on the campaign.

Maybe Bill Clinton should be secretary of the money.

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By Connie Obama (Not held hostage by polls or media) Nov 14th 2008 at 12:34 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:34 pm EST)

Victoria, did you ever do any RECENT research on Hillary and Bill during the primary? Or, did you, like so many, just go on familiarity and how things were with BILL as POTUS?

I won't bash Hillary but I also don't close my eyes or mind to FACTUAL info that is out there. So, before you start criticizing people who disagree on Hillary maybe YOU should do a little research; it's not all personal.

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By Victoria Nov 14th 2008 at 2:39 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:39 pm EST)

Hmmm...a lot of what has been said here about Hillary is nothing except personal. You;ll see this if you read up the blog. Actually, you'll know this if you are a regular reader here.

However, when Obama needed her to campaign for him in Pennsylvania, Ohio, Florida, etc., the big questions around here was "Where's Hillary? Is she doing enough to help?" Now, of course, it's another matter. It's very personal, to me, when a many around here expected/demanded her support for their own gain (delivering her states and the 18,000,000 supporters) and then the beneficiaries of her largesse have nothing but snide, insulting remarks and unflattering innuendo afterward.

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By CHELSEA Nov 14th 2008 at 8:48 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:48 pm EST)

Connie, I agree with you.

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By Geoff from Farmington, MI Nov 14th 2008 at 8:04 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:04 am EST)

The problem with Hillary is she is stubburn, pig headed, closed minded, and "never wrong". Her comments about the middle east culture in the past is the wrong choice for this country as Secretary of State. She is no different than the current administration and look what it has gotten us. We need to have someone that is open minded and not judgemental of other cultures. We need a peace maker that can walk across the line in the sand and make compromises. Whe was the last time you heard Clinton compromise with anyone.

I beg Obama not to take a huge step back and not maker her SOS. This is the not the change we need this is more of the same.

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By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 14th 2008 at 11:02 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:02 am EST)

I agree Geoff!!

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By Scott in PA Nov 14th 2008 at 11:26 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:26 am EST)

Not a fool maybe, but Secretary of State material no.

She lacks good judgment in such matters. Do you not remember the ruckus over her "obliterate Iran" comments during the primaries?

Very very poor choice. That is not change.

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By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 14th 2008 at 11:37 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:37 am EST)

I agree Scott!

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By End The War Nov 14th 2008 at 1:12 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:12 pm EST)

Gov Bill Richardson - Not enough gravitas for my tastes????

U.S. Senate Senator
U.S. Energy Secretary - Unanimously confirmed
Cut waste and created further accountability at the Dept of Energy
Two-thirds of his appointments went to women and minorities
Ambassador to the U.N.
Nominated 5 times for the Noble Peace Prize
Served as a special envoy on many sensitive international missions.
Successfully won the release of hostages, American servicemen, and prisoners in North Korea, Iraq, and Cuba. also secured the release of an Albuquerque resident who was kept hostage in Sudan.
Supported by Democrats, Republicans and Independents
Became NM Governor - Reelected by 69% of voters
Improve education, cut taxes, built a high-wage economy
Champions Environmental causes
Cut taxes for working families and raising the minimum wage
Balanced budget and the highest reserves in state history
Unemployment rate that is the lowest in state history
NM most ethnically diverse in the country.
National leader in job growth and economic momentum
Chairman of the Democratic Governor's Association
Raised more than $28 million for gubernatorial candidates
Taught courses on government at New Mexico State Univ, Harvard Univs Kennedy School of Government and the United World College
His career is in public service, academia and the private sector
Received BA from Tufts and a MA from Tuft's Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy in 1971.
Chair of Freedom House, a private, non-partisan organization that promotes democracy worldwide
Can bring in the Hispanic and Latino voters
Speaks Spanish
Was one of the first big Democrats to endorse Barrack

from:
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By Sariti Nov 14th 2008 at 8:11 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:11 am EST)

FOR ALMOST TWO YEARS NOW,WE DEVOTED TIME AND MONEYBECAUSE WE TRUSTED OUR PRESIDENT-ELECT'S VISION OF CHANGE AND FRESH START OF AMERICA'S PROMISE AND NEW KIND OF POLITICS.

HE WON AND WE WON

HILLARY CLINTON'S CHOICE FOR SECRETARY OF STATE
WILL NEGATE EVERYTHING:
-IT IS NOT CHANGE
-FOREIGN POLICY OF PRE-EMPTIVE WARS& NO DIPLOMACY
-BILL CLINTON & HIS FOREIGN MONEY INTEREST
-SHE TRASHED HIM (EVEN HIS LIFE AS SHE INVOKED JFK'S ASSASINATION) AND USED RACIAL RMKS
-THIS CHOICE WILL SIGNAL THAT HE IS,AS SHE PUT IT "NAIVE" AND SHE "THE EXPERT" IS SOUGHT AFTER
-LOSS OF ALL THE MID-WESTERN STATES THAT VOTED FOR HIM
-LOSS OF TRUST BETWEEN US AND PRESIDENT-ELECT
PLEASE PRESIDENT OBAMA! DO NOT BREAK OUR HEART

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By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 14th 2008 at 10:55 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:55 am EST)

I agree Sara!!

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By CHELSEA Nov 14th 2008 at 7:49 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 7:49 pm EST)

Bill Richardson would make a great SOS, Clinton would make a great SOH&HS. This is not about personal attacks.

Thank you for the info on Richardson!!!!

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By JonnieRae Nov 14th 2008 at 11:58 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:58 pm EST)

Yes, End the War. Richardson, Richardson, Richardson.He has the education for it (Fletcher School of Diplomacy) and the experience for it, and people like him. This is important in diplomatic work. His Presidential race is inconsequential in this decision. Richardson. He's right and the Latinos expect it. They turned out for BO...gave him the West. Hilary is not qualified. in her GE campaigning she was doing herself as much good as BO. She had to rehabilitate her image and Bill too. Many think her seat in NY will not be so easy to win this time. The campaigning for BO was in her interest. I hate her positions on foreign policy. I can't imagine her "taking orders" from BO. I can't imagine Bill Clinton keeping his mouth shut. I can't imagine anything good coming out of this. And I know Barack puts the good of the country first. So I don't get the leak of this info. He has to give it to her now, I guess.

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By JonnieRae Nov 15th 2008 at 12:07 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:07 am EST)

Yes, End the War. Richardson, Richardson, Richardson.He has the education for it (Fletcher School of Diplomacy) and the experience for it, and people like him. This is important in diplomatic work. His Presidential race is inconsequential in this decision. Richardson. He's right and the Latinos expect it. They turned out for BO...gave him the West. Hilary is not qualified. in her GE campaigning she was doing herself as much good as BO. She had to rehabilitate her image and Bill too. Many think her seat in NY will not be so easy to win this time. The campaigning for BO was in her interest. I hate her positions on foreign policy. I can't imagine her "taking orders" from BO. I can't imagine Bill Clinton keeping his mouth shut. I can't imagine anything good coming out of this. And I know Barack puts the good of the country first. So I don't get the leak of this info. He has to give it to her now, I guess.

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By Sariti Nov 14th 2008 at 8:14 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:14 am EST)

FOR ALMOST TWO YEARS NOW,WE DEVOTED TIME AND MONEYBECAUSE WE TRUSTED OUR PRESIDENT-ELECT'S VISION OF CHANGE AND FRESH START OF AMERICA'S PROMISE AND NEW KIND OF POLITICS.

HE WON AND WE WON

HILLARY CLINTON'S CHOICE FOR SECRETARY OF STATE
WILL NEGATE EVERYTHING:
-IT IS NOT CHANGE
-FOREIGN POLICY OF PRE-EMPTIVE WARS& NO DIPLOMACY
-BILL CLINTON & HIS FOREIGN MONEY INTEREST
-SHE TRASHED HIM (EVEN HIS LIFE AS SHE INVOKED JFK'S ASSASINATION) AND USED RACIAL RMKS
-THIS CHOICE WILL SIGNAL THAT HE IS,AS SHE PUT IT "NAIVE" AND SHE "THE EXPERT" IS SOUGHT AFTER
-LOSS OF ALL THE MID-WESTERN STATES THAT VOTED FOR HIM
-LOSS OF TRUST BETWEEN US AND PRESIDENT-ELECT
PLEASE PRESIDENT OBAMA! DO NOT BREAK OUR HEART

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By ♥ Tanya ♥ Nov 14th 2008 at 10:54 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:54 am EST)

She needs to go through Confirmation Hearings by Congress if selected. Let's just wait and see what happens.

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By CHELSEA Nov 14th 2008 at 7:58 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 7:58 pm EST)

Though Hillary's behavior disgusted me during the primaries, I have forgiven her.
My being agaisnt her for SOS is not personal. She voted for GWB's war and has been in lock step with him on foreign policy--this is what we don't need. There will be other places for Mrs. Clinton--such as in health care reform and the like--this is her strong suit--NOT WORLD AFFAIRS.
Yes, we want diversity--include Hagel.

The world is watching--we want a new administration with the diplomacy first--war last mentality that is why we need a man like Richardson for the job. No more shoot first ask questions later Bush, McCain and yes, Clinton mentality. She supported Bush--that is why she lost the nomination, had it not been for her support of Bush, she would have won.
Barack Obama won me over with his different mindset of the Bush Doctrine.

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By ladyof wisdom Nov 14th 2008 at 1:17 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:17 pm EST)

I agree hrc is not the best choice for sos. I believe they are trying to force his hand. It is so clinton like to leak this information to the press for personal. I still believe obama would've have won w/o the clinton's. they only lobbyist obama should be concern about pleasing are the millions of voters who voted for him. The clinton's time is over the people have spoken they don't won't their kind of politics anymore. You cannot go back and forward at the same time. If he chooses someone new we the voters will stand with him. we know that every decision he makes will not be perfect. He told us this election was about us and the majority of us don't want hrc as sos.

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By ladyof wisdom Nov 14th 2008 at 1:19 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:19 pm EST)

I agree hrc is not the best choice for sos. I believe they are trying to force his hand. It is so clinton like to leak this information to the press for personal. I still believe obama would've have won w/o the clinton's. they only lobbyist obama should be concern about pleasing are the millions of voters who voted for him. The clinton's time is over the people have spoken they don't won't their kind of politics anymore. You cannot go back and forward at the same time. If he chooses someone new we the voters will stand with him. we know that every decision he makes will not be perfect. He told us this election was about us and the majority of us don't want hrc as sos.

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By ladyof wisdom Nov 14th 2008 at 1:20 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:20 pm EST)

I agree hrc is not the best choice for sos. I believe they are trying to force his hand. It is so clinton like to leak this information to the press for personal. I still believe obama would've have won w/o the clinton's. they only lobbyist obama should be concern about pleasing are the millions of voters who voted for him. The clinton's time is over the people have spoken they don't won't their kind of politics anymore. You cannot go back and forward at the same time. If he chooses someone new we the voters will stand with him. we know that every decision he makes will not be perfect. He told us this election was about us and the majority of us don't want hrc as sos.

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By ladyof wisdom Nov 14th 2008 at 1:22 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:22 pm EST)

I agree hrc is not the best choice for sos. I believe they are trying to force his hand. It is so clinton like to leak this information to the press for personal. I still believe obama would've have won w/o the clinton's. they only lobbyist obama should be concern about pleasing are the millions of voters who voted for him. The clinton's time is over the people have spoken they don't won't their kind of politics anymore. You cannot go back and forward at the same time. If he chooses someone new we the voters will stand with him. we know that every decision he makes will not be perfect. He told us this election was about us and the majority of us don't want hrc as sos.

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By ladyof wisdom Nov 14th 2008 at 1:24 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:24 pm EST)

I agree hrc is not the best choice for sos. I believe they are trying to force his hand. It is so clinton like to leak this information to the press for personal. I still believe obama would've have won w/o the clinton's. they only lobbyist obama should be concern about pleasing are the millions of voters who voted for him. The clinton's time is over the people have spoken they don't won't their kind of politics anymore. You cannot go back and forward at the same time. If he chooses someone new we the voters will stand with him. we know that every decision he makes will not be perfect. He told us this election was about us and the majority of us don't want hrc as sos.

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By ladyof wisdom Nov 14th 2008 at 1:27 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:27 pm EST)

I agree hrc is not the best choice for sos. I believe they are trying to force his hand. It is so clinton like to leak this information to the press for personal. I still believe obama would've have won w/o the clinton's. they only lobbyist obama should be concern about pleasing are the millions of voters who voted for him. The clinton's time is over the people have spoken they don't won't their kind of politics anymore. You cannot go back and forward at the same time. If he chooses someone new we the voters will stand with him. we know that every decision he makes will not be perfect. He told us this election was about us and the majority of us don't want hrc as sos.

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By LaShanda (GRAB A MOP!) Nov 14th 2008 at 12:24 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:24 am EST)

Oh why, Oh why do we let the MSM play with our heads like this!!!??

Don't you see what they are trying to do, they want to start a democratic party fight. They want to pit us against each other again.

Please don't buy into this crap. Please.

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By Suzanne from CT Nov 14th 2008 at 12:28 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:28 am EST)

Thanks, LaShanda, you're absolutely right.
We won't buy into this crap. :)
We stay united.

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By Dinerlee Nov 14th 2008 at 12:38 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:38 am EST)

I think you're right--it doesn't make sense that they would leak this.
Do you think people who WANT the jobs are doing fake leaks?

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By Lucy Hussein Nov 14th 2008 at 2:16 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:16 am EST)

Okay, you guys are awesome. Here I was getting all riled up about this rumor that news outlets have been making a huge deal of. All I could think is, this isn't like the Obama team...they wouldn't release this to either start infighting or get up the hopes of the still-disgruntled anti-Obama Hillary supporters only to make them more put off about what they think she 'deserves.' Already I've seen little comment wars between Hillary haters (which I am not) and Hillary lovers (which I also am not). It's an unwelcome blast from the not-so-long-ago past. And here I was, starting to like her again only to be reminded of her lack of regard for Barack, her meetings at the convention about possibly running against him again, the shadow of Bill...I just don't want to think about the possibility of her holding such a high-power position. All I can think of is Salmon Chase, Lincoln's Sec of Treasury. Lincoln basically hired all his opponents, and most of them in the end became his most ardent supporters, with the exception of Chase, who was forever plotting to take the presidency for himself. I know Barack is 'obsessed' with this 'Team of Rivals' thing that Lincoln worked, but history proves that keeping your rivals close to you doesn't always turn out in your favor. Hillary is a great senator. I hope she continues her current job.

But you're all right. This is still in mere rumor category. Sometimes I forget that the press is a business fueled by provocative news bites--not a news service employed to dutifully serve the news when told. STILL. If this is an unfounded rumor, I'm pretty upset that this would have leaked. I guess they're still not too good at Capitol Hill Tupperware maintenance (i.e. Rahm getting leaked). But really, I just don't even want to think about

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By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 14th 2008 at 12:28 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:28 am EST)

I agree Pamela! She is not a good choice!

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By Paula from Appalachia eastern Kentucky Nov 14th 2008 at 12:33 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:33 am EST)

well, just me thinking this, but the campaign has been leak-proof all along so my thought is that these recent "leaks" are just people not associated with Obama-Biden. Rather, it's just some sort of nether-people trying to make news.

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By ◎Desert Dove Dan◎ Nov 14th 2008 at 12:42 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:42 am EST)

Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding! We've got a winner folks!

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By Paula from Appalachia eastern Kentucky Nov 14th 2008 at 12:53 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:53 am EST)

(((big hug))) Dan!
We Piecemakers for Obama are ALWAYS winners, lol!
Did you get my photo for the new improved quilters video?

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By ◎Desert Dove Dan◎ Nov 14th 2008 at 1:17 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:17 am EST)

I only have the one photo of you that I used in both of the quilt videos. Do you have another one? If not, can I use the one I have for the bloggers video?

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By Paula from Appalachia eastern Kentucky Nov 14th 2008 at 1:24 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:24 am EST)

Sending you one now before i head off to bed!

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By Lace; Yes We Did Nov 14th 2008 at 1:21 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:21 am EST)

:)

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By LaShanda (GRAB A MOP!) Nov 14th 2008 at 12:48 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:48 am EST)

Thank you!!!! Geesh, I feel like I need a bull-horn for all these liberal blogs. And Huffingtonpost has turned into nothing but an online MSM.

Obama is laying low and they have nothing to report right now. These people are not advisers, they don't have no real insight. So they make up these stories and the press runs with it like it's gospel.

What did OUR man say, "there is a lot of disinformation out there." Enough said.

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By Paula from Appalachia eastern Kentucky Nov 14th 2008 at 12:54 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:54 am EST)

thank you LaShanda!
I was feeling all alone and screaming at MSM and HuffPo as well (and I'm a HuffPo blogger!!!!!)

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By Straighttalker Nov 14th 2008 at 12:36 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:36 am EST)

I agree, too. This is not the change we voted for.
Chuck Hagel would be the best Secty. of State, and Gen. Wesley Clarke the best Secty. of Defence.

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By LaShanda (GRAB A MOP!) Nov 14th 2008 at 12:46 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:46 am EST)

Let's have some straight talk. Why are you in validating anything from MSM?

You clearly voted for change, meaning you know that our President-elect runs a tight ship.

Do you really see him anchoring a leaky boat like we've seen all week.

Secondly, every time I hear someone say they voted for change, I think they don't really know what Obama meant by change.

And from what I've seen so far, he's given us nothing but change. Tight lobbying rules for transition, change.gov (opening the doors of government back the people).

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By Wanda from Valencia, CA Nov 14th 2008 at 1:02 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:02 am EST)

Chuck Hagel would be a fantastic Secretary of State. It would also show that Obama was reaching across the isle.

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By Obama Grandmama Nov 14th 2008 at 2:31 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:31 am EST)

CHANGE-
I agree with you La Shanda in that I have been thinking that "change" represents different things to each person. I've heard some people make negative remarks because Obama has picked people to advise him that have experience and political history, as if that does not mean change. These people equate change with outsider, inexperienced people. Barack has said he wants "change" in how government is run, not necessarily change in whom is in government. He believes in being surrounded by experts not yes people.
Like Lincoln and his Team of Rivals Barack wants to hear as many points of view as possible before he makes his decisions. He has said the Commander-In-Chief sets the mission. His desire for change in lobbyists'influence has already begun. Advisors chosen by Obama will need to follow his lead.
BO has said he is imperfect and will make mistakes, but he will listen to us. Michelle has said that his strength is in realizing when he doesn't know something and seeking answers from experts. I have chosen to support President-Elect Barack Hussein Obama for many reasons and know he cannot fix everything that is wrong. I support him in his effort and judgment to help us as best he can. I hope you will too.

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By Victoria Nov 14th 2008 at 7:34 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 7:34 am EST)

Hillary, I want you to read LaShanda of the "don't let the MSM divide us" previous post and her current reference to your potential appointment as nothing more than an attempt by Obama to "anchor his leaky boat." Nuff said.

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By LaShanda (GRAB A MOP!) Nov 14th 2008 at 9:10 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 9:10 am EST)

Clearly you are one of those many children that Bush left behind.

Try learning to read!

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By Ari Nov 14th 2008 at 12:53 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:53 am EST)

Now all of a sudden... you know what's good for the new administration... I thought you hired someone you trusted to make decisions for you... You don't have all the inside informations... so just sit back and wait for the President Elect to make a decision... Relax, everything will be fine!

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By Nov. 5th 2008 "Mission Accomplished," Ben from Monroe, NY HAPPY ELECTION DAY!!!! Nov 14th 2008 at 1:45 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:45 am EST)

A = Anybody

B = But

C = Clinton

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By Stephen C. Rose in NYC Nov 14th 2008 at 6:55 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 6:55 am EST)

McCain?
Palin?

Let Andrea have her fun. It is all speculation.

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By BIGO Nov 14th 2008 at 6:56 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 6:56 am EST)

I am so proud of your comment. You took the words right out of my mouth. If you trust someone, and you hire them to do a job; why question their every decision or maybe non-decision. Come on family, let's have some faith in our president. We trust that he will make the right choices in order to help him do this very difficult job of governing.

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By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 14th 2008 at 11:05 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:05 am EST)

Amen!!!

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By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 14th 2008 at 10:56 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:56 am EST)

I hear you Ismat!

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By Eric from Oklahoma City, OK Nov 14th 2008 at 2:13 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:13 am EST)

We can't turn back.

Check out the following link for a blog that is all about Obama.

Link

ObamaEqualsChange.com

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By Charles from New York Nov 14th 2008 at 2:20 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:20 am EST)

James, I couldn't agree more.

And, for the other participants on this blog, please, please, remember that Barack has told us repeatedly to stay vigilant and to express our opinions. Let me quote from something Barack himself said, back in 2007: "You can elect a president who says all the right things, but if the American people aren't energized and mobilized to put pressure and hold our government officials accountable, then the lobbyists and the special interests will intervene, they will block, they will parry and they will prevent the kind of change that is needed."

This is not only our right; it is our very solemn obligation.

Barack is not all-knowing; he is not all wise. One of the unspoken premises of his decision to keep us organized and active is that he is imperfect and that we can serve, in part, as the canary in the coal mine if he should stray. We should not shirk that duty; we should embrace it.

Specifically, with regard to Hillary as Secretary of State, yes, there are signficant areas of disagreement with Obama, particularly on Iran, which, in and of themselves should give us pause. But there are larger over-arching reasons why she would just not work out. One of the most important is that her selection would send a mixed signal to the rest of the world: Does Barack want to turn the page on our Middle East policies? Does he want to engage with countries like Iran and build a new day? If so, people would ask whether his Secretary of State was really dedicated to the Obama vision. Hillary might actually be sincerely interested in assisting Obama; she might really be ready to adopt his agenda rather than her own when it comes to those issues. But people around the world could be excused if they found themselves wondering how seriously she was prepared to promote and support those policies. That, in of and of itself, constitutes a fatal distraction which probably is the most definitive argument I can think of as to why she simply is not what Barack needs at this time.

Health and Human Services? Sure. Attorney-General? Perhaps. But State is the one department where Hillary would find her own record, her own statements, standing in direct contradiction with the principles espoused by Obama. And that's a deal-killer.

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By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 14th 2008 at 10:57 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:57 am EST)

I agree Charles!!

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By Charles from New York Nov 14th 2008 at 11:13 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:13 am EST)

Thank you, Debbie.

One other point: On foreign policy Obama's administration needs to speak with a clear voice. It's one of those areas where you can't be both pro-life and pro-choice, as it were. Do you favor direct unconditional diplomacy with Iran or don't you? Do you favor direct diplomatic engagement with Venezuela? Or North Korea? Or Cuba? Or don't you? There's no squaring that circle.

And there are distinguished able leaders on both sides of those critical questions. With regard to the list that's floating out there for Secretary of State, John Kerry, Bill Richardson and Chuck Hagel basically are in agreement with Barack Obama on those questions. Hillary Clinton has not been in agreement. Neither, for that matter, is Richard Holbrooke, another Clintonista whose name has been floated as a possible Secretary of State. In fact, Holbrooke was one of those voices in the Kerry campaign who argued most vociferously AGAINST coming out against the Iraq war and for a date certain for withdrawal, as Arianna Huffington has so ably reported.

All of these people are worthy and serious and qualified leaders. But the slots they should occupy should fit the need. We need a serious approach to the enforcement of law and to the reform of health care. Hillary Clinton would be able to provide that with no problem. Richard Holbrooke would provide deep historical knowledge and proven ability which would be invaluable working in a deputy non-policy position. He would not be the right fit in a foreign policy position.

These are distinctions and subtleties which one needs to keep in mind. I'm sure Barack Obama is doing exactly that, but he needs to read our arguments and note the success or failure of them in debate, a sort of see-how-they-run exercise. I believe, to some extent, that is the purpose that is served by our discussion here. Never let it be said that such discussion, or indeed doubt, concerning possible decisions of our President-elect is inappropriate. On the contrary, I believe that may be a large part of the reason why the campaign has decided to keep this forum open.

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By Connie Obama (Not held hostage by polls or media) Nov 14th 2008 at 12:51 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:51 pm EST)

Attorney General? How can you be AG when you are still embroiled in your own fraud case which should have resumed on NOv 5th?

People, get up to speed and this will help you seperate fact from fiction when these leaks come. The media cannot possibly be this dumb or unaware of the situations, so I assume they keep quiet so they can stir the pot for ratings.

An example: Barack never overlooked Hillary for VP. She refused to be vetted and Bill had always said he would not disclose his list of donors! Now, wouldn't that be important to consider for SOS or Supreme Ct Justice?

Andrea Mitchell words aren't gospel! She was famous for "leaking" all things Hillary during and after the primary. She also said right on the air once that she did not like Barack!

It'a all rumors until we hear it from Barack!!!!

Thanks Lashanda for your calm, insightful post upthread.

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By Victoria Nov 14th 2008 at 3:31 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 3:31 pm EST)

According to Hillary and Barack, she simply wasn't vetted. She was not asked for a single piece of information. That said, Hillary and Bill Clinton are probably the most "vetted" people on this planet.

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By Connie Obama (Not held hostage by polls or media) Nov 14th 2008 at 8:15 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:15 pm EST)

Victoria, Victoria, Victoria, Hillary wasn't vetted because she REFUSED to be vetted. Also, Bill said throughout the primary that he would NOT release his list of library donors, some of whom are foreign countries.

You clearly do not have the facts or refuse to acknowledge them. And no, the media has NOT vetted them. If you think they have tell me when will Judge Munoz resume their trial in LA?

Again, facts.

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By Derrek from Plainfield, NJ Nov 14th 2008 at 2:24 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:24 am EST)

I agree, Hillary is an intersting choice, is Obama straying away from his original stand, or is there pressure from the democractic party.

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By Unknown user Nov 14th 2008 at 3:54 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 3:54 am EST)

my feet is tired but my soul is rested - the rest is history

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By Stephen C. Rose in NYC Nov 14th 2008 at 6:48 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 6:48 am EST)

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By Cheryl from Boston Feels the Gift Nov 14th 2008 at 8:39 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:39 am EST)

Phew!

So glad to see all of our BO-PEEPS Fired Up and Telling OUR BO HOW WE SEE IT! Good for US!

Whatever the "scheme" launched by the "leak", I dare say BO wants to HEAR from US! That is how I see the "leak"--what do the BO-PEEPS have to say about the possibility--as well I do believe it is to give "face" to Hill.

However, Dear President-Elect Obama DO Hear our collective Voices! NO to Hillary for Sec of State--The reasons are compound and obvious!

NO to Lieberman! Lieberman needs to be punished and not to mention he sucks at his post and did NOTHING--and could be dangerous for you if he keeps it (I get keeping enemies close...but no one wants him on either side! So OUT he goes. He can NEVER be trusted, besides Connecticut will oust him next time around....! We have a few Republicans like Cynthia Snow to join us on important issues to clinch that 60! Let's trust in the bi-partisan government you want to grab and we may just end up getting you a second term because of it!

Keep posting BO-Peeps! Our Barack does want to hear from us. I may not be succinct this morning but my answer is an emphatic NO to Hillary as Sec. of State and NO to keep Lieberman!

We will take root in our process yet!
Besitos y Paz,
Cheryl in Boston

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By Stephen C. Rose in NYC Nov 14th 2008 at 9:01 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 9:01 am EST)

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By Stephen C. Rose in NYC Nov 14th 2008 at 10:17 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:17 am EST)

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By Yvonne--- for World Peace Nov 14th 2008 at 10:43 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:43 am EST)

“I’m a practical-minded guy. And, you know, one of my heroes is Abraham Lincoln. And a while back there was a wonderful book written by Doris Kearns Goodwin called ‘Team of Rivals.” Lincoln basically pulled in all the people who had been running against him into his Cabinet because whatever personal feelings there were, the issue was how can we get this country through this time of crisis. And I think that has to be the approach that one takes, whether it’s vice president or Cabinet, whoever.”– Barack Obama

(I’m headed to Amazon to get this book. Should be an interesting read.)

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By ♥ Tanya ♥ Nov 14th 2008 at 11:00 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:00 am EST)

:o)

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By ladyof wisdom Nov 14th 2008 at 2:05 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:05 pm EST)

look what happen to lincoln.

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By Rhonda for Barack Obama in Montgomery, Alabama Nov 14th 2008 at 11:22 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:22 am EST)

I agree with you James, Hillary Clinton will NOT be a good Choice for Secretary of State. NO!! NO!! NO!! Hillary is more in line with Republican War policies.

There has not been a War that Hillary was against. She voted for the Bush Doctrine to use force against IRAN. She voted for the Iraq War. I do not believe that Hillary knows that much about foreign policy. I hope that Barack does NOT choose her.

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By Anne in London Nov 14th 2008 at 1:52 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:52 pm EST)

I am really worried about the hawkishness of the new administration. As a Kurdish friend of mine said the other day: ' a great man, a very intelligent man ... but the same old imperialist mentality' -

We worked for Change, we organised for Change, we voted for Change ...

there is, so far, too much of the Same Old Faces ...

everyone expects a bit of disappointment, when hopes are raised so high - but please ...

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By CHELSEA Nov 14th 2008 at 7:22 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 7:22 pm EST)

I agree with you.
It's one thing for Obama to pick those who have different ideas than his--but this is too "Bush-like" for me. I would even rather see a republican given this job who opposed the war.
I say this and part of me likes Hillary-- this is not a personality issue, but what I feel is a continuation of the Bush Doctrine--NO WAY!

If Clinton must be in the Admininstration--OK, appoint her Sec. of Human Services--at least she is qualified for this position.
PLEASE consider Gov. Bill Richardson--he would be more effective in the Middle East and also he could have a positive impact on Latin American countries--dealing with Chavez, etc.

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By CHELSEA Nov 14th 2008 at 7:09 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 7:09 pm EST)

I agree with you 100%.
Bill Richardson is CHANGE. Gov. Richardson has the temperment for this job and the experience--Clinton does not.
Obama spoke of changing the "mindset" that got us into GWB's war during the campaign--what signal is he sending by appointing Clinton?
What about her "I will obliterate Iran" statement? Is that not as bad or worse than McCain's "Bomb, Bomb, Bomb, Bomb, Iran?"
After 8 years of GWB, I want no such mentality in dealing with world issues, that's more of the SAME.

I love Obama and Joe, but this is a BAD MOVE.

Hillary Clinton does have political/intellectual talent that would be better served as Sec.of Health and Human Service capacity--or Attorney General--NOT SEC. OF STATE!!!!
I will be very upset if she is chosen for this position. My support may not be here anymore.

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By The old man and the sea ... Nov 14th 2008 at 8:18 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:18 pm EST)

Come on President Elect ... you are the main man ... the Futue President of the USA ....

Show your strength and guts ... the same strength and guts that got you this far ...

The only reason that Hillary wants to be Secretary of State ... under her conditions and terms .... lol lol lol lol .... is that Teddy Kennedy has taken the wind out of her sails regarding Health Care ...

Mr. Future President ... your home page implies ... don't look back ... look forward ... picking a Clinton is looking back ... at the very least be your own person ... we want change ... the Clintons are out for now ... they were the past ... the Obamas are the now and the future .... the United States is very fortunate ... pick another person for Secretary of State ... please please please ..

Sincerely ... Gordon

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By Paul from Groves, TX Nov 17th 2008 at 8:05 pm EST (Updated Nov 17th 2008 at 8:05 pm EST)

Billary is not acceptable for so many reasons it hard to start. Forget about how immoral the clintons are, what about picking someone with some foreign experience besides "coming under sniper fire in Bosnia". I had positive wishes for Obama, but if he picks Billary for SOS, I will be giving support to anyone against him. I am starting to doubt his judgment just for considering her. Please listen to you inner voice for good Barack & please turn away from evil.

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By Carl from Ukiah, CA Nov 17th 2008 at 9:27 pm EST (Updated Nov 17th 2008 at 9:27 pm EST)

I agree on that totally. I voted for Barack, but am under only the tiniest illusion that change will be effective. This for the reasons you stated, as well as his good wishes to traitor Lieberman. Joe has given us reason to line him up with the rest of the Bush gang when (if) change comes to town. Not holding my breath on that one. I will not ever vote Democrat (or Repug) again if this is yet another betrayal. I have betrayal fatigue. If these Dems do not perform for CHANGE I will not ever stop encouraging everyone to work against them as hard as we can starting with Pelosi and her ilk.

The "change" that people I know want is a return to Constitutional law, which includes accountability for the outragous and ongoing crimes of the Bush gang. Only this, along with truth and reconciliation for what has been happening for at least the last 8 years, will steer us in the correct direction. Without that it's just more useless rhetoric.

The Democrats have no excuses now, and packing the house with people who put Israel's lawless desires above our law is not encouraging.

My hope is that Obama's "political capitol" is used to further our ideals and is not squandered on wickedness like Bush's.

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By . Nov 14th 2008 at 12:13 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:13 am EST)

:)

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By Marcia--One who believes in Dreams! Nov 14th 2008 at 8:11 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:11 am EST)

Can someone tell me what's up with the so-called "bundlers" and the transition team? I'm just a little confused and don't have time to read it all...off to work! Thanks and have a great day all!!

Trusting the PE | Report to Admin

By Jayzee Nov 14th 2008 at 12:24 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:24 am EST)

Hi Fellow Bloggers,
Close to the top! YEAH!

Whenever I've had a concern about what the President Elect is about to do- I wait and see and ultimately- he has demonstrated an ability to make the best possible decision at every avenue.

We're stressing over what the Pundits are putting out. I'll believe it - when it's announced by our team.

Jayzee- not so quick to criticize

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By Suzanne from CT Nov 14th 2008 at 12:27 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:27 am EST)

Thanks, Jay.
I second that.
:)

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By ♥ dreamweaver "Grab A Mop" ♥ aka Vicki from Iowa Nov 14th 2008 at 12:32 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:32 am EST)

Thanks Jay
I third that.

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By Lace; Yes We Did Nov 14th 2008 at 1:21 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:21 am EST)

fourth

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By MR TODD C. TOURE Nov 14th 2008 at 12:27 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:27 pm EST)

FIFTH AND FOREMOST GENIUS HAS A WAY OF SHOWING BIG AT BIG TIMES-THIS DEFINETLY ONE OF THEM-REMEMBER HE ULTIMATELY RUNS THE SHIP.

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By MR TODD C. TOURE Nov 14th 2008 at 12:28 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:28 pm EST)

FIFTH AND FOREMOST GENIUS HAS A WAY OF SHOWING BIG AT BIG TIMES-THIS DEFINETLY ONE OF THEM-REMEMBER HE ULTIMATELY RUNS THE SHIP.

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By MR TODD C. TOURE Nov 14th 2008 at 12:32 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:32 pm EST)

FIFTH AND FOREMOST GENIUS HAS A WAY OF SHOWING BIG AT BIG TIMES-THIS DEFINETLY ONE OF THEM-REMEMBER HE ULTIMATELY RUNS THE SHIP.

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By Suzanne from CT Nov 14th 2008 at 1:37 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:37 pm EST)

Caps Lock stuck again? ;)
Thanks for your support and trust in Obama anyhow :)

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By CHELSEA Nov 15th 2008 at 12:31 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:31 am EST)

Once they announce it, it's too late.

God Bless President-Elect Obama | Report to Admin

By ShellySong♫ Live Life To The Fullest♫ Nov 14th 2008 at 12:35 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:35 am EST)

He's inheriting a political mess. MSM, pundits, opposition and even some who say they support him are second, third and fourth guessing what he's going to do; he hasn't even taken the oath of office yet. He said he wasn't perfect, he said that there would be mistakes - true because he's a human being.

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By ♥ dreamweaver "Grab A Mop" ♥ aka Vicki from Iowa Nov 14th 2008 at 12:39 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:39 am EST)

Thanks for your insight Michelle. A voice of reason is what we need.

Hugs, Vicki

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By ShellySong♫ Live Life To The Fullest♫ Nov 14th 2008 at 12:51 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:51 am EST)

Hugs back at you!!!

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By Czarina Vero - who loves her new President - OBAMA!!!!! Nov 14th 2008 at 12:53 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:53 am EST)

Michelle, it's not just a political mess, its a real-deal governing mess as well. I just read this article, and we all should - it's a nice reminder that Obama is only HUMAN. Link

I was criticizing, questioning, and complaining about this news report earlier, but I've let it go. There is no need to go on and on and on complaining and criticizing and lamenting this scoop courtesy of Andrea Mitchell.

We need to remember that faced with temptations to slash and burn, to go the easy route and bow down to the pressure to pick other folks as a VP, to change who he was and to change his message - Obama stayed consistent and kept us in mind. He's not only concerned with winning, he's concerned with governing. If he believes certain players will work in his administration, then I have to believe he knows better than me.

So, I trust my President-to-be. Despite any shortcoming he may have, I believe that he wants the best for our country. I may not like some of his choices. I may not understand the hows and the whys of his decisions. But I do understand that PE Obama is MY CHOICE and until he gives me reason not to, I will continue to trust him. In fact, we really don't have much of a choice at this point - he's our President.

So rather than negativity and unnecessary criticizing, we should continue to pray, hope, wish, send positive vibes - do whatever - to lift him up and give him clarity and strength.

On that note, good night.

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By ShellySong♫ Live Life To The Fullest♫ Nov 14th 2008 at 1:12 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:12 am EST)

Thanks for sharing the article. It's a reminder of sacrifice and just a glimspe of the many sacrifices one has to make as POTUS when you have his type of character. I believe he loves his family and our country and he is the best person for the tasks that lie ahead.

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By Lucy Hussein Nov 14th 2008 at 2:34 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:34 am EST)

Yes, thanks for the link. I have been thinking about how hard it must be emotionally to go from being with 'normal' people every day in all these residential places and having your life revolve around the average citizen....to suddenly dropping out of the public eye surrounded with security and powerful people vying for your attention.

I remember back in 2000, these people started a huge prayer network for Pres. Bush. I did not join their efforts since the perspective was that of supporting his policies, but I did join them in prayer for the president and perhaps that''s why I still bear no ill will toward him in spite of my strong opposition to many of his policies and decisions. The bottom line: our soon-to-be president and his family and admin. needs our prayers--I hope we can outdo the the last prayer network for the president.

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By Connie Obama (Not held hostage by polls or media) Nov 14th 2008 at 1:01 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:01 pm EST)

Thanks, Vero. Very calm and sensible post.

***************Reminder******* ***********

Remember the media reads this blog EVERYDAY and loves to report how Barack's supporters are criticizing him. (They have never repeated any of the factual stuff posted here). They love to use us to attack Barack's support, so please let's disagree without being disagreeable.

And we can be careful in how we voice our opinions while still showing our support for Barack. I will heed my own advice. No need to give them weapons to use against our new POTUS; he has enough enemies already.

Peace.

Thanks.

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By ShellySong♫ Live Life To The Fullest♫ Nov 14th 2008 at 1:58 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:58 pm EST)

Agreed Connie. If the MSM spent as much time and energy conducting investigative reporting on the $700B bailout issues, what would the chances be that we'd get some specific, qualitative answers as to what's really going on.

Midnight Madness Respite | Report to Admin

By ◎Desert Dove Dan◎ Nov 14th 2008 at 12:39 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:39 am EST)

If Everyone Cared

Link

Peace & Love

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By Dinerlee Nov 14th 2008 at 12:48 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:48 am EST)

Ahhhhhh-Thanks so much, I really needed that! It was beautiful.

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By Obamaismyguy! Nov 14th 2008 at 1:50 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:50 am EST)

Dan - You have inspired all of us throughout this campaign. I've been hoping that if Barack won, you would do one of your amazing videos using "Only in America" showing shots and video from the beginning of his campaign to his victory speech on Nov. 4th. Have you done that song yet, or do you know of anyone who has?

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By ◎Desert Dove Dan◎ Nov 14th 2008 at 8:59 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:59 am EST)

I actually did this one just 3 weeks ago. It does have footage from the convention in Denver among other little surprises.

Link

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By NO DRAMA, JUST OBAMA on bainbridge island WA Nov 14th 2008 at 12:40 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:40 am EST)

Thank you CJ for the open thread!

That last one got totally infested.

I am so glad you all are still here and still arguing passionately! I love my Obama family!

Lieberman | Report to Admin

By Straighttalker Nov 14th 2008 at 12:43 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:43 am EST)

Lie berman says that if he is ousted from his post, it will show that people are putting politics above national security. Is he the guardian angel of our national security? His statement is an echo of the innuendos and 'nobody else but me' strains of the McCain campaign. I am very disappointed by Barack's support of Lie bermann's status quo.

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By Suzanne from CT Nov 14th 2008 at 12:50 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:50 am EST)

Barack Obama does not support Lieberman's status quo.
The Democrats in the Senate will decide about Lieberman's fate. It's the job of the Democrates in the Senate to deal with this, not Obama's. If he's still in the senate when the Democrats vote on Lieberman, he'll have a vote. Otherwise it's not his business. He is acting exactly the way a president elect should act.

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By debbier Nov 14th 2008 at 12:55 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:55 am EST)

Obama is much more pragmatic than I am and I consider myself as openminded. That said, I would let Lieberman go if that's what he wants. I could care less whether he keeps his chairmanship but I have a serious problem with him trying to browbeat his way into keeping his chairmanship. A more conciliatory attitude would need to be offered before I would consider him.

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By Dinerlee Nov 14th 2008 at 12:56 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:56 am EST)

I hope the caucus will take care of his chairmanship next week just for making such extortionate threats--if I don't get to be chairmanship, watch out. All ego and entitlement.

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By CHELSEA Nov 14th 2008 at 8:38 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:38 pm EST)

Joe The Judas should GO!
I am tired of politics being more important than security.
As though by keeping Judas in the Dem caucas is going to stop him from voting with the republicans......oh brother.....

Leaks and discipline | Report to Admin

By debbier Nov 14th 2008 at 12:50 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:50 am EST)

My concern since the election has not been who President-Elect Barack Obama has chosen for posts or cabinet members. I am concerned about all of these leaks coming from his camp. Is he surrounding himself with less disciplined people than he did with the campaign.

There were very few leaks during the primary or general election. I pray that he find out who the sources are now and get rid of them before it is too late. "Loose lips sink ships."

I prefer to hear officially who he is considering or has chosen. I am sick of the rumors, already.

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By Czarina Vero - who loves her new President - OBAMA!!!!! Nov 14th 2008 at 12:57 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:57 am EST)

It's a concern I share as well. My guess is that there are many new low level folks on board who are trying to cash in right now.

I think he will address this issue very quietly and things should settle down.

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By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 14th 2008 at 12:59 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:59 am EST)

I just hope the links are not true!

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By Obama Grandmama Nov 14th 2008 at 2:49 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:49 am EST)

I know Andrea Mitchell was covering Hillary's campaign in the Primaries. The Clinton campaign and the McCain campaign had a lot of leaks. I also remember when the Primary was over Barack had included some former Clinton supporters and at first had some leaks whereas he hadn't had any to speak of in the Primary. I was suspicious that the leaks came from the Clinton supporters since they were not used to keeping the lips zipped. It tightened up again though. I am again suspicious it could be the Clinton supporters on Obama's team now again leaking to Andrea who may be a really good friend of the leakers. It will be resolved.

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By Ari Nov 14th 2008 at 1:01 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:01 am EST)

There are no leaks. Until you hear it from the new administration, anything that out there is just pure speculation. There is an information void out there, whenever Sarah Palin alone cannot fill the void, speculations about the new administration ensue. So, don't believe everything you hear. None of it is true except when it come from someone working for the President Elect, not some anonymous source.

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By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 14th 2008 at 1:06 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:06 am EST)

I hope you are right Arigirl!

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By Robert from Brooklyn Nov 14th 2008 at 1:51 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:51 am EST)

I agree. These people are professionals. It's their job to keep you interested. Their ratings probably went up as a result of the current stories. Look at the last blog. It worked. I would be buying advertising space, right now, on all the major news outlets.

Everyone should Google Edward Bernays. He is the father of all this media crap. There is a 4 hour documentary on Google video called the Century of Self. Propaganda today works very well. I think many of you are intelligent people but I'm amazed at how easily the media guides your thoughts. I'm not immune but I'm very aware that all my thoughts and actions may not be my own. I don't mean that literally but propaganda works. We are still using some of Hitler's tactics today.

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By CHELSEA Nov 15th 2008 at 12:46 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:46 am EST)

Don't blame Andrea Mitchell, it's ALL over the news.
One can only hope it's not true.

My original premise for supporting Obama was his opposition to the war in Iraq--that's what got me tuned in and turned on. To place a pro Iraq war Sec. Of State in his administration sends the echo of change right out the window.
Those who voted for Bush's war are no better than him.
Clinton voted for this war without even reading the briefs.
She did it for poltical expediency to get support to look "tough."
She voted for George Bush's war, that is why I could not vote for her in the primary.
She is not about change on the international front nor does she have the experience that Gov. Bill Richardson has.
To restore our credibility in the world we need those who did not side with Bush.
Hillary Clinton can continue to work here at home.

Secretary of State | Report to Admin

By Earthman Nov 14th 2008 at 12:58 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:58 am EST)

If Obama should picks Hillary as Secretary of State it will be one of his biggest blunders and the downturn of a promising administration.

Colin Powell is my choice.

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By Czarina Vero - who loves her new President - OBAMA!!!!! Nov 14th 2008 at 1:05 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:05 am EST)

Then you should run for, and win, the Presidency. Then you can make that choice.

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By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 14th 2008 at 1:05 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:05 am EST)

I agree Robert. Not a good choice!

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By debbier Nov 14th 2008 at 1:07 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:07 am EST)

I seriously doubt if Powell would accept it. Clinton would not be my choice.

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By Earthman Nov 14th 2008 at 1:18 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:18 am EST)

Debbie how did you know my name was Robert?

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By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 14th 2008 at 1:23 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:23 am EST)

When you hit reply you name is next to By

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By Lace; Yes We Did Nov 14th 2008 at 1:23 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:23 am EST)

How did you know her name was Debbie and not debbier ;-)?

When you go to reply to someone's comment, you see their real first name below the comment-typing box. For example, try replying to my comment and look down some--you'll see my real name (though my real name is the same as my username, I admit)

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By yesterdaygone : they said this day would never come Nov 14th 2008 at 1:37 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:37 am EST)

if you don't like your name showing up, click on "my home" to go to your profile, then click on "edit profile" arrow, then the "manage your account" button, then delete your name and replace it with your nickname. then hit "submit." that keep your name from popping up in reply.

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By JonnieRae Nov 14th 2008 at 1:26 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:26 am EST)

Maybe it was said on the last blog, but people really have Clinton fatigue. With Hil comes Bill. And he likes to talk and talk and talk. And the media loves to cover him and cover him and cover him. So again, we have the drama. Bill will be sure to explain just how his wife's ideas are better than BO's or how HIS are. This has to be BO's presidency. He is the leader of the Party. Could he ever fire her? I am not even getting into their differing foreign policy views or her qualifications.

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By All being Nov 14th 2008 at 1:28 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:28 am EST)

Is Hillary going to stay in Senate as she always said?

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By Nov. 5th 2008 "Mission Accomplished," Ben from Monroe, NY HAPPY ELECTION DAY!!!! Nov 14th 2008 at 1:47 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:47 am EST)

A = Anybody

B = But

C = Clinton

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By All being Nov 14th 2008 at 1:54 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:54 am EST)

Hillary has difficulty to ask her 18 million supporters to help her pay off her debts. The best for her is to continuously support Presidednt-Elct Obama as a senator. Would she like to work in Universal Health Care?

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By Glory Hussein Nov 14th 2008 at 5:36 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 5:36 am EST)

Woh woh woh... I know that we all still remember everything that Hillary had said about Barack during the primary, but let's not live in the past, let's forget about the past... I think choosing Hillary would be a very smart move; she's smart, tough, and capable of handling the job... I'm rootin' for her, change doesn't jus' mean new people, it means new ideas... Barack's agenda would be in action no matter who the Secratary of state is, so let's jus' wait and accept whoever Barack chooses. I trust him to make a smart pick.

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By CHELSEA Nov 15th 2008 at 12:57 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 12:57 am EST)

Glory,
I have forgiven Hillary for throwing the kitchen sink during the primaries--this is NOT the issue, nor is it about issues of "new faces" because I will gladly take some Clinton people to help the economy. Why I am opposed to Hillary for SOS is her voting record with George Bush.
I have no problem with Clinton dealing with domestic issues--housing, human services, etc.
This is NOT about bitterness and the past--it is far too important for that.
Her voting record is in lock step with that of Bush when it comes to international affairs--THAT IS THE PROBLEM!

Interesting article | Report to Admin

By Czarina Vero - who loves her new President - OBAMA!!!!! Nov 14th 2008 at 1:02 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:02 am EST)

...this is a different take on this idea of Hillary as SOS.

Link

Doesn't sound like it's coming from the PE transition folks at all. They did this same crap during the VP nomination.

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By Gru - a skinny kid with a funny name Nov 14th 2008 at 1:12 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:12 am EST)

I think Hillary is just trying to get Palin out of the new cycle.

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By Obama Grandmama Nov 14th 2008 at 2:57 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:57 am EST)

I know I am sick of Palin being in the news 24/7 myself.

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By yesterdaygone : they said this day would never come Nov 14th 2008 at 1:21 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:21 am EST)

helen thomas not happy with the prospect of recycled clintonistas.

Link

i think she means rahm.

In this country with so many resources, we can not let people be so poor | Report to Admin

By yeffi Nov 14th 2008 at 1:14 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:14 am EST)

i've been in rural Nevada for about five weeks to help elect Barack Obama President. I randomly selected a canvass packet and headed out every afternoon. This time i headed to a section of town where there were old broken down tailor homes on tiny lots. We were often hitting the same homes looking for the 20 somethings who where usually working multiple jobs at odd hours and hard to find. As I climbed the stairs, the floor boards were broken. Grandmother was there with two younger children. The older two were out working. The inside looked not much bigger than a shoe box. How could all those people live in that tiny space? Outside, there was no grass, no flowers, just a lot of junk cars parked on the streets and between the trailers. By the time I had visited the 30 something homes in my packet, I was pretty upset. In this country, with so many resources, so much wealth, how is it we let our children grow up in such poverty. I hope Barack will bulldozer these homes and replace them with sound structures built in America by Americans. This is not who we are. We can do better.
yeffi
yeffi@yahoo.com

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By yesterdaygone : they said this day would never come Nov 14th 2008 at 1:30 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:30 am EST)

what if that jumbo bailout for wallstreet was really meant to hamstring barack from building and leaving behind a consequential legacy?

Sigh!! | Report to Admin

By Robert from Brooklyn Nov 14th 2008 at 1:18 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:18 am EST)

...... was reading the previous blog. Boy! You guys are CHerrrrippin already. Seems like Obama will have to out flank left, right and center. He'll make us proud in the end despite all the phony outrage. No one will take his shine. So, complain if you must but put those complaints into action. Organize your own groups. Change can come from the block.

Power to the people!

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By yesterdaygone : they said this day would never come Nov 14th 2008 at 1:57 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:57 am EST)

cherrrippin? i don't know this word.

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By Robert from Brooklyn Nov 14th 2008 at 2:05 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:05 am EST)

trippin ....... was sounding out the slang, literally ..... didn't work, sorry.

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By Bev for Pres Obama from Canada Nov 14th 2008 at 1:22 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:22 am EST)

The media needs something other than Palin to talk about as she is old news so they have hit on supposed leaks saying HRC is in the running for the SOS. HRC would have to complete a very detailed application and be vetted She wasn't willing to do this for the VP position I doubt that she will do it for this. There is also a possible conflict of interest re Bills work internationally. But even if Obama did offer her a position, she would have the position only as long as her performance met with Obama's approval. If she goofed up she could be fired. HRC would be fully aware of this and she does want to run for President in 8 years. Being fired and out of the Senate would not be a positive position from which to start her bid. But it maky serve Obama to have her in his cabinet where he can control and direct her rather than in the Senate where he will have little or no control and she could cause problems if she wanted to. This is just a leak or rumour and since the source or sources were not named I tend to think that they are not all that credible. Remember all the media speculation, rumours and leaks over wether or not HRC was being concidered for the VP spot right up until Biden was named. This is all just more of the same and about just as credible. Please don't let some of the bloggers who tend to worry alot and go negative, or any of our visitors who like to get us all worked up, do just that, get us worked up and fighting.

I thought that Obama resigned from the Senate today so he will not be voting on Liebermann, ouster or chairmanships. He will have no control over the end result. By saying that he wants Joe to caucus with the dems just shows that he is not revengeful. Keep your friends close and your enemies closure.

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By JuanE. Nov 14th 2008 at 5:24 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 5:24 am EST)

I completely agree with you. Hillary is in no way qualified to be Secretary of State. Her only elected experience is that she is a junior senator. Her only management experience is a failed dis-organized campaign. Iran asked the UN to sanction her during the primaries because she said that she would annihilate them. Hiring her as SOS is not a good sign to foreign countries that the US is willing to use diplomacy before going to war.

The only thing going on here is Hillary trying her best to sabotage Obama's presidency even before he is inaugurated so that she can run in 2012. I would not vote for her under no circumstances.

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By yesterdaygone : they said this day would never come Nov 14th 2008 at 1:25 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:25 am EST)

freaky story about rahm's dad:

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is this really true?

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By Sans Doute Nov 14th 2008 at 1:55 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:55 am EST)

Emanuel apologizes for father's remarks

Obama's incoming chief-of-staff, Rahm Emanuel, apologized to an Arab-American group for his father's line when asked about his loyalties: "What is he, an Arab?"

“Today, Rep. Emanuel called Mary Rose Oakar, president of the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee, apologized on behalf of his family and offered to meet with representatives of the Arab-American community at an appropriate time in the future," said an Emanuel spokesman, Nick Papas.

The committee had written Emanuel demanding that he repudiate the remark, which could be read either as a slur against Arabs (it was followed by "He’s not going to be mopping floors at the White House") or simply as a statement of the son's loyalty to Israel, where his father lives.

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By James a Vietnam Vet from NC Nov 14th 2008 at 1:57 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:57 am EST)

Yes, evidence he is a 'terrorist' by definition.

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By ◎Desert Dove Dan◎ Nov 14th 2008 at 1:29 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:29 am EST)

Barack Obama - Earth's Cry Heaven's Smile

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Set to the soulful sound of Carlos Santana

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By Connie_W in Arizona Nov 14th 2008 at 1:31 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:31 am EST)

I just loved that video and PE Barack Obama's message. I love how he told about Kennedy's reaction to the poor.

Let's try to keep this blog real | Report to Admin

By Rock on Mr. President!! Nov 14th 2008 at 1:33 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:33 am EST)

Media fasted for a while then turned on Daly & Colbert...figured couldn't be that bad...

Aargh Reilly & Stephen Moore...
Flipped a bit...and a bitter Dobbs on HNN

Ted Turner on with Blitzer...not too bad

So I figure I'll check out the Obama blog...Aargh!!

Let's try to keep this place real and rumor free.

Unless it comes from the source then it's a rumor.
Annonymous sources are ridiculous aren't they.

Didn't our Momma's and our Poppa's raise us better: Don't believe everything you hear...something about the horses mouth.

Let's all put our heads together and try to figure out how to put out the fires of fear...

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By Yiannis aka Stephen Colber(t) for Vice Presiden(t) Nov 14th 2008 at 1:34 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:34 am EST)

Politico reports Obama is considering Hillary for Sec of state. Clinton is knowledgeable on internal affairs but she is insecure and hawkish on foreign policy.

John Podesta, Rahm Emanuel and Hillary Clinton.

If this materializes that's change we can Xerox.

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By Rock on Mr. President!! Nov 14th 2008 at 1:41 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:41 am EST)

Do you have a link?

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By yesterdaygone : they said this day would never come Nov 14th 2008 at 1:42 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:42 am EST)

i don't mind podesta. what's your problem with him?

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By yesterdaygone : they said this day would never come Nov 14th 2008 at 1:48 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:48 am EST)

keith repeated something i've argued during the primary, back when her name was getting floated as a vp prospect: hillary couldn't survive the vetting process.

~

check it out, stephen colbert rendered in lego:

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By ShellySong♫ Live Life To The Fullest♫ Nov 14th 2008 at 1:42 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:42 am EST)

Unfortunately, my job ended on 10/31 so my current job is conducting the job search. Fortunately, I get to read the papers and watch the media so that I can hear first hand what's being reported. This "bailout" issue is a joke and it's not acceptable to me that we haven't been told with specifics what's going on, it's absolutely crazy that our reps don't know. I'm considering writing a letter but thought it would have a greater impact if we all submitted a letter to our senators/reps and to our local news media. One letter with one signature may be overlooked but one letter with hundreds or thousands of signatures may not be so easily overlooked. We need to know what is going on and I believe we have a right to know well before January 20th. If this current administration wants to go on vacation, then they can do it on their dime on January 21st. If you're interested in participating, send me an email at mflagg@nc.rr.com.

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By Bev for Pres Obama from Canada Nov 14th 2008 at 2:00 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:00 am EST)

Hi
I don't feel that there is a need to start panicking or demanding a lot of answers. The admin probably has about 500 or more people it needs to hire between now and Jan 20th. Barack did say that he would not be announcing and Secretaries before December. He will tell us when he knows something and not before Everything is all speculation and rumors from unnamed sources which is as good as no source. So we must just stay calm and patient and wait for news from Obama or his admin. No one else can speak for him. Patience, Patience Patience.

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By ShellySong♫ Live Life To The Fullest♫ Nov 14th 2008 at 2:10 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:10 am EST)

Bev,
You've misunderstood my issue. I'm not asking for answers about the Obama administration appointments. I want answers about the $700M bailout package. Seems that almost half has been spent and it wasn't spent as originally presented and it remains as to what is going to be directly allocated to help Main St. U.S.A.

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By Bev for Pres Obama from Canada Nov 14th 2008 at 2:27 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:27 am EST)

My apologize for misunderstanding. On the bailout issue I agree with you 100%.

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By yesterdaygone : they said this day would never come Nov 14th 2008 at 1:53 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:53 am EST)

you think the campaign ever thought to round up and reserve a certain amount of inaugural tickets for their grassroots supporters?

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By Mason City 4 Obama Nov 14th 2008 at 7:11 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 7:11 am EST)

I'm sure hoping so...does anyone have any information? Or are the tickets only available through the congress?

BailOUTRAGE !!! | Report to Admin

By Sans Doute Nov 14th 2008 at 2:13 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:13 am EST)

I'm about to log off after having caught up on all the days news. But first, I really, REALLY feel like venting -- not that it's going to do any good, but... what the heck.

OK. First and foremost -- the bailOUTRAGE! I was reading that Fannie/Freddie may Require Billions More in Assistance!!

Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, November 14, 2008; Page A01

The first of the Bush administration's major financial takeovers, the seizure of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, is poised to get more expensive and some analysts are warning that it may ultimately cost more than the government has suggested.

Mounting troubles in the financial and housing markets have further undermined the health of the companies in the months since the government seized them in September, making it likely the Treasury will be required to pump billions of dollars into the mortgage-finance giants.

Though not a cent has been spent, some analysts are warning the tab could exceed the $200 billion that the government set aside for capital infusions into the two companies. ( Link )

Then there's the auto industry. Obama's economic advisers are now convinced that if General Motors Corp. doesn't get a financial lifeline soon, it will have to file for bankruptcy by the end of January. And if the companies don't get almost $50 billion, Obama will be dealing with the issue again by next summer.

What's next?? The Airline industry?? Why the hell is this bailout/rescue plan -- which should now be called the bailOUTRAGE -- so freakin' disorganized??? Why can't the Bush Admin and Paulson get their act together and oversee what's going on with these billions and billions of dollars being given to Wall Street and the Big 3, but... WHERE IS THE HELP FOR THE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE A MONTH OR LESS AWAY FROM LOSING THEIR HOMES?

All things considered, there SHOULD BE a way for Obama to step in NOW -- you know, that "fierce urgency of NOW -- and help this morons ORGANIZE this disaster! I, for one (in a few million) simply cannot afford to lose what's left of what little I've managed to put away in my retirement account. As it is right now, I'm going to have to keep working until I'm 87. My whole goal right now is to be able to retire before I die!

Oh yeah... about Hillary; NO WAY!!

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By Derrek from Plainfield, NJ Nov 14th 2008 at 2:21 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:21 am EST)

Hillary is very interesting choice, I am unclear why she would be chosen.

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By Randy from Escondido, CA Nov 14th 2008 at 2:26 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:26 am EST)

First,

I think Hillary Clinton would make a fine choice as Sec of State. Don't forget she went to the wall for Barack to get him elected and because of her association with Bill knows the ins and outs of foreign governments very well. I am and have always been an ardent supporter of Obama and voted for him in the primary. He is trying do do right by us so stop second guessing what he is doing.

Now for my rant. The culture of greed and corruption has gotten out of control in America. These corporate CEO's of Banks who are not doing with the bailout money what was intended of it need to be exposed to the public and made a mockery of. There names should be posted on bill boards. There needs to be a price to be paid for screwing the public. The problem isn't the laws. The problem is no one (our leaders) is showing the spine to actually enforce the laws. And the people are so assimilated into a broken system they won't protest.

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By ShellySong♫ Live Life To The Fullest♫ Nov 14th 2008 at 2:34 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:34 am EST)

Randy,
Read up some and see my previous post. I'm ready to protest.

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By Bev for Pres Obama from Canada Nov 14th 2008 at 2:39 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:39 am EST)

If they are not doing with the money as was intended when it was given to them then they should have to pay it back.

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By Doreen D IOWA Nov 14th 2008 at 2:35 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:35 am EST)

Hey all, so whats up with Hillary being considered for Sec of State?

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By Lace; Yes We Did Nov 14th 2008 at 2:49 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:49 am EST)

Wisconsin, present for Obama!
(and Hillary too, if that's what it is!)

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By Murry Nov 14th 2008 at 2:51 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:51 am EST)

California in the house.
I was very surprised (along with Rachel Maddow) that HRC may be considered for Sec of State. I hope that Obama selects someone who agrees with him that we should talk to our enemies as well as our friends. I would like him to select someone with the same philosophy/outlook. Otherwise, foreign countries will think no one will care or listen to them.

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By Doreen D IOWA Nov 14th 2008 at 3:09 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 3:09 am EST)

I believe this Hillary business was just news to get Palin out of the picture!! I think Hagel or Kerry would be better for the job!! although I do feel Hill should have a major role, she did an awesome job for BARACK! maybe Sec of Health & Human Serv.

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By Livvy Nov 14th 2008 at 4:00 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 4:00 am EST)

Sydney, Australia..Do you think we might be sexist..we seem to come down harder on the females than the males.Or maybe we just need more in Government so we have a wider array to choose from

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By Anthony in N.C. Nov 14th 2008 at 7:28 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 7:28 am EST)

Good Morning from Greenville, N.C.

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By Livvy Nov 14th 2008 at 3:51 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 3:51 am EST)

I marvel at those kids working industriously together and with such pride they look at their masterpiece.. streetscape is so liberating and meaningful.. it reminds me of Aboriginal rock painting done thousands of years ago to communicate lifes lessons

Here's Why Palin Didn't Give A Press Conference | Report to Admin

By KenHussein supporting President Obama Nov 14th 2008 at 4:09 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 4:09 am EST)

(Video/1:35);

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Dr Elaine Kamarck | Report to Admin

By Livvy Nov 14th 2008 at 4:39 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 4:39 am EST)

She seems switched on..

She conducts research on 21st century government, the role of the Internet in political campaigns, homeland defense, intelligence reorganization, and governmental reform and innovation. Kamarck received her PhD in political science from the University of California, Berkeley. Kamarck is the author of "The End of Government As We Know It: Policy Implementation in the 21st Century" published by Lynne Rienner Publishing, Fall, 2006.

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Is there a place for her in BO's administration?

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By The Traveler Nov 14th 2008 at 7:17 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 7:17 am EST)

Of course there is. All she has to do is apply for it. But if she's not SQUEAKY CLEAN in every conceivable way, she need-not-apply.

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By Livvy Nov 14th 2008 at 4:54 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 4:54 am EST)

Long-suffering political footsoldiers who toiled tirelessly, at least since September, to put Obama in the White House recently learned they will be getting extra paychecks worth a month's salary, the Daily News has learned.
And boy, are they grateful.
"I think it's a very nice gesture for people who slaved away and sacrificed for the past year," said one pleased ex-staffer.
"It was totally unexpected, and you can't believe how helpful this is with the holidays coming," the lower-level worker said. "A lot of people thought they were going to be broke and would have to try to find a job in this rotten economy. It's a huge help."

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By WEBMASTER Nov 14th 2008 at 5:03 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 5:03 am EST)

WE CAN NOT AND SHALL NOT TURN BACK - THE FUTURE IS OURS NOW - TAKE HOLD OF IT.

Another considered proposition... | Report to Admin

By Livvy Nov 14th 2008 at 5:05 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 5:05 am EST)

Former Iowa Gov. Tom Vilsack, a late, but enthusiastic, supporter of Barack Obama, is highly regarded as a candidate for secretary of agriculture.

Vilsack, 57, who served two terms as governor from 1998 to 2006, reportedly has been shortlisted for the top job at the U.S. Department of Agriculture.

An Obama adviser, speaking on background Thursday, called reports Vilsack is a "near shoo-in" for the post premature. However, he said Vilsack is "well-liked" by those advising Obama on cabinet choices.

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By _Stacey_ Nov 14th 2008 at 5:53 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 5:53 am EST)

CNN) -- Nations are abdicating their responsibility by failing to provide enough military aid to the U.N. mission in the Democratic Republic of Congo as it struggles to stop brutal violence, the head of Oxfam International in the Congo said Thursday.

Camp dwellers are being treated for multiple health conditions, including cholera and malaria.

1 of 3 "There appears to be no urgency in the international community's talks on the crisis, but this is a deeply urgent situation. The world is failing in its responsibility to protect the Congo's innocent civilians," Juliette Prodhan said in a written statement.

"There has been an increase in incidents of forced labor, rape and widespread brutality," according to assessments carried out by the humanitarian group over the past week, Prodhan said. "Armed men from all sides prey upon those who have sought 'sanctuary' from the fighting in North Kivu (province)."

Fighting broke out in the province at the end of August between government forces and rebels led by Gen. Laurent Nkunda.

The fighting was spurred by lingering tensions over the 1994 slaughter of ethnic Tutsis by majority Hutus in neighboring Rwanda. Nkunda says his forces are trying to defend Congolese Tutsis from Hutu militants who escaped to Congo.

In the past week, Oxfam workers visited camps and communities in Kibati, just north of the city of Goma; Sake and Minova, south of Goma; and Kanyabayonga, north of Rutshuru, Prodhan said.

"Findings reveal that civilians continue to face widespread brutality after they have fled from the heart of the fighting."......

obama family please remember the women and children who are the most affected. replies to this post with your comment will be appreciated

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By Ankh81 Nov 14th 2008 at 6:07 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 6:07 am EST)

We, ouside of the USA, share that hope. This election is the best thing that happened since a long time. A chance to give strenght to a political will. Best wishes from France!

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By MOG-- Champaign, IL Nov 14th 2008 at 6:39 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 6:39 am EST)

Well . . it looks like the talk of HRC and the Sec of State position has hit a few nerves in Obama land. I love you guys. No worries President Elect Obama will do what is right for all of the United States.

I love you guys!

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By Czarina JB in Arizona Nov 14th 2008 at 8:37 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:37 am EST)

Thank you! He got us this far. Trust him!

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By The Truth Will Make You Free Nov 14th 2008 at 7:18 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 7:18 am EST)

Watching Bill Ayers on GMA and he's not letting Chris Como pin a relationship on him with BO that did not exist. He's really like my grandma said "time enough for him". Good for you Mr. Ayers.

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By NY Woman for Obama Nov 14th 2008 at 7:24 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 7:24 am EST)

this is MY Morning Joe...Joe BIDEN!

I actually saw Joe in the position of Secretary of State.... sigh.... I guess I can't have my Vice President Cake and my Secretary of State too!

QUICK BIO:

Education:
JD, Syracuse University College of Law, 1968
BA, History/Political Science, University of Delaware, 1965.

THINGS YOU MAY NOT KNOW:

- ADJUNCT PROFESSOR, Widener University School of Law, 1991 TO PRESENT

- Attorney, Private Practice, Wilmington, Delaware, 1968-1972.

****Chairman, Senate Foreign Relations Committee, 2006
****Vice Chairman, North Atlantic Treaty Organization Parliamentary Assembly.
****Foreign Relations, Chair
****Subcommittee on Crime and Drugs, Chair

MEMBER OF THE FOLLOWING
-Subcommittee on Antitrust, Competition Policy and Consumer Rights
- Judiciary
- Subcommittee on East Asian and Pacific Affairs
- Subcommittee on European Affairs
- Subcommittee on Human Rights and the Law
- Subcommittee on Immigration, Border Security and Refugees
- Subcommittee on International Development and Foreign Assistance, Economic Affairs and International Environmental Protection
- Subcommittee on International Operations and Organizations, Democracy and Human Rights
- Subcommittee on Near Eastern and South and Central Asian Affairs
- Subcommittee on Terrorism, Technology and Homeland Security
- Subcommittee on Western Hemisphere, Peace Corps and Narcotics Affairs
- Judiciary
- Subcommittee on East Asian and Pacific Affairs
- Subcommittee on European Affairs
- Subcommittee on Human Rights and the Law
- Subcommittee on Immigration, Border Security and Refugees
- Subcommittee on International Development and Foreign Assistance, Economic Affairs and International Environmental Protection
- Subcommittee on International Operations and Organizations, Democracy and Human Rights
- Subcommittee on Near Eastern and South and Central Asian Affairs
- Subcommittee on Terrorism, Technology and Homeland Security
- Subcommittee on Western Hemisphere, Peace Corps and Narcotics Affairs

He has the resume of TWO people not one - energetic and brilliant

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By SMraleigh Nov 14th 2008 at 8:35 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:35 am EST)

Yeah, but Can he dress a moose? Can he see Russia from his house? Can he whip people into a fury to form a lynch mob?

I mean, all that book learnin and stuff! College degrees and experience! Hasn't he been in leadership roles since you were in 2nd grade? What are you thinking?

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By Suzanne from CT Nov 14th 2008 at 1:47 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:47 pm EST)

Yeaah, finally someone is talking. Palin for Secretary of State!!!!!! ;)

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By pf from Youngstown, Ohio Nov 14th 2008 at 7:29 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 7:29 am EST)

I hated Hillary during the primaries......but later developed a soft spot for her as she genuinely worked hard to get Sen. Obama elected.......IMHO she is more suited for Supreme Court position than Sec Of State........But I'm sure BO team knows better & will make the appropriate choice.

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By Australian Helen Nov 14th 2008 at 7:41 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 7:41 am EST)

When is she due in court? I thought it was sometime this month. Or, maybe they were truly trumped up charges which have been dismissed.

Someone capable of doing a little sleuthing on the court question?

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By Brigitte Nov 14th 2008 at 7:47 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 7:47 am EST)

I also now feel positively about Hillary. I think she is a good choice. She is well
known and well liked around the world. She has worked hard for this campaign. You cannot argue with her intelligence and with her experience.

We also need to support the choices of Obama. He has not let us down so far.

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By Brigitte Nov 14th 2008 at 7:34 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 7:34 am EST)

I think Hillary is an excellent choice for Secretary of State. It is time for women to have some key posts in the Democratic government. Also after seeing someone so unqualified as Sarah Palin getting such a key position as a possible VP, it makes us all realize just how brilliant a woman Clinton really is. Even though at one point I did not support Clinton, I have changed my mind and feel that she is right for the job.

One thing people cannot deny about Hillary is that she is very smart, qualified, she knows her facts, and if she did an interview with Katie Couric she knows every answer to all the questions out there.

Palin could never match Clinton and I think it is a disgrace the Republicans are even thinking of making Palin a frontrunner for their party.

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By Nicky from Fort Lauderdale, FL Nov 14th 2008 at 8:20 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:20 am EST)

If she is chosen and she accepts, I think Hillary will be great as Secretary of State. She is a hard worker and will get things done. We had a long and tough primary but that is now OVER. Once it was over she campaigned her heart out for the Obama/Biden ticket. I can't believe so many people that have beem posting on the blog hold such grudges against her. It is quite dishearteneing to see such displays of people being sore winners. My god the primary is long over and we WON. It is so childish to hold on to bitter feelings from the past.

Next | Report to Admin

By RTV in St. Paul. This election is for JFK, MLK, and RFK. Bring it home. Nov 14th 2008 at 7:55 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 7:55 am EST)

Hillary, Smillary, Pillary...move on.

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By Theresa in Maine Nov 14th 2008 at 7:55 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 7:55 am EST)

Good morning,

It truly surprises me that there was such negative talk on the thread before this one that's still going on and on and on.

I'm so grateful that Obama and Biden were elected to run this country, that not for one second would I question who will be selected for any position.

Imagine yourselves as being a staunch republican who worked hard for McCain/Palin. How would you be feeling right now? The likes of idiots like Rush Limbaugh are further encouraging fear in these folks - rather then giving Obama a chance to even be sworn in. Imagine yourselves believing the false rumors and all the garbage that was fed to you by right-wing extremists?

Obama will be a GREAT president because he will govern us through this great time of need. The world is in a recession and may be heading toward a depression. Donations are down and some food pantries are empty. Tens of thousands have lost their homes and their jobs.

If we trusted enough to vote for Obama, then perhaps we might think about trusting whom he selects for every position.

I have a hard time with the people who think that their way is the best way to do things when they truly know ziltch about the subject.

Senator Clinton is brilliant and would be an excellent choice for any position she's placed in. Don't forget how much Bill Clinton is loved by the world.

The primaries have been over for a long time, folks and things are said in primaries. That's politics. Work on getting over it.

The talk here against Hillary sickens me. I have always been for Obama. So make no mistake about that.

I'd suggest we all realize our limitations. If Obama were to ask 100 of us who we wanted, we'd perhaps come up with 95 different answers. We voted for him so that he and he alone will make the best decisions for us.

Either we TRUST and have FAITH and HOPE in him and his decisions or we don't.

I consider myself lucky beyond belief to have Obama as my next president and Biden as my next vice president.

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By Nicky from Fort Lauderdale, FL Nov 14th 2008 at 8:29 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:29 am EST)

Well said!!

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By Theresa in Maine Nov 14th 2008 at 8:48 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:48 am EST)

Thanks, Nicky

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By ♥ dreamweaver "Grab A Mop" ♥ aka Vicki from Iowa Nov 14th 2008 at 11:08 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:08 am EST)

Theresa, I couldn't agree with you more. The last thread was pathetic. Old habits die hard I guess. I gave up on last night, hoping today would be a brighter day.

Hugs, Vicki

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By Tori from Greenville,SC Nov 14th 2008 at 9:10 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 9:10 am EST)

Theresa I just logged on and I suspected that people would be going crazy about Hillary's name being floated as Sec of State which is why I didn't even bother to log on last night when I first heard the story. It was the same way during the primaries when the media started "floating" her name for VP. I refuse to buy into any of these so called "leaks" since our campaign did not engage in leaking information during the primaries. I don't care what the pundits claim that "sources" told them. I will wait for an official announcement or statement from the campaign. The man hasn't even set foot in office yet and people are already displaying knee jerk reactions to speculation. For every person that disagrees with a decision that Obama makes there is another one that agrees with it. He has said too many times that we will not always agree but we can "disagree without being disagreeable." The man is brilliant,thoughtful, and pragmatic therefore I will have faith in his decisions and trust his judgment. America gave Bush eight years so I would think that they could give Obama at least a day to set foot in office.

Re: Still talking about Obama's Secretary of State choice? | Report to Admin

By Suzanne in Jupiter, FL Nov 14th 2008 at 9:15 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 9:15 am EST)

Theresa, I am with you. It is astounding how many "experts" we have on this blog. I for one will wait and trust Obama on whom he picks for his administration.

Re: Still talking about Obama's Secretary of State choice? | Report to Admin

By Theresa in Maine Nov 14th 2008 at 10:15 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:15 am EST)

Tory and Suzanne:

Thanks for your comments to my post. I attempted to word it in such a way as to enable people to understand that we elected Obama and that Obama will select the right person for the right position as he sees fit.

I truly get frustrated with the show of immaturity and drama at silly rumors probably conjured up by the MSM to get folks riled up.

In his own time, Obama will put into place the best darned Cabinet possible.

It saddens me in a way, because this little tantrum drama by his so-called supporters seems to be the way of so many in this world, doesn't it? This "I'm with you, but you'd better give me my way" attitude is akin to "my way or the highway.

My husband and I have decided after seeing the drama played out on MSNBC last night, that we'll look for enjoyable shows on TV. We don't need it.

Time to Roll Out the Cabinet ... | Report to Admin

By Dianne Nov 14th 2008 at 7:56 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 7:56 am EST)

It time to put the "Rumor Mill" and "Leaky Pipe" to rest!

Time to roll out the top Cabinet positions to stop the speculation. The MSM has nothing better to do than speculate and eventually it will cause dissension within Democrat circles.

Make decisions, name those Cabinet announcements, and stop the madness!

Re: Time to stop giving backseat driving orders | Report to Admin

By rich Nov 14th 2008 at 8:03 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:03 am EST)

Re: Time to stop giving backseat driving orders to the President-elect.

Barack Obama's Possible Cabinet:"A Team Of Rivals" | Report to Admin

By The EQualizer Nov 14th 2008 at 8:04 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:04 am EST)

Barack Obama's Possible Cabinet:"A Team Of Rivals"

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Anti-Christ charge | Report to Admin

By Aging Radical Nov 14th 2008 at 8:09 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:09 am EST)

Although I don't Watch Fox, I did see that they had a report on Fundamentalists who are claiming Obama is "the Anti-Christ". I do not understand how they can keep playing that card and being believed. I am 58 years old and in my lifetime I have heard the Christians call so many people the (must be only one) anti-Christ. Here is a partial list of them: Mao-tse-Tung, Pope John XXIII, Nakita Khreushchev, John Kennedy, Ho Chi Minh, Henry Kissinger, Ayatollah Khomeini, Bill Clinton, Saddam Hussein. It boggles my mind that people still believe this crap.

Re: Anti-Christ charge | Report to Admin

By Nicky from Fort Lauderdale, FL Nov 14th 2008 at 8:21 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:21 am EST)

They're a bunch of crazy wingnuts that should be ignored and not taken seriously.

Re: Anti-Christ charge | Report to Admin

By CHELSEA Nov 14th 2008 at 7:29 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 7:29 pm EST)

This is just awful!

Re: Anti-Christ charge | Report to Admin

By NY Woman for Obama Nov 14th 2008 at 8:37 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:37 am EST)

Is Cheney the Democrat's Anti-Christ? Is chocolate MY Anti-Christ?

It's a term as overused as the word "Love"

Let the Fundamentalists talk and talk.

In the wake of devestation the GOP incurred because they PANDERED to this minority base I'm sure they're thrilled to be safety pinned to this type of rhetoric for decades to come.

There are Fundamentalists and there are Fundamentalists.

True believers' lives are reflection of the Bible and are taught,

"Judge not lest YE be judged,"

"Ye who are without sin cast the first stone"

"In my Father's house are many mansions"

True followers of Christ can NOT be Finger-Pointers

Jesus never tells his disciples to seek out and label someone.

It's all about that four letter word.

L-O-V-E

Hillary Clinton -- Deal Breaker | Report to Admin

By Neva Nov 14th 2008 at 8:13 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:13 am EST)

If Obama appoints Hillary Clinton Secretary of State, it will be our first real signal that he is not the man we thought he was.

He promised change, integrity and transparency. Hillary Clinton is anathema to all three.

For me it would be a deal breaker; 'bye 'bye Obama in 2012.

Furthermore, foreign heads of state have explicitly said they want new faces; not those of people tied to old administrations -- and might I add, old scandalous administrations.

As short a time ago as her campaign, Hillary Clinton had the people of Kenya outraged (leaking, with sinister intentions, pictures of Obama in Kenyan tribal costume); the people of Ireland baffled and shaking their heads (falsely claiming to have brought peace to Ireland); the people of Bosnia aghast and amused, were it not so serious (lying about coming under sniper fire).

As first lady, she outraged Israelis when she kissed Suha Arafat after Suha had just given a speech falsely accusing Israelis of poisoning Palestinians with toxic gases and killing Palestinian children by lacing the water with chemicals.

Hillary Clinton qualified to be Secretary of State?

ABSOLUTELY NOT

Re: Hillary Clinton -- Deal Breaker | Report to Admin

By Aging Radical Nov 14th 2008 at 8:27 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:27 am EST)

It was a report. It has not been verified. Can't we stop the emotional, knee-jerk reactions and be logical. I don't know who should be in the cabinet, not one of them has sent me their resume'.

Re: Hillary Clinton -- Deal Breaker | Report to Admin

By Nicky from Fort Lauderdale, FL Nov 14th 2008 at 8:28 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:28 am EST)

I am sick of the self righteous, holier than though attitude being displayed on this board. Hillary and Barack had a tough primary which Barack won. It is over. This woman campaigned her heart out for the ticket once the primary was over. She is qualified and would do great in whatever capacity she serves. If Obama selecting Hillary for Secretary of State would make you no longer support the upcoming administration then honey you were never much of a strong supporter to begin with. If you don't agree with the choice fine but did you expect to agree with every choice made? If you don't agree with the choice, agree to disagree and move on to the next battle. I am just amazed with all the problems we face with an economy is collapse and being involved in two wars that this is what people choose to bitch about - Hillary possibly being Secretary of State. Sorry I find these rantings and threats childish.

Re: Hillary Clinton -- Deal Breaker | Report to Admin

By Theresa in Maine Nov 14th 2008 at 8:45 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:45 am EST)

Nicky: I fully agree with you. I am also sickened by the self righteous, holier than though attitude being displayed on this board.

I have a very difficult time with the attitude of people who know nothing about the qualities needed to be in a certain position, getting so darn dramatic and negative about a possible selection of the person they voted for.

If ya voted for Obama, folks, why doubt him now? I strongly feel that these shallow people will be the first to turn on him when the going gets tough.

We are in a terrible recession and it will take a great person like Obama to put in place the very best for any and all available positions.

Why not take out your energy by seeing to it the food pantry in your town has food to fee the hungry and the Salvation Army in your town has clothing to cloth the naked.

"Oh yee of little faith"

Re: Hillary Clinton -- Deal Breaker | Report to Admin

By Cheryl from Boston Feels the Gift Nov 14th 2008 at 8:47 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:47 am EST)

Not "Childish"!

Hillary must not become Sec of State! Her positions will not have changed with respect to her policies with Obama's overseas. That is a FACT. Her history has demonstrated that.

We have a right to make that opinion heard as loud as we can! We need and want another choice of which there are plenty better capable. Her background does not prove she has ANY governing experience overseas outside of having MET those folks as First Lady. Richardson is a better choice by far---and in line with Obama's sight. Kerry would be good. Personally I believe Powell would be the most ideal---but that I suspect would just be too much for the American people...

So please do not paint this group of volunteers who did their homework on just about everyone out there that they are childish for making their statements heard--it is now our government and we will be heard. In the end of course it is Obama's choice---but he said he wanted to hear from us and he will!

Good day!

Re: Hillary Clinton -- Deal Breaker | Report to Admin

By Cheryl from Boston Feels the Gift Nov 14th 2008 at 9:07 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 9:07 am EST)

In addition, I would like to say that instead of bashing the opinions in here by the hard working volunteers--many who have tirelessly committed themselves for months on end right up to the last day of GOTV and who did their homework throughout and gave their all to voicing their want in a new government--why don't you instead voice your own opinon should it be different and leave it at!

We don't need to bash each other and name call for having a different voice. Just give the reasons why you see it differently keeping up a discussion.

Besitos y Paz,
Cheryl in Boston

Re: Hillary Clinton -- Deal Breaker | Report to Admin

By CHELSEA Nov 15th 2008 at 1:09 am EST (Updated Nov 15th 2008 at 1:09 am EST)

Cheryl:
I am with you!

Re: Hillary Clinton -- Deal Breaker | Report to Admin

By CompassionateObama Supporter Nov 14th 2008 at 11:20 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:20 am EST)

I totally agree with you Nicky.

Re: Hillary Clinton -- Deal Breaker | Report to Admin

By Tori from Greenville,SC Nov 14th 2008 at 8:58 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:58 am EST)

Neva Barack Obama will put the best team together regardless of whether or not it's a "deal breaker" for you. He has said too many times that we may not agree with everything he does. He has also said that he has read "Team of rivals" several times and doesn't want "yes men" around him. He wants people with different perspectives that don't necessarily agree with him all of the time like Abraham Lincoln. I guess I was naive for thinking that the backseat driving would stop since we won the nomination.

Re: Hillary Clinton -- Deal Breaker | Report to Admin

By Cheryl from Boston Feels the Gift Nov 14th 2008 at 9:24 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 9:24 am EST)

Funny you call it backseat driving because one expresses their opinion. Good grief, frankly he does listen to us. Yours and my opinion. That being said so what is your problem if you say he doesn't want yes men around him then we too have an opinion that perhaps isn't a yes. After 11 months of dedicated campaigning I can assure you Obama has indeed listened to this group of volunteers and has made changes based on opinion in here!

Groups of ADVISERS will giving him differening opinions! Sec of State needs to be ON BOARD with the PRINCIPALS of effecting good leadership with difficult countries! Hillary has clearly demonstrated that she is not of that ilk. So what your saying that she is in line with Barack's view of the world? Not. So she changed overnight? Not--and if she did then who is she?
Please, I wonder why one would want Hillary as Sec of State so badly--as a prize? Hillary has as Senator the chance to MAKE changes and in time may just earn that most lofted senior position that my lion of a senator now holds. In time! and most powerful that would be.

Powell would be the best choice but alas perhaps too much for our country... Richardson would be excellent, Lugar would be great, Kerry could do the post better than Hillary--though I admit Kerry is not my first or second choice. Sec. of State can have a different view to express and not be a yes man-woman, but one should be in LINE with the President and Hillary demonstrated clearly she was OLD SCHOOL and Hawkish!

So I say why are the folks in here who disagree with the other folks so much about name calling such as backseat drivers, childish, etc. Please allow all of us to express our opinions and argue with each other based on perspectives without labeling each other.

Keep up the DISCUSSION! Express your views! People do acquiesce from good dialogue!

Besitos y Paz,
Cheryl in Boston

Re: Hillary Clinton -- Deal Breaker | Report to Admin

By Julie S from Media, PA Nov 14th 2008 at 9:37 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 9:37 am EST)

My two cents......

I agree about Obama needing to be bold about the "change" in Washington. I understand that you have to have some people in the transition with experience. (I was dismayed to hear about the lobbiests on the team as well)

Where is the NEW?

What about Samantha Powers ? Susan Rice ?

Re: Hillary Clinton -- Deal Breaker | Report to Admin

By Cheryl from Boston Feels the Gift Nov 14th 2008 at 9:53 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 9:53 am EST)

Susan Rice! Yes, she is most impressive. I hope she is somewhere in the top cabinet!

What lobbiests do you speak of?

Re: Hillary Clinton -- Deal Breaker | Report to Admin

By Tori from Greenville,SC Nov 14th 2008 at 10:40 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:40 am EST)

Cheryl I agree that everyone has a right to their opinion. You say Hillary is not qualified. In all honesty do you think the man that you helped elect President would be considering anybody that wasn't qualified? Does anybody think that Obama would pick HRC if he thought it would not be a good choice for reasons we may not understand? When I referenced he doesn't want "yes men" around him I was quoting him directly. He said that he doesn't want people around him that only agree with his positions which is why he chose Joe Biden. He sated that he wanted people that he could have a heated debate with to help solve problems. I do find it odd that supporters are coming here almost in a panic based on media speculation. The media admitted not being able to get much information from the Obama camp regarding the transition and it has them frustrated. Unless Andrea Mitchell's source is Barack Obama himself I will take everything they say about the cabinet appointments with a grain of salt. A supporter should not jump ship for not agreeing with one decision. If we all jump ship because we're dissatisfied with a decision he makes then he is going to have a rough Presidency which is ironic considering America gave Bush 8 long years in office.

Re: Hillary Clinton -- Deal Breaker | Report to Admin

By Cheryl from Boston Feels the Gift Nov 14th 2008 at 3:58 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 3:58 pm EST)

Hello Tory,

Not able to answer until now late in the day.

Not sure why you and others call it "jumping ship"?

Truly, I just don't get the anger to US here commenting about Who We Would "Like" to see. That is not Jumping Ship. And I for one am not getting all excited by what the media is hyping. It is out there and it frankly has always been a thought that he may offer Hill the position. You are correct that one may trust his judgement to do the correct thing and appoint one whom he believes does have the experience. Experience perhaps is not the corrrect term I for one should have used---Tone, on the same page, etc.

I still believe it is not panick nor jumping ship for any of us here to comment about who he picks for any post. We should comment. He he chooses one we are concerned about, perhaps we shall see that we were wrong. I am not married to MY ideas. I just don't want Hillary as Sec of State. Period. She is a HAWK and a misguided one at that.
Do you think she has changed her tune since her campaign? If she has then I worry still...! I don't like Hillary and have never failed to say otherwise. She is not to be trusted. If Barack chooses her well then we live with it. Yet I do hope he stays clear of having HIS presidency become Clintonian. I want for one would prefer to see an Obamaian presidency. As far as the great team of economists that many served in Clinton years, well they are the great minds that belong to the Democratic Party and he also has engaged newer ones and some as old as the Constitution Before Clinton years.

But please I have read perhaps not carefully anyway anyone proclaiming jumping ship. Certainly not me. Yet I dare say Barack can add our voices as well--as differing as they are.
So please everyone share your thoughts and cajole ous one way or another, but please do not I repeat again all day today tell us we are panicking or jumping ship or acting childish. The point is to have a discussion. Make one of your own to add to the conversation, not to chide us.

Frankly I don't believe he will pick her--it is a play...

Re: Hillary Clinton -- Deal Breaker | Report to Admin

By Kimberly Helen Hussein Nov 14th 2008 at 10:11 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:11 am EST)

Petty much?

For the benefit of certain bloggers who got BD written all over their driver's license | Report to Admin

By rich Nov 14th 2008 at 8:28 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:28 am EST)

For the benefit of certain bloggers who got BD written all over their driver's license
... it's been decided to do a sequel of the BDC:

Here's my gift (ie. suggestion) to you -- it's not too late for you to attend the alternate convention going on this week.

It's called the Backseat Driver's Convention. It sounds like you'd fit right in there:

The BDC is designed for those who would prefer to direct Obama's campaign (as if he and his handlers don't know how to).

Here's some material to read up on before you attend the BDC:

Link

Please ensure that you bring a photo, you'll need it to get in:

Link

Lastly, here's some of the scheduled activitites:

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And for social networking at the BDC:

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so many dreams become a reality | Report to Admin

By RJ show me state Nov 14th 2008 at 8:30 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:30 am EST)

with pres,obama in charge, america will become a light to the world again. and peace and trust that america stands for that bush distroyed. will be renewed.I keep you in my prayers daily Mr. president obama. let your wisdom and courage shine through out the world. as the hope of a new america begins.lets make sure the dream never dies. and we can forever say YES WE CAN... thank you MR.president obama. for taking this challange. upon yourself knowing how tough it is gonna be but may god bless you in all you do amen

START NOW....RIGHT NOW | Report to Admin

By On the way to Inaugurate My President Nov 14th 2008 at 8:37 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:37 am EST)

My name is Chi Reece and I live in Georgia. I am in the process of starting a volunteer matching organization called CHANGE STARTS HERE. I want to take advantage of the motivation and talent that we have within our supporters and begin to make change immediately within this community.

I want you to do the same.

My idea is that we make a list of local charities, organizations, etc. We find out what times they accept volunteers. Then we call our volunteers and start scheduling. We keep records.

Later I plan to add donation collection and distribution, a website with links to other charities, and other facets.

I do plan to register this as a 501c3 and all that goes along with it. I encourage you to take this idea and put it to work in your own community. This is how we will make change, and make it now.

The idea is to give what you can, when you can. Let the spirit of giving and kindness stay with you all day, even when you are not volunteering....it will be contagious, I promise.

This will be hard work but it's work I want to do.

I am so grateful for my President, what he represents, the inspiration he has given all of us, and proud of my country for electing him.

Good Morning News | Report to Admin

By NY Woman for Obama Nov 14th 2008 at 8:51 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:51 am EST)

Friday Morning Nov. 14th

NO ONE's KEEPING WATCH OVER $700 BILLION BAILOUT
The law requires Congress get a formal report by a certain deadline. The deadline has passed and, big surprise, there is no report.

Here's the quote The Post had from the Treasury Department's inspector general: "It is a mess. I don't think anyone understands right now how we're going to do proper oversight of this thing."

Both the White House and Congress were supposed to nominate people to these oversight positions and confirm them... because of that, Paulson, a former Wall Street banker, has his blank check and our money.
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SALES OF INAUGURAL TICKETS BANNED ON EBAY
EBay is banning the sale of tickets to the inauguration.

Each of the 240,000 tickets ARE FREE

Scalpers had them for sale as high as $40,000.
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BIDEN GETS A BIOGRAPHER

Jules Witcover inked a deal to write a biography of Vice president-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr., signing up with William Morrow's Ferris who also edited Barack Obama’s first book, “Dreams from My Father.”
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Obamas Grant First Interview
60 Minutes” has landed the first post-election interview of President-elect Barack Obama and his wife Michelle for this coming Sunday. The interview is expected to fill more than one segment on the broadcast. It may fill the entire hour.
MORE:
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THE WORLD OF ADVICE FOR OBAMA ON FOREIGN POLICY WASHINGTON
— The Russians want him to hold off on the installation of a missile defense shield in Poland.

The Europeans want him to renounce the idea of “regime change” when it comes to Iran, while the Israelis want to be sure he does not give Iran a pass when it comes to nuclear weapons.
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THE SENATE RACE: MINNESOTA
Rivals Gird for Recount in Bitter Minnesota Senate Race
The recount will seek to determine the intent of voters whose ballots were not counted when they were run through optical scanners, which record only filled-in circles. For example, a star or a ring around a candidate’s name clearly signals a preference but does not register on a machine.

Each campaign plans to station a lawyer and one or two trained observers at each of the 100 to 120 expected tallying stations across the state.

There is no limit to the number of ballots that can be challenged, MORE:
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US Automakers Bailout | Report to Admin

By wendynyc Nov 14th 2008 at 8:58 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 8:58 am EST)

Before we bailout the auto industry Barack O needs to put down serious conditions on the bailout package instead of giving a free hand similar to the one for the banking companies.

The US automakers need to retool, acknowledge that we have global warming and make fuel efficient cars.

Otherwise it would be better off to use the money to give start ups a chance to build new and efficient and smarter cars for the 21st century. Please write to Obama to think before he bailout these guys unconditionally.

Check out this great article by Thomas Friedman:

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Economy | Report to Admin

By Kathleen from Waterford, MI Nov 14th 2008 at 9:08 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 9:08 am EST)

My solution to the economic mess we are in is...
Do not give all that money to large corporations and the car companies.
Give the money to the taxpayers, so they in turn can buy cars, pay their mortgages, buy houses, support the local retailers, etc...
We need to pull ourselves out of this economic mess from the bottom up.

What is wrong with this blog? | Report to Admin

By Suzanne in Jupiter, FL Nov 14th 2008 at 9:10 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 9:10 am EST)

I have been visiting this blog for almost 2 years. Sometimes writing a comment, but mostly just reading and learning. What I always admired is when "evil" trolls visited, trying to spread lies and ugliness, I was always impressed with how quickly the "Obama community" and its IP staff would "rid" of us the trolls and the crap they were spreading.

My question: Why was the blog hijacked last night by a group of trolls, and they and their comments not removed?

I am not computer savvy but am shocked that they and their comments are still on this blog. I must tell you I don't know if I will return to this blog if these "ugly" people are allowed to stay. Does anyone out there more computer savvy than me, have any information on why these trolls are being allowed to stay (and their comments still on the previous page)?

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By Suzanne in Jupiter, FL Nov 14th 2008 at 9:31 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 9:31 am EST)

Does no one on this blog have any answers on why the ugly, ugly trolls and their comments are still on the thread from last night?

It is unbelieveable that these people and their comments are still on the thread. I don't think this blog will survive if these trolls are allowed to stay. Come on guys, a lot of you out there have a much better understanding of how this blogging stuff works.

Talk me down, why are these trolls and their comments still on the previous thread? Why were they allowed to hijack the site last night? I would really feel bad if I could not visit this site, but I will not come back if something is not done to "rid" these ugly, ugly people.

Re: What is wrong with this blog? | Report to Admin

By Renee - It's A New Day Nov 14th 2008 at 10:08 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:08 am EST)

Did you report them?

Re: What is wrong with this blog? | Report to Admin

By Suzanne in Jupiter, FL Nov 14th 2008 at 10:27 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:27 am EST)

Yes, many many many times. Their garbage is still on last nights thread. If you have the stomach go look, their ugly comments are still there.

I am very concerned about this being allowed on this site. I will not come back if their garbage is not out of here. It will destoy our community.

Re: What is wrong with this blog? | Report to Admin

By LorethaJ-FL Nov 14th 2008 at 10:29 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:29 am EST)

I reported JB-Orange Park, Fl multiple times. He was blocked but continued to come back. He is the nasty, infamous McCain blogger... Jon B. Stephens.

Re: What is wrong with this blog? | Report to Admin

By Suzanne in Jupiter, FL Nov 14th 2008 at 10:41 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:41 am EST)

How about the others?
There was one from CO and a "Julie from Ft. Lauderdale" They owned the site last night. I reported multiple times, and their garbage is STILL posted from the last thread.

Re: What is wrong with this blog? | Report to Admin

By ♥ dreamweaver "Grab A Mop" ♥ aka Vicki from Iowa Nov 14th 2008 at 11:26 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:26 am EST)

I reported them all too.

Hugs, Vicki

Re: What is wrong with this blog? | Report to Admin

By Suzanne from CT Nov 14th 2008 at 1:53 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 1:53 pm EST)

Most of them were actually the same person, with lots of different accounts.

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By ♥ dreamweaver "Grab A Mop" ♥ aka Vicki from Iowa Nov 14th 2008 at 2:06 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 2:06 pm EST)

That's exactly what I thought too.

Hugs, Vicki

Good Grief | Report to Admin

By Tiffany from NY Nov 14th 2008 at 9:18 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 9:18 am EST)

Have you heard about this South Carolina Roman Catholic priest telling any parishoners who voted for Obama, they can't receive communion?

I'm am Catholic and I voted for Obama and sorry Fr. Newman, but not this time.

Link

Re: Good Grief | Report to Admin

By rich Nov 14th 2008 at 9:22 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 9:22 am EST)

Easy solution -- take one tithes and start attending a Catholic Church that gives out communion irrespective of one's political views.

Empty pews have been known to tone down any priest's or minister's violations of separation of church and state.

Re: Good Grief | Report to Admin

By Cheryl from Boston Feels the Gift Nov 14th 2008 at 9:27 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 9:27 am EST)

The silly Cardinal in Boston had his say recently as well!

TAX them and they will shut up!

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By Connie_W in Arizona Nov 14th 2008 at 9:34 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 9:34 am EST)

Oh, good grief. I know a few Catholic priests who voted for Obama.

This is an example of a good reason why we must protect the separation of church and state.

Re: Good Grief | Report to Admin

By Julie S from Media, PA Nov 14th 2008 at 9:42 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 9:42 am EST)

I had my Obama/Biden button on my jacket when I recieved communion. I wondered if I would be denied but did not have a problem.

Re: Good Grief | Report to Admin

By Tiffany from NY Nov 14th 2008 at 9:55 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 9:55 am EST)

Oh that is precious. Too Funny.

I actually helped a priest fill out his absentee ballot for Obama.

Re: Good Grief | Report to Admin

By Tracy in CT Nov 14th 2008 at 10:06 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:06 am EST)

While driving home a few minutes ago I saw a terrific bumper sticker.

It said:

Pro-Life
Pro-Obama

Re: Good Grief | Report to Admin

By Theresa in Maine Nov 14th 2008 at 10:38 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:38 am EST)

Tiffany:

OMG is that eerie... You see, my ex son-in-law committed suicide two weeks ago. His name was Scott Newman and the parish my daughter attends is St. Mary's also.

So very sad that Scott didn't/couldn't get himself the help he needed for his addictions.

I had many conversations with a friend who is a priest. Years ago he received a diocesean letter telling requesting that he not vote for a woman who was gay in an upcoming election. He was very upset by that instuction and told me he never votes on one issue alone. This wonderful lady in the Maine is still in office and doing her job very well.

This is the thing I dispise about organized religions. My way or the highway. My way or you go to hell.

If 2,436 religions (made up number) believe this way, where is the LOVE? Where is the UNDERSTANDING? Where is the TOLLERANCE for differences? I cannot practice any religion now and feel a real loss. But I can't take this kind of crap any more.

This priest just doesn't get the greatest commandement given by God, does he? Doesn't it go something like: "Love your neighbor as yourself?"

I have said it before and I'll say it again. I am pro-life, but I would not make any decisions for another human being.

There is one thing that I don't get at all. If the right wing-nuts are so pro-life why haven't they taken to the streets to protest the killing that happens in war?

Why aren't they taking care of people AFTER they are born. There's so much to be done.

G'Morning! | Report to Admin

By ♍ ♈Marion4BO♈ ♍ Nov 14th 2008 at 9:23 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 9:23 am EST)

I'm just peeking in to catch up on the blog. It's been awhile since I have been here and I see we are still going strong.

Love it!!

Have a bless day all

Economy | Report to Admin

By Kathleen from Waterford, MI Nov 14th 2008 at 9:23 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 9:23 am EST)

My solution to the economic mess we are in is...
Do not give all that money to large corporations and the car companies.
Give the money to the taxpayers, so they in turn can buy cars, pay their mortgages, buy houses, support the local retailers, etc...
We need to pull ourselves out of this economic mess from the bottom up.

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By "CZARINA" MARILYN from CRYSTAL BEACH, FLORIDA aka GODDESS OF SMILES and LAUGHTER Nov 14th 2008 at 10:21 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:21 am EST)

YES WE CAN TO PRESIDENT-ELECT BARACK OBAMA, NO WE CAN'T TO SECRETARY PAULSON....................... ...........For 8 years while we may not have believed what we were being fed and our intake of antiacids was equal to the National Debt, we were stuck with what we had. In 68 days these greedy, non caring thieves will be gone. We have to call, e-mail and write our senators and congressmen NOW to stop Paulson and his cronies from getting more money and to DEMAND someone look over what has taken place up until now. 6 weeks ago we were told if the money ($750 billion aka $810 billion) was not immediately given the world would end, the sky would fall, the country would cease to exist. It took 2 weeks before they actually got the ok to get the money and guess what, the world,, the sky and the country were still pretty much still there. And even now, alomost 2 months later look around, there's a world, a sky and a USA. Now mid way through their panic alert they want us to believe there is a better direction for the money. I said it six weeks ago and I will say it agin. A bailout is for people in jail and prison so lets put the money with the definition, put these criminals behind bars and when they ask for a bailout at least for once, they will be speaking the truth. Isn't it bad enough that most of us will have no Xmas this year, fight to save our homes and jobs and hope no one in our family gets sick? We found our way when we elected Barack Obama our next president, let's stay on that same path. Please contact your state Reps, Congressmen and Senators and put a halt to this outpouring of money. Ask them to get a better explanation on the situation and report back to their states & districts. Those who created the mess will just have to suffer. Middle class America is tired of carrying the load! What is the transition team for President-Elect Barack Obama doing about this? Marilyn from Welaka, Florida

Listen and Learn | Report to Admin

By Carey from Kentucky Nov 14th 2008 at 9:30 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 9:30 am EST)

We've been through the primaries and the GE, I see some of you still have little faith. Barack didn't get to where he is by not listening to all sides and then make a judgement based upon all the facts.

Grown folks who have lost hope in less than ten days. WOW!!

Don't forget he's transitioning not only himself but family and still dealing with the death of beloved "Toots" which he hasn't had time to deal with. Imagine having all of this on your shoulders? You can't because its not happening to you but at least remember how he persevered.

Remember what Barack said about being hoodwinked and bamboozled? That's what is happening. The media doesn't have much to run on right now and they are grasping at straws. Instead of letting them take over your thoughts, how about you go volunteer at your child's or relatives school, homeless shelter or nursing home? Dig through your closet and find all those clothes you can't wear and find a Goodwill to give them to? Go volunteer for Habitat for Humanity.

Focus on how YOU can help your community. Let the pundits do their spinning but remember: "I'm asking you to believe. Not just in my ability to bring about real change in Washington.........I am asking you to believe in yours" - Barack Obama

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By Connie_W in Arizona Nov 14th 2008 at 9:37 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 9:37 am EST)

I'm with you on this.

I elected Barack Obama and will support his decisions.

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By JS Nov 14th 2008 at 10:04 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:04 am EST)

Very interesting comments today.

I must say I agree most with those that say let the President-elect make his own decisions and we should support whatever personnel choices he makes.

I find it interesting though that people who thought he was too inexperienced and has shady (terrorist) association, are suddenly amenable to working for him.

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By Tracy in CT Nov 14th 2008 at 10:05 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:05 am EST)

We can always count on our Carey to be the voice of reason!

; )

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By Carey from Kentucky Nov 14th 2008 at 10:30 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:30 am EST)

I try. I know its hard but 21 months of battle and I am not going to turn cynical. Not this time!! Not ever again!!

I choose hope over fear and the world is looking for America's beckon to shine bright and give those who are still in the dark, "light".

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By Renee - It's A New Day Nov 14th 2008 at 10:10 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:10 am EST)

I agree. We must trust this candidate and support him. This hatred of HRC must stop. Move on. Obama and his team will pick the best people for the jobs and he'll have my continued support and prayers.

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By Kimberly Helen Hussein Nov 14th 2008 at 10:34 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:34 am EST)

I agree- people need to stop hating.

Still Very Hopeful | Report to Admin

By Lisa from Marblehead, MA Nov 14th 2008 at 9:40 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 9:40 am EST)

We have so many issues to face in this country, but I have faith that President-Elect Obama will make well thought through decisions.

I keep going back to this page that has the 700 newspaper images of the election win.

Link

It's beautiful and hopeful like the USA!

Hillary and change | Report to Admin

By joe from Cotati Nov 14th 2008 at 9:50 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 9:50 am EST)

To me the only real change that matters is attitude. The perfect right or the perfect left have strangled this country. Neither are right as ideology, is always only a small window from which to view life. If we are all in this together, it makes sense to understand the basis of another's point of view. Hillary is an unknown. Whether she is potentially SoS of not. She showed all of us negaters that she has more depth tnan we earlier believed. She ran as the 1st serious woman candidate and had to appear more macho than the men, to avoid appearing weak. What does she feel or see about international policies ? None us really know.
Anyone here ever put there heart and soul into a dream and failed ? Ever have to turn around and promote the destroyer of your dream with conviction, one month later ? This is rare quality she displayed, it bodes well as SoS. We are all outsiders to any of these people Barack may choose, we know them not. Let it unfold with the patience Barack has demonstrated to us.

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By Keira Nov 14th 2008 at 10:11 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:11 am EST)

Sure Hillary would be a great secretary of state but how is the Obama administration going to separate Bill's shaddy business dealings with foreign governments/characters with state business. This could be messy.

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By Nate from Land O Lakes, FL Nov 14th 2008 at 10:15 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:15 am EST)

Most, if not all of us bloggers on here voted for Obama. We did because we believed in his judgement and wisdom. I do not have a problem with a possible selection of Hillary Clinton to Sec. of State. Obama may assemble a cabinet of individuals that may not be "new" or symbolize "change". However, that does not mean that change will not come. Obama is smart. He is going to put the best people in positions to get his vision of change made into a reality. Obama sees the forest from the trees and so should we. He knows what he is doing. The vehicle for change may not look any different than the same old, same old from the outside, but you have to remember, the driver of the vehicle is the most important thing. Barack is that driver and he will direct whomever he appoints, at any position, in the same direction that he envisions for this country. Trust him.

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By Kimberly Helen Hussein Nov 14th 2008 at 10:28 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:28 am EST)

Well said!

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By Theresa in Maine Nov 14th 2008 at 10:52 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:52 am EST)

Nate: Yes, very very well said. Thanks

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By ♥ dreamweaver "Grab A Mop" ♥ aka Vicki from Iowa Nov 14th 2008 at 11:37 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 11:37 am EST)

Thanks for the positive attitude today.

Hugs, Vicki

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By Carmen From New York City, NY Nov 14th 2008 at 12:27 pm EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 12:27 pm EST)

Exactly. I love the great positive attitude. Obama knows what he is doing. Until I hear it from his lips, everything else is speculation.

Obama and Mccain on Monday | Report to Admin

By Cynthia, TX Nov 14th 2008 at 9:55 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 9:55 am EST)

It is reported the Obama transition team will meet with Mccain on Monday.

I wonder if Mccain will help with immigration reform something that is so needed in this country.

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By Australian Helen Nov 14th 2008 at 10:07 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:07 am EST)

And met with Hilary today.

This does not mean that she will be SOS... or maybe anything else, but in indicates discussions did take place. I still think she is headed for Health if her baggage will allow it.

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By Cynthia, TX Nov 14th 2008 at 10:09 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 10:09 am EST)

I am with you Helen on the Health care front. I think she would serve well in that role.

Where is my Obama Community? | Report to Admin

By Suzanne in Jupiter, FL Nov 14th 2008 at 9:59 am EST (Updated Nov 14th 2008 at 9:59 am EST)

Where is the Obama community that I use to see on this site for almost 2 years? The family I could count on for answers and good information?

I asked a question about the ugly trolls and their terrible comments that are still posted on the last thread, and no one has answered by question about why their comments are still posted. In the past I could count on some one in my Obama family answering my questions.

Where is the Obama family and community I could rely on? Where is Meri, where is lace, where is everyone....

Why are the trolls from last night and their comments on last thread? Does no one care that they hijacked the thread last night?

What has happened to this blog? I feel like I am invisible here, like the community is disappearing.

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