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By donna from lakewood Nov 20th 2008 at 1:33 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 1:33 pm EST)

that is my town and i was there.

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By marytnurse, supporting Barack Obama until I see his library built on donations from We The People Nov 20th 2008 at 1:35 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 1:35 pm EST)

that SO sounds like nirvana!!

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By MR TODD C. TOURE Nov 20th 2008 at 1:37 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 1:37 pm EST)

You know that's right!
hello Cleveland, i'mhailing from New York, what a ride we've been on, huh?-the Work Starts Now!

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By !Rhonda => As A Man/Woman Thinks in His/Her Heart, So Is He/She...We ARE Creative & Innovative... Jobs, Jobs, Jobs!! Nov 20th 2008 at 1:44 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 1:44 pm EST)

Congrats Donna!!!

Anyone care to make a 5 dollar donation to my Transistion Donation Page Link

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By Soma Nov 20th 2008 at 2:39 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 2:39 pm EST)

This is really beautiful.
On the other hand, McCain is being sued by Jackson Brown for illegally using his music at his rallies.
Gotta laugh!

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By Nacola Nov 20th 2008 at 4:15 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:15 pm EST)

i remember seeing that live on CNN. I can't stop crying. Barack needs us, needs us to be patient, needs us to work with him. He works for us and only us. We have to stop fighting on this blog, we have to stay calm and clear headed. We can't lose all the love we put out into the world. We are at the crossroads, we are at the crossroads.

Let stay together.

TODAY | Report to Admin

By Stephen C. Rose in NYC Nov 20th 2008 at 4:58 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:58 pm EST)

T H U R S D A Y

Al Giordano Says He Won't Link Here or Read My Posts
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UPDATES: Tapping in to the anger of women regarding Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin + Detroit Bailout on Ice ... for now.

YESTERDAY

Plouffe Heads The DNC -- That's Best Way Forward
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By Stephen C. Rose in NYC Nov 20th 2008 at 5:04 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:04 pm EST)

My dad was born in Lakewood. He'd be 104 now. It is good to listen to Bruce to drive out the sad cries of people who think Barack is not measuring up to their specifications. They do not understand that 50 pound weight.

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By OBAMAMAMMA Nov 20th 2008 at 1:33 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 1:33 pm EST)

Brian Schweitzer my Govenor is being considered for Secretary of Energy. Very exciting, but I'm not sure if I really want him to leave Montana :0(

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By !Rhonda => As A Man/Woman Thinks in His/Her Heart, So Is He/She...We ARE Creative & Innovative... Jobs, Jobs, Jobs!! Nov 20th 2008 at 1:40 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 1:40 pm EST)

WoW!!!

He's great!!!!

He was awesome at the DNC Convention!!!!!

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By Sandra in PA, blogging here since day one and volunteering for BO since he announced his candidacy Feb. 10, '07 Nov 20th 2008 at 1:42 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 1:42 pm EST)

Love him!!! Extra thud points for his performance at the convention; and he was a great upporter of O; such a good man! You guys are lucky to have him...for now! ;)

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By Sandra in PA, blogging here since day one and volunteering for BO since he announced his candidacy Feb. 10, '07 Nov 20th 2008 at 1:45 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 1:45 pm EST)

And Andrea M just said on MSNBC that Gov. Sebelius is being considered for Labor! Here comes the "change!" All of the women governors, Napolitano, Sebelius, Granholm...and of course Claire, were such dedicated, strong, clear speaking supporters during our toughest times...strong, capable, intelligent, talented, fantastic women, all!

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By Kimberly Helen Hussein Nov 20th 2008 at 2:03 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 2:03 pm EST)

This is exciting!

Jan 20th can't get here soon enough!

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By Soma Nov 20th 2008 at 2:52 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 2:52 pm EST)

it gets better and better.
Sibelius is so impressive.

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By Soma Nov 20th 2008 at 2:55 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 2:55 pm EST)

i want Claire McCaskill in a prominent role too. She is awesome.

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By Nacola Nov 20th 2008 at 4:22 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:22 pm EST)

We have to be patient, we have to wait and see. All the strong woman (just like you said). President Obama is the man!!!

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By Catherine of Riverdale, IL Nov 20th 2008 at 7:28 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 7:28 pm EST)

Yay! I really like Sebelius! I would liked to have seen her as Veep

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By MR TODD C. TOURE Nov 20th 2008 at 1:44 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 1:44 pm EST)

Hey, if he's the Right Fit, let it go down!
Barack, will Definetly need plenty of Quality Staffing to implement what this Country is thirsty forRelevance, Recommittance to excellence, Redemption, because Bush FRIED THIS COUNTRY!Imagine coming home to a Montecito Mansion in California, to charred out, devastated and devoid of life.Well that is where the Economy is!Showtime, that's what it is -period-NO MORE LIES AND DECEIT-AMERICANS DESERVE BETTER

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By MR TODD C. TOURE Nov 20th 2008 at 1:45 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 1:45 pm EST)

Hey, if he's the Right Fit, let it go down!
Barack, will Definetly need plenty of Quality Staffing to implement what this Country is thirsty forRelevance, Recommittance to excellence, Redemption, because Bush FRIED THIS COUNTRY!Imagine coming home to a Montecito Mansion in California, to charred out, devastated and devoid of life.Well that is where the Economy is!Showtime, that's what it is -period-NO MORE LIES AND DECEIT-AMERICANS DESERVE BETTER

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By meta Nov 20th 2008 at 1:54 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 1:54 pm EST)

I like Schweitzer! I love that he speaks Arabic and has done agricultural projects in South America, Africa, Asia and Europe. And I love that he gave Michelle his bolo tie at the July 4th picnic. He's sweet.

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By Marbwi Nov 20th 2008 at 2:13 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 2:13 pm EST)

8/27/07--interview with Gov. Brian Schweitzer(D) on Charlie Rose
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Mr. Schweitzer, a farmer and rancher, is credited with energizing Democrats in the state and raised his national profile in August with a speech at the Democratic National Convention that drew prolonged cheers.

I like Gov. Brian Schweitzer--only problem, he was just re-elected.
Montana also brought Barack Obama within 2.5% spread during the election.

I want our elected Democrats to stay put(both local and federal)--especially those that were either recently elected or with numerous years left at their post.

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By OBAMAMAMMA Nov 20th 2008 at 2:30 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 2:30 pm EST)

Yes he is great, and when it comes to Energy...he knows his stuff. He has done so much for Montana recently, and that is why it would be hard to see him go. He works across party lines, and his Lt. Gov is a Republican. And Montana is a leader in alternative fuels. And for exploring new ideas. We have wind, solar, oil, and coal going for us. Which I am really supportive (even oil and coal) if its done with reguards to the environment and land management. Anything that keeps the middle east out of Washington's back pocket is forward thinking.

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By Mick >>"You may say I am dreamer, but I am not the only one!" Nov 20th 2008 at 6:34 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 6:34 pm EST)

Ooooh now I see who you guys are talking about. It's Montana Man. I like him too very much. He seems to me very natural and not precalculated.

Great guy - no doubts.

Mick
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By Stanley H. Krute Nov 20th 2008 at 2:45 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 2:45 pm EST)

Very nice indeed.

Barack's transition only deepens my joy at his election.

Folks who are nervous/concerned/upset over misc. transition shmootz: better you should make some phone calls to Georgia for Jim Martin. In the real world, getting to 60 Dems will be mucho important for implementing the Changes we need ASAP.

We are so blessed. Be sure to count them daily, folks.

-- stan

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By Patriot2008 Nov 20th 2008 at 4:29 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:29 pm EST)

A Prayer For Me: Lord, teach me forgiveness toward Republicans as they rudely hang up on me when I pleasantly call their homes in my home State of Georgia.

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By Soma Nov 20th 2008 at 2:51 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 2:51 pm EST)

I like him. He has fresh ideas and is forward thinking.

Governor Sebelius!! | Report to Admin

By Trueblue Nov 20th 2008 at 3:05 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 3:05 pm EST)

A personal favorite-yay for her and for all the ladies/women.

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By Stephen C. Rose in NYC Nov 20th 2008 at 5:10 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:10 pm EST)

Brian knows the drill. Thre super videos on my original S for Veep page:

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Thank You Mr. President!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | Report to Admin

By !Rhonda => As A Man/Woman Thinks in His/Her Heart, So Is He/She...We ARE Creative & Innovative... Jobs, Jobs, Jobs!! Nov 20th 2008 at 1:38 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 1:38 pm EST)

Thank You President Barack Obama for your Awesome wisdom an discernment in Choosing your OWN Cabinet and Team.

Thank You Sir For Choosing your own S.O.S (Whomever She or he May Be).

May the Good Lord Bless You and Your Entire Team Real Good.

Amen.

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By Nacola Nov 20th 2008 at 4:24 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:24 pm EST)

Amen Rhonda, Amen. Now can we all stay calm. We are so spoiled at times.

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By Mick >>"You may say I am dreamer, but I am not the only one!" Nov 20th 2008 at 7:32 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 7:32 pm EST)

LOL

"She or he"

I dont care if is "She or he" as long is not Hillary. Sometime I am confused too :)

Mick
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Obama's Treasure Secretary | Report to Admin

By Ron praying for President Barack Obama's success. Nov 20th 2008 at 1:50 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 1:50 pm EST)

I hope Obama names his Treasury Secretary very and has only one criteria for doing it. He needs to select the person most able to get us out of the current financial crisis and get the economy moving again. I hope that if he thinks Larry Summers is that person that he will not be disuaded from picking him because of his unfortuate comment about women when he was president of Harvard. I assume that he regrets that and we should give him the opportunity of geting us out of this hole if Obama thinks that he is the best person to do it. We need the brightest and the best in every postion now.

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By Kimberly Helen Hussein Nov 20th 2008 at 2:06 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 2:06 pm EST)

I'm a feminist and I actually like Larry Summers.

He's a very smart guy. Knows a great deal on economics.

I don't like how the special interest groups and liberal blogosphere types are trying to undermine Barack's cabinet choices.

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By Soma Nov 20th 2008 at 2:54 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 2:54 pm EST)

Larry Summers may be the best candidate to dig us out of this hole. That is the first priority. We don't have to personally love the guy.

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By Mick >>"You may say I am dreamer, but I am not the only one!" Nov 20th 2008 at 7:22 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 7:22 pm EST)

Ohh shut up

You are not feminist. Tehy dont talk like that.
They bark. LOL

Mick
Link

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By Marbwi Nov 20th 2008 at 2:16 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 2:16 pm EST)

Larry Summers is smart. He would be an asset to the administration. I say that he visit women's group--explain and apologize so that the issue is put to rest.

Kathleen Parker: Fundies Are Killing The GOP | Report to Admin

By !Rhonda => As A Man/Woman Thinks in His/Her Heart, So Is He/She...We ARE Creative & Innovative... Jobs, Jobs, Jobs!! Nov 20th 2008 at 1:51 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 1:51 pm EST)

What Parker is doing here, as she clearly states, is just airing out what the Republican establishment has always thought -- that the religious right are a bunch of useful rubes (Lee Atwater's "extra-chromosome conservatives").
Please DiggLink

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By ★Hold Firmly Without Wavering,To The Hope That We Confess★- bonnie4Obama of MD Nov 20th 2008 at 4:46 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:46 pm EST)

Hi Rhonda,

I hope the Repubs keep letting the fundies have their way. Keeps them out of our hair(Dems) for the next 8yrs at least!! :-)

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By !Rhonda => As A Man/Woman Thinks in His/Her Heart, So Is He/She...We ARE Creative & Innovative... Jobs, Jobs, Jobs!! Nov 20th 2008 at 10:15 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 10:15 pm EST)

Hi Bonnie,

I agree with you 100%.

Make it 100 Years Okay(LOL).

BLESSED ARE THE PEACEMAKERS | Report to Admin

By Marbwi Nov 20th 2008 at 1:52 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 1:52 pm EST)

My suggestions: I know that some are not pleased with the Clinton name being mentioned as part of the cabinet. How about this. Instead of venting against them, why not use this blogsite to send special requests to them. Write a Dear H or B Clinton mini request letter(keep it clean). Tell the Clintons what you want them to do. What kind of 'changes' you want them to embrace.

Part of this blog and democracy(civic duty) is for different viewpoints to be expressed. Since the Clintons will never disappear(wish of a few supporters), why not use this chance to help them adjust to a different type/style of politics. Remember, Bill Clinton was one of the youngest pol elected in Arkansas. Practically WJC's entire career has been in public service. He is use to a certain style of politics. He has been around a certain group for decades. HRC has adopted some of those tactics. Since I am a die-hard Democrat, I want the healing to begin. We have a huge Bush-mess to clean up.

Type a Dear Hill/Bill letter. Give them constructive advice.

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By Michelle Nov 20th 2008 at 2:41 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 2:41 pm EST)

As a supporter of Hillary, what a great suggestion!

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By Soma Nov 20th 2008 at 2:57 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 2:57 pm EST)

I want Hillary to be part of the administration and contribute her significant talent. It's her drama I don't like. Also, her staff seems really manipulative with all the leaks. Could she convert to a straight shooter and keep a handle on her staff? If so, I think she will be great substantively for the position.

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By Nacola Nov 20th 2008 at 4:26 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:26 pm EST)

What a good idea, can you provide a link so we can send an email to them?

Nice Vid | Report to Admin

By Eric from Oklahoma City, OK Nov 20th 2008 at 1:53 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 1:53 pm EST)

Check out the following blog for everything Obama.

Link

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By Sariti Nov 20th 2008 at 3:17 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 3:17 pm EST)

Every media station and pundit is weighing in on this decision. They say it is "restorative." It is a "gesture" from the Obama camp "healing" campaign wounds. "Everybody" agrees she should be chosen. I say if Obama wants to mend scars he should send her flowers.

Appointing Senator Clinton is a bad idea. If the President-elect is truly for change he needs someone who supports that and so far Clinton has held true to business as usual.

This is not a discussion about Clinton's experience. She has plenty. It is about the differences between these two individuals, the differences between their stated foreign policy and Obama's promise for change.

Clinton is a member of the establishment. She has transformed herself into one of the best politicians in recent memory. The result was a very formidable bid for the Presidency, but let's face it: she did not win. America elected Obama and change.

The repeated debates between these two candidates clearly showed one area where she and Obama differed tremendously. That area is foreign policy.

She supported the Iraq war, he is against it. Clinton was unapologetic about voting for the war despite pleas from her own constituency to admit it was a mistake. Alternatively, she took a hard stance and further disagreed with Obama's idea of withdrawal.

Under no circumstances does Clinton want to speak with Iran. Obama, on the other hand, stated that he felt speaking to Iran was a requirement for getting them past their nuclear weapons ambitions. Her policy ironically is to use ours on them if they did not submit to US demands.

Further, Clinton has said nothing of changing policy toward Afghanistan and Pakistan, two issues that were central to Obama's foreign policy platform. Nor has she commented on how to move beyond either war toward a more sustainable peace.

She has shown through her own statements that she is definitely more hawkish than he is. I wonder if she can stand down when he says so.

Appointing Clinton Secretary of State is not what the US needs especially when it is trying to repair its relationships in the world, end two wars and get the Middle East peace process back on track.

With Clinton America will be back to implementing the same international policies we see today. A policy that is pentagon heavy and diplomatically light. A policy that is internally fractured and divisive

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By Mick >>"You may say I am dreamer, but I am not the only one!" Nov 20th 2008 at 6:57 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 6:57 pm EST)

I respect your feelings to her but please stop presenting her like him.

Hillary is not Bill.

Bill is Giant, a Thumper of American polithic she is nothing without him. Compare her speaches to his speaches. His speaches are substantial, every word make sense to everybody. Her speaches are crap ful of paraphrasing whatever might pick up, just as Sarah Palin;

Joe the Plumber - Blue collar workers
Real Americans - Hard working "white" people.
Maverick's - Suburban white woman

etc etc etc

All bunch of BS

Totally divisive and all in function:

Say anything to get elected.

Hillary is past and represents greed. our Philosophy is CHANGE of past.

Mick
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By Lucy Hussein Nov 20th 2008 at 11:42 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 11:42 pm EST)

Agreed, sarin.

No one is saying Hillary is Bill. Sarin's points are about Hillary's stances--not about any of Bill's opinions. After all, she has been the more relevant politician for the last 4 years. We're talking about her significantly different philosophy of foreign policy that she made pretty clear during her presidential run as well as her career in the Senate.

Unless the latest 'news' that supposedly comes straight from an Obama aide are just rumors, it looks like he's appointing her. And while I can imagine his reasons, I wonder why she is not being considered for something else. The SoS needs to share the president's basic stance on foreign policy. He/she needs to be trusted to be able to negotiate and build relationships on behalf of the president--not just for themselves. I'm not dissing Hillary's views; I'm just saying that she has not shown that she can gel with Obama's ideas whatsoever, and even if she acquiesced, you don't want someone in that role who is just doing duty and doesn't have clear drive that is going to work for the president's agenda.

There are so many other people who would be better qualified for this position, too. I have to say that I'm disappointed, but trust that Obama and his team have weighed all the cons.

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By CHELSEA Nov 20th 2008 at 11:53 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 11:53 pm EST)

Sarin,
We're on the same page.
Chelsea

news coming | Report to Admin

By meta Nov 20th 2008 at 1:57 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 1:57 pm EST)

Senators have struck a compromise on an automaker bailout. Details to be released at 2:30 EST. So says Levin, Stabenow and Voinovich, Bond

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By Kimberly Helen Hussein Nov 20th 2008 at 2:03 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 2:03 pm EST)

This gives me hope.

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By Donna No Shock Barack No Drama Obama of MD Nov 20th 2008 at 2:08 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 2:08 pm EST)

Wow now that's a suprise. Can't wait to here what they decided.

Senators Reach Compromise on Automaker Bailout | Report to Admin

By Kimberly Helen Hussein Nov 20th 2008 at 2:02 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 2:02 pm EST)

Democratic Sens. Levin and Stabenow and GOP Sens. Voinovich and Bond say they've struck a deal on a bill to aid the crippled auto industry.

Details to be released at 2:30 pm ET press conference.

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By meta Nov 20th 2008 at 2:09 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 2:09 pm EST)

We are on the same trail!

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By Marbwi Nov 20th 2008 at 2:19 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 2:19 pm EST)

News conference on tv now

Re: Senators Reach Compromise on Automaker Bailout | Report to Admin

By Patriot2008 Nov 20th 2008 at 2:46 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 2:46 pm EST)

Well, I hope part of that deal is to relinquish the Lear jet that they flew into DC with on yesterday, and flying commercial with the rest of the populace.

Recount Finding Older Machines Missed Franken Votes | Report to Admin

By !Rhonda => As A Man/Woman Thinks in His/Her Heart, So Is He/She...We ARE Creative & Innovative... Jobs, Jobs, Jobs!! Nov 20th 2008 at 2:03 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 2:03 pm EST)

Franken picked up 28 votes overall as the county made it through about half its precincts Wednesday. Most of his gains came in Eveleth and Ely. Gains were attributed to older-model Eagle machines in those towns. Instead of filling in a circle, voters are supposed draw a bold line to candidate of their choice. Some draw a thin line not scanned.

Please DIGG Link

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By Patriot2008 Nov 20th 2008 at 4:32 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:32 pm EST)

This is good news. I hope that he will pick up many more votes.

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By !Rhonda => As A Man/Woman Thinks in His/Her Heart, So Is He/She...We ARE Creative & Innovative... Jobs, Jobs, Jobs!! Nov 20th 2008 at 10:18 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 10:18 pm EST)

I hope Franken finds at least 400 more votes in those counties.

Yes We did Jewelry | Report to Admin

By Riv Nov 20th 2008 at 2:13 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 2:13 pm EST)

I've made some new jewelry designs to reflect our awesome accomplishment and new era of HOPE !

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By !Rhonda => As A Man/Woman Thinks in His/Her Heart, So Is He/She...We ARE Creative & Innovative... Jobs, Jobs, Jobs!! Nov 20th 2008 at 2:29 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 2:29 pm EST)

WoW!

Incredible!!!

I Love it!!!!

"Accessorizing the Movement"

"Beautiful"

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By Soma Nov 20th 2008 at 3:00 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 3:00 pm EST)

I have bookmarked your page and will be looking at it when I get Christmas gifts for fellow supporters this year.

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By Debby, NJ...Foot Soldier 'til 2016 !!! Nov 20th 2008 at 3:30 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 3:30 pm EST)

Sorry to butt in, but would anyone have the link for the Obama Calender?

Thanks So Much
Debby

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By Soma Nov 20th 2008 at 3:57 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 3:57 pm EST)

I would like that too. Didn't order it before Nov. 4 because I am superstitious.

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By Stan Z- Christian-President Obama Knows His Stuff Nov 20th 2008 at 4:32 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:32 pm EST)

DNC store maybe the Obama calendar is here? Link

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By Stan Z- Christian-President Obama Knows His Stuff Nov 20th 2008 at 4:35 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:35 pm EST)

It's not an official store-sorry-forget my previous post.

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By Catherine of Riverdale, IL Nov 20th 2008 at 7:42 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 7:42 pm EST)

Whatever happened to the quilt? I still wish I could buy one. They were beautiful!

No sweat: Obamas work fitness into daily routine | Report to Admin

By !Rhonda => As A Man/Woman Thinks in His/Her Heart, So Is He/She...We ARE Creative & Innovative... Jobs, Jobs, Jobs!! Nov 20th 2008 at 2:23 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 2:23 pm EST)

CHICAGO (AP) — Many women recoil at the thought of baring their arms in sleeveless dresses or blouses, but not Michelle Obama — half of the fabulously fit new first couple.

Both President-elect Barack Obama and the future first lady have exercise routines that would put most people to shame. Michelle Obama used to join a friend for 4:30 a.m. workouts, and Barack Obama usually starts his day in the gym.

Michelle Obama has hosted "The View," been interviewed on "60 Minutes," graced the cover of Newsweek and hit the campaign trail, all with her buff arms bared.

"One of the things I always talk about is got to exercise," the 44-year-old mother of two told an overwhelmingly female crowd at a campaign event last year in Chicago.

That's sure to continue when the Obamas and their girls — 10-year-old Malia and 7-year-old Sasha — move into the White House, which has plenty of places for them to stay active.Link

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By Melcy Nov 20th 2008 at 2:31 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 2:31 pm EST)

Yes I am suddenly inspired to start running again. Now if she will share the secrets of how to keep the skin refreshed and luminous.

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By !Rhonda => As A Man/Woman Thinks in His/Her Heart, So Is He/She...We ARE Creative & Innovative... Jobs, Jobs, Jobs!! Nov 20th 2008 at 2:41 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 2:41 pm EST)

Yea! so am I...umm...that is walk but not run 5 days per week.

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By Terri for President Obama & First Lady & your adorable girls & their puppy!!! Nov 20th 2008 at 3:00 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 3:00 pm EST)

I'm inspired to make CHANGES in my own life now....think of the changes they are going to go through and continue to go through......makes my own personal changes seem EASY.

Has anyone else committed to some type of CHANGE in their own life?

Re: No sweat: Obamas work fitness into daily routine | Report to Admin

By Soma Nov 20th 2008 at 3:02 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 3:02 pm EST)

She has amazingly toned arms. i wish I was as tall and well defined.......

Up With Bruce! | Report to Admin

By Cheryl from Boston Feels the Gift Nov 20th 2008 at 2:24 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 2:24 pm EST)

Hello BO-Folks!

Just a wave hello out there, still trying to get work/work caught up and family needs neglected amended...but won't stay away for long...promise!

Went to a Massachusetts State Party the last week for BO volunteers and had the best of times. First true chance to feel the Win with BO-Friends. Our Governor Deval Patrick addressed us as well in thanking us for our state efforts in bringing home New Hampshire for the Win!

We are dedicated here in Massachusetts in staying organized--as I have another party group for my section of Boston to meet after Thanksgiving. Hope all of you are doing the same in your states!

We will by sheer numbers in the name of concern and hard work bring our country up to snuff and then some for future global efforts--because we can!

Besitos y Paz,
Cheryl in Boston

* Happy Birthday Joe! * | Report to Admin

By ☮ CR ❤ Nov 20th 2008 at 2:27 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 2:27 pm EST)

Happy 66th Birthday to our Vice President-Elect Joe Biden!!!

I wonder if they had Ben & Jerry's ice cream with the birthday cupcakes yesterday! (Ben & Jerry's endorsed Barack Obama in the April) Yes WE did!! :)

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By Strong Heart Nov 20th 2008 at 2:35 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 2:35 pm EST)

Cherries for Change!!!

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By Arlene in Maine Nov 20th 2008 at 2:56 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 2:56 pm EST)

YES Pe-CAN!

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By Arlene in Maine Nov 20th 2008 at 2:57 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 2:57 pm EST)

And...Barack-y Road!

I remember when we had fun coming up with new ice cream names for B&J... :D How far we have all come since then!

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By Soma Nov 20th 2008 at 3:04 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 3:04 pm EST)

Happy Birthday Joe. We love you and are thrilled to have you as our VPE.

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By coba11 Nov 20th 2008 at 2:36 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 2:36 pm EST)

HAPPY BIRTHDAY JOE BIDEN. 66 YEARS STRONG. HOPE YOU LIKED THE 12 CUPCAKES OBAMA GOT YOU.

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By Stanley H. Krute Nov 20th 2008 at 2:51 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 2:51 pm EST)

Joe did such a GREAT job during the campaign. He'll be even better during the next 8 years.

Much credit and love to his parents.

Such a mensch that boy is !!!

-- stan

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By Soma Nov 20th 2008 at 4:26 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:26 pm EST)

Joe is a force and I love him to pieces......

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By Strong Heart Nov 20th 2008 at 2:41 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 2:41 pm EST)

Live in Youngstown...

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By Strong Heart Nov 20th 2008 at 2:44 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 2:44 pm EST)

My Hometown...

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By Strong Heart Nov 20th 2008 at 2:46 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 2:46 pm EST)

Bring Them Home...

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By Rob from Arlington, VA Nov 20th 2008 at 2:47 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 2:47 pm EST)

"Here, everybody has a neighbor,
Everybody has a friend.
Everybody has a reason to begin again"

Bruce Springsteen

Chip Sector Optimistic About Obama | Report to Admin

By !Rhonda => As A Man/Woman Thinks in His/Her Heart, So Is He/She...We ARE Creative & Innovative... Jobs, Jobs, Jobs!! Nov 20th 2008 at 2:54 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 2:54 pm EST)

The new administration's reforms are expected to help semiconductor companies.

Global semiconductor sales are expected to drop in 2009, with growth returning in 2010 and 2011, according to data released Wednesday night at the Semiconductor Industry Association's annual awards dinner.

But the bigger news may be the attention the chip industry gets from the tech-savvy Obama administration after being largely ignored for the past eight years.Link

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By Nanci A patriotic dissident Nov 20th 2008 at 2:56 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 2:56 pm EST)

I have been reserving judgement on this blog about Obama's pick of HRC for SoS. I initially thought it was a good thing and was willing to give her the benefit of the doubt. I appreciated the fact that she threw her support behind Obama at the Convention and that she campaigned for him.

However, the NYT article today was the final straw for me. How dare she or Bill or their people try to box Obama in and force him to offer her SoS. Given all the events of the past few days, it's a clear indication to me that Clintons always come with drama.

Keep her in the Senate, she can work on Teddy's subcommittee and he can keep an eye on her.

I really was willing to see her as a good asset and have argued on Huffpo that she was a good choice. But now, I've had it---leopards do not change their spots. She would always be competing for the limelight and would create her own fiefdom at State.

Don't do it Obama. Shut this down while you can. I know you had great intentions and it really could have worked. But there is too much drama and too much division over this. If HRC really wants to do something other than Senate, she can run for Gov. of NY. Cut the Clintons loose and vanquish them.

Ugh---I had resisted taking this position and was trying to see the positive in her choice. But, this is my opinion. I'll be quiet about it after this, but I wanted to finally go on record about it. Sorry to those of you who are fed up with the topic! :-) But I can assure you this is the first and last time I will comment on it (unless of course some of you respond to this post and then of course I will respond as well to your comments.)

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By Soma Nov 20th 2008 at 3:06 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 3:06 pm EST)

I think the issue of HRC's candidacy for SOS needs to be resolved one way or another SOON. Like you, I don't care for the drama and the leaks. It's sticking out like a sore thumb in an otherwise smooth transition process with excellent candidates.

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By Nanci A patriotic dissident Nov 20th 2008 at 3:17 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 3:17 pm EST)

Thanks SOS. I have loved all of Obama's other appointments and I really do trust him. I've held off commmenting unless I had positive things to say about each appointment.

But this drama with HRC doesn't bode well. I hope he'll shut it down in the next day or two and just say they weren't able to vet her.

I'd love to see a nonpolitico get SoS who is a genuine thinker and academic in foreign policy now. Or someone respected by academia who is a practionner. Holbrooke is very respected abroad. Maybe he should get it.

But we just don't need HRC drama. Cut her loose!

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By Smuhamm Nov 22nd 2008 at 3:13 pm EST (Updated Nov 22nd 2008 at 3:13 pm EST)

Don't worry it's the MSM that is making this drama not Hilliary or Bill. But the drama is a good stretegy because it has kept the msm on it while Obama's team do other things behind the scenes. I LOVE IT!!! Obama strategies, I JUST LOVE IT!!!!. We The People must remember things are not what they seem.

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By Nadia from Jacksonville, FL Nov 20th 2008 at 4:11 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:11 pm EST)

Nancy, You are right on Target about your assessment of the "TALK" of Barack offering Hilary the position of SoS. From the beginning I felt that this did not sound right and was concerned by the Media pushing this subject. I truly believe that it is indeed the Clintons Circle pushing for this position to trap Barack and force him to give it to her but everytime I hear the topic discussed by the media - I immediately say that this not so at all and just mind Games to create confusion just as they were doing during the campaign. It is All pschological Mind Games. It will Not work - Not this Time. It is Barack's Time and His turn to Role the Dice and not the Clintons to hold him to Ransome with their Game. Any other position is okay except this High Position as she will be undermining Barack all the times to push herself in the forefront.

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By Nadia from Jacksonville, FL Nov 20th 2008 at 4:33 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:33 pm EST)

Nancy, You are right on Target about your assessment of the "TALK" of Barack offering Hilary the position of SoS. From the beginning I felt that this did not sound right and was concerned by the Media pushing this subject. I truly believe that it is indeed the Clintons Circle pushing for this position to trap Barack and force him to give it to her but everytime I hear the topic discussed by the media - I immediately say that this not so at all and just mind Games to create confusion just as they were doing during the campaign. It is All pschological Mind Games. It will Not work - Not this Time. It is Barack's Time and His turn to Role the Dice and not the Clintons to hold him to Ransome with their Game. Any other position is okay except this High Position as she will be undermining Barack all the times to push herself in the forefront.

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By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 20th 2008 at 3:06 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 3:06 pm EST)

I agree with you Nanci 100%!! Thanks for sharing that!

Smile Jesus Loves you and so do I :-)

Only the truth shall make you free!

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By Michelle Nov 20th 2008 at 3:09 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 3:09 pm EST)

The media likes twist everything to tell a story. I mean prime example is FOX. I mean come on. I don't believe anything unless I hear it from Obama himself.

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By Michelle Nov 20th 2008 at 3:13 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 3:13 pm EST)

Say what you want but the majority of people would like to see her as SOS. This is exactly why I can't blog here much. I'm so tired if always having to defend why I think she'd make an excellent SOS. Gotta love the media. People get so caught up into all of their twists and turns.

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By Strong Heart Nov 20th 2008 at 3:18 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 3:18 pm EST)

It's a Lynch-Mob they wont get off their High-Horse until they hang someone...

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By Nanci A patriotic dissident Nov 20th 2008 at 4:20 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:20 pm EST)

Who is the lynch mob and who are THEY wanting to hang Dennis? I'm not seeing any evidence of a lynch mob in this friendly political discussion. I think you are being a bit polemical yourself here.

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By Nanci A patriotic dissident Nov 20th 2008 at 3:26 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 3:26 pm EST)

Michelle, that's fine. I'm not one that has gotten caught up in every twist and turn of the media on this. And for all of you who've made comments on my post, I don't take the NYT as gospel and I am a critical thinker and I am critical about MSM.

Until today, I was on huffpo and elsewhere arguing vigorously as to why I thought she'd make an excellent SoS. And as for 60% of the population in favor, where do you get that statistic and are you uncritically digesting media there yourself? According to what poll, when, where, what link please does HRC poll at 60%. I'm willing to consider it, but you need to cite your sources before I'm inclined to take that number at face value.

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By Donna No Shock Barack No Drama Obama of MD Nov 20th 2008 at 3:37 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 3:37 pm EST)

Not an HRC fan either but I am trusting Barack's judgement.

Here is the link: Link

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By Suzie McKay Nov 20th 2008 at 3:50 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 3:50 pm EST)

Of all the pollsters I followed during the campaign, I felt I could rely on Gallup's data. They poll cell phone users if they have no landlines, which results in an inclusive sampling.

Re: Hillary. While she wouldn't be my personal choice, it's not a choice based on how one feels personally about the pick. Barack is privy to information we can only guess at. I will support whomever he chooses, whether I like the person or not (and hope he/she grows on me!).

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By Nanci A patriotic dissident Nov 20th 2008 at 3:53 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 3:53 pm EST)

Thanks Donna. I'll pop over there and have a look at it. I like reading these things for myself!

I hear you about trusting obama and that's why I've been quiet until now. In fact, I have actually been defending her as a good choice in other places until this happened.

I trust Obama and I think he's got an ace up his sleeve. There are some behind the scenes stuff going on with this that I think will surprise all of us.

Meanwhile, today I was exercising my democratic right of freedom of speech. But as I've promised this is it for me--a one off this is what I think about it.

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By Donna No Shock Barack No Drama Obama of MD Nov 20th 2008 at 4:05 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:05 pm EST)

I hear you Nanci and we are not far apart in our thinking. I just have such a negative attitude about the press (all of them) because of the things they said and tried to do to Barack throughout this campaign that I just don't trust anything they say at this point. I can only believe it if I hear it directly from Barack or his press otherwise I simply do not trust them.

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By Nanci A patriotic dissident Nov 20th 2008 at 4:15 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:15 pm EST)

Yes it sounds like we are close on this one. Thanks for taking time to explain your response further. It's so hard to trust MSM and I am very skeptical of them. I was going to wait to weigh in on this one until after it was all done and dusted, but today, as I say was the final straw. But I really want to be open and flexible towards HRC and I really do wish the woman well. I'd love to see her find the right position where she can use all her considerable talents.

I think there are wheels within wheels on this one. It will be fun to see what finally happens. :) Cheers!

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By Marbwi Nov 20th 2008 at 4:54 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:54 pm EST)

Majority of public or majority of his voters/Democrats?? I could care less about what the GOP/FOX crowd thinks of his appointments. Many of them are a bit too happy about the HRC choice-- former SOS Republican Lawrence Eagleberger(sp) is one for crying out loud UGH!!. I am more curious about the roughly 30% against it. If the 30% are Obama voters/supporters, then he has a problem.

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By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 20th 2008 at 6:36 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 6:36 pm EST)

I agree MA!

Smile Jesus Loves you and so do I :-)

Only the truth shall make us free!

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By Jade--Who Loves to Decorate Her Latte Cup With Flag Pins! Nov 20th 2008 at 3:09 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 3:09 pm EST)

"However, the NYT article today was the final straw for me"

We are similar. I took the opportunity to voice my full opinion through the "Share your vision" section at change.gov. (Figured it might be more "productive" than to post here.)

I want the best and the brightest selected to all positions. If that includes HRC, fine, but if strongarming is going oon behind the scene, that's unacceptable and toxic.

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By Nanci A patriotic dissident Nov 20th 2008 at 3:20 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 3:20 pm EST)

Thanks Jade. I'll pop on over there and make my thoughts known there. I think that's probably a better forum as you say.

I really did think she'd be great. She still might be great, but the drama is not necessary.

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By Jade--Who Loves to Decorate Her Latte Cup With Flag Pins! Nov 20th 2008 at 3:24 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 3:24 pm EST)

I know that's not what the site is for - just couldn't resist.

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By Nacola Nov 20th 2008 at 4:38 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:38 pm EST)

We all went through this for the VP slot. We have to wait and see. We just got a 3rd of the script lets wait until we get the whole thing.

Okay I am ready to start donating again. I donated $650 for the election. Now next week I will start again. Remember Barack works for us!!

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By Arlene in Maine Nov 20th 2008 at 3:10 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 3:10 pm EST)

Hi Nanci! How great to see your post. I have not read the blog in the past week and just today got on.

I totally agree with you about HRC. This drama crap and all the leaks are not coming from the Obama team...it has NEVER been their M.O. I remember the same maddening and disruptive drama that the Clinton camp stirred up about the veep choice. This smells like the same bad fish. My personal opinion (influenced by my preference, of course) is that this drama will only push Obama AWAY from choosing HRC. He is on record as not wanting this kind of drama, and as being intolerant of this manipulative leaking. I would be surprised if he actually chose her, and would assume he has a grander plan than we can be aware of...otherwise it would be so unlike his administrative style and strengths.

p.s. I commented on this leak about HRC and SOS at the end (of course, ironically) of the previous thread, and how Andrea Mitchell was being touted every five seconds as getting "the get" from two anonymous Obama aids (there are about 700 aids, btw). It started to sound like it was more about Andrea Mitchell than HRC. I am so glad that Obama has already started the process of connecting to the public directly via the net, without the MSM filter...it must be driving the MSM nuts and making them feel threatened as the 4th branch of the govt. That sense of entitlement and importance needs to be stripped from them.

Hope you are happy and doing well!!! xoxo

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By Sariti Nov 20th 2008 at 3:23 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 3:23 pm EST)

Appointing Senator Clinton is a bad idea. If the President-elect is truly for change he needs someone who supports that and so far Clinton has held true to business as usual.

This is about the differences between these two individuals, the differences between their stated foreign policy and Obama's promise for change.

Clinton did not win. America elected Obama and change.

The repeated debates between these two candidates clearly showed one area where she and Obama differed tremendously. That area is foreign policy.

She supported the Iraq war, he is against it. Clinton was unapologetic about voting for the war despite pleas from her own constituency to admit it was a mistake. Alternatively, she took a hard stance and further disagreed with Obama's idea of withdrawal.

Under no circumstances does Clinton want to speak with Iran. Obama, on the other hand, stated that he felt speaking to Iran was a requirement for getting them past their nuclear weapons ambitions. Her policy ironically is to use ours on them if they did not submit to US demands.

Further, Clinton has said nothing of changing policy toward Afghanistan and Pakistan, two issues that were central to Obama's foreign policy platform. Nor has she commented on how to move beyond either war toward a more sustainable peace.

She has shown through her own statements that she is definitely more hawkish than he is. I wonder if she can stand down when he says so.

Appointing Clinton Secretary of State is not what the US needs especially when it is trying to repair its relationships in the world, end two wars and get the Middle East peace process back on track.

With Clinton America will be back to implementing the same international policies we see today. A policy that is pentagon heavy and diplomatically light. A policy that is internally fractured and divisive instead of comprehensive and cohesive. A policy that has not learned to look beyond dominance and war.

If Obama is serious about turning America around, he should not be considering another Clintonite at all. He should be considering others. Someone like Nebraska Senator Chuck Hagel would be my pick and a much wiser choice.

Hagel has spoken out against the war, supported many of Obama's initiatives in the Senate, as well as during his campaign, and, as a Republican, would help bridge between party lines.

Hagel also understands that the US

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By Nanci A patriotic dissident Nov 20th 2008 at 3:33 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 3:33 pm EST)

Hi Arlene!!!! I haven't been on much either the past week or so until the last couple days. I've been looking out for you.

I didn't read the earlier blog so I missed your post. I'll have to go back and read it. I agree with what you've said.

Honestly, I really was cheerleading for the woman, ready to bury the hatchet and give her the benefit of the doubt. But this last round just smells and I don't like it.

And the NYT is not the gospel and it's not always right, but sometimes it is right and this has gone on a long time and it is very suspicious.

A lot of people at State are not thrilled with it either.

I think what gets me is that I was thinking it could work out and then the typical clinton pattern emerged and now I think it would be very divisive and corrosive to Obama's agenda and to his team.

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By Arlene in Maine Nov 20th 2008 at 3:43 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 3:43 pm EST)

Yes, when this drama started AGAIN, it felt just like de-jah-voo all over again. I had exactly the same visceral feeling as when the Clintonistas and the MSM seemed to be trying to strong-arm Obama into taking her as is veep. And, AGAIN, there is talk of all the negotiating about paying off her outstanding campaign debt...will this never end??? It's that same sense of narcissistic entitlement that smells so bad. She should be kissing his butt for a plum appointment like that...there are other just as, or more qualified people for the SOS...that don't bring any baggage or freaking DRAMA. In fact, the more I think of it, the more it doesn't seem possible...it just doesn't fit with Obama's consistency and steadiness through this entire process.

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By Nanci A patriotic dissident Nov 20th 2008 at 3:58 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 3:58 pm EST)

I forgot to say hugs to you too!!!!

Yes, it does remind me of the whole veep thing. For a couple days I was actually very optimistic---Bill was going to do whatever it took to cooperate and I thought that bode very well. But now, I think, okay, I've been had again!

We just don't need the drama. I think Obama is very machiavellian in a good sort of way and that he is one step ahead of it. I'll be fascinated to see what comes of all of this. My theory is he was giving her and Bill just enough rope to hang themselves. And it was all going very well, but of course, they just couldn't resist the drama and here we go again.

I think she should go work for Teddy on a healthcare subcommittee now and be grateful! :-) I'm like you, I hate the sense of entitlement that comes across from the Clinton camp and that was the final straw for me.

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By Soma Nov 20th 2008 at 4:05 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:05 pm EST)

And, say she gets the position, is this how it's going to be going forward?
Making statements by leaking information ahead of time? Turning everything into a 3 ring circus?
If HRC is to be SOS, her people really need a change in style so that she can do the job substantively.

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By Donna No Shock Barack No Drama Obama of MD Nov 20th 2008 at 3:12 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 3:12 pm EST)

I remember the NY Times reporting that Barack Obama would never win blue collar workers in PA and OH. I remember the NY Times saying that Barack was not tough enough to take on the Karl Rove Republican Machine. I remember the NY Times reporting that the "race" was tightening and McCain had a "real" chance of winning the election. Oh Well We Won!

So much for stories in the NY Times

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By Michelle Nov 20th 2008 at 3:17 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 3:17 pm EST)

And if I am not mistaken, there have been leaks about all of Obama's cabinet members so far. Wonder where those are all coming from? I'm sure those came from the Hillary side also.

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By Arlene in Maine Nov 20th 2008 at 3:22 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 3:22 pm EST)

Yes, but they have all been followed up on and confirmed without any drama...no backroom deal-making, no negotiating, no resistance to vetting...you get the picture.

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By Soma Nov 20th 2008 at 4:23 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:23 pm EST)

And they have been confirmed quickly and decidedly. This thing is just dragging on and on with HRC.
As I've said, if they want to appoint her, they should do it quickly and be done with it so we can move on.

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By Jade--Who Loves to Decorate Her Latte Cup With Flag Pins! Nov 20th 2008 at 3:23 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 3:23 pm EST)

IF what is being described is accurate (not assuming that it is) then it would make sense that Obama aides could be leaking to disrupt the Clinton drama in the media and focus the attention back on the ENTIRE transition, not just the SOS position.

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By Donna No Shock Barack No Drama Obama of MD Nov 20th 2008 at 3:38 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 3:38 pm EST)

BINGO!

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By Nanci A patriotic dissident Nov 20th 2008 at 3:39 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 3:39 pm EST)

That's my read of the article as well. I also think they're actually leaking it in order to create the space so Obama can walk the appointment back.

Obama's staff are very leakproof and they haven't been quoted before now that I can ever remember leaking stuff. So the fact they are and that its being reported makes me think that they're doing so with Obama's permission and they're knocking down this appointment. It will be very interesting to see how this plays out.

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By Soma Nov 20th 2008 at 4:24 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:24 pm EST)

If this is the case, I don't care to play these games to any extent. It's not how Barack operates and it's not efficient or dignified.

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By Connie Obama (Not held hostage by polls or media) Nov 20th 2008 at 9:01 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 9:01 pm EST)

The NY Times endorsed Hillary early on in the primary. It is HER paper.

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By Lucy Hussein Nov 21st 2008 at 12:10 am EST (Updated Nov 21st 2008 at 12:10 am EST)

Link

Interesting NYT article--I wouldn't say that it's 'her paper.' This says that the people who would have to work with her would need "the heft to keep Mrs. Clinton’s outsized personality in check."

Apparently, if HRC gets the position, two of Obama's closest foreign policy advisors will probably not accept certain posts; since they were key in showing during the primaries that her actual foreign policy experience was far less than she was claiming (remember the First Lady schedule and the sniper fire?). Interesting to see how much drama is surrounding her even now...

FTA:"...if Mrs. Clinton doesn’t get the Secretary of State job, Democratic advisers say a whole host of opportunities open back up for all of the Obama foreign policy types who got on her bad side during the primaries."

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By Lorraine Nov 20th 2008 at 3:19 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 3:19 pm EST)

I haven't commented on the blog about this issue but I have made my feelings known on other blogs. I'm fasting and praying that President-elect Obama DOES NOT pick Hillary Clinton to be his Secretary of State.

...as far as I know, he is not a muslim, remember that one?

I don't trust her, I don't care how many campaign events she did for him.

Governor Richardson blew up his personal relationship with the Clintons to back then Senator Obama. He delievered constantly, everytime he was on television or on a campaign stop.

President-elect Obama owes Governor Richardson this nomination because when Jeremiah Wright ranting like a sinner, Governor Richardson was there for him.

Politically, if President-elect Obama picks Governor Richardson he will lock up, Nevada, New Mexico, Colorado and probably Arizona in 2012.

If President-elect Obama listens to the Lord, he knows what to do, give Governor Richardson this appointment, if he doesn't this is not the change I believe it.

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By Lucy Hussein Nov 21st 2008 at 12:16 am EST (Updated Nov 21st 2008 at 12:16 am EST)

While I think there are some who might be better picks, I would be thrilled with Bill Richardson being SoS. His temporment, social skills, and vast negotiation experience would be a huge plus.

However, I would disagree that Obama "owes" anyone for an endorsement. I should hope he wouldn't be doling out positions as 'pay-back' like many other presidents have done but rather, picking the best people.

Also, I must admit that I was very disappointed that Richardson took so long to make his endorsement public. It could have made a huge difference at a crucial part of the race--Texas and Nevada (two big losses for Obama)--had he stepped up just a bit earlier. But we all know that he 'paid' dearly anyway (being called Judas and all), so we have to respect him for not bowing under the pressure to endorse HRC simply b/c the Clintons felt that he 'owed' them.

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By Lorraine Nov 20th 2008 at 3:21 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 3:21 pm EST)

I haven't commented on the blog about this issue but I have made my feelings known on other blogs. I'm fasting and praying that President-elect Obama DOES NOT pick Hillary Clinton to be his Secretary of State.

...as far as I know, he is not a muslim, remember that one?

I don't trust her, I don't care how many campaign events she did for him.

Governor Richardson blew up his personal relationship with the Clintons to back then Senator Obama. He delievered constantly, everytime he was on television or on a campaign stop.

President-elect Obama owes Governor Richardson this nomination because when Jeremiah Wright ranting like a sinner, Governor Richardson was there for him.

Politically, if President-elect Obama picks Governor Richardson he will lock up, Nevada, New Mexico, Colorado and probably Arizona in 2012.

If President-elect Obama listens to the Lord, he knows what to do, give Governor Richardson this appointment, if he doesn't this is not the change I believe it.

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By Arlene in Maine Nov 20th 2008 at 3:27 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 3:27 pm EST)

Yes, and isn't it "interesting" that I only heard ONE mention that Obama also met with Richardson about the SOS position...could have been the same day as HRC, not sure. MSM and Clintonistas are driving this story into the ground, where it will hopefully be buried for good.

Don't know how many more stories about dodging sniper fire I can stomach...meowwwrrr! pffffttt! Sorry, but I'm NOT sorry.

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By Nanci A patriotic dissident Nov 20th 2008 at 4:09 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:09 pm EST)

Thanks Lorraine. I'm praying for Obama too on this one. I pray that God will fill him full of wisdom. If the right choice is HRC, so be it. I just so want him to do well and succeed. He's doing an amazing job assembling his team and I appreciate his altruism and generosity in extending an olive branch to HRC. I pray he'll be wise as a serpent and innocent as a dove! He already is very much like that---e.g. with the whole Leiberman thing! I was impressed by that one.

I like Richardson too and I really hope that he gets a great appointment. I wonder if the reason Obama hasn't appointed him to anything yet is he's waiting for the Clinton drama to play out.

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By Lorraine Nov 20th 2008 at 4:42 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:42 pm EST)

You are welcome, dear. I know President-elect Obama loves President Lincoln (I do too) and want to be like him, but President Lincoln aint comin' back but Jesus is and he need to be like Jesus and listen to God the Father. All this drama, God is trying to tell him something and He is saying, son don't do it, don't pick her. :)

President-elect Obama has done well so far. In the Primaries he listened to the Lord which is why he won. In the words of the Color Purple, "God is trying to tell you something."

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By Marbwi Nov 20th 2008 at 5:33 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:33 pm EST)

President Lincoln chose Seward, but Seward was not a former president or spouse of one. Also, throughout history, the TEAM OF RIVALS thing did not always work out for the better.

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By Nanci A patriotic dissident Nov 20th 2008 at 5:55 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:55 pm EST)

That's what's so worrying about this whole 'team of rivals' discourse. It works in some instances with some people in some periods of history.

It's not a magic formula for success each and everytime. I pray Obama will be wise as to when it applies and when it doesn't. Lincoln, his role model, is a role model, but that's as far as it goes. The historical periods were different as were the challenges. You can't apply everything from Lincoln today and think it will work. It's becoming a mantra which is always dangerous.

And to Lorraine, I loved the Color Purple. One of my favorite movies and books ever.

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By Lucy Hussein Nov 21st 2008 at 12:21 am EST (Updated Nov 21st 2008 at 12:21 am EST)

You're absolutely right, it doesn't always work. Although Seward was a total Machiavellian who initially didn't respect Lincoln, after working with him he became one of Lincoln's most loyal and trusted allies.

I would not put HRC in this category--I have said it before: since Obama is supposedly "obsessed" with the story of Lincoln's cabinet, he also knows about Salmon Chase, whom he made the Sec of Treasury. Chase did a good job but NEVER quit trying to undermine Lincoln. He never quit running for president. Lincoln for the most part kept the upper hand, but Chase was a major thorn in his side from start to finish (even after Lincoln acquiesced and made him Supreme Court Justice. Not saying that HRC would be as bad as Chase was, but his story is a good example of why it's not always wise to keep ALL your rivals close at hand.

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By CHELSEA Nov 21st 2008 at 12:09 am EST (Updated Nov 21st 2008 at 12:09 am EST)

Yes, I remember that statement HRC made "He's not a Muslim--as far as I know."
Shameful.
Her response should have been, "No, he's not a Muslim, and even if he were, SO WHAT?"
That would have been the classy non-bigoted response.
Thank God, Colin Powell had the cahonies to STAND UP and squash the bigotry.
How do you think Muslims feel when they had to her that crap?

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By CHELSEA Nov 21st 2008 at 12:28 am EST (Updated Nov 21st 2008 at 12:28 am EST)

Yes, I remember that statement HRC made "He's not a Muslim--as far as I know."
Shameful.
Her response should have been, "No, he's not a Muslim, and even if he were, SO WHAT?"
That would have been the classy non-bigoted response.
Thank God, Colin Powell had the cahonies to STAND UP and squash the bigotry.
How do you think Muslims feel when they had to her that crap?

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By ♥ dreamweaver "Grab A Mop" ♥ aka Vicki from Iowa Nov 20th 2008 at 3:22 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 3:22 pm EST)

I have mixed feelings too Nanci. Hate all the drama and the proposed box they are putting Barack in. The benefit of the doubt only goes so far IMHO.

Hugs, Vicki

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By Lorraine Nov 20th 2008 at 3:22 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 3:22 pm EST)

Nancy, BRAVO...love! B-R-A-V-O!!!!!!!!!!

haven't commented on the blog about this issue but I have made my feelings known on other blogs. I'm fasting and praying that President-elect Obama DOES NOT pick Hillary Clinton to be his Secretary of State.

...as far as I know, he is not a muslim, remember that one?

I don't trust her, I don't care how many campaign events she did for him.

Governor Richardson blew up his personal relationship with the Clintons to back then Senator Obama. He delievered constantly, everytime he was on television or on a campaign stop.

President-elect Obama owes Governor Richardson this nomination because when Jeremiah Wright ranting like a sinner, Governor Richardson was there for him.

Politically, if President-elect Obama picks Governor Richardson he will lock up, Nevada, New Mexico, Colorado and probably Arizona in 2012.

If President-elect Obama listens to the Lord, he knows what to do, give Governor Richardson this appointment, if he doesn't this is not the change I believe it.

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By Sharon Nov 20th 2008 at 3:29 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 3:29 pm EST)

Hi Nanci:
I've had mixed feelings too. We've all learned throughout this process that you can't always trust what you see or hear in the press. Today, I decided that I will trust Barack Obama to make this decision. No one will put him in a box or strong arm him into making this decision. If the drama is being generated by the Hill/Bill camp, he will not tolerate it and he will not pick her. If it's not being generated by her camp, and if he believes she will work as part of his team to carry the message that he wants carried, he will pick her.

I do agree that we need an answer soon so that we can move on. I also hope that there is a good place for Bill Richardson if it is not as SoS.

Barack Obama will make the right decision, and it won't be because he was manipulated in any way.

Just my humble opinion.

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By AZgrammy-'O'-wing Nov 20th 2008 at 3:33 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 3:33 pm EST)

Which NY Times article are you referring to?
Do you have a link?

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By Nanci A patriotic dissident Nov 20th 2008 at 3:45 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 3:45 pm EST)

Here's the link to the full article. Link

The Huffpo article just takes a couple sentences out of it.

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By Strong Heart Nov 20th 2008 at 3:47 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 3:47 pm EST)

Talk about pressure you have a fire burning and are intent on burning a witch, Young virgins beware!!!

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By Nanci A patriotic dissident Nov 20th 2008 at 4:02 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:02 pm EST)

Gooodness Strong HEart, that's a bit dramatic don't you think. Sheesh!!!!

I'm not talking about burning any witches here. I'm just saying, I really was for the woman, resisted piling in on her for two weeks and said I don't like the current state of affairs. How the hell is that witch burning?

And also, I have been positive here and cheerleading every day for Obama and his wise appointments. Expressing one's opinion does not constitute burning a witch. Maybe your'e the guilty one there pal. And I like you and respect your comments most days. But today I am disappointed by your comments because I thought you of all people understood nuance. Guess I was wrong.

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By Strong Heart Nov 20th 2008 at 4:19 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:19 pm EST)

You bring in the Communist and call me Dramatic...

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By Nanci A patriotic dissident Nov 20th 2008 at 4:25 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:25 pm EST)

Strong Heart I honestly have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. You completely and utterly lost me. Maybe we're commenting in parallell universes, I certainly don't think you're in mine at the moment! LoL

I didn't bring in the communist and by the communist what do you mean? What are you talking about? Who said anything about a Communist?

All I said was that I'm not thrilled at the moment with HRC as SoS choice and explained my rationale, so yes, I think you're being dramatic. But explain yourself and I'll retract it and apologize.

I've stood up for you countless times and have supported you and your comments and opinions so am quite shocked by your attack.

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By Arlene in Maine Nov 20th 2008 at 4:21 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:21 pm EST)

Sometimes that's what living in a labrynth of metaphors does to ya, I guess! Hellllooooooo in theeerrrreee!

You are totally on point Nanci...there are no witches to burn here.

It's important that we express our thoughts and feelings when it comes to whether or not we trust others to steer our nation (and the world) in a positive direction. For me...true change has come to require leaving BOTH dynasties behind, or effectively contained/constrained/marginal ized. The Bushes and Clintons both meet the criteria for observation that power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

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By Nanci A patriotic dissident Nov 20th 2008 at 4:32 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:32 pm EST)

Thanks Arlene! I thought I was being very nuanced and rational and agreeable in my approach. I'm not saying anyone has to agree with me. I'm just exercising my democratic freedom of speech and casting my nay vote and explaining why in a very friendly and agreeable way.

I'm not having a hissy fit. I'm not taking my toys and going home. Just communicatin! I thought that was the point of this blog, ya know? So where witches come into it, I just dunno.

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By Arlene in Maine Nov 20th 2008 at 4:48 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:48 pm EST)

I dunno either. Strong Heart has been posting what he thinks may be Yoda-like comments all through this thread. And there's this Wade guy. And it's like they're tripping the life fantastic through all the posts and shooting at each other with their light sticks, leaving annoying little cigarette burns all over the place. As for the witches? Maybe he hasn't taken down his Halloween decorations yet...it hasn't been 3 weeks yet.

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By Nanci A patriotic dissident Nov 20th 2008 at 5:09 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:09 pm EST)

Heee! Lol! You cheer me up Arlene! I'm visualizing Strong Heart and Wade's tripping through the light fantastic smoking their peyote or whatever drugs and making their yoda like comments wearing orange and black! :-)

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By Nanci A patriotic dissident Nov 20th 2008 at 4:38 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:38 pm EST)

Thanks everyone! I appreciate your comments and spirited debate. Sorry if I didn't get back to everyone that directly replied to me.

Ooops and strongheart, I now see the communist comment was made by Sarin and you were responding to that. Sorry about that. I couldn't figure out for the life of me why you were talking about witch hunts and communists based on what I said. The thread got really long and it got hard to tell who was saying what to whom. I apologize to you Strongheart! We were in parallell universes---parallell threads.

Okay, I'm moving off this particular topic and am going to join the conversation downthread.

Cheers to all of you great people, cheers even to the trolls.

A new day is dawning in America. yay Obama!!!!!!!

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By Mary Bailey Nov 20th 2008 at 4:46 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:46 pm EST)

Nanci, early on one of my first blogs on my Opage was The Clinton Chronicles I do believes some leopards change spots but..............Im not sure
Barack is a wise man and I love him despite his
appointments. I hope Richardson has a better chance.

Hello to all Obama Bloggers

Mary the Varpenter

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By Nanci A patriotic dissident Nov 20th 2008 at 5:00 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:00 pm EST)

Thanks Mary! Existentially, I actually think some leopards can change their spots too! It's the hope of redemption and of being human and being capable of change for the better. And where would each one of us be if we didn't think we could change for the better. Practically it doesn't happen often in politics, but one can hope and pray! And when it does happen, what a sight to behold.

I love that Obama offered that hope to Leibermann and to Clinton.

I do think Richardson will get a cabinet post or something commensurate with his abilities and skills. Don't worry. I would be shocked if Obama doesn't give him something really good.

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By Mick >>"You may say I am dreamer, but I am not the only one!" Nov 20th 2008 at 7:26 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 7:26 pm EST)

Good Morning Nancy :)

Mick
Link

global poverty | Report to Admin

By Maryna from Seattle, WA Nov 20th 2008 at 2:57 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 2:57 pm EST)

I wish the candidate would discuss global poverty more. According to The Borgen Project:
$30 billion: Annual shortfall to end world hunger.
$540 billion: Annual U.S. Defense Budget

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By Sandra in PA, blogging here since day one and volunteering for BO since he announced his candidacy Feb. 10, '07 Nov 20th 2008 at 3:41 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 3:41 pm EST)

"Candidate?" Just which "candidate" are you referring to? Are we having an election I'm unaware of?

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By Archaeology Jim Hussein Nov 20th 2008 at 5:00 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:00 pm EST)

Way to jump on that little type-o like the last dinner role.

You should end your sentences with a little ;) that will release the pressure of your words.

VPE Joe Biden | Report to Admin

By 44th …Embracing the change Nov 20th 2008 at 3:08 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 3:08 pm EST)

Happy Birthday To You, Happy Birthday To You, Happy Birthday To You, Happy Birthday Dear Joe, Happy Birthday To You!!

Enjoy and God Bless

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By ♥ dreamweaver "Grab A Mop" ♥ aka Vicki from Iowa Nov 20th 2008 at 3:23 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 3:23 pm EST)

My sentiments exactly.

Hugs, Vicki

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By Hélène, with an H... like in Barack ! Nov 20th 2008 at 4:19 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:19 pm EST)

It's Joe birthday today ?????

I need more news from Joe, I missed him.

Joyeux Anniversaire, Joe !

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By Soma Nov 20th 2008 at 3:58 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 3:58 pm EST)

Bush is known as a misanthrope the world over. He has managed to insult everyone at least once.

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By Celtic Nov 20th 2008 at 4:22 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:22 pm EST)

The "Obama recession" Link

Rahm Emanuel meets the press: Both parties needed to solve problems Link

'What Up, My Obama?': How the president-elect inspired a rapper to clean up his language Link

Bush's land mines for Obama Link

Pritzker Nomination in Doubt Link

Miami Mayor Manny Diaz for HUD? Link

Beau Biden ships out to Iraq Link

Please help us keep you informed Link

Obama names six Indians to transition team Link
Janet Napolitano: Obama's choice for Homeland Security secretary Link
VIDEO- Lieberman: "Obviously Barack Obama is not a Marxist." Link
Obama Policy Leaders Chosen Link
PHOTO- Happy Birthday, Mr. Vice President-elect! Link
VIDEO- George W. Bush's Exit Interview Link
New Yorkers Approve of Clinton Moving On Link
Diversity: Obama Taps First-Ever Blogger to Be in Cabinet Link
Missouri breaks bellwether streak with John McCain win over Barack Obama Link
VIDEO- Election Day Voices in Grant Park Link
VIDEO-- "The Obama effect": Barbara Mikulski reacts to Obama's Senate resignation Link
Mr. Hillary may give up foreign income Link
Future Attorney General Holder: The Anti-Bushie Link
MyBo Link
Obama Taps Daschle for HHS Link
Al Qaida #2 calls Obama a "House Negro" Link
Clinton May Need to Pay Debt Before Accepting Post Link
Late Show - Top 10 Things Overheard During Obama's Meeting with McCain Link
McCain to set up PAC to seek 5th Senate term Link
Florida write-in tally is in!!! Link
Obama in Talks With Defense Secretary Gates Link
Poland denies Barack Obama cannibal 'joke' Link
Obama picks Eric Holder for Attorney General Link
Obama still fundraising .... for the transition Link
Sasha and Malia play (White) house Link
VIDEO: Obama's (snark-infested) transition team Link
No Drama Obama: "If You Leak, You're Gone." Link
vIDEO- Barack Obama- A New Chapter on Climate Change Link
4 Million Expected To Fill DC Mall For Inauguration Link
The Day After, two weeks later Link
Helping the fire victims: Obama's big rolodex and bigger heart Link
VIDEObama: GQ Man of the Year Link
Obama and McCain: Together again for the first time Link
Change Bulgaria Can Believe In Link
(Video) 60 Minutes, CBS: Barack Obama, Michelle Obama Complete Interview Link
Photogenic Obamas Link
Obaby Boom Link
VIDEO- A New Attack Ad Hits Obama Link
Obama News Mosaic Link
Obama On The Cover Of Ebony Link
Overnight Happy Photos Link
Happy Photos Link

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By Celtic Nov 20th 2008 at 9:42 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 9:42 pm EST)

BREAKING: Verizon employees hacked Obama's cell phone Link

Kenya feeling Obama's magic? Link

Help Design a New Obobble Link

Bush 41 National Security Adviser Brent Scowcroft consulting with Obama Link

Poll-itics: GOP image goes from bad to worse Link

Please help us keep you informed Link

200,000 resumes + a cell phone = No small change Link

Is Obama Wooing McCain? Link

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By Strong Heart Nov 20th 2008 at 3:33 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 3:33 pm EST)

Read his profile, Communist!

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By cindy from tucson Nov 20th 2008 at 3:45 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 3:45 pm EST)

Yes...but, what HAS she done...do YOU know?? She's been a darn good governor of Arizona and been great for our state. I think you are off-based in your attempt to criticize the pick.

Senior Transition Team Selection Process Commentator position | Report to Admin

By rich Nov 20th 2008 at 3:24 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 3:24 pm EST)

Ok, word on the netroots blogosphere is that there's a highly sensitive, vastly instrumental virtual position created by (none other than) The Powers That Be, entitled :

WUPLAMIAP

(Wake Up People, Look At Me, I'm A Peacock !)

or it's official title:

Senior Transition Team Selection Process Commentator

So, don't fall all over yourselves, because the requirements state emphatically that the only people that need to apply are those that complain day-in, day-out, about how Obama has been selecting his transition team members, soon to be his cabinet team.

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By Monroe Nov 20th 2008 at 3:36 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 3:36 pm EST)

No Clinton for State. Susan Rice for secretary of state. We need someone who is not a warmonger. Hillary doesn't understand war and peace. SUSAN RICE!!!

Who are these people that "believe in" Hillary? What do they believe in? What exactly does she have in her political philosophy that attracts them? All I see is an adoration, probably motivated essentially by envy, of an alpha-female.

Let's remember why Obama won. It was because he was ONE OF US. He was the smartest, most charismatic, most powerful anti-war activist in American politics. Clinton and McCain lost because they were not that. Do not give the warmongers power over our foreign policy!

Not only does Hillary carry the Iraq baggage and lack (to my knowledge) any special insight on foreign policy (please prove me wrong), Bill Clinton is a big problem. He said he would step away from his foundation and alert the administration to his speaking schedule in order to pave the way for his wife. Great Bill, but two problems. First he's basically admitting that his foreign entanglements present a conflict of interest. Second, let's be clear, his foundation actually does some good work fighting AIDS and poverty. He should keep doing it; it would be a loss to the world for him to step down. But he can't allow it to become a backdoor to the state department for influence peddling. Plus it would add inefficiency to the State Department if part of their official duty is to keep a close eye on Bill Clinton. Just keep him out and let him do his own thing.

I would be extremely happy with Chuck Hagel at State. This man deserves something in the cabinet. He has been the greatest voice of reason on foreign policy in the Republican Party for the past decade. He has a good relationship with Obama and has incredible knowledge, wisdom, and judgment, and would add to the pledge of bipartisanship. So Susan Rice and Hagel are both good suggestions, and perhaps he would be even better.

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By Lorraine Nov 20th 2008 at 3:44 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 3:44 pm EST)

Governor Richardson deserves this appointment. But if he doesn't give it to him (it would be one of the BIGGEST mistakes in his President-elect Presidency), Chuck Hagel would be great! I love him and his is honest and trustworthy something I can't say about Hillary Clinton at the moment.

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By Patriot2008 Nov 20th 2008 at 6:47 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 6:47 pm EST)

I like Bill Richardson, also. He would be able to communicate better with Chavez, the rest of Latin America, and South America. I suspect that he will be able to communicate with the Arab world, too. Honestly, the Arab world is still male oriented. They may disrespect Hillary not because of her policies but because of her gender. Whomever is selected, I am certain will be able to handle the myriad of situations.

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By rainy Nov 20th 2008 at 3:46 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 3:46 pm EST)

I agree! I do not trust Hillary nor Bill Clinton, period. I know these two will form a shadow government and work against Obama's foreign policies. Don't do it Obama!!

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By Mick >>"You may say I am dreamer, but I am not the only one!" Nov 20th 2008 at 7:14 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 7:14 pm EST)

YUP

Just DON'T do it!

(That call's a "change" doesn't?" :)

Mick
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By Cilla...Currently living in Spain and lovin' it Nov 20th 2008 at 3:47 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 3:47 pm EST)

This blog has become way to damn depressing to even come here since Barack Obama won the nomination.

WTH happened to ALL of his supporters????

I am going to sign off this website for good,can't stand this crap anymore. PEOPLE NEED TO REALLY EDUCATE themselves when it comes to politics and STOP the CHILDISH behavior.

BARACK OBAMA WILL NOT STAND A CHNANCE WITH ALL THIS CRAP on HIS OWN WEBSITE!!!!

HOW UTTERLY EMBARASSING FOR HIM. SO this is now the RESULT of 21vmonths of hard work that so many have done???

THIS IS TOTALY SICKENING. SEE YA!!!!

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By Arlene in Maine Nov 20th 2008 at 3:57 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 3:57 pm EST)

That's okay Cilla...Take a break and come back later. Peace.

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By Dinora Nov 20th 2008 at 4:32 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:32 pm EST)

Arlene don't leave please don't give in thats exactly what they want to do so they can say see all his supporters left, I'm no even sure if this are the real ones maybe someone is hijacking their names lest just try to ignore them the more attention we pay the more they post let post as many positive comments as we can.

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By Archaeology Jim Hussein Nov 20th 2008 at 3:59 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 3:59 pm EST)

Stay aboard, just ignore the fear mongers and dark trolls.

Yes We Can!

In Obama We Trust!

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By Donna No Shock Barack No Drama Obama of MD Nov 20th 2008 at 4:00 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:00 pm EST)

You have O-Mail

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By shawnmarie Nov 20th 2008 at 4:01 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:01 pm EST)

Cilla -- PLEASE don't stop posting!!!

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By Suzie McKay Nov 20th 2008 at 4:08 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:08 pm EST)

If all the good people leave this blog, what will be left?

Stay.

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By Czarina rhiannon hussein aka le chat Nov 20th 2008 at 4:14 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:14 pm EST)

I hate for you to leave, Cilla, but I certainly understand. I almost left two days ago but decided not to. Now I'm not so sure myself. I heard pundits very obviously referring to our blog on the news. I was actually embarrassed for us and I felt really bad for Barack. He's working his heart out for us and everyone else in this country, including the ingrates. He has the biggest job of any President in years and years. And many of the folks on this blog sound like a bunch of self-absorbed babies. Me, me, me . . . what I want, what I want, . . . It's one thing to have opinions, it's another to sound like you actually believe the world revolves around your and your desires and wishes. I suggest few complaining anywhere near capable of being President. Maybe everyone who still supports Barack should leave and let the whiners have it to themselves. I don't know anymore. It's disgusting. Barack believes in us and this is what he gets?

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By Cilla...Currently living in Spain and lovin' it Nov 20th 2008 at 4:23 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:23 pm EST)

Exactly.

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By Lace; Yes We Did Nov 20th 2008 at 4:23 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:23 pm EST)

I'm with you. I don't hardly post anymore because it's always people whining--there's nothing uplifting or fun now, it seems.

Additionally, what REALLY bothers me is that the people who are posting here are doing it only for ATTENTION, because if they really CARED who was in his cabinet, they could contact the G-D- campaign via the contact us form: Link , NOT tell the rest of us supporters, which is what they're doing.

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By Czarina rhiannon hussein aka le chat Nov 20th 2008 at 4:31 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:31 pm EST)

Most definitely appear to be attention-seekers. I wish all of us who want to work with Barack could agree, really agree, to completely ignore the whiners and complainers. Typically I wouldn't say to ignore in mass, but we need to get ourselves in gear. There are too many problems to be faced to continue to spend time appeasing (there's that word) a bunch of immature whiners. We need to support Barack and each other, determine what we can do to help, and make it clear that he has MANY behind him.

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By Arlene in Maine Nov 20th 2008 at 4:38 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:38 pm EST)

Just checking in here. I hope you aren't referring to the civil political discussion we have been having above about SOS, under Nanci's post. It's okay to discuss what we think and feel, and we aren't looking for attention...just seeking a like-minded discussion of views. Peace.

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By Nanci A patriotic dissident Nov 20th 2008 at 4:54 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:54 pm EST)

Seriously! I hope it isn't either as I thought that was one of the better agree to disagree, civil discussions other than a few wayward comments, that we've had on the blog in a long time.

Dissent is okay people. It's okay to debate issues on here without being negative.

I am thrilled Obama has been elected. I've been on the blog for the past couple days saying Yay excitedly after every appointment has been announced.

But, if no dissent or discussion is allowed on here, I'm thinking the appellation Obamabot is true. And we aren't obamabots here are we? I didn't think so!

I think this transition process is very exciting and we all have a voice and a piece of it because we all played our various roles in getting Obama elected. That is why some people are so vested in commenting on various appointments, it's out of a sense of ownership and participation. Surely that's a good thing?

Just ignore the whiners and don't let them get you down y'all. I see the glass half full and although there has been whining, trolls and some naysayers, I find this blog on the whole very positive and constructive. I'm not sure where you all are seeing all the doom and gloom negativity. Honestly. Help me with that.

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By Hélène, with an H... like in Barack ! Nov 20th 2008 at 4:50 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:50 pm EST)

Lace, please, continue to post. I'm often looking for you name, and I really miss people like you here. I want the uplighting atmosphere and the fun again. It was usefull.

Re: Re:WAY TO DEPRESSING.... | Report to Admin

By ★Hold Firmly Without Wavering,To The Hope That We Confess★- bonnie4Obama of MD Nov 20th 2008 at 5:26 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:26 pm EST)

AMEN and AMEN! DITTO!!!! I have preached this from the beginning, Lace. You tell them!!! People, if you think you know better than PE and his team, you should most definitely be contacting HQ and sharing all that Wisdom!!

Re: Re:WAY TO DEPRESSING.... | Report to Admin

By Mary Bailey Nov 20th 2008 at 5:39 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:39 pm EST)

THERE WAS A TROLL(JB IN FL) ON LAST NIGHT THAT I THINK WANTED TO CREATE WHAT YOU ARE FEELING NOW

WE HAVE TO BE ALITTLE STRONGER BECAUSE ITS NOT GOING TO BE EASY......WE HAVE STAY ON TRACK..

IM HOLDING ON TO THE END............MARY

Re: Re:WAY TO DEPRESSING.... | Report to Admin

By HijoDeRon Nov 20th 2008 at 5:41 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:41 pm EST)

CILLA!

My girl! you may not remember me, but right after New Hampshire, I was ready to give up, and go away, and you were one of the people who inspired me to NOT do so...

I'd like to ask the same of you. There is a lot of negativity posting lately, but don't wear it like you own it...you don't.

I hope we can count on your resilience and passion as the O-team moves into power and NEEDS us "boots on the ground"

I haven't had a whole lot to say lately, being that i am basking in the joy of the election, but I couldn't let this pass without reaching out to you as you did to me.

Hijo
Obama 12&16

Re: Re:WAY TO DEPRESSING.... | Report to Admin

By Mick >>"You may say I am dreamer, but I am not the only one!" Nov 20th 2008 at 6:47 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 6:47 pm EST)

His supporters are well and watching.
You right about depressing side effect of the public forum (even enemies can talk).

Hillary's radical feministic supporters are commiong here every day lobying for her and calling Obama-woman,mama,girl,chick... "idiots"

We in Obama Nation have far more better woman then Hillary is; Sebelius, Napolitano, McCaskill, Klobuchar list goes on and on.

Hillary is divisive joke. You talk Hillary - you talk drama.

Obama NO drama - is what we believe in.

Hillary should stay home and bake coockie's even we all know they will never be as good as our Aunt Becky coockie's :)

Aunt Becky's are the best coockies in the world :)

Mick
Link

Re: Re:WAY TO DEPRESSING.... | Report to Admin

By Carol-STL-MO Nov 20th 2008 at 8:59 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 8:59 pm EST)

Cilla,

Agree ...Thanks for posting your comment.

Hopefully folks WILL realize that all the negativity, name calling & petty BS will accomplish nothing & quite frankly is disgraceful

Re: SoS | Report to Admin

By Nacola Nov 20th 2008 at 4:39 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:39 pm EST)

where is Susan Rice. I have not seen her in forever. Did she get kicked off the bus??

Re: SoS | Report to Admin

By meta Nov 20th 2008 at 4:47 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:47 pm EST)

She is on his National Security Transition Team.

Re: SoS--maybe he already had these discussions, and that's why we're not hearing much about them. | Report to Admin

By Lucy Hussein Nov 21st 2008 at 12:33 am EST (Updated Nov 21st 2008 at 12:33 am EST)

Excellent points about Bill's work, Monroe. You are so right--that with the negative that is not guaranteed to go away, he is also doing a lot of positive work that would be a loss if he 'stepped down.'

I also agree that Hagel would be an excellent choice. That would be a true appointment toward change. When was the last time that a president appointed a cabinet member from the other party? Actually, you guys' rational points actually make me quit worrying about this. We've seen what Obama values and how he works, and I must say that with that in mind, it just makes a lot more sense that he would appoint someone he implicitly trusts and has worked with for a good while--such as one of his advisors like Susan Rice, or a fellow Senator like Hagel.

All this brings me to a new thought: I'm sure he has had these discussions with all of them--Hagel went on his 'foreign policy tour,' Rice worked on the campaign, and Richardson campaigned for him enthusiastically. Thus, that is probably why we haven't heard much about discussions with them--he's probably already had them. We're hearing most about discussions w/ HRC because he is not close to her relationally and thus, needs more personal vetting. (Assuming, that is, that the leaks have not being coming from her camp.)

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By Jade--Who Loves to Decorate Her Latte Cup With Flag Pins! Nov 20th 2008 at 3:42 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 3:42 pm EST)

No anti-Obama highjack threads are necessary. Spread that trash elsewhere.

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By Donna No Shock Barack No Drama Obama of MD Nov 20th 2008 at 3:45 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 3:45 pm EST)

Jade,
Anytime they think there is the slightest bit of division between us they jump in. They are so predictable.

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By Jade--Who Loves to Decorate Her Latte Cup With Flag Pins! Nov 20th 2008 at 3:51 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 3:51 pm EST)

You got it, Donna. Keep an eye out and don't engage.

Re: okay I can't keep quiet any longer on this | Report to Admin

By Strong Heart Nov 20th 2008 at 4:01 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:01 pm EST)

The Communists joined you now you getting somewhere!!!

Re: two trolls walk into a bar | Report to Admin

By Stanley H. Krute Nov 20th 2008 at 4:15 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:15 pm EST)

Silly troll.

We are immune to your tactics.

Talkin' 'bout masturbatory behaviors ....

G'wan now. Git. Git on home. Bad dawg. Go home.

Re: two trolls walk into a bar | Report to Admin

By Donna No Shock Barack No Drama Obama of MD Nov 20th 2008 at 4:37 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:37 pm EST)

Stan, that is the funniest thing I have heard all day. Thank you I needed that!

Re: two trolls walk into a bar | Report to Admin

By Mick >>"You may say I am dreamer, but I am not the only one!" Nov 20th 2008 at 7:46 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 7:46 pm EST)

ROFLMAO

DITTO X 100000000000 Stan

LOL

OMG this was good one HA HA, like Johnny Depp trying to scare that rock crab in "Pirates of Caribean" with simple: "Shoo"

LOL

Mick
Link

Re: Department of Homeland Security | Report to Admin

By Strong Heart Nov 20th 2008 at 3:52 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 3:52 pm EST)

Yea, that's why I'm paid nothing...

Re: Department of Homeland Security | Report to Admin

By Strong Heart Nov 20th 2008 at 3:57 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 3:57 pm EST)

I heard Trotsky is still alive in Mexico why don't you go hunt him down...

Re: Department of Homeland Security | Report to Admin

By Strong Heart Nov 20th 2008 at 4:02 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:02 pm EST)

Martian Green Pea Soup makes more sense than your theories...

DOW falling | Report to Admin

By Jade--Who Loves to Decorate Her Latte Cup With Flag Pins! Nov 20th 2008 at 3:49 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 3:49 pm EST)

The DOW was down in the 90pt range at the end of the Dem. press conference about the auto industry.
It's now down 377pts. Coincidence?

Re: DOW falling | Report to Admin

By Archaeology Jim Hussein Nov 20th 2008 at 3:58 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 3:58 pm EST)

Of course it is not a coincidence. Why would it be? Congress is stalling on the $25 billion auto manufacturer bail out and investors are getting all wackey.

I believe that this economic pain is absolutely essential so that we can shake out the fat and get down to our fighting weight. We can only rebuild an economy once the fat is gone, and boy is it going fast. The auto industry sued (and won) against every single that would require a higher MPG rating. Now, they want $25 billion to continue with their failed business model! I say bullshit and so should all of us!

The market is adjusting the way it always does. It is completely irrational the way investors are acting lately. There is no rationale to a 900 point drop in two days. Fear is everywhere, and it will stabilize sooner or later.

IMHO

Re: DOW falling | Report to Admin

By Jeff in "Mayretta", GA -- Middle aged, yet a first time voter because of Barack Obama Nov 20th 2008 at 4:32 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:32 pm EST)

Link – I think blog sums up your sentiment as well.

Re: DOW falling | Report to Admin

By Suzie McKay Nov 20th 2008 at 4:36 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:36 pm EST)

Archaeology Jim,

Please check your O-mail.

Re: DOW falling | Report to Admin

By Archaeology Jim Hussein Nov 20th 2008 at 4:44 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:44 pm EST)

I don't know how to check O-Mail. Help!

Re: DOW falling | Report to Admin

By Hélène, with an H... like in Barack ! Nov 20th 2008 at 5:04 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:04 pm EST)

Jim, to make archeology searches for o-mails, go to your dasboard (your profile), and you'll see just above the pics of your O-Friends a small line with "you have 1 new message". Click on this line, and the list of the messages will appear, the most recent at the top.

Then click on the title of the the message (not on the name of the sender), and go below, it will be open there.

Just try, it's very easy.

Of course, if you have been a long time without making archeology searches, you may have more than one message ! Digg well !

Re: DOW falling | Report to Admin

By Suzie McKay Nov 20th 2008 at 5:21 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:21 pm EST)

Go to your Dashboard. Scroll down to approx. middle of right column. It will tell you that you have messages. Gosh, now I can't remember - try clicking on the message to get your mail and then highlight the mail and you can read it below, just like Outlook.

A democrat wins | Report to Admin

By shawnmarie Nov 20th 2008 at 3:58 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 3:58 pm EST)

the White House and the republicans are saying the Big 3 is all about the UAW. Guess they need to scapegoat someone, but when Reagan got all the blue collar, the infamous Reagan dems, they were from the unions mostly. Now Obama has gained back those voters and the republicans cry foul about unions again, of course! I have been critical of the Big 3 long before now, but just letting the American Auto industry fail and disappear is not even optional in my mind. I've seen how hard my state of Michigan, and other Midwest states have been hit.
If we can bail out wall street, we can help out main street imho, and I know President elect Obama will also stay committed to energy independence, while finally showing support for FAIR trade, which we have not had under President Bush.

NO to a Clinton in the Cabinet | Report to Admin

By Noam from Seattle, WA Nov 20th 2008 at 4:00 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:00 pm EST)

NO Hillary Clinton in the Cabinet.

This is lunacy. We didn't do all of this to have the Clintons back in charge.

Jon Stewart said it best- the biggest difference between Hillary and Barack are on foreign policy. Don't put her in charge of that!

NO Clintons in the Cabinet!

Noam

Re: NO to a Clinton in the Cabinet | Report to Admin

By Stanley H. Krute Nov 20th 2008 at 4:11 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:11 pm EST)

I was not a Hillary supporter in the primaries. I did not like the tactics she used, although when pressed I'll admit that she toughened up Barack in a way that helped him beat McPalin.

As SOS, Hillary will be implementing Barack's policies.

In the Middle East, she will be able to work out an Israeli/Palestinian deal. She's got the contacts and the history and the knowledge.

Solve the Israeli/Palestinian problem, and a lot of other balls fall into their slots.

-- stan

Re: NO to a Clinton in the Cabinet | Report to Admin

By Mick >>"You may say I am dreamer, but I am not the only one!" Nov 20th 2008 at 7:56 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 7:56 pm EST)

Stan Hillary is divisive, radical feminist extremist and totallly abusive person. She is even abusing the fact that she is a woman just in order to get in power. She never was real lady, she werre lady by function and accident of marriage not lady by nature as we use to know as society to accept. Look at her fanatical and supporters and at Sarah Palin supporters - no difference; who oves them - loves them fanatically, who hates them - hates them fanatically. End of the day: They are divisive and dangerous to all americans, supporters or non supporters, doesn't matter as long they are in spot.

Let's get serious.

Mick
Link

Re: NO to a Clinton in the Cabinet | Report to Admin

By Mick >>"You may say I am dreamer, but I am not the only one!" Nov 20th 2008 at 7:57 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 7:57 pm EST)

Stan Hillary is divisive, radical feminist extremist and totallly abusive person. She is even abusing the fact that she is a woman just in order to get in power. She never was real lady, she werre lady by function and accident of marriage not lady by nature as we use to know as society to accept. Look at her fanatical and supporters and at Sarah Palin supporters - no difference; who loves them - loves them fanatically, who hates them - hates them fanatically. End of the day: They are divisive and dangerous to all americans, supporters or non supporters, doesn't matter as long they are in spot.

Let's get serious.

Mick
Link

Re: NO to a Clinton in the Cabinet | Report to Admin

By Dinora Nov 20th 2008 at 5:29 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:29 pm EST)

who like gummy bears mmmmmm just delicious just chew and walaaaaaaa your life gets sweet again let the sour flavor go away lol

Re: SoS | Report to Admin

By Strong Heart Nov 20th 2008 at 4:09 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:09 pm EST)

Are you a Stalinist???

Re: Department of Homeland Security | Report to Admin

By Strong Heart Nov 20th 2008 at 4:11 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:11 pm EST)

Cloning!!!

Okay spoiled children... | Report to Admin

By Archaeology Jim Hussein Nov 20th 2008 at 4:07 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:07 pm EST)

...listen up.

Stop crying, moanin', pissin', and being so negative.

Positive, positive, positive! This is what got us this far.

The only thing that matters is our energy policy. And Obama is firmly 100% behind renewable energy.

The rest is very small potatoes trust me.

Please ignore the fear mongers, the dark trolls, and the scardy cats on here.

Jeeze, remind me not to get stuck on any sinking boat with some of you. You would all have heart attacks and fall overboard long before the first wave ever lapped over the bow!

Now, calm yourself please...and repeat after me.

OOOOHHHHHHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM MMMMMMMMMMM...

OOOOHHHHHHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM MMMMMMMMMMM...

OOOOHHHHHHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM MMMMMMMMMMM...

Now, ain't that better?!

In Obama We Trust! (Remember?)

Re: Okay spoiled children... | Report to Admin

By Tracy in CT Nov 20th 2008 at 4:11 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:11 pm EST)

I've been out all day but judging from your post I take it some are still freaking out over Secretary of State???

Re: Okay spoiled children... | Report to Admin

By Donna No Shock Barack No Drama Obama of MD Nov 20th 2008 at 4:17 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:17 pm EST)

Girl, Its a Mess! Cilla is leaving the blog over this SOS crap and the you know who is still on the loose.

Re: Okay spoiled children... | Report to Admin

By Tracy in CT Nov 20th 2008 at 4:25 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:25 pm EST)

Yikes!

I hope Cilla will just take a breather and come back.

It is so sad that the election was just over 2 weeks ago and this is how people are acting. So sad to see solid supporters like Cilla leaving.

WTH is wrong with people???

Re: Okay spoiled children... | Report to Admin

By Tammy Nov 20th 2008 at 4:43 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:43 pm EST)

I'm very upset about the SOS appointment, but I'm not disconnecting or leaving the blog, or not supporting our president.

President Obama has made a huge mistake tapping Clinton. Look at how messy this whole thing has gotten. Didn't Obama understand that Clinton would take him down this high drama road?

There were no leaks until he tapped Clinton and now things are almost out of control.

If Clinton is carrying on like this and she hasn't been formally offered the job, what's going to happen when she's SOS? Does Obama actually believe she's going to listen to anything he has to say? Please!

Things were going along fine until Obama re-opened this can of worms. The Clintons now believe they have Obama over a barrel. That's never a good position to be in when you're dealing with the Clintons.

I'm disgusted so I understand where Cilla's coming from. We've been at this since DAY ONE. It's disheartening because we thought we were rid of the Clinton drama. What was the purpose in voting for Obama if we were going to get stuck with Clinton? He can't control her. She's sneaky, and underhanded and conniving. Obama will not be able to control Hillary Clinton.

Picking her is a BIG mistake.

Re: Okay spoiled children... | Report to Admin

By Donna No Shock Barack No Drama Obama of MD Nov 20th 2008 at 4:55 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:55 pm EST)

Please don't compare your reasoning with Cilla's. She is not upset because of the potential of Clinton being SOS. Its the dissension on this blog that has her upset. Cilla trusts our President Elects judgement.

Re: Okay spoiled children... | Report to Admin

By Suzie McKay Nov 20th 2008 at 4:12 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:12 pm EST)

"Jeeze, remind me not to get stuck on any sinking boat with some of you. You would all have heart attacks and fall overboard long before the first wave ever lapped over the bow!"

Get rid of the dead weight and the boat may stop sinking - problem solved.

Re: Okay spoiled children... | Report to Admin

By Debbie UK Nov 20th 2008 at 4:14 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:14 pm EST)

But what would we do without the drama...(-:

Re: Okay spoiled children... | Report to Admin

By Suzie McKay Nov 20th 2008 at 4:18 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:18 pm EST)

Well, it does keep us on our toes...

Re: Okay spoiled children... | Report to Admin

By Stanley H. Krute Nov 20th 2008 at 4:18 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:18 pm EST)

Thanks Jim for stating what should be obvious.

Positive thoughts and actions won this election. They're what we'll need, in spades, for the 8 yrs. of Change.

Toughen up, Change Troopers. The best is yet to come to those whose eyes stay on the prize.

Re: okay I can't keep quiet any longer on this | Report to Admin

By Arlene in Maine Nov 20th 2008 at 4:27 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:27 pm EST)

Hey...here's an idea! Why don't Wade and Strong Heart exchange email addresses...and take this quibbling "outside"?!

Re: okay I can't keep quiet any longer on this | Report to Admin

By Stanley H. Krute Nov 20th 2008 at 5:16 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:16 pm EST)

R.I.D.

Reported.

Go 'way, trollboy. G'wan now, git. Go home. Bad little dogey.

?????? | Report to Admin

By Donna No Shock Barack No Drama Obama of MD Nov 20th 2008 at 4:09 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:09 pm EST)

Do you all see a pattern here?

If so, please don't give into it.

Thank you

Re: Department of Homeland Security | Report to Admin

By Strong Heart Nov 20th 2008 at 4:16 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:16 pm EST)

Dictator of the Proletarian are you???

2.5 million job losses next year........ | Report to Admin

By Nov. 5th 2008 "Mission Accomplished," Ben from Monroe, NY HAPPY ELECTION DAY!!!! Nov 20th 2008 at 4:10 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:10 pm EST)

2.5 million job losses next year........

...With all sides sensing doom for a Big Three automaker rescue, the finger-pointing proceeded.

White House press secretary Dana Perino on Thursday blamed Reid for not allowing the Republicans' separate auto-aid plan to come up for a vote.

"Unfortunately it looks like Sen. Reid just wants to pick up his ball and go home for the next two weeks — two months — for vacation," she said.

..."I can't imagine a scenario where they wouldn't come back, unless the answer is that they just don't care. And if that's the case, then the American people ought to know that."

Congressional Democrats countered that the Treasury Department already had the power to grant emergency funds to the automakers, but the Bush administration opposed the approach.

The leaders of the Big Three automakers painted grim picture of their financial position during two days of congressional hearings, warning that the collapse of the auto industry could lead to the loss of 3 million jobs. Detroit's automakers, hurt by a sharp drop in sales and a nearly frozen credit market, burned through nearly $18 billion in cash reserves during the last quarter — about $7 billion at GM, almost $8 billion at Ford and $3 billion at Chrysler. GM and Chrysler said they could collapse in weeks.

"I don't believe we have the luxury of a lot of time," GM CEO Rick Wagoner told a House hearing.

..."If there's a Chapter 11 (for) one of the companies, it will drag at least one other with them, if not all of them.

And I do not believe Chapter 11 is where it will end.

It will go to liquidation," Gettelfinger said.

Automakers ran into more resistance from House lawmakers, who chastised the executives for fighting tougher fuel-efficiency standards in the past and questioned their use of private jets while at the same time seeking government handouts.

"My fear is that you're going to take this money and continue the same stupid decisions you've made for 25 years," said Rep. Michael Capuano, D-Mass.

The stakes are high. The Detroit automakers employ nearly a quarter-million workers, and more than 730,000 other workers produce materials and parts that go into cars.

About 1 million more people work in dealerships nationwide. If just one of the automakers declared bankruptcy,

some estimates put U.S. job losses next year as high as 2.5 million.

Link

Re: Department of Homeland Security | Report to Admin

By Strong Heart Nov 20th 2008 at 4:17 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:17 pm EST)

I'll try...

Re: SoS | Report to Admin

By Strong Heart Nov 20th 2008 at 4:23 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:23 pm EST)

proletarian socialist (Communist)...

Re: SoS | Report to Admin

By Lace; Yes We Did Nov 20th 2008 at 4:25 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:25 pm EST)

Looks like somebody better run for office, because I can guarantee you that most politicians don't carry such radical views.

Whenever there's a problem
~there's people who don't care
~there's people who WHINE and COMPLAIN
and
~there's people who DO SOMETHING ABOUT the SITUATION!

RealityChex.com | Report to Admin

By Marie from Fort Myers, FL Nov 20th 2008 at 4:18 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:18 pm EST)

What a fabulous video! I was really hoping for a good one with the boss, but the others I've seen have been of so-so quality. This is great!

For the best place to check out the news -- fast -- go to RealityChex.com at the Link -- we try to be sorta even-handed, but as you'll see, we're very PRObama at Reality Chex.

Re: ************************* | Report to Admin

By Jeff in "Mayretta", GA -- Middle aged, yet a first time voter because of Barack Obama Nov 20th 2008 at 4:29 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:29 pm EST)

I think by they, they mean them.

how long oh lord ,,,,,Yes we can | Report to Admin

By RJ show me state Nov 20th 2008 at 4:19 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:19 pm EST)

how much suffering must americans go through. before bushes distructive policys bottom out. Please president Obama do not delay on creating Jobs. how will we feel any kind of relief or peace. when our nation turns into a third world country. how many yrs. will we suffer because of bush and his cronnies actions. please lord help President barack Obama bring Jobs to america as fast as possible. amen

Re: how long oh lord ,,,,,Yes we can | Report to Admin

By Archaeology Jim Hussein Nov 20th 2008 at 4:36 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:36 pm EST)

RJ,

How much suffering you ask?

Recall that half of the worlds population lives off of just two cups of rice a day and very little more...

America has been simply too fat for too long. We used our wealth to create war, to buy SUVs, to burn holes in the ozone layer, and to burn fossil fuels at a truly staggering rate. We used it to buy starbucks, plasma TVs, disposible cell phones, new cars we don't need, and other useless and absolutely abnoxious stuff. We took what little equity we had in our homes and bought big cars, we charged money on our credit cards.

What pisses me off is that I never did any of this stuff. I do not have a credit card, no second mortgage on my home, I drive a used 1995 Honda Accord with 240,000 miles on it (still gets 33 mpg highway), and buy new clothes very rarely. I have never once in the past 15 years paid anything late.

Re: how long oh lord ,,,,,Yes we can | Report to Admin

By AZgrammy-'O'-wing Nov 20th 2008 at 5:01 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:01 pm EST)

Good job James!
I know you're not very old, but you are very wise!

Amazes me how the movie theaters get millions of $$ every weekend, with a new block-buster which becomes the latest "biggest money maker ever" for their weekend opening.
Who are all these people?

Michelle picks her chief of staff | Report to Admin

By Donna No Shock Barack No Drama Obama of MD Nov 20th 2008 at 4:20 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:20 pm EST)

I really like the people in Iowa and apparently Michelle O does to.Link

Re: Michelle picks her chief of staff | Report to Admin

By Tracy in CT Nov 20th 2008 at 4:26 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:26 pm EST)

Cool!

Re: Michelle picks her chief of staff | Report to Admin

By Nanci A patriotic dissident Nov 20th 2008 at 4:44 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:44 pm EST)

Thanks for this link. I was wondering who she'd choose as her chief of staff. Jackie looks like an excellent choice! Wow!

Re: two trolls walk into a bar | Report to Admin

By Soma Nov 20th 2008 at 4:29 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:29 pm EST)

Wade the Troll - I remember you from before.......

Hopes fade!!! Stocks tumble to 5-year lows | Report to Admin

By Nov. 5th 2008 "Mission Accomplished," Ben from Monroe, NY HAPPY ELECTION DAY!!!! Nov 20th 2008 at 4:24 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:24 pm EST)

Hopes fade!!! Stocks tumble to 5-year lows

NEW YORK – Stocks have plunged again to levels not seen in more than five years as hopes fade that lawmakers will soon put together an aid package for U.S. automakers.

Huge declines in the financial and energy sectors led stocks lower Thursday. The pullback for the second straight day amid heavy volume sent the Standard & Poor's 500 index down 6.7 percent to the 752 level, below the closing low of 776.76 logged on Oct. 9, 2002.

The Dow Jones industrial average, meanwhile, has fallen about 445 points, or 5.6 percent.

Link

Re: SoS | Report to Admin

By Strong Heart Nov 20th 2008 at 4:46 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:46 pm EST)

I'm sorry I just wanted to know who your Fearless Leader was...

Re: SoS | Report to Admin

By Strong Heart Nov 20th 2008 at 4:32 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:32 pm EST)

Your a Leninist???

Re: SoS | Report to Admin

By Czarina rhiannon hussein aka le chat Nov 20th 2008 at 4:34 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:34 pm EST)

Why can't you talk and disagree with folks without using nasty, vulgar language? You are obviously not a stupid person, but using vulgar language often suggests that this is the case.

Re: Department of Homeland Security | Report to Admin

By Strong Heart Nov 20th 2008 at 4:39 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:39 pm EST)

They ate the Martian Green Pea Soup that's how the got the super powers...

Re: Department of Homeland Security | Report to Admin

By Strong Heart Nov 20th 2008 at 4:43 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:43 pm EST)

Sorry, they...

The Dow... Yikes! | Report to Admin

By Tracy in CT Nov 20th 2008 at 4:30 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:30 pm EST)

I am glad I am not near retirement or close to sending kids to college. Just terrible....

We have a tough road ahead of us folks. Time to stop b*tching and moaning and time to get to work.

Re: The Dow... Yikes! | Report to Admin

By Czarina rhiannon hussein aka le chat Nov 20th 2008 at 4:36 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:36 pm EST)

My husband and I are near retirement (both professors, definitely not wealthy) and we have just watched our retirement plans and a huge hunk of our retirement monies disappear. It's a good thing we are healthy (so far as we know) and love teaching. (And that our minds still work well enough! :)

Re: The Dow... Yikes! | Report to Admin

By Tracy in CT Nov 20th 2008 at 4:46 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:46 pm EST)

I really think about people near retirement a lot Debi. I know there are so many out there who must be putting off retirement by at least 5 years right now after watching their 401 (K) accounts go down drastically.

My parents are both fairly new retirees and I am just so grateful that they have both always been very conservative with their investments.

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By Czarina rhiannon hussein aka le chat Nov 20th 2008 at 4:58 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:58 pm EST)

Good for your parents! We have some friends who retired last year and now are worried. We fortunately live fairly simply (drive old cars, spend most of our misc. money on books) and we hope we'll be able to regain much of what we've lost over time. Compared to most people in the world, we're doing great.

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By Tracy in CT Nov 20th 2008 at 5:20 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:20 pm EST)

: )

Your positive attitude helps all of us.

: )

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By Suzie McKay Nov 20th 2008 at 4:41 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:41 pm EST)

It's tough now but my DH and I are going to D.C. if we have to eat soup until June!

Once in a while, and if you're very lucky, you get the chance to feel your life is not one of quiet desperation, We worked too hard on the campaign not to experience the beginning of hope for ALL disabled people.

Thank you, PE Obama, for promising to fund stem cell research. It will help all Americans, even other citizens of the planet and we can't thank you enough.

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By Czarina rhiannon hussein aka le chat Nov 20th 2008 at 4:46 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:46 pm EST)

Barack is going to be a great president! It's wonderful to know we will have a president who actually is intellectually curious, who reads, and studies, and thinks, and makes decisions with all of us in mind.

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By Archaeology Jim Hussein Nov 20th 2008 at 4:43 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:43 pm EST)

Tracy,

What do you suggest we do on a day to day basis? If we conserve our dollars the economy falls more.

Obama is 100% behind renewable energy policy for America and will require the auto industry to re-tool to build more effecient automobiles in order to get a bailout. Obama is on board with this and that is a very good thing.

Our economy is a consumer-driven economy. It works like this: Americans get in their big cars and drive to the big malls to buy big bags of big stuff to put in their big houses, and it all goes on their big fat visa credit card bill.

The house of cards effect. We all saw this coming but kept on spending and spending and spending. Humans are weird.

I hope all of you out there have 12 months of savings to pay for things like rent, mortgage, groceries for a while. I hope we all know how to adjust because we will have to.

I hate to be all doom and gloom. But the bright side is this: A new American economy based on renewable and green-energy will bring us out of this slump. And that is all this is.

Barack Obama can't fix this...nobody can alone. It will require staying positive and not giving in to fear. It will require a re-tooling of each and every one of us.

In Obama We Trust!

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By Tracy in CT Nov 20th 2008 at 5:01 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:01 pm EST)

I understand that conserving dollars causes the economy to fall more but with all that has been happening my family certainly has been tightening their belts. We have been keeping more in savings in preparation for an uncertain future. We are doing a grab bag for Christmas (for the adults) instead of buying for everyone and we won't be taking our family vacation this winter.

I suspect the economy will fall further as I am sure mine is not the only family changing their spending habits.

I don't know all the answers. I am trying to educate myself some more. I know I will do what I can and what is asked of me by this administration. I will continue to help in my community and offer a helping hand to those who are suffering from this mess of an economy.

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By Archaeology Jim Hussein Nov 20th 2008 at 5:23 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:23 pm EST)

Tracy,

I was just wondering your thoughts that's all. Thank you. Nobody has all the answers of course.

My wife and I plus our baby boy (and maybe another?) will be fine. We are resourceful people and actually hate to spend money. We go to Old Navy to buy clothes, and 9x out of 10 walk out empty-handed and frustrated. Then, I drive to the thrift store and buy some nice used cotton dockers for $4 and a few nice shirts for $3 a piece. There is so much fat on the land living cheaply in America is easy.

We have enough savings to live for about 24 months before being on the streets. Of course, we will make money in the next while still but it will slow down.

I am self-employed, which should be an event on "Fear Factor" during this economic climate.

I feel like the guy at a poker table and keep telling myself to just sit tight and not show any emotion. The rest of the players will eventually get nervous, lose their cool and bow out. As long as I stay calm (while self-employed) I will be fine...

I like to tell myself this anyway.

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By Tracy in CT Nov 20th 2008 at 5:39 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:39 pm EST)

I have to admit that I was never a thrifty person Jim. The funny thing is that it is the Obama campaign that made me realize that. A little over a year ago when I started getting involved in the campaign and then donating I found myself becoming more and more thrifty so that I could donate more to the campaign.

So I guess in the end this campaign opened my eyes to some of my own personal waste and made a more conscience consumer out of me.

: )

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By Kimberly Helen Hussein Nov 20th 2008 at 4:51 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:51 pm EST)

Yeah, it's rough.

Interesting enough- my parents are approaching retirement (actually my father is retired) and my brother & I are currently scoping out colleges........OH BOY!

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By Archaeology Jim Hussein Nov 20th 2008 at 4:58 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:58 pm EST)

Go to a community college for two years and get the basic courses out of the way there. Then, transfer to a 4-year state university and apply for grants and loans. Get a part-time job while you are there, a roomate to split rent, and you will be fine.

Trust me on this one.

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By Tracy in CT Nov 20th 2008 at 5:04 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:04 pm EST)

That is the way I did it years ago. You save money by spending the first 2 years at a community college but in the end you have a degree from a 4 year University.

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By Kimberly Helen Hussein Nov 20th 2008 at 5:07 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:07 pm EST)

Thanks for the advice.

It's likely that I'm going to go to a four year college (my bro might opt for a community college though).

I plan to commute.

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By Archaeology Jim Hussein Nov 20th 2008 at 5:15 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:15 pm EST)

Why a four-year college? Are you on a scholarship? Please don't tell me you are going to pay for your first two years at a four-year college with student loans or your retired parent's retirement savings...

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By Kimberly Helen Hussein Nov 20th 2008 at 5:34 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:34 pm EST)

My parents don't really have retirement savings.....

My father is retired, but he gets disability checks- he was basically forced into retirement.

My mother is 58, but still works.

I was recently accepted into a four college, but I'm weighing all options (taking it day by day). BUT like I said before it's unlikely that I will go to a community college.

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By AZgrammy-'O'-wing Nov 20th 2008 at 5:18 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:18 pm EST)

Would some of you here who are near or already retired join me in reminding the Obama team that during the campaign, both Sen.'s Obama and McCain vowed to SUSPEND the annual IRS Mandatory Automatic Withdrawals of IRA funds, for those of us over the age of 70.5?

My little IRA (which was in a "safe" Chase Bank Money market fund)has gone down now from approx $16,000 to around $11,500, still falling fast!

If we older folks can be allowed to defer our IRS MANDATED IRA withdrawals for about 5 years, they MAY recover?
No guarantee of course.

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By Czarina rhiannon hussein aka le chat Nov 20th 2008 at 5:40 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:40 pm EST)

Yes. And thanks for reminding us of this. :)

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By AZgrammy-'O'-wing Nov 20th 2008 at 5:50 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:50 pm EST)

Thank YOU for responding....
I've sent a message to the Transition Team twice now, but it would be helpful if others did also...
Strength in numbers!

Change.gov
Seniors and Social Security link:
Link

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By Czarina rhiannon hussein aka le chat Nov 20th 2008 at 7:15 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 7:15 pm EST)

I did.

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By Stanley H. Krute Nov 20th 2008 at 5:17 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:17 pm EST)

Looking forward to the Wade Party.

ROFLMAO

Signing off for awhile with one last comment | Report to Admin

By Lace; Yes We Did Nov 20th 2008 at 4:36 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:36 pm EST)

For every situation
(in this case, Barack's cabinet being the issue)

~there are people who don't care

~there are people who whine and complain
Link
and
~there are people who try to do something about the situation
Link

so, let me ask, which are you?

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By Tracy in CT Nov 20th 2008 at 4:41 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:41 pm EST)

Hope you are not leaving forever Lace. I don't want to be left here with all the complainers!

:(

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By Dinora Nov 20th 2008 at 4:46 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:46 pm EST)

Lace don't leave us please just ignore or they will take over the blog we have work so hard we can let them win lets promote how we can get involved and help others in need.

lol Tracy I'm not a complainer and not planing to leave I refuse to let this people take over.

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By Tracy in CT Nov 20th 2008 at 5:02 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:02 pm EST)

Oh thank goodness you will still be here Dinora!!!!

: )

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By meta Nov 20th 2008 at 5:11 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:11 pm EST)

Here to stay!

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By Tracy in CT Nov 20th 2008 at 5:22 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:22 pm EST)

Phew!!!!

XOXO

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By Standing Firm for President Obama Nov 20th 2008 at 4:53 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:53 pm EST)

Noooooo! Don't gooooooo! I haven't commented here lately, but I'm still Standing Firm by my President-Elect and I'm completely supportive of the decisions he makes.

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By Czarina JB in Arizona Nov 20th 2008 at 5:01 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:01 pm EST)

Lace,

Please hang in there with us. I know it is frustrating but we have weathered all the trash-talkers through the primaries and the general election. We can do this. We need to ignore those without profiles as we have done before and get HQ on this to delete the comments. This site is staying up for people like us. We have had some great times here. Remember when your computer blew up? and when we tried to help Josie?

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By Lace; Yes We Did Nov 20th 2008 at 5:08 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:08 pm EST)

whoaaa folks, relax. "awhile" for me is just a few hours LOL!! I'll probably be back later tonight if anything interesting happens to come up around here.

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By Standing Firm for President Obama Nov 20th 2008 at 5:15 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:15 pm EST)

Good to know! I had to leave for 'awhile' during FISA and again right after McCain chose Palin. It took me about a week to recover each time!

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By Nanci A patriotic dissident Nov 20th 2008 at 5:22 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:22 pm EST)

:-) RFLMAO!!! I think people are so touchy right now and some are threatening to leave the blog for a few days. They just assumed you were too!

I can't imagine you ever leaving here Lace no matter how touchy things get. But thanks for reassuring me. I was getting worried that you bailing too!

Some days and some threads are more interesting than others, and some posts are pissier than others but I can't imagine leaving.

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By Tracy in CT Nov 20th 2008 at 5:23 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:23 pm EST)

lol.... good to know Lace. I thought a bunch of people were jumping the blog ship for good.

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By Dinora Nov 20th 2008 at 5:26 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:26 pm EST)

ja ja ja see Lace we love you and don't wants to leave us good to know its only for a couple of hours

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By Mary Bailey Nov 20th 2008 at 5:46 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:46 pm EST)

LACE
THIS TROLLL JB OF FL. REALLY GOT MY GO LAST NIGHT BE THIS IS HIS WAY OF LIVING NOW AND IF WE LET HIM THEN HE WON .... WE ALL OF US DID AWAY WE MCCAIN AND MCPALIN BULL..... WE ARE STRONGER THAN THAT PLEASE PLEASE STAY
IM IN TO THE VERY END MARY THE CARPENTER

Is anyone planing to do something for someone else on this hard times | Report to Admin

By Dinora Nov 20th 2008 at 4:40 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:40 pm EST)

I defenitely would like to get with my group and plan something like collect food for the homeless or go to shelters home for abuse childrens.

My group is going to get together Sat. to GA to help Jim M. so I'll take the opportunity to se if we can get together and do something.

If anyone here is lives close to Los Angeles area and would like to plan something let me know we have worked to do and what a better way to make our community a better place.

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By Standing Firm for President Obama Nov 20th 2008 at 5:00 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:00 pm EST)

A group of us are getting together every Thursday evening to do a community service event. We want to stay involved so we're ready to go when campaign time rolls around again.

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By Judy from Fort Lauderdale, FL Nov 20th 2008 at 5:05 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:05 pm EST)

Have you guys ever considered when this crisis started and what started the melt down? Obviously you haven't. Check out how the economy was doing before the Congress went Democratic majority.
Blame everything on Bush. Who writes the bills that are presented to the President? I know but do you guys know. I t is the Congress and Senate. So you might want to take a look at who has been screwing things up and think about what we face the next 4 years.You guys are all complaining now but just wait. You will have much more to complain about in the next year or so. Call me a troll all day long but mark my words. Because I am not all thrilled with the ONE, you guys can't stand it. Well I will never be thrilled with Obama and his views or his policies. This economy was doing great until 2 years ago and that is when the Democrats took control. That is the way I see it and if you care to learn the truth, google it and see for yourself. Have a good day fighting with each other.

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By Standing Firm for President Obama Nov 20th 2008 at 5:21 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:21 pm EST)

The "crisis" started in the middle-class long before 2 years ago.

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By Judy from Fort Lauderdale, FL Nov 20th 2008 at 5:26 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:26 pm EST)

Standing firm---Oh I see, It started with the middle class? Who l have you been talking to. It started with the bad decisions made by the banks and the housing committees that lent money to people that could not afford mortgages and defaulted on their loans once the interest rates were raised. Until then, they had interest rates that were low and could get by.

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By Standing Firm for President Obama Nov 20th 2008 at 5:34 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:34 pm EST)

My point is that the problem didn't start two years ago, it started long before that and there's plenty of blame to go around. It sounds like you're trying to say the crisis cropped up out of nowhere two years ago when the dems took control of congress. You would be wrong!

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By Tracy in CT Nov 20th 2008 at 5:27 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:27 pm EST)

Yep, they were still partying on Wall Street 2 years ago but Main Street was already suffering.

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By AZgrammy-'O'-wing Nov 20th 2008 at 6:07 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 6:07 pm EST)

Yeah Judy, way before two years ago...

Dems have not been able to get much of anything through yet, for the past two years because they didn't have the needed 60 votes for stopping REPUBLICAN FILIBUSTERS!
Or Bush's veto.
But this coming January they will!
So watch out!

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By Dinora Nov 20th 2008 at 5:22 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:22 pm EST)

who has a good recipe to warm a lonely soul any ideas Yes We Can and Yes We Will continue going we the grassroot rock and we prevail I'm Fired Up and Ready to go :)

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By Archaeology Jim Hussein Nov 20th 2008 at 5:25 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:25 pm EST)

Do you guys hear something?

Never mind, I see what it is...

Yes We Can!

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By Tracy in CT Nov 20th 2008 at 5:25 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:25 pm EST)

LMAO!!!! OK, in your little world the economy was doing well until 2 years ago. Hold onto that thought... I hope it keeps you warm at night.

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By AZgrammy-'O'-wing Nov 20th 2008 at 6:00 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 6:00 pm EST)

Judy please read the posted article on my profile page...
Called
Three Times is Enemy Action
Link

Obama inauguration | Report to Admin

By Susan, Bloomington, IN Nov 20th 2008 at 4:45 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:45 pm EST)

Hey, all!!! I'm just about decompressed from the election! It seems that this time of transition is tough on a lot of people. I was wondering if there was some way we could raise money and give President-elect Obama a special gift from his blog supporters? (and I mean something special that would one day end up in his presidential library!) Does anybody know how we could do this? Would anyone be interested? Does anyone have an idea what we would give?

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By Dinora Nov 20th 2008 at 4:50 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:50 pm EST)

Susan I have no idea how it could be done but if you find out count me in :)

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By Debbie UK Nov 20th 2008 at 4:53 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:53 pm EST)

That's a lovely idea! And I can contribute because it's not campaign related.

erm...not sure what though.

Hows about something that would always remind him that we've got his back. Something lucky, with a message, maybe.

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By AZgrammy-'O'-wing Nov 20th 2008 at 4:54 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:54 pm EST)

A little dog house with a little portable yard-fence so the girls could take out the puppy (or puppies) to the South Lawn on a nice sunny day and play with them out in the sunshine?

Later on it could be in the Presidential Library with two stuffed dogs that look like whatever dog they choose. (Somehow I think they'll end up with two puppies- - just a hunch, I guess!)
AZgrammy dog-lover

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By Please delete my profile... Nov 20th 2008 at 5:24 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:24 pm EST)

The dog house has already been given by ELLEN Degeneras! It is NICE, too. It looks like the Whitehouse!

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By Mick >>"You may say I am dreamer, but I am not the only one!" Nov 20th 2008 at 7:19 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 7:19 pm EST)

Are yoy guys talking about new joe liebermann's house?

Mick
Link

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By Sandra in PA, blogging here since day one and volunteering for BO since he announced his candidacy Feb. 10, '07 Nov 20th 2008 at 4:54 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:54 pm EST)

I been thinking about that too, Susan! Not sure what the monetary constraints are though, the top amount for a personal gift to the POTUS? President-Elect??? If it goes to the Library eventually, no limit? lol Have to do a little research; hopefully others will chime in to. Suffice it to say I'd be thrilled to be a part of...whatever!:) (I do have a "congratulations" card already set to go, regardless!)

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By Susan, Bloomington, IN Nov 20th 2008 at 5:02 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:02 pm EST)

Wow! Looks like there's interest! I'm going to keep posting about this and do a little research on the how to do it, etc. If you send me a message with your names, I'll keep a list and keep everybody informed.

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By Cheryl from Boston Feels the Gift Nov 20th 2008 at 5:18 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:18 pm EST)

Like your idea Susan!

For one thing, he will have the quilt that most of us threw a donation towards, as well Montana's recipe book from many of us.

But it would be nice to have something he can use in the Oval office as a daily reminder before the BO Library...something solid such as a fine clock that has an engraved plaque or a world globe with an engraved plaque or even an engraved "rock" as in Ba-rock!

......anyway, I am in!

Cheryl in Boston

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By Naod from Pontiac, MI Nov 20th 2008 at 5:09 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:09 pm EST)

People have voted Obama over Hillary. The major difference between the two was thie approach to foreign relations. Obama's reasoning was superior. He is now about to appoint her to be in charge of foriegn relations. What a contradiction. Progressives pushed him to the finish line, but he chose to appoint Hawkish (right leaning) cabinets. Change we believe in?? oh no.

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By Standing Firm for President Obama Nov 20th 2008 at 5:19 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:19 pm EST)

Who has he actually appointed yet that's hawkish?

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By Susan, Bloomington, IN Nov 20th 2008 at 5:20 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:20 pm EST)

The change will be the policies that Hillary follows...Baracks. Did you really think that there would not be experienced politicians named to the cabinet? And as the Clinton administration was the only democratic one since Jimmy Carter's, that's where the majority of them are going to come from. It will be in the way our government performs and the policies set forth by the POTUS that will be the change that we can believe in.

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By Debbie UK Nov 20th 2008 at 5:28 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:28 pm EST)

Actually I disagree, foreign policy wasn't the reason BO won over HRC, and don't forget they both received around 18 million votes.

BO stayed true to his message of change, HRC was all over the place but she happily morphed to pick up votes she thought he was struggling with, blue collar, women, hard working - read whites etc etc.

Ring a bell re McCain?

Stewart was off base I reckon.

Fact is HRC will be delivering BO's message. If she does turn out to be SOS and I'm not convinced the BO camp has decided on that yet. I also bet that if they decide against her being in that role, the only people who will be bothered are a few remaining stalwart supporters.

I don't think anyone else really gives a four X.

Having said that, if she does become SOS I think she has the gravitas to carry BO's message. All the rest of the chatter is just the drama that follows the Clinton's around. The MSM love it and the Clintons are connected to enough people that there's always someone with something to say about it.

That's why I don't get wound up about this stuff, it will all come out in the wash and there's no way BO will allow himself to be shifted sideways from his agenda.

My penny's worth.

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By Debbie UK Nov 20th 2008 at 5:08 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:08 pm EST)

OK here's one idea. A booklet with his favourite sports team(s) autographs and a related we got your back sports saying message from each player. With an agreed introduction and last word from the bloggers.

The money we raise could go to a good cause, maybe groups who encourage youff into sports or something, or education, scholarships etc.

Anyways...just an idea.

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By Susan, Bloomington, IN Nov 20th 2008 at 5:16 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:16 pm EST)

Cool! If this gets off the ground, I would keep all suggestions and then put it up for a vote by all donors. I was thinking a (crystal) replica of the Obama emblem with "I'm asking you to believe. Not just in my ability to bring about real change in Washington...I'm asking you to believe in yours." inscribed on the base followed by--'You made us believe. Thank you.'

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By Cheryl from Boston Feels the Gift Nov 20th 2008 at 5:25 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:25 pm EST)

Getting closer...! Good message anyway! Certainly something that he would want in his office as a daily reminder and your idea Susan is a very good one indeed.

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By Debbie UK Nov 20th 2008 at 5:42 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:42 pm EST)

I'll go for that. The presidential library thing threw me into the book idea.

(-:

Something on his desk is a way better idea.

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By Strong Heart Nov 20th 2008 at 4:59 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 4:59 pm EST)

Why is my theory any different form yours their both out there...

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By Stan Z- Christian-President Obama Knows His Stuff Nov 20th 2008 at 5:06 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:06 pm EST)

Wade,

Stop using foul language. Are you trying to get people to listen to you or are you just trying to cause chaos? Being unhappy with the replys you get is no justification for the foulness you are writing.

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By Strong Heart Nov 20th 2008 at 5:12 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:12 pm EST)

Wade, is just mad he believes Bush and the CIA blew up the Trade Center, He's a proletarian socialist (Communist)...

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By Stan Z- Christian-President Obama Knows His Stuff Nov 20th 2008 at 5:29 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:29 pm EST)

Not to cause even more confusion here but there is a book that's called "The Shock Doctrine."

Conspiracies are a daily fact. It's seems more plausible that they might have known that an attack was coming, but simply chose to ignore it so they could use it as a catalyst for regime change in the Middle East.

History has shown us that reality is often stranger than fiction.

But there are all kinds of things to consider before a person goes down the path of proving our own country is as corrupt as it probably is.

WOW | Report to Admin

By meta Nov 20th 2008 at 5:08 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:08 pm EST)

U.S. judge orders five Algerians at Guantanamo freed after nearly 7 years. This includes Boumediene!!

Link

WOW!

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By Cheryl from Boston Feels the Gift Nov 20th 2008 at 5:21 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:21 pm EST)

Indeed!

Wow!

Howard Dean and Barack Obama don't want revenge against Joe Liberman ... | Report to Admin

By rich Nov 20th 2008 at 5:08 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:08 pm EST)

Howard Dean and Barack Obama don't want revenge against Joe Liberman ...

... but some in the liberal blogosphere (oh, you know them, the whiners, complainers, the "my way or the highway" folks, the holier than thou far-left crowd who don't want a big tent, etc.) are now chastising Dean and Obama for not having revenge in their hearts :

Link

By Alex Koppelman

Tuesday, Nov. 18, 2008 18:25 EST

Lieberman decision pits Dean against liberal blogosphere

It's no secret that most of the liberal blogosphere loves Howard Dean and loathes Joe Lieberman. So it's interesting to see how progressive bloggers have responded to the news that Dean supports Senate Democrats' decision to give Lieberman a slap on the wrist for his efforts on behalf of John McCain and other Republicans over the past year.

Responding to the news that Senate Democrats voted 42-13 to allow Lieberman to keep his position as Homeland Security chairman, Dean told Greg Sargent of TPMElection Central that he's "fine" with the outcome, saying that the senators only did what President-elect Barack Obama wanted them to.

Obama "called the shots, and that's fine," Dean said, adding that the vote to support Lieberman came from "the spirit of unification, which is what the President-elect wanted... It's pretty hard to run the country based on, 'We're all working together,' if your first act is to strip someone who was your political enemy...of power."

...

During that conference call, FireDogLake's Jane Hamsher laid into Dean, saying:

With all due respect, Governor Dean, we were all just told to go screw ourselves. That our concern for Barack Obama and that our concern about the war and everything else that we fought so hard for within the Democratic Party is meaningless.

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a little disappointed with the former governor of Vermont, writing, "Howard Dean recite[d] Obama's talking points about Lieberman."

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Re: Howard Dean and Barack Obama don't want revenge against Joe Liberman ... | Report to Admin

By rich Nov 20th 2008 at 5:16 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:16 pm EST)

It's no coincidence that Obama and Dean (entirely different personalities) are alike in so many ways.

Neither of them are so ideoligical driven that the are blinded to the possibilities of "what dreams may come".

This past Mon, Nov 17, was Howard Dean's 60th birthday and today Nov 20 is Joe Biden's.

I'm a proud that they and Barack Obama are working to get a working-coalition together to solve intrasient/ingrained problems solved in America -- problems that have been around for decades.

I'm so excited about the first 100 days of the Obama/Biden administration.

Re: Howard Dean and Barack Obama don't want revenge against Joe Liberman ... | Report to Admin

By Kimberly Helen Hussein Nov 20th 2008 at 5:25 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:25 pm EST)

TNR pointed out that letting Lieberman get off easy also scores points with moderate Republicans like McCain and Lindsey Graham. Health care and energy are going to be really really tough to pass: Obama will need every vote he can get from either side of the aisle. (Along these lines, see also the Waxman vs. Dingell battle in the House.)

Reagan once said that it's amazing what you can accomplish if you don't care who gets the credit. I see a similar pragmatic streak in Obama. He doesn't care how "tough" he looks, he cares whether he can get his agenda passed. If the velvet glove works, great, but the iron fist is there if needed.

He beat the Chicago machine, he beat the Clinton machine, and he beat the Republican machine. Maybe it's time to give him a little credit for political savvy?

The liberal blogosphere has the right to exist, but I think they need to cool it. We won a sweeping victory on Nov 4th and some are fixated on settling old scores......

Re: Howard Dean and Barack Obama don't want revenge against Joe Liberman ... | Report to Admin

By Marbwi Nov 20th 2008 at 6:04 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 6:04 pm EST)

I agree that no president should be 'held hostage' by any group of supporters, but calling them whiners, trolls, holier-than-thou is not helpful. As a self-described pragmatic centrist, Barack Obama did get a lot of grassroots help from a variety of groups. Many of them did do the foot-work/fundraising/phonecal ls.
MOVEON alone has about 3 million members.

Kos(Moulitas) was on MSNBC today. His main complaint was that Chairman Lieberman did not provide the necessary oversight on the Bush admn(especially Katrina).

His treatment of Democrats and Obama during the general election still does not sit well with them.

Others on his site were upset because in 2006, the Democrats voted Lieberman out(lost) in the Connecticut Democratic primary. Running again as an Ind, Lieberman ended up winning the senate seat after the Republican party(which had their weak candidate) urged their party faithful to vote for Lieberman.

This was Rachel Maddow take prechairman vote
Link

others even went this far
Link

Bruce Rocks for Obama! | Report to Admin

By Rachelle so glad Obama is our new President Nov 20th 2008 at 5:11 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:11 pm EST)

The Boss totally Rock!!!!

By the way..

Happy birthday Joe Biden, I thought that was the cutest thing to see President-Elect give him cupcakes.

Re: Bruce Rocks for Obama! | Report to Admin

By Susan, Bloomington, IN Nov 20th 2008 at 5:21 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:21 pm EST)

The Boss, does indeed, totally rock!!! And thanks for reminding me that today is Biden's birthday. Happy Birthday, Joe!!!!

GREAT MUSIC | Report to Admin

By WEBMASTER Nov 20th 2008 at 5:14 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:14 pm EST)

We need news articles on Obamagelicals. see Link

Daschle setting healthcare goals | Report to Admin

By Kimberly Helen Hussein Nov 20th 2008 at 5:17 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:17 pm EST)

Former Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle told CNN Thursday that he is excited about the possibility of heading Health and Human Services in an Obama administration where he would be a point person in helping to reform the nation’s healthcare system.

Link

Re: Department of Homeland Security | Report to Admin

By Strong Heart Nov 20th 2008 at 5:24 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:24 pm EST)

Wade, if you write an article in the New York Times people will believe you...

Re: Department of Homeland Security | Report to Admin

By Strong Heart Nov 20th 2008 at 5:27 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:27 pm EST)

Maybe then people will want you to be Secretary of State...

Re: Department of Homeland Security | Report to Admin

By Stan Z- Christian-President Obama Knows His Stuff Nov 20th 2008 at 6:07 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 6:07 pm EST)

Wade there are thousands of issues to deal with in our country. A person isn't a mor..n because they haven't researched an issue as you have.

Do you pretend to think you are going to get people to listen you by calling them names?

If people find what you say is interesting, but still have hard accepting it; will they then change their minds because you shout louder or use foul language?

Even if I were interested in what you say; I would try to find another person who could discuss it more reasonably.

It reminds me a bit of how Ron Paul supporters would act.

Hillary Clinton | Report to Admin

By KC Woman for Obama Nov 20th 2008 at 5:21 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:21 pm EST)

I heard on MSM that HRC camp leaked the offer of SOS. If this is true OBAMA WE HAVE A PROBLEM!

I say if you can not trust her camp from leaking how can we trust her as SOS?

I say CUT YOUR LOSES! ADMIT YOUR MISTAKE AND DROP HER.

The NO DRAMA OBAMA days are over.

Re: Hillary Clinton | Report to Admin

By Kimberly Helen Hussein Nov 20th 2008 at 5:27 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:27 pm EST)

Chill out and grow a spine.

Re: ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ | Report to Admin

By rich Nov 20th 2008 at 5:28 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:28 pm EST)

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ !

Re: Hillary Clinton | Report to Admin

By Rock on Mr. President!! Nov 20th 2008 at 5:37 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:37 pm EST)

Linda writes: "The NO DRAMA OBAMA days are over"

Correction: They are just beginning.

Time, Time, Time

Re: Hillary Clinton | Report to Admin

By Arlene in Maine Nov 20th 2008 at 5:38 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:38 pm EST)

What OFFER?!?! There has NOT been an OFFER. What is all this b.s. about an OFFER? This is all spin spin spin.

Re: Hillary Clinton | Report to Admin

By Cheryl from Boston Feels the Gift Nov 20th 2008 at 5:39 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:39 pm EST)

Frankly, a couple of weeks ago, I was not keen on hearing that Hill was among the short list for Sec of State. However, I suspect with all the ramifications of her continuing in the Senate where she could cause damage, it is best to keep her close to the chest. Then again, I suspect the offer and Hill's "leak" are also part of "face" to float her out there--here--to hear the rumbles from the public at large. I have a funny feeling Hill just wants to be asked for everything and then will say thanks but no thanks.

There is no conceivable way that Bill will ever be non-controversial with his world-wide business dealings. I told this group time and again about Bill's dealings with Frank Guistra and it is his largest albatross. As well vetting his foundation and dealings with miners for sustainability would be a good hat trick. One would need to truly understand just what gold and diamond miners do to poor countries such as Peru,
Equador, India...etc. Bill's foundation I dare say is a rouse when it comes to "helping" out many of these villages--After the Damage done by the Gold and Diamond miners. I know a bit about this and I tell you it would not be easy vetting Bill with his relationship with these companies. Equador has thrown out most of these companies. Piura, Peru has also thrown them out--for now. Some villages in India haven't been so lucky as the government is bribed by these groups. Bill's foundation should be in front of the damage of these companies not behind them sweeping up...---anyway the Clintons have a lot to answer to in regards to their business dealings and that includes Hill! Whatever Obama figures out I am sure he is well aware of what it all means and nonetheless will remain IN charge.

Vamos a ver!

Re: Hillary Clinton | Report to Admin

By Cheryl from Boston Feels the Gift Nov 20th 2008 at 5:57 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:57 pm EST)

Link

One link about Frank Giustra

Stay up | Report to Admin

By Felicia from Milwaukee, WI Nov 20th 2008 at 5:22 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:22 pm EST)

i'm wondering do yall see how people acting, keep your head up President Obama, get your dog when you feel like it, don't let the media rush you into anything. And for the situation that happened with the people over there, to me it just showed me how real you actually are, don't let them see you sweat, always keep it real with God, yourself, family, and the rest of the world.

Europe for Obama! | Report to Admin

By Anna-Maria Nov 20th 2008 at 5:25 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:25 pm EST)

Hi from Paris!

Re: Europe for Obama! | Report to Admin

By Tracy in CT Nov 20th 2008 at 5:40 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:40 pm EST)

Ahhh.... now there is our ray of sunshine!!!!

Hi Anna-Maria!!!!

got hope ? | Report to Admin

By rich Nov 20th 2008 at 5:26 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:26 pm EST)

Q: got hope ?

Q: got fight ?

Q: got opportunity ?

Yep, on all three.

I hope to fight cynicism every opportunity I get.

Re: Department of Homeland Security | Report to Admin

By Strong Heart Nov 20th 2008 at 5:47 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:47 pm EST)

I don't think Obama wants a proletarian socialist (Communist) in his administration but if you put on the pressure and get a article in the New York Times we can take down the Statue of Liberty and put up a monument to Lenin...

Re: Department of Homeland Security | Report to Admin

By meta Nov 20th 2008 at 6:32 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 6:32 pm EST)

????

Re: Department of Homeland Security | Report to Admin

By Strong Heart Nov 20th 2008 at 5:53 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:53 pm EST)

"The Truth is Out There", That's why I believe in the Martian Green Pea Soup Theory...

Re: Department of Homeland Security | Report to Admin

By Arlene in Maine Nov 20th 2008 at 6:04 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 6:04 pm EST)

What is going ON with you today, dude? Who or what are you trying to PROVOKE??? You have germinated enough nonsense on here today!

Re: Department of Homeland Security | Report to Admin

By Arlene in Maine Nov 20th 2008 at 6:05 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 6:05 pm EST)

Is this normal for Strong Heart, anybody? Has his name been hijacked perhaps???

Re: Department of Homeland Security | Report to Admin

By Nanci A patriotic dissident Nov 20th 2008 at 6:18 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 6:18 pm EST)

It's very possible that his name was hijacked. My observation of Strongheart over the months is that he loses it every once in a while and acts out of character, but most time stays sphinx-like above the fray. It certainly isn't normal for him to post so much. Maybe his meds wore off?

Re: Department of Homeland Security | Report to Admin

By Arlene in Maine Nov 20th 2008 at 6:30 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 6:30 pm EST)

Ahhh...maybe he is sounding really weird right now because Wade's comments were deleted, but not Strong Heart's...but, STILL. No comment on the meds, Nanc...I'm not gonna walk that plank witcha...but I'll be waiting in my rowboat to catcha down below...hee!

Re: Department of Homeland Security | Report to Admin

By Nanci A patriotic dissident Nov 20th 2008 at 6:48 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 6:48 pm EST)

Thanks for catching me! Ill be needing it. That comment was a bridge too far, so glad you didn't walk the plank with me. But I think everyone's on to the next blog! Whew! I knew I was pushing the envelope with that one and immediately regretted it even though I was saying it with good humor. sometimes my monty python humor that i've picked up here in the UK doesn't translate too well over there and I've been hammered for it here! :-)

Re: Department of Homeland Security | Report to Admin

By Arlene in Maine Nov 20th 2008 at 6:59 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 6:59 pm EST)

JUST my kind of humor, girl! :D

Re: Department of Homeland Security | Report to Admin

By Nanci A patriotic dissident Nov 20th 2008 at 7:11 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 7:11 pm EST)

I'm so glad you get me Arlene! :-) Well girl, I'm off to bed. It's after midnight here! I've hung out here way too long, but this has been one of the more entertaining threads so I had to stick around.

Nighty night!

Very interesting | Report to Admin

By Dinora Nov 20th 2008 at 5:49 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:49 pm EST)

Happiness keeps you Sweet,
Trials keep you Strong,
Sorrows keep you Human,
Failures keep you Humble,
Success keeps you Glowing,
But Only God keeps you Going!

Dalai Lama test. interesting results.

It's an interesting little exercise. Take it and see what it says about you.

Link

Wade and Strong Heart | Report to Admin

By Arlene in Maine Nov 20th 2008 at 5:52 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:52 pm EST)

Wade and Strong Heart! You are still both flitting around on this thread, shooting your impotent light sticks at each other and leaving annoying little cigarette burns all over the place. You have been doing this for HOURS. You need to 1) go sit in your corners and take a time out...or... 2) exchange emails and take your b.s. "outside"! C'mon, grow up already!

Re: Wade and Strong Heart | Report to Admin

By Nanci A patriotic dissident Nov 20th 2008 at 6:04 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 6:04 pm EST)

:-) Word!

Re: Wade and Strong Heart | Report to Admin

By Debbie UK Nov 20th 2008 at 6:12 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 6:12 pm EST)

Are you really including Strong Heart?

This blog is going a bit funny. We have bored fingers visiting. There are lots of other places you can blog that are closer to your viewpoint.

Re: Wade and Strong Heart | Report to Admin

By Arlene in Maine Nov 20th 2008 at 6:23 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 6:23 pm EST)

Obviously you haven't been reading the posts on this thread or you wouldn't be telling ME to blog elsewhere...you would be telling Wade AND Strong Heart.

Re: Wade and Strong Heart | Report to Admin

By Arlene in Maine Nov 20th 2008 at 6:26 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 6:26 pm EST)

And, Debbie, my fingers are not bored. I have been an avid blogger here for almost a year. If you don't share my viewpoints, then just scroll on past my posts. Peace out.

Re: Wade and Strong Heart | Report to Admin

By Donna No Shock Barack No Drama Obama of MD Nov 20th 2008 at 6:45 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 6:45 pm EST)

Ok let me try and explain. For the last few days we have been infiltrated with naysayers and concerned trolls and real trolls on the blog. Strong Heart has been following them around giving them a "word" lesson. That is what you have witnessed today. Wade is a foul mouthed troll and Strong Heart was defending our territory. It may have looked messy or childish if you did not understand why he was doing what he was doing but I understood it. If you look upthread he infuriated Wade so badly that he used enough foul language that he got booted from the thread. Strong Heart won that round. One Troll Down.

Re: Wade and Strong Heart | Report to Admin

By Arlene in Maine Nov 20th 2008 at 6:56 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 6:56 pm EST)

Thanks for explaining, Donna. I really appreciate that. But (((sigh)))... is provocation supposed to represent an improvement over R.I.D.? Or is this just an experimental technique?

Re: Wade and Strong Heart | Report to Admin

By Donna No Shock Barack No Drama Obama of MD Nov 20th 2008 at 7:02 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 7:02 pm EST)

Sorry to say that RID just doesn't work like it used to. :(

Re: Wade and Strong Heart | Report to Admin

By Arlene in Maine Nov 20th 2008 at 7:13 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 7:13 pm EST)

Bummer! But running around and spraying them with a can of RAID instead of R.I.D. leaves much to be desired... ;D

O World | Report to Admin

By Zenovia From Greenville SC Nov 20th 2008 at 5:54 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 5:54 pm EST)

How is everybody out there in O-town?

Loose Lips sink ships
Hillary is not suited for this post, should have given her the health care post. Her mouth is almost as bad as ole Motor Mouth Palin.

Beside, I don't thing slick Willie can get himself clean enough for Hillary to pass inspection.

SURPRISE! | Report to Admin

By NY Woman for Obama Nov 20th 2008 at 6:01 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 6:01 pm EST)

SURPRISE LINK ON CHANGE.GOV -

Link

Re: SURPRISE! | Report to Admin

By Nanci A patriotic dissident Nov 20th 2008 at 6:11 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 6:11 pm EST)

Thanks for this link. I love how Obama and Biden interact. This could be a really fun administration where people actually like each other and have a good time. It's the little things like birthday celebrations that are very telling about the tone things will take. I think PE Obama has a real sense of fun and mischief.

Re: SURPRISE! | Report to Admin

By Arlene in Maine Nov 20th 2008 at 6:16 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 6:16 pm EST)

Another plus! He's not doing this while thousands are drowning during a hurricane! YAY!!!

Re: SURPRISE! | Report to Admin

By Nanci A patriotic dissident Nov 20th 2008 at 6:49 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 6:49 pm EST)

Seriously. I forgot about THAT birthday cake! Hee!

Re: SURPRISE! | Report to Admin

By Hélène, with an H... like in Barack ! Nov 20th 2008 at 6:13 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 6:13 pm EST)

Thanks for the link !!!!!!

I wished him Happy Birthday (Joyeux Anniversaire) above, but I wouldn't have like to miss the cake, the candles, and his smile, and Barack making the room service !

What a team !

A Couple Thoughts | Report to Admin

By Gene Nov 20th 2008 at 6:10 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 6:10 pm EST)

A couple thoughts...

1) Many in the liberal blogosphere are upset about President-Elect Obama’s support of Senator Joe Lieberman’s effort to maintain his Homeland Security Committee Chair. I think Obama’s gesture is the kind of change we worked for in his campaign. There does not need to be political revenge. Frankly, if Lieberman had any class, he would have resigned the position and accepted a “back-bench” role in the upcoming session.

2) What’s with all this blogosphere anger over President-Elect Obama’s cabinet and other picks? The fact that some of these people have previous experience in government does not preclude them from helping to bring the change we worked for. Folks, let Obama be Obama. It’s worked fairly well so far.

Re: A Couple Thoughts | Report to Admin

By Stanley H. Krute Nov 20th 2008 at 6:21 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 6:21 pm EST)

Some folks are addicted to the rush of Donald Duck squawk whack mode. Just relaxing and feeling GREAT about what we've accomplished and what is yet to come are not within their behavioral vocabulary.

Me, I've loving every part of Joe and Barack continuing to build an engine of competent governance and systemic energization unlike anything we've ever seen.

My prescription for the worryin-warts: make 2 calls to Georgia for Jim Martin every time you want to jump out of the backseat and grab the wheel from that nutty Obama guy.

-- stan

Re: A Couple Thoughts | Report to Admin

By Dinora Nov 20th 2008 at 6:26 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 6:26 pm EST)

lol Stan good one make spill my drink

Re: A Couple Thoughts | Report to Admin

By Hélène, with an H... like in Barack ! Nov 20th 2008 at 6:33 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 6:33 pm EST)

Love your post, Stan !

Re: A Couple Thoughts (GA Calls) | Report to Admin

By Patriot2008 Nov 20th 2008 at 8:04 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 8:04 pm EST)

Yes, please help us make calls into Georgia. This will take the pressure off. I have to pray after talking to some people. Please help!!!

Re: A Couple Thoughts | Report to Admin

By Marbwi Nov 20th 2008 at 6:36 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 6:36 pm EST)

Bill Clinton had a lot of problems with the left in the Democratic party during his tenure. Many referred to him as Republican-lite(DLC). In 1994, the Democrats also lost control of the congress for the first time in 40 years on his watch. They also felt that he compromised/capitulated many Democratic principles to the Republicans. This was part of the reason other 3rd parties(Nader/Green) numbers grew. He also lost a lot of support in congress. Of course it did not help that he scored only 40+ percent in his election. When compared to Bush, they of course remember Clinton's relative peace and prosperity.

As a centrist, even through my disappointments by them, my Clinton-like never left me. I followed the details of his admn back in the 1990's. My concerns about the 1990's/this 2007-8 primary/post-primary/general/p ost-general all-things-Clinton is their way of causing/attracting distractions/drama/scandals. Al Gore expressed this concern about the missed opportunities post-Monica scandal.

If Hillary and Bill Clinton can tamp down on these concerns of mine and many others and embrace 'change', they could come out better than they ever were. It is in her personal interest not to cause Barack Obama any grief. Believe me, the media and the GOP have latched on to the potential for controversy. The media will latch on to anything(real or imaginary). The Clintons are media magnets for that purpose.

I suggested earlier that those who want to vent should post DEAR HILL/BILL constructive requests here. Tell them exactly what you want them to change(for the better). If enough people do that, the media and other blogs would spread the word.

ENOUGH ON CLINTON SOS (CAN IT & FORGET IT) | Report to Admin

By REAL DAVE Nov 20th 2008 at 6:10 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 6:10 pm EST)

ENOUGH ON CLINTON SOS (CAN IT & FORGET IT)

This is why Clinton would NOT have made a good VP pick. The Clintons cannot help themselves no backwards pun intended. They cannot help BUT help themselves. They want it their way and they want it ALL. They are deliberately playing games and making sure they are being played out in the media. THAT’S WHAT THEY DO BEST. They know how to play the Media.

1. FORGET Hillary as SOS
2. Give Hillary some lesser post WHETHER she like it or not.
3. Help pay her Campaign debts
4. Pick someone else for SOS and be done with it. DO IT NOW BEFORE HILARY turns down SOS as part of the Clinton Game plan. She knows if she is SOS, she can hang up a Presidential 2012/2016 run. When the Clintons get stuck on a goal they do not give up. They find a way around obstacles to get to their goal.
5. Obama is an obstacle to the Clintons goal of getting back into the White house. That’s what they live for now.
6. PRESIDENT ELECT OBAMA (if you had shown as much drama over a Pres-elect Hilary offer to Obama as SOS. Would she not just canned the idea and gave you a lesser post. By now no one, even the media would blame you. Bill & Hillary drama, for 4-8 YEARS!! Come on now the writing is on the wall.

Re: ENOUGH ON CLINTON SOS (CAN IT & FORGET IT) | Report to Admin

By Debbie UK Nov 20th 2008 at 6:15 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 6:15 pm EST)

Aaaaagh! Ok ok ok!

You are a very worried person. Turn the TV off. Stop reading the blogs. Get a cup of hot chocolate, and go to bed.

Re: ENOUGH ON CLINTON SOS (CAN IT & FORGET IT) | Report to Admin

By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 20th 2008 at 6:16 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 6:16 pm EST)

Very well said Ivan!

Smile Jesus Loves you and so do I :-)

Only the truth shall make us free!

Re: ENOUGH ON CLINTON SOS (CAN IT & FORGET IT) | Report to Admin

By Debbie UK Nov 20th 2008 at 6:27 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 6:27 pm EST)

You are quite strange. How many posts do you do in a day.

Repetition is Ok, don't do it myself, but when it's 24/7 it's a bit odd.

Your posts seem automated, on repeat over and over.

Just saying...

Re: ENOUGH ON CLINTON SOS (CAN IT & FORGET IT) | Report to Admin

By REAL DAVE Nov 20th 2008 at 6:30 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 6:30 pm EST)

Debbie UK

Here in the US we know the Clintons. We luv them and respect them, but we also REMEMBER THEM from the 90’s. Obamas entire 4-8 years will be about CLINTONS!! The supporters DO NOT WANT TO hear about the Clintons ANYMORE!! THAT IS NOT CHANGE!!

Re: ENOUGH ON CLINTON SOS (CAN IT & FORGET IT) | Report to Admin

By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 20th 2008 at 6:32 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 6:32 pm EST)

Thanks Ivan for keeping it real!

Smile Jesus Loves you and so do I :-)

Only the truth shall make us free!

Re: ENOUGH ON CLINTON SOS (CAN IT & FORGET IT) | Report to Admin

By Debbie UK Nov 20th 2008 at 6:34 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 6:34 pm EST)

Right, you're a friend of Debbie thank you jesus stuff.

Re: ENOUGH ON CLINTON SOS (CAN IT & FORGET IT) | Report to Admin

By Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus! Nov 20th 2008 at 6:37 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 6:37 pm EST)

Debbie

Smile Jesus Loves you and so do I :-)

Only the truth shall make us free!

Re: ENOUGH ON CLINTON SOS (CAN IT & FORGET IT) | Report to Admin

By REAL DAVE Nov 20th 2008 at 6:40 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 6:40 pm EST)

Debbie UK are you posting the Debbie Jesus stuff? Maybe in an attempt to belittle others comments. That’s strange and sad. If one cannot intellectually challenge another’s ideals then to resort to garbage talk is just sad.

Re: ENOUGH ON CLINTON SOS (CAN IT & FORGET IT) | Report to Admin

By REAL DAVE Nov 20th 2008 at 6:47 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 6:47 pm EST)

To ALL Debbies

1. I do not know or align with either of you.
2. I do not care if you know my name.
3. I will continue to speak my mind.
4. Lets be grown up about this

ot -- working in space -- video LIVE now | Report to Admin

By Stanley H. Krute Nov 20th 2008 at 6:15 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 6:15 pm EST)

If you're quick, you'll catch it: a gal and a guy pair of astronauts work on the space station: Link

an age of miracles and wonders

Re: ot -- working in space -- video LIVE now | Report to Admin

By Nanci A patriotic dissident Nov 20th 2008 at 6:29 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 6:29 pm EST)

Is it the video of the woman who lost her tool 'purse' in space. I read about it today. Now there is this tool kit out there orbiting. It was a very humerous story, but I heard they'll have to try and retrieve it so that it doesn't interfere with other space craft. The woman was so embarassed about losing her hold on the tool pouch.

automakers bailout | Report to Admin

By Marbwi Nov 20th 2008 at 6:27 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 6:27 pm EST)

I found myself agreeing with Pat 'ugh' Buchanan on Chris Matthews' Hardball tonight. He basically said what I was feeling in regards to manufacturing jobs disappearing in the USA. Now if I could convince him to walk away from his Palin-crush, then maybe I would not mute my tv as often.

May the good Lord forgive me for finding Buchanan sane and reasonable on this 'industry' issue.

Re: automakers bailout | Report to Admin

By Catherine of Riverdale, IL Nov 20th 2008 at 7:24 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 7:24 pm EST)

I actually agreed with Pat Buchanan too! Yuck and double yuck!! What he said was right. We need to make our products here, put our people to work, and keep America strong. Cars from Japan or Germany are great...but the bottom line is, it's only a car. It is not some grand thing to validate your affluence. So...buy American.

Re: automakers bailout | Report to Admin

By Catherine of Riverdale, IL Nov 20th 2008 at 7:24 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 7:24 pm EST)

I actually agreed with Pat Buchanan too! Yuck and double yuck!! What he said was right. We need to make our products here, put our people to work, and keep America strong. Cars from Japan or Germany are great...but the bottom line is, it's only a car. It is not some grand thing to validate your affluence. So...buy American.

NBLB | Report to Admin

By Donna No Shock Barack No Drama Obama of MD Nov 20th 2008 at 6:27 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 6:27 pm EST)

Link

SOS | Report to Admin

By Stan Z- Christian-President Obama Knows His Stuff Nov 20th 2008 at 6:30 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 6:30 pm EST)

I'm just going to pray that Barack gets the best person for SOS and hope others do the same.

I'm going to send an SOS to God.

Re: SOS | Report to Admin

By Catherine of Riverdale, IL Nov 20th 2008 at 7:25 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 7:25 pm EST)

Me too Stan...

Re: SOS | Report to Admin

By Catherine of Riverdale, IL Nov 20th 2008 at 7:26 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 7:26 pm EST)

Me too Stan...

GA Runoff -TV Commercials | Report to Admin

By Patriot2008 Nov 20th 2008 at 6:35 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 6:35 pm EST)

It seems that every Saxby Chambliss commercial is an attack against Jim Martin. I guess the RoBo Calls will begin soon. Has anyone else in GA noticed?

JOE BIDEN | Report to Admin

By Tamara "Hussein" Nov 20th 2008 at 6:38 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 6:38 pm EST)

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!!

Re: JOE BIDEN | Report to Admin

By Catherine of Riverdale, IL Nov 20th 2008 at 7:44 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 7:44 pm EST)

Yes! Happy B-Day to Joe the Vice President Elect!!

RealityChex.com | Report to Admin

By Marie from Fort Myers, FL Nov 20th 2008 at 10:06 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 10:06 pm EST)

Speaking of fabulous videos, there's one posted on RealityChex.com at the Link that I haven't seen anywhere else & that really touched me -- it's the first video in the right column. See what you think.

The boss rules! | Report to Admin

By MB Nov 20th 2008 at 11:32 pm EST (Updated Nov 20th 2008 at 11:32 pm EST)

Bruce Springsteen's songs are all about people who just want a fair shake at the American dream.

Will he sing at the inaugural ball?

"Peace, Hope, Prosperity" on YouTube | Report to Admin

By Chelle C Nov 21st 2008 at 12:34 am EST (Updated Nov 21st 2008 at 12:34 am EST)

AMERICA, we made history! Let's celebrate, but let us not forget to protect our hopes and dreams.
Chelle C.

*******PEACE SONG FOR AMERICA*****POP REGGAE*****

ON YouTube:"PEACE, HOPE, PROSPERITY”~PLAYERS FR BOB MARLEY, JIMMY CLIFF****

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ENJOY DE PEACE VIBE!
PLEASE PASS ON THE YouTube URL

CHELLE C. & DE PAPA RASS C BAND, LOS ANGELES
***FEATURING SELAH GOSPEL CHOIR

Words & Music By Rachelle Cano
ASCAP copyright 2008--2-18-08 at Yale University-New Haven, CT
srcano@aol.com--Los Angeles, CA USA

"Peace, Hope Prosperity"

Come together sons and daughters

Now’s the time to stand up for this country you love

If you’re a father, like I’m a mother

I will not leave my child the weight of war and despair

Come together all my brothers

Now’s the time to pledge your voices deep from your soul

If you’ve been workin, still it’s not workin

There’s got to be a way to break outta the mold

Peace, Hope Prosperity

No more inequalities

It’s all just too discouraging

To think we’d leave behind such broken dreams

We should respect our elders’ dreams

That all people in this nation

Should be free from all damnation

Live as one, we’re not as different as we seem

We all need love, friends- family

Come together all my sisters

Now’s the time to stand up for those babies you love

If you’re a mother, like I’m a mother

I will not leave the ones I love there out on the street

But what’s a son to do when he ain’t got no money?

His job’s been stolen by a thief in the night ‘n then shipped overseas

His wife and kids go hungry, tensions are risin

Tell me, is this supposed to be the American Dream?

Peace, Hope Prosperity

Will bring us closer to our dreams

There’s got to be a better way to see some

Common ground when minds are free

We should protect our childrens' dreams

Let all people in this nation

Seek their goals and aspirations

Let the legacy for generations be

There’s no surrender-just BELIEVE

We should respect our own beliefs

Bridge- Gospel Choir

Maybe reason or compassion will arise

and cause us to love our own neighbor as thy self and take pride

We must honor those before us, hear their cries

Leave the world better than we found it on the day that we die

Each new generation has been cherished onto

The least we

Obama Day Pledge online | Report to Admin

By Unknown user Nov 21st 2008 at 7:04 am EST (Updated Nov 21st 2008 at 7:04 am EST)

Just to let you know, the pledge to make the inauguration of president Obama(that has a nice ring to it!) is now live.

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OBAMA DAY

Hello Obama Landers! | Report to Admin

By Megan in Northwest Indiana Nov 21st 2008 at 7:12 am EST (Updated Nov 21st 2008 at 7:12 am EST)

Change.gov: Inside the Transition: Meet members of the Energy & Environment Policy Transition Team
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Is Obama Killing His Political Friends and Foes With Kindness? Can you say 'Hell Yeah'!?!
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Jed's Perspective: The Dow's in the Crapper - Then and Now
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Health Care Wonky: Tom Daschle, future Secretary of HHS (so far as we can tell) has written a book on the health care crisis
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That's not Rachel! - Franken goes to Washington, Clinton goes to Georgia, Stevens goes home
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Arizona Governor Janet Napolitano is said to be tapped for Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security
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Franken made headway on the first day of the Minnesota recount to the tune of 43 votes
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Energy and Commerce: Waxman IN - Dingell OUT
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Georgia Senate Runnoff Race: Chambliss up by 4 in Rasmussen Poll
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Karl Rove warning to Obama Campaign: It's probably a 'No No' to use campaign e-mails to garner support for your policies
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Senator Ted Stevens (R-AK) - Best Wishes and Farewell from the Senate Floor
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Daily Kos founder discusses the strong reaction by Liberal bloggers to Joe Lieberman keeping his Chair on the Senate Homeland Security Committee
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James Boyce on Howard Dean call to Liberal bloggers regarding Lieberman save
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Comedy Central: Jon Stewart does it again - Cheney and Gonzales indicted! What the who?
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Attorney General Mukasey collapes while speaking at Federalist Society event
Franken camp remains optimistic in Minnesota as recount continues
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Secretary of State Clinton | Report to Admin

By Michelle from Portland, OR Nov 21st 2008 at 11:18 am EST (Updated Nov 21st 2008 at 11:18 am EST)

I would just like to personally thank future President elect Obama for offering the Secretary of State position to Senator Hillary Clinton. As a former Clinton supporter I am elated that he was able to put aside any personal animosity behind and recognize her amazing potential to help his cabinet.

Barack Obama is a truly amazing man and I can't wait for him to get this country back on track again! It is fitting that Obama has been reading a lot of Abraham Lincoln books lately because I believe he will go down in history as an equally significant figure.

Auto Industry Bail Out | Report to Admin

By DB Nov 21st 2008 at 1:35 pm EST (Updated Nov 21st 2008 at 1:35 pm EST)

I think that this would be a tragic mistake to offer the auto industry a bailout package. There is a fundamental flaw with the American auto industry business model. Until that is corrected, you could throw a billion dollars at the problem, and the issue will still be there. It may be put off, but it is inevitable. As long as the unions are in play and the average cost per car for employee benefits is nearly $1,600 per car produced versus $300 for every Toyota produced, the American car companies can't compete and will continue to struggle. They need to tell the unions that they will go out of business unless they change. I think that the lifetime health benefits should be cut for all employees that are more than 5 years away from retirement. The government should include in the healthcare reform benefits for retirees that are impacted by this move. Finally, the American car companies need to have more vision and start to produce cars that are more efficient. My dad use to work for GM and the company is very slow in reacting to change. I have worked for Toyota and they were always trying to anticipate changes and to be on the forefront of those changes. We operate in a free market economy (or so I thought) so we need to let the market run its course and companies that are most efficient prosper and the others fade away. If we bail out the auto industry, then who is next? I didn't agree with the bail out of the financial institutions and I really don't agree with this proposal even more. Let's take all of this money that magically is available and give it back to the taxpayers. You want to spur the economy? Give $700 billion to taxpayers in refunds and you will see house payments being made, debts being paid down, and purchases of goods. Why select a few to benefit when so many need help?

Secretary of State | Report to Admin

By Gorgeous Nov 21st 2008 at 4:05 pm EST (Updated Nov 21st 2008 at 4:05 pm EST)

I campaigned very hard to get Barack elected and am very happy for that. I really hope he rethinks appointing Hillary as Secretary of State...we know she would accept. I personally think it is a mistake.

Barack Oclinton | Report to Admin

By YoungAttorneyinDC Nov 22nd 2008 at 12:13 am EST (Updated Nov 22nd 2008 at 12:13 am EST)

I didn't realize that when I voted for Barack Obama, I was really voting for a third Clinton administration term.

>Change I'm Starting Not to Believe In

Re. Clinton spot | Report to Admin

By Brian Zelley Nov 22nd 2008 at 4:33 am EST (Updated Nov 22nd 2008 at 4:33 am EST)

Although I was a Barrack supporter from the beginning,
once the primary process was over some folks
remained critical of Hillary. That was a real shame.

However, the selection of Hillary for S. of S. is a great idea. I would prefer Gov. Bill Richardson, but believe
Hillary will do a great job and will be a strong team player. Also, hoping there is a spot for Gov. Richardson.

Also, during the Presidential race, Gov. Sarah Palin
was fair game for much criticiism especially on her negative attacks at her campaign stops. However,
the race is over and the best team won, so it is time
to end the rhetoric against Palin. If she continues
to stay in the public eye, then the main stream media
can do the job of commenting. And if the past is any
indication, the TV comics and late night hosts
will have a field day with the potential material.

The Road to January 2009 | Report to Admin

By Brian Zelley Nov 22nd 2008 at 4:15 am EST (Updated Nov 22nd 2008 at 4:15 am EST)

It is great to see the progress being made towards
the big day in January.

I think it would be great to have Gov. Bill Richardson in
one of a number of positions that he could fill
with experience and dedication to the team.

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