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Christopher Hass
- May 14th, 2008 at 1:22 am EDT
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We won't know the final vote totals and delegate counts out of West Virginia until tomorrow, but one thing is certain — we are closer now to securing the nomination than ever before. Thank you to all the volunteers on the ground, and the supporters from all across the country who made calls over the past few weeks. Now it's on to
Oregon
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Carol Porter
May 14th 2008 at 1:27 am EDT
We Can!
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Carol Porter
May 14th 2008 at 1:29 am EDT
The spin on West Virginia is pretty crazy -- the media certainly wants to keep this race alive.
This means that all Obama supporters need to keep working as hard as ever, making phone calls, donating, evangelizing to friends, family, and strangers.
Barack Obama will be a terrific US President!
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The Extreme aka Allen Norfolk, VA Navy Sailor. Really Proud member of the Barack Obama/American People Party!!!
May 14th 2008 at 1:33 am EDT
WV is nothing short of another Ohio, Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, Indiana... something for Hillary to brag about.
After we win Oregon, South Dakota, AND Montana, IT IS OVER... we will have an insurmountable pledged delegate lead, and have enough supers by our side that Hillabee could raise the number to 2300+ and we still have supers coming over...
NOT THIS TIME!!!
Obama/Sebelius or Obama/Kaine 08!!!
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♥ Not.This.Time.Not.This.Year. ♥ Joyce from Canada ♥ ♥
May 14th 2008 at 1:39 am EDT
Hi Hopemongers,
Rejoice for the end is near.
According to Todd, Clinton didn't win by enough tonight. She needed to have a 3-1 win, she only got 2-1. In order to win the nomination she needs at least 91% of the votes in the remaining 5 contests OR 172 of the remaining 189 delegates...phew!!
Yes We Can Win this nomination
Yes We Can Win in November
Yes We Can Heal this nation
Yes We Can Transform the world
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May 14th 2008 at 1:48 am EDT
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♥ Not.This.Time.Not.This.Year. ♥ Joyce from Canada ♥ ♥
May 14th 2008 at 2:09 am EDT
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A good read - apart from some silly remarks, it is a good article
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The Obama-McCain contest will hold up a mirror to America's soul.
"The coming presidential election will present America with the starkest political choice it has faced in a generation. On one side, we have Barack Obama -- the first black candidate to make it to the finals, a staunch liberal who opposes the Bush administration's Iraq war and its massive giveaway to the rich. On the other, we have John McCain, a onetime maverick who expeditiously crawled back into the far-right bosom of the GOP and is running as Son of Bush.
....The overriding question here is simple: Who are we? This election represents a giant mirror, a chance to find out who we are as a people. The issue is whether America is still the scared, reactionary, sclerotic, profoundly creaky nation that it has been for the last eight years, or whether it's ready to shrug off the Bush era and begin anew. It comes down to whether America is old or young."
Read the whole article here
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May 14th 2008 at 7:16 am EDT
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IveyLeague5
May 14th 2008 at 6:44 am EDT
Thanks Joyce...
Certainly a good read
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Dale (Man-in-the-Kitchen) in Idaho
May 14th 2008 at 1:55 am EDT
For a bit of perspective -
Here in Idaho Barack won in delegates 15 to 3.
That's +11.
Remember, we had several huge wins in nearly all white states out here in the west, so let's not sweat this too much, okay.
We've had some very fine dedicated supporters in every state, even the ones we've lost. We have some great supporters in OH and PA for example. We'll be fine in the GE.
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Bracy
May 14th 2008 at 2:06 am EDT
Yes, we must continue to stay focused. Just like Carol said, we must make call, donate and do whatever we need to make sure Barak is the winter.
The media is selling advertisement, so the media want to keep this race going. The media is trying to divide the party, but we can't allow this to happen.
Let's keep the movement going.
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Bracy
May 14th 2008 at 2:16 am EDT
My bad I mean Winner not Winter
ANOTHER SUPERDELEGATE |
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Shannon
May 14th 2008 at 2:35 am EDT
See, even a 41 point loss can't stop the tidal wave.
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Marie Hussein from New Mexico
May 14th 2008 at 2:45 am EDT
Yes!
And I love the way they made their choice and the way they made their announcement.
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May 14th 2008 at 7:16 am EDT
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IT IS HISTORIC MOMENT |
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Andyusa
May 14th 2008 at 10:03 am EDT
Good Morning to all,
it cannot be overestimated and overstressed what that means. The USA is the leader of the free world and we have to show the world (who is CLOSELY WATCHING) that WE VALUE CHARACTER AND HONESTY, TRUTHFULNESS AND FAIRNESS AND that we DO NOT DISCRIMINATE on the basis of race or religion.WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER!
We are at a turning point in our (and the world's) HISTORY. We CAN make it happen. WE WILL MAKE IT HAPPEN.I have a dream...MAKE IT REALITY.
YES WE CAN!!
President Barack Obama all the way...
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Seriously Evaluating
May 14th 2008 at 8:37 am EDT
To me, it is insulting to Hillary to declare over and over again that she only wins uneducated, poor whites and that Obama wins with the educated, intelligent people who can make objective decisions. To keep the racial divides going, the media could flaunt the fact that Hillary and Bill have alienated the African-American community. Furthermore, anyone who sees any of these events can see the predominantly white audiences for Obama. Did anyone see the television special about his Central Command people? They were mostly white. Many of his strongest campaign organizers are white. Of course, there are Blacks working for everybody's campaign. I think it is wise to just keep "walking the talk." Eventually, the pollsters and the media will get a clue.
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Dale (Man-in-the-Kitchen) in Idaho
May 14th 2008 at 2:06 am EDT
Must be late.
I mean +12.
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cbn2
May 14th 2008 at 3:36 am EDT
And here in Alaska, he won by 49% (74-25).
I think he'll win Alaska in November, too.
He's amazingly popular up here!
And btw, we're 66% Caucasian and 21% Native, with 62% registered Independents.
Really, I think what we're seeing in WV is somewhat a function of limited education and/or perspective. I'm only guessing, though, because I've never been there. (I'm not much inclined to visit in the future, either.)
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Kristian "I Ain't Afraid of No GOPs" Idol
May 14th 2008 at 8:21 am EDT
"Low-information voters"
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Arlene
May 14th 2008 at 12:30 pm EDT
Yes Todd is right and so are we....
Oregon, Kentucky, Montana and Dakota
and notice, more superdelegates are endorsing!
I know I am not the best at jokes but wanted to
share what someone said in Seattle last night...
Humor is our best medicine.....
What are the majority of West Virginian
voters called?
HillBillies
enjoy your thread...
Obama 2008
and to the White House we go!
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Nzingha Stewart
May 14th 2008 at 1:46 am EDT
I agree with you that WV is just another state for Hillary to brag about, BUT, it's a substantial brag in the sense that it's a swing state, and she's going to add it to FL and OH in every conversation with supers who still have the right to switch over to her if they start to get scared. She also just cut into Obama's in the popular vote by 140,000+.
Scary considering Puerto Rico is still left, they have 1.5mil voters and they vote at 80% rates and right now are going for her by almost 70%, she just might pass him in the popular vote.
Even if that happens, he'll be the nominee, but if we let her win the popular vote, he may be a wounded candidate in Nov, as her supporters - WHO WE NEED, will feel cheated and it'll be harder to heal the rift in the party.
That being said, I hope he doesn't cede Kentucky like he did WV. I think he should spend more time there, and do "listening tours," and spin it like - I know I'm going to lose this state, I just want to see how to connect to these voters in the fall. It'll bring the margin of victory closer, we won't lose that much of the popular vote, he can keep the expectations low, and show the super D's that he is planning on shoring up his support with the "white working class," for the fall, and they way he's doing it now, isn't by trying to beat Hillary, but by asking those who won't vote for him now, "why not?" so he can work on those issues for the general.
I will be making phone calls this week, but I hope the campaign matches us in phone calls, with attention to that state.
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Carol Porter
May 14th 2008 at 1:53 am EDT
You've made really good points, and I hope Barack's campaign is thinking the same way you are.
Keep up the good work. Yes We Can!
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Yvette from Hillsborough, NJ
May 14th 2008 at 2:18 am EDT
Nzingha, I strongly agree with you and appreciate the points made. Not sure what day, but I heard Senator Obama is planning to go back to Kentucky before its primary. I am praying that is true. We do not want to hand it to Senator Clinton. I think it is EXTREMELY important for Senator Obama to spend some time in Kentucky and chat with the voters (shake some hands and lend an ear).
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Nzingha Stewart
May 14th 2008 at 2:27 am EDT
Thanks for that Yvette, I hadn't heard about another day in Kentucky, but I hope it's a substantive day - not just one speech and he's out, but a day of him hitting the ground, doing several town halls in different cities there, meeting the people at the diners, etc...
I don't think it'll help us win that state, and they should keep expectations low, I just don't want her to run away with the popular vote, and it's a chance for him to not only spin it as a "listening tour," it's a great chance for him to really sit down with the people who WON'T vote for him, and actually listen.
If I was HQ, I would do a radio ad for people who WON'T vote for him to come to a town hall and tell him why... Enough preaching to the choir, we need to reach the people who won't for him, and hear what their concerns are before we take on McCain.
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Patty in Colorado
May 14th 2008 at 2:37 am EDT
Tonight, I watched the speech he gave in Missouri. He ended the speech by saying that he didn't want to use all the time talking, because he wanted to listen to the people, answer their questions, and it was lovely!
He was so comfortable...He talked to them all like he was in their livingroom. He is so good with people.
A terrific role model. He's so respectful of everyone!
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Andyusa
May 14th 2008 at 2:54 am EDT
Patty, that's exactly WHY Barack is so different from all. I am sure he would do a lot more listening if he had the time, but HRC is stealing this from him and thus hurting us in the GE.
Please pray that she finally gets to her senses.
P.S. I just made another donation to celebrate Barack
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Balloons Across America
May 14th 2008 at 2:59 am EDT
rather hillary "find's" her mind or not, she can't catch up, and it is a disgrace for the DNC or "the powers that be" to let her continue to divide us.... because that's basically what we are doing.... Barack will win the hearts of her supporter's the minute she steps down!! guaranteed!! He just has "IT" like that!
GO OBAMA GO!!
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Hope4Unity
May 14th 2008 at 3:09 am EDT
I agree with you Patty. The question and answer session in Missouri was something special to see. Senator Obama has such a relaxed way of being and a talent for breaking down the issues in a way that creates access to dialogue. I think that when people are in his presence they can feel that he is truely genuine, respectful and energizing.
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FiredUpInCA
May 14th 2008 at 3:02 am EDT
This is one of the smartest ideas I've read. I hope HQ is listening.
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Linda...President Obama/A New Beginning!!
May 14th 2008 at 3:15 am EDT
I am really concerned..the language being used about "something big happening that could cause Barack the nomination" is getting louder and louder. I think he may be in for another tough run. I think the other side has something they are waiting until the right time to release.
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Balloons Across America
May 14th 2008 at 3:55 am EDT
Honey, let them bring it on.... If somehow "they"
stole this from Barack, no one would be able to
even walk down the street!!
This is just not a "black thang" it' a "people
thang" and nobody's going for any bs... so if
you're so concerned, donate some money... it'll
make you feel better!!
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Benjamin from Wyoming
May 14th 2008 at 5:27 am EDT
Lynn, don't put that kind of stuff out there. It just is fear. Remember Fear Is False Evidence Appearing Real.
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LenaX
May 14th 2008 at 10:15 am EDT
Everybody calm down!
Do you have any idea what kind of celebration there will be, when they finally announce that Senator Barack Obama has secured the Democratic Nomination for President of the United States of America!
Can you Picture it?
Where will you be?
Can you imagine the biggest party the world has ever seen?
Blacks, Whites, Asians, Hispanics and Native Americans partying, celebrating!
My God!
There will be cheers!
There will be tears!
And there will be CELEBRATION!
Hold on! Nothing's changed, game on!
If you believe 70% of the superdelegates will vote for her, you're sadly mistaken, because if they do that, it's like that movie, "There will be blood!"
So, pray for Barack, pray for his family, know, believe and trust God, remember Barack means Blessed!
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Hanne Maria. From MD
May 14th 2008 at 8:27 am EDT
I wish Obama keep his perspective. He is not officially the party's nominee. What ever set of rules we are playing this game by the party leaders and his opponents keep raising the bar. (old politics)
But with that mind set. He know he is going to be pick after, they are going to try to derail him, obscure him and take this away from him If he lower his guard. This are the old politics. (HRC and her pundits) So, I deeply believe Barak has to fold up his sleeves and get out to close the gaps in those states as much as he can. He own that much to everybody. His family, his supporters, the campaign and people that has endorsed him and to himself. His tactic of trying to let Hillary go out of the race in a graceful way by winning these so call HILLARY states without campaigning there and taking there his massage it's very honorable. and show what a gentleman he is. BUT she doesn't know what being a LADY means!!!!
We are standing by him. we can call and e-mail as much but he have to complete the calls.He is the one that holds the magic!!!!!! I want to hear something from the HQ about this demographics issue we are having problem with. how can we break it and make contact with those voters and how can Barak help us to do it.
I will keep contacting people and will attempt to call but the race for the nomination it's not over accordingly to the DNC. they hold the last word. Do they?
Never underestimate your opponent. SPECIALLY if the opponent is BILLARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Supporter of BarackObama, still bitter..
May 14th 2008 at 10:57 am EDT
Nzingha and everyone, you must remember Obama is trying to spread himself out to all these areas and HRC knows what she is doing. HRC does not want a democrat in the White House if it is not her and that is why she is staying in this race. HRC is making it hard for Obama to get to all these places by distracting the voters with fear campaigning with her and Bill, Chelsea the media and the GOP along with her. Bill had more on the top of truck meetings all throughout WV and HRC had hers too, so how can Obama be in all these places like the Clinton pack can. I do not think you realize how hard it is for Obama to be traveling like that. Obama had to concentrate the attention of where he can win and the delegate count matters, which is Oregon. I wish you guys to stay up and traveling like he does and see if you can carry on a meaningful conversation as Barack does he has to be tired, so try and be considerate of him and his staff. The Obama Campaign has done a great job against this Clinton Dynasty, the media and the GOP.
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Supporter of BarackObama, still bitter..
May 14th 2008 at 11:02 am EDT
And, I read some of the articles about what Bill has been telling voters basically implying we not just Obama (we the supporters and Obama) thought the WV voters were stupid and that we were elitist, and they believed him. Bill Clinton knows that people remember him and trust him because the president of the united states does not lie and he is counting on that. Plus, someone had a link on another blog that showed people think Obama was Muslim and that he was a half-american (I wonder who has been putting those thoughts in everyone's minds?)
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Tim from Caldwell, NJ
May 14th 2008 at 3:40 am EDT
I agree with you too. I feel that he shouldn't give up on the states that the polls are showing a large margin for Clinton. He has to let them know that he cares for them as well. I know that it's very difficult for him to deal with negativity.....I mean who needs to be in the middle of negativity? He can stay positive and go on to winning this nomination showing America that he will be a strong president! Go Obama !! We are standing here with you!!
Sharon from Mallorca Spain (a proud American)
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Balloons Across America
May 14th 2008 at 4:00 am EDT
when you're a Black man in america, you learn to
deal with negativity early in the game...
Barack has the gift of a calm spirit... doesn't
mean he doesn't handle negativity well. It just
means he rises above it...
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Sano
May 14th 2008 at 6:31 am EDT
You may be correct about the race aspect of his character. HOWEVER, I think the fact that he grew up with experiences in different cultures and the Hawaii 'aloha spirit' has more to do with his disposition than that he is "black."
Just my humble white-boy's opinion.
:o)
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Trini4Obama
May 14th 2008 at 7:10 am EDT
I agree,their is a calm about him thats really impressive.I turned off msm last night and it felt really good.remember family MSM needs the drama to continue in order to profit ,when it gets to be to much just TURN IT OFF !!!!!!
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Balloons Across America
May 14th 2008 at 7:50 am EDT
Trini, when I say "Gift" I mean it's something special that GOD gives you... Anybody can see that it's something special about Barack.. they don't necessary have to like it, they can even be envious of it... but he is gifted...I think you have to be spiritual minded to see it for what it really is....
Let's just Love him!! (smile)
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Balloons Across America
May 14th 2008 at 8:21 am EDT
Go Obama!!
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Maxine From Montclair NJ
May 14th 2008 at 8:31 am EDT
I heard when Elizabeth made that comment and it was really upsetting. But them I pinced my self and said consider the source so I let it go.
She should be muzzeled.
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May 14th 2008 at 8:18 am EDT
Barack is humble...most of the time:) No one is perfect. However, I truly believe that he is working hard to keep his ego in check. Our ego's are the "false" part of who we are...it serves to seperate, cause division, make ourselves to be always right and others always wrong, create drama in the form of wars, "war on terrorism" "war against drugs" etc...and these dramas always serve to make things much worse.
I know, because I feel it and see it, that Barack is in touch with who he really is, his spirit. That is the only true power...everything else is false. Which is why, if we as a country, collectively, are ready for the truth, ready to come together and see our common purposes, ready to end all the drama, Barack will be our next President. If we aren't ready collectively, well...things will just have to get worse before they get better. Just keep in mind that what Barack is doing...not coming from his ego...is what is frightening people so much and at the same time giving so many HOPE for the first time in their entire lives. Never has a politician come from this point of consciousness!!! So be gentle in your thoughts towards people who are a bit freaked out about this whole thing...they may just need more time to come around.
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Not This Time, Not This Year DHussein
May 14th 2008 at 8:38 am EDT
Just wanted to add...of course his life experiences have had a part in bringing him to this point. The fact that he's bi-racial (as he pointed out is his speech on race)and has lived in very poor countries, has HELPED him, through his personal sufferings (which we all experience in this crazy world), come to where he is today. I know that suffering can open a person to the truth of who they really are. The people we need to feel for are those who have alot materially, and have never been through hard times...those are the people who will find it hard to find true peace in their lives...as evidenced by our Hollywood types...fame and money can never bring you true peace. Suffering either opens you up or brings you down completely.
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A Rebirth
May 14th 2008 at 8:40 am EDT
I like your way of thinking, D; you've got a friend for life here!
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Not This Time, Not This Year DHussein
May 14th 2008 at 9:18 am EDT
Bahamas...funny thing..I've enjoyed your writings too..must be kindred spirits:) Jah bless.
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Robby from Louisiana who loves the Middle Name Hussein and Believe in Barack Obama
May 14th 2008 at 9:32 am EDT
Kelly,
You are the first person on the blog that has ever acknowledge that Barack Obama has a special gift that he has been annointed with by God. I have always said this to my friends and family. It is so nice to know that others are aware of this also. We have to remember also that Barack's mother traveled to many Countries to do charitable work for the under served. One does not do that type of work without having the heart and compassion. Barack has both his Moms spirit of charity, and his own gift in which he has been blessed with. There has never been a politician that has captured the goodness of a Nation in my lifetime, until Barack. Barack has also helped me in understanding the urgency of now. I must admit that I could have gone to W.V. to volunteer, but I had a real fear of some of the areas. I grew up in Louisiana, and there are places here that are just like places in WV. The only difference is that Barack carried Louisiana 63% to 37%. I think that after we experienced the Jena mess I think people realize that times are different and what use to be should not still be. Either we as a Country can rise together, or we as a Country can fall together. So when the GE come and we start to campaign again in WV I will volunteer to go. I want to understand the people and their struggles, and I want them to see that my life story is not too far from theirs.The only difference is I took the oportunities that were given to me, and I never quite seeking new opportunities. The economy is hard on everyone today, but until we get a president such as Obama, then and only then will everyone will be able to rise to the greatest of their potential.
Love, Grace, and Peace
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Balloons Across America
May 14th 2008 at 7:46 am EDT
The "GIFT" of a calm spirit doesn't come from being black (don't think i said that)...nor does
it come from living in hawaii...
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Sano
May 14th 2008 at 8:02 am EDT
Gotcha . . . perhaps I misunderstood. Agree that he is gifted - both in nature and from his nurturing.
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Penny
May 14th 2008 at 7:58 am EDT
Nzingha is right about KY; Mr. Obama has to run there in a more direct and personal way than he did in WV. The demographics are a little bit better for him. However, the exit polls in WV indicated that 81% of the Clinton voters said that race was a factor in their decision to vote for HRC. People who have been polled in KY have already indicated that race would also be an important factor for them in their voting decisions.
BO has an uphill battle with segments of the white electorate in that they WILL vote for HRC because she is white and BO is black/or part-black or part/white. In America, even if you are half and half biologically, you HAVE to be black if you look black, and there is still a lot of negative baggage associated with being black in the minds of many people. This is so crazy that in 2008, we are still debating the "RACE" issue when all the scientific evidence suggests that it is an outmoded constuct.
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Not This Time, Not This Year DHussein
May 14th 2008 at 9:47 am EDT
Oh no,no, no...you don't HAVE to be anything. That's where evil comes in..when you let other people define you. They don't have that power. If you are bi-racial..that's exactly what you are...bi-racial. Anything else is simply not true...it's ignorance.
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Seriously Evaluating
May 14th 2008 at 8:43 am EDT
Yes, you are right. I am concerned about the popular vote damage done in West Virginia. Since Obama is an islander, he should have affinity with Puerto Rico. I don't understand why Hillary is so popular with the island states. We cannot be so complacent about anything. I agree that he must work Kentucky and Puerto Rico.
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Boricua for Obama
May 14th 2008 at 9:53 am EDT
In general Puerto Ricans don't identify with Hawaii or as "Islanders" - they identify as Puerto Ricans or Caribeños. They are very attuned to PR politics, but aside from the presidential election, don't necessarily follow State side politics as closely (but probably more closely than you would expect).
All of that being said, Clinton has brand recognition & that is IMPORTANT in PR politics. The years under her husband's presidency were fairly prosperous for all of America including PR - especially in comparison to the last 7 years. There is name recognition and loyalty at play in PR. For Obama to overcome that he needs to become more of a known quantity in PR. That means phonebanking, but also Puerto Ricans who support Obama to reach out to their friends and family and talk up the Senator in a personal manner (I have already e-mailed my family and will be calling them individually in the coming weeks).
Another thing working against him is that a ridiculous scandal appeared and then was repudiated on "La Comay" a gossip show that is VERY POPULAR on the island. The bad news is that the first intro to Obama was this crap & things like this don't just die. Even with the scandal dismissed, it will not just go away in the minds of Puerto Ricans.
The potentially good thing is that it has been completely dismissed AND that Obama is now more of a household name. La Comay - believe it or not - has sway - it would be great if Obama appeared on the show - even via satellite - to introduce himself to the Puerto Rican community.
Here are links to the interviews of Larry Sinclair with La Comay & then the dismissal:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =pUp7ElyqdQE&feature=relat ed
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Blogs on this:
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http://advanceindiana.blogspot .com/2008/04/sinclair-story-hi ts-msm-in-puerto-rico.html
Do not let the fact that a talking puppet is the host of the show fool you - La Comay is very popular & influential (a lot more than SNL for example). It will take A LOT of work to kill this thing.
The basic message here is if you can speak Spanish and call PR - now is the time! Even if they don't vote in the general election - it would sting to have Obama lose the popular vote because Puerto Ricans didn't really KNOW him.
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May 14th 2008 at 10:07 am EDT
Seriously Evaluating,
Hillary and Bill were planning their return to the white house for many many years. As soon as Bill left the white house (just before he left he pardoned some puerto rican prisoners). They moved to NY, she ran for the senate and they have been working these constituencies for years.
In case anyone has forgotten we are up against a deep ingrained political machine who will dredge up race in the worst way to return to the white house.
I don't blame all of the racism on the people from WV they were used as a means to an end. The sad part is they voted against their own interest, a country with a government that works for the people instead of the people at the top!
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May 14th 2008 at 9:41 am EDT
I agree that a presence needs to be made in Kentucky. It would benefit the Obama campaign to show the voters in that state that they matter, their opinions, struggles, good times and bad times, their vote matters!! To do this, Obama MUST go there. He MUST talk with the locals. He MUST show them who he is and show his passion for our country.
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May 14th 2008 at 2:32 am EDT
The very important thing to remember about Puerto Rico is that they do *not* vote in the General Election.
So they're using the popular vote from Puerto Rico as a change the perception gambit.
Hillary's speech tonight was phenomenal. I think Keith Olbermann summed it up best: It's like watching something in the Fourth Dimension. Their reality is something different than is what is happening in the rest of the world. Maybe Hillary doesn't read the paper.
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May 14th 2008 at 8:23 am EDT
I agree that Senator Obama needs to make Kentucky feel like they matter. I know that had to be hard for WV to not get the opportunity to meet Senator Obama on the level that many other states have. I think people know the Clinton brand and whether or not they agree with her policies if it comes down to voting for a brand they know against someone they don't know their going to go with something familiar. Remember, Hillary calls them uneducated voters she is winning but they really are uninformed voters. Senator Obama needs to get all voters in every state informed. That's how so many Republican's and Independants have come to support him. I know in Kentucky this week thousands were turned away from his speech because so many people showed up. A friend of mine contacted me disappointed because her mother and the rest of her family waited in line for quite sometime but there just was not room for them to get in. We need to help by making as many calls as possible to Kentucky.
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May 14th 2008 at 2:34 am EDT
I don't think we need to worry. West Virginia and Arkansas are the only states left in the Union where Hillary's circle the wagons arguments can attract that many people. Our vote totals are inline with the percentages of enlighten, tolerant, progressive people in the state. We do what we can but some people we will not reach no matter what - they will vote their bias instead of this country's future.
Our guy nonetheless had a hugh win tonight. In that Mississippi raCE, The republican Davis ran against Den. Obama. He ascribed every rumor every said about Barack and Rev. Wright to Childer's the democrate. Chaney even came to town.
Obama will have a legislature to work with and get things done. There are many more good people that are not going to allow the BS to keep us from turning around this country.
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Pizzaro
May 14th 2008 at 6:50 am EDT
Correction: The popular vote in PR does NOT count only the delegates
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May 14th 2008 at 7:07 am EDT
Sorrry, but it will count in theory - Hillary makes a big deal about it. That is why it is important. NOW everyone is saying delegates AND popular vote.
So much for the rules...
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Dee C.
May 14th 2008 at 7:56 am EDT
of course..in Hillaryland and in theory of Hillary land..everything counts..even the popular vote of MI where Obama's name was not even in ballot..
who can deal with irrational theory? so better be in safe side
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Ken from Missouri
May 14th 2008 at 7:11 am EDT
your message is on target. Chuck Todd felt the same you do.
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Sharon w from Florence, SC
May 14th 2008 at 7:13 am EDT
I totally agree with you. Barack needs to continue campaigning in all remaining states, just like he did til West Virginia. I know the general election is important, but first things first. Let's secure the nomination. Go OBAMA!!!
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In Obama I trust
May 14th 2008 at 7:24 am EDT
I wish the superdels wold just end this. McCain had such a huge head start touring through the country. Barack needs to tour around and define himself and the campaign before the repubs do it for him. I know everyone seems to be for letting all states vote but I am ready for primary season to be over. We can use our resources towards the general. Yes we can!
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Kristian "I Ain't Afraid of No GOPs" Idol
May 14th 2008 at 8:48 am EDT
Take a breath, we've got over five MONTHS until the general.
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May 14th 2008 at 10:03 am EDT
He is touring around already. Was in Missouri last night, Michigan today and then Florida...everythings going to be o.k.
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May 14th 2008 at 11:09 am EDT
Obama was in W. Va in March and had a big turnout.
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Sharon w from Florence, SC
May 14th 2008 at 7:24 am EDT
I totally agree with you. Barack needs to continue campaigning in all remaining states, just like he did til West Virginia. I know the general election is important, but first things first. Let's secure the nomination. Go OBAMA!!!
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May 14th 2008 at 9:20 am EDT
HEY HOPEMONGERS,
I agree that Hillary can narrow Obama's popular vote lead--this time--but I feel that he will increase it by the end of the primaries.
MOREOVER, PUERTO RICO DOES NOT VOTE IN THE GENERAL ELECTION, AND THE SUPERS KNOW THAT. SO, HILLARY'S ARGUMENT IS A MOOT ONE.
I AM JUST DISGUSTED WITH THIS WOMAN AND THE DIVISIVE TACTICS THAT SHE IS USING. I HAVE A GOOD FEELING THAT AT THE END OF THIS CAMPAIGN SHE AND HER HUSBAND WILL BE THE DAMAGED GOODS.
AS THE OLD PEOPLE USED TO SAY, "WHEN YOU DIG A HOLE FOR SOMEONE TO FALL INTO, DIG TWO" BECAUSE YOU WILL END UP FALLING INTO THE FIRST ONE.
HILLARY WILL FALL INTO THE PIT SHE IS DIGGING FOR OBAMA.
OBAMA '08
G.
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Janet from Enola, PA
May 14th 2008 at 2:32 pm EDT
I agree and also hope the campaign is listening.
This is the UNITED States of America.
Yes we can.
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Dave
May 14th 2008 at 1:58 am EDT
It doesn't matter. Let her brag for one week, then Obama will have pledged delegate lead and within a day or two the 2024 delegates needed to win.
I'll cover a bottle of champagne for her "I won the big states" party the day after Obama won the nomination.
Maybe she can create a Civil War, get them all to defect the US and she can be their President.
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Craig from Houston, TX
May 14th 2008 at 2:06 am EDT
I think Ohio, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, etc. means Obama needs to take a serious look at Ohio Governor Ted Strickland as VP.
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Balloons Across America
May 14th 2008 at 3:00 am EDT
No offense, but don't make me vomit!!!
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Laura Jean from North Eastham, MA
May 14th 2008 at 5:32 am EDT
I'm originally from Connecticut and like Chris Dodd's politics anyway. But I think that more than some kind of geographic balance, there should be an experience balance. And for that I like Gov. Kaine of VA. Check out his bio on the Governor's website:
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He is liberal, Catholic, did missionary work in Honduras (international experience, idealism, speaks Spanish), has executive experience as governor, and I have never heard anything bad about him. I wouldn't worry so much about Ohio, but Virginia is the bulwark of the South and I think Kaine looks like he shares a lot of Obama's ideas and ideals.
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May 14th 2008 at 5:39 am EDT
I guess he's cool...but he yells all the time! LOL LOL
I can't see him mixing with Barack but I may be wrong...
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May 14th 2008 at 3:54 am EDT
Here are the pros and cons of Strickland:
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Overall, I would prefer Jim Webb, if Webb could prove he can get along with Obama and stick with the message. He hasn't proved that yet. Chris Dodd has.
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May 14th 2008 at 6:24 am EDT
Strickland will not do!!
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May 14th 2008 at 4:33 am EDT
Craig --
That is a DEFINITE ***yes *** on looking at Ted Strickland. I agree!
If you list all the pros and cons.. there are countless pros!
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Thephilosopher
May 14th 2008 at 2:13 am EDT
I hope she doesn't win the popular vote though. That would be demoralizing.
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May 14th 2008 at 2:39 am EDT
Naaaahhh. It wouldn't be demoralizing at all. Obama (and HQ!) has run a top campaign full of integrity and on message. That is what sets him apart more than a small percentage of popular votes.
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May 14th 2008 at 2:44 am EDT
Hrrrrrrm, I don't know about that.
One in four of the people who voted for her said that race was their deciding factor, and around 30% of the people who voted for her said that if she wasn't the nominee they wouldn't vote in the General Election at all.
With numbers of that colour, I don't see much to brag about.
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Bill
May 14th 2008 at 6:33 am EDT
Hi Diane,
Remember something about West VA. Robert Byrd has been in the US Senate since he was first elected in 1958. 50 years!!! he wins by huge natgins. This same Robert Byrd was in the KKK and opposed every civil rights bill. Even recently, he used the "n" word on more than one occasion. And he is loved in his state. Part of that is that he brings home pork like no one else. Part of it is that people know what he thinks and they agree with him. Byrd is a racist, and I do not know why so many democrats have given him a pass for these many years.
Barack can and will win, but he must stop looking like it is over, because it is not.
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Ali
May 14th 2008 at 8:05 am EDT
West Virginia will go McCain in Nov. Clinton wouldn't will here either, she doesn't get it. Sen Byrd has numerous downsides but he was the only one standing up to Bush re: the Iraq War, and our other Sen. - Rockefeller endorsed Obama early and supported him throughout, incidentally Rockefeller won the nomination to retain his seat. What I'm saying is WV isn't just a bunch of racist hicks, we need to rise above this negativity and be the change - quit first with the us/them crap. Now let's get back to work.
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May 14th 2008 at 8:34 am EDT
Well, while I was in North Carolina, the subject of Jesse Helms came up more than once. My friend from North Carolina said that one could hardly find a person that ever admited voting for him. Bless his heart he was a total racist.. how sad, when people can not look at the creations that God has made and realize we are all alike and all come from the same place. But I truely believe the if you are a racist that you have to have a "ah ha" moment as did the composer of Amazing Grace. We must all pray to that end.
The political base of this election is different that others. The Obama campaign has made that possible. This is not like other years of elections. There is in place a change and if you get in the "trench" so to speak you can see that change. And, we can truly say..Yes We Can.
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Coracii - Counting The Days Until January 20th, 2009
May 14th 2008 at 8:43 am EDT
No, WV isn't just a bunch of racist hicks as you say, but there are a significant number living in the state. Looking at the exit polls, of the 67% of the vote that Clinton won, 81% of those said that race was a factor in their choice for Democratic candidate. That means that of the 353,864 voters that cast their ballot (and have been counted so far), 193,640 of them used the color of the candidates skin as a deciding factor. To me, this continues to prove that racism is alive and well in some areas and our message of change and bringing the government back to the people will not be received there since people won't see past the color of skin. The only part of these numbers that I care about is that they explain why Clinton was so popular there, her skin color.
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Lisa from Portsmouth, VA
May 14th 2008 at 9:34 am EDT
Bill, thank you for providing the information that is necessary to understand what WV is ALL ABOUT. The attitudes that persist in WV are outdated and unproductive. Hillary played the race card in reverse. Any informed citizen of that state voted their conscience, right or wrong. Barack Obama did not ignore WV, but it is hostile territory and his supporters in that state know it!
We must heal our land, WV included.
Everyone continue to be prayerful and enthusiastic about the coming of a new America woth Barack Obama at the lead.
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May 14th 2008 at 10:24 am EDT
Alison I agree. People need to stop being such sore loosers and bash and demean every group that doesn't vote for Barack.
Barack knew it wasn't going to be easy, but he doesn't resort to downing people, rather tries to find common ground and I think his supporters should take the high road also.
If I were from WV and I read some of the crap posted here I wouldn't want to be associated with this campaign or the candidate and I think EVERYONE needs to start thinking about how what they write on this blog could make someone else feel if these comments were known to others.
This is what the opponent wants to create: DIVISION, DIVISION, DIVISION.
When will people stop falling for it!
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May 14th 2008 at 11:13 am EDT
Barack was the first one to say it is not over, so I don't know what you mean by looking like it is over.
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May 14th 2008 at 7:37 am EDT
chocowolf,
if they don't vote in the fall that's ok. As long as they do not vote for McCain. We are engaging in a 6 month voters reg drive. we have to get the numbers up to help get pass those that don't want change.
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Nita**who is filled with delight that this day is here!
May 14th 2008 at 10:18 am EDT
Well that's a good thing, just stay home and we will replace them with new voters with new attitudes and at least they didn't say they will vote for McCain.
So all in all, not so discouraging.
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Balloons Across America
May 14th 2008 at 2:50 am EDT
you said it, and this is such a waste of time...
she's need's to be "made" to step down, because
we need to get on mc(you fill in the blank)'s ass
I'm starting to think that this crap is going to
keep up divided and we need to be ready for NOV!
Why are they letting her do this.... Why? It's
almost humiliating for her....
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Andyusa
May 14th 2008 at 2:58 am EDT
I can tell you from the view by most people, it IS EMBARRASSING- who would want a president who refuses because of her own ego a sensible and graceful solution.
This speaks about character ...
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Jewel4Obama
May 14th 2008 at 7:10 am EDT
Byrd is also a harse critic of the War. He voted AGAINST the war. He wrote this after Clinton and the others voted FOR the war...
"Today I weep for my country. I have watched the events of recent months with a heavy, heavy heart. No more is the image of America one of strong, yet benevolent peacekeeper. The image of America has changed. Around the globe, our friends mistrust us, our word is disputed, our intentions are questioned. Instead of reasoning with those with whom we disagree, we demand obedience or threaten recrimination."
He isn't a racist and admits making a mistake when he was young with the KKK and he has apologized over and over.
I live in Western MD, close to WV and the people are good, decent people. Most are poor and when they vote, they vote what they know, which is Clinton.
I get tired of all the WV basing. I love Obama but he lost, end of story. He's going to be our next President and I don't think it helps anything to beat up on good people in a very poor state.
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Balloons Across America
May 14th 2008 at 7:53 am EDT
wasn't bryd a "known" klansman at one time...?
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Balloons Across America
May 14th 2008 at 8:01 am EDT
I agree there are good people there. I know many people there... I think it was wise of Obama not to spent his precious time there for exactly the reasons that you mentioned...
It doesn't mean he doesn't care about the people there, but at this point, I think he pretty much has to pick his battles..
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Jason
May 14th 2008 at 4:17 am EDT
All precincts are have reported in WV.. looks like Obama will get 8 delegates 33-8= 25 left to get the majority.. to get those 25 delegates he would only need to win 25% of the 103 delegates from OR and KY!
Next Tuesday is going to be a very good day!!!
Go Obama!!
Jason
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Balloons Across America
May 14th 2008 at 4:39 am EDT
yea... thanks jason... GOOD LOOKING OUT!
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May 14th 2008 at 7:09 am EDT
CNN IS POLLING WHETHER SEN. OBAMA CAN WIN IN SWING STATES, VOTE NOW, VOTE NOW ON CNN AMERICAN MORNING
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Ken from Wagoner, OK
May 14th 2008 at 8:27 am EDT
Hillary Clinton is in MELT DOWN MODE !!!
WE ALL SHOULD BE SO PROUD OF MICHELLE OBAMA !!
SHE SAYS IT LOUD AND CLEAR NO CLINTON FOR VICE-PRESIDENT !!
"-GIVE EM HELL MICHELLE-" !!!!
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Ken from Wagoner, OK
May 14th 2008 at 8:33 am EDT
WE SHOUL ALL BE SO PROUD OF MICHELLE OBAMA !!
MICHELLE SAYS IT LOUD AND CLEAR, NO CLINTON IN THE OBAMA PRESIDENCY !!!
"-GIVE EM HELL MICHELLE-" !!!
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Walter from Jamaica, NY
May 14th 2008 at 9:45 am EDT
Can OBAMA still get hard core white blue collar workers to come to his side in a couple weeks?
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Lubna from Brookline, MA
May 14th 2008 at 12:38 pm EDT
I have been a supporter of Obama from the start but I'm very disappointed at his not campaigning in WVirginia and now Kentucky. I tell myself this maybe some kind of strategy but it comes across as arrogance. Does anyone have a clue why not?
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May 14th 2008 at 1:44 am EDT
I would like to ask that the tone of this new thread reflect that of Barack and Michelle -
unity,
tolerance,
hope,
bridging divides,
and
love for one another
The last threads were deplorable in their tone and content.
I hope a new page can be turned here and that the dialogue be positive and one that reflects the messages of Barack.
Good Night.
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jenmca
May 14th 2008 at 2:46 am EDT
"It's better to light a candle than to curse the darkness." - Eleanor Roosevelt.
Just post some positivity; let's not scold each other!! :)
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Balloons Across America
May 14th 2008 at 4:17 am EDT
???
I recently heard that Eleanor knew about her husband's lover's and encouraged it... hope thats
not true.... maybe that's what she meant when she said "it's better to light a candle than to curse the darkness".... ((LOL))
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Andyusa
May 14th 2008 at 3:07 am EDT
Thanks for reminding us!
After all that is what it is really about!
Peace to all
Andy, Seattle
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May 14th 2008 at 4:11 am EDT
I don't know what you're talking about?
I do know that My name is Kelly and not Barack so
that means I have a mind of my own.... I don't
think Barack and Michelle are into mind control.
People are voicing their opinions... like you
saying the last thread was "deplorable".. I'm
sure some would disagree but its okay...
Good Night
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May 14th 2008 at 7:11 am EDT
CNN IS POLLING WHETHER SEN. OBAMA CAN WIN IN SWING STATES, VOTE NOW, VOTE NOW ON CNN AMERICAN MORNING
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May 14th 2008 at 7:56 am EDT
I would love to smack mika right in her mouth for some of the "offensive" stuff she says... she's such a racist!!
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May 14th 2008 at 8:30 am EDT
Kellygirl
Do you sleep? Have you been posting all night?
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May 14th 2008 at 2:08 am EDT
10 reasons for Gore for VP!
This is old from a UK paper.
1. He brings experience to the ticket. Inexperience is Obama's greatest weak point.
2. He represented a southern state, so he would broaden the geographical base of Obama's campaign.
3. He would rouse the Democratic base, stoking their desire for revenge for 2000 and increasing the turnout on the Dem side. This would allow Obama to concentrate on swing voters.
4. He would bring lustre to the ticket, which could be important if facing John McCain. The Republican will not be able to boast a VP candidate who has won both an Oscar and a Nobel prize.
5. He is a good debater with an excellent track record in the VP debates.
6. He would push climate change up the agenda during the election, exposing Republican weaknesses.
7. He would bring the Democratic establishment behind Obama without him having to select Hillary.
8. He served in Vietnam, volunteering even though he opposed the war. This remains an issue and would certainly be one if McCain was the Republican candidate.
9. His record on terror and Iraq inside the Clinton White House was a good one. He would be able to deploy this to help Obama when foreign policy comes to the forefront.
10. His re-election would be exciting for the media and another first, helping the Obama bandwagon roll. No VP has run for a third term. But there is no law against it.
Obama/Gore or Obama/Webb
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08AMA!
May 14th 2008 at 2:29 am EDT
Gore won't be it.
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May 14th 2008 at 2:35 am EDT
Not that anyone asked ;) but I'd love to see Chuck Hagel as VEEP. Wouldn't that be something?
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Patty in Colorado
May 14th 2008 at 2:44 am EDT
Yeah, me too, on Chuck Hagel. But it might freak out too many dems for Barack to choose a republican for vp. But if Chuck Hagel isn't really retiring from all of politics, just his Senate seat, maybe he could be in the cabinet.
Anyway, Gore already said he's on a mission to save the planet and is totally not interested in the vp position.
Barack will have a lot of good people around him! He's gonna enrich all of their lives so much, just like he does in the Senate.
I hope Senator Byrd endorses Barack soon!
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♦ Gigi
May 14th 2008 at 2:47 am EDT
Not too sure on that. Anyone who's heard him speak - especially on the war - I don't think would have a problem. It certainly would speak to the "reach across the aisle" ability to get things done. Hagel would balance it out just about right.
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Balloons Across America
May 14th 2008 at 6:26 am EDT
I'm pretty sure I don't know who he is...
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Marie Hussein from New Mexico
May 14th 2008 at 2:57 am EDT
Chuck Hagel could be a credible choice. He is a moderate Republican. He is a Vietnam Vet. He is experienced. He is against the Iraq war. It would show bipartisanship.
In truth, there are several great choices for VP.
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Roberto
May 14th 2008 at 4:48 am EDT
My opinion:
He cannot select a running mate who is a Pro-Life Republican.
He would lose all of the Hillary democrats, all of them.
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Kristian "I Ain't Afraid of No GOPs" Idol
May 14th 2008 at 8:35 am EDT
There's more than enough Dems to pick from. Obama's not gonna pick a Republican for VP, good grief. Talk about taking "across the aisle" too far!
And in terms of the VP taking over if something happens to #1, a Republican isn't a... *ahem* safe choice.
I'm goin' for Sebelius --
Link
(profile at Wiki)
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Ken from Missouri
May 14th 2008 at 7:21 am EDT
I asked Senator Byrd to endorse Barack .
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In Obama I trust
May 14th 2008 at 7:28 am EDT
Good for you and us! Thank you for being pro-active.
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Thephilosopher
May 14th 2008 at 4:40 am EDT
I'm just not comfortable with a Republican in the number 2 spot. I think the Dems would be mad.
He did say he would have a cabinet that was not all democrat which means to keep his word, he has to pick at least one.
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Jewel4Obama
May 14th 2008 at 7:14 am EDT
Gore couldn't even win his own state.
Enough of the past!
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Karen from NJ for OBAMA...Looking to the future!! Obama/Biden in the White House '08-12!
May 14th 2008 at 7:42 am EDT
just voted
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Obama for President
May 14th 2008 at 2:18 am EDT
for me we did a good job that Obama did not spend much time in WV, because the popular vote was only arount 280,000. they were expecting about 600,000 and thought they will win by 80%. and then they could talk popular vote and it didn't happen. so to bad for them.
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Peggy
May 14th 2008 at 2:21 am EDT
That is good news!!!
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May 14th 2008 at 3:04 am EDT
Sorry for the hijack but we got two more Supers today, makes a total of 6.
SUPER DELEGATE ENDORSEMENTS
May 13, 2008
Rep. Joe Donnelly (IN)
DPL Roy Romer (CO) from Pelosi Club to Obama
Add-on Ray Nagin (LA
DNC Anita Bonds (DC)
Late night endorsements
DNC Awais Khaleel WI) college democrat
DNC Lauren Wolfe (MI) college democrat
Waiting for confirmation for Rep. Collin Peterson (MN) the last uncommitted Super from his state.
Waiting when Rep. Travis W. Children (MS) will come out.
-Jack Johnson (MD), a 'pledged delegate' has switched from Clinton to Obama
Significant move since it was Senator Clinton’s argument that “pledged” delegates have the right to switch candidate. It seems that Jack Johnson answered her call but not in the direction she wished for.
Last week Barack got 28 Super Delegates. Hillary got five and lost three. 28:2
This week Barack is at: 10:0.
Most States
Most Votes
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14 Super Delegates ahead
Most Money (thank you all)
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May 14th 2008 at 3:23 am EDT
YES
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May 14th 2008 at 5:33 am EDT
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May 14th 2008 at 5:34 am EDT
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BetGR - ENOUGH!!!!!
May 14th 2008 at 7:08 am EDT
Fantastic on the super delegates! I think we will see at least 6 more today!
Just because HRC won, it doesn't help her all that much except for bragging rights! Everyone knows yesterday was predicted, Barack is not upset. He knows and we know that he has 3 primaries (Oregon, Montana, South Dakota) where he will do very very well.
Let us look forward and be happy at what is happening! He will be our nominee and he will be POTUS!!!
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May 14th 2008 at 3:28 am EDT
Obama has won by greater margins than Hillary won tonight
In Idaho Obama won 80% - Hillary's 17%
In Kansas Obama won 74% - Hillary's 26%, so
The Clinton campaign is spinning an empty web
Fact: Obama is still ahead by approximately 553, 000 + after Tonight's Results and Obama will get that 147,000 back that he lost tonight
The Real Victory for Obama is the Low Voter Turn out
Nothing has shifted for Clinton, but Obama is that much closer getting approximately 7 - 9 delegates - putting him at about 136 more Delegates to win the Nomination
Obama will win the Nomination no later than May 31st, when the DNC votes on Michigan in Florida. They are going to set Michigan and Florida (59/69) Split/Florida ? He'll have more than enough for the nod before Puerto Rico.
Donna Brazil (Superdelegat/CNN Analyst) said they will decide that day and it will be televised most likely on CSPAN
Prediction: Game over by May.31st
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May 14th 2008 at 3:47 am EDT
Great post! Thanks for putting things into proper perspective.
Obama 08!!
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May 14th 2008 at 5:38 am EDT
Clinton Camp Passed Out 'Street Cash' In Hispanic, African American Districts:
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Clinton's Records Vanished After Warning of 'Very Serious' Problems:
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May 14th 2008 at 7:44 am EDT
Three things that irk me: Myanmar, West Virginia, and Hillary Clinton
The news lately have been primarily dominated by the coverage and outrage at the fact that Myanmar wont let relief aide into the country to help those affected by the recent cyclone. I am so tired of hearing about how they government of Myanmar is rejecting aide I am sorry for the people of Myanmar and I hope they get all the help they need, but Myanmar is a sovereign nation and can do as they see fit for their own people, we have to respect that. Most of all we need to get off our high horse. What about Katrina. How long did it take to get aide to those people? How long did it take to get the people out of the superdome? What was the attitude of our government towards the victims of Katrina? Didn’t we have deaths and hunger and abandonment in those days and weeks after Katrina? It bothers me how quickly people forget that not so long ago we had a serious tragedy in this country in the form of Katrina, and the government abandoned the people in one of our greatest cities. I would hate to say it was because of color, because there are many in the gulf region, black and white that still have not gotten relief, but in those crucial days when people were struggling for survival it was a majority of African Americans. We have no right to criticize another country about the way they are handling a disaster since we didn’t do so well when we were challenged in the same way.
Why are people acting like the voters of West Virginia are all that matters in this country. Do the media think that everyone in the country except WV is complete idiots? We know that the voters of WV are basing their votes on misinformation. How about the fact that 81% of the voters for Hillary Clinton thought race was an important factor? Why are we acting like there aren’t still prejudice people in this country. Any white person was going to beat Obama in West Virginia. Asking why Obama couldn’t win WV is insulting and asking a black man why he cant win the white racist vote is ridiculous.
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May 14th 2008 at 7:55 am EDT
I so agree with you on our governments response to Katrina. They act so high and mighty when they did something so similar to those poor victims of Katrina. Again the victims of the gulf coast have been forgotten by our government. It pisses me off to no end.
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May 14th 2008 at 7:06 am EDT
Good Morning Family...Yes, we do have to work hard. These people really want to hurt him, they are talking about giving Hillary the nomination. Just like that! We are going to have to let our voices be heard by every News station,
I think a petition letter should be sent out to let everybody know that taking the nomination from the winning candidate is not acceptable. Last night they tried to give excuses as to why this will work.
These people, MSM, have too much power over the decisions people make.It is critical for us to address them the way we addressed ABC after that debate. They will probably try to brush it off, but the SD's will have to hear us. I am sick of the fear technique!!!
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May 14th 2008 at 7:30 am EDT
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Ken from Wagoner, OK
May 14th 2008 at 8:23 am EDT
The media is playing the Clinton Card to the MAX !!
I am so proud of Michell Obama she is saying LOUD AND CLEAR NO CLINTON FOR VICE -PRESIDENT !!
"-GIVE EM HELL MICHELLE-" !!!!!!!
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Lisa from Portsmouth, VA
May 14th 2008 at 9:45 am EDT
Take Heart! Bill remind us in a later msg that WV is still one of the most racist states, if not the most racist (Senator Byrd). In 2008, it makes no sense that these backward attitudes prevail. It pains me to think that anyone would vote on the future of our nation based on the color of someone's skin. I suppose it's the same reasoning HRC has in prolonging a losing race. We must come together as ONE for the benefit of ALL.
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♥ Not.This.Time.Not.This.Year. ♥ Joyce from Canada ♥ ♥
May 14th 2008 at 1:31 am EDT
Congrats Carol!
To celebrate your first, would you mind helping me with my FR
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Yes You Can :)
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Carol Porter
May 14th 2008 at 1:33 am EDT
Joyce,
don't tell my husband, but I'm maxed out on how much I can donate -- so I too am trying to raise money from others.
I'll send my friends a link to your page, though. Good luck!
Yes We Can!
(and thanks for supporting Barack from Canada)
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♥ Not.This.Time.Not.This.Year. ♥ Joyce from Canada ♥ ♥
May 14th 2008 at 1:36 am EDT
Shhhh Shhhhhhh...promise I won't tell.
Thank you for your generous offer. I need all the help I can get.
Blessings my friend in Hope :)
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May 14th 2008 at 1:40 am EDT
shhhh, quiet.
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May 14th 2008 at 2:07 am EDT
don't tell my wife, that I am maxed out!
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May 14th 2008 at 2:58 am EDT
Don't count on us here in OH, the election is "fixed" The only way to fix it,is to pay the highest bidder...I will do what I can from the ground, but remember...Don't count on us in the General!!!
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Anna-Maria
May 14th 2008 at 3:28 am EDT
Good point! We must get people on the ground making sure this kin do thing doesn't happen in the election!!!
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Tim from Caldwell, NJ
May 14th 2008 at 3:48 am EDT
Was Ohio really fixed?! I was wondering about that! I didn't feel good about that primary at all. I also heard that New York was fixed and they're investigating it now as we speak!
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Dan (The anti-troll, a.k.a A thirty-year old who ocasionally looses his bearing so age is obviously not a factor...)
May 14th 2008 at 6:55 am EDT
Could have been...especially if they used the same Diebolt voting machines as in '04. On that subject...you might want to check out the documentary "Hacking Democracy".
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May 14th 2008 at 7:40 am EDT
I am from Ohio. I personally believe the election here was fix. We did not use the electronic ballots in the primary this year, we had the paper ballots that you have to color in the bubble of your choice. At the bottom of the ballot there is a section that could be torn off. It said do not remove or ballot is invalid. The poll workers told us to remove it and give that portion of the ballot to them. When we asked about it, we were told that they we were to remove it and not to worry about what it says at the bottom. I followed directions but felt uneasy about it. As the day went on I heard other people telling the same story about their polling experience at varoius locations. I thought maybe I had worried for no reason until my husband came home from voting (same location as me but 6 hours later). He was not told to remove the bottom section of his ballot. There is a lot of support for Obama here (Cleveland). But it won't matter if the polls are not on the up and up.
We all need to stay positive. Obama will be president. We can not let the media scare us. We knew HRC was going to hype up this victory and MSM would follow suit. But come next week we will be celebrating once again. Remember no matter how they try to spin it, there is no way for HRC to win this nomination without the SD reversing the will of the people. I do not see that happening. Be patient. We will succeed!
I just hope Obama spends more time in KY.
Obama'08
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May 14th 2008 at 8:51 am EDT
I'm originally from Ohio also, and though I do believe that there were still some massive voter irregularities (especially again in Cuyahoga County), I don't think there's a problem with the ballot tab. The state elections office released a statement that all ballots were counted, whether the tab was present or not, since there was confusion at the voting booths over it. Do I 100% believe them? Probably not. The bigger issue to me is that there continues to be 6-10 hour waits for voting in the inner city areas and 5 minute waits in the suburbs. That dramatically affected the 2004 votes in the GE as many traditional Democrats decided not to wait 8 hours to vote and stayed away. This needs to be fixed and soon or Ohio will turn into another Florida (where I live now and voting is never "clean").
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May 14th 2008 at 4:22 am EDT
I AGREE WITH YOU!
I'm in Ohio and I got a mailer today saying that I am registered as "unaffliated"... please tell me it doesn't mean what i think.... Who do I report this to?
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May 14th 2008 at 7:18 am EDT
screw that! we're gonna get this state! come out with me this summer and i will guarantee it...
never tell me i can't do something. how can you change the world if you can't change a few minds? come on, now...
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May 14th 2008 at 7:09 am EDT
FYI attached is links to my Barack Obama web sites.
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Zach Ritter (Austin, TX)
May 14th 2008 at 1:41 am EDT
Congrats. I was doing laundry. :)
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Carol Porter
May 14th 2008 at 1:56 am EDT
Thanks Zach. Since you're so often number 1, I wondered if you have a bot running to alert you and auto-submit the first reply.
However you do it, good job!
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Catherine of Riverdale, IL
May 14th 2008 at 2:04 am EDT
Did we run in Nebraska?
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jerry25
May 14th 2008 at 2:11 am EDT
I knew nothing about it, but apparently we narrowly won a primary there that didn't count. We had won a caucus back in February that did count.
Even though we didn't campaign we proved that the majority of White voters chose Obama in Nebraska!
We should be talking more about this.
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Doraine
May 14th 2008 at 2:34 am EDT
It was a low voter turnout...we had crowds for the caucus.
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♦ Gigi
May 14th 2008 at 2:36 am EDT
those pesky caucus states that have people interested in democracy participating...
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May 14th 2008 at 3:20 am EDT
I don't like those numbers in WV!!!, It is such an embarassing loss for us!
We have to campaign vigorously in Kentucky!!
STOP!! declaring victory when we haven't clinch the nomination yet!!
sorry for being kind of negative, but i really HATE it when BILLARY wins!!!!
PLEASE Donate!! if you can, and lets campaign hard,, and PLEASE!! Stop thinking about the General Election when BILLARY is still in the race!!!....GOD knows what she's capable off!!!
AGain..sorry for the negativity,., and lets finish this fight..so that we can finally stick a middle finger at BILLARY.... :)
Yes We Can,., and Yes we will
Obama all the way!!...to the white house!!!
And a very special thanks to all the OBAMA FAMILY!!!!
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Nov. 5th 2008 "Mission Accomplished," Ben from Monroe, NY HAPPY ELECTION DAY!!!!
May 14th 2008 at 3:43 am EDT
****************Obama***net*** **HRC***net
JAN
Iowa -------- ---16 - - 1 -----15
New Hampshire ---9 ----0 -------9--0
Nevada --------13------1 -----12
South Carolina -25 ---13 -----12
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TOTAL net JAN =========== 15
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FEB
Alabama --------27 ---- 2 -------25
Alaska -------- 9 ----- 5 --------4
American Samoa-1 -----------------2 --- 1
Arizona ------ 25 -------------- 31 --- 6
Arkansas ----- 8 --------------- 27 --- 19
California -- 166 ------------- 204 --- 38
Colorado ---- 36 ----- 17 ----- 19
Connecticut - 26 ----- 4 ------ 22
Delaware ---- 9 ----- 3 ------- 6
Democrats Abroad - 5 - 3 ------ 2
Georgia ---- 60 ----- 33 ------ 27
Idaho ----- 15 ----- 12 ------- 3
Illinois --- 104 --- 55 ------- 49
Kansas ---- 23 ----- 14 ------- 9
Massachusetts - 38 ----------- 55 ---- 17
Minnesota -- 48 ---- 24 ------ 24
Missouri --- 36 ---- 0 -------- 36 --- 0
New Jersey - 48 -------------- 59 ---- 11
New Mexico - 12 -------------- 14 --- 2
New York -- 93 -------------- 139 --- 46
North Dakota - 8 -- 3 -------- 5
Oklahoma -- 14 ------------- 24 ---- 10
Tennessee - 28 ------------- 40 ---- 12
Utah ------ 14 ---- 5 -------- 9
Louisiana - 34 -- 12 ------ 22
Nebraska - 16 --- 8 ------- 8
Washington - 53 -- 28 ------ 25
Virgin Islands - 3 - 3 ----- 0
Maine ----- 15 --- 6 ------ 9
District of Columbia 12-9 - 3
Maryland -- 42 --- 14 ---- 28
Virginia -- 54 --- 25 ---- 29
Hawaii --- 14 --- 8 ----- 6
Wisconsin - 42 --- 10 ---- 32
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TOTAL net FEB =========== 141
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****************Obama***net*** **HRC***net
MAR
Ohio --- 66 -------------- 75 --- 9
Rhode Island - 8 -------- 13 --- 5
Texas --- 99 --- 5 ----- 94
Vermont - 9 --- 3 ------ 6
Wyoming - 7 --- 2 ------ 5
Mississippi - 20 - 7 --- 13
Iowa --- + 8 --- 9 *** - 1
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TOTAL net MAR =========== 12
APR
Pennsylvania - 73 -- 85 -- 12
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MAY
Guam -- 2 -- 0 -- 2
Indiana - 34 - 38 -- 4
North Carolina 66 - 17 - 49
West Virginia 8 - - 20 - 12
TOTAL net = JAN - 15 - FEB - 141 - MAR - 12 = 168 - APR = 156 - MAY = 149
If it had counted, Florida's vote would have given 105 pledged delegates to Clinton and 67 to Obama, out of a total 185.
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Florida has 25 superdelegates.
TOTAL = net 111
The primary in Michigan would have given 73 delegates to Clinton, with 55 uncommitted out of a total 128 pledged delegates.
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It also has 28 superdelegates.
TOTAL = net 93
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Nov. 5th 2008 "Mission Accomplished," Ben from Monroe, NY HAPPY ELECTION DAY!!!!
May 14th 2008 at 5:24 am EDT
TOTAL remain Delegates
may 20 Kentucky 51
Oregon 52
jun 1 Puerto Rico 55
jun 3 Montana 16
South Dakota 15
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TOTAL 189 pledged delegates remain to be chosen
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May 14th 2008 at 3:50 am EDT
For tonight’s pessimists, nail biters, doubters and others frustrated by W. Virginia’s results her are the #’s
- Michigan and Florida included the Super Delegate count is: Obama 289 - Clinton 285
**** Barack is still ahead in Super Delegates ****
- Since last Monday 5/5/08 Barack got the support of 38 Super Delegates.
**** 4 1/2 Super a day ****
- Hillary got 5 Super Delegates and lost 3 giving her 2 more Supers.
**** 1/5 Super a day ****
- The final count in Ohio gave Barack +/- 50,000 extra popular votes.
**** 50,000 to deduct from Hillary's win tonight + 2 extra add-ons ****
So for tonight’s pessimists, nail biters, doubters and others frustrated I have good news:
**** OBAMA IS OUR DEMOCRATIC PARTY’S CANDIDATE ****
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May 14th 2008 at 6:31 am EDT
im curious where did u get the extra 50,000 vote from ohio for obama i dont know ?
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May 14th 2008 at 8:53 am EDT
About 100,000 provisional ballots were cast and counted.
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May 14th 2008 at 7:35 am EDT
With all the carping about race in WV by the media & turncoat Clinton, I hope that Obama considers a JFK-inspired series of speeches there & elsewhere that draws the line in the sand about Americans voting for a black candidate (as JFK did in 1960 about voting for a Catholic candidate). He should put the issue front and center, openly address it, challenge those who refuse to vote for a black candidate on principle, and then move on to issues of substance.
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May 14th 2008 at 7:41 am EDT
Received this morning..it expresses my thoughts also.....
The lines are becoming clearer. There is obviously collusion amongst the players here. Yes sir, the best politics money can buy. Evidently corruption has permeated the top most level of the federal government. Obama, it seems, is a fly in the ointment. A new kid on the block threatening to spoil the game. These are indeed dangerous times.
Obama, a champion of the people, is pulling down the curtain that has concealed the hidden princes and lords of infrastructure who's primary agenda has been one of perpetuating the game of power and control.
Suspicion is prudent, paranoia comes only from feeling disassociated and helpless. If Thomas doubts, let him touch the wound and see for himself. The American Dream has been meted out sparingly only to allay suspicion and discourage questioning the status quo. You will rise to the pinnacle of your fortune only if it is neither a threat to or can be exploited.
Obama has fast become a synonym for Organization and Brotherhood. The political power structure now is being revealed as it unravels is being held together with money and the more the dollar depreciates, the weaker the structure becomes. The princes are blatantly more desperate to keep their hold on the reins than ever before.
What is the best protection for all of us is to stay educated, share knowledge and perception, and be personal friends. If we can't trust each other, we will only be positioning ourselves to replace their corrupt infrastructure with one of our own.
I will not be like them even if it means walking this earth alone.
Eugene Conway...Oregonians for Obama..
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May 14th 2008 at 1:27 am EDT
congrats Carol!!
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S v K
May 14th 2008 at 1:28 am EDT
i'm thinking nice thoughts ;-)
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Carol Porter
May 14th 2008 at 1:30 am EDT
that was fun, thanks!
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May 14th 2008 at 1:28 am EDT
Man, closest ever!
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May 14th 2008 at 1:28 am EDT
There were at least 2 supers today (the college ones), some from Ohio I hear as well.
Can we fix that Chris.
Yes we can
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Dee K
May 14th 2008 at 1:44 am EDT
2 add on from Ohio as I know it
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May 14th 2008 at 1:57 am EDT
I thought the 2 from Ohio were pledged delegates that were the result of finally counting provisional ballots.
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May 14th 2008 at 1:28 am EDT
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May 14th 2008 at 1:30 am EDT
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Wear T-Shirts and use Bumper Stickers for Obama (Community Service)
Event title says it all. Go to the upper right hand corner of this page now to the Obama store and order something you like with his logo as well as a few bumper stickers. Advertisement for Obama by free will is one of the easiest and best ways to send a message out to fellow Americans for this campaign.
If you have already donated then also remember the proceeds from buying at the store here also go into the Obama campaign and it will leave you with something to remember this year by. Again this is also free advertisement for Barack Obama and in some ways I feel it sends more of a message then sometimes commercials and billboards can do.
So please support this event by advertising for Barack. It is one of the simplest ways you can support him and who knows; you may get people to look into this campaign and vote for him this November without you lifting a finger.
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May 14th 2008 at 2:19 am EDT
Funny. I'm sleepy. I thought I saw Wet T-shirt instead of wear T-shirt and I thought "Oh no...let's not go there."
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May 14th 2008 at 1:31 am EDT
Now that Obama is our presumptive nominee, we need to focus on beating John McShame, and this is how.
1)Obama MUST pick a strong running mate that helps reinforce his message of change. Adding Hillary works AGAINST that message, as does Wes Clark, since that would be an obvious move to counter McShame's foreign policy "strength". We need a governor - I'd suggest Sebelius or Kaine.
2)Obama should host town halls and debates with John McShame, that way there is an obvious and clear contrast with Obama. McShame will show his true colors with his short temper, and his inexperience with the economy, healthcare, jobs, and gas prices.
3)We need to GOTV in ALL states - that's right, ALL 50 states. And when we GOTV, we've been able to close the gap in many states that Hillary was supposed to win, I believe we can do the same against McSame.
4)Ignore the MSM. While they will be partially focused on McShame, they will continue to attack Obama until the election, trying to paint McShame as an experienced military hero, and Obama as an inexperienced, one-term Senator that doesn't know what he is doing.
5)Concentrate on getting Hillary voters, and cutting into McShame's base of voters. We will need all the voters we can get in order to get Barack Obama into the WH in November.
6)Remember: YES WE CAN!!! EVEN WHEN IT ISN'T EASY!!!
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May 14th 2008 at 2:26 am EDT
He needs to go back to smiling. I saw him yesterday and he looked good after some sleep.
I think he needs to pick his white VP right away so he/she can campaign all summer.
AND NO...Richardson is NOT an option. You people get real. A black person and a Hispanic on the same ticket the same year? Not everyone is as open as us.
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May 14th 2008 at 2:31 am EDT
Unfortunately, you are right
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08AMA!
May 14th 2008 at 2:32 am EDT
I think the race thing carries a ton more weight than gender.
It will have to be a white man/woman
Sebelius or Kaine.
I think both kind of hushed the idea but that's a typical move.
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Lola317
May 14th 2008 at 2:41 am EDT
I agree. Adding Sebelius will simply help to win over Hillary supporters.
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Patty in Colorado
May 14th 2008 at 2:52 am EDT
I think we will be able to watch Senator Obama conduct himself with his usual brilliance, while McCain visibly melts before us.
If McCain happens to lose sight of his teleprompters, he will be in serious trouble.
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Balloons Across America
May 14th 2008 at 3:42 am EDT
??? I heard hillary was really a man, so does this still apply??? LLOL LOL
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Balloons Across America
May 14th 2008 at 4:43 am EDT
... funny, sad and true...
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Catherine of Riverdale, IL
May 14th 2008 at 7:22 am EDT
Thanks for your post. It makes quite a lot of sense, considering the scare tactic about taking the nomination from him. He is the best candidate and the presumptive nominee, but we still have to keep fighting hard for him.
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May 14th 2008 at 1:31 am EDT
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May 14th 2008 at 1:31 am EDT
The Republicans are sitting on the connection between Hillary and Jack Abramoff...just waiting for a chance to get some payback for the defeats in 2006.
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♥ Not.This.Time.Not.This.Year. ♥ Joyce from Canada ♥ ♥
May 14th 2008 at 1:45 am EDT
please let go of HC...she is history, it's just a matter of time...Barack is on his way to the nomination and he needs all the support we can give him to get there. let's focus our energy on something we can control:
Call...Call...Call...Call
Donate...Donate...Donate...Don ate
GOTV...GOTV...GOTV...GOTV
Peace :)
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Leno - TX Delegate
May 14th 2008 at 1:56 am EDT
Heh, I never considered Hillary viable to begin with, nothing to let go. However when dealing with her followers suppressed information such as the Clinton-Abramoff-Han ties and money trail is very useful in advocating Barack on the grounds of general election electability.
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May 14th 2008 at 1:32 am EDT
I'm off to sweet dreams of victories for Obama and our country! Maybe one or two of me winning a spot as National Delegate this Saturday at our State Convention!
Night everyone!
Suzanne
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Jeff
May 14th 2008 at 1:34 am EDT
Well good luck to you
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The Extreme aka Allen Norfolk, VA Navy Sailor. Really Proud member of the Barack Obama/American People Party!!!
May 14th 2008 at 1:34 am EDT
goodnight in the 303 (I'm originally from Colorado Springs)... I'll be going to bed too, as soon as I get off work...
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May 14th 2008 at 1:33 am EDT
Well not right now (its 1030) but tomorrow and the next day etc.
They only have until the 15th to mail (although they can drop them off until Tues).
For anyone scared to call the people there are incredibly nice (as have been almost all states), and I have to tell you based on my calls (and the few folks I know that leave there) we will be winning big. It is at least 2 to 1 when Ive called.
Its easy you just have to pick up the phone.
Lets make sure that next Tues we pass that threshold of majority of pledged delegates won. Once that is done any superdelegate angst will go away.
Cant wait until next week.
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May 14th 2008 at 1:40 am EDT
I read that over 271,000 have already mailed in their ballots. Oh and a poll came out today showing Senator Obama ahead in Oregon by 20 pts: 55 to 35. Lets turn Oregon into a blowout.
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AWE KOOTA BILXPAAK KOOXSHIIWIASH, which translates to "he who helps all people of the land."
May 14th 2008 at 2:20 am EDT
I also heard that campaign volunteers can collect ballots from house to house... How secured is that?
Does anyone know about this?
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May 14th 2008 at 3:11 am EDT
Yes, that's happening. Not much, though; we Oregonians are known for a healthy suspicion and I'm one of 'em. I wouldn't give my ballot to someone else to take in for me.
So basically, the campaign volunteers are offering it as a convenience to handicapped people, indigents and the elderly.
And yes, it's legal. The state campaign checked with the Secretary of State before they gave us the go-ahead.
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May 14th 2008 at 6:21 am EDT
In Ohio, it appeared that the poll attendants were more hostile to the white voter's because they were voting for Barack.... they were telling a lot of the students that they could not vote because of some out of state rule... it was terrible!!
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May 14th 2008 at 1:37 am EDT
I like to say thank you to all the SD's that endorsed our next POTUS today. Congrats to Mr. Childers on his win tonight.
Everyone have a good night an Obama will prevail.
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May 14th 2008 at 1:37 am EDT
I just want to state how proud I am of the DCCC for hitting the GOP hard in this election cycle. They can dish out the dirt, but they can't take it. We have to start playing HARDBALL WITH THESE REPUBLICANS, and it's starting to work. We have won 3 HIGHLY CONTESTED SEATS, EVEN WITH THE NEGATIVE ADS ON REV. WRIGHT. This movement has taken hold, and there is no stoppin' this train. The DEMS ARE THE BOMB in 08', and we are gonna take the white house in a LANDSLIDE. People want to bash OBAMA, BUT THIS BLACK MAN HAS ACCOMPLISHED SOME EXTRAODINARY THINGS, AND HE'S PROVEN THAT HE WILL BE GRAVY FOR THE DOWN TICKET. WE LOST IN wva, BUT LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE, LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE ALL ACCOMPLISHED AT THE GRASS ROOTS LEVEL. IT'S AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!I MEAN HE IS BEATING THE CLINTON MACHINE, MANY PEOPLE WOULD HATE TO ADMIT THIS, BUT OBAMA HAS ALREADY CHANGED THIS COUNTRY!!!!!!!
Hillary Clinton's "FUZZY MATH" in DELEGATES? |
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May 14th 2008 at 1:40 am EDT
What is up with Hillary's fuzzy math in changing the total delegate count?
The goal was 2,025.
Now, Clinton is changing it to 2,209?
Is she just like Bush and his fuzzy math?
Is she just like Bush in changing the goalline?
It reminds me of Bush changing the goals in the war in Iraq. First, it was WMDs, then to liberate the Iraqis, then to oust the terrorists?
Will Hillary state the goal is 2,209 as Obama gets close to 2,025, and then change her mind again if Obama gets near to 2,209???
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May 14th 2008 at 1:43 am EDT
... with MI & FL it's 2209
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May 14th 2008 at 2:05 am EDT
2209 won't happen (in practical terms) if enough SD come forward before May 31. Another 45-75 should do it.
I think a decision can be put off until after Obama gets 2025 and probably MI/FL pledged delegates will each get 1/2 vote and MI will be split 50-50 since he wasn't on the ballot. The net effect will be that he would need another 15-20 SD or we should look at it like we need 2045 for the nomination.
For the benefit of party unity, I can see the majority of the MI/FL SD side with Barack, just to get this over.
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May 14th 2008 at 4:28 am EDT
I agree.
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May 14th 2008 at 5:35 am EDT
With Florida, and Michigan, Obama is still ahead net 93 pledged delegates.
TOTAL net = JAN - 15 - FEB - 141 - MAR - 12 = 168 - APR = 156 - MAY = 149
If it had counted, Florida's vote would have given 105 pledged delegates to Clinton and 67 to Obama, out of a total 185.
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Florida has 25 superdelegates.
TOTAL = net 111
The primary in Michigan would have given 73 delegates to Clinton, with 55 uncommitted out of a total 128 pledged delegates.
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It also has 28 superdelegates.
TOTAL = net 93
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May 14th 2008 at 2:52 am EDT
Fear not -- she has "lost her bearings," to quote our Fearless Leader. :) She is not a "statesman"; there's no deep grace in her. She only knows how to "fight." We'll just have to wait this out.
Even Mike Huckabee is making fun of her (saw him on CNN today cracking jokes about how delusional she is). When HE is mocking you, you know you've gone off the deep end!!
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May 14th 2008 at 1:40 am EDT
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Poll: Obama trouncing Clinton in Oregon
Illinois senator leading former first lady 55-35
A bit more than a week away from Oregon’s May 20 primary, Barack Obama has amassed a nearly insurmountable lead in the Democratic presidential race, according to statewide polling conducted by Portland’s Davis, Hibbitts & Midghall Inc. for the Portland Tribune and FOX 12 News.
The U.S. senator from Illinois leads Hillary Clinton by a commanding 55 percent to 35 percent margin among likely Democratic voters, and even leads among women voters who ordinarily tilt toward Clinton, said Tim Hibbitts of Davis, Hibbitts & Midghall. The poll was conducted May 8-10, during and after visits to Oregon by Obama and Clinton.
“Barring a disaster, Barack Obama’s going to win Oregon, and he may win it very big,” said Hibbitts, one of Oregon’s most respected nonpartisan pollsters. “This is the widest lead that I’ve seen of any poll for Obama in Oregon,” he said. “I’d be shocked if Obama didn’t win here.”
We will bring it home for you Obama!! Wooootttaaahhhhhhhh
OBAMA '08!!
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May 14th 2008 at 2:20 am EDT
The poll didn't say how Obama was doing among those who Already voted. In the PPP poll, it also didn't say how Obama was doing among those who already voted.
In the SUSA poll, Obama was ahead by only 1% among the 30+ % who already voted, but by 20% among those who hadn't yet turned in their ballot.
Hopefully there will be more polls coming out with better statistics on who people voted for.
Does anyone know When Obama is going back to Portland, where most of the OR voters live? He has to go there in next few days before most people would have voted.
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May 14th 2008 at 2:33 am EDT
One Oregonian on her way to bed...
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I still cant get over this.. |
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May 14th 2008 at 1:41 am EDT
At his town hall meeting today in MISSOURI someone asked obama about whether Hilary will be on his ticket this fall. Obama said that its premature to talk about Veep that he hasnt won the nomination and then he told the people of MISSOURI at the end to VOTE FOR HIM IN GENERAL ELECTION LMAO!!!
He's got to come up with a much more clever way to dodge the Veep question than that.
Carol
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May 14th 2008 at 1:45 am EDT
I think a simple "NO" would suffice.
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May 14th 2008 at 1:50 am EDT
I think he's being a gentleman and a very good diplomat. There is no reason to antagonize her supporters. We need them with us in November. That's the difference between him and HC and the reason he is winning
just my 2 cents, peace all
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May 14th 2008 at 1:51 am EDT
My two cents on who Barack should pick for V.P., Christopher Dodd.
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May 14th 2008 at 2:47 am EDT
I think Chris Dodd IS his personal frontrunner at this time although Jim Webb has potential to get the most votes for Obama and help him win swing states.
It is ashamed that the media isn't even putting Dodd on its VP lists. Does anyone have a Media list that includes Dodd, much less near the top of the list?
People should realize how Obama thinks. He wants a VP who he respects and vica verca. There must be good chemistry between the two. And as Obama already said, he wants a VP who is good on "policy" that he is isn't so good with. Dodd meets those requirements perfectly and he is liked by the over age 50 Democrats who Obama is doing poorly with. He speaks fluent Spanish to help with the Latino vote, which isn't likely to go for a 3rd term of George Bush.
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May 14th 2008 at 3:17 am EDT
Chris Dodd would be a good choice, too.
Right now, my Veep choices are (in order)
1. Bill Richardson
2. Kathleen Sebelius
3. Christopher Dodd
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May 14th 2008 at 7:19 am EDT
I would recommend Webb or Hagel as Barack's VP.
OBAMA 08!!!!
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jerry25
May 14th 2008 at 2:24 am EDT
What is almost certainly going to happen is that a deal will be made so that Hillary says she doesn't want to be VP. Barack could say that she asked her but she said NO.
That is the only may to handle the situation without insulting her supporters. The "deal" could include Barack doing some fundraisers to help retire her debt and maybe ask us to contribute to a "separate" fund.
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Patty in Colorado
May 14th 2008 at 3:02 am EDT
Barack doesn't seem like the kind of guy who makes those kind of deals.
He just won't ask her, plain and simple.
But in not asking, he will probably tell her very diplomatically and compassionately, why.
He already said what he's gonna do about Hillary.
He said something like he was going to talk to Hillary and make sure she was ok with the outcome and that she felt positive about things, going forward, or something to that effect.
However he said it, he conveyed that he was not going to leave her squalling in the dust.
In fact, I suspect that Senator Obama will treat Hillary better in her losing than any man has treated her in her wins. He is a gentleman first and foremost.
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May 14th 2008 at 1:47 am EDT
I agree and I said the same. He sounded cranky too. People here are so emotionally attached to Barack they often don't see it.
The day Wright called Obama a "politician" I pointed Obama had to cut all ties. I was attacked here for playing along the MSM.
Thank God he has the good political judgment...
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May 14th 2008 at 3:18 am EDT
Rev.Wright saying that Barack was a politician was accurate. But Barack doesn't play the game the old way. He's changing the game. But he still has to play it when he's practicing politics, which after all is similar to any kind of practice, medical, law, religious, tennis...
But the fact remains...you gotta know your audience.
Every group has their language, their lingo, their code words, stuff that people say that communicates a recognizable frame of reference. Everything is about language and code words.
That's all Rev. Wright meant. He DIDN'T mean that Barack was lying to one group to appease the other. Barack doesn't seem to do that. He seems to be truthful to everyone.
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May 14th 2008 at 1:48 am EDT
I'm repeating my message about "change" and how we should talk about it. Most people just don't get it (Well, WE do, but others don't.)
Every candidate promises to bring change.
First, acknowledge the problems - the ones we can all agree on - the economy, health care, care for veterans, education, our status in the world, terrorists, etc.
Then explain that in order to accomplish anything in those areas - in order to solve the problems, we're going to have to CHANGE the way Washington works. We're going to have to CHANGE people's minds about getting involved and writing to their congressmen/women. We're going to have to CHANGE the viewpoint that if it comes from across the aisle, I have to vote against it. We are going to have to get personally involved. It won't happen overnight, and it won't be easy. But it's not impossible. We just have to CHANGE our attitudes.
And CHANGE isn't easy. That's why we need a leader who will inspire the best in us and show us how to change things. We need a leader who is willing to look for new solutions. A leader who can listen to more than one side of an argument. A leader who wants EVERYONE to be involved in the decision-making process ... and in the work that has to be done after the decisions are made. A leader who doesn't decide in private what's to be done and then tells us about it - a leader who involves us in the process and lets us know what's going on. A leader who will tell us WHY something isn't going to work and WHO is working on the problem and WHAT they are doing.
I believe that Barack Obama is that leader.
Mike Hucabee once said that people don't want someone to fix the carburator (sp) - they want someone to drive the car. Obama not only will drive the car - he has asked us to get IN the car and come along for the ride. And what a ride it's going to be.
My Republican friends are still thinking, but they've stopped asking me what CHANGE means.
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May 14th 2008 at 1:42 am EDT
Important constructive criticism from someone on the ground in W Va. moving toward the General.
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Sounds a bit odd?
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Dee K
May 14th 2008 at 1:53 am EDT
Some places in Ohio were just as it was described there, I had out of town volunteers that worked with more enthusisiam than the local volunteers
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May 14th 2008 at 3:40 am EDT
I voted in downtown Ohio and the people working
there were down right mean... to everybody!!
White and Black people were talking and laughing
together... the media was there and it was great
outside.. but when you got inside, it was total
bitterness and confusion... So many people were
turned away... AND I got a card in the mail today
saying that I was registered as "unaffliated"..
This reminds me to find out what this is about??
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May 14th 2008 at 1:44 am EDT
I guess I don’t feel the greatest tonight. I wonder if the results would have been different if Sen. Obama had personally campaigned in the state as he has done in other states. Normally when he campaigns hard in a state, the results start getting closer. I hope the same thing does not happen in Kentucky.
When listening to Sen. Clinton’s speech, so much of it sounded like a person getting his / her foot in the door. And she is the ultimate as a sales person. I realize that it is almost impossible for Sen. Clinton to catch Sen. Obama in pledged delegates. Even though the math is not in her favor, will this alter the direction of the super-delegates to the point that it reverses the trend and give Sen. Clinton a chance at the nomination?
I heard the argument again from the Clinton supporters that it is Sen. Obama’s fault that re-votes did not take place in Michigan and Florida and because of that, the original votes should stand. I find that argument awful. In addition, those re-votes were not set up in a fair way.
I find the direction of the discussions this evening very troubling.
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Hockeygirl 4 Obama
May 14th 2008 at 1:54 am EDT
Len (((hug))))
Chuck Todd said today that Senator Obama even agreed to go with giving Clinton 69 and him taking 59 in Michigan, but the Clinton campaign wouldn't go for it; wanting it all.
Not sure where you heard that it was Senator Obama's doing at all. That's not true!
Always remember what ClinTON initially pledged from the get-go.. Watch this Meet the Press clip:
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Len Larsen
May 14th 2008 at 2:36 am EDT
Thank you for pointing to the clip.
It is items like trying to wiggle out of the agreement they signed onto that so frustrates me about politics.
Perhaps that why the general tone of Sen. Obama has been such a breath of fresh air and why this is the first candidate in my 40+ years of voting that has truly thrilled me.
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Kristian "I Ain't Afraid of No GOPs" Idol
May 14th 2008 at 9:28 am EDT
I've been looking for a clip like that!
Everyone agreed that MI and FL wouldn't count before the primaries, and Clinton is just trying to change the rules in the 9th inning/4th quarter/3rd period.
So, did Hillary actually SIGN a pledge? Can't Dean just whip out a photocopy and say, "NO. Period."?
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Brian S.
May 14th 2008 at 1:56 am EDT
you'll feel better tomorrow...most of the media has said this means nothing and changes nothing...rumor has it we'll announce huge fundraising numbers and more supers tomorrow...NO worries!!!
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May 14th 2008 at 4:15 am EDT
For tonight’s pessimists, nail biters, doubters and others frustrated by W. Virginia’s results her are the #’s
-With Michigan and Florida included the Super Delegate count is: Obama 289 - Clinton 285 ½.
**** Barack is still ahead in Super Delegates ****
- Since last Monday 5/5/08 Barack got the support of 38 Super Delegates.
**** 4 1/2 Super a day ****
- Hillary got 5 Super Delegates and lost 3 giving her 2 more Supers.
**** 1/5 Super a day ****
- The final count in Ohio gave Barack +/- 50,000 extra popular votes.
**** 50,000 to deduct from the popular vote Hillary won tonight + 2 extra add-on delegates ****
So for tonight’s pessimists, nail biters, doubters and others frustrated I have good news:
**** OBAMA IS OUR DEMOCRATIC PARTY’S CANDIDATE ****
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May 14th 2008 at 4:55 am EDT
trust me he did the right thing... we are going
to win this!! Just her big mouth makes you want
to hollar!! ((I believe that's a song by Marvin Gaye))..smile. feel better!!
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May 14th 2008 at 1:44 am EDT
You have won us with your high-minded thought-out, nuanced & deeply personal approach to the issues that face this country.
But you already have our support.
It is now time to walk out and start HAMMERING John McCain: "A vote for John McCain is a vote for more wars, fewer jobs, more foreclosures and deeper recession".
Again and Again and Again and Again.
They are trying to make this election about your character. The answer is not to defend yourself. Don't play in their field. Attack them where it hurts.
"A vote for John McCain is a vote for more wars, fewer jobs, more foreclosures and deeper recession"
PERIOD.
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Patty in Colorado
May 14th 2008 at 3:31 am EDT
Barack doesn't seem to be the "hammering" kind of guy. He is diplomatic, clever, and extremely insightful.
Maybe I'm naive, but I think that John McCain won't require "hammering" or any kind of attack. He's extremely weak. Freakin' half (or more) of the Republican party isn't even behind him.
Point One, no matter how you look at it, he is for the war, for war in general, for solving problems with war, any way you say it, he does not represent any kind of realistic solution to the horrendous tragedy that is happening in Iraq because of our occupation there.
With something like 80% of our nation opposed to the continuance of the war in Iraq, John McCain does not stand a chance in November, and all the Republicans know it.
But no matter what they bring up to test our candidate, it will shrivel in comparison to what has happened under the recent Republican administration, to which John McCain is inextricably bonded.
I am totally confident that Barack Obama will take a very successful approach towards McCain.
Has anyone thought of the possibility that McCain might not actually be the nominee? He's only the presumed nominee right now. His party hasn't actually elected him.
When the FEC gets back in gear (the Senate is working on that right now - write your Senator!), John McCain will be coming under their floodlight, so to speak, about his campaign finance violations, as will Hillary Clinton.
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May 14th 2008 at 1:44 am EDT
2 more SDs |
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May 14th 2008 at 1:45 am EDT
Looks like we should have added two more SDs to tuesdays total (only one actually counting) in Added DNC Awais Khaleel (WI) and DNC Lauren Wolfe (MI) for Obama. I am glad to see a fellow michigander showing their support for barack. My guess is we will here about these tomorrow since they weren't posted today!
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May 14th 2008 at 1:46 am EDT
Alright my last gift of the night to ya all~
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The world IS changing.. we have a leader
who has empowered us to honestly help it to change~
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Abomanite from brooklyn
May 14th 2008 at 1:52 am EDT
Senator Obama must compete much morein Kentucky because her winning him 65% to 26% and running up her popular vote total does not look good for senator Obama, he should try to hold her down to at least half. I am not afraid, but the total I do not like.
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May 14th 2008 at 1:48 am EDT
POTUS Barack Obama and I are #44 !!!!!
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May 14th 2008 at 1:49 am EDT
College Democrats Superdelegates Lauren & Awais endorse Barack Obama.
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May 14th 2008 at 1:49 am EDT
College Democrats Superdelegates Lauren & Awais endorse Barack Obama.
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2 SUPERDELEGATES |
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Arnaud
May 14th 2008 at 1:49 am EDT
College Democrats Superdelegates Lauren & Awais endorse Barack Obama.
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Hockeygirl 4 Obama
May 14th 2008 at 1:56 am EDT
Yay!
I looked over at the 2008 Democratic Convention website, and they've already added the two.
Sheesh, that website is on the ball! :o)
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Phil in CA
May 14th 2008 at 2:01 am EDT
When did they officially announce and make the video?
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May 14th 2008 at 1:49 am EDT
Yes we can!
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Dricore radio call-in show on WCSB tonight |
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Randolph, in Lexington KY
May 14th 2008 at 1:51 am EDT
The Dricore show is on right now on WCSB 89.3 FM in Cleveland. You can tune in by going to http://www.wcsb.org and click on Listen Live.
Was Bill on stage tonight with her? |
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Admajorem Deigloriam
May 14th 2008 at 1:52 am EDT
was Bill there tonight with her? because I did not see him like last week behind her...that says a lot to me in so many words
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Abomanite from brooklyn
May 14th 2008 at 1:53 am EDT
he was in montana and chelsea is in puerto rica.
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Mr. NOBEL President Obama & Vice-President Biden I Trust and RESPECT!
May 14th 2008 at 3:53 am EDT
Bill was slimming his way around her in Oregon last night. I don't pay much attention to him other than what's on are local news after the fact.
MANY THANKS TO ALL THE WV OBAMA VOLUNTEERS AND STAFF!!! |
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Jean from Lake Elsinore, CA
May 14th 2008 at 1:53 am EDT
I just wanted to give a special shout-out to all the workers for the Obama campaign in WV.
What a great job!! and we thank you!!!
I used to live there many, many moons ago and I can tell you that there are a lot of wonderful people in WV who want to see change. They call it 'almost heaven' because those mountains are so enormous and so high. And they are SOOOO Beautiful in the fall!
I believe that we can win WV in November once the fine people of WV get to know Senator Obama.
So, now it's onward to Oregon and Kentucky.
We traveled to Indiana to help and now we're going to Oregon.
If you live close to either of these states, please drive in or fly in to volunteer at a BO headquarter.
Getting people to the polls is so crucial right now.
So, keep sending out good thoughts and prayers for Senator Obama, his family and his staff that work so tirelessly.
Don't forget to make calls or donate if you can't travel to the upcoming states.
THANKS ALL AND GOD BLESS!!!!
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Mike W
May 14th 2008 at 8:07 am EDT
I still contend that there are a lot of good people in West Virgina. Two of my grandparents are buried in St. Albans. My parents grew up in St. Albans. My late Grandfather would have and did help anyone in need of any race. He definitely judged people by the content of their character. I am even more proud of him after yesterday. That said, I'm disappointed in West Virginia today. I've never been more happy in my life that my parents moved to Illinois and raised me here. Thank you to the good people that worked so hard for Sen. Obama and even those in WV who participated in the process and voted for HRC. We hope to win their support for November because there can not be 4 more years of a Bush republican in office.
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David from Los Angeles, CA
May 14th 2008 at 1:53 am EDT
I don't know how a newspaper from the UK would have this, but if it is true then tomorrow should be interesting.
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A Dork Who Prefers to Act Instead of React
May 14th 2008 at 1:58 am EDT
I felt that to be the case. Hopefully this report is accurate! Thanks for the link, David!
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JakeBarnes
May 14th 2008 at 2:03 am EDT
I just asked about this on the previous thread. I believe this is exactly how things will play out. The Campaign would have to have private assurances from enough Supers in order to comfortably declare victory after Oregon next week.
WE ARE THE ONES WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR
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May 14th 2008 at 2:12 am EDT
This is my favorite part ,
The strategist said Mr Obama has "no intention" of making Mrs Clinton his running mate, but that he is prepared to offer an olive branch to her supporters by seating delegates from Michigan and Florida, won by Mrs Clinton but excluded because they broke party rules.
THAT is the best news i have heard all day.
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Patrice from Gardena, CA
May 14th 2008 at 2:21 am EDT
Here, Here...No joint ticket.
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Len Larsen
May 14th 2008 at 2:55 am EDT
That "olive" branch scares me.
There would have to iron clad assurances that it would not change the outcome prior to them being seated.
I'm sorry, but I am not very trusting in this political world. This is especially true as I listen to the discussions this evening.
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Patty in Colorado
May 14th 2008 at 3:45 am EDT
One thing that was really encouraging to me, regarding the vice-president slot, was when Senator Ted Kennedy got right out there and said some very definitive things about why Senator Clinton would not be on the ticket.
That was a SIGN to me that the campaign hears us and that they aren't going to revert back to the "old politics" by having Clinton anywhere near the Oval Office, East Wing, West Wing, or any wing.
Just lurking again tonight! |
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May 14th 2008 at 1:59 am EDT
To sit patiently with a yearning that has not yet been fulfilled, and to trust that, that fulfillment will come, is quite possibly one of the most powerful "magic skills" that human beings are capable of. It has been noted by almost every ancient wisdom tradition.
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Dale (Man-in-the-Kitchen) in Idaho
May 14th 2008 at 2:01 am EDT
Thank you.
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Obama08NOW
May 14th 2008 at 2:03 am EDT
:)
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Dale (Man-in-the-Kitchen) in Idaho
May 14th 2008 at 1:59 am EDT
For a bit of perspective -
Here in Idaho Barack won in delegates 15 to 3.
That's +11.
Remember, we had several huge wins in nearly all white states out here in the west, so let's not sweat this too much, okay.
We've had some very fine dedicated supporters in every state, even the ones we've lost. We have some great supporters in OH and PA for example. We'll be fine in the GE.
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Dale (Man-in-the-Kitchen) in Idaho
May 14th 2008 at 2:04 am EDT
Sorry!
I mean +12.
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Hockeygirl 4 Obama
May 14th 2008 at 2:06 am EDT
Kudos to you guys in Idaho!
As far as the states go... that's been his BIGGEST win yet at 80%! Now those are some BIG taters! LOL!
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Dale (Man-in-the-Kitchen) in Idaho
May 14th 2008 at 2:12 am EDT
Up here in the north it's all wheat and lentils, but, yep, them's big'uns. LOL
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Catherine of Riverdale, IL
May 14th 2008 at 2:01 am EDT
I was just watching MSNBC and Abrams took a call from Nebraska, and called it the forgotten state. Did Obama run in Nebraska?
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Hockeygirl 4 Obama
May 14th 2008 at 2:04 am EDT
We initially won Nebraska 68 to 32..
Not sure what exactly is going on there tonight.. :o/
Here's the original results -->
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Alexandria from CA - Already Looking Forward To The Inauguration
May 14th 2008 at 2:04 am EDT
Nebraska had a beauty contest primary tonight and Obama won 49% to 46%. They already had a caucus that did count back on Super Tuesday.
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michelle mich
May 14th 2008 at 2:05 am EDT
They had their caucus awhile ago, and Obama won. They already alloted their delegates. I guess this is just sort of a popular vote tally...
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Doraine
May 14th 2008 at 3:06 am EDT
I voted here in Omaha today, and I was the 45th person to vote at 2:30 p.m. in my district. Very low voter turnout...The caucus was a madhouse, and we won 2-1
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May 14th 2008 at 2:03 am EDT
GObama! We love you!
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May 14th 2008 at 2:04 am EDT
THIS IS NOT THE WAY TO FINISH OFF THE "BRAND NAME" OF THE CLINTONS. CAN ANYONE GET THE MESSAGE TO OBAMA AND THE EXECUTIVES MAKING DECISIONS HERE. WE NEED TO TURN ON THE ELECTRICITY AGAIN. WHAT MADE US WIN 12 IN A ROW, ROCK STAR STATUS, THE OBAMA NATION TAKING OVER, FUND RAISING EVERYWHERE, RALLY'S EVERY NIGHT. THE LAST 5 CONTESTS, LETS SHOW WHAT WE ARE ALL ABOUT, NOT BE SEEN JUST PLAYING "PREVENT DEFENSE".
LETS REACH 2 MILLION SUPPORTERS BY MAY 20TH, LETS SET BROAD GOALS FOR CALLS. WHERE HAS IT ALL GONE?.
Instead, I want us to finish strong. Keep pushing for every vote, keep building the excitement, be doing what we did when we won 12 straight primaries. Large rallies, phone banks, goals to reach, money goals to reach. Obama being in Florida and Michigan and Missouri?, we need to get in Oregon and Kentucky right now. After we lock up the nomination, then go to these General Election states. Before we win, all hands on deck, all focus on the 2 states voting in 6 days. Ads up and running, rallys scheduled everyday in OR and KY, agressively close this otherwise the Clintons can sneak up and snatch it. We need to close out with agressiveness in the last 5 primaries, not by simply trying to run out the clock. We cant have the attitude that a state is Hillary's or Obama's. We never said that in previous states where we had a 20-30-40 point deficit to make up in the polls, which at times we have reversed, why are we doing it now? WE MUST, FINISH THIS OUT IN EVERY REMAINING CONTEST WITH PASSION AND AGGRESSIVENESS, THEN WORRY ABOUT THE GENERAL. Last year, before the Yankees were eliminated from the AL Title the Red Sox already were acting like they were going to the World Series. It was a turn off, even to Red Sox fans. One Step at a time and we havent completed the first step yet. To be AGGRESSIVE and close out Hillary with a bang instead of just running out the clock. LETS DO THIS. I expect us to come out aggressive and WIN Kentucky and Oregon, close out Hillary once and for all and THEN start the General campaign. But first things first.
LETS FINISH THIS LIKE UNBEATABLE CHAMPIONS NOT PUTTERING TO THE FINISH LINE!!!!
YES WE CAN! OBAMA 2008
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Patrice from Gardena, CA
May 14th 2008 at 2:20 am EDT
Lee, I agree...Senator Obama should make a strong statement.
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Balloons Across America
May 14th 2008 at 5:03 am EDT
DAMN, HE'S ONLY A MAN... AND CAN'T BE IN TWO PLACES AT ONE TIME.... CALM DOWN!!
I once saw a man eating a paper bag in WV and he
shared it with his wife.... now you tell me..how
do you reason with that? LOL LOL LOL LOL
I stand corrected.... I think the bag was plastic
LOL LOL LOL
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May 14th 2008 at 2:05 am EDT
I just wish media would point out that using the popular vote as a bargaining chip holds no sway.
How could it when caucus states kept no running popular vote tallies to count in that total?
I have heard numbers ranging from 10s of thousands to more than a million uncounted popular votes from caucus states.
Does anyone have any insights into this?
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michelle mich
May 14th 2008 at 2:08 am EDT
I"m feeling the same way with you on that one. I'm in Colorado, and if the Clinton campaign wants to use popular vote as a metric, then our state is basically worse off than Michigan or Florida. What a way to pick and choose which states matter.
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Carol
May 14th 2008 at 2:10 am EDT
I wish we would stop stressing over this its over for Hilary Obama is in the general election thats why he is in Missouri telling them to vote for him in November. Hilary can create all the metrics she want its over.
Carol
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LV Duckworth
May 14th 2008 at 2:13 am EDT
I wasn't stressing over the nomination -
I just would very much like the MSM to tell the truth to the American people and more importantly to the HRC supporters who according to the polls are less educated and less well informed.
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Carol
May 14th 2008 at 2:31 am EDT
Unfortunately thats not going to happen we've just have to accept that the media is NOT going ot favor Obama over McCain like they did with HIlary and its up to us to get the story to the people that matter like Keith Olbermann. I think Keith is our only friend who has his own show Cafferty is good too but he doesnt have a his own show. Anything negative about McCain Olbermann will print it and even he is getting tired of Hilary and her metrics. They are making it seem like Hilary has a chance and its not true if HIlary had a chance Obama wouldnt be in Missouri he would be in WV. He worked hard for Indiana and NC thats one of the reasons why he had to let WV go he realize he is not going to have the personal time to give them like he did PA so he had to cut his losses.
Carol
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Day Lily "Virginia Mom"
May 14th 2008 at 6:06 am EDT
I agree. I went to the Hillary blog and they actually believe that winning the popular vote gives her the nod. They also believe the election was stolen from her (delusions). Sen. Clinton lost fair and square. No, offense to any Hillary supporters!
Why didn't he campaign in WV? |
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May 14th 2008 at 2:08 am EDT
I think the Obama campaign really screwed up on this West Virginia thing. They could have had him campaign in West Virginia and try to narrow this embarrassing margin--over 40 points. It not only reflects poorly on the people in the state, but on Obama's unwillingness to change minds in that area, to come, hat in hand, and ask for votes, to convince them that he wants to be the president of all the people. I heard one sound bit of a woman recorded after she came out of the polling place--she told the reporter she thought Obama was a Muslim. The ignorance of the population is a given, but the fact that Obama wrote them off is disturbing and contradicts his supposed ethos of trying to heal, unite and overcome differences. by the way, I'm an Obama supporter.
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michelle mich
May 14th 2008 at 2:12 am EDT
In about two weeks from now, we probably won't even remember this. So, that's probably why they wrote it off.
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LV Duckworth
May 14th 2008 at 2:23 am EDT
I am not so certain he wrote them off, I think it was more a case of chosing where to spend his time. He did have a strong grass roots campaign in place and lots of people canvassing and calling.
However he needed to cast some votes in the US Senate, and do some important contact work with the Super Ds, as well as, get some overdue rest. Perhaps you will recall he was beginning to show the signs of fatique in his speaking engagements. Unlike HRC who has only been campaigning endlessly for 3 months, Barack has been doing it for 17 months.
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May 14th 2008 at 2:27 am EDT
Obama is one man, he cannot be everywhere, and at the time, NC and IN were more important, keeping the HUGE lead in NC and closing the gap in IN...
I'm sure we can safely write off WV and KT, since they WON'T cut into Barack's surmountable pledged delegate lead, and the fact that we will win Oregon, South Dakota, AND Montana will more than make up for these minor "losses"
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May 14th 2008 at 2:28 am EDT
She'll net just 12 delegates from WV (20 to 8).
Even if Obama had spent the entire week in WV, he probably would have only picked up a couple more of those delegates - hardly worth the effort.
And WV is not an important state for the general.
So I think the campaign did the right thing by putting more effort elsewhere.
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hopemonger
May 14th 2008 at 2:31 am EDT
And here's the delegate tracker showing how she got the 12 delegates:
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May 14th 2008 at 2:38 am EDT
Disagree. I do believe WV is important in the general and I'm sure he'll return more vigorously in the upcoming months.
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May 14th 2008 at 3:08 am EDT
First of all, I'd like to thank everyone who worked for the campaign in WV, we are grateful to all of you. The results of tonight's contest don't reflect at all on our wonderful campaign volunteers. Unfortunately, I do have to agree with those who don't like the looks of these results. The higher-ups in the campaign should not have made the decision to devote so little of the candidate's time and the campaign's resources to WV. First of all, Senator Obama has said many times since last week that he has not won this nomination and he doesn't presume himself the nominee yet. That's kind of hard to say when instead of campaigning in the one primary contest this week, the Senator devoted almost all his time to general election states. Second, the Clinton campaign will use every prop we give it in order to stay alive, whether for leverage or an outside chance or whatnot, and that means that popular vote is not irrelevant and we just lost by some 145,000 votes, which is a pretty noticable bite out of our lead in that area at the moment. I think the Senator should have spent time in the state and shot in the short term for at least 40% in this primary and with some acquaintance with WV voters for the fall. He does have to be president of the whole country once he wins, and if I were a WV voter, not to mention a WV Obama supporter, I would be rather disappointed by the attitude the campaign leaders showed toward me. I know we all feel euphoric because we will certainly win the nomination and are chomping at the bit to get to the general election. I know that's how we all feel and I feel that way too. But to be so far ahead in resources against Clinton as he is, to be the presumptive nominee, and then to drop a primary by 40+ points out of sheer neglect when it would be better to finish respectfully strong is just unseemly. I think the higher-ups in the campaign who made this decision should be a little ashamed. This isn't a poker game, it's a campaign to transform our country, and for that, we have to talk to the whole country. And with that, I'll repeat my undying loyalty--Obama 08!
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Anna-Maria
May 14th 2008 at 4:04 am EDT
There's probably a reason for it - though I'm curious too!
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May 14th 2008 at 2:09 am EDT
Here is a comment I forgot
Edwards had 7 or 8 % tonight!
I keep hearing the SNL words Vote for me or you are sexist and a racist!
Edwards got those votes tonight!
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May 14th 2008 at 2:10 am EDT
Yes We Can
Obama has done outstanding....He has:
1) won more states than HRC and MCCain
2) won more pledge delegates and superdelegate
than HRC and McCain
3) he still has the popular votes
Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, etc. has predicted that he may lose his momentum before the end of May. Their comments are hogwash...the Media is only reporting only exaggerated truth about HRC/McCain. Obama has won this democratic nominee. Why are the letting this drag ? Now, the Clinton machine wants the to change the rules again from 2025 to 2209 so she can have more time to cheat. That's not fair.
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May 14th 2008 at 2:11 am EDT
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McGovern Urges Obama, Clinton to Unite, Former Democratic Nomine Outlines Plan for Candidates to Appear together.
This is a HORRIBLE IDEA.
1) Hillary is broke, has no money for advertisements, can't get peopel to go to her rallies or get press, now the 30,000 people
coming to see Obama will see her and people
will think she has all these supporters.
2) It will legitimize the idea that this race
is still going on.
3) Hillary will trick him, turn it into a debate.
Find some bs policy issue where she differntiates from him, suggesting that his policy will screw over people and get a chane to debate him basically. Say something he has to respond to.
4) Kentucky WILL NOT vote for EITHER Hillary OR Obama in the GE, I could care less if 100% of her supporters won't vote or him in NOV, it just doesn't matter.
5) By Hillary showing she is not attacking Obama and hurting his Nov chances, she can pursuade the supers to let this go on.
6) Hillary will play some game. She will be all frienldy with him so it goes on then find another attack.
7) Who will be funding this event. Barack Obama of course.
8) Oregon Obama will win by 25 pts, Hillary probably won't want to campaign there much anyways. If they appear on stage together and take questions from audience, these will ALL BE Obama supporters and Hillary will show great contrast being worse with these people.
9) Why should Obama agree to appear with her in SD and MT. It will be over by then.
10) Right now Hillary is not attacking him, she knows if she does supers will flood Obama. Why appear togehter. Where they should appear together is FLORIDA when this whole thing is over, truck in all the other Dem candidates that didn't campaign there..Richardson, Kucinich, Edwards, Dodd, Biden, Gravel and have a whole tour of the state, give them a chance to meet the candidates and learn the Dem Platform, and use it as an excuse to register 500,000 people to turn the state dark blue.
Hillary and Obama should appear together ONCE IT IS OVER. No giving her free press. Even if they appear together the damage is already done I don't expect this to mean that all her supporters in KT will support Obama over McCain. BAD-IDEA.
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May 14th 2008 at 2:14 am EDT
The Old Guard is having a hard time letting go of their outmoded ideas. These strategies and panaceas are no longer useful. Almost everybody knows it. We have to continue to show how much we mean business, not as usual.
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Teresa of Newport Bch, CA for Obama
May 14th 2008 at 2:30 am EDT
That's a horrible ideal. She and Michelle will get into a serious cat fight.
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Joe
May 14th 2008 at 2:17 am EDT
This is 'Old School Thinking' the status quo is having a hard time letting go we simply just need to keep on keepin' on and ignore them as we go forward; they can live in the past and talk about their 'fish stories' while we change America and the World for the better.
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Leo
May 14th 2008 at 2:23 am EDT
What does he think this is? No kidding, what a joke! That will make it look like an Obama/Hillary ticket... during the primary? Who's paying for this? Of course Hillary (the 109 million dollar woman) will pitch in 50%, I'm sure. Forget it. Get her out of here.
Today did not make Hillary stronger, it only gave the perception that she is stronger. She may push this thing to the convention if they let her. Is that what McGovern wants?
We need a flurry of supers tomorrow. That will make a statement!
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May 14th 2008 at 2:26 am EDT
I am thinking more and more. Obama really needs BLOOMBERG.
I respect Hagel and all, think he should be secretary of defense BUT we need someone that
#1) Gives is a 1-2 punch, two guys that America will see that either would be a great President, we have someone that would be a great President as VP, so much will get done. Two great presdients on same ticket.
#2) Bloomberg is MUCH higher profile and has gotten MUCH more media scrutiny so they can't throw up fake attacks on him as America has really gotten to know him, most of us know him and those that do have a good idea of him. Hagel has great character but is an unknown to most Americans meaning that while you get a REP on the ticket, the REP party will find a way to destroy him lose REP votes, and also lose DEM votes thinking we got a scary republican as VP.
Get Obama/Bloomberg (and first two years Obama spends 2/3rds of time on Iraq, Bloomberg 2/3rds on domestic policy, he will be names greatest VP ever within 18 months, Obama one of greatest pres EVER).
Than all these other guys will just campaign with him and accept cabinet posts.
Bil Richardson (DEM) Secretary of State
Dick Lugar (REP) Energy Secretary
Chuck Hagel (REP) Secretary of Defense
Lincoln Chaffee (REP) Secretary of Commerce
Katherine Sebelius (DEM) Secretary of Educaiton.
Colin Powell (just an endorser) (REP)
Ross Perot (just an endorser) (IND)
Robert Rubin (Secretary of the Treasury) (DEM)
Attorney General - Russ Feingold (DEM)
Secretary of Homeland Security - Joe Biden (DEM)
Chief of Staff - Pete Rousse (DEM)
For Sec of Labor, Transportation, Health and Human Services pick women, and have one asian os lineup is balances.
Obama will have all these events going on simultaneously get ALL THESE BIG NAMES, energize his base so we are getting 10,000 people at each of the rallies of people on his cabinet, more than at McCain rallies.
Lugar, Hagel, Powell will have to be 110% sold on Obama, his platform and that he can win as IF he loses the GE the political careers of HAGEL and LUGAR will be over, the Republicans will destroy them for "not being loyal" and crossing over. Obama will have to be 15 pts above McCain before they will join on.
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08AMA!
May 14th 2008 at 2:34 am EDT
He won't get the rural vote or blue collar votes. He's from NYC, a lot of the country will have a problem with that.
I'd prefer Sebelius as VP or Kaine.
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May 14th 2008 at 2:38 am EDT
The strategist said Mr Obama has "no intention" of making Mrs Clinton his running mate, but that he is prepared to offer an olive branch to her supporters by seating delegates from Michigan and Florida, won by Mrs Clinton but excluded because they broke party rules.
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Day Lily "Virginia Mom"
May 14th 2008 at 4:50 am EDT
No, this will give the Republicans an opportunity to paint the Dem ticket as Elite. They are already trying to do so.
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Barack Obama Supporter
May 14th 2008 at 2:11 am EDT
Sen. Clinton's win was impressive I will admit, but Sen. Obama has already won about 15 extremely impressive wins. Let's take a look at some:
District of Columbia by 51%
Hawaii by 52%
Alaska by 50%
Kansas by 48%
Idaho by 62%
Despite Clinton's win, Sen. Obama is still ahead in ALL areas - States won, pledged delegates, superdelegates, and popular votes.
I believe Sen. Obama is the strongest candidate to defeat Sen. McCain in November, and the strongest to lead this Nation as our next president !
It's time for REAL change in Washington, it's time for Barack Obama for president !
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Hockeygirl 4 Obama
May 14th 2008 at 2:18 am EDT
I'm in Anchorage and Obama won Alaska by 75% or more.. not 50%
There were literally THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS of Obama supporters and only a handful of clinton supporters. They say that up in Fairbanks, it was even crazier! I doubt anyone there voted for Hrc... LOL!
I'd guess-ta-mate that he won here by 85% or more.. but there was so many people that they simply had to stop counting.
Election results to date:
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Hockeygirl 4 Obama
May 14th 2008 at 2:19 am EDT
ps. to "Barack Obama supporter"
You're really shorting him on the numbers there.. he won Idaho by 80%
Look at the results of all the states again >
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AWE KOOTA BILXPAAK KOOXSHIIWIASH, which translates to "he who helps all people of the land."
May 14th 2008 at 2:55 am EDT
The %'s are the difference between Barack and HRC!
I know, those are pretty large % to mistake for actual % the Barack got :)
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Carol Porter
May 14th 2008 at 5:48 am EDT
Correction to above:
Obama won in Hawaii by 75% or 76%
(76% Obama 24% Clinton was reported originally, but may have been revised to 75% to 25%)
Although Barack has enjoyed landslide victories, the media didn't need them in its attempts to "create interest," to falsely promote continuation of the race. It's good for advertising revenues, so they're promoting Hillary's tenacity, despite the obvious: Barack Obama will be our nominee.
That said, we cannot become complacent. We must work diligently to support Barack's nomination and election to the Presidency. Make phone calls, donate, and speak out. Become an informed and polite evangelist. Convert one new undecided or uninformed voter this week. Continue to work on one of your open-minded Republican friends. Don't stop working until Barack Obama is elected as the next US President.
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Coracii - Counting The Days Until January 20th, 2009
May 14th 2008 at 9:18 am EDT
The numbers referenced above are correct. You can say that Obama won Hawaii with 76% of the vote, or you can say that he won the state by 52% (76-24). It all depends on how the numbers are stated, in total percentage or in percent of victory margin. Same with Idaho, he won with 79% of the vote, and a margin of victory of 62%. Either way, he's won something like 13 states with greater than 65% of the vote, she's won two and people are concerned about WV?
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Barack Obama Supporter
May 14th 2008 at 2:15 am EDT
Sen. Clinton's win was impressive I will admit, but Sen. Obama has already won about 15 extremely impressive wins. Let's take a look at some:
District of Columbia by 51%
Hawaii by 52%
Alaska by 50%
Kansas by 48%
Idaho by 62%
Despite Clinton's win, Sen. Obama is still ahead in ALL areas - States won, pledged delegates, superdelegates, and popular votes.
I believe Sen. Obama is the strongest candidate to defeat Sen. McCain in November, and the strongest to lead this Nation as our next president !
It's time for REAL change in Washington, it's time for Barack Obama for president !
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Lisa Black Eagle
May 14th 2008 at 2:27 am EDT
Thank you for your analysis, the fact that Obama won by 62 points over Clinton in Idaho contradicts the contentions (by MSM, pundits, and Clinton supporters) that Obama can't appeal to blue collar whites (which is primarily the demographics of Idaho), in fact, I believe the AA population in Idaho is less than 1%.
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AWE KOOTA BILXPAAK KOOXSHIIWIASH, which translates to "he who helps all people of the land."
May 14th 2008 at 2:53 am EDT
Your # at a first glance look like the actual % that Barack received.
But, they are actually the % difference between Barack and HRC!
How impressive were those wins!
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BonForObama
May 14th 2008 at 2:17 am EDT
of Obama says "Thank you" to all the ground troops, aerial troops, virtual troops...heck, ALL YOU PEEPS!
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The Extreme aka Allen Norfolk, VA Navy Sailor. Really Proud member of the Barack Obama/American People Party!!!
May 14th 2008 at 2:33 am EDT
thank you for supporting us as we continue to keep this great country safe.
Obama/Sebelius or Obama/Kaine 08
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08AMA!
May 14th 2008 at 2:36 am EDT
Do you think either would accept it though?
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Roberto
May 14th 2008 at 4:01 am EDT
Sebelius seemed to indicate she would.
And she's my top choice!
1. She's progressive
2. She's in a Red State
3. She has executive experience
4. She is a rising star with Barack!
and I am sorry, but no pro-life Republican can be his vp.
most women support choice. And that's very important to the democratic party.
If we picked a pro-life Republican for the VP, we would be rightly seen as traitors.
And no to Hillary-
1. She was for the war- it would take away that issue
2. She receives lots of money from lobbyists and is proud of it- Barack doesn't take money from them so that he is only accountable to us
3. Her criticisms of us were so sharp, so over the top, that the Republicans could use the sound bites of her criticisms in their ads.
4. She is the candidate who is the same old Washington Barack has said he wants to change
5. She ran a political campaign that exploited and promoted racial divisions in order to score political points
BTW, Michelle is supposedly against it and Ted Kennedy has also nixed it.
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08AMA!
May 14th 2008 at 4:39 am EDT
Well I am a pro-life dem, I'm opposed to same sex marriage and support gun rights (withing reason of course)
But to ban Roe v. Wade would be a mistake. What about acts of violence against women??? Are they supposed to carry that for nine months!?!? I think not! I will concede that the amount of abortions per day is out of control and that we need to reduce it through regulation and education but McCain wants to overturn it. Who is he to tell a woman what to do after they've been violated?
And if he gets his nutcase right wingers on the court, imagine what else they might try and overturn! I don't want to picture it.
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08AMA!
May 14th 2008 at 4:41 am EDT
This is why I ask:
"I'm humbled by the suggestion, but what it does more than anything is remind me of how proud I am of the progress we've made in Kansas over my six years as governor. I'll continue working to help Sen. Obama, as I believe he is the right leader for our country, but my focus remains on serving the people of Kansas."
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Diane
May 14th 2008 at 2:18 am EDT
What a great way for Senator Obama to access the strength and weaknesses of our great states while recognizing the critical and big picture of our entire country as a whole and at the same time moving forward and staying on course to piece the complex puzzle that will affect the long term health, economic and livelihood of all classes of Americans.
Low, moderate, blue, working, middle !?!?
The young Senator from Illinois obviously used wisdom and thought out judgment when he opposed the invasion of Iraq before the war began.
Senator Obama has again demonstrated and concentrated his focus on the consequences related to our foreign policy and not just one mighty big episode exhibited by "going with the flow."
The picture has become way bigger than the frame now and I commend Obama's efforts and the support he is putting forth in looking out for the welfare of our brave soldiers and veterans.
We have inherited a lot of fighting battles, economic, energy, affordable health care...
Senator Obama indicated that "We have got to fight our veterans battle before we can fight our other battles"...
That to me is another fair sign of being in touch and using competent judgment. After all anything less that that would be evasive and immoral because after all that is the battle of the beginning!
Florida for OBAMA!
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NorCal Woman
May 14th 2008 at 2:48 am EDT
We must all be very proud of Obama. He knew this was going to be tough. I was reading several articles about how some of our campaign workers have been treated in Indiana, Pennsylvania and West Virginia. The stereo types of the rural, poor white folks is real. They still act like Afican Americans are second class citizens. The racial thing is just so hard for me to understand and I am white. The AA community has endured through really tough experiences. I can not understand this. I grew up in Oakland in the sixties and I never thought twice about color. When we moved North in a rural town, I thought it was strange to just see white folks only. I had a picture of Martin Luther King hanging in my room and was told many times by white folks to take it down. So, I can just imagine the pain people have experienced. I do not where this stuff comes from-can not relate. But, I am proud to be a supporter of Obama. If white folks can not accept him, so be it-they are the ones who have to live with their hate. I am really upset that the Clintons played this race card, therefore have no respect for them anymore.
Obama's BIG wins.... |
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Leah from Houston, TX
May 14th 2008 at 2:19 am EDT
FROM CNN:
Clinton's biggest victory so far this campaign came in the Arkansas primary on Super Tuesday, February 5, when she beat Barack Obama 70.05 percent to 26.25 percent — the Illinois senator's poorest showing to date.
The Arkansas primary marked the only contest so far where Clinton reached the 70 percent vote threshold. So far Obama has reached or exceeded 70 percent in five contests: the DC primary (75 percent), and the caucuses in Alaska (75 percent), Hawaii (76 percent), Idaho (79 percent), and Kansas (74 percent).
Clinton's second best showing was in the Rhode Island primary on March 4, when she captured 58 percent of the vote.
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Everyone just remember that Senator Obama has had many BIG wins - the media just doesn't talk about them!
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Diane
May 14th 2008 at 2:46 am EDT
You are absolutely correct...We have a case of voter content and voter discontent.
These kind of things