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By Zach Ritter (Austin, TX) Jun 20th 2008 at 12:58 am EDT

Hello fellow bloggers,

I had previously said that I would no longer go for firsts since the day of Barack's presumptive nomination during which I recorded at least eighteen. But I have a message for you tonight, so I will be trying to claim this spot.

My message to you all is that we remain civil to all other people. There is no reason in my mind for us not to treat others with respect at all times despite who they are or what they have said. We may disagree. There will even be people who are disrespectful and hateful on purpose but we must not sink to their level. First of all, when we are blogging, we need to conduct ourselves in a civil manner. This would include being respectful to all those who post on this blog or on other blogs. If someone tries to push your buttons, you must resist. I urge you to remain principled. Specifically, I think that the Mc(insert word here) business is immature and/or childish. There are better ways to point out that John McCain has many times contradicted himself. Also, yes, John McCain is 71 years old and would be 72 on the day he is inaugurated should he win the election. Yes, I do think that age affects the way a person does his or her job. But that being said, we must be respectful when we point out that we think his age is an issue.

So in conclusion, I am asking everyone here to make the effort to turn the other cheek. We must act the way we want the other side to act.

Good luck out there. Be the change. Even if you don't seek to be principled, you can take the logical approach: your argument will be less effective when you act in a disrespectful manner.

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By Lace; Yes We Did Jun 20th 2008 at 1:02 am EDT

5 seconds, every single time...! geesh :)

Well hey, if I would've gotten it it would've been for Reggie (of course) ♥
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I kinda agree with you Zach. Today, especially, it seems like things got a bit out of hand. The worst thing, from what I've noticed, that you can do is to call someone out on the blogs. If the person isn't a 100% obvious, all out troll "Osama and Obama are brothers" --or something like that (you know what I mean), simply send them a message instead with your concerns!!!

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By Czarina rhiannon hussein aka le chat Jun 20th 2008 at 1:04 am EDT

I've been over on the DNC blog today/tonight for the most part. What happened today that "got a bit out of hand?"

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By Lace; Yes We Did Jun 20th 2008 at 1:13 am EDT

Well, I'm good friends with both of the folks that it went on through, so I'm not going to re-tell the story (don't want to be 1-sided, and don't want to embarrass either of them). Basically, they just ripped on each other in public for different reasons. Nothing that's super-abnormal anymore.

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By Czarina rhiannon hussein aka le chat Jun 20th 2008 at 1:18 am EDT

In line with Zach's comments, this is why I've been staying off the blog lately. Seems as though the negativity, etc. have increased. This could be due to lots of leftover energy after the long and stressful primary.

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By Joy IA Jun 20th 2008 at 2:43 am EDT

Right with you Debi! Primary season was especially long for "old-timers" and I guarantee you, way back when there wasn't this negative energy going on--never between fellow bloggers either.

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By Cris from Saint Louis, MO Jun 20th 2008 at 3:07 am EDT

ALL the 2008 Election News in One Place: Link

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By Robert Wall Jun 20th 2008 at 3:09 am EDT

Thank you Zach, from this moment I'll try to get to the first. So I can show how important the healthcare is to our country Link

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By Celtic Jun 20th 2008 at 7:03 am EDT

Video- Obama Comforts Crying Student (DO NOT MISS) Link

Clinton supporter planning "holy chaos" for Obama camp Link

Crazy Obama Smear Merchant Arrested Link

McCain's support among GOP women shows cracks Link

McCain May Not Be Able To Carry His Home State Link

VIDEO- Nominee's families off limit? Tell Cindy McMealTicket Link

McCain Team- Obama's Team Is Lying Over Public Financing Link

Poll-itics: Fox News Edition with "dumbest question ever" Link

How rich are the McCains? Part one Link Part Two (Video) Link

McCain Aide Accuses Obama Of "Boys Club Bullying" Link

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By Dave from NYC Jun 20th 2008 at 9:15 am EDT

Zach: Thanks so much. I don't want to hear candidates names twisted anymore. This is juvinile -- worthy of 5th grade bullies. We don't take kindly to Obama being called Osama, so why should we call McCain, McLame or any other silly nonsense.

Let's talk like adults.

As far as forgoing the public campaign finance money. I thought that was a done deal a long time ago. Apparently not.

Well, it is pragmatic, and Obama must fight the 527 Swift Boaters. As McCain's polls fall, the GOP smear campaign will escalate.

Plus, it will take mucho dinero just to really introduce Obama's bio to the country (not everyone blogs or even watches the news). So let's spend the big bucks on ads during the Olympics. Let's spread Obama's family values far and wide, not just depend on the new media. Let's have so many of those bio ads that we get sick of seeing a new one on the blogs.

The idea is to win. We must win. We must fight with everything we have (within the bounds of ethics). We can not be like poor Al Gore and not challenge and demand a recount. Every step of the way will be a fight.

Think of civil rights (1955 to 1968). Did MLK ever back down? Was he smart, use excellent strategists (Jim Bevel)? He was not just in the right, but he also kept his "eyes on the prize" with focus and strategy.

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By Sharon Jun 20th 2008 at 6:59 pm EDT

Talk about negativity, have you been on the Washington Blog at The Trail? I have never seen so much hate, ever, ditto on msnbc blog. Somehow, even though we disagree at times, we have got to find a way to be civil.

Sharon

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By FreedomTwo Jun 20th 2008 at 1:21 am EDT

Good evening all!! I hope no one minds my ranting right now; however, I just heard yet ANOTHER false reporting about Michelle Obama and the "proud" comment!! Does ANYONE in the news get it right?

Here is what Michelle Obama said, in FULL context. She opened with, "For the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country." She never said "American" --that's another lie from the smear machine; the media has mis-reported it also, and not just Fox News!! Shame on these other stations, too. However, this link should shut the "Neo Con Nut Job Smear Machine up" --but it won't; there isn't enough duct tape in the world to shut the members of this club up!

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"Other" stations, in addition to Fox News, have mis-reported this from DAY ONE; I find it disgraceful; and I found it "disgraceful" when I was supporting Hillary Clinton during the primaries. I’ve had to go online and research things after the news has reported during this campaign; they’re so caught up with “being first to report”, or spinning and bias, that even stations that would ordinarily do better, haven’t. It’s why so many people are confused at what Michelle Obama really did say; her speech was actually “touching” in my opinion. She appears to have been really speaking from her heart; I both appreciate and admire that. This mis-reporting is just one more example of why I've been so sickened with the media coverage during this campaign.

Thank you for allowing me this outlet to rant!

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By Deb from Utah Jun 20th 2008 at 2:16 am EDT

If we don't like what's on the news, and I am often dumbfounded by it, let's make some news! Positive news, about our candidate in our communities. The General Election is on now. I've been sending out links from "Issues"/above. This is why when I speak to someone who is worried about putting their kids through college I can answer them with Barack's policies. It's INTO ACTION! No media outlet can out shout the actions of millions!

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By Dave from NYC Jun 20th 2008 at 9:23 am EDT

Debra: If Obama pulls far ahead, the news will try to lift McCain up. It is not because they like McCain. It is because they want this to be a photo-finish horse race, and keep everyone tuned in (ad revenue up). That is how they keep their jobs.

We keep attributing their choice of stories from our assumptions of political commitment. They are not politically committed (except for Ann and Rush and a few wing-nuts). They are committed to paying their mortgage and paying their kids' college tuition, and are mostly cynical on politics.

They know that people can quickly tune out the news and go back to sports and reality TV.

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By mshazen Jun 20th 2008 at 2:07 pm EDT

You are right I watched TV last night and its not just FOX news it is filtering into them all I just wanted to throw something. Thats why I come back here for a positive message. I need to stay away from the TV news.

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By Chickie Jun 20th 2008 at 3:49 am EDT

Have you seen this story on the MSM being "mad at" Obama becasue of the supposedly limited access he gives them? As if they have eraned the right to be with him 24/7?

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My thoughts on this are: if they aren't going to stop perpetuating the rumors and innuendos, he sould give them LESS access not more.

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By Sheela N Jun 20th 2008 at 7:11 am EDT

My father and I have been talking a lot about this comment, and we both agree that the news stations even the good ones like CNN are misrepresenting what she said. She did say really proud and that little word changes the meaningof what she said. I think that the media is trying to make a story out of nothing which is why the continue to mention it.

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By Josh Jun 20th 2008 at 8:58 am EDT

Here is an interesting interactive map website I came across.It lets you turn states blue or red according to how you predict them and the electoral college total changes as you do that.

Here is an idea...lets make our predictions in favor of Obama and see who will make the closest prediction.It will keep us engaged and increase the stakes for individuals because of their predictions.

here is the link
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Here is my worst case scenario prediction

WA, OR, CA, NV, NM, MN, WI, IL, MI, OH, PA, NY, ME, VT, MA, CT, RI, NJ, DE, MD, DC and HI, for Obama...summing up to 278 OBAMA WINS!!!

Let me know what yall think.My scenario does not include the Virginia, the Carolinas, Georgia Mississippi etc

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By Robert Wall Jun 20th 2008 at 12:53 pm EDT

MLK was great, but it still took a president to get the job done

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By Obama Mamacita! Jun 20th 2008 at 1:21 am EDT

Lace,

Geez, now I know why you are so quick girlfriend. Thanks for coming back for us slower folk. LOL

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By FreedomTwo Jun 20th 2008 at 3:03 am EDT

A simply brilliant post, Zach. I would like to add one thing; I hope you don't mind. I've been disappointed during this campaign when Sen. Obama lost a primary, the first words out of so many people's mouths, were "they're racists." As someone who is new here and was a Hillary Clinton supporter but am now a PROUD Sen. Obama supporter, I was very offended at the "racist" label. Ironically, during this campaign, my 22-year old daughter was dating a man who is half Hispanic and half African American. I was called a "racist" more times than I can count. It's very insulting and very, very hurtful to be called, or labeled, a racist simply because the candidate someone supports is white.

It also gives the impression that supporters of other candidates in the primary were also stupid, and that they only supported Clinton or Edwards, etc., because they are racists. So I would like to offer a piece of advice, please refrain from labeling people racists because we have not yet won them over; trust me, NO person that supported Hillary Clinton based on issues and policy would EVER vote for McCain. Many liked Hillary Clinton; that does not mean they didn't, or don't, like Sen. Obama; I always have.

I hope I haven't offended anyone; however, being labeled a racist, with no proof other than someone likes another candidate who just happens to be white, is not only hurtful, it is wrong in my opinion; it's also a very, very big turnoff.

Thank you for your welcome, again!

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By Cindii *Obama blue sweetie* Jun 20th 2008 at 3:09 am EDT

Thank you for the advice Freedom. :-)

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By ★Holly♐HH Honored to Have Helped with This Historic Campaign! ★ Eugene Jun 20th 2008 at 7:40 am EDT

I totally agree! Notice that Barack never uses this term, including when the media is trying to goad him into it. Notice that he called Geraldine F's comment "silly" or "foolish" -- can't remember the exact word, but something like that, in response to a question trying to get him to label it racist.

I've been active in promoting diversity on my campus, and I also have been called a racist. People use it as an insult to try and shut you up. Does not promote dialogue and understanding.

Barack promotes the importance of disagreeing without being disagreeable. I have been trying hard to follow his example, with occasional lapses.... I will likely sin again but want to thank all on the blog who are calling out for us to be our best.

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By Sharon~Independent for Obama Jun 20th 2008 at 5:45 am EDT

I think part of the blame lands squarely on the shoulders of the media.

Did you happen to notice just how much Chris Matthews, among others, stressed the fact that the people who voted for Hillary...said that "race" was an issue, were over 45 years old, and also did not go to college. These types of comments was constant during the primary contests.

Unfortunate, as it is, the media DOES shape the views of the public...and with all the slicing and dicing going on, I'm not surprised that some fell into the media trap.

Frankly, the media has been the biggest disappointment during this election cycle. It's a sad day, when you can't even trust what the "so called" professionals on TV are reporting. It's going to be up to us to hold the media accountable.

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By Sharon~Independent for Obama Jun 20th 2008 at 5:46 am EDT

oops...These types of comments WERE constant during the primary contests.

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By mshazen Jun 20th 2008 at 2:18 pm EDT

Exactly, I was a Clinton supporter who would never have considered McCain, but the entire first week all the media focased on was the few who were complaing. That one delegate who was removed got more media coverage than anything else.

They did not report that Obama got something like 65% of the female Hillary vote within the first week. I had to go on the internet to find that information. It was just an attempt to keep the struggle going.

Thanks for welcoming me here.

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By Dave from NYC Jun 20th 2008 at 9:28 am EDT

MSM runs a circus. It is not really news, it is reality TV mixed with TV wrestling. Obama HQ just needs to manage it: set their agenda for them. The international trip is a good idea from that viewpoint (and also the fact that he needs to do it).

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By Adrienne's Rants Jun 20th 2008 at 4:32 am EDT

What has happened I'm confused? Are we talking about on this site, another site, or in general? The only drama I see is on HP Hillary camp still making statement about joining the McCain camp and Hillary for 2012... The others who are voting for McCain, I just expect that.... Between Obama fans, there is love.

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By Coracii - Counting The Days Until January 20th, 2009 Jun 20th 2008 at 8:06 am EDT

A little of everywhere, but I believe Zach in his first comment was referrring specifically to a couple of incidents here yesterday.

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By William from Stamford, CT Jun 20th 2008 at 5:04 am EDT

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By Lori Beth from Walkersville, MD Jun 20th 2008 at 8:46 am EDT

It concerned me when I read that Senator Obama's list of VP candidates included John Murtha. Two groups PMA and CTC benefited significantly from Murtha's earmarks. Of course, both groups were large campaign contributors. Also, Murtha threatens other members of congress when they don't support him. And let's not forget the ABSCAM scandal.
Personally, I like Jim Webb.

P.S. - If I hear one more news station talk about flag pins, I am going to scream! Or, about Mrs. Obama's statement about being proud of her country. I want to hear about important topics. Also, I figure the flag pin is probably imported from China!

Thank you for letting me vent!:)

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By Dave from NYC Jun 20th 2008 at 9:32 am EDT

Here is the cure: Stop watching MSM. Read some decent news papers online, read Huffingrton, read Mother Jones, watch PBS. Turn off all the rest. You will be a much more centered and sane individual.

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By Pat Canady Jun 20th 2008 at 9:51 am EDT

Thanks for the upstanding advice. Obama has run his campaign without all the negativity that other campaigns insist on running. He makes us proud of his ethics. We must comply and do the same. Later from "hot" Tucson

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By Jen who will celebrate this November with a Obama win!! Jun 20th 2008 at 1:13 am EDT

Zach,

How about a donation for your first?

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By mshazen Jun 20th 2008 at 2:32 pm EDT

Hey I'm from Tucson too, Its well lets just say really really hot. Love it though.

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By RonC Jun 20th 2008 at 1:20 am EDT

I contributed when I got home.

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By Working Together Jun 20th 2008 at 1:47 am EDT

Zach, well said. thank you.

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By Jamal - It's not Mr. Obama, It's President Obama! Jun 20th 2008 at 1:51 am EDT

Barack Obama fills sandbags for the floods
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Barack Obama comforts crying student
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John Mccain War Monger, Flip Flopper, Opportunist
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Keith Olbermann, John Mccain caused high gas prices
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Keith Olbermann Special Comment John Mccain
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Barack's Family Album
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Fired UP! One Voice
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Guest Who's coming to Dinner, Barack Obama
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Wolf Blitzer interviews Barack Obama
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Tom Hanks endorses Barack Obama
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Great interview with Barack with Dan Rather
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Barack on Real Sports
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By Deb from Utah Jun 20th 2008 at 2:08 am EDT

Thank you Zach. Your post is worthy of #1, let's hope your wisdom prevails!

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By Trish - Working To Elect That One Jun 20th 2008 at 2:35 am EDT

I said something similar, although far less eloquently, at the end of the previous thread, and was glad to see this at the start of a new blog. Thank you for reminding us all that we must keep to a higher standard than those who come to annoy us. Admittedly, that can be hard to do at times, but we are not just in this to win, but to truly change the way political campaigns are conducted.

One thing that many either don't realize or just forget is that the candidates don't feel the same rancor towards one another that some of their supporters express, but can conduct themselves civilly when they come together. We can do the same, with a little effort. It would show others that we really mean what we say and it might even shame one or two into behaving decently themselves.

I hope everyone reads and ponders your words, then takes them to heart. This is going to be a very hard campaign and there will be some frustrating times, but we simply have to ride those through, channeling our energies into doing something productive for the campaign, rather than giving in to our feel good, even if sometimes righteous, anger.

Come on folks. We have an election to win, not points to score.

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By Dave from NYC Jun 20th 2008 at 9:47 am EDT

Patricia: We don't have points to score or some internal anger to vent that really has nothing to do with the campaign. Let's keep our neuroses and personality disorders off of the blog.

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By FreedomTwo Jun 20th 2008 at 3:27 am EDT

Oh my, I am so embarrassed; I didn’t know about this “friend request” thing here; I just noticed I had about 12 friend requests; WOW! Thank you all; I “approved” all of you and now have the “approval” thing figured out.

Now, I have a question, how do I request someone to be “a friend”? Can anyone help me out? I feel SOOOOOOOOOOO dumb right now!

Thanks again; I really feel at home here!

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By Chickie Jun 20th 2008 at 3:52 am EDT

Freedom:

I think you simply have to click on the person's screen name and then when you are directed to their page, go to their profile and then you can invite them as a friend.

Hope that helps.

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By FreedomTwo Jun 20th 2008 at 3:56 am EDT

Thanks, Chickie! I'll try it.

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By Sheela N Jun 20th 2008 at 7:16 am EDT

I agree Zach. Well said.

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By Sweetzie1 Jun 20th 2008 at 6:35 am EDT

Zach, you are so right. Thank you for the advice. I've not been too involved in politics before because it seemed like whatever was planned to be done was done anyhow; in other words, they'll do whatever they want to do in politics.

But, when I heard Senator Obama speak for the very first time, it was reminiscent of the days of good hope feelings and desires for change during the Kennedy years. I was two years old in 1960, but my whole family was Democratic to the bone.

Somehow through Senator Obama, those feelings and desires of true hope and change are re-ignited in the hearts and minds of many in our country.

Despite the odds, I work at and will continually plan to be dignified and classy when angry people voice their words about the Obamas. I will NOT be mortified or moved by negativity.

Yes it's hard to be civil and calm amongst the slings and slurs and barbs and just painful comments spewing from others who don't support our Senator, but ongoing civility and calm is what's needed.

I always remember the Aesop Fable about the Tortoise and the Hare. And the Tortoise won. Stay calm :D

"The tired, the poor, the huddled masses yearning to vote for Barack Obama!"

Yes we sure can indeed!

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By C.M.A. Jun 20th 2008 at 7:51 am EDT

Is anyone else disappointed with Obama for breaking his pledge? I know it's to his advantage to forgo public financing, but he made a commitment -- a very public, quite emphatic commitment. Now he's breaking it. It's sad to see him act as any other politician would. I watched the video, and I was so disappointed. For the first time, I felt as if he was just another politician, just another guy who makes a cynical decision, then tries to justify it. That's part of what is so maddening about the Bush/Rove crew. Obama must be different.

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By Vicki Jun 20th 2008 at 8:16 am EDT

Hi CMA --

I'm not disappointed because I believe that he never pledged to accept public financing. What he said several times (during debates) was that he pledged to meet with the Republican candidate to see if they could come to a consensus on the financing of their campaigns using public financing while limiting the impact of the PACs and 527's. Obama's attorneys met with McCains, but did not get the agreements from McCain's side that they wanted. Had Senator Obama accepted public financing, he would have been badly disadvantaged.

One of McCain's 527 has already pledged to spend up to $250 million on McCain's behalf. Also, the $83 million available to each candidate through public financing would not have been enough to wage the 50 state strategy.

I believe it was an excellent decision.

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By Monica in NJ....a GOP for BO Jun 20th 2008 at 8:47 am EDT

1) WE ARE THE PUBLIC. We are financing his campaign.
2) Given the level of GOP smear & the character assassination being leveled at BO by MSM, it was necessary for BO to make a tactical decision.
Smear? a) "Terrorist fist bump" b) excluding "really" from MO statement c) BO is a Muslim d) BO is unpatriotic e) BO is dangerous etc.
3) A true fighter MUST macke tactical decisions as the battle wages. On one side we have BO & the people, on the other side MSM, Jmac, Bush, Cheney, Oil Companies & WARS WARS WARS WARS.

That reminds me, it's time for me to make another contribution.

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By Pat Canady Jun 20th 2008 at 9:59 am EDT

You are correct, Obamanever said "committed" and has always noted that he wouldn't involve Loby Groups etc. in the campaign. Grassroots donations are the public's way of supporting the campaign. He made the right decision, the press and others may spin it differently but that is politics per usual. One thing certain, Senator Barack Obama does not represent the "usual"! This campaign encourages us all to participate.

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By Coracii - Counting The Days Until January 20th, 2009 Jun 20th 2008 at 8:24 am EDT

There was a fairly long discussion (among the many discussions of it yesterday) in the previous thread. He never committed that he would enter the public funding, the original questionnaire had a yes/no answer to which he checked yes. But, he wrote in a stipulation that the yes answer was based on a deal being reached with the presumptive republican nominee to control the activities and messages of the 527's. Notice specifically the words "I will pursue an agreement", that means that the yes was not unconditional. Obama has done that on the Democratic side, McCain is either too weak, lacks the ethics, or just flat-out encourages the republican 527's.

"In a November 2007 questionnaire, Obama answered "yes" when asked: "If you are nominated for president in 2008 and your major opponents agree to forgo private funding in the general election campaign, will you participate in the presidential public financing system?" He added: "I will aggressively pursue an agreement with the Republican nominee to preserve a publicly financed general election."
- Excerpt from Associated Press

Here's a couple of quotes that emphasize McCain's dis-interest in eliminating the 527 smears and Obama's willingness to do just the opposite. Many more can be found with a simple google search.

Progressive Media USA, the group organized to be the main soft-money advertising vehicle for Democrats in the fall, will dramatically scale back its efforts in deference to the wishes of the party's presumptive nominee. From Link

In addition to funding his general election campaign through private money sources, the McCain campaign also expects to benefit from the expenditures of 527 groups. Despite condemning 527 ads in 2004, McCain has made clear that he expects that 527s will attack Senator Obama and that he is not willing to referee them. “’I Can’t Be a Referee’: Drops 2004 crusade against ‘527’ attack ads.” Boston Herald (June 12, 2008).

I believe that I've seen you post this comment about being disappointed several times now over the last day. If you believe the media without researching the entire story, you're going to be disappointed many times this election season. Most of the media would rather create a story than report on facts since the true information typically won't sell as many stories. Hopefully this answers your concerns, if not post again and we'll see what else we can do to alleviate them.

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By Heather Jun 20th 2008 at 7:59 am EDT

I'm glad you said this, I've been thinking the same thing for some time. I would even add that even if within the "family" we disagree or have a question about something Senator Obama has said or done that it's ok and that we shouldn't jump on each other. I've seen a few comments along the lines of "just trust him" or "don't question him". I don't think that Obama is someone who would WANT his supporters to not question him, it's not the kind of leader he is. The reason I believe in him is his ability to see nuance, to respect alternative viewpoints and treat big issues as complex. This is why he is refreshing and why he is progressive and I think is the reason he is winning over so many Republicans and Independents. I think if we allowed some respectful discussion and disagreement (ala Michelle's point with Elizabeth on the View) we might help win over undecideds who are reading these posts. But if they are not sure if they agree with everything Senator Obama says, but rather just respect who he is as a person, and then come here and see a lot of "don't question him" then they might be turned off. Just my two cents. I just try to remember whenever I'm here that I'm representing Senator Obama and I want to be an asset to him and his campaign, not a hindrance.

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By Quietlady Jun 20th 2008 at 9:29 am EDT

Hmm - ok - patience I'm brand new to blogging - have no idea what I'm doing. Took me three times to get registered. But I have a question on the financing that is really bugging me. Yesterday I found the FEC.com website listing all contributions for the candidates. I found it very interesting, especially if you take the names of the donors and then start running searches on the diversification of businesses, name changes, owners, etc. on who is actually giving the money. Did you know Haliburton is now in the laundry and nursing home business under various DBAs, talk about diversification?

I read the contribution rules and no one seems to be following them. So I'm confused as to how an individual can say they will match $250 million in funds if they are only allowed to give $2,300 per campaign. So max would be $4,600 per individual for each. But you see people listed giving several times that amount.

Also, why would the Service Employees International Union give money to both campaigns (they aren't alone by the way) when their website clearly shows they support Obama over McCain. Then there is the PAC money, Obama may not realize it but his campaign people have been accepting PAC funds from the Life and Liberty PAC INC and from the Michigan Education Associate (MEA PAC)group here in MI - I know I give to this. Are they a different type of Political Action Group and lobyist - then say the insurance or drug industries? Is it certain PACs he's not accepting money from. It just boggles my mind why so much money is laid out to get a job that pays about $400,000 a year. Wouldn't it be better to give each candidate so much alloted advertising time in the media, equal campaign flyers, etc. and stop spending so much money that could be used to educate our children, give medical attention to those that need it, and money for in home care of the elderly?

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By T Brown Jun 20th 2008 at 8:23 am EDT

Link

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By Kelly Jun 20th 2008 at 9:09 am EDT

good morning everyone! I am still getting good responses in my area. Let's keep it going!

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By ☞Aunt Becky☜ ... Blogyenta: "I kvetch, therefore I am." Jun 20th 2008 at 9:43 am EDT

Well stated, Zach. There are folks who come here to "browse". They check out our group and make decisions based on the form and substance of our discussions. If we want to attract people to our movement it's up to us to represent the principles this movement is founded on.

Trash-talk on the HQ blogs is counter productive. I've never heard Barack attack any opponent's character, family, religion, or private life. Obama is a man of integrity. He's a role model for our nation. Let's follow his lead.

What to do when we feel negative? Of course it's vital to express ourselves. I suggest we write personal blog posts and invite folks to read our latest "rant". In making it a matter of choice, those who are so disposed can join in the venting. Those who don't choose to get involved aren't confronted with our negative thoughts.

To me, this is a win-win situation. We have the opportunity to vent freely and openly without compromising the integrity of our public blogs.

Whatcha think?

Morning cookies are ready. Enjoy!

love and hugs,
auntie b

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By George Jun 20th 2008 at 10:22 am EDT

I want to support the thread Zach started about being civil. The more strongly people feel the more likely they are to think people who disagree are stupid, corrupt, crazy, or bigoted (pick an adjective). This alienates people, blinds us to the possibility that there is SOME truth to the policies they support, and deprives us of an opportunity to find a compromise that works for everyone.

Name calling is particularly ineffective. How many of you would take an argument that started by calling Senator Obama, Nobama (as so many anti Obama posts on the internet do)seriously?

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By Wyoming Elaine (formerly Rock'nObama~forTruth) Jun 20th 2008 at 11:01 am EDT

Zach, thank you for your thoughtful post.
I offen am alarmed and saddened to find the disrespectful and curt dismissiveness shown to others on our OB blogs. I scoot right past these outbursts, but find that I am less comfortable here than I use to be. I don't post often and am not able to visit often, but I love this Obama community. Thankfully, the overwhelming majority of folks who post here are uplifting OB family bloggers who cheer us up, share valuable resourses, pass on worthy information, and engage in intelligent dialogue. To those who raise up up .... thank you! Let's be kind to one another... long ago a wise person once said.... Love your enemies!

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By Catherine of Riverdale, IL Jun 20th 2008 at 2:26 pm EDT

Zach...
How absolutely excellent. This blog is a place where we can learn new behavior. We can strive to make changes in ourselves...we can be better. If we don't, then how can we say "yes we can" and really mean it.

I want us...the Obama-Nation...to present ourselves with the ultimate in character. I am suggesting that it is not enough to be polite to someone, we must be kind because that is who we are. It should be effortless. I would like kindness, and fairness to be part of our DNA. For those of you who agree, please respond. I think it would be splendid to develop an ongoing online etiquette experience for us. Okay Obamaians...what do you say?

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By mshazen Jun 20th 2008 at 2:45 pm EDT

Well said I came from HRC and I have always felt comfortable here. Even when the few negative HRC things are posted rarley does anyone respond.

Honestly, I understand it long and sometimes tough, but, when I put all my Clinton things away and I had many I worked hard for her campaign (as I plan to for Obama) I wasn't sad or mad I was thrilled to be a part of something that hasn't happened in a long time people actually caring about what is happening to our country.

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By Czarina rhiannon hussein aka le chat Jun 20th 2008 at 12:59 am EDT

going to find about money raised soon?

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By ED-“Wasilla Hillbillies Looting Nieman Marcus Right To Center” My Friends We got Em Where We Want Em Hehe 1600 Pennsylvania Ave Jun 20th 2008 at 1:01 am EDT

Sandy UT in the house

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By ED-“Wasilla Hillbillies Looting Nieman Marcus Right To Center” My Friends We got Em Where We Want Em Hehe 1600 Pennsylvania Ave Jun 20th 2008 at 1:02 am EDT

Sandy UT in the house

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By Catherine of Riverdale, IL Jun 20th 2008 at 2:28 pm EDT

Good Heavens Ed :-}
Did you propose!! I hope so, what a magnificent thing.

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By A Dork Who Prefers to Act Instead of React Jun 20th 2008 at 1:04 am EDT

i think tomorrow maybe

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By Lace; Yes We Did Jun 20th 2008 at 1:17 am EDT

Tomorrow or the day after, if the limit really is the 20th like I think it is.

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By Sheela N Jun 20th 2008 at 7:18 am EDT

I think we can expect to see some really high numbers. Although Senator McCain had his highest month yet, I have a feeling that Senator Obama will have raised at least double of what Senator McCain raised.

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By sheilasnewyork Jun 20th 2008 at 1:00 am EDT

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By V-Day Jun 20th 2008 at 1:41 am EDT

Independence from a broken system. Let's get this goal finished on time and in time.
Make this deliverable happen! We Can Do This.

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By Catherine of Riverdale, IL Jun 20th 2008 at 2:41 pm EDT

Hey Everybody!
Don't forget about the 28th. We are supposed to meet at someones house or invite others to house to develop unity. I am definitely going to do that. I hope everyone else does too. Just imagine how awesome we would be. We are all trying to unite right now. If Hillary can begin to campaign with Barach, then we can meet and develop more power through unity. I love it !!

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By A Soldier's tears... OF JOY!!!!!!!!!!! Jun 20th 2008 at 1:00 am EDT

I would glady except a donation today for a hamburger tomorrow :)

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By A Dork Who Prefers to Act Instead of React Jun 20th 2008 at 1:02 am EDT

awww, wimpy! (admitting my age, ha ha)

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By Patty in Colorado Jun 20th 2008 at 1:37 am EDT

recognized THAT quote immediately (visions of Wimpy with a stack of burgers).......oh, popeye....my heeeeeeerrrrrO~~~~

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By sheilasnewyork Jun 20th 2008 at 1:02 am EDT

I hate when it says 0 comments

and I always think I'm first!!

Oh well....Good morning from New York City!!

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By Cherron in SW Virginia Jun 20th 2008 at 1:37 am EDT

I am itching to go back to NYC. Love that city. What is it looking like up there?? I haven't been since Labor Day weekend. Wouldn't a rally in Central Park be cooooool.....

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By sheilasnewyork Jun 20th 2008 at 2:09 am EDT

The rally in Washington Square Park last Sept. was beyond belief!!

New York is the deal. I love it!

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By sb Jun 20th 2008 at 1:02 am EDT

Does anyone know when the limited edition print from the last blog will be available?

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By Jeffrey from Highland, CA who is going to meet President Obama at the Inauguration in January Jun 20th 2008 at 1:09 am EDT

You can put your order in now. The last poster sold out before they began to ship them.

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By Jen who will celebrate this November with a Obama win!! Jun 20th 2008 at 1:10 am EDT

You can order now...

Go to this link

Link

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By sb Jun 20th 2008 at 1:12 am EDT

I actually already ordered, I was just wondering if anyone knew when they might ship as they say they areu=currently unavailable

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By Cherron in SW Virginia Jun 20th 2008 at 1:31 am EDT

I've already ordered too. They sell out fast so get it if you want it now.

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By Barack916 Jun 20th 2008 at 1:04 am EDT

Greetings, fellow late evening Obama bloggers.

Another good day for Barack, I'd say. I like the new ad playing in 18 key states.

Let's put everything in play.

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By YOLA Jun 20th 2008 at 1:09 am EDT

I love it too! The pic of him with this gramps is just great - they look so much alike!

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By FreedomTwo Jun 20th 2008 at 1:25 am EDT

I, too, was touched by that photo; it's a wonderful photo!

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By Sweetzie1 Jun 20th 2008 at 6:53 am EDT

I saw the new ad too and it's fabulous!

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By Val in AZ 4 Obama Jun 20th 2008 at 1:12 am EDT

I'll second that motion Chris...
"I think AZ will look really pretty all dressed up in BLUE!
Let's get it doe... right here in McCain's own backyard.... Now wouldn't that make a great headline story?? Will be dreaming for that one tonight.

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By Barack916 Jun 20th 2008 at 1:18 am EDT

Watching these polls and trends everyday and seeing states like Georgia, North Carolina, Virginia, Alaska, (and even Arizona--wouldn't that be amazing!) enter the picture--and leading in OH and PA and FL. It just feels good.

And there is not one ounce of me that feels like getting complacent.

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By FreedomTwo Jun 20th 2008 at 1:33 am EDT

Yes; none of us can be complacent; I remember when Dukakis held a 17-point lead over Bush Sr. and lost; I was sick for two weeks! Many people accused Michael Dukakis of complacency; I have to admit I was one; however, I was also in my early twenties and foolishly “believed” what the media reported. Then, I watched an interview with him –just a few short years ago. He stated, "I did campaign and campaigned my heart out; what I never expected or could even imagine was how despicable and low the Bush campaign would be and go. I never imagined anyone could be that contemptible."

How true! I learned a lot from the 1988 Dukakis campaign; it broke my heart but made me more determined than ever to fight back against these evil attacks!

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By Barack916 Jun 20th 2008 at 1:38 am EDT

Yup. And we're not going to let any sort of complacency set in this time.

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By FreedomTwo Jun 20th 2008 at 1:39 am EDT

AMEN!

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By FreedomTwo Jun 20th 2008 at 2:30 am EDT

This is one of my personal favorites when defending my Party loyalty and staunch support of Sen. Obama.

"A Day in the Life of Joe Republican"

Joe gets up at 6:00am to prepare his morning coffee. He fills his pot full of good clean drinking water because some liberal fought for minimum water quality standards. He takes his daily medication with his first swallow of coffee. His medications are safe to take because some liberal fought to insure their safety and work as advertised.

All but $10.00 of his medications are paid for by his employers medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance, now Joe gets it too. He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs this day. Joe’s bacon is safe to eat because some liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry.

Joe takes his morning shower reaching for his shampoo; His bottle is properly labeled with every ingredient and the amount of its contents because some liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained. Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some tree hugging liberal fought for laws to stop industries from polluting our air. He walks to the subway station for his government subsidized ride to work; it saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees. You see, some liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.

Joe begins his work day; he has a good job with excellent pay, medicals benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some liberal union members fought and died for these working standards. Joe’s employer pays these standards because Joe’s employer doesn’t want his employees to call the union. If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed he’ll get a worker compensation or unemployment check because some liberal didn’t think he should lose his home because of his temporary misfortune.

Its noon time, Joe needs to make a Bank Deposit so he can pay some bills. Joe’s deposit is federally insured by the FSLIC because some liberal wanted to protect Joe’s money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the depression.

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By FreedomTwo Jun 20th 2008 at 2:32 am EDT

cont'd

Joe has to pay his Fannie Mae underwritten Mortgage and his below market federal student loan because some stupid liberal decided that Joe and the government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money over his life-time.

Joe is home from work, he plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive to dads; his car is among the safest in the world because some liberal fought for car safety standards. He arrives at his boyhood home. He was the third generation to live in the house financed by Farmers Home Administration because bankers didn’t want to make rural loans. The house didn’t have electric until some big government liberal stuck his nose where it didn’t belong and demanded rural electrification. (Those rural Republican’s would still be sitting in the dark)

He is happy to see his dad who is now retired. His dad lives on Social Security and his union pension because some liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Joe wouldn’t have to. After his visit with dad he gets back in his car for the ride home.

He turns on a radio talk show, the host’s keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. (He doesn’t tell Joe that his beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys throughout his day) Joe agrees, “We don’t need those big government liberals ruining our lives; after all, I’m a self made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have”.

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By Val in AZ 4 Obama Jun 20th 2008 at 3:03 am EDT

WOW... loved that post... hope you don't mind if I copy/paste and print that one out a few times. Thanks for posting

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By FreedomTwo Jun 20th 2008 at 3:06 am EDT

Go for it; we're ALL in this together! Copy, paste, print and most important, DISTRIBUTE, away!

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By Val in AZ 4 Obama Jun 20th 2008 at 3:20 am EDT

Thanks Freedom... absolutely will be keeping a few copies of this one in my car for when people question my Obama bumper sticker... and I just don't seem to have the right answers to their questions... I can just hand them a copy of this... Maybe I'll just make cover sheet for it too... in very large letters...
"YES, I'm a Liberal"
"YES, I'm very proud to be campaining for Barack Obama to be the next President of the United States"
" YES, you might just want to read the following to know WHY I'm voting the way I am"

Thanks again for your post.

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By FreedomTwo Jun 20th 2008 at 3:33 am EDT

You're all very welcome; I'm glad you like it; it is VERY useful, trust me. I’m a "chardonnay-drinking, liberal, elitist, appeasing snob!" (Keep having to add to the list). AND, I was born and raised in San Francisco to boot! I stated here the other night, I'm going to be a whole lot of things before this is over --LOL! And I'll where all the labels like a badge of honor!

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By Cindii *Obama blue sweetie* Jun 20th 2008 at 3:16 am EDT

I know lol! I just sent a copy to my brother. :-D

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By FreedomTwo Jun 20th 2008 at 4:04 am EDT

Here’s another one I use to defend my Party loyalty and support of Sen. Obama!

Written as speaking to George W. Bush (and could be McCain!)

Okay George W. Bush, I'll lay your incompetence and deplorable Administration out for you via the Iraq Invasion!! YOU told us that we were invading Iraq to destroy their weapons of mass destruction. Then YOU said those weapons probably don't exist. Apparently that didn't matter. Except that it does matter. I know in your "support the troops" mindset, we're not supposed to say that, as you then call us "unpatriotic."

But it's also called honesty, and dishonesty matters. 1.) It matters that the infrastructure of a foreign nation that couldn't defend itself against us has been destroyed on the grounds that it was a military threat to the world. 2.) It matters that it was destroyed by us under a new doctrine of "pre-emptive war" when there was apparently nothing worth pre-empting. 3.) It surely matters to the families here whose sons went to war to make the world safe from weapons of mass destruction and will never come home. 4.) It matters to families in the United States whose life support programs were ended, whose medical insurance ran out, whose day care programs were eliminated so we could spend the money on sending an army to do what did not need to be done. 5.) It matters to the Iraqi girl whose face was burned by a lamp that toppled over as a result of a U.S. bombing run. 6.) It matters to Ali, the young Iraqi boy who lost his family and both arms in a U.S. air attack. 7.) It matters to the people in Baghdad whose water supply is now fetid, whose electricity is gone, whose streets are unsafe, whose 158 government ministries' buildings and all their records have been destroyed, whose cultural heritage and social system has been looted and whose cities teem with anti-American protests. 8.) It matters that the people we say we "liberated" do not feel liberated in the midst of the lawlessness, destruction, civil war and wholesale social suffering that so-called liberation created. 9.) It matters to the United Nations whose integrity was impugned, whose authority was denied, whose inspection teams were overlooked in the process of technical evaluation and disarmament.

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By FreedomTwo Jun 20th 2008 at 4:05 am EDT

cont'd

10.) It matters to the reputation of the United States in the eyes of the world, both now and for decades to come. 11.) And surely it matters to the integrity of this nation whether or not its intelligence gathering agencies have any real intelligence or not before we launch a military armada on its say-so. 12.) And it should matter whether or not our government is either incompetent (and YOU are) and didn't know what they were doing (but YOU did) or were dishonest and refused to say (this IS it!).
The unspoken truth is that either as a people we were misled or we were lied to, about the real reason for this war. Either we made a huge and unforgivable mistake; which I personally believe, as I believe you lied to us; or an arrogant or ignorant mistake, (thus your incompetence); or we are swaggering around the world like a blind giant, flailing in all directions while the rest of the world watches in horror or ridicule.

If Bill Clinton's definition of "is" matters, surely this matters. If a president's sex life matters, surely a president's use of global force against some of the weakest people in the world matters. If a president's word in a court of law about a private indiscretion matters, surely a president's word to the community of nations and the security of millions of people matters. And if not, why not? If not, surely there is something as wrong with us as citizens, as thinkers, as there must be with some facet of the government. If a war that the majority of Americans say is "wrong" but YOU deem them "right", what kind of national morality is that? Of what are we really capable as a nation if the considered judgment of politicians and people around the world means nothing to us as a people? What is the depth of the American soul if we can allow destruction to be done in our name and the name of "liberation" and YOU, at a point refused to give an accounting of its costs, both personal and public? We like to take comfort in the notion that people make a distinction between our government and ourselves.

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By FreedomTwo Jun 20th 2008 at 4:06 am EDT

cont'd

We like to say that the people of the world love Americans, they simply mistrust our government. But excoriating a distant and anonymous "government" for wreaking rubble on a nation in pretence of good requires very little of either character or intelligence. What may count most, however, is that we ALMOST became the ones Proverbs warns when it reminds us: "Kings take pleasure in honest lips; they value the one who speaks the truth." The point is clear: If the people speak and the KING doesn't listen, there is something wrong with the KING. If the KING acts precipitously and the people say nothing, something is wrong with the people. Americans have realized that in a country that prides itself on being democratic, we are our government. And the rest of the world is figuring that out very quickly - thanks to you George W. Bush!! From where I stand, that matters!!

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By Pat Canady Jun 20th 2008 at 10:04 am EDT

Hi Val,
Pima County (AZ) and the other So. AZ counties are certainly going to be Obama Country!!! I am so glad McCain declared AZ as a SWING STATE. We will swing Barack Obama right into the White House.

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By Talkeasy-V.O.B. Jun 20th 2008 at 1:05 am EDT

I always put my money where my mouth is. lol

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By mshazen Jun 20th 2008 at 2:58 pm EDT

Me too. Pima county even my republican husband (yea I know I am a lifelong Dem married to a repub things get interesting around our house) he will not be voting for McCAIN.

I had him reading the Obama tax plan last night, so here is hoping.

He is a very moderate republican so we will see, he can't stand Bush so I have some leverage.

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By 73071 Jun 20th 2008 at 1:06 am EDT

As I was saying before I was rudely interrupted with another thread and it said ZERO comments and I had the twinge of hope that perhaps I could be first.

Reason 1 (Why Lace should be class president). Lace brought me Fire Fox

Reason 2 Lace started Obamacycle

Reason 3 To Be Provided by We Canninites

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By 73071 Jun 20th 2008 at 1:13 am EDT

Reason 3: Lace committed to leaving no blogger behind.

Reason 4:

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By T Jones Jun 20th 2008 at 1:06 am EDT

that's a big deal for me! lol...anyone care to donate to my fundraiser? Fired Up and Ready to Go in North Hollywood!

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By sheilasnewyork Jun 20th 2008 at 1:06 am EDT

Since Barack has opted out of public financing

Please click on my name above and donate to my fundraising page

I'd like to make my goal by July 4th
It's been awhile since I've gotten any hits!!

My fundraising page is dedicated to all living on fixed incomes....to give them a voice in this campaign!

**VETS**SENIORS**DISABLED**UNE MPLOYED**

Lets give them a hand!

thanx
!

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By FreedomTwo Jun 20th 2008 at 1:38 am EDT

McCain's being his usual "self" (don't want to get in trouble)!

What I LOVE is the unity here; James Carville is blasting McWAR and others, saying "these people don't know what's going on..." He's defending Obama and Carville ALWAYS wins; whether you like him or not, it's always great to have Carville on your side; and right now, he's doing Sen. Obama "well"! Carville is "eating these guys' lunch", it's wonderful to see Carville slamming these guys and defending Sen. Obama.

Unity & Obama '08!

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By Cindii *Obama blue sweetie* Jun 20th 2008 at 3:31 am EDT

Yeah, I saw that earlier today. He defended Barack, but you could tell that his heart wasn't in it.

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By mshazen Jun 20th 2008 at 3:28 pm EDT

To say his heart was not in it is a little unfair. Carville is and old and dear friend of the CLinton family. He said that if she did not win he would back Obama and he was right there fighting for him.

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By Val in AZ 4 Obama Jun 20th 2008 at 1:08 am EDT

I posted this on tail end of last thread... yet again...LOL.. Thanks for the "NBLB" link... yet again..

I'm finally back, after my major Computer Hiccup session at top of thread... I took a virtual drink of water and think it's cured now... LOL

I want to thank all of my friends for their wonderful support today... please know that I appreciate you all so very much and that I just love blogging here with all of you.

Sending big smiles to everyone currently on the blog... Ok on the count of 3 everybody smile !

1....2....3.... GO!

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By Jen who will celebrate this November with a Obama win!! Jun 20th 2008 at 1:11 am EDT

Grin... ;D

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By Val in AZ 4 Obama Jun 20th 2008 at 1:16 am EDT

Right back at ya Jen... lets keep the smiles going here

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By Lace; Yes We Did Jun 20th 2008 at 1:15 am EDT

*re-smile!*

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By Val in AZ 4 Obama Jun 20th 2008 at 1:25 am EDT

Back at you too Lace... Thanks

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By Ehuzu Hussein - We Built It Up! Thanks to All - Obama/Biden: The Change We Need to Keep the American Promise Alive Jun 20th 2008 at 3:59 am EDT

*re-smile* :D
YES WE CAN!

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By mshazen Jun 20th 2008 at 3:11 pm EDT

You might not think his heart is in it but his mouth is and like him or not, he is one of the few the MSM will actually put on that can overtalk the republican pundits they face off against.

I notice that whom ever they have representing the more liberal side is usually fairly quiet and does not say much. The host usually lets the Repub interrupt and they do nothing to control them. Carville can be abrasive for some people's taste but he is important.

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By A Dork Who Prefers to Act Instead of React Jun 20th 2008 at 1:17 am EDT

Help make it go viral and DIGG it here
Link

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By Barack916 Jun 20th 2008 at 1:28 am EDT

Jonathan Alter puts the smack down on Lars Larson in that clip. Dan Abrams is okay, but I find that he too often takes the wrong tack. With Larson, all he needs to say at some point is, "Sir, you're just completely and factually wrong. Michelle's own life and words have thoroughly proven you wrong. You have no case and no credibility. Good bye."

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By LA Jun 20th 2008 at 10:23 am EDT

Dugg!

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By Pakakele Jun 20th 2008 at 4:23 am EDT

Dugg!

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By President Obama!!! Jun 20th 2008 at 1:18 am EDT

There is clearly double standard. If you don't have the "normal" appearance, then your patriotism is challenged.

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By ISACK ENABLE Jun 20th 2008 at 1:21 am EDT

It is called RACISM !

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By Trish - Working To Elect That One Jun 20th 2008 at 3:08 am EDT

McCain doesn't look "normal" to me. He looks like a man who thinks he is still young and imagines himself attractive, instead of settling into his age with good grace.

Now Obama - well it always makes me laugh that white people (I am one but don't do this) spend hours and hours baking in the sun, risking skin cancer, all to obtain a nice, dark tan, yet some of these condemn a natural "tan". Most odd.

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By Jude Jun 20th 2008 at 1:27 am EDT

Dan is standing up for Michelle, but unfortunately even he is misquoting her!

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By Barack916 Jun 20th 2008 at 1:42 am EDT

Right - I noticed that, too. Like I said, he's okay in getting the big picture pretty accurately--that the hypocrisy and disingenuous outrage from the right wing on this issue is deafening. But he could be making the point more clearly, powerfully, and succinctly without the insta-bickering format.

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By FreedomTwo Jun 20th 2008 at 1:46 am EDT

I posted this above; it seems more fitting here!

Good evening all!! I hope no one minds my ranting right now; however, I just heard yet ANOTHER false reporting about Michelle Obama and the "proud" comment!! Does ANYONE in the news get it right?

Here is what Michelle Obama said, in FULL context. She opened with, "For the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country." She never said "American" --that's another lie from the smear machine; the media has mis-reported it also, and not just Fox News!! Shame on these other stations, too. However, this link should shut the "Neo Con Nut Job Smear Machine up" --but it won't; there isn't enough duct tape in the world to shut the members of this club up!

Link

"Other" stations, in addition to Fox News, have mis-reported this from DAY ONE; I find it disgraceful; and I found it "disgraceful" when I was supporting Hillary Clinton during the primaries. I’ve had to go online and research things after the news has reported during this campaign; they’re so caught up with “being first to report”, or spinning and bias, that even stations that would ordinarily do better, haven’t. It’s why so many people are confused at what Michelle Obama really did say; her speech was actually “touching” in my opinion. She appears to have been really speaking from her heart; I both appreciate and admire that. This mis-reporting is just one more example of why I've been so sickened with the media coverage during this campaign.

Thank you for allowing me this outlet to rant!

What I love about this country | Report to Admin

By Veritas Jun 20th 2008 at 1:09 am EDT

Repost...I made it over to the other thread a bit late :)

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I went outside the country for college, and came back with a profound appreciation of the opportunities our country affords us.

In America, unique au monde, the "American Dream" is still alive - it is the one place in the world where with hard work, thrift, determination, education, dedication, and ingenuity you can truly better yourself and your family. It may be hard - there may be many barriers and "glass ceilings" - but it can still be done. In other countries, even developed and prosperous ones, you are still limited by your social class, your family name, or any of a hundred other stratifying factors.

It is because of this that I decided I needed to give something back to my country, for all the opportunities it had given me, my family, and all other Americans. I decided to join the military as my way of giving back a few years to my country and I'm still on active duty.

America is by no means perfect but it is still the most incredible country in the world and I am dedicated to making it all it can be - one of the reasons I have volunteered, donated, and worked hard for this campaign.

We are the ones we have been waiting for!

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By 73071 Jun 20th 2008 at 1:20 am EDT

You are right. And because of our commitment to educating everyone, we have the ability to participate fully as citizens. We have the ability to be sophisticated participants in self-government. Unfortunately, we have to be made very uncomfortable before collectively we will get off our apathetic bits and get involved, but we always carry within us a powerful "I can't stand it any more" initiative within in us, and the know how to respond.

The key is for those of us who are involved even when things are comfortable to stay engaged with those who ebb and flow, so that in times like this we can step up and clean up the mess that failed leadership causes.

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By New_Zealand_Loves_Obama Jun 20th 2008 at 1:25 am EDT

Sierra club endorses Obama

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By Trueblue Jun 20th 2008 at 1:40 pm EDT

bonjour de la suisse!

having very fond memories of the States, all I can say is good on you for airing what are simple basic truths.

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By Invincible Jun 20th 2008 at 1:12 am EDT

No evil shall prosper against Obama and his family!

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By Invincible Jun 20th 2008 at 1:18 am EDT

Had to get that off of my chest, anyway this is totally off subject but has anyone ever seen this video?

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I seem to be the only who thinks that it is not so funny, but all of my friends cry laughing when they see it! LOL! Let me know your opinion :)

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By Lace; Yes We Did Jun 20th 2008 at 1:24 am EDT

Funny? Huh? I want a hit of what your friends were smoking...

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By Invincible Jun 20th 2008 at 1:26 am EDT

LOL! Did you see the comments posted on the video? Everyone thinks it's hilarious, well I guess that means that you and I are the only sane ones....he he he

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By ISACK ENABLE Jun 20th 2008 at 1:32 am EDT

Actually i thought that was dumb!

But what do i know.

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By Invincible Jun 20th 2008 at 1:36 am EDT

Whew, that's great, because I thought that I was the one who was missing some marbles for thinking that it was stupid! Good to know I'm not the only one :)

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By Lace; Yes We Did Jun 20th 2008 at 1:38 am EDT

I second that!

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By Lace; Yes We Did Jun 20th 2008 at 1:34 am EDT

Seriously....

I'd probably have a better chance of laughing at Blues Clues than I would at that! Was there some joke we missed or something?!

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By Invincible Jun 20th 2008 at 1:37 am EDT

(Sigh) I wonder the same thing! LOL

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By Lace; Yes We Did Jun 20th 2008 at 1:43 am EDT

And I'm 16; you'd think that if anyone would laugh at that immature crap, it'd be me.

I didn't find anything about that whatsoever to be funny...not even in the slightest

-they talk funny (not funny)
-the two unicorns jumped on the other unicorn (not funny)
-he gets woken up (not funny)
-they finally get him to go (not funny)
-they get there (not funny)
-the *thing* sings the song infront of the place (not funny)
-he goes inside (not funny)
-he gets locked in (not funny)
-he gets his liver stolen (not funny)

What don't I get?! Absolutely stupid! :)

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By Invincible Jun 20th 2008 at 1:46 am EDT

LOL! I absolutely love the way you dissected the video. he he he

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By Lace; Yes We Did Jun 20th 2008 at 1:58 am EDT

Well, ok, at least something about it is funny :o)

I guess it's not what you say but how you say it LOL

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By Obamasun in MN Jun 20th 2008 at 3:04 am EDT

That is a very old internet viral clip from early 2000, I think. It was dumb then. What are people trying to say exactly? Who cares? Anyway, maybe someone needs to add that if you vote for MC----the unicorn dies because he can't get any healthcare.
Anyway, enough regurgitation. It's great to enjoy all of your thoughts and comments.
Peace!

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By Zach Ritter (Austin, TX) Jun 20th 2008 at 1:32 am EDT

Oh gosh.

I know quite a few people who think this is absolutely hilarious. I guess it was worth a chuckle at the end but I've certainly laughed a lot more.

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By Cherron in SW Virginia Jun 20th 2008 at 1:45 am EDT

If any of you are fans of Katt Williams, there is an absolutley histerical video of him on youtube regarding our man Barack and Hill and Bush. I will not post a link because it is adults only but if you like him and his comedy, pull up 'katt williams obama get your funnny' and you will laugh yourself to death. It is sooooo funny.

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By Invincible Jun 20th 2008 at 1:49 am EDT

I'm watching as we speak! He he he

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By Cherron in SW Virginia Jun 20th 2008 at 1:50 am EDT

'hysterical'

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By Cherron in SW Virginia Jun 20th 2008 at 1:53 am EDT

Put in "Katt Williams Obama". For some reason 'get your funny' isn't pulling it up!!!

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By Anthony in N.C. Jun 20th 2008 at 1:14 am EDT

Ole Lou Dobbs should love that word "Independence". It seems that the campaign may have to set that goal a little higher before it is all said and done.

I will be glad we can declare the White House independent of lobbyists and current administrations. Of course, there will be only one lobbying group -- the American people.

Goodnight to everyone!!!

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By Barack916 Jun 20th 2008 at 1:16 am EDT

I love watching the numbers get updated on the "Independence from a Broken System" banner. 41,000 and counting. I think we're going to bust right through that July 4th goal of 50,000... like soon.

I've never seen anything like this in politics.

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By Zach Ritter (Austin, TX) Jun 20th 2008 at 1:17 am EDT

Look at the post below you. Eerily similar. :)

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By Zach Ritter (Austin, TX) Jun 20th 2008 at 1:16 am EDT

I like how the campaign made the goal of 50,000 donors to occur before July 4th but it will be fulfilled in less than 48 hours.

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By Lace; Yes We Did Jun 20th 2008 at 1:18 am EDT

I know...

I remember the first ticker I ever saw here (last summer), and the goal was a minuscule $500,000!

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By Julia from Pasadena Jun 20th 2008 at 9:14 am EDT

Wasn't it fun, blasting through the campaigns goals. They would set them and we would quadruple them. Then they would set the next ones higher, and we would blow through them too.

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By S v K Jun 20th 2008 at 1:18 am EDT

Age Poll continued......

So it does seem to hold true that political interest is definitely high between the ages of 35 and beyond......

....I must confess that I did not vote until I was in my mid thirties...sooo sad but true..........Of course I was still a raging drunk, but that is no excuse....I mean look at Winston Churchill, he was drinking and very engaged in the process ;-)

SvK