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Christopher Hass
- Jun 8th, 2008 at 3:12 am EDT
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A very late night Open Thread, for the true diehards. You know who you are . . .
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Ms Ray
Jun 8th 2008 at 3:20 am EDT
I'm a diehard. Good Morning, (soon to be) President Barack Obama.
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Jennifer in TX☺One Voice Can Make a Difference☺
Jun 8th 2008 at 3:22 am EDT
FIRED UP & READY TO GO!!!!
anyone wanna donate to my first FR page? let's turn up the heat on McCain!
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Scott from Australia
Jun 8th 2008 at 3:35 am EDT
Just read the text for Hillary's speech. Sounded like a fantastic endorsement. Thanks Hillary! And thanks to all of us supporters coming together from both sides to achieve a more perfect union. Jan 20 here we come! Regards Scott
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Marita
Jun 8th 2008 at 3:58 am EDT
I saw 16 minutes of the video then it stopped. Do you have a link to the text?
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Scott from Australia
Jun 8th 2008 at 4:03 am EDT
Link
there you go!
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Marita
Jun 8th 2008 at 4:11 am EDT
I tried twice to watch the video but both times it stopped at around SIX minutes. So thanks for the text.
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Foreigner
Jun 8th 2008 at 4:19 am EDT
The full 30 minutes is available at cnn.com/video at
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. Its in two parts. Select "Politics" under "By Section" tab.
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Jara from CA
Jun 8th 2008 at 4:42 am EDT
Also can be seen on YouTube here:
Part 1
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Part 2
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Ericka for Obama -Change is Good!
Jun 8th 2008 at 6:50 am EDT
I winced when I saw some of the clinton headliners.
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Opsimath44
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:22 am EDT
Class, from day one until the job is done, and from head to toe.
This campaign, this candidate, and this group of volunteers is just dripping with class.
Piece of Evidence #237: The link on the homepage here asking Barack supporters to send a word of thanks to Ms. Clinton.
Barack is going to win this thing not because of any one specific thing, not one silver bullet that the pundits can then dissect, label, package and market to future candidates. He is going to win because of the entire enchilada, not because of any one factor.
Read today's lame "What Went Wrong" feature in the NYT. They asked an assortment of folks what went wrong with the Clinton campaign, and the result is a mix of rationalization and the political corollary to the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle (the process of analyzing something impacts that which you are analyzing). Everyone is looking for that Sherlock Holmesian "a-ha!" moment, when the fact of the matter is quite simply, she was good, he was better.
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Penn: It was the message (that I wrote), it was the money (that they over-payed me)?
Lost Friends: Let's slice and dice the American people into convenient demographic packages, even if it doesn't make sense. (They call all of us, instead of Barack this time, "elitists." I'll take that as a compliment.)
Christine Todd Whitman: It was sexism, plain and simple. (Please remember that Hillary was the first to say that she reminded some voters of their first wife, and yet when someone else says that they are sexist. Meanwhile, it's not sexist to vote for her simply because she's a woman.)
Michelle Cottle: No one really wanted to vote for her but they needed a good excuse, and eventually everyone found one. (Couldn't that explanation explain nearly everything in life? "It was going to happen that way, as soon as it did." Rather tautological, isn't it?)
And they go on...
Why the rush to proclaim some magical formula to the political process? How about, quite simply: She was good, he was better?
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A shameless hopemonger... and an unabashed truthmonger
Jun 8th 2008 at 9:42 am EDT
Hopefully soon everyone will stop asking "what went wrong with the Clinton campaign?" and focus more on "what went right with the Obama camapign?"
It would truly be a powerful thing to have people analyze what happens when leaders (and potential leaders)inspires people to work towards a higher purposea and to focus on principles of unification rather than division, and allows individuals from the bottom up to use their creativity and initiative. Now THAT'S a discussion worth having!
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Vero - fired up, ready to go for year 2 of the Obama presidency
Jun 8th 2008 at 11:12 am EDT
This reminds me of when Obama said in his speech on Tuesday night that he respects McCain for his service and his accomplishments, even though he chooses to deny Obama's accomplishments.
That goes for a lot of the establishment. They think he's just a rock star, an "American Idol." They don't get that he's got so much more underneath the calm, cool, and collective demeanor and the superb speaking skills.
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Vero - fired up, ready to go for year 2 of the Obama presidency
Jun 8th 2008 at 11:50 am EDT
I agree. I never quite understand what people mean by "he came from nowhere." I think because he doesn't have a "family name" people think he came from nowhere. But if you take your time and look at his bio...he was on track for political greatness since Columbia.
The man has a vision and you can't bottle that up.
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Jun 14th 2008 at 9:44 am EDT
Yes we can
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Dorothy from White Salmon, WA
Jun 8th 2008 at 2:27 pm EDT
Where do you get your figure "40 Million" people? I don't think he got over 18 million votes.
Also, what qualifications would Donna Brazile bring to the job Secretary of State? Surely you wouldn't expect him to choose her because of the color of her skin, because she has NO qualifications. I certainly think Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden or even Bill Richardson would bring more experience to the job of Secretary of State than Donna Brazile who runs campaigns for a living.
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Sir Ichigo "Hussein" Kurosaki a "Bitter" wrightous man [..Amen..] and unrepentent fox hunting elitist....
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:49 am EDT
Probably posted before but it warrants repetition.
Baracks address to H.Q : The challenge ahead
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Diane, Donna and Denise
Jun 8th 2008 at 9:42 am EDT
Please keep repeating-this puts our role as supporters and volunteers in great perspective. We MUST win in November!
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Janice
Jun 8th 2008 at 1:42 pm EDT
I love Obama's charge to his campaign HQ in Chicago: Our country is depending on you.
How about "Our Country Is Depending On US!" as our grassroots slogan to take us to the White House?
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:52 pm EDT
Yes we can
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Whitney Hussein
Jun 8th 2008 at 10:30 am EDT
Hey Obama Family:
I am a delegate at the Texas Convention that just adjorned VERY late last night. I haven't slept much and I am exhausted, so if what I write below is somewhat out of whack, please forgive me in advance.
To make a long story short, I feel totally bewildered. My disappointment extends beyond my own feelings. Without going into a lot of detail, I feel deeply saddened at some of the things that I have witnessed tonight, in particular how the At-Large Delegates were "selected" and quite frankly, it makes me want to throw in the towel and not come ten feet within politics for the rest of my natural life! It is absolutely the WORST feeling to be surrounded by hundreds of people who endure 18-hour days on end who walk away feeling cheated.
Many first-time participants were at the Texas Democratic Convention. However, I feel like my hopes were totally stepped on because I don't have a particular name, affiliation or profession/bank roll. This convention will be my first and LAST.
I am a 29-year-old graduate student who has been unemployed (NOT by choice) for over a year. Instead of sitting around feeling sad, I decided to volunteer, knock on doors, etc. during the entire primary season. Sometimes in snow, sometimes getting flipped off, yelled at and doors slammed in my face. Other times, getting quite the opposite effect of having Obama supporters welcome me in their houses and share stories about the Civil Rights era, Mark Twain and their favorite "Obama" moments.
I accepted a position to volunteer as an Obama Organizing Fellow (it's a non-paying position) this summer and I am seriously thinking about NOT DOING IT ANYMORE because it feels like working hard isn't rewarded. It's not about getting glory, but frankly at this point I want to quit. I am totally broke and don't want to spend my final pennies in the bank account on a one-way ticket from Texas to Philly, to work for free AGAIN for three months, just to be denied later an "invitation" to the events that really count and to be compensated so that I can actually LIVE.
I am tired, and I want to quit. I can't take it anymore. I volunteered in so many states, made thousands of calls and now I feel like the door has slammed shut in my face. THE END.
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MullerOhana: YES WE CAN, bitch.
Jun 8th 2008 at 10:39 am EDT
sorry for your troubles whitney. If you can't afford or don't feel intrinsically rewarded from volunteering, maybe you should not do it any more. You must remember that volunteer work is often a thankless and unrecognized endeavor, and it should be done for the cause, not for your own personal fulfillment.
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Whitney Hussein
Jun 8th 2008 at 10:45 am EDT
You're absolutely right! Believe me, it was never about me :) I was only getting flipped off for Obama (smile) :) I guess it's just weird seeing these mind-boggling fundraising goals they've achieved and to have to decided between staying on course with the campaign, or staying at home and searching for jobs when the nation is facing the highest jobless rate in 22 years...the decision seems clear to me...
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Claudia from Louisville, KY
Jun 8th 2008 at 11:15 am EDT
Hi Whitney. I hope you get some well-deserved rest - sounds like you earned it! Somewhere I read about the first Dem. convention Barack went to- his credit card was denied when he tried to rent a car, and he couldn't get access to anywhere that mattered- he had to watch it all on TV! So my point is, try not to get too discouraged. Barack didn't let that stop him from doing important work. It never feels good to be excluded- but being shut out doesn't mean you have to be shut down.
Maybe seeng Obama elected will make you feel better. Because if that happens, you really have helped to make it possible!
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Arizona Charlie
Jun 8th 2008 at 11:52 am EDT
Hi Whitney,
I'll echo what a lot of folks have already said - Thank you. You're efforts have truly paid dividends, and you have participated in a history-making process. It's sometimes difficult to see those accomplishments when you're right in the middle of things and exhausted from your efforts. Once you manage to string together a few good nights' rest, it will come into greater focus.
That being said, don't be afraid to take care of yourself! If you need to find some work and make some money, do it. If you're going to be effective at achieving your goals, you need to be healthy, you need to eat right, you need to sleep restfully, and that's all very hard to do when you have personal concerns hanging over your head.
Another poster suggested temp work (which is what I do to keep the bills paid while trying to juggle school, kids, and my volunteer activities). It's a good gig. Whether you do this at your home base, or you do it in Philadelphia, it helps and puts you more in charge of your schedule. Find a nationwide agency so they can help find positions for you when you go from place to place, if you want to stay with the campaign.
Most of all, know that your efforts are appreciated. I can't go on the road for the cause, because I have kids I need to take care of. When you go out there, you're doing it for 10, 20, 100 people like me.
Bravo sister. Just don't kill yourself doing it, okay? We'd really like to see you at the victory celebrations!
Charlie in Arizona
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Ed
Jun 8th 2008 at 12:44 pm EDT
Whitney-
Thank you, for doing what i was unable to do!!
Ed (West Orange, NJ)
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Susannah
Jun 8th 2008 at 4:02 pm EDT
Hey Whitney,
It is understandable after all the hard work that you have put in that you would feel upset about the events at the Texas Convention. It became clear to me at the Precinct Convention that I would never make it to the State Convention as a delegate, much less the National Convention. The historical politics of the Democractic Party in Texas is the politics of the past, and who knows who, and "behind closed doors.
So with that in mind, working in the Obama Campaign became my focus. I certainly have not done all you have done..because you obviously have much more energy at your age than I. Sometimes we get tired and need to take a break,
but I hope that you don't do it from bitterness from what happened to you in Austin. Because you have worked in so many places (I only in N.C.,
you have a valuable resource to help where ever you live. So maybe recouping and "Blooming Where Your Planted" is a good idea. When I was in Greensboro, I saw young people who were
worn completely out from the work that they were doing..and when sending out the canvass teams would say..just imagine how tired Barak is. You and all like you are a new force for change, and it can be disappointing at times and so draining.
So take sometime and take care of yourself.
Susannah Lindsay
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Sooz
Jun 8th 2008 at 10:51 am EDT
Dear Whitney,
I don't know what happened at the Texas Convention, but I'm sorry you're feeling so whupped. Now please listen, dear. I am a 60 year old white woman from a rural Nevada mining town. There are a lot of attitudes where I live (very, very RED corner of Nevada). I stand in awe at what's happened in this primary campaign and at the young people, like you, who gave heart and soul to make this miracle happen. You've truly altered the course of history. This is the first time since my teens I've actually been hopeful about my country. Hope has infected me. YOU did that!
Change is hard; it takes sacrifice. Making the sacrifice brings its own rewards, though at times it seems thankless and even foolhardy, but I'd guess that you have a lot to put on your resume as a result of your experience. Certainly you have stories.
It would be cool to have a resume caching facility on this website for young people like you! In the meantime, how about posting one (after getting some well-deserved rest)?
In any case, YES YOU CAN. You've already made a difference in my life.
Susanna
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Prisci
Jun 8th 2008 at 11:10 am EDT
Thank you so much Whitney. you are doing a great job. proud of you.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 11:06 am EDT
First off, huge thanks for all you've done, Whitney. Every act you've done has helped us take our country back, and we are deeply grateful.
Secondly, I hear you, loud and clear. I'm in Iowa, and a delegate. We didn't have the problem you did (no cheating), but it was ridiculously poorly run, inefficient, and a great big testament to what's wrong with politics, even when corruption is not an issue. We have yet another convention this Saturday, and I am not looking forward to it, apart from being able to meet some of the great folks from this blog, like marytnurse. After working with the Obama campaign, which was tightly run, extremely efficient, inclusive, respectful, and of course honest and transparent, everything else is letdown.
But the thing is, Whitney, unless folks like you keep staying involved, keep trying, keep caring, things will just get worse (I'm reminded here of my tag sentence, from the Lorax: "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. It's not.") Individually, we get disgusted and disillusioned, but together we can reform the system, and make it a little more honest, a little more efficient, a little more reflective of this wondrously diverse democracy that is our country.
So thank you, thank you, thank you, for fighting the good fight. Please take a well-deserved rest. But then we need you to get back to work. You are clearly good at what you do, and the whole country needs you to keep doing it. We haven't won this thing yet. But if we keep working even harder, even better, then we most certainly will.
Watch this clip of Barack talking to volunteers and staff. I think you'll find it extremely helpful, especially the last 5 minutes or so:
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Thanks again, Whitney. Even if you don't always get the recognition you have earned, you are one of the heroes of this movement.
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Vero - fired up, ready to go for year 2 of the Obama presidency
Jun 8th 2008 at 11:14 am EDT
That's sad Whitney. What happened, exactly?
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Eomaia
Jun 8th 2008 at 11:18 am EDT
Can you do some temp or part-time work so you have enough money to get by, and still keep volunteering? That way, when the job market is better and you're applying for jobs you really want, your resume can be focused on the volunteer work you did, and not so much on whatever mindless labor you did so you'd be able to pay rent. Employers usually question long stretches of unemployment, and if you settle for a total crap job, then they see you as a McWalmart employee.
Is it too late to get involved in Obama's community building program? It doesn't pay money, but they were looking for people to provide a place to stay for the volunteers.
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Whitney Hussein
Jun 8th 2008 at 11:41 am EDT
Thanks to everyone who has written the encouraging comments. I think I just felt a bit hacked off at the way the 24 At-Large delegates (most of whom, from what I could tell were not even AT THE CONVENTION!) were supposedly "recommended" and eventually picked to go to Denver. The other 3,500 of us who were not, found ourselves wondering why we had to go through all the trouble of not only GETTING TO Austin, but going through all the chaos and disorder that happened last night....at some points, I really felt like I was wasting my time.
I love Barack and I am thrilled to be around for this moment in history, so I am not angry at him at all.
To put it lightly, I guess I'm just pissed off at what's going on in my country, I'm pissed off that I am facing a "mortgage-sized" student loan balance and now that I have been unemployed well over a year now I am at my wit's end! I have called temp agencies, networked, smoozed, even pitching myself to folks that I meet in elevators, grocery stores, etc. to no avail.
I am also pissed off that I am expected to work for free this summer in this Obama program. I didn't have a problem with working for free during the primary season since it's expected that every single penny goes to fundraising for ads, etc. But I guess now my patience is wearing thin and I am just at a loss for words...
Okay, so the options that I have are A.) Stay at home and not participate anymore or B.) Go for broke
What do you all think I should do???
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GoBO 08
Jun 8th 2008 at 11:55 am EDT
Only stay at home if you want to be MORE broke.
Don't believe things can not get worse and WE must change thins now!
Yws WE Can.
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Liz in San Francisco
Jun 8th 2008 at 1:54 pm EDT
Hi, Whitney:
Sorry you feel so frustrated and down. In response to your question about what you can do, here are my suggestions:
1. First off catch up on your sleep, eat properly, and get exercise. You've got to be in shape to let good luck happen to you. If you are exhausted, you're going to be irritable and emotional and no one wants someone like that to work for them.
2. You need some paid work. This has got to be a problem throughout the country, as well as in this campaign. Talk to people at headquarters about organizing a job-finding service using the same techniques as Barack has organized his fund-raising. If you are good on computers, perhaps you can do this. Maybe it can occur through a link from the campaign web site. I live in San Francisco, in the same neighborhood as Craig of Craig's list fame. They started their incredible web site a number of years ago and now everyone can find good jobs and good apartments through Craig's List.
3. Many of us have been in your shoes before. When you are so down, you have to recover before you can really be employable because you are too stressed out right now. Everyone wants to help people who help themselves. Barack is so inspirational that many people just want to drop what they are doing and go to work for him. But unless they are independently wealthy, there is a limit to how much they can do. You can do most for him when you are taking care of yourself first.
4. Check out jobs listed on the Craig's List in your area. What are the skills which you have? Also, talk to paid people you have met in your travels and ask them for advice. If you don't have a place to stay, there is a web site where you can borrow someone's couch. Work as a waiter. There are organizations in San Francisco which help people get hair cuts and appropriate interview clothes for job interviews. Whatever you need, reach out and people will help you get there. But first, you have to get some rest.
Good luck, and thanks for all of your work for Barack. Barack gets exercise every day. We all need to follow his example.
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Susannah
Jun 8th 2008 at 4:06 pm EDT
Dear Whitney,
I just posted comments to part of your discussions, but to this question, you know what you can do. Only you can decide, and I am sure that whatever you decide will be the best. As I said before, you have worked hard and have valuable skills that can be used anyway where, and if you need money that has to be a consideration in your decision.
Susannah Lindsay
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Vero - fired up, ready to go for year 2 of the Obama presidency
Jun 8th 2008 at 11:56 am EDT
It's so funny how the grass is greener on the other side. I'm 29, just got out of law school and have been working at a law firm for 2 years now. My job is very demanding and doesn't allow for a lot of extra-curricular activity. I haven't been able to dedicate much time to the campaign, only money. But I wish I could DO more, and sometimes I think about scaling back my work time, to free up some extra-curricular time. But of course, that would affect my job.
So I say go for it. It's better to spend your time being active and being productive than not. And you never know who you might meet that could open up doors for your jobwise.
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Brandi
Jun 8th 2008 at 12:21 pm EDT
Whitney,
I am the single mother of three children, two sons who are college-aged and a little girl who is 10. I've done everything I can within the confines of having to work and raise them. My 21 year old is living in Mankato and trying to make it to school, work and stay involved in this campaign. He has friends who donate blood for food, and even though he as an A student, and my younger son a football star, I simply could not afford college for them. Its why, recently my dream of winning the lottery now woudl mean to me that if I did, I would save enough for them to be able to attend college and I really believe I'd give the rest fighting to get Barack into office. Its funny because I even dreamed of taking every dime to make Texas blue this year. To me, your efforts are why I keep trying. You, are precisely the reason that in any of my spare time I call and what little money I have left goes to this campaign. People like you all across this country, who when I felt discouraged would offer me up hope. I am ecouraged and inspired when I hear all that you've done. Adding up all that each of us has done has amounted to a primary victory and if we stay engaged, it amounts to a win for this country.
I have been concerned all along that this long primary season would not only divide this party, but it would exhaust those of us who've been working so hard for what seems like years.
I am in hopes, that you rest, assess your personal needs and take advantage of the chance to bring the change that will provide long term opportunity for you. Regardless, Whitney, your efforts have already been worth it. You've already evidenced Change we all can believe in.
Thank you, and I too am envious, this a choice you even have the chance to make.
Brandi
Minneapolis
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Jun 8th 2008 at 1:51 pm EDT
Whitney, I too was a delegate at the TX convention, and I too am exhausted today. It was chaotic at times. It was frustrating at times. I kept having to remind myself (a 1st-time convention attendee---1st time participant in any type of politics besides going to the poll on election day)that there were thousands of 1st-timers and this was the biggest TX state convention ever. There were a lot of 1st's going on, and there was no opportunity to practice and iron out the kinks. I actually believe that things ended up going well considering the challenges we all faced.
I left last night at 10:30 (I'm quite a bit older than you, and had simply run out of steam). The Nominations Committee for At-Large Delegates was still meeting and they told us it would be another couple of hours---I couldn't make it that long. I don't know who they ended up electing (I've searched the web to the best of my limited web-searching talents and can't find any way to learn whether or not I was one of the lucky at-large delegates. I'm female and Caucasian, so I know the odds are very looooooong----but I'd still like to know for sure...)
My advice to you: DON'T GIVE UP! Don't stop working with the Obama campaign.
Now our choice is: McCain or Obama. Therefore NOW is when it really is CRITICAL that we ALL KEEP WORKING!
Who is going to make the CHANGES that our country needs to get our economy turned around and stimulate job growth---SO YOU CAN FIND A JOB? It sure ain't McSame! We HAVE TO GET OBAMA ELECTED!
The experience you are getting is invaluable. By putting yourself out there you are meeting people you would never be exposed to otherwise. Your 'network' is getting bigger and bigger. You never know when one of the links in this network is going to be the link to the job you need.
You have time right now. Time is not paying your bills, but it is something you can use to make sure that we get THE President we who will make the CHANGES in our country that will make big positive differences in your situation.
DON'T STOP WORKING FOR OBAMA FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:24 pm EDT
"I am also pissed off that I am expected to work for free this summer in this Obama program"
Whitney,
All of your hard work for Senator Obama is greatly appreciated as is the hard work of many more like you. But, you were never "expected" to work "for free" for Senator Obama and the interest of our nation--that is a choice that you have made and a choice that you can change. Like the many volunteers that came before and with you, you have freedom of choice--that's why it is called volunteering. Those who have and continue to work for many different causes will often be disappointed if they are working for a payoff, whether it be a position as a delegate or even just to see an agenda fulfilled. May I suggest that you look for a position, whether volunteering or on staff, that you find fulfilling in itself rather than a position that will leave you filling "pissed off" if the objective payoff is not what you anticipated.
So many participated in the delegate selection process, and many went home without credentials to Denver, but that neither negates their value nor the value of their participation in the future. Even Senator Clinton, after 17 months of campaigning, is not going to Denver with the credential for which she worked so hard.
I hope that after getting some sleep, you will look at your participation positively,and that one part of your retrospection will include the value of your experience as a learning process. We need people to engage in the process and learn to navigate and to master its intricacies. That is one way to facilitate change and to catalyze the Democratic Party agenda. Just think, two years from now, you can take a newby to the convention and help guide them through the process!
Most important, Whitney, take care of yourself physically, mentally, and financially. If you need to take a break from volunteering full-time, then do it and come back when you can and how you can. There are so many ways to engage the process and all of them are greatly appreciated. Every volunteer is needed and appreciated, but there are many ways to participate in the political process. May I suggest that you find a way that brings you joy, and allows you to support yourself financially.
Good luck to you, and know that
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Jun 8th 2008 at 11:32 pm EDT
I think you should call HQ and see if they have a paying position open. Never know it doesn't hurt to ask. Thank you for all your hard work it is appreciated.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 3:00 pm EDT
Hi Whitney,
I,too am a single mom with 2 young adults in college. My daughter, much like yourself took a leave of absence from her senior year to dedicate her time to help in this campaign. She was starting to get a bit dscouraged until she ran into a fellow classmate at the Oregon HQ's who had been accepted into law school and delayed her acceptance to work on the Obama team.
We've all gone through the same canvassing experiences, but I want to encourage you to stick with your commitment to the campaign.
Just a few thoughts that might help:
(1) If you have worked within 5 quarters, you are eligible for unemployment benefits. I would apply for them asap through EDD in your city.
(2)I would gather recommendations from other campaign leaders that you worked with and get your information to Senator Obama's campaign manager in Chicago (David Plouffe) and apply for a paid position with the campaign. (you've earned the opportunity)
(3) If you log onto www.collegedems.com the website was taking applications for delegates to the convention sponsored by the college democratic association. Check to see if there are more slots available.
(4) Also, try www.mydreamjob.com and search jobs that are available right now in your area.
I am so proud of you and your tenacity. I applaud your strength, vision and all the work you have done. Without you and all the other magnificent 'foot soldiers'... We would not be standing on the threshold of change as we are today. Good luck to you and God Bless. KEEP THE FAITH!
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Jun 8th 2008 at 5:57 pm EDT
Barack,
I and other Hillary Clinton supporters are flocking to you, as we should. You are my Democratic candidate. Please be mindful of some concerns that I (and many others) have re: your successful candidacy and presidential term.
1) Experience. You know McCain will attack you there. You're going to need a running mate who brings unequivocal experience to the campaign and the White House.
2) Method for change. Your campaign so far has been about "changing the game" in Washington. You have to convince the American people that you have what it takes to change the game, because there are a lot of people interested in protecting the status quo. How are you going to appease them? How will you force them to accept new terms? How will bring in another 800 lb gorilla willing to play the new rules?
We want to believe. We want a change. We can't see there from here. Please don't let us down.
--Toby Sarver
Raleigh, NC
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William from Stamford, CT
Jun 8th 2008 at 5:50 am EDT
Barack Obama Shouldn't Go To Baghdad:
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Ending Her Bid, Clinton Backs Obama:
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Jun 8th 2008 at 10:34 am EDT
McSAME has to send dozens of staffers to these states because he has no one willing to volunteer.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 8:06 am EDT
I believed in Obama from the beginning because of his obvious approach to politics, which were transparency and change. Obama has vowed to be everyone's president and that alone is an new approach to politics. He also vowed to challenge and write new policies will be useful for governing a country. Does he has a difficult job of course however, he has employed the public (taxpayers) to help with this process otherwise nothing will happen. This time the country will be governed by the people for the people. That is a ratical change that makes you sleep well at night, believe in a high quality for your children future, and increase the standards living for people who are working hard. For a change your efforts can pay off in a way it should have for many years before this remarkable time called"Obama," and we must do all that we can to enhance this process for the future of our children.
Hillary speech was very dynamic and compelling, however, her actions does not match her speech. She suspended her campaign, meaning if anything happens she can get back in. Suspecious behavior with all the implications of hoping or knowing something will happen. Remember Hillary lost the race for the democratic nominee, she did not concede. There is a difference you can concede before the race is over not after it is over. She lost and now she is waiting for the unthinkable to happen so she can restore her place as the democratic nominee. Hillary has not made any public announcement to indicate she wants the v.presidency because that would ruin her chances of securing the presidency if something happens to Obama. Hillary believe in hope, the hope she makes for herself. Be careful...
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Jun 8th 2008 at 8:23 am EDT
Class, from day one until the job is done, and from head to toe.
This campaign, this candidate, and this group of volunteers is just dripping with class.
Piece of Evidence #237: The link on the homepage here asking Barack supporters to send a word of thanks to Ms. Clinton.
Barack is going to win this thing not because of any one specific thing, not one silver bullet that the pundits can then dissect, label, package and market to future candidates. He is going to win because of the entire enchilada, not because of any one factor.
Read today's lame "What Went Wrong" feature in the NYT. They asked an assortment of folks what went wrong with the Clinton campaign, and the result is a mix of rationalization and the political corollary to the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle (the process of analyzing something impacts that which you are analyzing). Everyone is looking for that Sherlock Holmesian "a-ha!" moment, when the fact of the matter is quite simply, she was good, he was better.
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Penn: It was the message (that I wrote), it was the money (that they over-payed me)?
Lost Friends: Let's slice and dice the American people into convenient demographic packages, even if it doesn't make sense. (They call all of us, instead of Barack this time, "elitists." I'll take that as a compliment.)
Christine Todd Whitman: It was sexism, plain and simple. (Please remember that Hillary was the first to say that she reminded some voters of their first wife, and yet when someone else says that they are sexist. Meanwhile, it's not sexist to vote for her simply because she's a woman.)
Michelle Cottle: No one really wanted to vote for her but they needed a good excuse, and eventually everyone found one. (Couldn't that explanation explain nearly everything in life? "It was going to happen that way, as soon as it did." Rather tautological, isn't it?)
And they go on...
Why the rush to proclaim some magical formula to the political process? How about, quite simply: She was good, he was better?
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Jun 8th 2008 at 10:49 am EDT
It is my opinion that Hillary "suspended" her campaign because she still needs to raise money. I think once she completely ends it, that cuts her time short on fundraising. She has a lot of debt. She wants time to collect money.
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Marcia--One who believes in Dreams!
Jun 8th 2008 at 11:08 am EDT
Marie, you are absolutely correct. She cannot recoup any monies to repay her debt if she concedes; however, she can up until the convention by "suspending" her campaign. I feel she did a wonderful job yesterday with her speech. Welcome to any HRC supporters. Our fight as Democrats has just begun. United we stand...Yes We Can...Yes We Must!!
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Brandi
Jun 8th 2008 at 12:41 pm EDT
I think many of us are suspicious because this has been played as though she was a viable candidate up until last Tuesday, when the truth is, once Barack recieved the majority of delegates, it would have meant that those would have had to be overturned in order for her to win.
I am one of those who realizes the passion of her supporters, but believe the divide was created by Hillary and her leadership in trying to bring Barack down. I am so tired of this being considered a fluke, and the legitmacy of Barack for Presdient being undermined by the divisive things that the HRC campaign brought into this. I am tired of everyone talking about how her supporters need time to grieve. While I think that's true, I need time too. I have seen so much hate and disregard from that camp, its hard to heal.
Honestly, when she was speaking yesterday, as I said I was moved to tears, I think primarily out of relief, that finally she was going to stop trying to bring him down in order to win.
I hope for unity as well, but I think its a bit much for the media or anyone to suggest that some of us who are hurt and utterly sad at how we've been treated need to hop on board isn't Hillary great train. It will take more than one speech for me to heal too. I want to, I am aiming for it, but when I hear the vile of the supporters, I blame her.
I am so tired of everyone making this win seem like some crazy fluke that if only it was managed better Hillary would have won. and the lists of reasons that all undermine the legitmacy of his nomination. Women, white collar workers, mismanagement, presumption, the media, etc.
What if people recognize that Barack and his message gave us something to vote for rather than against. What if its that simple?
What I am angry at is she gave the Repulicans mounds of ammunition, which they are using in full force. She knew very well she was doing it. I am sorry, I know everyones all hugs and kisses, but I've never been a win at all costs supporter, which includes accepting being treated like that for any reason. Her angry supporters reflect her message.
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Eloise
Jun 8th 2008 at 1:14 pm EDT
I really hope that the 18 million people that voted for Hillary will give her $2 each to payoff her debt.
Hillary's supporters will come through for her. Maybe the consults will forgive her debt and write it off.
Let us all pray that everything works out well for her.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 2:00 pm EDT
As long as her campaign is suspended, she can raise funds to retire her debt.
Don't be fooled. Hillary Clinton does not have any 'tricks' or intent to derail Obama's campaign.
She said she endorses him---she means it. She says she will work her tail off to get a Democrat in the White House---and she will. She MEANS that she will work to get Barack Obama elected President of the United States.
Take it to the bank.
It's really simple: we are ALL DEMOCRATS working to get our candidate elected in November.
Welcome Hillary Clinton supporters. Welcome John Edwards supporters. Welcome Ron Paul supporters. Welcome all Independents and Republicans and Democrats who want to work TOGETHER to defeat John McCain in November!
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Jennifer in TX☺One Voice Can Make a Difference☺
Jun 8th 2008 at 3:23 am EDT
congrats Ms Ray :)
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Lace; Yes We Did
Jun 8th 2008 at 3:26 am EDT
*me too!* :P
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Lace; Yes We Did
Jun 8th 2008 at 3:33 am EDT
If anyone else is still online, I have a question:
When I go into preview mode as I'm in the process of writing a blog post in my Obama blog, why does a rating box pop up?? (see here for a screenshot:
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Does this happen to anyone else?
It's not a big deal or anything, but I was just wondering why it showed up for me considering that In preview mode in my own blog (and thus couldn't rate it) and I'd never seen one on anyone else's blog before.
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A Soldier's tears... OF JOY!!!!!!!!!!!
Jun 8th 2008 at 3:37 am EDT
mmmmm I have never seen that before..I will pay closer attention in the future and let you know
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Lace; Yes We Did
Jun 8th 2008 at 3:41 am EDT
btw, click on my blog and read the blog post :P
**not this time!**
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A Soldier's tears... OF JOY!!!!!!!!!!!
Jun 8th 2008 at 3:42 am EDT
OK Lace, I will check it out and let you know what I think over on your blog :)
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Lace; Yes We Did
Jun 8th 2008 at 3:42 am EDT
Thanks ;)
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Jun 8th 2008 at 3:43 am EDT
Yes, it shows up if I write something in the lower box the "Extended Post Text". If I leave the lower box empty, the rating box does not show up.
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Lace; Yes We Did
Jun 8th 2008 at 3:45 am EDT
Ah, so that's what it is. I had a few users try out what I was doing (I told/asked them to add extended post text), and they said that the rating box didn't show up regardless....
Thanks for clarifying! I've always used extended post text and somehow never noticed that in the 8 months that I've been writing blogs!
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Jun 8th 2008 at 3:47 am EDT
I will appreciate any donation, $5, $10 or $522.00
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A shameless hopemonger... and an unabashed truthmonger
Jun 8th 2008 at 9:44 am EDT
Must be a new feature, like the disclaimer at the bottom. Continuous improvement here at myBO :)!
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Jun 8th 2008 at 12:01 pm EDT
Lace, I am posting to check this out!
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Jun 8th 2008 at 12:08 pm EDT
The blog worked for me; no problem with a rating prompt.
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LT in CA
Jun 8th 2008 at 3:38 am EDT
Congrats Ms Ray on being first.
I can't wait until we can call him "President-Elect Obama" That would be sweet.
Yes we can!
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:50 am EDT
Hi ya...yes, another diehard here! 1:39 a.m. pst here in beautiful Coos Bay Oregon. One regret...I didn't get to see our new President Obama when he visited here. I kid you not...I could not afford the gas!!! Makes me ill. Once in a lifetime opportunity to see the real thing and I can't get there! Thanks a lot Bush and Exxon and the lot of em'.
When I think of our dear leader Obama I actually tear up! I am 50 years old for goodness sake! I cry like a baby for the hope and happiness the future can bring with Obama.
A big hug to all.
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Marcia--One who believes in Dreams!
Jun 8th 2008 at 5:48 am EDT
Good morning or night to some...haven't been writing too much on the blogs lately, but have been reading them. Lots of work to do now for the GE and reaching out to Hillary's supporters. Much healing needed and little time to do it in. Any suggestions? We need unity within the party. Hillary's speech was well done and now we need to do our part.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 7:03 am EDT
Good luck, Jeanne from Coos Bay, OR! This is the first time I have ever posted, or participated in a blog, so I hope you get this message.
I feel bad that you couldn't afford the gas to see Obama. Hopefully he will be our next president, and you will be in much better financial shape within a year to 18 months.
My husband just lost his job yesterday, so that makes me empathize with you even more.
One way to help his campaign without spending any $. is to volunteer from your home. Get in touch with the Obama campaign to find out how. If you have any problems doing so, I can contact my local Obama headquarters and see if I can help you get in touch.
Good luck, Jeanne!!! Si, se puede, with our next president, Barack Obama!!!
Best wishes,
Shelley
I am a 58 year old woman without a job- but with a vision of the future where all Americans can work together so that everyone has a piece of the American dream and so that we all care about each other's dreams
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Jun 8th 2008 at 8:44 am EDT
i'm so sorry for that, dear.
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MJ
Jun 8th 2008 at 9:54 am EDT
So sorry to hear about your husband.
Welcome to posting.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 9:49 am EDT
Are we going to have one? I don't want to be presumptuous, because I am new. And I don't have much time for blogging. Still, I am not seeing any mention of a relief effort, and I think it would be a good idea. Especially if we want to carry Indiana in November.
Al Gore new looked more presidential than in that old T-shirt all smudged from loading and unloading boxes of supplies on those two planes he brought to New Orleans after those levies burst.
I thnk it's kind of like it says in the book written by James, in the New Testament:
"If a brother or sister be in need...and ye say unto them, Depart in peace...& ye give them not those things which are needful for the body...what doth it profit?"
or Bertolt Brecht, in Three-Penny Opera:
"First feed the belly - then talk religion!"
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Brandi
Jun 8th 2008 at 10:53 am EDT
I was thinking about this last night. There have been community efforts across the country supporting various causes, clean-up efforts etc. Beyond a donating page, I think it would be great if the campaign put out a call for volunteers to see what we can do to go and help.
I am stunned by all of the weather tragedy this spring.
I am willing to help organize if anyone is interested.
Brandi
Minneapolis
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:53 pm EDT
Brand New Obama Song!!!!!!
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Obama In 2008!!!!!!!
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Talkeasy-V.O.B.
Jun 8th 2008 at 3:21 am EDT
One day I'll get her first. lol
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Scott from Australia
Jun 8th 2008 at 3:38 am EDT
Only problem for us now though is potentially 18M of Hillary's supporters joining us in the quest for first. I've given up :-)
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LT in CA
Jun 8th 2008 at 3:42 am EDT
I sure hope so. I doubt they'll be as energetic as we are -- they're feeling pretty crummy right now.
But I believe Obama will be able to find the commonality between us and bring us together.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 3:47 am EDT
LOL
Some people have written that they think first is "stupid," but I love it.
As I wrote in the past, I've been first many times, but I don't usually post comments at all, so I just have to wait around for you extroverts to get here and type something for me to read ;)
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Scott from Australia
Jun 8th 2008 at 4:01 am EDT
Life is supposed to be fun and as long as that fun doesn't hurt anyone I think it's aok.
Some of us obviously have more competitive juices flowing than others. However I think there should be a limit to one first a week ;-)
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Jara from CA
Jun 8th 2008 at 4:46 am EDT
When you're first but feeling shy, just remember that a simple "1" isn't really a post. :) The extroverts will have fun being 2, 3, 4, 5...Celebrate your quick fingers (or fast Internet connection)!
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cocobutta Hussein
Jun 8th 2008 at 3:23 am EDT
never got this close to the top. But its 3:30 I'm about to go to bed. nighty night.
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Lace; Yes We Did
Jun 8th 2008 at 3:27 am EDT
G'night!
Yeah, Chris was a little bit late tonight haha...
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Jun 8th 2008 at 3:26 am EDT
I wish I could be first just once :-(
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Jun 8th 2008 at 3:33 am EDT
You'll be 1st soon enough :)
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Jun 8th 2008 at 3:27 am EDT
So - did anyone else feel like a monstrous load was removed from their shoulders when she endorsed Obama?? I had to hear it from her mouth to believe it!!!
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dkbella
Jun 8th 2008 at 3:30 am EDT
Yes! Did you have a chance to read any of the earlier blogs? There were some really sweet Hillary supporters on, and of course the Obama folks were so supportive.
I love it!
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Dani, who voted for Barrack on October 25th!!
Jun 8th 2008 at 3:33 am EDT
No, I didn't. I personally welcome them with open arms. We all know how we would feel were the shoe on the other foot.
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Scott from Australia
Jun 8th 2008 at 3:47 am EDT
I did - it was brilliant - an Oprah moment that lasted for hours as I read them all...then again this whole campaign and blog has been a permanent Oprah moment for many of us emotional, passionate types...don't ya'll think?
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Jun 8th 2008 at 3:37 am EDT
I must admit that it made it easier to indulge in the moment of this great historical accomplishment!
I'm glad that she endorsed Obama and it did sound nice when she said:
"YES WE CAN"
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LT in CA
Jun 8th 2008 at 3:45 am EDT
Not just our accomplishment but hers too. This was a very democratic Democratic Primary. And we had two great candidates. I feel lucky to have witnessed and experienced this remarkable primary.
I wasn't around in the sixties, but this sure feels like the beginning of another revolution.
Change is coming. Even the DNC has vowed to stop taking donations from PACs and lobbyists.
Yes we can!
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Jun 8th 2008 at 1:57 pm EDT
Just a note about the DNC: Obama has taken charge of the DNC's direction as the presumptous nominee and he is was the catalyst behind the DNC refusing donations from lobbyists and PACs. The Republican Party has many staffers who are lobbyists as does John McCains campaign so they have not refused donations from Lobbyists and PACs. Lou Dobbs of CNN has congratulated Obama and the DNC re: this change in DNC policy.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 2:01 pm EDT
Opps! I meant "presumptive" nominee in speaking of Barack, not presumptous. I wanted to add that Obama's phrase about not playing the same old political game but changing the way the game is played is very appropriate with the new DNC policy. Our Country Is Depending On Us! YES WE CAN and WE WILL!!
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Jun 8th 2008 at 3:47 am EDT
Good Morning ObamaNation;
I could not sleep, so I decided to get up and come join the Obama Party. As I watched the speech by Hillary it reminded me of why I belong to the party in which I do. And it reminded me why I have been a community organizer since 1983. I think we had two great canidates, and my choice was aways Senator Obama. But I do want the Hillary supporters to know that my vote for Obama was not a personal vote against Hillary. My vote had to do with the fact that I know what power Barack could bring to bringing the American People into the possibility. With Obama being a community organizer he brings a different type of experience to the country. He brings the community together as a Country with new hopes, and dreams. And he brings an excitement that lights up the sky like fireworks on the 4th of July. We are truly blessed, and we all must work for the good of the Country we love.
My friend ask me today if I had to describe Barack to somebody in three words, how will I describe him? I said to my friend: Barack is integrity, compassion, and abundance.
Integrity- because he speaks the truth to the Country.
Compassion- because he can see and smell the need for a better Country.
Abundance- He believes that we all have a right to life, liberty, and prosperity.
If you ask me who Barack is, that is what I will say. Now each of you need to find three words that describe Barack.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 3:50 am EDT
Genuine
Universal
Blessed
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Jun 8th 2008 at 6:01 am EDT
Honest
Wise
Aloha
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Suzanne, Feeling SAFER with OBAMA on the Planet
Jun 8th 2008 at 9:25 am EDT
Authentic
Diplomatic
Brilliant
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Jun 8th 2008 at 9:27 am EDT
America's
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Jun 8th 2008 at 9:48 am EDT
Courageous
Inspiring
Humble
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Jun 8th 2008 at 10:00 am EDT
Oooooo, I really like the words you've chosen. Isn't it nice to have a politician you can believe in and not describe as greedy, typical etcc....?
Here's mine:
Honor---know's what is right
Courage---willing to stand up for what's right
Committment---will fight for what is right
These are the core values of the US Navy (or at least they were when I was in 10 years ago)
I'm so full of hope I can hardly STAND it!!!!
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Robby from Louisiana who loves the Middle Name Hussein and Believe in Barack Obama
Jun 8th 2008 at 10:58 am EDT
ObamaNation:
Thanks to all of you for participating in the excercise I posted earlier. The 3 word descriptions that each of you used are very strong and beautiful. Sometimes we as supporters get asked a simple question: Why do we support Obama? And some of us attempt to give long answers to a question that should not need thought. The 3 word excersise can help each of you be original in your own description and belief as to why Obama is the best canidate, and what you like about him. So when people ask me: Who is Barack Obama? I say without hesitation. Barack Obama to me is: Integrity, Compassion, and Abundance, and that is who Barack is to me.
Continue to ask your family and friends to find 3 words to describe Obama, and tell them to use those three words to continually describe Barack Obama to others.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 12:20 pm EDT
Servant leader
Diplomatic
Inspiration
Transcultural
Transformational
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Jun 8th 2008 at 2:04 pm EDT
Character, Compassion, Community.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 3:28 am EDT
What's up Obama Nation???
It's 3:27 am and I'm Fired Up and Ready to Go!
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Jun 8th 2008 at 3:29 am EDT
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Get Ready Obama Nation,
We will be seeing the Plouffe Push starting Mid-June! We are going to need to raise a HUGH amount of MONEY. We need to start getting somewhere between $50-$75 million per month just for the advertising push.
The primary is over - now it is time to get serious. We can raise somewhere between $500 million to $1 Billion if we each give somewhere around $300 - $500 as soon as possible.
All the maxed out donors $2,300 we can give another $2,300 for the General.
I am hopeful now that we have truly started the UNITY Process that Plouffe will set a HUGH GOAL for US to ALL Reach by July 4th, 2008 [Our Independence Day].
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Dani, who voted for Barrack on October 25th!!
Jun 8th 2008 at 3:29 am EDT
I put $300 into his primary campaign. I think I can wrangle up double that for the general. Folks - start saving now!!
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Jun 8th 2008 at 3:30 am EDT
Hello Chris,
What's going onwith the blog??
I've been trying to get on for hours.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 3:36 am EDT
Another user O-mailed me yesterday and said that, since approximately the time that the comments counter has been off, she has been unable to view the latest blogs for at least an hour after they're posted.
She's a regular blogger and knows to use the blog tab rather than homepage.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 3:31 am EDT
I'm still shivering over McCain's creepy grin in his speech Tuesday night. What was up with that??
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Jun 8th 2008 at 3:37 am EDT
Me too. The comments on Huff Post are hilarious:
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Jun 8th 2008 at 3:37 am EDT
What was wrong with it was someone told him how to enunciate "That's not change you can believe you can believe him" as if he were Herman Munster scolding Grandpa. I half-expected him to start har-de-har-harring and slapping his thick flannel-pants thighs any moment.
That speech will go down as one of the greatest disasters of 2008. But what a beautiful disaster it was. I am so sick of those Entitled-and-Arrogant Thugs thinking their way is THE way. Oy vey.
Barack Obama: You are ready for your close-up.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 3:39 am EDT
ROTFLMAO!!! I know! It was painful. Like he'd never smiled before in his life. Have you ever seen the movie "The Adams Family--Family Values" when Wednesday (Christina Ricci) smiles that huge fake smile and the girl says "she's scaring me!"?
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Jun 8th 2008 at 3:42 am EDT
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Benjamin Vos, Nashville
Jun 8th 2008 at 3:43 am EDT
I said it before - his smile is as fake as his commitment to help working Americans.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 3:49 am EDT
And I'm sure Cindy (Clairol Formula #37A) is with him for the intellectual stimulation tax package.
Feh.
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Benjamin Vos, Nashville
Jun 8th 2008 at 4:12 am EDT
I think Cindy is very sweet. The adoption of a child from Bangladesh was a nice touch, although I think she has a thing for helping the sickies. At least she's turned her wealth into something positive - creating jobs, flying her husband around the country on her jet, etc.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:17 am EDT
I hope for her sake is sweet. I am not pulling a nasty Rove Slam against her and what she and Mc do in their private life with their private money. Something about her-- her tight-lipped, pasted-on smile-- throws me right off in the same vein as her husband.
I can't imagine Cindy and John fist-bumping. ;>
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:18 am EDT
Can we edit these posts? Er. I gather not. (Ah. So that's what the PREVIEW button is for...) :}
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Margaret Hussein Obama from NYC
Jun 8th 2008 at 4:05 am EDT
Hello Diehards,
If I can join you a little, I'll say there was something definitely wrong with McCain's speech, which I label 'unnecessary intervention'.
First, the timing: it was like someone who realized that he was completely out of the spotlight and wanted to joined by all means.
Second, the content: he offered Change! I laughed so loudly. What kind of change? We already had the Change We've Been Waiting For! He said something to the effect of "there is good change, there is wrong change". Then I thought: "That's a good one. Let's see, which one does he think he is?" To confuse himself more, he added: "There is change going forward, there is change going backward." At that point, I know that he was delusional. To prove me right, he interjected the idea that on different issues, he was against Bush while BO sided with Bush and completely his plea by stating among the 3 (Clinton still in the race then), he was the agent of change. I knew then that he had lost it completely.
The delivery: that green wallpaper behind him was troublesome. And those deep voices cheering him to make more funny statements added to the macabre of the moment.
No. I will leave his grin alone. I just thought that this man is making a mockery of himself. I hope that he did not notice how quickly the cameras turned off from him, without an ounce of excuse, as soon as BO clinched the nomination.
On another note, on McCain website, he labeled himself "A Leader who can believe in". What a joke! No creativity. He had to mirror BO's words with no shame.
However, make no mistakes. He and his republican backers will do whatever it takes to push him through the doors of the WH. There are many ads coming out to paint BO in the most damaging light. One of them using HRC's own negative attack from the campaign trail. We have to be vigilant and convince everyone we can to vote democrat this November. There is no time for complacency.
With this, I thank you for listening to me.
Obama 2008 & 2012
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Jara from CA
Jun 8th 2008 at 4:49 am EDT
I'm with you on the McCreepy Grin. I couldn't tell if he was nervous, sly, evil, or just pooped his pants.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 3:36 pm EDT
I'm guessing he was pushing his dentures back in place. My bad...
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Casey from Chapel Hill, NC
Jun 8th 2008 at 3:32 am EDT
Hillay did something extraordinary today. She put the interests and convictions of the people of America before her own pride and significance today. What she did took courage, strength of character, and an understanding of the big picture that is enviable. She endorsed Obama's campaign, but that means not only should her followers realize the imact that she has, but should also realize the implicatations of ever action that they take.
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dkbella
Jun 8th 2008 at 3:41 am EDT
I agree, and it so irked me that as soon as it was over the CNN commentator immediately stated that it seemed to him that she was "auditioning" for VP. He asked everyone he interviewed if they thought so too. I didn't get that impression at all. Spin, spin, spin.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 3:36 am EDT
I still love that they create these super late night threads
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A Soldier's tears... OF JOY!!!!!!!!!!!
Jun 8th 2008 at 3:41 am EDT
I wonder if it is a "West Coast" moderator that starts the new posts?
If it is an East coaster, then THEY are the one's that are diehard LOL
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Jun 8th 2008 at 3:47 am EDT
Chris is in Chicago...midwest ;)
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Jun 8th 2008 at 3:34 am EDT
I still despise Lanny Davis. Does that make me bad?
Ditto Terry McGoofus. I guess I'll heal in time.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 3:37 am EDT
Just as long as they don't start talking for Obama on the Cable Shows - I will be fine.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 3:42 am EDT
AH! Dear God, no.
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A Soldier's tears... OF JOY!!!!!!!!!!!
Jun 8th 2008 at 3:35 am EDT
Please check out my new "Newsletter" I put together on my "regular site"....
Let me know what you think and log on there and post if you would like :)
Here is the link:
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Thank you Jennifer, Lace, Iowa Prec. Capt, and all the other people who's blog posts I put in my newsletter! You ALL ROCK! LOVE YOU :)
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Lace; Yes We Did
Jun 8th 2008 at 3:39 am EDT
*yaay, I made it!*
As Barack would say, I love you back!
Justice for the victims of 9/11
Security for the American People
Yes We Can!
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jordan from manchester CT
Jun 8th 2008 at 3:39 am EDT
i had a question when does the primary officially end when everybody talks about the 2300 for primary and 2300 for general when can he stop collecting money for the primary? when do he start using the general money? does anyone know the details?
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dkbella
Jun 8th 2008 at 3:44 am EDT
I thought it didn't matter "when" you give. You can give up to the 4600 now, and 2300 will be allocated to the primary and 2300 to the general. Any funds left over at the end of the primary can be rolled over into the general. Am I correct anyone?
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Benjamin Vos, Nashville
Jun 8th 2008 at 4:14 am EDT
no, not exactly.
I really encourage you to contact HQ for the details.
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Benjamin Vos, Nashville
Jun 8th 2008 at 3:44 am EDT
he can start taking money for the general at any time, but it is earmarked for use in the general only.
money for the primary can be used until the convention, even though the primary is basically over now.
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Laura Hubka ~From Iowa Where It Started and Will Continue~~~
Jun 8th 2008 at 3:48 am EDT
My suggestion is to start giving to the DNC.
You can give 2300 for Primary
2300 for General
BUT you can give up to 23,000 annually to the DNC.
AND they are going to need it. McCain raised 21 mil last month and 23 mil from the RNC. I know we can do better than that!
Also give some money to Moveon.org. I know they are a PAC, but Barack does not take money from them and they have a really good commercial out right now about McCain.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 3:54 am EDT
Very good points, Laura. On this note, I'd be honored if anyone cared to check out my blog post about precisely this very topic.
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I jumped into the DNC contributions page as soon as Barack announced the new policy.
My own policy will be to donate to both Barack and the DNC, because I really want to see not only Barack win, but all the down-ticket contenders as well. (How I would love for CA-4 to go to Charlie Brown over ultra-conservative Tom McClintock!)
Check it out people:
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Brett (Sacramento)
Jun 8th 2008 at 3:57 am EDT
I'll be workin' for Charlie Brown!
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Barack916
Jun 8th 2008 at 4:00 am EDT
You're a good man.
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Dharmika
Jun 8th 2008 at 4:55 am EDT
Funny.
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MaryanneAZ
Jun 8th 2008 at 3:50 pm EDT
I too gave to the DNC on Wednesday, but I was concerned that they would not understand that it was because of Barack that I gave. Is there a way we can distinguish ourselves as diehard Obama contributors to the DNC? Perhaps adding .08 to our contribution amount: $50.08? I think it is important for the DNC to realize who is contributing and how much we believe in Barack. Yes WE Can!!!
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Jayne in Boca Raton, Fl
Jun 8th 2008 at 3:41 am EDT
OK I give up for the night.
Pretty satisfying night
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Benjamin Vos, Nashville
Jun 8th 2008 at 3:41 am EDT
John McCain's solution on most domestic issues is to create more competition.
1. Healthcare - more competition between drug companies. more competition between insurance companies.
2. Economy - cut taxes and create competition among businesses. survival of the fittest.
3. Education - promote school choice to get schools competing with each other.
Barack Obama supports more cooperation:
1. Healthcare - provide universal access. simplify the process to provide care, and allow government to provide a best-in-class system to provide for the needs of those who are unemployed or without insurance. (By the way, under McCain's plan, if you end up being unemployed, you're also uninsured. Tough luck if you get injured or have a sick family member. Maybe you can just divorce them like McCain did, or get on disability like he did.)
2. Economy - Obama wants to work with businesses to create green tech jobs, improve automotive fuel efficiency standards, train our workforce, and protect American jobs and workers.
3. Education - Obama wants to reward school systems that do well rather than simply punishing those that fail. He wants to reward good teachers to improve retention rates. And he wants to cooperate more between federal gov't standards and actually funding the mandate of No Child Left Behind so that children are not left behind.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 7:47 am EDT
Yeah, that worked out so well for the greedy oil companies. Exxon and BP are just driving down the price of gas!
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Jun 8th 2008 at 3:48 am EDT
I've seen a lot of pro Hillary posts on our blog. I suspect if you really are seeing your account disabled, it is for a different reason.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 3:57 am EDT
Hillary says she doesn't want VP, so are you going to force her too?
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:10 am EDT
Clinton campaign official: 'She is not seeking the vice presidency'
Hillary Rodham Clinton on Thursday disavowed efforts by some supporters who have urged Barack Obama to choose her as his running mate. The push-back came a day after the former first lady said she would end her quest for the Democratic nomination and endorse the Illinois senator.
"She is not seeking the vice presidency, and no one speaks for her but her," communications director Howard Wolfson said. "The choice here is Senator Obama's and his alone."
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KenHussein supporting President Obama
Jun 8th 2008 at 3:48 am EDT
I will not help anyone's cause to try and 'force' Hillary onto the ticket.
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Laura Hubka ~From Iowa Where It Started and Will Continue~~~
Jun 8th 2008 at 3:49 am EDT
every pro Hillary comment I have seen today has been on this blog and not deleted. I am not sure what you are talking about?
I do not generally just email someone I do not know, my computer got a very nasty virus several years ago from that.
We can talk here anytime.
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dkbella
Jun 8th 2008 at 3:58 am EDT
Hey Laura, long time no see.
I'm the one who wrote the poem to you those long weeks ago about your experience in North Carolina. Did you ever see it?
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Jun 8th 2008 at 3:56 am EDT
You are not telling the truth. You are a troll. Go to bed.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:09 am EDT
LOL! Not only a troll, but a bad one at that.
Pathetic actually if you're getting paid to post here--McCain or the Reps should fire you. That was awful and I can't stop laughing.....
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:00 am EDT
We are already talking to Hillcats, I suspect your a Reprat.
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dkbella
Jun 8th 2008 at 4:05 am EDT
I don't believe you either. Posts are never deleted unless it's some type of racist, threatening, or obscene comment.
As I posted earlier:
No matter your personal feelings--it's time to put them aside for the good of us all. You don't have to "love" any of the candidates. You don't have to "love" ALL of their positions, or statements, or mistakes. But if you in your heart love America and want to see her continue to grow and prosper, and if you believe that the democrats have a better plan to make that happen than the republicans (who don't have a very good track record at this point--war, $4.00 gas, forclosures, etc.)then you need to get on board. No matter how you feel, Barack Obama is the presumptive Democratic nominee. Today, HRC said she is supporting him. Obama supporters make not like her, but he also said today, that he welcomes and appreciates her support.
THIS IS THE REALITY OF TODAY-LIKE IT OR NOT.
MAKE YOUR CHOICE.
BE NEGATIVE AND SELFISH AND UNINFORMED.
OR, MOVE FORWARD, IF NOT FOR YOURSELF--MAYBE FOR YOUR CHILDREN, THE TROOPS--MAYBE JUST FOR THE SAKE OF OUR COUNTRY.
This is not a game. It's not a child's momentary distress. This is about life and death. What kind of life do you want? What kind of President do you want? What kind of country do you want?
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SaSa ♥ NorCal vote RUE FURCH in the Fall! ♥
Jun 8th 2008 at 4:07 am EDT
Why are you trying to amass a mailing list of Obama supporters' email addresses? That's odd.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:15 am EDT
Daniel:
We appreciate the presence and participation of you and other Hillary supporters. While I respectfully understand your efforts to promote her inclusion as VP on Obama's ticket, I believe it would be a profound mistake for the following reasons:
1) Hillary really wants to be president and after 8 years in the White House, it is doubtful that she would be able to "take orders" from Obama, which would be necessary for her to fulfill her role as VP.
2) There would be a perception that she was the "power behind the throne" during the Obama campaign and presidency -- a fatal flaw for his legacy.
3) With Hillary comes, also, Bill, and because of constitutional limitations, it would be unprecedented for a former president to be back in a vice presidential (they come as a governing pair) role. Bad news for any president to have a former president in the mix, making statements that may be contrary to the administration's policies.
4) Obama's presidency should not be viewed as a continuation or extension of the Clinton presidency, but as Barack Obama's presidency on its own merits. Hillary as VP would fuel the perception of Clinton's third term.
I know that I would be disappointed if Obama lost. But you have to admit that he won the nomination fair and square based on the rules which were set forth at the start of the campaign. He has also always treated Hillary with respect and has not resorted to personal attacks.
Again, welcome to the Obamanation and we look forward to working with you toward a victory for Barack in November.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 9:03 am EDT
I agree.
She will not be VP.
He will not win with that ticket.
I will not support that ticket.
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Neva
Jun 8th 2008 at 11:20 am EDT
Me too.
If Hillary is VP, I am out of here.
If she gets a cabinet position, that will happen after Obama becomes president, so it will be too late to protest.
But it will be the first sign of the same Old Washington and politics as usual, not the New Washington he has promised.
We'll see. Must read his book, "Audacity of Hope." Because I am hoping he will be true to his promises.
Do you have enough courage, Barack Obama?
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Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus!
Jun 8th 2008 at 12:01 pm EDT
I hear you!!!
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Benjamin Vos, Nashville
Jun 8th 2008 at 4:27 am EDT
Daniel, I know it sounds weird, but because you have not created a public profile I don't trust you as much. The public profile allows us to know who you are, where you stand, and why you're posting.
There are some out here (I'm not one of them) who would report your posts as "objectionable" because they think (simplemindedly) that posting something pro-Hillary means you must be a "Troll".
The public profile is a good way to let people know that you're officially "in" the campaign.
I encourage you to create a public profile today.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 5:09 am EDT
I agree-come join the Obamanation-set up your profile-it will bring you into the "family" folds! Welcome, I have much admiration for Hillary, she ran a tireless campaign, and through it became the "real" Hillary, that was really great to see, the transformation, to her true self. She is amamzing, Barack is more amamzing, you'll see. Welcome, we are all friends here.
Peace, Light, and Love,
Obamasun
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:28 am EDT
Daniel
HRC and Obama policies are almost identical and are sharply different from McCain's.
If HRC is not selected as the VP, there are other ways she can help in an Obama administration, including serving as the Secretary of Health and Human Services or the US Ambassador to United Nations.
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Neva
Jun 8th 2008 at 11:46 am EDT
How about Ambassador to Bosnia.
She has lots of experience there.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:40 am EDT
You should hear almost nothing but positive things about Hillary on this blog today, and I expect from here on out. Positive comments about Hillary are welcome.
You will have more problems being warmly received with negative or aggressive comments towards our candidate, Barack Obama. Talk of "voting against [Obama]" unless you are successful in your "large-scale effort aimed at forcing Obama to have Hillary on the ticket" is misplaced on this blog. You will find it difficult to engage a constructive, supportive dialogue with inflammatory statements like these. Please don't be confused, we are welcoming to Hillary supporters here, but we find posts that are aggressive & threatening to Obama inappropriate here. If you don't want to be disabled again, please try to change your approach. If you're proud of being disabled all these times, then I will not congratulate you.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 5:19 am EDT
Temper Tantrums are not becomming to anyone. You may want to retract your comment and really think about the impact on your Nation if you throw away your vote. We have to think outside of our own personal cacoon where our fears and hopes and insecurities lay. I am sure if you think about it longer, you will come to see that you can assert into the long-term conversation of voting properly for Obama. No knee jerk reactions can replace thoughtful introspection about the crisis our Country is in. Think about all of the problems we face; then decide who really is best for you and your Country.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 7:09 am EDT
The problem has been that your previous comments haven't so much been pro-Clinton as they have been insulting to Barack Obama. People can post whatever they choose to here without the worry of whether moderators allow the message to go through, but this is essentially Obama's house and people that come here slinging insults should expect to have their account deleted. It's just common sense.
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Vero - fired up, ready to go for year 2 of the Obama presidency
Jun 8th 2008 at 11:35 am EDT
Hmmm...funny how it's now 11:35 AM and your post is still here. Hmmmm?
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A CHANGE IS GONNA COME
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Jun 8th 2008 at 3:46 am EDT
It appears to be us against the banking elite.
Quiz
1. Is the Federal Reserve a public or private entity?
2. What law requires American citizens to pay tax on labor and wages?
3. Which politician (still serving) said this: “Stop throwing the Constitution in my face! It’s just a goddamned piece of paper!”
Post guesses/answers below and watch this film to find out if you don’t know. P.S. Ron Paul is interviewed towards the end of this film. I have to say I have more respect for him in trying to restore and protect the U.S. Constitution.
American: Freedom to Fascism by Aaron Russo (R.I.P. lost his battle to cancer Aug. 24, 2007)
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Jun 8th 2008 at 10:09 am EDT
This might sound really strange, but I think Obama or his speechwriter actually helped her with parts of the speech or at least they discussed some of what needed to be said when they met privately Thursday night.
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Laura Hubka ~From Iowa Where It Started and Will Continue~~~
Jun 8th 2008 at 3:51 am EDT
You can not force Hillary on the ticket. I know you want to.
But Bill has refused to be vetted. This will be the reason for her not being VP. Not Hillary herself. But Bill.
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Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus!
Jun 8th 2008 at 9:06 am EDT
I disagree. There are other reason he shall not pick her. There are better ones to choose from.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 11:51 am EDT
Hillary herself.
She is not suitable to be VP to Obama - forget about Bill. He's got luncheons and mining promoters to worry about.
Hillary and Barack are oil and water; old and new.
Most particularly Barack Obama is integrity personified. Hillary Clinton has proven to be dishonesty personified.
The question: Does Barack Obama have the courage to deliver Change in Washington?
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Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus!
Jun 8th 2008 at 12:03 pm EDT
I hear you!
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Patrick
Jun 8th 2008 at 3:52 am EDT
you are silly...I fight for Hillary all the time in here and have no problems being censored.
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Dorothy from White Salmon, WA
Jun 8th 2008 at 2:10 pm EDT
Bill Clinton vetted? I think so. After all, he was president of the United States. I would be more concerned that Michelle Obama wouldn't pass the mustard, what with that thesis of hers. And, if you haven't read it, it is a real good way to get to know the "real" Michelle.
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Debbie for Obama
Jun 8th 2008 at 5:01 pm EDT
Get real!
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Jun 8th 2008 at 3:53 am EDT
The supporters here are the one's that pull you off. Again trying to 'force' hillary'onto the ticket is a waste of time.
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Nov. 5th 2008 "Mission Accomplished," Ben from Monroe, NY HAPPY ELECTION DAY!!!!
Jun 8th 2008 at 4:20 am EDT
Clinton campaign official: 'She is not seeking the vice presidency'
Hillary Rodham Clinton on Thursday disavowed efforts by some supporters who have urged Barack Obama to choose her as his running mate. The push-back came a day after the former first lady said she would end her quest for the Democratic nomination and endorse the Illinois senator.
"She is not seeking the vice presidency, and no one speaks for her but her," communications director Howard Wolfson said. "The choice here is Senator Obama's and his alone."
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Jun 8th 2008 at 12:05 pm EDT
Right!
After she stole the limelight on Barack's wonderful, historical day, by publicly declaring her VP aspirations, her advisors reminded her that the appearance of bullying was no way to land the position.
So she toned it down. Endorsed him, even. Now she says she's not seeking the position. Let's hope and pray she's not lying again, because Barack Obama already has to deal with her ambitions.
And make no bones about it, a position of prominence for Hillary -- suitable for her ambitions -- under his administration flies directly in the face of Change in Washington.
Barack Obama has a huge dilemma on his hands, and the Republicans love it.
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Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus!
Jun 8th 2008 at 9:07 am EDT
I agree. Barack does not owe Hillary anything. Maybe it's the other way around.
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JD from Seal Beach, CA
Jun 8th 2008 at 3:54 am EDT
Please, go vote for McCain. You deserve him.
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Laura Hubka ~From Iowa Where It Started and Will Continue~~~
Jun 8th 2008 at 3:54 am EDT
I will vote democrat.
I will not vote for more war.
I will not vote to over turn Roe vs Wade
I will not make more people poor in this country
I will not let a man who does not know the difference between Sunni and Shiite be our president.
I will not vote against my country.
I will not vote against the 18 million people who voted for Obama
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Murry
Jun 8th 2008 at 3:59 am EDT
Well said!
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Obamasun in MN
Jun 8th 2008 at 5:15 am EDT
Thank You! that was great. Keep posting that one so more people will see it. Nice credo.
Peace Light and Love,
Obamasun
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Jun 8th 2008 at 3:57 am EDT
Daniel, I thought I heard that Hillary said she has not expressed interest in being the VP? Other people from her campaign said she was but she said that no one speaks for her. If she has not expressed strong interest, why would anyone want to force the issue? If you care so much for her, why don't you respect her choice? Choosing the VP is a complicated process with many considerations. Barack will make the final choice but he has a team of people vetting and brainstorming the issue with him that serve as consultants. If they feel that Hillary would be a great choice, they will let him know.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 9:09 am EDT
There are better choices then Hillary out there.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 3:59 am EDT
Are you for real?
I know we have some moderation, but can't really be this draconian. You Hillary supporters can say anything you want here, you know.
I'm wondering if this is a new meme to suggest that Obama website is more moderated, less open than McCain's website? I've heard the meme quite a few times on the McCain website, also. Don't know what the purpose could be. Maybe that we are not so open as McCain's website? Simply false.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:01 am EDT
Daneil,
Stop lieing , u are MaCcain supporter pretending to be Hillary supporter.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:02 am EDT
Dear Daniel,
It has been a long and very emotional campaign. I was on the fence for a long time back and forth for Hillary and Barack. But now is our time to unite as a party no matter who is VP because we need to end the war in Iraq for the benefit of our children and our children's children. We mush educate ourselves about what Barack stands for and stand with Hillary as she endorses him.. John McCain says 100 yrs in Iraq? I certainly don't want this for the future of my son or his children or his children's children.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:05 am EDT
You posted this earlier. That's a TOS violation.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:07 am EDT
Now, if you are voting against the democrats simply because your candidate lost, I am sorry, but that is just silly. We might as well just shoot some more young soldiers while you are at it. Go give millions of dollars to rich people who are just going to stuff it in their bank accounts. What really would be the good in doing that????
PS: You probably get deactivated because this is a forum for Obama supporters. You have made it obvious that you are not one, so you got deactivated. Like a man on a women's forum or a child on a dating forum would.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 11:02 am EDT
I'm wondering if your here trying to start up trouble, because your story just doesnt add up. This site does not block people's accounts for having pro Hillary positions. In fact you posted your own pro Hillary post (the same exact thing) several times in this thread, so I dont buy your story at all.
Unlike other candidates sites, comments are not held in moderation here. You can post whatever you want. Now someone reading might report what you said if its offensive and the admin will delete it. So your story doesn't make sense at all. I really wonder if youre one of the McCain bloggers over here trying to get points on the McCain blog!!
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Jun 9th 2008 at 3:17 am EDT
I'm with you Daniel, however I can see that the Supreme Court would be a preferred place for Hillary to impact our country for years to come. The VP can be what the President makes of it. Clinton gave Al Gore a lot more responsibilities than just going to funerals!! In fact, Al Gore pored through all kinds of records and did away with all kinds of wasteful spending. Now after 8 years of Bush, it will need to be done once again.
Also, since Hillary as First Lady attended many of the foreign funeral events representing our country, maybe Michelle might find the time to do the same.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 3:49 am EDT
The campaign has asked me to forgive and forget. I can't yet fully embrace our new family members, but I will go half-way. I will give it a try, go through the motions... and maybe by doing so, overtime, my heart will soften and we can be one.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 3:55 am EDT
I've always admired Obama for setting a good example. He says that people have more in common than we realize and he's willing to converse with those that disagree with him. I'll try and live up to his standards :-)
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Dorothy from White Salmon, WA
Jun 9th 2008 at 3:40 am EDT
Excuse me? First of all, and you can take this to the bank, I'm not a family member. I'm a Hillary supporter. Right at this moment I am feeling that my vote will either go to McCain or I will stay home. Your attitude is the same arrogant attitude that I have witnessed this entire campaign.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 3:56 am EDT
we all need each other -the entire party needs to come together.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:51 am EDT
Damn straight Ken, Peng do your best mate it's all that we can ask but let Barack be your lead guy, Daniel I know you are trying hard to fight it but the fact that you are over here sharing your struggle with us shows that you are getting closer by the day. Keep up the good work boys!
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Jun 8th 2008 at 8:16 am EDT
I totally agree, each candidate supporters needs each other. I would like to take this time and welcome Hillary's supporters to the family. Everything goes on this blog, your comments are not censor and as soon as you can type it in it is post; so if things seems to be a little heated are nasty that the reason; freedom of speech. Each blogger have the right to report your comment and the moderator will review and determine if it needs to be deleted. Just keep in mind that real family argues but in the end we are still family and got your back :).
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Jun 8th 2008 at 3:56 am EDT
While I agree with you that I would like to see Hilary on the ticket, and I'd surely sign a petition saying so (though I agree it is the wrong way to go about it). However, I would never vote for McCain or anyone besides Obama. A vote like that out of anger and frustration is a vote against HRC and everything she has devoted her life to.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 9:12 am EDT
That would be a bad choice.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:00 am EDT
Did you see the blog today from Texas? 12,000 people in the convention were holding hands and saying "united we stand"
We have the Hillcats support. Quite a bit of it. There are a few hold outs, but that is ok.
Everyone that caucused for Clinton here in my precinct is voting for Obama in Nov. We are going to state convention next weekend and they are standing with me.
I really feel no dissention here on the ground. Only here and there on the blogs.
It will die down with time. Maybe you will not quit, but many will.
It is ok to be mad. I would be mad too if the shoe was on the other foot. But I would not be trying to force Hillary to choose Barack.
It is something that the advisor's will go over and talk to Hillary about. The choice will not be yours, your websites, or anyone else's but those who make the choice. Hillary included.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:05 am EDT
When will you get it through your thick skull that your paranoid rants are boring. Try coming up with an original thought and maybe we would be interested in responding to you seriously. We now just look at your posts as just an uninteresting schoool yard rant. I will not bother to validate your infantile poor-me diatribes with any more responses. We encourage Hillary suppporters to come her and engage in "intellegent" debate. We don't need anymore nonsense from hillbots like you.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:22 am EDT
Dear Daniel, Hillary supporters:
I'm going half-way because I can't fake it and say I love you, after so many months of putting on armor to thicken my skin against attacks thrown at me.
I can only sincerely go half-way at this time.
Would you rather I weakly smile and lie to you? I won't.
I reach out to you not out of desire to use your votes for us to win this fall.
You want to hear that we need you to win? Yes, we do need you to win.
But I do not fear losing, or winning this fall.
Because what's more important is I want to do the right thing for the right reasons.
I wish to meet you half-way, because it's all I can do, all I want to do, and be sincere about it.
Until trust can be reestablished.
Hopefully it won't be long.
Then I can and will fully embrace you, with all my heart, as family.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 3:54 am EDT
and the rest of HQ for always feeding us
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Brett (Sacramento)
Jun 8th 2008 at 3:55 am EDT
Ever wonder why McLame is so worried about his age perception?!
We honor their service but just because you were a POW does not qulaify you to be President or Vice President!
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:57 am EDT
Ummmmm Daniel, maybe you haven't noticed but you just posted a pro-Hillary comment and not only has it shown up but you are at this moment engaged in a friendly debate over your views.
This kinda undercuts your arguement, don'tcha think???
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Jun 8th 2008 at 3:56 am EDT
Well written piece in the New York Times about how Hillary's campaign staffers essential sold her out with all of their internal feuding. The basic point is that they were too busy fighting each other to give her good information and she made all those tactical, strategic, and ethical blunders everyone is so fond of dissing her for.
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Lets just remember this as the race and the presidency goes on.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:04 am EDT
Congratulations to the "no drama" O-Team! I'm so proud!
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:08 am EDT
I'm so glad you brought that up with all the new media chatter claims of sexism. It diminishes all our work as supporters of Obama to participation in bigotry and I do resent the implication. I her campaign was plagued by many staff problems and poor advice from THE MEN she chose to put in charge. It's tough they calculated wrong, but that does not equate sexism. The Obama campaign won by WORKING HARD!
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Jun 8th 2008 at 3:58 am EDT
Just wanted to say before I climb into the sack, goodnight and Godbless to all of you....
Long time Barack supporter, & New supporters (former Hillary backers)...
I LOVE YOU ALL! WE WILL DO THIS IN NOV., YES WE CAN!!!!!!
I LOVE YOU ALL! WE WILL DO THIS IN NOV., YES WE CAN!!!!!!
I LOVE YOU ALL! WE WILL DO THIS IN NOV., YES WE CAN!!!!!!
I LOVE YOU ALL! WE WILL DO THIS IN NOV., YES WE CAN!!!!!!
BTW, Lace....I read your blog and posted there for you! Bless you young lady, and be safe! :)
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:01 am EDT
G'Night!
(and I replied to your comment :)
No worries, nobody said or did a thing!
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:02 am EDT
late niter here! still up checking my election news!
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Jun 8th 2008 at 3:59 am EDT
WTF?!!!!
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SUNNI/SHEA?? IRAQ/IRAN?? CONVENTIONAL/WEAPONS NUCLEAR WEAPONS!!! MIDDLE CLASS TAX CUTS/BUSH TAX CUTS!!! FILLING UP THE MINI-VAN ($80) / SUMMER GAS HOLIDAY ($50)!!! ECONOMICS / MONOPOLY$ !! 6 YEARS / 100 YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SURPLUS/DEFICIT!!! ROME / AMERICA!!!!!
STILL WANNA VOTE FOR HIM?!! HOLY CRAPAROLLY!
IS THERE REALLY A CHOICE?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OBAMA/SEBELIUS 08 & 12 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:12 am EDT
**************WHOOPS! **************************
HERE IS THE LINK!
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:21 am EDT
We must do everything in our power to elect Barack Obama..
tired of our young men and women dying in Iraq
tired of the suicides
this is killing our country in soo many ways
MCCAIN MINDSET IS TO CONTINUE THE WAR FOR 100 YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Barack Obama knew in his heart and tried to express in a speech that this is wrong. all wrong for Iraq and America.
Why didnt more stand up and say NO to the Iraq war????????
WE are given a 2nd chance to get it right. Lets not repeat our mistakes again.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:25 am EDT
That background is sickening
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A Soldier's tears... OF JOY!!!!!!!!!!!
Jun 8th 2008 at 4:02 am EDT
LMAO you McCainite!!!!!!
Don't worry, we love you too :)
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Amanda- Women stand with Barack Obama
Jun 8th 2008 at 4:24 am EDT
Senator Obama will make that decision. So far we have trusted him and his judgement. I dont think him picking his VP will be any different. I trust he will choose whom he could unite but also work side by side with for the next 8 years......yes he will be elected and re-elected!!!!!
Dear Hillcrats-
Stand with the campaign and Barack regardless if he chooses Clinton or not. THINK!
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:03 am EDT
Yeah....uh...ok. Right on Danny.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:04 am EDT
ROTFLMAO!!
Wait...that was a joke, right?
I think he's hungry for a good steak here in Chicago.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:07 am EDT
Although...he did write that DAMNING letter back in Kindergarten.
I wanted to be a space alien back in Kindergarten.
Anyone else have some damning kindergarten aspirations?
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:17 am EDT
ill admit that i spent most of my kindergarten recesses chillin in a monster truck tire with my karate gang. we were either practicing our moves or planning our violent revolution of the school. we wanted more time to finger paint, and the teachers demanded that we do this reading thing...
viva la revolucion!
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:04 am EDT
A SEAN HANNITY WANNA BE! OR MAYBE O'RILED-LY!
WE'LL DO IT LIVE!!!!!! DO IT LIVE!! I TELL YA!
I'LL WRITE IT AND WE'LL DO IT LIVE!!!!!!
MC_LAME IS TOAST!
LOL!
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:07 am EDT
That was funny Brett -the Billy O. eruption- always a classic.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:06 am EDT
Obama is not hungry for power. Just what exactly gave you that impression.
He has been very gracious in every speech. He made the DNC NOT take money from lobbyists and PAC's. If he wanted power, he would have been eagerly seeking their money.
I understand you are sore over the loss. But you have to think about what you are saying a bit here.
Obama is young and yes, he may not have 35 years in Washington. But that is what makes him right for this moment in time. There is no one that has bought into his success, he has done this with the help of people who could only give a few dollars at a time. He just paid off his school loans because he did not take a high paying cooperate job after school. He was in Chicago, on the streets helping the poor get what they needed.
Compare the issues and where he stands and those of Hillary. They are very similar.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:08 am EDT
Dear Hillbot:
When will you get it through your thick skull that your paranoid rants are boring. Try coming up with an original thought and maybe we would be interested in responding to you seriously. We now just look at your posts as just an uninteresting schoool yard rant. I will not bother to validate your infantile poor-me diatribes with any more responses. We encourage Hillary suppporters to come her and engage in "intellegent" debate. We don't need anymore nonsense from hillbots like you.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:12 am EDT
Hear hear. We're all ready to talk about anything, but we're not here to "vent" to, or indulge childish insinuation.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:12 am EDT
psst, GOP ;)
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:16 am EDT
You know me, I'll talk to GOP's!
Until they all learn to play nice, a weenie is a weenie :)
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:12 am EDT
You'll personally force them onto a ticket together? That's awesome. I've always wanted to know someone in the KGB!
Would you like my recipe for borscht?
6 cups water
3/4 tablespoon salt
1/2 cup finely chopped carrots
1/4 cup chopped green bell pepper, divided
1/2 stalk celery, chopped
1 medium beet
1/2 cup canned peeled and diced tomatoes
3 potatoes, quartered
1/3 cup butter
1/2 cup chopped onion
1 1/2 cups canned tomatoes
3 cups finely shredded cabbage, divided
1/4 cup heavy cream
3/4 cup diced potatoes
1 tablespoon dried dill weed
1/4 teaspoon ground black pepper to taste
salt and freshly ground black pepper to taste
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Place water, salt, carrots, 1/2 of the bell pepper, celery, beet, tomatoes, and quartered potatoes in a large stock pot over high heat. Bring to a boil.
Melt 1/3 cup butter in a separate skillet over medium heat. Saute onions in butter until tender, approximately 5 minutes. Stir in tomatoes, reduce heat to medium low, and simmer for 15 minutes. Remove 1/2 cup of sauce from skillet, and set aside. Stir half of the cabbage into the skillet with remaining sauce, and continue simmering 5 minutes more, or until tender.
Remove beet from boiling liquid and discard. Remove potatoes with a slotted spoon or tongs, and place in a bowl with remaining 1 tablespoon of butter and the cream. Mash together until smooth.
Return the 1/2 cup of reserved onion-tomato sauce to the stock pot. Stir in diced potatoes, and simmer until just tender but still firm, approximately 5 minutes. Increase heat to a low boil, and stir in remaining cabbage, tomato sauce, and mashed potatoes. Reduce heat and simmer a few minutes more. Stir in remaining bell pepper, season with black pepper, and serve.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:13 am EDT
That sounds good, SaSa!
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:16 am EDT
To be honest, I hate borscht, lol... and that's why it says "rate this recipe" on it!
Not my own.
Everyone loves borscht but me. I think I'm flawed for life. lol!
Good to see you. I'm going to bed to get up and go to some hippie dance camping thing, oh God... laugh.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:28 am EDT
Rock on, crazy hippie dancer! I'm going to bed too. Good to cross paths...hope you're well.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:15 am EDT
I've always wondered what was in borscht. Thanks for the recipe SaSa! I have to be honest and say it's not my favorite food but good to know how to make it.
Do you have a recipe for margaritas? I can't get the premixed stuff over here in the UK.
Someone graciously posted one here for me a couple weeks ago, but I forgot to copy it before I rebooted my computer.
Yes we can!
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:26 am EDT
Margarita Mix is super easy to make, even from scratch. I don't have a recipe, but I was a bartender, so what you're going to make is a mix on the stove of a few cups each (equal amounts, but you can adjust by taste) of sugar, water, orange juice (strained) and lime juice (strained). Boil a little while on low, then refrigerate up to a week. It should be slightly thick. If it's not thick enough, add more sugar and the juices and try again.
For the margarita, use a good quality shot and a half tequila over ice in a glass with a salted rim (use rock salt, wet the rim and then dip), and top with sweet and sour.
If you want it fancy, add as splash of grand marnier. People do all sorts of things to their margaritas.
Garnish as you like best, either with a lime or an orange wedge, or these stacked with a pineapple wedge on a large skewer looks nice.
Happy trails!
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:38 am EDT
Thanks SaSa! I knew I could count on you. I have copied it and pasted it in a word document so that I don't lose it.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:18 am EDT
LOL, Good one SaSa,
Another Obamablog "habit" the Hillary folks will have to learn about.
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Kathy
Jun 8th 2008 at 7:34 am EDT
Good recipe for borscht. Mine is different. I don't use tomato; up the beets to about 3 - 4 large; use more dill; and squeeze lemon juice (one lemon.) Will try yours, though. I also use good quality chicken stock for the base. Thanks! Kathy
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Jun 8th 2008 at 5:12 am EDT
Senator Obama will not be forced into anything! He has established a three-member panel, including Caroline Kennedy, who will be vetting prospective VP choices. That is the method he has chosen to proceed with. It will not be circumvented.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 5:22 am EDT
I totally agree.. Barack Obama won the Democratic nomination fairly..by any sane persons math! He and he alone can make his choice for VP. He cannot take on anyone as VP who is part of the old Washington. That is what HE said.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 9:15 am EDT
I agree!!
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Jun 8th 2008 at 7:24 am EDT
Same old, same old...
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:05 am EDT
damn.
i've forgotten i subscribe. i dont pay anything and my browser is auto logged in. its too long to post the who thing on here, maybe it'll get reposted somewhere.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:01 am EDT
WHAT HE REALLY MEANS TO SAY!
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YOU KNOW ITS TRUE! HE SAID THE GI BILL UPGRADE WAS TOO GENEROUS FOR OUR TROPPS! HE SAID THEY MIGHT WANT TO GET OUT AFTER SERVING THEIR COUNTRY FOR THREE YEARS IN IRAQ (EVEN IF THEY LOST BOTH LEGS ON DAY ONE)???!!!!
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:17 am EDT
####### WHOOPS! HER'S THE LINK ############
***************** FUNNIER THAN SH....T ********
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:34 am EDT
"Hot water to dehydrated babies" WTF???!!!
What's next? Cold sandwiches to hungry unborn fetuses?
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:49 am EDT
That gives me a great idea for a fundraiser---at voter reg. drives, etc. fill a cooler with bottled water to sell--with all money going to the campaign, but put a sign out with McShame's quote on it and hawk it--calling out "Hot water for babies, step right up."
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:04 am EDT
wow! I can't believe I am still awake! YES WE CAN! Now I am going to bed....lol
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:10 am EDT
Sweet dreams
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Jun 8th 2008 at 7:12 am EDT
Again a problem, she did not win the popular vote under any legitimate counting method. And, even if you include MI in the count with the soviet style me-only ballot the popular vote has never been the metric used to determine the winner since many caucus states don't tally the popular vote and hence wouldn't report.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 11:53 am EDT
I think THAT is why your comments were deleted!!! Stop claiming she won anything!! That will not help us move on. We have to accomodate you guys, but its a two way street.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:07 am EDT
Here's another take on HRC's speech.
I think this author makes some valid points.
Here's the link:
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I love the British press sometimes. They're a lot more clear-eyed sometimes and they have a keen grasp of political machinations.
While I don't agree with everything the Times publishes, they always have a unique perspective that you often don't get in the American Press.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:13 am EDT
Does anybody know where I can get a Barack Obama banner? Similar to the ones that he uses at the rallies. if you do please email me at stricken721@yahoo.com
I am wanting one to help GOTV :)
Also if you want please donate to my fundraiser it hasn't received much attention.
5 dollars would be awesome!
O8AMA!
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:16 am EDT
We must do everything in our power to elect Barack Obama..
tired of our young men and women dying in Iraq
tired of the suicides
this is killing our country in soo many ways
MCCAIN MINDSET IS TO CONTINUE THE WAR FOR 100 YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Barack Obama knew in his heart and tried to express in a speech that this is wrong. all wrong for Iraq and America.
Why didnt more stand up and say NO to the Iraq war????????
WE are given a 2nd chance to get it right. Lets not repeat our mistakes again.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:21 am EDT
Great post, Nanci. Thanks for the link, and you're right--some very valid points there, though I personally still give Clinton more credit on the magnanimity front today.
I thought her speech was powerful and conciliatory--one of her very finest ever.
You also have written some nice blog posts on recent subjects; keep up the excellent writing and contributions.
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Nanci A patriotic dissident
Jun 8th 2008 at 4:29 am EDT
Thanks so much! Glad you enjoyed the article and thanks for the shout out.
I really enjoy politics and find it fascinating to reflect on all the various aspects of the campaign.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:35 am EDT
You bet. Me too--I've been studying poli-sci with a passion this past year and have really enjoyed comparing what I've learned from the textbooks to what I'm seeing as it unfolds.
It's an exciting time, I think, despite the horrendous atrocities of the Bush years.
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Nanci A patriotic dissident
Jun 8th 2008 at 4:42 am EDT
It is a very exciting time. I've been so energized by this campaign. I've never been so interested in the actual process before.
I will rest easier after August though. But, at least the unification process has finally started, so I am grateful for that.
But, to be honest I will be watching Obama's back very closely for rearguard action from all angles.
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Scott from Australia
Jun 8th 2008 at 5:14 am EDT
Good evening Nanci!
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Nanci A patriotic dissident
Jun 8th 2008 at 5:41 am EDT
Hi Scott! Sorry, just saw your post. How are you?
It's a bright Sunday a.m. here in the UK. I'm going to have to leave the blog in about 20 minutes, but great to see you on here!
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TastyTone is apparently a MuslisocicommienaziKenyafacist supporter
Jun 8th 2008 at 4:09 am EDT
:)
He's like "Beetlejuice". Don't say his name three times or he'll show up on your TV!!
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Laura Hubka ~From Iowa Where It Started and Will Continue~~~
Jun 8th 2008 at 4:26 am EDT
Every single one of the people in my precinct has always told me they would support Obama. Many people do like both. I have had many conversations with the supporters of Hillary here in Iowa, and more than not are true democrats and will vote for the person who won the nomination.
there were not 12,000 Obama supporters there to begin with, but there were 12,000 Obama supporters after the convention.
I am sure there were a few like you that want to force the issue, they left.
I can tell you right now, that if the shoe was on the other foot. Barack would have made a very strong statement for us NOT to engage in this kind of activity that you are participating in. Just like when he told us not to show up at the DNC rules and committee meeting. By now Barack would have made a public statement not to carry on this way and on the night of the final primary he would have congratulated her on her win of the nomination. He would not have waited so long.
I understand that you are either upset, or that you are one of the many McCain supporters that we have been getting here pretending to be a Hillary supporter.
I guess that is why we have free speech. It is up to us to tell you what the true story is.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:30 am EDT
Rasmussen says that Obama is presently supported by 80% of all Democrats. That was prior to this morning's speech, by the way.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 7:21 am EDT
So you're saying that Hillary didn't have a single representative in the Texas caucus? Welcome to the wonderful world of delusional. According to the latest poll, Obama already has the support of more than 80% of the Democrats. He won 48.1% of the popular vote and Clinton won 47.9%, does the math in your world somehow transform that remaining 4% into more than 32% without Clinton supporters?
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Jun 8th 2008 at 9:05 am EDT
Daniel -- I heard and saw for myself the vast majority of Clinton supporters cheering and clapping enthusiastically when Mrs. Clinton said that all Dems must work to get Obama elected. My ears and eyes do not deceive.
The idea you are continuing to drive that 17+ million Clinton supporters will not vote Obama unless she is on the ticket as VP is inaccurate. In fact, many of those 17+ milion voters came to Obama's side long before yesterday. Others have come since she suspended her campaign yesterday understanding that this is not about one presidential candidate, but that it is about the people of the Democratic party and what is needed to move this country forward.
I hope with time that you can come to that same conclusion. I, for one, would have voted for Clinton had she won the nomination even though I do not think she was the better candidate because she would have made a very good president and she is heads and tails over any other candidate out there, including Nader! Nader does not have a chance and you saw what happened in 2000, putting Bush in office.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:11 am EDT
Hello Diehards,
If I can join you a little, I'll say there was something definitely wrong with McCain's speech, which I label 'unnecessary intervention'.
First, the timing: it was like someone who realized that he was completely out of the spotlight and wanted to joined by all means.
Second, the content: he offered Change! I laughed so loudly. What kind of change? We already had the Change We've Been Waiting For! He said something to the effect of "there is good change, there is wrong change". Then I thought: "That's a good one. Let's see, which one does he think he is?" To confuse himself more, he added: "There is change going forward, there is change going backward." At that point, I know that he was delusional. To prove me right, he interjected the idea that on different issues, he was against Bush while BO sided with Bush and completely his plea by stating among the 3 (Clinton still in the race then), he was the agent of change. I knew then that he had lost it completely.
The delivery: that green wallpaper behind him was troublesome. And those deep voices cheering him to make more funny statements added to the macabre of the moment.
No. I will leave his grin alone. I just thought that this man is making a mockery of himself. I hope that he did not notice how quickly the cameras turned off from him, without an ounce of excuse, as soon as BO clinched the nomination.
On another note, on McCain website, he labeled himself "A Leader who can believe in". What a joke! No creativity. He had to mirror BO's words with no shame.
However, make no mistakes. He and his republican backers will do whatever it takes to push him through the doors of the WH. There are many ads coming out to paint BO in the most damaging light. One of them using HRC's own negative attack from the campaign trail. We have to be vigilant and convince everyone we can to vote democrat this November. There is no time for complacency.
With this, I thank you for listening to me.
Obama 2008 & 2012
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:14 am EDT
Link
About that speech, this has been making me laugh and laugh all day. Even Fox Noise is just hating on him!
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Laura Hubka ~From Iowa Where It Started and Will Continue~~~
Jun 8th 2008 at 4:18 am EDT
Oh yes!
It was all the talk at work the next day!
I can not wait to see the two of them on stage together.
My idea for their meetings.
Do 5 regional "town hall" meetings NW, SW, NE, SE and throw in a Mid west some where (Iowa? hint,hint) and let the two "debate" each other the first hour and then let the people ask questions for the second hour. Make them stand up the whole time.
OR
same thing, but let one go on at 9 AM and then the other at 1PM. Just to show the difference in audience size.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:25 am EDT
Hullo Laura, you're still up?!! isn't it late for you out there? (just 6:30 pm for me in Sydney though)
Anyway, have you seen this lovely video of Barack at HQ at
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Laura Hubka ~From Iowa Where It Started and Will Continue~~~
Jun 8th 2008 at 4:49 am EDT
Yup still up.
Flash flood and tornado warnings all evening and into this early morning. 349 AM here.
yikes!
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Marie Hussein from New Mexico
Jun 8th 2008 at 4:12 am EDT
I usually stay up most of the night reading the blogs here. I'm tired tonight, so I'm off to bed.
I found this on Daily Kos. It is a small piece of good news that we need to remember as we GOTV.
Link
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Kristian "I Ain't Afraid of No GOPs" Idol
Jun 8th 2008 at 7:03 am EDT
Great anecdote in that article. White, blue-collar guy in Appalachia won't vote for McCain, wants Obama.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:24 am EDT
you don't fool me, dude. LOL! Obama has the haters running scared--I love it.
Your candidate, McCain, is so lousy and dull that his supporters have nothing to do but try to instigate whatever trouble they can sniff out between the Dems--NOT THIS TIME! LMAO!!!!!
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Mike W
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:47 am EDT
An admitted troll. Beware of the Rush Limbaugh influenced people who will post here with the intention to divide or create doubt. There may be raw emotions from the hard fought primary. Please be aware that there are people that will try to cause bad feelings because they believe that the only way the republicans can win the election is if the Democratic party divides and fights itself. Not this time. They have already started a war in Iraq with lies. Don't let them stir up trouble here. Welcome ALL Democrats, independents, and Republicans who have seen the light!
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:15 am EDT
Barack:
Well done. You are a breath of hope, finally.
I have an intuition that since Wall Street investors control so much corporate behavior, why not bring Wall Street investment to the average consumer as an economic force. Through "fireside chats", train the average Americans to take adavantage of their new investment group(s)/opportunities (high enrollment, low investment) that you design (or have experts design). The new American investor (the average person) would now have a voice in the direction of the investment/corporate economy giving more power to the many and less to the few. Let some Wall Street exec.'s with integrity work it out and head the funds. Could be a windfall.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:19 am EDT
Anyone see McCain's website? I wanted to check it out to see really what the competition was.
Anyone else think that it is scarily militaristic. I mean, just his Logo for goodness sake!
For a good laugh, check out the "John McCain Timeline!" Not only do you get a picture of how old he really is, for some odd reason, he thinks that the only history that matters is war history, that the Persian gulf involvement was only a few days long, and that the Civil Rights movement mysteriously ended in 1968 with MLK's assassination. There is something WRONG with this picture!
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Cherron in SW Virginia
Jun 8th 2008 at 5:13 am EDT
Yes, I checked it out earlier tonight. People are asking questions but no one is giving answers. HRC supporters have taken over and making posts about her being McSame's VP. It's ticking his supporters off and some are actually rude to them. The blog itself is a mess. Your posts don't reply to the correct posts and no one knows what replies go to what. If you go, check out the store. The prices are outrageous. $200 for a lapel pin - yes, $200. and it's not even made of gold, just an ole pin. $75 for the exact same type fleece blanket we have here. He must be hurting for $$$.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 8:15 am EDT
I watched a special program about the 60s on CNN this past Saturday night. One of the commentators stated that because McCain was in captivity for 5 years and was released after the war was over, he never had real closure, hence his fascination with war and his obsessive desire to "win" the war in Iraq. If this is true, then he does not have the best interest of the soldiers at heart because he has a win at all costs attitude. (I hope I explained this segment correctly and my post makes sense.)
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Shelly
Jun 8th 2008 at 4:20 am EDT
Lifelong Democrat here. I support Hillary because I watched 22 debates and without a doubt think she would have made the best choice for president. I respect her judgment, however, I can't see me casting my vote because Hillary said to.
So, BO supporters, I'm sincerely interested in why you think he will be an effective president. Maybe your perspective will help me (and other Dems who have come to this site today) see him in a different light than I have over the past several months.
Thanks!
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:27 am EDT
First of all as a "lifelong Dem" he's the nominee. As a Clinton supporter she is endorsing him and you trust her words, at least in the debates you did. Thirdly, the other choice is McCain and well your already living with what he plans to do for the country.
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Shelly
Jun 8th 2008 at 4:32 am EDT
Not exactly what I was looking for. I wouldn't vote for McCain. Sometimes I think I might stay home, but I know I won't. I'd just like to feel as good about my vote for Barack as you will.
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Laura Hubka ~From Iowa Where It Started and Will Continue~~~
Jun 8th 2008 at 4:39 am EDT
I would feel the same way if the shoe was on the other foot.
We appreciate your vote.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 8:01 am EDT
Shelley, please see my profile and blog page. I am a former Hillary supporter who made the switch on Wednesday June 4th to start working to elect Barack Obama.
I stayed loyal to Hillary until Michigan & Florida were settled; waited until South Dakota and Montana officially closed the primary season. I, too, had the same fleeting thoughts you did about staying home. BUT...
Truthfully, the differences in policies between the two have always been minimal. Both are extremely talented and committed candidates. But Barack won.
Why vote for him? He's smart; committed; collaborative; creative; Gen X & Y focused (our future voters!;)charismatic; visionary; forward thinking; and he can speech-make like I've haven't seen in decades. Yes, a lot like MLK, JFK, RFK. If he runs the country like he ran his campaign we're in good shape. What an organizer! None of this diminishes Hillary or her accomplishments. It's just another perspective. To elect him doesn't diminish HER.
We can't roll the dice that without our support and unity Obama will get elected. This election is too important. To quote the great Satchel Paige, "Don't look back (somebody might be gaining on you)"
What if McCain got elected? Remember 2000? Look at the last 8 years. Can you gamble on more of the same? Iraq war and occupation for 100 years? No healthcare? Jobs? Infrastructure? Economy? Environment? Continued foreign oil dependence? Roe vs. Wade? The Supreme Court appointments (a very real possibility for the next President. Check out the ages of the moderate Jurists to send a shudder down your spine.)
Read my first blog, if you send me a friend request, I will talk you down off the ledge as a former Hillary supporter.
Watch her speech yesterday again. Better yet, read the full text, really focus on what she said. I re-read it this morning and cried. Not for "woulda, shoulda, coulda" but for the future. And for what she accomplished. And for what we need for America. Both Hillary & Barack love this country. Their differences are minimal.
Think of it - 36 million united, passionate, committed Democrats, AMERICANS!, moving in one stream, in one mind, taking back the country. A voting tsunami! YES, WE CAN! Kathy
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Laura Hubka ~From Iowa Where It Started and Will Continue~~~
Jun 8th 2008 at 4:29 am EDT
Shelly,
What is the biggest thing that you have a problem with in Obama?
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:41 am EDT
Good question! OK, listening to him speak, I probably felt like he might not have the ability to actually accomplish what he wants to accomplish. I think our country is in the worst shape I've ever seen it in my lifetime and felt it would take a seasoned leader to push us back on course.
So why do you think he can accomplish what he wants to? I get his stand on issues and I agree with him (we are of the same philosophical thinking after all).
The other thing that has really been bothering me (should you care to help me with this as well) is that he didn't seem to connect well with the "average joe"...he's very intelligent, much like John Kerry, but that, historically, hasn't set well with the general voting population that watches (forgive the stereo-typing) Fox News and thinks emails saying he's a muslim are fact...you know what I mean?
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Laura Hubka ~From Iowa Where It Started and Will Continue~~~
Jun 8th 2008 at 4:56 am EDT
answer 1: how do we know any candidate will accomplish what they say they will? Hillary did not get her health care plan passed when she worked so hard for it in the 90s. I see first of all he is sticking to his words, keeping the lobbyists and PAC's out of the picture as he has done in his campaign and now has made the DNC do shows me that he will stick to his word. He also helped wright and get passed a sweeping ethics reform that lets us all click on a website and see what the government is spending OUR money on....there is more, I am tired and trying to think...
Answer 2: I can tell you that he did connect with the average joe and working public when given the chance. Only the media made a point of this. Any and every state he was in and was able to spend time in he did connect. I think that the muslim email is just turning into a joke at this point for many people. More people will take a look at him now that he is on top. People will do some research and there will be more lies out thier. But we all as Americans know how the race goes, the republicans put out some bad smear on the Dem. The only thing, thanks to the fight with Hillary for so many months, all of it is known now.
There are some people that just wont vote for Barack, but there are about the same amount out there that would have never voted for Hillary.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 5:04 am EDT
The media didn't tell me he doesn't connect with average Joe. That was my own observation. I live in a very red state. And you're right, there are those who put all sort of stuff on Hillary that she doesn't do or say (you did that in an earlier post) and in my state there are those that hate her, but can't tell you why, they just do.
What I worry about that is my observation that when he speaks he is very intellectual. Personally I LOVE that. But after what they did to John Kerry, I'm leary. Eighteen million have voted for Barack so far....there were 105 million who voted in the presidential election in 2004 and Kerry couldn't seem to get through to those people...I was stunned at the time, I didn't get it. So I fear I see that in Obama now.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 5:14 am EDT
Well, speaking for me...
I guess I'd rather have a really, really smart guy in the White House who could get his head around these huge problems than one I could have birthday cake or a beer with.
Though I suspect you could do either with Barack.
I see where you're coming from, particularly in the context of voters who want someone they can relate to. But keep in mind, voters could definitely relate to Dubya 4 and 8 years ago and look where we are today.
Given a choice, I'll take the smart guy. ;-)
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Jun 8th 2008 at 9:52 am EDT
As I said to someone a couple weeks ago, "Having a "C" student for president hasn't exactly worked out."
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Laura Hubka ~From Iowa Where It Started and Will Continue~~~
Jun 8th 2008 at 5:04 am EDT
Also I think we have seen in this campaign that he has stood up to criticism and some pretty bad press for weeks on end when it came to Wright, and Rezco, the "Bitter" comments and the like.
Barack has made some pretty tough choices already, standing up to Hillary and McCain on the gas tax holiday. I was on board with Obama, because I drive 46 miles one way to work everyday, and I have a job that I get called back to work frequently so I spend about 300 dollars on gas a month if not more. it would only save me 15 dollars. Yeah that is money, but I want the roads to be in good shape to, and a gas tax holiday would have meant a loss of 6 million dollars to the roads. We dont need that!
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Benjamin Vos, Nashville
Jun 8th 2008 at 5:02 am EDT
Shelly, I started out as a skeptic myself. After getting burned by so many presidents who didn't deliver, I was cynical too.
But this group of people - people like Laura Hubka who made literally thousands of phone calls to neighbors and friends in Iowa - made me a believer.
It really stared to hit after Iowa - the reality that we might be getting it right this time. I have been very impressed with my local campaign organization in Nashville.
It's ok to be skeptical. But don't let that stop you from pursuing your big dreams and goals in 2008. Protect your heart, but don't be afraid to try.
If a skinny kid with a funny name could become the Democratic nominee, then anything is possible.
There is nothing false about hope.
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Shelly
Jun 8th 2008 at 5:09 am EDT
Not sure what that means....that a group of people were excited about their candidate. That is always true. I've made hundreds of phone calls myself.
I want to thank everyone for this discussion.
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Benjamin Vos, Nashville
Jun 8th 2008 at 5:28 am EDT
It's more than people getting excited about their candidate. The campaign was never about Barack. It was about the people.
That's why I bring up Laura - she was calling people in Iowa, then she'd get on the blog and tell us about the progress, and ask us for encouragement, and we'd give her updates. And she'd ask for a piece of information or an article, and we'd send her a link to it.
And remember - Laura is someone who had never voted before. She hadn't ever been involved in politics or been excited about a candidate.
It's hard to explain ... the only analogy I can think of is the fact that a lot of loyal Hillary supporters were involved because they wanted a woman as president. But most of us weren't supporting Obama because he's black, or biracial, or a man, or from Hawaii. Most of us started supporting Barack because he represents something different and because he's wanting government by the people and for the people - not government that stands for us, but government that is truly run by us.
Does this make sense?
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Shelly
Jun 8th 2008 at 6:45 am EDT
Ben,
Please see my post below this a bit where I gave you insite into why Hillary supporters chose her. Hillary supporters did not support her just because she is a woman. I explained it in that post. If you are going to work to get people on Barack's side, you must understand their perspective. At least enough to be effective in obtaining what you want. And what you want are the number of votes he's gotten in the primary TIMES 3. That's alot of people.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 8:41 am EDT
Question:
Asuming that Obama becomes POTUS and that Hillary is his VEEP, can she run against him in 2012?
(BTW, anyone know if Big Brown faded because he was off his meds?)
Therapy dogs for Obama!
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Meredith from Portland, OR
Jun 8th 2008 at 5:02 am EDT
I think the country has had 8 years of "average-joe" and look where it has gotten us?
Ok, first off let me just say that the fact that the average population does not value and respect education is appalling!
This is where Obama as an amazing inspirational speaker comes in. His speeches are incredibly intelligent and logical but they are also emotional and heartfelt. I have a masters degree, but end up crying after he speaks. Great speakers have used this tactic forever to connect with those people who are only interested in image and personal connection. FDR, Churchill, JFK, and Clinton all did this.
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Shelly
Jun 8th 2008 at 5:14 am EDT
Meredith! I am sooo with you on your first statement!! Look where we are because people will NOT take the time to get the facts!
But...it is what it is and those people have to vote for our candidate or we're left stunned like we were in '04. Bush was so bad at that time how could anyone have actually voted for him, let alone enough for him to win again??
Barack has to connect to those voters. He has to.
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Benjamin Vos, Nashville
Jun 8th 2008 at 5:21 am EDT
The Democratic message connects to those voters.
That's why the Republicans are left grasping at straws, trying to connect Obama with Jeremiah Wright or Bill Ayers or Tony Rezko. The truth is, none of those people represent who Obama is. We need the support of our fellow Democrats to take on the Republican attack machine.
And here's the kicker, for me ... in 1998, Democrats rallied around Bill and Hillary in spite of the fact that Bill was screwing around with someone else. Hillary "circled the wagons" against the perceived vast right-wing conspiracy (which insulted me ... I am not a conspirator but I don't like people having sex with their subordinates at work).
But when Barack started getting attacked by the right wing smear machine, did Hillary support Barack? No. She added to it - saying she thought Obama's comments about people turning bitter and getting alienanted (when she herself said "screw em" about those same working-class white southern men after the 1994 elections).
That's the dynamic that I saw - especially after Super Tuesday when Maggie Williams took over the Clinton campaign.
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Benjamin Vos, Nashville
Jun 8th 2008 at 5:12 am EDT
And just to piggyback on what Laura said about Average Joes - it's all about the state organization. Clinton OWNED the state organizations in California, West Virginia, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Indiana, etc. She had key surrogates and long-standing contacts in those states. Meanwhile, the McCain campaign launched a full-frontal assault with the help of the 18 million Clinton supporters out there, and together they have managed to really beat up on Obama (Jeremiah Wright, "bittergate", NAFTA goofiness which turned out to be lies from the Canadian government, attacking Michelle for saying she is proud of her country with Barack working as a leader (which was totally out of context), Sean Hannity harping on Obama's connection with Bill Ayers, etc.).
Rush Limbaugh, Townhall.com, and pretty much the entire right-wing has spent the past 3 months doing nothing ... except attacking Obama. McCain had the nomination locked after Super Tuesday. So all the Republicans had to do was focus on what Rush Limbaugh called "Operation Chaos". (See Al Giordano's blog at "The Field" for more on that and how the votes swung to Clinton after the GOP finished the nomination).
So, what we needed after March 4 was unity. The Obama campaign made a decisive effort to pivot from focusing on Hillary to focusing on the general election. After keeping it close in Pennsylvania, the Obama campaign shifted gears and all of us slowed down our pace.
The voters in WV, PR, KY, etc., were not really educated about Obama. It's not a matter of disliking Obama. It's a matter of not knowing who Obama is.
Hope that helps. I've been watching all of this very closely over the past 6 months.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 5:16 am EDT
Well those arent issues you are passionate about but:
The second is easy. I think he will connect with them when they hear his story. Having said that you should want to vote for him more because of that since it appear you are saying you are worried he might lose. The best way to prevent that would be to vote for him.
I think when people hear he grew up with a single mom, until recently was paying off debts etc they will see he is quite close to them. Part of what he must do is let people hear that story. SOme will be from using others. Id also point out he didnt not win them they voted for someone else who had lots of appeal. During the Clinton presidency many people did well financially. the familiarity in part helped. So they voted for someone else not just against him.
As to accomplish he has already done so much. From not great circumstances, single mom, food stamps etc he used his gifts to get to Harvard, do law, first AA leader of law review. On to local government where he was successful in working across the aisle and now into the Senate.
He has shown the judgement re Iraq, Afghanistan and the gas tax holiday that is necessary to lead. You should take comfort that those he works with have seen fit to endorse him so they clearly see something special as well.
It doesnt address any issues that you may care about but hits those points a little
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:33 am EDT
Along with many things he has in common with Hil, I think he is a better speaker, a better diplomat, a better representation of the melting-pot-America, the environment seemed to be more important to him, he has proven his political genius with how fast he moved up the ranks, he has a fresh outlook on Washington because he hasn't been there that long, he talks about things that politicians usually don't talk about and (this was the clincher, I think) when people try to suck him into silly illogical political media stuff, instead of playing into it or refusing to answer, he points out how silly an illogical it is and forces people to realize what is really important: the problems that need to be fixed!
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Shelly
Jun 8th 2008 at 4:48 am EDT
I agree with you on that media! Several months ago I noticed how my beloved CNN and MSNBC became so "sensational" and commented to my friends that I see the change...they're trying to sway like Fox news has for the past several years. I joked that it was kind of a "if you can't beat them join them." And that was before they started calling for Hillary to drop out prematurely a few months ago...after that I wasn't just amused, I was angry! :-)
My favorite was when Bill Clinton told them like it was and Soledad O'Brien got hysterical over it. :-D
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Benjamin Vos, Nashville
Jun 8th 2008 at 5:13 am EDT
CNN and MSNBC started getting hit by "sniper fire" from Republican operatives who were looking to discredit Obama. And when the Clinton campaign "piled on" or "threw Obama under the bus", it just added more fuel to the fire.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:35 am EDT
I am 43 years old, and I have never voted. I know now that this was a huge mistake. And I regret it. I would have never paid any attention to the race if Obama would not have run.
I know that Hillary supporters that I have spoken to think that the words "he is inspirational" is naive and shows my lack of involvement in politics. But the truth is that having a president that inspires us, is so important. We need more people involved and Barack Obama asks us to get involved. No other candidate made me feel like I needed to do anything. When I hear Obama speak, and talk about getting out there and making a difference, I want to do it! I have done it! I have registered voters, I have gotten everyone I know to caucus and vote in the primarys that we just had. I have read, and read, and read about politics, Iran, Iraq, Sunnis, Shiites, Muslim, Jewish. I have gone to the meetings and went on to become the vice chair of my counties democratic party.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:38 am EDT
Hey Shelly. Glad you're here.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:44 am EDT
Are you a true & sincere democrat?
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Shelly
Jun 8th 2008 at 4:57 am EDT
I was one of the first people to join MoveOn.org if that says anything?
I've gotten into very heated political discussions with right-wingers...probably too often...but I was seeing where my country was heading and they were oblivious Bush followers.
But, I'm learning thru this election that I guess I'm not necessarily going to vote for the Democrat because he's the Democrat. I'd stay home before I voted for McCain though. No final decisions on that. But, as I said in an earlier post, I can't see me not voting. But who knows...
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Jun 8th 2008 at 5:16 am EDT
By the way ... I was one of the people who was angry at Moveon.org in 1998-99, because I took Bill Clinton's cheating seriously and felt that it was terrible. I'm a social conservative, very offended by the idea of affairs in the Oval Office with interns.
I voted Bush in 2000, in part because I was wanting to dissociate from anything "Clinton" (like Al Gore, who was his VP). I didn't vote in 2004.
What I realized is that, especially after 9/11, the tone in America shifted and the neoconservatives started to take over the Republicans from the "compassionate conservatives" like me who got Bush elected.
Bush's abuse of faith and his shredding of the Constitution became very troubling to me. It's like "the ends justify the means".
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Shelly
Jun 8th 2008 at 5:32 am EDT
Everything Bush and Cheney have done you could have known they would do during his 2000 campaign if you had researched them a bit. The California Energy Crisis, the "secret" Energy Task Force meeting in April of 2001 (BEFORE 9/11) where Cheney was looking at maps of Iraqi oil fields when it was illegal to do business with or in Iraq due to sanctions in place at the time, refusing to disclose who was in those meetings (Ken Lay among them).
I'm very sorry that you felt that spending $50 million on an investigation that turned from an investigation into financial corruption (which they could not find) into a VERY sneaky and covert personal assault on the President of the United States in front of the world was somehow helpful to this country. So helpful that you disregarded the better candidate in 2000 for the corrupt one.
I'm sorry, but I won't be able to forgive you for that.
But glad you've seen the light now :-)
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Benjamin Vos, Nashville
Jun 8th 2008 at 5:38 am EDT
I totally agree with you that the Bush/Cheney team were corrupt from pretty early on. After what happened in Florida with Bush v. Gore, it just got ugly.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:53 am EDT
Shelly
Mccain is the total opposite of Obama.
He for one wants to continue the war in Iraq for upwards of maybe 100 years.
He wants to continue the economics that Bush believes in.
He will appoint a judge on the Supreme court and they would no doubt over turn Roe vs Wade.
He has already admitted that he knows nothing regarding Economics.
Please do your research on Mccain and I promise you your decision would be easy.
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Shelly
Jun 8th 2008 at 5:20 am EDT
Thanks Amanda, but I've been doing my research for decades. McCain was once an admirable "straight talker"...one I would have either feared that he was electable, or maybe would have even voted for. But in the past 5 years or so he has become an RNC puppet like the rest. It kills me to hear the media talking heads lable him a "maverick"...because he is not. Not anymore. He's under the RNC thumb...just like the good boy you have to be to be "allowed" to be the RNC nominee.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:55 am EDT
Shelly,
Well, based upon the way he conducted his campaign, I'd say that he will definitely put competent people in place, unlike what we have now. and he will manage them well, as he has throughout this campaign.
But more importantly than that, he has a huge grass-roots organization in all 50 states that are committed to the work begun in the primaries. That work isn't just to elect him; it's to work toward implementing change in the country.
Think about the choices here -- John McCain wants to leave us all hanging to shake with the 'markets'. Barack Obama wants us to make a difference, and not just by sitting passively by and waiting for the government to do our work for us.
Finally, when I think about the image of our country and how badly it's been damaged by the yokel in office right now, and the dignity Obama can bring to it, there is absolutely no question in my mind that this man, in this time, can restore our country and undo much of the horrible, despicable work the republicans have done to ruin us all.
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Mr. NOBEL President Obama & Vice-President Biden I Trust and RESPECT!
Jun 8th 2008 at 5:04 am EDT
Shelly,
Will you come back? I am too tired to post tonight, but I will say:
Obama has walked the ordinary life like most ordinary American citizens.
He continues to be discriminated against for his name and the color of his skin.
He taught US Constitutional law and wants equality and fairness for every person.
He is up-to-date on today's technology which can benefit and advance our country from lagging further behind in jobs, economy, education and security.
He uses language that even my 14 yr old daughter can understand and feels so honored to hopefully have a President that she can look up to, respect and honor (as do I).
Most people only complain what is wrong, Obama has worked his way up to change it. This is why he refuses lobbyists money... he is well-informed as to why nothing can ever get changed to improve the lives of everyday citizens.
His communication and listening skills are incredible... If any negotiating is to be done, he is the one we can count on for the BEST results inside and outside of our country.
I feel he genuinely cares about our country and all people. To me, his actions have not denied that he doesn't.
He is good to look at and gives peace in his spoken words that have become an addiction of mine to hear.
He is a special human being.
Good-night. I am so very glad you are here.
P.S.~ McCain terrifies me and my daughter as well.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 5:05 am EDT
Hi Shelly
I can give you the reasons he appeals to me but more importantly what issues do you care about?
If you can answer that or perhaps what you found appealing about Senator Clinton can give you a much better answer
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Hoang
Jun 8th 2008 at 5:29 am EDT
I wonder if the huge support he receives from all over the world will convince you that he will be able to make the change.
And by the way, he never said that this campaign is about him only. Look at the top of this page: "I'M ASKING YOU TO BELIEVE. Not just in my ability to bring about real change in Washington... I'm asking you to believe in yours." He asks you if you are ready to be the change you seek.
If you are willing to do it, then change is gonna come. So may people have been involved in this process and they have made history. He has won a formidable and "inevitable" candidate for president. He was down 30pts several months ago and now, he has won! This is HUGE, don't you agree with me?
Please listen to his speeches, he asks you to believe in yourself and your ability to make change. When he won, he thanked his staff, the volunteers, and other people. "this is because of you that I can stand here today..."
So it's up to you to decide - whether you yourself are ready for change or not.
Best wishes from SIngapore,
A friend of yours
BTW, you can check out his speeches on youtube
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Jun 8th 2008 at 5:52 am EDT
Thank you for your post. Those are good things.
I'm going to take this opportunity to tell you a bit about Hillary. Maybe it will make me feel better and also help Barack supporters understand a bit about her supporters.
Hillary worked as a law clerk during the Nixon impeachment. She's been a lifelong Democrat. She is intelligent, gracious and people from her college days speak highly of how kind and positive of a person she was. She wrote a book called It Takes a Village after Bill became president. It showed her compassion and care for our society. She worked hard on a health care plan...and it failed (another plus in her column today, because to have tried and failed is to have learned a lot). She suffered the humiliation brought on by Bill and the RNC attack machine, and she suffered quietly and kept her dignity. She became Senator for NY and is respected highly by her colleagues on both sides of the aisle. She has campaigned tirelessly for months because she wants to be president? Yes, but also because her heart aches for the mess this country is in. You do not spend your entire life as a Democrat and not have your heart hurt over the mess we're in. She is sincere. Is she tough? You bet she is. Is she a bitch? Maybe, but I think we needed a bitch on our side right now.
It saddens me to hear people say such awful things about this woman who has worked hard her whole life, failed, been humiliated, and yet still she keeps working for the average American. Look at her daughter? What an undeniable example of a beautiful, intelligent young woman. So unlike the Bush twins. Hillary is her mother and that is why Chelsea is as she is.
When it might have been easier to just quit this race, she didn't because she promised her supporters she would not quit on them. And she kept her word. She did not run for president in 2004 like everyone encouraged her to do because when elected Senator she said she would finish her term as Senator and would not try to run for president in 2004. And she kept her word. She said she would support Obama if he were the nominee and she kept her word.
Please give her the respect she has earned.
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Hoang
Jun 8th 2008 at 6:03 am EDT
Yep, I respect and admire her (just that I used to feel insecure with her instable emotions)... But anyway, she is really an intelligent, strong willed, and tough woman. She deserves respect.
Many people here VOTE FOR OBAMA and they are not against anybody.
So have a great day my friend! I wonder if you went to sleep since I saw many of your replies and I think you didn't sleep.
Take your time. Have a rest and enjoy all the best things that have happened. (^_*)
GO OBAMA!
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Shelly
Jun 8th 2008 at 6:12 am EDT
Instable emotions? Really?
That's not gonna help unify the democratic party Hoang.
I'm just saying....
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Hoang
Jun 8th 2008 at 6:24 am EDT
During the heated debate, I felt that way... And I just told the truth about my feelings. But let the past be passed. That's why I said, "I used to" and now "she deserves respect" and recognition of her historic campaign.
Sorry if I upset you. The healing process is just starting... Everything will be fine...
GO OBAMA!
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Benjamin Vos, Nashville
Jun 8th 2008 at 5:35 am EDT
Obama will be an effective president because he'll organize people more effectively than anyone ever has before.
One good example - before a bill becomes law, he'll wait 5 days and accept feedback from the people. He wants our feedback. And if we cry out and say it's no good, he'll veto it on our behalf.
That's one example.
He'll also be effective in the way he was effective in getting death penalty legislation passed in Illinois, or in the way he was effective to get health coverage for 150,000 additional residents in Illinois. He'll work from core principles based in the Constitution, develop a working consensus, and work harder than anyone else to make sure that we get things done.
Of course there's no guarantee that Obama will get things done in terms of legislation, because ultimately that's up to the Congress. But look at what he's done with Project Vote, with being president of Harvard Law Review, or with the way he's run this campaign!
Obama is getting things done. He's a calm, no-nonsense executive who patiently deals with crises. He doesn't get too high or too low. He understands and respects the Constitution. And he's willing and able to put his ego aside for the sake of something greater. He's what Jim Collins calls a "Level 5 Leader" in his book "Good to Great".
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Jun 8th 2008 at 10:48 am EDT
Hi Shelly,
You asked what makes Obama's supporters believe he will be able to deliver on his proposals. That's an important concern, and I'd like to address it.
Obama built his campaign on the theme of "change", and that means a different way of doing business in Washington. Obama has a strong position of no lobbyists, special interest during this campaign or influencing his administration if elected. Most people don't realize that this is HUGE. The main thing that keeps politicians from delivering fully, or at all, is the markers that lobbyists and special interests groups have on them.
Most politians probably have good intentions and really want to deliver what they promised, however, if they are beholden to lobbists/special interests, then they are very restricted as to how far they can go. In most cases, the corporations represented by the lobbyists/spec interests have agendas that are contrary to that of the people. Therefore most politicians are forced to either renig on promises, or at best, craft something far less than what they promised in order to appease both sides.
I have been actively involved in the political process for 30 years, and I have never seen a politician have the insight to recognize the debilitating effect of the lobbyist/spec interest system and then to be bold enough to denounce and refuse it. Washington is drunk and addicted to this system.
Delivering Obama to the White House, means we deliver a President whose hands are not shackled by these groups and therefore, he will be free to roll up his sleeves and tend to the peoples business without hindrance from these groups calling in markers. Pharmaceutical, Oil, Insurance, and Energy Corporations, won't be able to demand more attention to their agenda than the people's agenda.
Of all the candidates from either party, Obama is the only one who took such a strong stand on this, and that is what makes him stand out as being more likely to produce real deliverables. He has removed himself from the greatest threat to those deliverables.
His commitment to this was demonstrated when he came out the day after he clinched the nomination and required the DNC(who will be running ads on his behalf during the general) to stop taking lobbyist and pac donations.
Only if business as usual in Washington is changed can we expect to see the best results.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:20 am EDT
From now on people, when ever you want to refer to McCain, please make sure you use 'John W. Bush McCain.'
Ex: We cannot support John W. Bush McCain because he is advocating the failed policies of Dick Cheney.
Ex: John W. Bush McCain refuses to support a recent G.I. bill in congress, citing "it gives too much benefits to our veterans."
Ex: America cannot entrust a currently unstable U.S. economy to John W. Bush McCain who is on record saying, he does not understand the economy.
Please, spread the word about John W. Bush McCain.
America cannot afford John W. Bush McCain--not in treasure and definitely not in blood.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:27 am EDT
Ex: If John W. Bush McCain continues to have the marketing sense of a (green) feces throwing chimp he wont be going anywhere near the White House.
Seriously. Have you seen the guy's webpage? It is so discordant it gives me a headache. But I dont really mind because it uses so much Obama imagery that I have to wonder who the page is for, Obama or McCain.
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Benjamin Vos, Nashville
Jun 8th 2008 at 4:29 am EDT
I personally think that's lame. Besides, why would I want to see Bush's name on this blog any more than I absolutely HAVE TO?
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Franklin A. T.
Jun 8th 2008 at 4:40 am EDT
It is the imagery. You can always shorten it to Bush McCain, but feel free to use his full name, John W. Bush McCain.
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Benjamin Vos, Nashville
Jun 8th 2008 at 4:59 am EDT
If I wanted to shorten it, I'd just shorten it to John BM.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:30 am EDT
How about JohnGeorge McCainBush.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:32 am EDT
Daniel:
We'll have to agree to disagree. The decision is ultimately Barack's. I see no insecurities on his part whatsoever -- after all, he has a very independent, accomplished and loving wife, so he doesn't have a problem with strong women.
With the Clintons having been in the White House for 8 years already, I just think the Obama presidency needs to stand on its own legacy, principles and merits. There is a reason the constitutional amendment was added limiting U.S. presidents to two 4-year terms. Hillary and Bill come as a political pair, which is the equivalent of a third term in office, even if the method is through the back door of the presidency.
The popular vote figures are in dispute, since Michigan and Florida should rightfully not be included in the count since the primaries were flawed. Also, the caucus totals are not included in Hillary's count, which is unfair to Barack.
Again, we'll have to agree to disagree. I would probably feel the same way if our positions were reversed.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 5:06 am EDT
RCP
2008 Democratic Popular Vote
Popular Vote Count
Estimate w/IA, NV, ME, WA*
Obama 17,869,542 48.2%
Clinton 17,717,698 47.8%
Obama +151,844 +0.4%
Estimate w/IA, NV, ME, WA*
Obama 18,107,710 48.1%
Clinton 18,046,007 47.9%
Obama +61,703 +0.2%
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Jun 8th 2008 at 11:55 am EDT
I also don't think it likely or a good idea to run with Hillary as VP. If Barack wants to win, he needs a strong person on the ticket without the baggage Sen. Clinton brings. To be a change candidate, he needs to highlight his ticket being capable but not entrenched D.C. insiders.
But I do think there is a place for her in the cabinet- I hope we get to see that!
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Jun 8th 2008 at 8:35 am EDT
Daniel wrote:
If Obama is for inclusion and is secure enough, he will have Hill on the ticket. It is entirely possible that he would feel insecure with Hillary around, and in that case he doesn't deserve to be POTUS.
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Daniel,
I'm not picking up a lot of logic in your reasoning. I'm not saying it isn't there — only that you're not sharing it with us.
If Obama is for inclusion, then he has to include thousands of great people as his choice for VP. Including Hillary means excluding everyone else, so that isn't really a good reason.
Then you create the straw man "if" statement, with nothing to back it up.
Hillary supporters need to ask themselves something: Do you really think she'd be a good vice-president? Isn't that a waste of her talents? He's a policy wonk, a details person, and a fighter for her causes. Can you use those talents and do all that as Vice? A Vice is more of a jack of all trades, master of none.
I could see Hillary as an awesome Senate Majority Leader. She could set the tone of the Senate, keep everyone on task, dictate the legislative agenda. Vice President? She'd get one special project and then go to a lot of state funerals.
Be careful what you wish for, because it might come true.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:03 pm EDT
HRC as VP would be a mistake for a change candidate and for the fact that she cannot unring the bell of her criticisms against Barack. Also he would be viewed as weak from the get-go for selecting her under pressure and she would be an Administration-In-Waiting VP. He needs a VP who meshes with the change message and carries serious credentials that balance out his own. In this sad Country, it also needs to be a White man to satisfy those Democrats who will have a hard enough time supporting a Black candidate for President. Sad, but true reality. I have every faith that Barack will choose the right person for VP. It's not a position that anyone "deserves." Obama '08
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Jun 8th 2008 at 3:01 pm EDT
My understanding is the nominee gets to choose his VP. Any of his competitors for the nomination have no power in this selection process whatsoever. Obama must carefully examine the issues around who will strengthen his ticket to win the White House. HRC, if he chooses to consider her, would have to be scrutinized like everyone else in this regard. This is the best way to go -- Obama has to effectively communicate with and regularly rely on and his VP and should have the utmost say in who it will be. I understand your compassion for your candidate Daniel, but once a nominee is declared, he focuses on his new competitor, in this case John McCane, and how to beat him rather than seeking to console his primary opponent and her supporters. That's just the way it goes and HRC would do the same if she were the nominee. Believe me, HRC knows how the process works, as she's been through it with Bill, and will not take it personally if she's not chosen. Glad to have you onboard with Obama!
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:28 am EDT
And he has... and he will...
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:31 am EDT
I love David Axelrod for the support he gives BO
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:28 am EDT
Bubby Irma's Gefilte Fish
2 carrots
1 large onion
1/2 cup water
1 raw egg
1/2 cup matzo meal
1 tsp salt
1 Tbsp sugar
1/2 tsp pepper
1 kilo fresh ground fish -- either carp or a mixture of carp, white fish and/or pike. The fishes can be mixed. Nile perch is a new addition to our list of fishes. Nile perch is used alone.
Grind together all the Ingredients, and then mix in the ground fish. At this point the fish may be formed into logs -- approx 3" wide and 12" long - wrapped tightly into tin foil for freezing. Frozen fish may be cooked in the log form. It is easy to slice for individual servings. Or, ovals about the size of a pear can be formed. Drop them into boiling sauce and allow them to cook slowly for 2 hours. Let cool before removing the fish balls from the sauce.
Cooking Sauce for Gefilte Fish
4 cups water
4 carrots
3 onions
1 Tbsp salt & 1 tsp pepper
2 Tbsp sugar
fish bones and heads
Bring to a boil and add the fish balls or logs.
Serve with Horseradish on a bed of lettuce. A slice of the cooked carrot adds color to the dish.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:29 am EDT
Not with your brand of poison in it.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:26 am EDT
Mc-INSANE TROLLS BOTHERING YOU?! THANKS TO BILL O'RILED-LY WE HAVE A POWERFUL DEFENSE!!! HA HA HA HA HA!
Just feed 'em this link! If nothin' else it will make us ALL laugh (AT THEM)!!!!!!!!!!!
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IT'LL DRY UP THEIR INARDS LIKE MOST PESKY RODENTS!
LOL!
WE'LL DO IT LIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!
CAN'T YOU JUST SEE McSHAME SAYIN' THIS!
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:30 am EDT
Love it. The man is truly, well, unstable. Just a wee-bit wound up.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:32 am EDT
Now I can go to bed happy. OMFG.
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Kristian "I Ain't Afraid of No GOPs" Idol
Jun 8th 2008 at 7:22 am EDT
As I posted on YouTube, I have tears streaming down my cheeks.
Funniest. Video. Ever.
If O'Reilly can play the Rev. Wright micro-clips non-stop, than we can play his ranting. "Live by the sword", you know.
FIRE BILL O'REILLY.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:27 am EDT
Andrew Sullivan writes a great article in the London Times today about Obama's prospects. It also celebrates Obama and America's remarkable historical achievement in nominating an African American/biracial person to highest office. (he makes the point about biracial, not me. I'm not making any sort of statement here about that :-))
He says he will win in a landslide. I think this might have been published in the American press already. Anyway, it's a great read and very encouraging about our guy!
Here's the link:
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Ryan Kauffman in Portland
Jun 8th 2008 at 4:47 am EDT
awesome article...
to: anyone who doubts Barack's terrorism plans
"This bottom-up approach to politics – rallying the forces below in order to help to shift the balance of power at the surface - is central to Obama’s community organising approach to politics. It is how he will ameliorate, but not transform, the still difficult tasks of security and diplomacy in a world still at risk from Islamist terror."
we can fight an ever escalating, never ending, forever expanding war on terror. Or we can include the dissatisfied peoples of the world in our community thereby taking away their desire to commit acts of terror. Its our choice... we make all the guns.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:29 am EDT
GOOD MORNING OBAMA NATION OR SHOULD I SAY GOOD NIGHT!
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TastyTone is apparently a MuslisocicommienaziKenyafacist supporter
Jun 8th 2008 at 4:42 am EDT
But what the nation really needs are cold sandwiches for hungry unborn fetuses.
He's so out of touch.
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Daniel from Los Angeles, CA (I believe in Barack!)
Jun 8th 2008 at 4:30 am EDT
im a late night reader
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Jeffrey from Porter Ranch, CA
Jun 8th 2008 at 4:34 am EDT
I can now truly call myself a......DIEHARD supporter! GO OBAMA!!!
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Barack916
Jun 8th 2008 at 4:38 am EDT
yippee KAI yay?
(Me too. I'm up late, even for the west coast.)
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Reggie; Who Just Signed Up For An 8 Year Tour Of "O"-Duty!!!
Jun 8th 2008 at 5:18 am EDT
Well that would be truely sad Daniel. Nader can't win and all your voting for him will do is give the republicans a better chance of keeping the White House. Voting for no one amounts to the same thing.
Question are you simply for the Hillary, or the positions and policies of Hillary. If it is the the former thats sad. I'm a REAL Micheal Jordan fan but he'd never get my vote for President!! If it is the latter then her are what the effects would be if McCain were elected because of your decision
Illegal wiretaping of american citizens would be continued. McCain agrees with Bush that the President has this athority.
We will be in Iraq indefinitely.
Universal Health Care will become PRIVATIZED Health Care
Our Troops will not recieve the benifits proposed in the Webb-Warner GI Bill. McCain will veto it.
Equal Pay for women will also be vetoed by McCain
McCain will nominate Justices it the Supreme Court who are in the mold of Alito and Roberts. Thereby insuring the a womens right to choose is will be NO MORE!!!
Daniel these are but a few of the consequences of such a decision. Believe me the hits will keep on coming.
Bomb Bomb Bomb ... Bomb Bomb Iran Daniel. Does that sound like fun???
I understand your hurt and frustratio; but don't let that lead you to take an action based on an "I'll show you" emotion that will ultimately lead to a result that goes totally against everything you and your prefered choice Hillary stands for.
Think about it. Please feel free to respond here or write me a mail if you'd like to talk more.
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Coracii - Counting The Days Until January 20th, 2009
Jun 8th 2008 at 7:15 am EDT
I seem to remember last time people voted for Nader we ended up with Bush in the White House. How's that working out for the last 7.5 years?
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Pizzaro
Jun 8th 2008 at 7:57 am EDT
Daniel enough of this. I doubt your sincerity. I think you just want to stir up trouble.
You are free to do whatever you please.
Folks lets move on
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Jun 8th 2008 at 8:44 am EDT
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Jun 8th 2008 at 8:45 am EDT
By Daniel from Lake Forest, IL Today at 4:38 am EDT
If Hillary is not on the ticket, I will vote for Nader.
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That is quite revealing, Daniel. If you can't have it your way, you're going to take your ball and go home?
Nader was a great public servant at one time, but now he's a shell of his former self and a self-promoting egomaniac. Publicly asserting that he is your second choice speaks volumes about your first choice.
Again, be careful what you wish for. For Hillary to take the VP slot would be a step down for her. She could do so much more as Senate Majority Leader or on the SCOTUS.
Daniel, allow me to be blunt: You are confusing "winning" and "success." Winning means to come out as #1 in a contest, which frequently has arbitrary and capricious rules. Success means getting the job done, taking care of business, and having fun along the way.
Hillary is already a success and will continue to be a success as long as her supporters stop defining success merely as "winning."
I recommend that you think hard about her strengths and weaknesses, and then try to match those to the job that best suits them. I believe that if you do so honestly, you'll reconsider the whole "on the ticket or else" ultimatum. There are a lot of ways to be successful without defining it in such a limited way.
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Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus!
Jun 8th 2008 at 9:04 am EDT
Well that is your choice make sure it's the right one!
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Janice
Jun 8th 2008 at 3:14 pm EDT
Be careful of not making this election process too personal. After all, it's not only about us personally, it's about the country or all Americans' welfare we need to think about. Rather than vote vindictively, calm down and get more information about the Obama campaign. You'll be more satisfied with your vote if you cast it with a level head rather than a hot one.
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Bon
Jun 8th 2008 at 3:50 pm EDT
Ahhhh, I understand. So, you'd DISHONOR your candidate Hillary by helping McCain get into office?
That's what enough votes for Nader would help do.
Make a lot of sense!
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Jun 8th 2008 at 4:41 am EDT
Just wanted to mention that on the Larry King panel tonight, Robert Wexler did his thing again. He stands out every time I see him speak. Gov. Rendell (whose face looked to be dripping with oil--I just wanted to dab his face through the TV) and two Rep ladies were on with him.
Rendell would say good things about Obama, but Wexler, whoa, he really had the energy and passion.
I loved when he said that McCain can now expect his free ride to be over. He cited some gaffes of McCain's and mentioned that when women find out he wants to overturn Roe. vs Wade and seniors learn of his horrible social security policies, they'll come running to Obama.
Neither Republican said a word in response. They know it's true deep down. Wexler is ready to take down McCain. I am too!
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Franklin A. T.
Jun 8th 2008 at 4:48 am EDT
I am hoping for Wexler to take Nelson's Senate seat when he retires. The guy knows what he is talking about.
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Karoli
Jun 8th 2008 at 5:00 am EDT
I think Wexler rocks. Especially when he's mad about something, which is often. :)
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Barack916
Jun 8th 2008 at 4:51 am EDT
Wexler's the real deal. Thanks for posting this; it's extremely encouraging.
He's a genuine fighter and is ready to stand up (not just for Obama) but against any and all forms of incompetent/corrupt Bush administration practices.
"Wexler is ready to take down McCain. I am too!"
And me too.
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Meredith from Portland, OR
Jun 8th 2008 at 4:49 am EDT
A couple of days ago, the Committee on Intelligence came out with their report about Bush and his tactics in starting the Iraqi war.
Please take a look at it, every one!!! I don't know why it hasn't gotten bigger news coverage, but it should be grounds for impeachment, if not over 4000 counts of wrongful death.
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The fact that Obama saw through the WMD BS in the first place, should be reason enough for him to be in office.
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Ryan Kauffman in Portland
Jun 8th 2008 at 5:00 am EDT
Well thats cause obama is not THE DECIDER! who wants a president that wastes precious moments thinking about a course of action?
oh, and I'm glad the scott mcclellen informed oreilly that nukes are WMDs. i wanna send a big thank you to keith olberman for that clip.
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Kestrel
Jun 8th 2008 at 5:16 am EDT
Even beyond the report by the Committee on Intelligence, the more one pokes around, the more inconsistencies one finds in the Bush/Cheney argument for invading Iraq and Afghanistan AND their "official story" about the events surrounding 9/11.
How come a Rockefeller predicted an "event" would occur to trigger war 11 months before 9/11? This is crazy.
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Karoli
Jun 8th 2008 at 4:50 am EDT
Since Michelle Obama has become the target of choice for the hateful right, and also because Senator Clinton did shatter so many barriers, we cannot allow the McCain campaign and surrogates to trivialize ANY woman, including Michelle Obama.
In that vein, I offer you this blog post
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Barack916
Jun 8th 2008 at 4:54 am EDT
How pathetic would the right have to be to go after Michelle?
Extremely.
A simple answer to a simple question.
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Karoli
Jun 8th 2008 at 4:59 am EDT
They ARE pathetic, but they will do it just like they did it to Hillary Clinton when Bill ran for office.
Only now, Senator Clinton makes it possible for us to say,
Not this time.
The sexist pigs should just give it up now, because I will not allow Michelle Obama to be dragged over the coals in the name of electing her husband.
Grrrr.
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Barack916
Jun 8th 2008 at 5:04 am EDT
You got it, Karoli.
They will only be dragging themselves over the coals this time.
It's an exciting time to be on the non-sexist, non-racist side of history, isn't it?
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Laura Hubka ~From Iowa Where It Started and Will Continue~~~
Jun 8th 2008 at 5:20 am EDT
I got this email from a friend today:
Pass this along.
Republicans are going to twist Michelle Obama's words. Republicans are saying they will release a video with Michelle Obama calling Caucasians "whitey"
Please take a moment to read this article.
http://www. boomantribune. com/story/2008/6/1/235757/2325
The Michelle Tape
by BooMan
Sun Jun 1st, 2008 at 11:57:57 PM EST
My old friend, Larry Johnson, knows about manipulating elections from his training with the Central Intelligence Agency. He doesn't want Obama to win the nomination for whatever reason, and he's in full propaganda mode to do everything he can to frighten the superdelegates. He claims to have a shocking tape of Michelle Obama ranting in some anti-white diatribe. He promises to produce this tape tomorrow at 9am.
From what I understand, it is a tape of Michelle Obama criticizing the Bush administration.
How you'd write it:
Why did Bush cut folks off medicaid?
Why did Bush let New Orleans drown?
Why did Bush do nothing about Jena?
Why did Bush put us in Iraq for no reason?
How you'd say it:
Why'd he cut folks off medicaid?
Why'd he let New Orleans drown?
Why'd he do nothing about Jena?
Why'd he put us in Iraq for no reason?
How Larry Johnson wants you to hear it:
Whitie cut folks off medicaid?
Whitie let New Orleans drown?
Whitie do nothing about Jena?
Whitie put us in Iraq for no reason?
I'm going to be honest with you. Both SusanHu and Larry Johnson have been friends of mine. They have both done a lot for me and I am grateful and indebted to them. Any issues I've had with their activities in this election I have kept private. I haven't visited their site in four months because I found it too personally painful to read what they were writing and I did not want to be tempted to respond. I thought I owed them that. But loyalty can only go so far.
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Ryan Kauffman in Portland
Jun 8th 2008 at 5:12 am EDT
It's beyond pathetic because Michelle is raising two young children and keeping her charismatic, amazing young husband from getting too full of himself. As if that wasn't too much she's campaigning too and raising Sasha and Meliah (spelling? Sorry Obamas!).
I'm sure that if the crazed liberal dog doesn't bite with the American people the Republican attack machine will try a deadbeat mother/ father approach even though everyone knows its breaking both Barack and Michelle's hearts to spend any time away from those two girls.
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Kathy
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:41 am EDT
I LOVE Michelle Obama. Truthfully, as a recovery Hillary supporter, I warmed to Michelle before I "got" Barack. I think it should be "hands off" family members. I really respected Barack when he said in no uncertain terms "Leave my wife out of this." (If only the Clintons had been smart enough back in the'90's to have said what Chelsea said, "It's none of your business" so much could've been avoided.) I love, love, love Michelle. She's feisty. I look forward to having her as our First Lady. Yes, everything Hillary said yesterday applies to Michelle, Barack's daughters, and women everywhere. Kathy
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Tammy from Franklin, TN
Jun 8th 2008 at 4:57 am EDT
I am admittedly one of the die hards! I can't get enough of this campaign. In recent years, our government has treated us like we don't matter; that the will of the people was irrelevant.
THIS campaign has given me hope and reminded me that every person's contribution matters and that together we really can change the country and the world. It has changed the message that my children are getting from their government! It is reminding them that anything is possible, if we work hard and believe. WE are the ones that we have been waiting for!
Thank you Senator Obama (soon to be President Obama) for bringing the "Yes we can!: message back to the people and reminding us that there is nothing false about HOPE!
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Tammy from Franklin, TN
Jun 8th 2008 at 5:02 am EDT
I am admittedly one of the die hards! I can't get enough of this campaign. In recent years, our government has treated us like we don't matter; that the will of the people was irrelevant.
THIS campaign has given me hope and reminded me that every person's contribution matters and that together we really can change the country and the world. It has changed the message that my children are getting from their government! It is reminding them that anything is possible, if we work hard and believe. WE are the ones that we have been waiting for!
Thank you Senator Obama (soon to be President Obama) for bringing the "Yes we can!: message back to the people and reminding us that there is nothing false about HOPE!
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Benjamin Vos, Nashville
Jun 8th 2008 at 5:48 am EDT
Hi, Tammy! I work in Franklin.
Would like to befriend you but you don't have a public profile.
Let's win TN!
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Tammy from Franklin, TN
Jun 8th 2008 at 5:03 am EDT
I am admittedly one of the die hards! I can't get enough of this campaign. In recent years, our government has treated us like we don't matter; that the will of the people was irrelevant.
THIS campaign has given me hope and reminded me that every person's contribution matters and that together we really can change the country and the world. It has changed the message that my children are getting from their government! It is reminding them that anything is possible, if we work hard and believe. WE are the ones that we have been waiting for!
Thank you Senator Obama (soon to be President Obama) for bringing the "Yes we can!: message back to the people and reminding us that there is nothing false about HOPE!
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!st time in 2nd District - Omaha for Obama
Jun 8th 2008 at 5:08 am EDT
Wh is on the thread?
Yes We Will |
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Helen E from Fort Washington, MD
Jun 8th 2008 at 5:08 am EDT
Yes we can and YES WE WILL ELECT Barack Obama in November for our President.
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praying4obama
Jun 8th 2008 at 5:12 am EDT
yes we will!
BELIEF POEM |
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violet
Jun 8th 2008 at 5:17 am EDT
An energy field a force
that's alive, the source.
The root containing the tree,
a seed,
the future yet to be,
belief.
As fruit contains seeds
and seeds contain fruit,
in the soil of belief
all things take root.
Violetpoet1@gmail.com
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Jun 8th 2008 at 5:11 am EDT
just got back from the casino and I can't do anything without mentioning barack! I did some campaigning while having fun!
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Jun 8th 2008 at 5:15 am EDT
God morning Asley
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!st time in 2nd District - Omaha for Obama
Jun 8th 2008 at 5:15 am EDT
Sorry...make that Good and Ashley!!
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praying4obama
Jun 8th 2008 at 5:17 am EDT
hi! I am pumped cause I am going to an obama party this afternoon!
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!st time in 2nd District - Omaha for Obama
Jun 8th 2008 at 5:18 am EDT
How fun for you...what's the party? By the way, your picture is adorable..
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praying4obama
Jun 8th 2008 at 5:24 am EDT
We are having an end of the primary party here in our area for all of the volunteers. FUN!
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!st time in 2nd District - Omaha for Obama
Jun 8th 2008 at 5:27 am EDT
I have several GE SUMMER TEAS FOR BARACK FOR PRESIDENT in the making; however we weren't able to do any end of Primary celebrating! The week was too overshadowed. So we are moving on.
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OREGON_4_OBAMA_IN_08
Jun 8th 2008 at 5:49 am EDT
You can count on my vote and contributions to the campaign. Thank you for having the courage to stand up for what is right! You won our state in the primary and you can guarantee you will have our support and win in November.
--Jeff in Oregon
McCain's character hasn't been exemplary |
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Carol Porter
Jun 8th 2008 at 5:16 am EDT
Learn more about McCain in this article from the UK's Daily Mail:
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roper
Jun 8th 2008 at 5:22 am EDT
cindy is no angel either stole drugs from her own company and i heard she stole money from her charity orginization
then not reporting her taxes is beyond shameless
remeber the republicans tried to hang kerry for his wife not releasing her taxes
but yet do you hear any cry for her to release her taxes hell no shes one of them
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roper
Jun 8th 2008 at 5:23 am EDT
cindy is no angel either stole drugs from her own company and i heard she stole money from her charity orginization
then not reporting her taxes is beyond shameless
remeber the republicans tried to hang kerry for his wife not releasing her taxes
but yet do you hear any cry for her to release her taxes hell no shes one of them
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Penny
Jun 8th 2008 at 6:20 am EDT
There are two contrasting "genes" in our American DNA (patriotism and race) that may explain why the American public may be reluctant to hold Sen McCain accountable for any of his personal hang-ups and hold Barack too much accountable for his associations with a church in which black liberation theology has been, and continues to be, preached.
Sen McCain has been living off his VietNam POW experience ever since he began to move into the political arena. The press and the public in America have been, and continue to be, reluctant to say anything critical of McCain. Notice that this article is not from an American outlet, but comes from England. McCain knows this and has carefully cultivated a "maverick" image that he has bolstered from time to time with positions that support his persona.
What has been covered up are McCain's somewhat unseemly outbursts, both personally and politically. As I have observed him over the years, I have seen a person who has a streak of cruelty in him that is somewhat frightening to see in a would-be president. Other senators in his own party have seen that same streak, but have been reluctant to take him on because of his POW status. Sen McCain is now using that same POW status to elevate his campaign.
To many Americans, Sen McCain's narrative represents patriotism, apple pie, the beautiful wife, beautiful children-you can't beat those images in a celebrity-obssessed country. To these same Americans, Barack's narrative represents race (that four-letter word that is in the DNA of our country that no one wants to talk about, and the church association runs counter to their ideas about which of the two men is the "true" American). Pres Bush ran in 2000 and in 2004 on those same ideas that Sen McCain is running on now, except Pres Bush was not a patriot like McCain, and he really is an intellectually, incurious man-a deadly combination!!
Barack's story is a unique tale of the American dream that I hope, will capture the imagination enough of those same people who love the patriotic image that McCain represents. I was there in 1968 when Nixon won because America was still enthralled with the "patriotic" narrative. I hope that enough of us will see through this narrative to vote for our future. It is really up to the ObamaNation to try and help them.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 5:21 am EDT
I have listened several times to Clinton's endorsement. It was a good endorsement and allows the party to move forward as it invites her supporters to come behind Obama.
However, the speech was fascinating from another aspect as it showed why Clinton could not have succeeded in the end. She began as a great candidate that just happened to be a woman, but above all else she ended as a Champion for women as a woman. Although she also made it plain that she supported all who followed her.
With Obama we have a destinct difference. From the start he has respresented ALL Americans and continues on this path without deviation. Others have tried to pocket him and label him, but he holds fast in this simply stated, but hard to deliver statement.
It is Obama's central willingness to represent ALL American that brought him through the Primaries and I believe that it is this difference that will bring him through to be President.
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Nanci A patriotic dissident
Jun 8th 2008 at 5:52 am EDT
Good observations. I think she hit all the right notes, but I was fascinated by what she didn't say. And I think her speech, for all sorts of reasons, not just the ones you mentioned, show why she's a politician of the past, and Obama is a politician for the 21st century.
It's a world view thing at the most fundamental level. And I think that's going to be the hardest thing for Clinton supporters to overcome in coming over to this campaign. At a very fundamental level she's one of the best candidates the 20th century had to offer, but the zeitgeist of the age has moved on and Obama embodies the new. I also think that's why the race was so close....the old versus the new (and I don't mean by age)
And you can't make people shift their world view over night. Some will shift easily because they don't have so much invested in a particular way of looking at the world. The shift doesn't threaten their identity.
However, for many, particularly those still posting hateful comments on Clinton's website, the world view shift threatens their very sense of identity and how they make sense of the world. I would also put the Clintons and their key advisors in this category. She has vowed to support Obama, but it was in the old way, not the new way and they are like oil and water.
I hope that Obama can win without compromising his values and vision of the world whilst still unifying the party. It is a huge challenge and I would warn him not to pander too much but to have confidence in his vision. He seems to and he seems like a very cool cat, so I imagine his vision will slowly, inexorably, like a river wearing a canyon through hard rock, will prevail.
And I am committed to help as much as I can to win people over, but for some it will never happen and that's okay too.
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ObamaWill
Jun 8th 2008 at 6:00 am EDT
Nanci, I feel we both have studied many aspects of the campaigns and the systems in a more global way and come to many similar if not identical conclusions of this complex platform. I do feel that you are correct in this fundamental statement of old and new. However, much of the old is good and ALL the old should be used as a fondation to support the new. In this way All have their part to play. Helping each element to take its place is hard and even more so if you are coaxing a former leader of an aspect of a compaign to step into a supporting role.
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Nanci A patriotic dissident
Jun 8th 2008 at 6:08 am EDT
I think you're right about us coming to a lot of similar conclusions and viewing this from a global perspective.
Excellent point about the old and the new! I agree completely. Revolutions in the past haven't worked because they often throw the baby out with the bath water.
Yes and I totally agree with you that all have a part to play if they will step up to the plate and play it. I didn't mean to marginalize anyone by my comments.
This is a transitional candidate and a transitional campaign....how to blend the best of the old and move forward on to the new? Something for me to reflect on today as I get out and about on this fine sunny day in the UK! Helping each element to take its place is extraodinarily difficult and as you say, more so, if you're one more used to being a leader rather than in a supporting role. Point very well taken!
Thanks ObamaWill for hearing me out and affirming/confirming some of my observations.
I really respect your perspective. Thanks!!!!
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ObamaWill
Jun 8th 2008 at 6:17 am EDT
Nanci, there have actually been no successful revolutions in the history of the planet. Fortunitely I do not feel that we are witnessing a revolution from Obama. In every revolution there is a very rapid shit that highjacks the original ideals to establish a new version of the status quo with a new set of elte benefitting from it.
Luckily, I feel we have an evolution instead. This is based on a shift in the driver. It is more fundamental to the ability of an idividual to getting themselves heard than anything else. Obama has recognised this and nothing can be the same again.
It does not mean that the old will disappear and indeed the old is filled will great value. However, the influence for change is no coming from a different point of reference. It comes from ALL Americans..... Obama will be presendt to take it through
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Karen Who Loves the Way Obama Loves All Americans
Jun 8th 2008 at 6:28 am EDT
Yes. Evolution. Obama's vision reflects an evolution in many Americans and others in our thinking and doing. I agree.
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Nanci A patriotic dissident
Jun 8th 2008 at 6:35 am EDT
True w/respect to revolutions and I take your point that this is an evolution not a revolution. I feel the same way. I do think it's a quantum step though from what was into some new expression of what will be! :-)
Good point of clarification though. Thanks.
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ObamaWill
Jun 8th 2008 at 6:38 am EDT
Nanci, you should go into politics....
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!st time in 2nd District - Omaha for Obama
Jun 8th 2008 at 6:03 am EDT
This is an excellent post and comes close to supporting a lot of peoples sentiments. Many in my neighborhood are concerned that Barack will maintain his real change agenda, and not pander to anyone. His new politics brought many Republicans and Independents into his fold. We are praying that does not change.
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ObamaWill
Jun 8th 2008 at 6:08 am EDT
The ndirection and energy for this must come from us.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 5:23 am EDT
Dear Obama supporters:
Obama told HQ's on Friday: WE MUST WIN!!!
He's right, WE MUST WIN!!!
There can be no doubt about which states will stay blue or turn red in November.
WE MUST WIN!!! The GOP is afraid. They know WE WILL WIN!!!
BUT FIRST, WE MUST HEAL. Hillary said a lot of nasty things that will be very difficult for us to forget. BUT WE MUST WIN!!!
I have commented about VP's I dont want for Obama. BUT I WANT TO WIN!!! And anything that will allow us to WIN, WE MUST SUPPORT!!!.
Obama has to make the final decision on who will be his VP. But his decision must be supported by ALL of us regardless of our feelings. WE WON THIS NOMINATION even through all of the mudslinging. Obama taught Hillary a powerful lesson: Good always overpowers bad. But NOW WE HAVE TO PUT ASIDE PERSONAL FEELINGS, AND WIN.
Let's forget about what happened in the past because...WE MUST WIN!!! This is not an option, this is not a choice, it is our destiny. WE MUST WIN!!!
And however resistant we are to any of his decisions, it will be the decision that allows us to be stronger in November, and it will be the decision that will all US TO WIN AND TAKE BACK OUR COUNTRY!!!
WE MUST WIN!!! WE HAVE TO WIN!!! WE WILL WIN!!!
GO OBAMA 08!!!
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Zach from West Memphis, AR
Jun 8th 2008 at 6:54 am EDT
Personally I think Obama has his work already cut out for him. I think he will beat McBoring by a landslide, I truly do. He is the most appealing political figure I have seen since JFK and MLK. McCain offers nothing really. I can't even wait for November!! When I watch Obama speak, I always think to myself that I wish I had a job where he was my boss. He is so down to earth and in touch with people. Truly an intelligent and inspiring individual.
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Dorothy from White Salmon, WA
Jun 8th 2008 at 7:49 am EDT
MLK wasn't a political figure. He held no political office. He was a civil rights leader. Hillary was right- it took the help of a president to pass the civil rights legislation. And yes, Obama is an inspirational speaker like JFK, but his experience level is way below JFK's 14 years in the House and Senate. Obama still doesn't know some of the very basics most US Senators know about federal problems in the various states. Obama voted 3 times on Hanford funding and doesn't even know what Hanford is when asked???? If you are favoring nuclear power, I would think you would want to know what happens to nuclear waste. It appears to me that it is like a kid skipping from the 1st grade to the 6th grade without learning all the subjects taught in between.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 10:36 am EDT
You don't attain the position of President of the Harvard Law Review by being a "kid" who hasn't learned any subjects. A little bitter this morning, Dorothy? Please tell us a little bit about yourself Dorothy and what your purpose is for coming here this morning. You obviously don't sound like an Obama supporter, so please enlighten us. Who is your candidate and why should we listen to you or them?
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TstormLortonVA "Health Care Reform Now!:
Jun 8th 2008 at 12:56 pm EDT
Dorothy,
With the all the experience of Cheney, McCain and Hillary, they didn't have the good judgement to read the intelligent reports (which Hillary didn't do) and vote against the war.
I understand that many of you are still hurting and I want to give you the time and space that you need. But Hillary said in her speech that it would be a waste of time and a MISTAKE not to support the Democratic nominee. 80% of the country is saying that we are on the wrong track. We can not stay in Iraq FOREVER. No true Democrat could seriously vote for McCain.
May God bless you, Hillary and America.
One love, one party.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 5:26 am EDT
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Senator Barack Obama’s general election plan calls for broadening the electoral map by challenging Senator John McCain in typically Republican states — from North Carolina to Missouri to Montana — as Mr. Obama seeks to take advantage of voter turnout operations built in nearly 50 states in the long Democratic nomination battle, aides said......
To counter persistent rumors and mischaracterizations about his background, Mr. Obama’s advisers said they would also begin using television advertising and speeches in a biographical campaign to present his story on his terms. But they suggested that their research had found that voters were not that well acquainted with Mr. McCain, either, signaling that the next few months will see a scramble by the two campaigns to define the rival candidate.....
Mr. Obama’s aides said some states where they intend to campaign — like Georgia, Missouri, Montana and North Carolina — might ultimately be too red to turn blue. But the result of making an effort there could force Mr. McCain to spend money or send him to campaign in what should be safe ground, rather than using those resources in states like Ohio.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 5:34 am EDT
Talking with and showing how the Democrats can better represent ALL Americans will be the strength of Obama's campaign. It is why he will be the next President..
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Jun 8th 2008 at 6:40 am EDT
Yes, the "50-State Strategy" will do it!
Small States/Big States will ALL have their say. "Every Vote Counts", and that's exactly why BARACK OBAMA is the Democratic Presumptive Nominee for President.
It's called INCLUSIVE!
And, that's one of the upsides to a very long Primary campaign. There's campaign teams out there across the nation "FIRED UP, ... And, READY TO GO!
BARACK OBAMA 44TH PRESIDENT OF THE "UNITED STATES" OF AMERICA!!!
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Jun 8th 2008 at 5:29 am EDT
I have a few questions?
1. is their a user guide for this sie
2. how long does it take for your group to get reviwed and approved
3. is their a way to find your posts on a thread (seem to lose my posts)
4.roflmao any one want to be my friend :)
5. a serious question
i am currently registured in tx i moved to tn a little over a year ago but havent registured their yet (never swapped over my drivers liscense) should i stay and vote in tx or reg to vote in tn?
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Jun 8th 2008 at 5:36 am EDT
If you want to create a profile, and I would suggest that you do, just go the welcome to BarackObama home page and follow directions on setting up your author name, profile, etc. No one has to wait to be approved .; just follow those initial simple instructions. do that first then let us know how you did!
Oh yes, hit ctrlf to get to your post; refresh often; we have a game here, if you are first on the post, you contribute to the people who come after you ( to the FR page, that is). It's not mandatory, but it id a fun game we all play.
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!st time in 2nd District - Omaha for Obama
Jun 8th 2008 at 5:39 am EDT
You can make Friend Requests only after you have set up your profile. As to voting and where, you need to contact your local voter registration office and inquire.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 5:39 am EDT
The site is huge and there is much to read and view. Just take your time and roam.
Set one up and off you go.
If nothing else use F2 and the find command.
Everyone is your friend here and you are always welcome.
I would be extremely analytical here and do it where it is most likely to make a difference.
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roper
Jun 8th 2008 at 5:48 am EDT
i thought i had created a profile my first day here guess ill have to retry to make it
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!st time in 2nd District - Omaha for Obama
Jun 8th 2008 at 5:52 am EDT
Let us know if you have problems..we'll see if we can help you.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 7:40 am EDT
I can see your profile so that's all set up and ready to go.
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Benjamin Vos, Nashville
Jun 8th 2008 at 5:47 am EDT
No user guide. It's out there somewhere but it would be in someone's personal blog. I'm happy to speak with you about it, though, just send me a friend request.
If you try to create a group, the campaign HQ reviews and approves it. It takes usually up to a week, though it might take a little longer since the campaign is taking a little break to gear up and retool.
to find a post, I usually just do "CTRL + F" and find a word that is in the post. No other easy way to do it.
I live in TN. I think TN will be in play, but not as close as TX. I'd organize with TN (again, send a friend request).
http://www.tndp.org
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!st time in 2nd District - Omaha for Obama
Jun 8th 2008 at 5:55 am EDT
oops sorry I did not realize David was talking about setting up a Group...thanks for intervening, Ben.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 5:34 am EDT
rush is reporting he has a surprise for october
he claims to have a dvd of michelle saying racist comments against whites in a church fundraiser she spoke at. any truth to it
if its out there we need to release it now with a bio on her for damage control if its real
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!st time in 2nd District - Omaha for Obama
Jun 8th 2008 at 5:37 am EDT
This has been gone over til we are blue in the face. debunked
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Jun 8th 2008 at 5:40 am EDT
don't be silly and don't spread any rumours which don't have any foundation. If you do so , you will help McCain and Bush.
enemies of Obama will try anything to to manipulate and destroy our Movement.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 5:45 am EDT
it was all over sirous left 142 on friday and have herd rush clips talking about wasnt trying to promote anything only my second day to the web figured this was a safe place to ask
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!st time in 2nd District - Omaha for Obama
Jun 8th 2008 at 5:51 am EDT
This is a safe place to ask, David. You will hear a lot of things from Rush, Hannity and the like. You can listen to them or not. This story, however, has been promoted for quite some time now, and it simply has no legs.
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Scott from Australia
Jun 8th 2008 at 5:53 am EDT
cheers roper, just the politics of fear mate - don't let it control you - believe none of what you hear and only half of what you see... Welcome to the site!
Regards Scott
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Deniz-Amin
Jun 8th 2008 at 5:55 am EDT
..and you got a safe answer . nobody tries to censor what you want to say. we are free to speak out , but we are in a fight .please only report things you know they can be a threat to our campain.But don't report a claim that could be true in October. I have been seeing a tendency to target Obama's family. our enemies are first trying to spread rumors and let them be said from "mouth to mouth ".After thousands of people talk about that , they give out a dvd and suddenly you will see that all media report about that.
we have to make sure not to contribute to their plan.
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roper
Jun 8th 2008 at 6:01 am EDT
it was all over sirous left 142 on friday and have herd rush clips talking about wasnt trying to promote anything only my second day to the web figured this was a safe place to ask
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Jun 8th 2008 at 7:44 am EDT
People using this rumor are hoping that even without it being true that it will strike up racial tensions and incite problems. If it was true, we'd have seen it by now. There's no way that something like this would be only in the possession of Rush or held back until October.
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ObamaWill
Jun 8th 2008 at 5:46 am EDT
The rumour is the for of racism. The fact you spread it means that you do what is needed to give it life.
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roper
Jun 8th 2008 at 5:57 am EDT
that wasnt my intention i voted for Obama in tx been a supporter since the beggining (even convinced my parents to donate to his campain)
However the rumor is out thier not that i belive it will go anywhere but when it makes 3 left shows on the radio and they have no awnsers to the question. Id rather ask that put my head in the sand like i said earlier im sorry only been here 2 days didnt know it had been discussed. I am sure i am not the only new person here. mabey the only one dumb enough to ask the question.
again im sorry for bringing it up
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Deniz-Amin
Jun 8th 2008 at 6:03 am EDT
don't worry .your message has a good point : we have learnt to be more awake. the reactions to your message shows that we won't leave our victory to chance.we have to fight for it. Millimeter to Milimeter.
we are here to learn . I learnt from you today.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 6:06 am EDT
It is this very dynamic that makes rumours so hard to play.
Essentially I ignore any that are not present with facts. Here I mean written or other sort of media. Then I set about trying to show that the media is not true. If along the way it is shown to be true then it is no longer a rumour and must be addressed. However, at no time do I talk of the rumour itself during the process.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 6:15 am EDT
I can agree with your merits of not talking about a rumor
however 4 years in the CORP. has taught me to face my fears, challanges, and formost confront any and all rumors
if the rumor is out there personally i think in family it should discussed so everyone can give a unified awnser when people who dont support our nominie gets awnsers that we can back with facts.
remeber the eneamy speaks with propaganda.
we defend with facts we attack with facts
telling a die hard republican or even one considering to vote for Obama it is just a lie or propoganda.
tell me hinestly how many times do they belive us when we hold numbers and facts
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Jun 8th 2008 at 6:26 am EDT
The problem we have with this issue is how can we best deal with it. I feel that everyone respects the nature of rumours and how recognising them just gives them energy. I also feel that confronting them is exactly what must be done and that was also a point of my post. To do this however we must get ammunition to either destry it or to turn in from a rumour into something that must be addressed.
Unfortunitely we are dealing with expert bullies who know the tactics to get these rumours out into the MSM. The Russian would say "What to do?" as if nothing can be done and I feel we can take a different route.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 6:07 am EDT
You weren't dumb for asking the question. Questions are welcomed by many bloggers. Right now, it is just an old story that Rush and Hannity keep trying to promote. They are what they are. Most here chose not to listen to them or give them any credibility.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 6:22 am EDT
The problem is i herd it on three sirious left 142 talk shows on friday. make it plain with mark something or other ed schults and i want to say mark thompson (not sure on the last name)
from their i went to sirous right and heard rush say it. my point was its making the left radio shows i cant stand hanity deal sorry for colmes and rush makes me want to puke and personally belive he should be brought up on charges for voter tampering and inciting a riot
sorry just my fealings
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Jun 8th 2008 at 6:34 am EDT
i guess the only way we could is find some one with the dvd that was sold from the church i probably could strain my memory banks to try to remember what cd i was told it was on want to say i herd it was on the best (church name) events
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Jun 8th 2008 at 7:42 am EDT
It's a false statement that they're putting out hoping that the threat is enough to scare people. It's the same old trash from the same idiot, drug-addicted gas bag that brought us "operation chaos".
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Jun 8th 2008 at 6:08 am EDT
In our own beginnings, we are formed out of the body's interior landscape. For a short while, our mothers' bodies are the boundaries and personal geography which are all that we know of the world. ... Once we no longer live beneath our mother's heart, it is the earth with which we form the same dependent relationship, relying ... on its cycles and elements, helpless without its protective embrace. Louise Erdrich
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Jun 8th 2008 at 6:08 am EDT
Love won't be tampered with, love won't go away. Push it to one side and it creeps to the other.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 6:09 am EDT
I was in love with the whole world and all that lived in its rainy arms.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 6:20 am EDT
In spite of everything I still believe that people are really good at heart. I simply can't build up my hopes on a foundation consisting of confusion, misery and death.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 6:25 am EDT
Me too. I have much hope.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 6:33 am EDT
When hopes merge mountains of faith rise…
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Jun 8th 2008 at 6:13 am EDT
Think I'm gonna puke. I went to the HRC website to see what the girls are saying. They are dead seriously NOT voting for Obama - At least not the 900 or so who blogged. They want to punish the DNC and they're all sobbing as if there mother just died. These diehards are planning to push this all the way to the Convention, and then if Hillary doesn't get her due, will vote in unison for McCain, since (supposedly) Obama treated the queen so unroyally. I expected Hillary's supporters to be disappointe, yes even broken-hearted, but they are
like an angry bunch of wild dogs. So, other than contributing to the GE and the usual ways we support Obama, what can we do about this. I take them pretty seriously, though have no respect for people who are willing to sell-out on their principles and reject Barack. I can honestly say that I would have held my nose and voted for Hillary if the tables had been turned. I am a true Democrat and very proud to be voting for the BEST candidate in my 56 yrs!! I've decided we have a lot of uneducated weirdos in the good ol' USA.
I supported Obama for the IL Senate and NOTHING will ever change my mind about his intelligence and fantastic ability to lead our nation. What's wrong with these people????
Go, Barack, Go, Go, Mr. President!!
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Aleka from Japan
Jun 8th 2008 at 6:27 am EDT
Good Morning Obama family
It is good evening here in Japan
Just want to say helloooo... and What is up there
Clinton did the right thing today
Hopefully her supportor will follow her if they realy were supporting her
BEST WISH TO ALL
YES WE CAN
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Dorothy from White Salmon, WA
Jun 8th 2008 at 6:45 am EDT
Maybe you need to take a look at some of these posts by Obama supporters and it will become a little bit clearer for you as to why some Hillary supporters are not being sold on Obama. And, to win my vote, I want to hear an apology from Obama to Hillary and Bill for his injecting race into the campaign. And, there is no argument there. Anyone with common sense can figure out who had the black vote and who needed it. I also want to know why the word "fairytale" is a racially sensitive word.
Here are a few of your arrogant posters remarks in their own "educated" misspelled words:
ZZWHALE wrote: “Flush the Clintoons ……. political stench……. hopefully never to be seen or heard from again….”
Desert Wolf wrote: “You guys just don’t get it. It’s not that Hitlary is a woman we don’t like her. She is not a person on integrity and just as sleazy, if not worse, than most of the male politicians you are taking pot shots at. Let’s see, many do recall Dick Nixon with a lot of favor. Guess what? Hitlary is Dick Nixon in women’s underwear, and pleanty of experience dealing with deviance…”
terry campagna wrote: “Obama needs to pick his own vp, and it is not the nasty hillary. He needs someone to work with, she would only try to sabotage anything he is doing…Hillary should go crawl under some rock, just like the snake she is…Hillary is not going to tell us anything, and whatever she says is about her, the ego driven liar that she is.”
Bill wrote: “I rarely agree with Mr. Kennedy but this time he is right on…Are we all dummies that we bend every which way the politicians wish us to. The Clintons were counting on all to be forgotten after they used very dirty trick at their disposal against their opponent. Enough!! Send them and their dirt back to the pig farms of Arkansas.”
George wrote:” I can’t believe all the racist comments coming from the mouths of Bill and Hillary Clinton…”
devon wrote: “I for one will never vote for Obama if Hillary is on the ticket..the futher from the Clinton’s the better for the country…”
Mickey wrote: “Obama does not need Hill–Hill is turning out to be the Effie White of the democratic party…”
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Scott from Australia
Jun 8th 2008 at 7:08 am EDT
like i said before Dorothy, there are 100 positive posts here for every negative one...and how do you know it's not GOP infiltrators stirring up the pot...it could just be that you are one because I thought today that Hillary asked her supporters to get behind Barack and fight for what she is fighting for...no??
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Jun 8th 2008 at 9:39 am EDT
I believe it was Geraldine Ferraro who injected race into this. Everytime I turned around it seemed like Barack and his supporters (us) were being blamed for everything that Clinton or her supporters said - they turned everything around and blamed up for their comments.
As a woman I didn't vote for Clinton because I do not think she is the better candidate. I didn't vote for her because she is a woman..... I'm a woman so I am not sexist. I didn't vote for her because of her nasty negativity. Because she felt it was hers - she deserved it and that totally turned me off.
I don't think Obama or his supporters owe any apology to Clinton. Even when she was throwing the kitchen sink at him - he was gracious, polite. He held back - probably because he is a gracious man and his whole manner is positive. I can't say how many times I, as middle-aged woman wanted to say some choice words to Hillary. So this expectation of an apology just shows how you guys who are still angry have to go. Its sad.
I thought Hillary's speech yesterday was 95% awesome. And I know partly there is a healing process to undergo. If Hillary is willing to do that, I would hope her supporters would follow her lead and do the same... What is MOST important here is unifying and making sure McBush 3 doesn't get into the White House or there will be a lot more we need to worry about in this country than an apology.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 9:40 am EDT
Correction: 1st Paragraph - blamed US (not up)
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Jun 8th 2008 at 8:54 am EDT
Do you care to share a link to when Obama injected race into this campaign? I have yet to see that. Also, please review the statistics for who had the black vote at the beginning of this campaign. I'll just tell you, it was Hillary Clinton. Fairytales is not racially insensitive. It was wrong to suggest that this campaign was some type of fariytale. HRC is not the nominee b/c she did not take Obama's candidacy seriously. By thinking it was a fairytale that would be over on Super Tuesday, was probably one of the worst mistakes she could have made.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 10:50 am EDT
Okay, Dorothy or Rush or Sean or whoever you are this morning. It's very easy to go to either Hillary's or Barack's website, pose as a supporter, leave some derogatory or inflammatory post, and then hope everybody fights amongst themselves. Boy, you're really working it this morning, aren't you? I hope they're paying you enough to act like a total jacka$$, bacause that is exactly what you sound like.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 6:27 am EDT
Hey Kris - you can't force people, and personally I think it would be better to embrace those that have made the transition rather than getting upset with those who haven't. My only other thought is that if you are checking out their site, then they are likely checking out ours and if they see you likening them to a bunch of wild dogs, and calling them uneducated wierdo's, and condescendingly therming her the Queen (if that's what you were doing) then there's every chance they and their friends who are ready to change over won't be doing that anytime soon. Just my thoughts...plenty to be happy about today and plenty of reasons to sing the praises of Senator Clinton for her endorsement towards a more perfect union.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 6:30 am EDT
PS And then again maybe they are mostly GOP infiltrators stirring up trouble to get people upset...
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Angela from Shermans Dale, PA
Jun 8th 2008 at 6:28 am EDT
Let them vote for mccain, then they will get what they deserve, the high court making women rights harder, the right to chose going bye bye, I would not worry about that small % of women that will do that, most of those liberal women will vote democratic, we nedd to be more worried about the white men, they would be more likley to vote for mccain, that's why barrack needs to pick a white man for VP.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 6:34 am EDT
Those that continue to say that they will not vote for Obama or will sit it out, are in the minority. Though I would love to see them "come home," it will take some time for some. For others, they may never come around. We can not allow ourselves to be consumed by the few that persist in "holding out for what might have been," as even HRC put it.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 6:43 am EDT
This is only what is to be expected from certain aspects Clinton's suspension speech. If Clinton is true to her endorsement part of the speech then she will bring them through
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Jun 8th 2008 at 6:47 am EDT
Kristine, I suspect there are a lot of people who will not vote for Obama because they are disillusioned for one reason or another. I think it's absurd, too, especially since it says to me they really don't know much about the issues that are at stake. But that is their right and they will eventually either vote for or against McCain for their own personal reasons.
But I think we must seriously consider the possibility that at least a few of the louder mouths could very well be Operation Chaos operatives - plants to disrupt the nomination process. I would not put it past the dirty little tricks of the Republicans to continue trying to get Senator Clinton on the ticket so they can blast away with their perpetual attacks as they did all through the 90s. Those of us who lived through the Nixon re-election remember well how fetid and underhanded these creeps can be. And they've had decades since then to come up with nastier schemes than they pulled in the 70s.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 7:06 am EDT
Those supporters are just sore loosers! I hope nobody pays attention to them anymore. Their candidate lost and that's it. We can't have two number one's! There is only one number 1 and if they can't understand that well...than it's their problem! Not Obama's.
I bet they will not vote at all.
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A shameless hopemonger... and an unabashed truthmonger
Jun 8th 2008 at 10:39 am EDT
Even if we think they are sore losers, that is no reason for us to be sore winners. Calling people names, attacking their intelligence, attacking a candidate they believed in passionately or disnmissing their very real anger is not helpful.
I encourage everyone to watch Barack's speech to his headquarters staff and appreciate why we are fighting for him to be president ... and why we need to be encouraging and welcoming (and kind) to others who are not sure they want to support him, including Hillary supporters.
Barack has now been given a significant task - and it's not just about winning an election. It is about changing the direction of this country, It is about keeeping promises to parents who cannot afford health insurance for themselves and their children; to soldiers who have lost friends, limbs and their emotional well being in Iraq; to people who have lost their jobs and are struggling to stay afloat; to people who can't afford the gas to look for a new job; and to children who are failing in schools that don't help them live up to their potential.
This is not some spitting contest. The choices that we make this election have real consequences for real people's lives. It is bigger than us. And in light of all that is at stake, personal attacks and name calling do us all a disservice.
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Lorraine
Jun 8th 2008 at 10:46 am EDT
When it comes to voting in the fall, I believe that most Americans will vote for what is right for their country and their families.
I don't know of many people who will vote for McCain or tke other actions to assure he wins because they preferred another candidate and allow more Americans to die in Iraq for the next 4-8 years, more americans to die without health insrance, more children to be denied an adequate education and more seniors to be written off...........
People of conscience and caring know that another four to eight years of McCain following Bush will mean the loss of a whole generation of Americans.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 6:26 am EDT
I just saw the clownish video of the Fox News commentator who called Michelle and Barack's little victory gesture a "terrorist fist jab." I would like to propose that all Obama supporters who see each other on the street (you can tell us from our glazed lemming eyes) should, from this moment on, greet each other with a fist jab and and a thumbs-up, a la Michelle.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 6:28 am EDT
If Barack Obama wants my vote, he is going to have to 1) apologize to Hillary and Bill Clinton for injecting race into the campaign and pointing the finger at them. He might also explain exactly why the word "fairytale" is considered a racially sensitive word. 2) He needs to apologize to Hillary for his campaigns behavior over the Bobby Kennedy remark Hillary made when she was just providing a timeline and it was quite obvious. After all if it were any "assassination" suggestion, CNN is guilty as well for running a 1 hour special on the Anniversary of Bobby Kennedy's Assassination.
And, then there are the nasty comments from people on blogs. Here are some of the nasty remarks from the arrogant Obama supporters. Obama's changes need to include cleaning up the nasty posts from his supporters.
Kyle wrote: “…I truly belive some Hillay supporters are delusional!
They eager for her to be president because they got involved in her hungry for power campaign! Any democrat who would choose Mccain over Hillary or Obama should be banned from the party!“
slister wrote: “I am for Obama, but Hillary for VP - NOT! I can’t stand her. For those that say you won’t [vote] for Obama, do you think it will matter? He has the majority without you. By the way, you weren’t going to vote for him anyway, so your vote is insignificant. Obama will have enough support to win the presidential election - then what? If you don’t like it - move!“
M2D5 wrote: “Obama, is smart enough to know how hard the general election campaign is going to be. He does not need an albatross from N.Y. tied around his neck. He needs someone who will work at uniting the party behind the ticket not some one who has been bent on wrecking the party if her ambitions were not realized. Also think of the cost to the treasury Dept. All those extra agents to protect POTUS. I do not want the honorable(?) senator from N.Y., evan remotely near the ‘line of succession.’”
snake63 wrote: “I agree with Ted Kennedy. If Hillary becomes Obama’s V.P. She will have Barack assassinated Jan 21. This way she can serve three terms.”
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Jun 8th 2008 at 6:38 am EDT
Dorothy, there are enough stupid comments on both the Clinton's and the Obama blog to go around. If you withhold your vote because some idiot gave an idiotic opinion, it serves no one but the people on the Right who wish to perpetuate this heinous war and dismantle everything that Senator Clinton has worked so hard for all these years by loading up the supreme court with misogynistic bigots. No one that I know of is asking for Senator Clinton to silence that woman from New York who was all over the TV the other day, ranting about an inadequate black male. Sometimes you have to tune out the nonsense and seek the higher good. And that is to reclaim our government for all of us, women, children, men, black, white, etc.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 2:27 pm EDT
Welcome Dorothy, but Hillary and Barack have both apologized and have moved on. You need to also. It is truly time for the bitterness to end. Barack worked just as hard as Hillary during this campaign and we will not condemn him for his hard fight just as you do not want us to condemn Hillary. It is Sunday, a new week, and a new day...Halleleujah.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 6:42 am EDT
Hi Dorothy,
For every one negative comment here you will find 100 others either praising Hillary for her speech today or putting forward positive posts about Hillary and womanhood in general. You need to rise above the mud-slinging, take the higher ground and put forth your issues in a respectful and less-demanding manner, not in the negative, aggressive and somewhat hateful manner similar to the other posters you yourself criticised.
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Scott from Australia
Jun 8th 2008 at 6:46 am EDT
Oh and not sure if this is your one and only post or not but either way, welcome!
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Jun 8th 2008 at 6:43 am EDT
Good morning Dorothy! Thank you so much for spending the time here at the Obama website. I understand that there are bruised feelings between Hillary and Obama supporters. Obama can't be held accountable to what his supporters say on the blogs just as Hillary can't be held responsible for the equally hurtful things people have said about Obama on her blog. I hope that you will consider that. In terms of the Kennedy comment, it was more the media that made a huge deal out of it. As an ardent Obama supporter, I also thought that she was just referring the timeline. Every word that either Hillary and Obama uttered during the campaign were interpreted and analyzed to death. People have done the same thing to Obama as well with his comments too. In terms of race, I believe that both campaigns have pointed fingers at each other about that.
Bottom line is Dorothy, I hope that you will consider what Hillary said in her wonderful speech. She said somewhere along the lines of.. if you are thinking about the should haves, could haves, don't go there. I agree with her. Let's let the bygones be bygones. No one can force you to vote for anyone. I hope that you will just consider the polices that Obama is proposing, and judge him from that. And please don't let the media make you into thinking one thing or another about Obama.
Thank you again for taking the time to write us.
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Dawn from Iowa
Jun 8th 2008 at 6:44 am EDT
Oh please lady!! Grow up!!!
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Jun 8th 2008 at 6:44 am EDT
Dorthy i will apologise for rude and incensive comments made in the past welcome. fealings are hard on both sides. I personally think i will take time for some hillary supporters ans Obama supporters to make peace with each other. also their will always be rep trolls spicing things up which seems a bit like snakes comment might be one dont know i new here too. but please give us a chance
for me i am still working through my dislike for things hilliary said and her supports have said but since i belive in unity i will look forward from this point and will apologise to everything u asked for.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 6:45 am EDT
Dorothy!
Enough of any demands to anybody from here on out!
Because I can provide a list longer than the campaign of needed apologies from your end of the game.
Give it up! You are trying to keep the wounds from healing and frankly you will get my blood boiling and I will need to refresh your memory. We weren't even allowed to blog over there, so now your here, can it! And just read Learn Issues Action People, etc from the top of the blog and do your homework as we here all have and then come back and listen for a while.
Happy Day and Morning!
Paz
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Dawn from Iowa
Jun 8th 2008 at 6:54 am EDT
That's right!!
Her site censored everything!!!!
Its time to move on.....Do you really want McCain to win!? Then tell that to all the families who still have loved ones fighting, who may never come home!!!
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Cheryl from Boston Feels the Gift
Jun 8th 2008 at 7:00 am EDT
As well, enough of the placating and petting! Just how is that we are now to spend all of our time fighting McCain if we have pet egos continuously. We all suffered. I gritted my teeth and lost tons of sleep over some horrific things that went on and now no one from the HRC has even once tried to stroke my sore nerves! Please if we are not to Re-Hash or berate anymore, then I ask that we not walk on eggs shells anymore either and constantly preen obvious passive aggressive behavior of those wanting attention and lording and begrudging favor unless we pet, pet, pet.
Get on board and do your homework and get ready to work in this campaign. Get ready to pay for the bills and fundraise and donate as we don't leave behind huge debts. Get ready to study up and make those phone calls. Get ready to be in the field.
Get ready to hang together.
Everytime I find demands to woo, I will tell it like it is. I am not going to pet and I hope many of us here just send our new team members to study up and get ready. It was a long campaign on both sides and both sides got hurt feelings. And no one has been petting us.
Start offering up some good ways of beating McCain.
So Get ready to hang together.
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Dorothy from White Salmon, WA
Jun 8th 2008 at 7:26 am EDT
At least McCain has had a son fighting in Iraq. To be quite honest, I'm not too hype on someone who wants to cut out our missile defense program at a time when China is building up theirs. I think too much inexperience can take away our security. And by the way, I don't care about supreme court appointments...I fought for Roe v Wade. It is now time for the younger generation to either defend it or lose it.
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Cheryl from Boston Feels the Gift
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:05 am EDT
Dorothy,
Go.
Vote for McCain.
You waste everyone's energy here and obviously you are not a Hillary peep but from Recreate68. aka Operation Chaos.
Beat it! You most assuredly never did cast a vot in your life and never will!
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A shameless hopemonger... and an unabashed truthmonger
Jun 8th 2008 at 10:51 am EDT
Even if we think Hillary supporters are sore losers, or maybe trolls (though we have no evidence that they are), that is no reason for us to be sore winners. Calling people names, attacking their intelligence, attacking a candidate they believed in passionately or dismissing their very real anger is not helpful.
I encourage everyone to watch Barack's speech to his headquarters staff and appreciate why we are fighting for him to be president ... and why we need to be encouraging and welcoming (and kind) to others who are not sure they want to support him, including Hillary supporters.
Barack has now been given a significant task - and it's not just about winning an election. It is about changing the direction of this country, It is about keeping promises to parents who cannot afford health insurance for themselves and their children; to soldiers who have lost friends, limbs and their emotional well being in Iraq; to people who have lost their jobs and are struggling to stay afloat; to people who can't afford the gas to look for a new job; and to children who are failing in schools that don't help them live up to their potential.
This is not some spitting contest!! The choices that we make this election have real consequences for real people's lives. It is bigger than us. And we have to spread that message. In light of all that is at stake, personal attacks and name calling do us all a disservice.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 9:21 am EDT
Amen!!!!!
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Jun 8th 2008 at 6:46 am EDT
Dorothy, the remarks from both sides have been ugly. For someone to apologize would mean that they would first have to believe that they did something wrong. One event can be perceived in so many different ways. You believe for instance that the comments regarding the "assasination" were for referencing a timeframe. Others did not perceive it that way. It doesnt make us "sexist" or "racist". It makes us "human". And as such we are prone to our own opinions and our own views. I'm glad that you've taken your time to come over to this site. I hope you do not decide to vote for McCain or worse yet, not vote at all however whatever your decision is, be prepared to live with it.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 6:54 am EDT
Hypocrit? I feel it's important to treat others the way you want to be treated, apologies included.
I would like an apology from the Clintons for the following reasons:
Misquoting Obama by saying "Obama “said President Reagan was the engine of innovation and did more, had a more lasting impact on America than I did. And then the next day he said, 'In the 90s the good ideas came out from the Republicans.' Which it'll be costly maybe down the road for him because it's factually not accurate.”
the acutal quote was ""Reagan changed the trajectory of America in a way that Richard Nixon did not and in a way that Bill Clinton did not. He put us on a fundamentally different path because the country was ready for it."
An apology for putting race into the election "Jesse Jackson won South Carolina in '84 and '88. Jackson ran a good campaign. And Obama ran a good campaign here."
An apology for calling our dreams and our beliefs a "fairy tale" not our race.
An apology from Clinton for using Bobby Kennedy as an example in the same time Ted Kennedy was admitted to the hospital for cancer. Insensitive much?
An apology for talking to Obama in such a belitting way, "Shame on you" when she had done no better herself.
An apology for saying Obama only had a speech, even though he's spent years of his life serving the common man even though he wasn't in "washington"
An apology for lying about Bosina, several times.
Oh, but I don't ask an apology from bloggers that have bombarded with their rude remarks about Obama. Why? because everyone is entitled to their own opinion and belief.
I could go on and on but I won't. I won't because you should see clearly that both sides have reasons they feel their candidate was treated wrongly. If you vote for Obama it shouldn't be because you got an apology. It should be because you care about your right to choose, and universal heath care for your children. You want a safer America that isn't driven by fear but by sound judgment. If you vote for Mccain out of spite, then you never believed in Hilary Clinton's views to begin with.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 9:22 am EDT
Amen!!!
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Jun 8th 2008 at 6:55 am EDT
Your comments are meant to be divisive. They will speak for themselves. Also I think, many of us have made it clear to former HRC supporters coming to MyBo for the 1st time that while they may find some harsh comments in past blogs, such remarks were Said in the context of a tough campaign and should be put behind us. When Senator Clinton came out with that amazing speech, many of us who were once harsh on the Senator (myself included), set aside whatever beef we had with her and wrote nothing but praises.
We all recognize that Hillary was a strong candidate. For all her imperfections and shortcomings, she has done many great things as well. But if you wish to destroy everything that she has fought for, then feel free to campaign for John McCain. He will gladly give you 100 years in Iraq and health care for the rich and wealthy only. He thinks it's normal for people to "work a second job" and "[skip] a vacation". Most of all, he will offer you a third Bush term. If you want 4 more years of pain and suffering, John McCain is your man.
Or you can choose to continue Hillary's fight by joining our campaign.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 7:02 am EDT
Guys (Obamanites!)
Please give it up. Leave Dorothy alone. She along with other supporters of Hillary are upset, and disappointed. I think the best thing to do is to always, always treat people with respect and kindness, even if they sound angry. Just try to explain to her how there might be a different way of seeing things. She can either agree or disagree. But it is not necessary for us to become boiled up over this. Their feelings are still hurt. Let them say what they want to say. But we must alwsys respond in a positive way, just as you can imagine how Obama would respond himself.
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Cheryl from Boston Feels the Gift
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:10 am EDT
Dorothy is not from Clinton but from Recreate 68!
And stop petting!
Tell everyone to study up and get to work!
Enough of this coddling! We won because we raised money and phoned and worked and we were successful because we did our homework.
Remember we will be inundated by "Operation Chaos".
To Hillary now Barack supporters: It is a no-brainer, Beat McCain. No more petting you. Time for you to get to work, enough time suspended.
GO to the top of the blog and do your homework so you will come to understand what you didn't before.
Kiss Kiss
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Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus!
Jun 8th 2008 at 9:24 am EDT
Well you Obama supporters are upset also!
Folks I will say again let's get real here.
We are letting Hillary supporters control the Obama supporters on this blog. Wake up folks!
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No longer in Berlin but still for Obama
Jun 8th 2008 at 7:14 am EDT
Greetings from Berlin--another warm beautiful day. It was a hard fought campaign with supporters on both sides going too far at times. I come from a family 11 siblings and believe me things have been said that leave one or another of us swearing never to say another word to a particular sibling issuing perceived slight or worse. But we always make up, realizing that in the end we are family. Senator Clinton and Obama have said as much. We can spend our time rehearsing who said what when or we can come together and beat McCain in the fall. Nietzsche once used the term "active forgetting" to characterize an attitude that allowed for everyone to have a better future. Welcome Dorothy. I hope that as you get to know us and, more importantly, Obama, you will be able to case a vote for him in November. And for the record, there are things said on these blogs that I don't agree with, even cause me to cringe. But on the whole we are good bunch and have interesting, important discussions. I am looking forward to your views and input as we go forward.
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Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus!
Jun 8th 2008 at 9:26 am EDT
Thanks for bringing the truth!
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RTV in St. Paul. This election is for JFK, MLK, and RFK. Bring it home.
Jun 8th 2008 at 7:37 am EDT
Dorothy: I have a feeling were aren't in Kansas anymore.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 7:43 am EDT
Dorothy
Your here for a reason....stick around you may like it, and if you don't you can always leave
Welcome!
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Jun 8th 2008 at 7:51 am EDT
Wow, I don't even know where to begin with addressing this type of comment so I'll just say thanks for taking the time to post and have a good day.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 8:25 am EDT
Dorothy,
First of all, Barack has NEVER said or done ANYTHING against Hillary.
Second of all it, was the strategy of MARK PENN and Bill to put race into the campaign, along with arab religion, POTUS thresholds, assasination talk, kitchen sinks, and the like.
Join the family or stand back and watch the family win - it's your choice, but the blackmail crap is OVER.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 8:57 am EDT
Do you care to share a link to when Obama injected race into this campaign? I have yet to see that. Also, please review the statistics for who had the black vote at the beginning of this campaign. I'll just tell you, it was Hillary Clinton. Fairytales is not racially insensitive. It was wrong to suggest that this campaign was some type of fariytale. HRC is not the nominee b/c she did not take Obama's candidacy seriously. By thinking it was a fairytale that would be over on Super Tuesday, was probably one of the worst mistakes she could have made.
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Debbie for Obama/Biden Thank You Jesus!
Jun 8th 2008 at 9:19 am EDT
Get real!!!
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Jun 8th 2008 at 6:30 am EDT
Love & Light to All
Why we say NO to McCain:
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"NÖ" to 100 years' of continued warfare on all fronts of Life!!!
UNITED WE STAND: Enjoy-
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These videos are as relevant now as they were then.
Let's go with the fierce urgency of NOW to real *Peace *Prosperity *Progress - We cannot afford to delay, not even one nano second.
Yes We Can - Yes We Will
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Jun 8th 2008 at 7:06 am EDT
The "Fierce Urgency of Now" & Barack Obama is on it!
After 2 days with his family in Chicago, Monday he begins his Tour in North Carolina speaking about the ECONOMY.
With the unemployment figures UP 10%, announced closing of auto plants, the price of gas & the Stock Market of last week it's time to talk ECONOMY!
The gasoline crisis alone affects ALL COMMODITIES in the marketplace & especially the price of FOOD as it's transported to markets.
'NO DRAMA OBAMA', knows & grasps the REAL needs of Americans & will discuss SOLUTIONS!
Any wonder the ECONOMY is such a mess? Just look to the money that has been spent on the IRAQ WAR, an unnecessary PRE-EMPTIVE WAR!
Exactly how much money did the REPUBLICANS borrow from CHINA & SAUDI ARABIA to FUND the IRAQ WAR?
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Jun 8th 2008 at 7:27 am EDT
Do you know when and where he will be in NC? I saw him once in Charlotte - was on the front row and got to shake his hand twice. I would love to see him again.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 7:34 am EDT
Goodmorning 50-Year Old 'Whitey' Woman,
This is from a 57-Year Old 'Whitey Woman'.
Don't know where in North Carolina. Go to the home page, enter your postal code & it might come up with the answer for you.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 7:35 am EDT
Thanks!
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Jun 8th 2008 at 7:41 am EDT
I hope you won't think I'm hijacking this thread but it seems appropriate to put this comment here, because it's all about hope.
All you guys working your socks off to make this thing happen, are truly amazing. You inspire us to do the same in our own countries, to try and get accountable government and true representation. This is an inspirational movement and the world is watching!
Take a look at yourselves 8-]
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Jun 8th 2008 at 6:45 am EDT
Fariz khoobi!! I agree I think Barr will certianly draw some conservatives away from McCain.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 6:45 am EDT
All
The following para is from a great article in the Sunday Times by Andrew Sullivan. Thought it was worth posting:
"The world will also inevitably note in the person of a President Obama a moment in America’s own history. It will doubtless be surprised to see America confront its racial past so publicly. To watch a country you respect regain its bearings, to address one of its own deepest wounds in full view of the world, to do so after such a tumultuous, open and deeply American democratic process: this has already reminded many people around the world of what they love about America and what they have missed these past few years."
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Jun 8th 2008 at 6:54 am EDT
Thanks Karen for that beautiful paragraph from The Times. We will be sure to pass it on.
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Dorothy from White Salmon, WA
Jun 8th 2008 at 7:10 am EDT
It is quite sad though that America did show her true colors as far as her treatment of women. From the disgusting "Iron my Shirt" sign to the talk show pundits quips, America showed that she doesn't practice what she preaches. From the beginning of February, the MSM and Obama supporters began to ask when Hillary was going to get out of the race.
It is sad, but here is the truth: We've got a long way to go to equal rights for women. The double-pane glass ceiling still exists.
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Mary B. Call me sweety, call me old, just don't call me late for election day!
Jun 8th 2008 at 7:49 am EDT
Good Morning Dorothy,
I've been reading the night's posts for over an hour now. Being a white woman very close to Hillary's age I find I need to reply here.
Both Hillary and Obama had many obsticals to over come in this race. Hillary being a woman and Obama being African American. Both sides were slandered too often and hard. Both these great people are heroes in my book!
We have made much progress in equal rights for woman AND African Americans over the years.
The point of the matter is that we need to unite to continue fighting for equal rights for EVERYONE regardless of gender, race, and regligious affiliation!
THIS IS THE TRUTH of the MATTER!
United we stand, divided we will fall and lose all the ground we have all fought for seperately.
Hillary may have lost the nomination, BUT just think, beacuse she DID run to become the presidential nominee, when Obama becomes president he opens the door for ANY woman, of EVERY race to become president! Due to both Hillary and Obama the doors will be open for ALL Our children and grandchildren!
Love from an
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Jun 8th 2008 at 12:26 pm EDT
Dorothy,
Since that incident at the Hillary rally where a man in the crowd held a sign that said Iron My Shirt, I along with my mother and sister who are all for women rights, wondered if that man was planted there as a stratigic move on the campaign's part. There were so many moments in that campaign that were delibertly planned that this is one that seems really not far off. So I resent what you are saying about the mistreatment of Women in Hillary's Campaign. I do believe that the movement was not helping progress the issues that women have in this Country, but instead was helping the progress that was made regress, or go backwards. My mother has been a politican for 30 years, and she has broken many glass ceilings, but she did it with morals and integrity. She had a limit on what she would do to get elected as the First AA Member of the Board she presently sits on. She did it with morals when she became the First AA elected to the State Board of Eduacation, and she did it with morals when she was elected as the first AA elected President of the Board, and President of the State Board. So while she was making history in our State, City, she was also making history as a woman who was told by the white male establishment that she would never be elected to that board or any other board in the State that they had anything to do with. Well 30 years later she is still serving her State. So women like me think that the movement is better served when we bring our morals into the fight, integrity means a lot and we can't have it both ways.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 6:47 am EDT
We cannot continue to be angry at women who are more concerned with feminism than the good of the country. Obama represents all people. We MUST pivot back to the general election. We must end the war. We must become energy independent. We must have health care for all. Those are issues that all voters should care about. We began this movement with optimism and hard work and we cannot let hateful, bitter feminists kill our joy. We have to press on, make our case and let them decide if they will behave like children or like Democrats, but this is Obama time. We must get his story out. We must canvas. We must sign up new voters. We must donate. We have to win the White House. Let us continue to celebrate our historic victory and not get consumed by this bitterness. The media and the Republicans want Obama to lose and they will continue to drive this wegde. We must move on.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 10:57 am EDT
I tried to post this video on several blogs yesterday with hopes of getting Hillary supporters who are switching to McCain to see what he is really like. None of them got posted, not even on Hillary's site. It seems her site is still anti-Obama. If she was sincere in her speach, she should change things on her site. It should at least be less moderated so we can present the facts and try to unite.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 7:53 am EDT
feminism and the feminist agenda is what's good for this country. the one that would allow exclusion based on gender, or discrimination based on gender, is intolerable.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 6:53 am EDT
Hate is burnt love and when your heart is on fire beware the inferno…
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Jun 8th 2008 at 7:10 am EDT
Beware "unknown user":
1) We know that you are a plant trying to widen a perceived divide in the democratic party
2) Now that you see that we've come together, you, as a McCant supporter, are afraid.
3) Go buy yourself some Depends and some baby wipes for use between now and November, because we intend to take back the white house!
Obama '08
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Toshi
Jun 8th 2008 at 9:24 am EDT
thanks for ur advise...now, find a cliff and jump. peace.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 7:12 am EDT
Have a great day!!
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Robby from Louisiana who loves the Middle Name Hussein and Believe in Barack Obama
Jun 8th 2008 at 10:00 am EDT
To Unknown User:
Please don't come here with your tactics. I want you to know that we trust Hillary more than we trust you. You see Hillary is Hillary, but you are Unknown. Now, we know evil lurks in the hidden dark places and are scared to be identified. So go back in your dark hole because you are exactly what's wrong with the world. Barack is what's right. And by the way, we are the Democratic Party, and we fight damnit, we fight together and that includes Hillary and her supporters. Now take that back to McCaint and Rush.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 12:05 pm EDT
The Unknown Users making these comments are McCain supporters who are paid to create disunity among Democrats.
Please do not respond to their rhetoric.
Hillary courageously called for unity yesterday, stating firmly that we are family and that the stakes are too high to elect another Republican to the White House.
We applaud her strength for going on the record in support of Barack Obama.
We will take back the White House in 2009.
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Strong Heart
Jun 8th 2008 at 7:08 am EDT
Faith is a cool head with a warm heart...
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yesterdaygone : they said this day would never come
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:31 am EDT
how refreshing.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 7:09 am EDT
Here's my suggestion for this site. For every negative comment about Obama, or even Hillary, we can either respond with:
1) A Positive and kind explanation of why we don't agree
2) If the comment is so crazy or divisive, then don't even bother responding. But instead, write down reasons why we support Obama.
We do not want negativities in our blog. We are all about uplifting, inspiring, and being one.
Please consider my proposal guys! Let's be inspiring, as Obama himself would want us to be.
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No longer in Berlin but still for Obama
Jun 8th 2008 at 7:19 am EDT
I like this. As I said above, there are grievances on all sides and we can spend our time rehearsing them, or we can work together to get a Democratic President in the White House. Our young men and women in Iraq are counting on us, our unemployed citizens are counting on us, the earth itself is counting on us.
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Victoria in Virginia
Jun 8th 2008 at 7:22 am EDT
I'm choosing to ignore all negative comments...Senator Obama's campaign is based on positive change, let's follow his example!
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marytnurse, supporting Barack Obama until I see his library built on donations from We The People
Jun 8th 2008 at 7:40 am EDT
or post something silly....a response at all is a response to these folks, and it gets them what they want...attention. the professionals suggest IGNORE. DK has dealt very effectively with them by posting recipes. i have been posting a video of "don't worry be happy." but reacting to them? might as well engrave the invitation to come back.
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marytnurse, supporting Barack Obama until I see his library built on donations from We The People
Jun 8th 2008 at 9:37 am EDT
i love that one too!!!
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below, i posted some responses from the professional journals about trolls and how to deal with them. and it's ignoring them; unfortunately there are SO many new people here that responding seems to be second nature, and we need to at least post drivel.
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marytnurse, supporting Barack Obama until I see his library built on donations from We The People
Jun 8th 2008 at 9:41 am EDT
np!!
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Regina from Va Beach, VA " who is happy about change we all believe in!!!
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:03 am EDT
Hello Jeff,
Welcome aboard. Thanks for your unifying words. We will unite and win back our white house.
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MJ
Jun 8th 2008 at 9:52 am EDT
welcome Jeff. I was about to say I bet most will be fighting for time on the blog. Love my Obama family, but we have lots of room for new people.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 12:13 pm EDT
Way to go Jeff. No time to stand or sit around feeling crummy.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 1:51 pm EDT
Thanks Jeff! Great to know you've enthusiastically joined the Obama Team!! Warm Welcome!
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Jun 8th 2008 at 7:19 am EDT
It's going to be on at 8:00 a.m. Eastern Time today because of tennis or something! Website says:
"At a special early time of 8 am ET, we will devote the full hour to insights & analysis on the race for the White House with NBC's team of veteran political reporters: Ron Allen, Lee Cowan, David Gregory, Andrea Mitchell, Kelly O'Donnell, and Chuck Todd."
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Victoria in Virginia
Jun 8th 2008 at 7:24 am EDT
Thanks for the heads up!
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Jun 8th 2008 at 7:58 am EDT
Ah YEAH, the French Open final with Raphael Nadal VS Roger Federer!
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Jun 8th 2008 at 7:23 am EDT
Good Day everyone and God bless!!!
I want to first say I am glad are party is starting to unite and come together. I also wanted to remind everyone that we can't just work hard for Barack, we need to work hard for all Dems. running for congress, also. If we don't have enough Dems. in the house and Senate, Barack will not be able to accomplish much...So don't just work hard for Barack, but work hard for all Dems.....YES WE CAN!!
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Jun 8th 2008 at 7:31 am EDT
i'm with ya Cornell! working for one other campaign now, and just signed on to work with the county office yesterday to work for every democrat, to get them over the top in my precinct!!
and with our new voter laws, we are advocating absentee voting; now they HAVE to count them!! they never did before. now all we need to do is find a way to make them audit their daRNed machines.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 8:23 am EDT
Cornell from Harrisburg PA,
I concur;do you have a link or list of the people that are up for re-elect?
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marytnurse, supporting Barack Obama until I see his library built on donations from We The People
Jun 8th 2008 at 7:25 am EDT
Christopher knows us lunatics. thanks Christopher!!
sigh...went to bed early...and now awake early and i have to work tonight lol just how it goes.
MTP is an hour early today because of the tennis games. be sure to tune in early if you wanna catch it!!
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Kathleen O'Bamacan
Jun 8th 2008 at 7:50 am EDT
Thanks for the MTP scoop. DH is out of town fishing and I have sooooo looked forward to watching it without his heavy Republican sighs, groans and yelling at the television!!! I would have missed it and he would have been home by the tine the shown was on again!!!!!!
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marytnurse, supporting Barack Obama until I see his library built on donations from We The People
Jun 8th 2008 at 7:59 am EDT
whew!! punditry in peace!!
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Kathleen O'Bamacan
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:02 am EDT
Exactly ;O)
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Jun 8th 2008 at 7:29 am EDT
Election day is my Birthday, and I hope to raise a whole lot of money for Obama.
For every issue you strongly believe in, please donate $5
1) End the war in Iraq
2) End tax breaks for companies that send jobs overseas
3) Promote green technologies and fuel efficiency standards.
4) People run the campaign but not lobbyists & special interests
5) Universal Coverage for Health Care
6) Homeland security-No torture; no renditions; no operating out of fear
7) More Veteran benefits including healthcare, and education subsidies
8) Stopping Nuclear Terrorism
9) Stopping the Genocide in Darfur
10) Transparent Government
11) Increasing Federal College Loans, education reform, arts in education
12) Funding For The Arts
Please help me make this list very long. Please post and please donate for every issue you agree with. Here's the link to my Birthday Donations:
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Victoria in Virginia
Jun 8th 2008 at 7:31 am EDT
You're going to get the best gift ever when Senator Obama gets elected our president!
I can't donate right now...but will asap!
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Jun 8th 2008 at 7:35 am EDT
Sounds good Victoria!
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Jun 8th 2008 at 7:32 am EDT
Hells a hot place for cold Hearts...
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Jun 8th 2008 at 7:40 am EDT
We are really on.We are turning a new leaf and making history.We are on the run.To the end this race.We are taking over.The world stands with you Sir.I hope you know the job is not an easy ride.We stand by you at all times.Keep it going until Mccain goes home to see his Madam.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 7:41 am EDT
This is not going to be a clean campaign by any stretch of the imagination. I received an email from the RNC and it had so many distorted Obama's proposed policies. I will not paste the actual email, but I have posted my response
Robert (Mike) Duncan
RNC Chairman
June 8, 2008
Dear Mr. Duncan,
I will respond to your email in the same manner the email has been presented to me. It is awfully strange how you provided negative information regarding Obama and did not provide one positive bit of positive information regarding McCain or some convincing reason as to why he would make a good president. Is it a given that I would vote for McCain? At this point, I am 100% sure I will not vote for McCain this fall. His past personal life (past) and political life (past and present) is not what I desire for the next president. Labeling Obama as a liberal or radical is equivalent to childish name-calling. Obama has been married for over 15 years (to the same woman) and with all of the snippets from his church shown repeatedly on Fox, I am convinced he is a Christian. (Doesn't sound very liberal to me!) I am also annoyed with all of these scare tactics or this use of so-called negative jargon: radical, liberal, elitism or whatever. I didn't like this tactic when it was used in the last election, but I put up with it because I wanted Bush back in the White House.
I watched McCain, Obama, and Hillary while each of them addressed AIPAC. Obama clarified his statement and said he would meet Ahmadinejad WITH preconditions. There was even a lengthy applause from the audience when he made this statement. I did notice McCain was unaware of the divestment bill regarding Iran that Obama has proposed but McCain was against.
The email you have sent is filled with half-truths (deceitfulness) and then you ask me for a donation! Is this request radical? It sure is dishonest. We are now in the 21st century where all facts can be checked thanks in part to the information highway.
Obama has great suggestions for education, but I believe you must know that since it isn't mentioned in the email.
(to be continued on next post)
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Jun 8th 2008 at 7:42 am EDT
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I am now against the war, although in the beginning I was for the war. I was led to believe the war would be over within 6 months. 5 years of war is too long with no end in sight. Obama stated, "He would withdraw our troops carefully; one to two brigades a month." My father is a Marine, one brother was in the Navy and two brothers were in the army, and a nephew who is currently in the Marines stationed in Iraq. I want my nephew home. He has a wife and infant daughter.
Last, but not least, after the horrible oratorical display, or lack of display, from McCain on Tuesday, I hope and pray I will not have to listen to that embarrassment for the next four years. Maybe that is why you are sending this desperation email. Regardless of the reason(s), I may sit out this election or vote for someone in another party.
I would suggest you do not send emails that are disingenuous.
Sincerely,
A Disenchanted Ex -Republican
P.S. I am a registered nurse (BSN, MPH) and I am well aware of the health disparities and inequalities that exist in this country. Universal healthcare may not be the solution, mainly due to our population size exceeding well over 300 million people; however, something needs to be done to improve our healthcare system.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 7:50 am EDT
Its amazing that the media have acted as if McSame is qualified to be Commander in Chief.
This is the guy who:
-Said that the war would be over quickly
-Doesn't know the difference between Sunni, Shia & Kurd
-Claims that we are fighting terrorists in Iraq when in fact we are mainly interfering in THEIR civil war
-Keeps talking about winning!?!? How do you win a Civil War which you are not a party in?!?!?
-Doesn't seem to understand that Saddam was a SECULAR leader - thats right, Saddam actually oppressed the muslim extremists - he was doing us a favor!
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Theresa in Maine
Jun 8th 2008 at 7:52 am EDT
Kimmie: As an RN (like my dear mom was) you know first hand the need for health care. Bless you, dear, for writing this letter to the RNC.
It's evident that this will be a very very dirty campaign.
Don't forget for one minute that Big Money out there will not longer be allowed to lobby in Obama's White House for the first time in history.
They will 527 Obama to the point that Swift Boating they did to John Kerry will look like child's play.
If lobbyist hadn't been allowed, we would not be so reliant on foreign oil. We would have long ago developed more fuel efficiant vehicles and so many other things.
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Kimmie
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:02 am EDT
It was disappointing to see how the RNC had distorted Obama's proposed policies. I had to respond! I felt like a mother bear protecting her cub. It does show me they have a weak candidate in McCain and they are afraid to go up against Obama. There was not one word as to why McCain would be a good president. I found that to be quite strange.
Oh, by the eay, the minimum monetary request was $100. No paltry grassroots donations for them...the nerve! :)
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Robin Andrea Hussein Davis
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:22 am EDT
My husband said ABC is already smearing Barack, I'm getting the info later and launching a campaign. They must not smear our guy.
These are the same people who lied to us WITH GENERALS about nuclear weapons in Iraq, they are liars and want McSame.
I am still boycotting ABC because of their so called 'debate'.
DON'T WATCH ABC. Contact their advertisers. Tell them,
NOT THIS TIME, NOT AGAIN! If you have Dish, Comcast, Direct TV, they know what stations you're watching.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 8:17 am EDT
Kimmie thank you so much for sharing your response with us. It was extemely well presented. I am so proud of all the new Republican... no I'm sorry... AMERICAN friends I am making as a result og this campaign. Independent, Republican, Democrat we are ALL Americans who want and DESERVE a government who cares about US and not some ideological of corporate interest.
Barack is for the AMERICAN PEOPLE and thats why I'm for Barack.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 7:43 am EDT
She was a die hard Hillary supporter who always called Obama the "Rockstar" candidate.
fortunately for Barack, I convinced her to cast her vote for Obama,just by saying this conversation:
Me: John McSame/McBush, or the Democratic party?
Aunt: you're right, If another Republican is in office, I'm sure America would have a 2nd Revolution.
You see? we are in the same family and supported Different candidates, but in the end we new that Republicans in the white house cannot happen again
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marytnurse, supporting Barack Obama until I see his library built on donations from We The People
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:06 am EDT
most people are really only interested in sound bytes, or quick down-and-dirty catchy things.
this will be the way we earn this thing. we also need to educate, once we garner their interest, but this is the way to get people interested.
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Theresa in Maine
Jun 8th 2008 at 7:44 am EDT
I was just reading the google front page news and came upon this article with a link below. I didn't realize that Hillary had given at least $20 million in personal loans to her campaign. Oh, dear. That's a lot of money.
I had also read somewhere she had collected close to that amount for the general. I read where it would be legal for her to ask all these doners if she could place that money in her senatorial campaign fund. And from there, she could use that money to legally retire her debt. Is this correct? I hope so.
Leaving a campaign $30 million in debt, including at least $20 million in personal loans,
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Chris
Jun 8th 2008 at 7:48 am EDT
good morning theresa!
nice find!
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Theresa in Maine
Jun 8th 2008 at 7:56 am EDT
Good morning Chris. Thanks. I hope all will turn out well for her. I know it's traditional for the winning campaign to help. With food and oil so high, and lots of us trying to make ends meet, I cannot help her. So I hope those who donated up-front money to her general campaign will allow her to use it to pay down her debt.
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Nicole, NH "sweetie"
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:08 am EDT
Theresa,
I found out from a campaign lawyer on Friday, that money we donate to Sen Obama will not be used to retire HRC's debt. Sen Obama will likely have a joint fund raiser with her in the future. Hope this helps.
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Theresa in Maine
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:18 am EDT
Nicole, Good morning. I'm aware that our donations to Obama's campaign CANNOT go to pay down Hillary's debt. Obama himself can only give her the usual $2,400 or whatever that figure is. We can only help if it's a direct donation to her campaign. I'm sure there are some folks who are wealthy enough to help.
My oldest daughter and I assist my middle daughter with food and shelter because she's severely mentally challenged. Now we have to help her even more while attempting to meet our own needs. I worry all the time about her.
Thank God she has us, but there are so many mentally ill out there who are not helped by their families.
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Nicole, NH "sweetie"
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:36 am EDT
Good morning Theresa, may God bless you and your family. Drove up to Kittery last weekend. Love you guys in ME!
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ObamaWill
Jun 8th 2008 at 7:53 am EDT
She did not have to continue her campaign beyond the end of February when it was clear she could not win the contest. Even before that is was clear and if she had stopped at the time when it became necessary to donate to her campaign then it would have been about right. In other words the reason why she did not get sufficient support for campaign was because it was clear she could not win the contest.
What is worse for me is not the personal contribution that Clinton has made but the many contributions made by many peoples who simply could not afford them. I feel that the continuation of her campaign beyond its sell by date did the largest dis-service to them.
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Theresa in Maine
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:02 am EDT
ObamaWill: I would go on her site and read about the poor folks who were donating to her campaign. One was particularly sad to me and I posted it here. It just plain broke my heart. She said she was going to donate half her disability check and she said she had a very disabled child. I hope her donation was not accepted. I hope someone from the Clinton campaign contacted her and gave it back or helped her in some way. I cannot imagine how she must feel right now. Heartbreaking.
And there were other such stories which made me very sad. I'd keep thinking, but Hillary has millions, please don't give your food money.
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ObamaWill
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:24 am EDT
We heard this continuing pitch even in her suspension of her to nominee campaign speech. I really do feel for these people and feel that it is those that have been most taken advantage of that will be best served by the ALL inclusive presidency of Obama. It is why I am sure ALL Clinton's supporters and MORE still will vote alongside his already great support to gain the democrat victory in November.
May we never forget those that need our support them most...........
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Jun 8th 2008 at 8:22 am EDT
Obamawill, I agree. Many, who could not afford it, gave funds to a losing campaign effectively to run negative acts and risk dividing the Democratic party. It was not the best use of funds.
The problem now is the funds she needs to pay her debt are the same funds Obama needs to secure a General Election victory and the DNC needs to get those downticket victories. In my opinion, this is not a good time for her to be requesting our funds!!! Besides, she's not the only one with debts.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 8:29 am EDT
The funds that have been donated to support the Obama campaign CAN NOT be used to pay off her debts. That is the law .... so do not worry over this.
What can happen is for an event to be organised that will have funds earmarked to settle these and the debts acrued by other runners. This does not need to happen and for one I would give my funds to support the needy in preference to this.
Clinton had a choice, but the "MISABLED" and infirm do not.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 7:58 am EDT
I think the Democratic Party needs to review their Rules & Regulations regarding Primaries, Candidates & Debt.
It is irresponsible to run up debts in a Primary Campaign. If a candidate is not raising the funds necessary to run a campaign, then that is one of criteria the candidate needs to access on whether he/she continues in the race.
There should be a limit imposed on the amount a candidate can run up debts in a Primary.
To run up debts, and unpaid bills across the nation is UNACCEPTABLE.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 8:19 am EDT
agreed....this is scary to think that anyone can just run up and run up and run up debt (and they still owe people in iowa!) and not have it be stopped by someone who is rested and rational and impartial; you've spent over what you brought in by X million (or for lower campaigns, by X thousands) and you are now out of the race.
and mtp just got interrupted by a storm warning....sigh...
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Jun 8th 2008 at 9:02 am EDT
As soon as this is doe we take away freedoms. It must be resisted strongly, but a a sense should be adopted by and ecouraged between the candidates that the primary care and consideration must be to the consideration of every aspect of ALL supporters. Funding and the abilitity to provide that funding should be central to that.
However, I think it would be wrong to stop individuals as they have the right to make their choice. I feel it would be better to find ways to support the organisations who support these individuals.
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Joe in Vermont
Jun 8th 2008 at 7:58 am EDT
Good Morning Theresa!
Greetings from "scorched" Vermont.
According to Federal Elections Law, she can't transfer any balance from the General Election Fund to pay off primary debts.
She can ask the contributors if they want it refunded, donated to a charity or, interesting, put into her her Senate reelection campaign fund for 2012.
I concur on her debt and have done a 180 degree switch. Part selfish, part fair play. The selfish part doesn't want page one news the day after Barack's nomination to be "Clinton Campaign Sued by FEC". Any unpaid invoices as of Barack's nomination are treated as contributions subject to the $2300 limit. Looks like Mark Penn could get life if he isn't paid! Seriously, she's in a bind.
The "Fair Play" part died for me yesterday when I saw 99% of the blog comments on her site. Total disconnect, scathing insults of Obama, the media, "stolen election" etc.
To be sure, there are a lot of Clinton voters who look at the big pricture. They're hurting right now and my heart goes out to them. The other "foaming at the mouth" types, need to chill. If they want McCain in order to position her for 2012, they'd better watch it. Just let McCain give a few more performances like Tuesday nights and this election will settle itself.
Enjoy this Sunday in beautiful Rockport!
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Theresa in Maine
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:34 am EDT
Good morning Joe. So you've had hot weather in VT? Well, I yesterday was perfect here by the sea. (brag brag brag)
My husband took me out to the Weathervane in Belfast for that strawberry daiquiri that I said I'd have after Barack became the democratic nominee. Boy was it good, served in a tall shaply glass which whipped cream on the top. I was thirsty and sipped it too fast. It left my head feeling foggy, but it was worth the wait.
That was my celebration promise which I never thought I'd see. This more then makes up for having lost "our" candidate, Howard Dean four years ago. Boy that was tough so I can relate to the grief of Hillary's strong supporters.
I think she's keeping her site open so they can grieve, but gosh, it's really quite negative. John Edwards' supporters did the same thing. I was allowed to post there, and went to try to consold them. Boy, they were not in the mood to hear from an Obama supporter. After a couple weeks I went back and his blog had gotten even uglier so I wrote to his campaign with my thoughts. Strange thing.... his blog was shut down that very evening.
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Vana (Hey Sarah Palin, can you spell and define "Maverick"
Jun 8th 2008 at 7:58 am EDT
STOP THIS PLEASE. LETS MOVE ON. STOP THE NEGATIVE POSTS/STORIES OF CLINTON. PLEASE.
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Joe in Vermont
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:04 am EDT
Sorry Vana, but respectively disagree. While Hillary should not be attacked and I have to state my opinion of her rose greatly after yesterday's speech, the debt is troubling and could cause headaches for not only her but the party.
I'm hopeful that Barack will arrange several joint fundraisers to help retire it. FEC regs have to be checked carefully so no "whiff" of doing anything wrong emerges.
Hillary will remain on the national stage for years to come and that can be a good thing. I really felt she finally got 100% out from under Bill's shadow yesterday. She has and will make a great contribution to this country. Hope she gets a couple of days alone and some rest.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 8:07 am EDT
This is not negative Vana, it's a discussion and a sharing of opinion, which we still have a right to do. Not one personal or ad hominen attack, just an observation that there were bad decisions made. Get a grip...
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Jun 8th 2008 at 8:25 am EDT
I think what Vana is tryig to say is we are in the Early stages of uniting with Hillary supporters and some of these observations of Hillarys activities, can alter that process.
Not that Your points are'nt valid.
Obama really wants us to Unite for the good of the party. I'm going to follow his lead for now.
To me that's the Priority.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 8:32 am EDT
oops "trying"(sp)
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Jun 8th 2008 at 8:36 am EDT
ok, yes....tho the FEC and it's issues should be forefront in that corruption cleanup, this is not the time...thanks for the reminder.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 7:49 am EDT
Decide if you want:
To get out of Iraq,
Universal health care,
An end to tax cuts for the wealthy, and
A new vision.
Or, do you want to lose our chance for this?
If yes, then vote for McCain.
If yes, then stop complaining because you have nothing to complain about. Because you have just become part of the problem.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 7:56 am EDT
Good Morning ObamaNation!
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Jun 8th 2008 at 7:59 am EDT
I need a list of "Obama Myths Debunked" - does anyone have a short list? One of my relatives who now is considering Obama thought he lived abroad for most of his life, was totally off about his parentage and relatives and that he was - surprise! of the Islamic religion.
I have no clue (yeah right!) where this stuff comes from but human beings remember quick sound bytes of info and I need to collect some NOW.
A blogger yesterday had a GREAT idea - she's making business cards with a quick Obama Bio and voting record vs. McCain talking points - perfect! VistaPrint does 250 cards for about $3.99 - I don't know what the shipping is - Anyway -
Any myth busters out there? Need'em - need the links!
PS - I have THESE SO FAR:
MYTH: Obama willingly chose to study radical Islam as an adult in Indonesia.
TRUTH: Obama attended an ELEMENTARY SCHOOL between the AGES OF SIX AND EIGHT and later ATTENDED CATHOLIC SCHOOL.
MYTH: Obama as taught radical Islam
TRUTH: Obama was NOT taught Wahhabism, or any form of radical Islam.
MYTH: A madrassa is any school that teaches radical Islam.
TRUTH: Madrassa is the Arabic word for school. English speaking Schools in Arabic countries that serve the children of American service men and women are also called Madrassas.
MYTH: Obama's father raised him as a radical Muslim.
Truth: Obama, in his 1995 autobiography describes both his biological father and his stepfather, as born Muslim, but atheist or agnostic by choice.
MYTH: Barack Obama is a Muslim.
TRUTH: Barack Obama is, and has been, a practicing, card carrying, attending church Christian since 1988.
MYTH: Barack Obama is a Muslim who converted to Christianity in order to seek public office.
TRUTH: See above and Due to over numerous death and bomb threats to his Church combined with the media attaching everything any minister said to Obama as his own belief, Obama recently left his church.
MYTH: Barack Obama is sympathetic to radical Islam.
TRUTH: Barack Obama said the following: "You want a fight, President Bush? Let's finish the fight with Bin Laden and al-Qaeda, through effective, coordinated intelligence, and a shutting down of the financial networks that support terrorism, and a homeland security program that involves more than color-coded warnings."
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Coracii - Counting The Days Until January 20th, 2009
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:19 am EDT
Here's a good central place with an air-tight reputation to fact-find on many of the myths that have been spread about Obama (and just about any other topic you can imagine):
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NY Woman for Obama
Jun 8th 2008 at 9:29 am EDT
Thank SO MUCH!!! That was the BEST SITE with multiple links - if you catch this - keep posting it as you see others come in with similar requests.
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Please delete my profile...
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:48 am EDT
Some of your truths are not correct. Barack attended a Catholic shool in Indonesia and after attended a public school. In Hawaii he attended Punahou which is a private school.
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NY Woman for Obama
Jun 8th 2008 at 9:28 am EDT
Thank you for the clarification - I need to fix this on my own blog site as well.
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marytnurse, supporting Barack Obama until I see his library built on donations from We The People
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:54 am EDT
i assume that you know about this site's myth busting link? it's not terribly easily searchable, but it is all there.
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Julie from Garland, TX
Jun 8th 2008 at 7:59 am EDT
Please excuse the "off message" post...
At the risk of sounding a bit dense, what exactly is GOTV and how do I access it?
Any direction would be appreciated...
Julie
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Ronin Talgar
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:02 am EDT
Get out the vote, I think.
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Julie from Garland, TX
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:05 am EDT
Ahhh... Well that would make sense, wouldn't it!! Guess I should have finished my first cup of coffee before I asked!! Thanks, Robin.
Julie
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Ronin Talgar
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:07 am EDT
Robin eh? Heh better than ron :P np.
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Barbara"Hussein-fistbump" BaRock-O-Biden
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:03 am EDT
Get out the vote.
lolololol
Dont feel bad, I've been here since Jan08 and just got the nerve up to asked that question 3days ago.lololol
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Awake for Change in PIttsburgh, PA
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:23 am EDT
GOTV means Get Out The Vote: Its a canvassing and registration drive. I used to think it was an Obama TV channel on the website but its not; its an acronmym to encourage people to get involved. I hope that helps.
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Reggie; Who Just Signed Up For An 8 Year Tour Of "O"-Duty!!!
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:23 am EDT
It means Get Out The Vote and you access it by picking up your phone or ring door bells and telling people to:
GET OUT AND VOTE!!!!
Hahahahaha I just couldn't resist Julie. LOL
But it was a good question ;-)
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Julie from Garland, TX
Jun 8th 2008 at 9:23 am EDT
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Yeah, like "Awake", I thought it was a cable station or something. I've been scrolling my channel lineup looking for it!!
Thanks for the responses, everyone - I like the fast answers and the sense of humor here!!
Have a great day,
Julie
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Reggie; Who Just Signed Up For An 8 Year Tour Of "O"-Duty!!!
Jun 8th 2008 at 10:30 am EDT
ROFLMAO Julie!!!! GOTV; GO TV channel 8!!!!
Gotta add that to my menu!!! Hahahahaha
Hello people |
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Ronin Talgar
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:01 am EDT
Finally wacthed his speech, still have to finish watching hillary's. Both very good I'd say- Obama's was especially good at the end and I'm looking forward to another 20 mins of Hillary's. Feeling good about where you gusy are at, keep it up.
I wanted to ask though, whats you''re opinion on having a prefferential voting system in America, inplace of the general?
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Von from Omaha
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:06 am EDT
I assume you mean proportional. I'm all for it. In fact that there are several states which have passed bills in their state legislatures that if all of the other 50 states switch to proportional allocation of electoral votes so will they.
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Ronin Talgar
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:12 am EDT
That too but no, prefferential- ah I think you might know it as run-off elections? The nader thing gotme thinkoing about it- Gore would have won if you'd had it then.
Its where you vote for each candidate, but as a prefference. The paper would look like-
Bush [ ]
Nader [ ]
Gore [ ]
And they could have voted for Nader like this:
Bush [3]
Nader [1]
Gore [2]
When Nader got eliminated, having the least votes, his votes could have flowed on, and we know they would have mostly gone to Gore...aside even from that happy outcome, its a good system- we use it here in Aus. More democratic.
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ObamaWill
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:07 am EDT
Do not try to fix something that does not need fixing.
If I would recommend any change for the primaries it would either to have the voting of all the states on the same day or the counting of all the votes on the same day.
The only thing against the second is that many hopefuls could not run under that premise as there would simply not be enough funds to support it. Indeed it is the present system and only the present system that allows the best to work through.
Oh, and we must find a movement towards a majority vote system as this would be the biggest disaster of all.
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Ronin Talgar
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:14 am EDT
True, but perfect that which can be bettered :) .
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Coracii - Counting The Days Until January 20th, 2009
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:25 am EDT
Voting all on the same day would tend to handicap all but the best funded politicians. If we had that system in place this year, we'd most likely be choosing between Hillary Clinton and Mitt Romney for the General Election. Having a few smaller states first allows candidates an inexpensive platform to introduce themselves, but it definitely has some flaws that could be tweaked.
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Barbara"Hussein-fistbump" BaRock-O-Biden
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:14 am EDT
Whats is that?????????
preferrentail election
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Ronin Talgar
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:17 am EDT
Kind of demonstrated above. Hope it makes sense. Allows people to vote closer to how they feel, without throwing away votes, installing people named Bush :P.
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Barbara"Hussein-fistbump" BaRock-O-Biden
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:20 am EDT
lololol
Thank you Ronin.
I think I might like that. Also, I wish the Race was shorter. More states on the same day. Maybe all Causus states on the same day. Or all votes with in the same month before the summer.
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Ronin Talgar
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:24 am EDT
Glad you like it- as for shorter races, idk, this has been quite a ride, and we're not done yet.
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Jamilah
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:24 am EDT
That's an interesting concept. I can see how it would work. It has possibilities.
In terms of primaries, I would like to see regional primaries. That would make it easier on the candidates, also. So all of New England votes, then a week or two later the Southeast, and so on.
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Ronin Talgar
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:26 am EDT
We've been doing it for 108 years :) I like your idea about the primaries, how was it determined as is anyway?
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Barbara"Hussein-fistbump" BaRock-O-Biden
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:32 am EDT
I think we should have all the travels,debates,rallies from January thr April, then all states vote in May. 1 election each week split up in regions. then start the General race starts.
What do you think????????
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ObamaWill
Jun 8th 2008 at 9:27 am EDT
As much as any system has defects the present system allows the best candidate to come through. Almost any tweak would better favour the better funded candidate and we should guard against it.
Having several smaller state primaries allows these candidates to come through and then of corse the money will follow that candidate. This is the way it should be.
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maria from europe
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:08 am EDT
hope you have a wonderful sunday... rest some and get FIRED UP and READY TO GO on monday :D
i was scrolling a bit before posting this... guess from what i read we need more healing time... i know it will take some work to calm ppl down and believe that change will come with BO as president... he is an honest candidate... with a wonderful view for the USA so ppl just gather your strength and work with him...
and yesterday some posted a you tube link with BO talking to his staff and volunteers .... i posted this before but i think for those who dont really know him... it shows how humble he is and how he understands what needs to be done...
MUST SEE >>>>>>>=_ =URL=_=
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maria from europe
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:13 am EDT
guess the link didnt come out lolol
lets try again
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Kathleen O'Bamacan
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:26 am EDT
Good morning, Maria my Porto friend!
Fundraising for Unity |
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Jun 8th 2008 at 8:09 am EDT
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Through Friday June 13 I am willing to match $5 for the first 20 donations placed through my fundraising page for any amount:
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In this historic election we can't afford to wait for tommorow. Please join me in supporting our nominee for POTUS, Barack Obama!
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Kathleen O'Bamacan
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:31 am EDT
I am in for a match! Wish it could be more!
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Concerned for our future
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:41 am EDT
Done
OBAMA and CLINTON vs McCain & "friends" |
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Brian Zelley
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:13 am EDT
Congratulations to both candidates. I'm satisfied
that both ran excellent campaigns
I'm somewhat dazzled that a few are still trying to paint
either Barack or Hillary in a shoddy light on this and
other blogs. Are some folks trying to play the old divide and conquer routine. Who best benefits when
these folks beat the drum. Sounds like old style
dirty politics.
Of interest, I thought it was funny when John McCain
was talking about "that is not change that we can believe in", even John was grinning when he was
reading those points.
Maybe John can laugh about his experience or
the experience of some of his team. How about:
"Flip Flopping on issues is not experience we can believe in" (now that is funny). Or how about:
The experience of seasoned Federal lobbyists
running the campaign is not experience that
we should believe in (now that is sad).
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Czarina CarolforObama
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:15 am EDT
Good morning
I've been listening to Cspan, and they have as a guest Paul Light, Prof. at NYU. He is discussing Veeps for Obama and McCain.
For Obama: Obama is interested in setting policy. He needs a CEO-type, and he felt Obama had a wealth of Democrats that would do just fine; Strickland, Sebelius, Rendell, keeping in mind there are pros and cons to both of them. Now the reason he argued against Clinton was that Hillary is interested in setting policy and that she probably wouldn't like the CEO-type position. The federal govt is so broken now that it is imperative that the Veep do this type of job, said the professor, and he just didn't think Hillary would be interested.
McCain: A harder job. Definitely someone younger. He even mentioned Newt Gingrich.
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Von from Omaha
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:19 am EDT
I have to disagree. I want the VP role to go back to going to funerals and the like. We saw the perils of expanding the VP role with Cheney.
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Czarina CarolforObama
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:22 am EDT
I don't think Obama's veep will
be just going to funerals. I agree
with the professor. He will need a
CEO-type. The program really
brings out some interesting points.
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Ronin Talgar
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:29 am EDT
I hope that he feels confident enough to get whoeverhe feels is best for the job, not which part of the vote it can glean him. What is a CEO type exactly?
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Czarina CarolforObama
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:51 am EDT
CEO=Chief Operating Officer.
I think what the professor was saying was,
Barack is interested in policy-setting;
the CEO would be involved in the
inner workings of the govt. That is
why he thought a governor, someone with
executive experience, would be a good
pick.
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Czarina CarolforObama
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:53 am EDT
CEO=Chief Operating Officer.
I think what the professor was saying was,
Barack is interested in policy-setting;
the CEO would be involved in the
inner workings of the govt. That is
why he thought a governor, someone with
executive experience, would be a good
pick.
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Concerned for our future
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:26 am EDT
I believe that more to the point Obama needs to stress:
Experience has brought us this: Them point to all of what has not gone right with the econumy and foreign policies. Actually I think he should say: This type of experience. He also should stress his alreay indirect mentioning of a Neurosis: We can't keep doing the samething and expecting a different result.
Whenever MacCain talkes about bid spending Obama should bring up the huge spending government has lavished on corporations, and how we do not ever get more but less employment or less pocket money.
Leading the Team |
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Jun 8th 2008 at 8:15 am EDT
Good Morning Obama family from Indiana!
Anyone have the link to the Obama video of the meeting with his team in Chicago?
I want to send it to former bosses so they can see what a real leader of a team looks like:0)
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maria from europe
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:17 am EDT
Link
here you go
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Beth from Indiana
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:22 am EDT
Thank You!!!
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Jun 8th 2008 at 8:18 am EDT
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Robin Andrea Hussein Davis
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:18 am EDT
Morning, "MEET THE PRESS", all about how smart our guy and family is!!!!
Hard work and the truth will get you into The White House.
Thank you Barack for doing this for all of us! We hope you've had a lovely 'birthday weekend' with your family.
Love you guys, have a wonderful day!
From, Portland, OR
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Dianne
Jun 8th 2008 at 9:40 am EDT
Watched Meet the Press as well.
Final segment was on Bobby Kennedy. In 1968, Bobby Kennedy was quoted as saying: In 40 years a Negro could be President. Those are PROPHETIC words from a young Senator from New York 40 years ago!
They also showed some video footage of an interview with him after he declared his Candidacy for the Primary, the issues of times in 1968 are the same as they are today.
FIRED UP? ... READY TO GO?
LET'S MAKE IT A LANDSLIDE!!!
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Jun 8th 2008 at 8:21 am EDT
McCain: According to the professor, there
are so many things McCain has to do.
1. He has to hold onto the evangelicals.
2. He has to see how he can woo
the Latinos.
3. He has to try to win over
moderates.
The professor said, at the end of the day,
he sweeps away the polls and asks himself,
who can I get along with, as McCain
is not known to be the most even-
tempered person in the world
Obama: With is commanding financial
lead and actual polling lead
(which will much bigger next
week), he can be a little
safer, a little bit more
focused on that governor-type,
the executive-type, that will be
his COO.
NOTE: Some old fool called in and
said Obama reminded them of
a carnival barker.
The professor said, "With all due
respect, Obama is one of the most
gifted candidates of all times
(thank you, Professor), who
said is as if Obama was born
to be president.
Very interesting program.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 8:24 am EDT
...about Clinton's speech. She spent a lot of time talking about women and the glass ceiling, etc. That's fair, I'm sure lots of women supported her because she was the first female candidate with a strong chance to win. But, to me, her candidacy should have never been about feminism (and it really wasn't overtly so until the last month). Wasn't her goal to be President for
everyone
?
Obama's nomination night speech spent little to no time on its significance to black people, but rather to all Americans.
I am woman, by the way...and it just seemed that Clinton's emphasis on feminism was exclusive, not inclusive...
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Jun 8th 2008 at 8:27 am EDT
You can't encourage people to vote for your opponent unless you address the reasons why they are saying they won't. She had to let them know the galss ceiling is cracked, elect McCain and we seal it back up again. I thouht she was uber effective.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 8:34 am EDT
Fair point, but I think it's a stretch to say there's any connection between electing McCain and the candidacy of a strong female candidate.
Some women are angry because they felt this was stolen from Hillary - and she helped create that perception with the Michigan, Florida issue. THIS is what she should have addressed directly - essentially, "I lost fair and square" - if she wants to address what supporters are most angry about.
I remember a George Will column where he talked about the first black manager in baseball. He observed that only when that manager was fired for not doing the job the owner wanted could they claim fairness and equal opportunity. I think its the same here.
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Nancy
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:44 am EDT
You can thank New Hamphire for that. I think the Clinton campaign realized at that point how important this older voting block could be.
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Sharon H.
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:45 am EDT
I agree. As much as I want to feel all warm & fuzzy now, I also found her "I am woman, hear me roar" with 18 millions cracks in the glass ceiling rather sudden. When a woman runs and wins who has NOT been married to a two term President and has the advantage of his political machine THEN I will feel real progress has been made. That said, she gave a good speech and now I hope she follows through by strongly campaigning for Obama.
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Marie
Jun 8th 2008 at 9:00 am EDT
Everyone keeeps forgetting the 18million is due to republican crossover!
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yesterdaygone : they said this day would never come
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:24 am EDT
found the baseball cards tim russert just mentioned on meet the press:
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where do i buy these?!
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Jun 8th 2008 at 8:26 am EDT
bigger graphics:
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egads, they had another version that would have indicated barack endorsing hillary.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 8:26 am EDT
Go take a look a this photo to see why I support Barack Obama and you can help us out by making a donations today if you can.
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yesterdaygone : they said this day would never come
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:37 am EDT
way to go, ann, great progress in the fundraising.
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yesterdaygone : they said this day would never come
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:39 am EDT
if i maybe so bold, is there a way you can put your name "ann" on the fundraising page? i bookmarked the page for later on and i want to remember whose page i contributed to.
I knew you would come through for the country, Hillary |
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Jun 8th 2008 at 8:27 am EDT
Just a quick note to mention that yesterday was wonderful: The most articulate,warm and inspirational speech I've seen Hillary Clinton make. It's disappointing to hear and read some of the sour grapes comments coming from her supporters: If they truly cared about the woman's principles, they would follow her lead to support Obama all the way to a desperately needed victory. I hope those who still haven't seen the light will be waking up soon and getting involved to make more history and regain what we've lost through the nightmare past few years of Bush and pals.
Thank you, Hillary, for doing the right thing. You've gained my respect and I can forgive some of those little moments of nastiness in the fight for this nomination.
What the Republicans gave us |
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Jun 8th 2008 at 8:28 am EDT
I am really feeling good about the general election.
1. McCain doesn't seem able to give a good speech
2. Bush has given us
Record unemployment
Record job losses
High inflation
A stupid war
3. The Republicans have absolutely no issues to run
on
Obama is great but I think the Republicans will defeat themselves.
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Lee
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:31 am EDT
4. The RNC is laying the groundwork to sling mud at Obama instead of address the issues. That will big a turnoff to a new generation of voters. I perused their sight and found link and link of anti-Obama. It is, in a word, pathetic.
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Nancy
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:38 am EDT
The only thing the right can do is try to put a question mark on Obama. They cannot argue issues effectively so mud slinging will indeed ensue. McCain will try to take the high road, but others will not.
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Lee
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:28 am EDT
Greetings from the other side of the world. Good morning, America! I've been on the outside looking in during this primary process. I have to say that, Obama and his advisers executed a flawless strategy in beating down the Clinton machine and paving the way for a new generation of politics.
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Acorn from Texas
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:42 am EDT
Welcome Aboard.
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Watsy
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:44 am EDT
I've been watching from across the pond as well, and it was with a great sigh of relief that I watched Ms Clinton suspend her campaign. It is going to get really tough from here on in, but if we can withstand the inevitable mudslinging, and if enough of Hillary's supporters come on board (after shedding bitterness and negativity) we can beat McCain and I can feel happy and proud of my homeland.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 8:36 am EDT
Meet the Press doing a comparison of Obama and McCain (now. after cmmercials)
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yesterdaygone : they said this day would never come
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:41 am EDT
did you see the baseball card? hillary was hugging and holding up barack. loved it. where do i buy them?
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Not-a-Sheep : ENOUGH is ENOUGH!
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:44 am EDT
that was great! I forget the name of the card company that makes them (Upper Deck, was it?) but some usually turn up on Ebay.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 8:47 am EDT
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here is the picture. i want to blow this up into a poster!
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Not-a-Sheep : ENOUGH is ENOUGH!
Jun 8th 2008 at 9:08 am EDT
Have you seen the McCain/Obama one yet?
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yesterdaygone : they said this day would never come
Jun 8th 2008 at 9:31 am EDT
is barack punching or grabbing mccain's shirt?
let's get ready to rumble! lol
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Jun 8th 2008 at 9:06 am EDT
Check this website for the Clinton hugging Obama card. You may be able to get it from here.
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Jun 8th 2008 at 8:42 am EDT
Does anyone know about the phonebanking to Obama volunteers to thank them for their service and to ask them to get involved with voter registration?
I was doing it yesterday, and I was very impressed with the number of people willing to step up to the bat.
If you are watching Meet The Press, you will see that the race could be very tight. The key to it will be registering new voters. In NC and VA, there have been identified 700,000 unregistered voters. I would imagine in states like PA, OH, and New Hampshire, there are just as many, if not more.
Please give it a try. If you phonebanked during the primaries, this will be a piece of cake. Another tip: Ask them if they could possibly make a donation to the campaign.
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Czarina CarolforObama
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:56 am EDT
I think it is too soon right now to say,
but my question was about phonebanking
to get volunteers to register voters.
If you go to "Make Calls," you will
see the information and the script.
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Nikki in VA "Who finds it nearly impossible to function without a phone list or a canvassing walk pack!"
Jun 8th 2008 at 8:53 am EDT
Morning Carol! There is a Obama group that made a lot of phone calls throughout the entire primary season. Here is the link:
Link
You could also post a thank you on each new thread for a day or two because I'm sure there were many folks making calls on there own.
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