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Q&A with Samantha Power
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- Sep 14th, 2007 at 5:13 pm EDT
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Samantha Power is a professor at the Kennedy School of Government and author of the Pulitzer Prize-winning book, “A Problem from Hell,” which explores genocide and American foreign policy in the 20th century. Today, I spoke with Power, who is currently serving as a foreign policy advisor to Senator Obama, about Barack's Iraq plan and his potential to bring about a new direction for American foreign policy.
First of all, can you tell us how you decided to become an advisor to Senator Obama?
I have tried just about every means I have at my disposal to try to convince foreign policy-makers to consider the human consequences of their decision-making. I teach at the Kennedy School of Government, I write books, I give lectures, I'm on boards of first-class NGOs. I had never really considered going into government or getting involved in electoral politics. But then I met Barack.
When Obama came on the scene, I was floored by his combination of deep, ingrained principle and intellectual rigor. It was unusual to meet a person who didn’t simply accept and regurgitate received wisdom, but who pushed back. And when I then watched him inspire Americans into believing that they could be a part of making change, I was further impressed. Principle, rigor, and inspiration don’t usually come in the same package. And given the gravity of the world’s challenges at present, they seemed urgently needed.
I thought to myself, if your aim is to change the world, you can try to change it yourself in your own limited way, in your own small world. Or occasionally, rarely, perhaps once in a lifetime, somebody comes along who so ignites the imagination and convinces you of their potential and their leadership and you say, ok forget your day job, this is more important. I met Barack for the first time in the spring of 2005 and was surprised to hear myself tell him at our first meeting that I was prepared to leave my job at Harvard and come work for him in his Senate office, which I did in 2005 and 2006. Now that he’s running for the office we most need him in, I do what I can behind the scenes as part of his foreign policy team.
Can you talk about the run-up to the war in Iraq? What do you make of Barack's early opposition?
Today, people are having a hard time remembering just how one-sided the “debate” was in this country in the run-up to the war and just how rare it was for people in the mainstream media and political culture to take a public stand in opposition to the war. Even at Harvard, the foreign policy herd all went in favor of the war. Opposing the war was very isolating, even at a liberal institution like that one.
What deserves emphasizing about Barack is not simply that he had the judgment and prescience to oppose the war when his leading rivals in this race lined up behind the administration, but that he was prepared to stand up and criticize the invasion while he was fighting for his political life in his campaign for Senate. Today, because the war is deeply unpopular, it's easy for people to say 'oh, good for Obama, he opposed the war, everyone opposes the war.' It befits all of us to go back in time and reflect on just how marginalizing it was for him to make the choice he did.
All of the political winds were blowing in the other direction and I'm sure that any wise political consultant would have told Barack that it would be dangerous for him to oppose a war that our leaders and pundits were predicting would be a “cakewalk.” This episode underscores both his ability to weigh costs and benefits more shrewdly than most in our political culture,
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his willingness to endure political costs in order to do the right thing.
Continue reading after the jump for Power's thoughts on Barack's Iraq plan and his overall vision for a new foreign policy.
Let's talk about Barack's plan to turn the page in Iraq. What do you think distinguishes Barack's approach on Iraq from the rest of the field?
Barack Obama moves us away, again and again, from the false dichotomies that pervade our politics. In the Iraq debate right now it often feels as if you have, on one side, the President and his supporters who are in total denial about what's happening on the ground. They claim that this catastrophic war can all be turned around by US troops, and they warn of the calamitous consequences of withdrawing – sectarian violence against civilians, heightened Iranian influence, an al Qaeda foothold, without ever so much as acknowledging that these are the present realities in Iraq, precipitated by the US invasion and occupation. But on the other side of the political divide at home, we hear from those who support withdrawal that US forces are the source of all of Iraq's problems, with the implication that that once we get out the mess will clean itself up, or, even if it doesn’t sort itself, its not our problem. The debate seems to lunge between denialism on the one side and indifference to consequences on the other.
Obama is busting out of this false dichotomy, and saying, responsibly, “look, we need to begin withdrawing immediately, we were totally wrong to go in, but instead of simply asserting there won’t be any strategic or humanitarian consequences to our exit, let's begin right now to do all we can to mitigate those consequences.” Closing our eyes and ears and suspending thought about withdrawal until it occurs isn't smart or humane, so can we begin to do consequence mitigation now? That means planning a counter-terrorism residual force, bringing in international partners, using what leverage we have in Iraq and in the region to ensure minorities are less vulnerable when we leave, talking to our foes to try to neutralize their negative influence, helping neighboring countries shoulder the mounting burden of this war, etc..
This plan reflects Barack's ability to take responsibility for difficult challenges -- to not wish away complications but embrace them and try to resolve things as best he can. I think it reflects, on a micro and macro level, his longstanding belief that none of the essential transnational problems that exist on the horizon—counter-terrorism, non- proliferation, you name it—can be solved by military force alone. He recognizes that we need a surge in political action, a surge in diplomacy within Iraq when it comes to bringing the Sunni on board, and it isn’t US troops who should be responsible for that surge in diplomacy. For too long we have asked the US military to bear the burden of stabilizing Iraq. They have done what has been asked of them, but it is long past time to acknowledge that Iraq’s stabilization hangs not on the US military’s performance but on Iraqi political compromise. However unlikely that compromise seems at present, the only way to increase the odds of it happening is to use all the tools in the American toolbox – diplomatic, political, and economic.
How will Barack work with other countries to help stabilize Iraq?
Obama's is the first plan that actually is willing to provide tangible resources to Iraq's neighbors, which have themselves suffered the spillover of Iraq. His plan recognizes that we can't just snap our fingers and expect regional powers to run to the table and offer help to the United States or to Iraqi stability —that we've got to incentivize their cooperation. These people are deeply nervous about what the influx of Iraqi refugees is going to mean in their countries. His plan says, 'Look we recognize that we invaded this country. Iraq’s neighbors, you are the countries dealing with the humanitarian consequences of our invasion. You are the ones facing two million refugees pouring into your borders, and we are going to help you.'
He understands that the humanitarian dimension of Iraq – which the Bush administration hasn't dealt with at all -- is fundamentally a strategic dimension, a national security dimension. Barack knows that we need to get beyond the false dichotomy between our interests and our values. The refugees are a moral problem but they are also a strategic problem. That fragile sectarian demographic balance in the region is something that will implicate US interests for generations to come. And we're not going to get support from Iraq's neighbors if they don't feel like they're getting support from us in grappling with the colossal domestic challenge of managing the arrival of two million Iraqis.
Can you point to specific leadership qualities in Senator Obama that will help him turn the page not only in Iraq, but in foreign policy generally?
If you look at his record in the US Senate and State Senate, what stands out is his ability to work with un-likeminded people—to go into a room and find overlapping terrain and forge compromise. His record of bipartisanship is remarkable. That's just the kind of capacity for compromise -- for extracting concessions where they're not expected -- that one needs in the field of international diplomacy.
The fact that he's of the world -- that he's half-Kenyan, speaks a fair amount of Indonesian, speaks pidgin Swahili, is comfortable in the world and doesn't have an insular perspective -- is going to make a huge difference in terms of his ability to do diplomatic work and listen to other perspectives. It doesn't mean he will defer to those perspectives, but if the next president is to pursue the US national interests in a globalized world, the president better understand those perspectives. As he has made clear in the debate over whether we should talk to our enemies, Obama knows that by being in the room he will not sacrifice his principles. He knows that he can be tough while being in the room. And he is tired of the counterproductive habit of lumping US foes together. He wants to pry them apart, but to do so, we have to improve our understanding, and we have to lose our reputation for arrogance.
For all of the mistrust of the United States right now, people in Darfur, Iran, Indonesia, and even Iraq aren’t sitting around hoping for another superpower to come on the scene. The very depth of their anti-Americanism is a sign that they have retained the capacity to be disappointed by the United States. Despite all that has happened, they still expect more from us.
When Obama goes out into the world as President and shows that different face of the United States—a much humbler face but a very confident face, one that's very proud to be American but understands that it is American to listen to others and that it advances the national interest to tackle transnational threats collaboratively and to promote individual dignity -- the United States will be on the road to restoring its leadership and enhancing its security.
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lionanimal
Sep 14th 2007 at 8:14 pm EDT
Thank you Samantha power and barack obama for your public service to citizens of Earth.
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EM doing her part to bend the arc
Sep 14th 2007 at 8:50 pm EDT
It is extremely important to feature the brilliant minds working on this campaign. America needs to see what kind of talent Obama attacts. When I speak of Obama to others, I often say that he is the one capable to do this - to bring the most capable and gifted people into governing our country who never had interest in doing so. Thanks Samantha - for proving me right!
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bryan lovsness
Sep 14th 2007 at 10:26 pm EDT
we need to GET MAD RE: the war in Iraq and bombard the Senators that are fence-hangers with e-mails, faxes, phone calls - also those of you with MySpace can embed any of the videos on here easily into your site and then your friends will be exposed to Barack too..THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR NOT HAVING THE VOTES...it is not doing the will of the people in the last election...whoever gets past this ROADBLOCK and gets the VOTE needed will TRULY be a UNIFIER and deserves to be President..hopefully it will be Barack.
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John from Brooklyn, NY
Sep 15th 2007 at 5:11 pm EDT
...on the day of Clinton's Wes Clark endorsement?
It is hard to see what value a "trailer" on the Harkin Steak Fry adds on this of all days. While Clinton is using Clark's endorsement to push her commander-in-chief credentials, the punchline of the steak fry video is to push the "rock star" narrative, which only reinforces the notion that Obama is more style than substance.
The campaign has to leverage its best resources at every moment.
Messaging matters.
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Luevonia "Hussein" Williams
Sep 15th 2007 at 5:34 pm EDT
John,
I tried to bring up the same issue on this blog last weekend, only to get told by most of the respondents on here that I was being too negative, and some even doubted that I was a true supporter of Barack.
But, I agree with you (and a few others on this blog, who have realized what we have realized), that the issue of Barack's so-called (and notice that I said so-called, because I think that he is qualified in foreign policy matters), must get more press and serious discussion on this blog.
Because you are right, that with Wesley Clark's endorsement of Hillary, it will unfortunetly make her look even more experienced in foreign policy matters. And, she is not the one with the hill to climb on that issue, Barack is. Hillary has a harder hill to climb than Obama on the issue of "change". And, so far, she seems to be making more inroads with the undecides on her percieved weak spot of "not being for change", than Obama has been making on his percieved weak spot of "lack of foriegn policy experience"!
So, the members of this blog (and other supporter of Barack's out there), need to get used to the questioning by some people about Barack's so-called lack of foriegn policy experience.
Again, I don't think that Barack is weak on foriegn policy, but Hillary (and others), have so far been suceeding somewhat in suggesting to people (especially undecideds), that Barack lacks sufficient foriegn policy experience.
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Lorraine
Sep 15th 2007 at 6:06 pm EDT
It's up because that's the next event on the campaign trail. Wesley Clark endorsing Hillary Clinton is what it is. He was not going to endorse Senator Obama anyway. I don't get the problem you are having with the front page.
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John from Brooklyn, NY
Sep 16th 2007 at 7:41 pm EDT
Although I don't agree that "the next event on the campaign trail" always deserves to be the lead story on the front page, I do see that the Harkin Steak Fry was an important opportunity to demonstrate organizational strength in Iowa and thus was worth promoting for a day or so.
My larger point goes to the question of what a campaign Web site is for. Surely, the whole point of the lead story, News, Issues, BarackTV, and HQ Blog functions is that they are to work together to educate, persuade, and inspire existing and prospective supporters with the best-quality information, news, and opinion about Barack Obama, his campaign, and what he hopes to do as President.
At every moment, decisions must be made about WHICH information, news, and opinion best advances Obama's chances of getting to the White House. The collective impact of these decisions is the essence of message control. And the Clinton machine is supremely disciplined at it.
Whatever the merits of the Harkin Steak Fry video, the fact is, it was posted at the same moment as Clinton rolled out Clark's endorsement. And she is rolling out healthcare proposals tomorrow. Both of these appear more substantive -- more presidential -- than does Tom Harkin calling Barack Obama a rock star and an Obama logo made into a brand for a T-bone steak. Not that they necessarily are more substantive -- but they appear that way.
Again: Message control.
Which brings me back to my original question: What is the point of conducting a fairly extended interview with Samantha Power -- a respected Harvard foreign policy expert, a next-generation progressive, and an influential woman within Obama's campaign -- if only to bury it as a blog post that is already off the home page and that only a handful of people will ever see?
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Mehari
Sep 15th 2007 at 6:21 pm EDT
Clark's endorsement is NO NEWS. I like the guy but he worked for Clinton and more importantly he is from Arkansas. It would have taken extraordinary courage for him to endorse Obama given the above facts. Colin Powell's recent comment describing Obama "A TRANSFORMATIONAL CANDIDATE" is a much more significant news than Clark's news given Powell is not even a democrat.
In the coming months many people are to endorse our candidate or the other candidates depending on their policy,geographic affiliation or friendship. And not all endorsements are significant;some are more important than others.
Each time somebody endorses Hillary we can't get nervous, doubtful and question Obama's qualification. Especially, Leuvonia few months ago you raised your doubts frequently but I thought we reassured you and you were fully on board. Now your doubt is reemerging again.
Again my advice is RELAX!!
Keep your eyes on the prize!!
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Nancy M.
Sep 15th 2007 at 7:45 pm EDT
Mehari, thanks for mentioning that about Colin Powell. I had not been aware of that comment so I did a google search and found an article on the interview.
Double thanks because I am using a comment from that article in my personal fundraising letter.
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Carol-STL-MO
Sep 15th 2007 at 1:47 am EDT
A true visionary -- extrordinary
A working team with true vision -- brilliant
Ms Powers is a real asset to the Obama campaign
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JohnAbdulMalikShabazzHussein From Reno
Sep 15th 2007 at 2:41 am EDT
Is there some published detailed set of Obama's logic behind his opposition to the war on Iraq ? I would like to see what his reasoning was. Myself and a friend of mine from Ethiopia actually supported this mistaken path of the war on Iraq due to our attitudes toward Sadaam Hussein. Both of us now recognize the fallacy of this. I want a president who can protect us from narrowness of thought that revenge can create. We need someone who can apply wisdom and pragmatism to our actions in the world. We are truly blessed by the Creator to have someone like Barack Obama to step up and make the sacrifices needed to become our president. Between him and his incredible wife they could live a very comfortable life far from the spot light. Instead they have given us a chance to move forward in the 21st century by sacrificing their privacy in this effort and becoming the conduits of common sense we desperately need. Brains in the White House again !! If for some reason the American people are bamboozled, I would definitely hope that Barack would take the third party route. There is no other choice that can restore this country and move us ahead. Thank you Samantha for your wisdom.
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Diamond -- IrishAmericansForObama
Sep 15th 2007 at 12:20 pm EDT
John, I believe Barack's speech at the 2002 anti-war rally explains his opposition to the war.
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The answer to your question might be the quotes in bold.
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Athena
Sep 15th 2007 at 10:58 am EDT
This part of her statements is especially compelling to me:
"Or occasionally, rarely, perhaps once in a lifetime, somebody comes along who so ignites the imagination and convinces you of their potential and their leadership and you say, ok forget your day job, this is more important."
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Slim
Sep 15th 2007 at 11:32 am EDT
Well defined language...I will send this to all of my friends.
Change |
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Strong Heart
Sep 14th 2007 at 8:29 pm EDT
Delia Y. just got home.
What's Going On...
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Strong Heart
Sep 14th 2007 at 8:31 pm EDT
War...
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Strong Heart
Sep 14th 2007 at 8:33 pm EDT
Blowing In The Wind...
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Strong Heart
Sep 14th 2007 at 8:34 pm EDT
Sorry, Blowing In The Wind...
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Foreigner
Sep 14th 2007 at 9:04 pm EDT
Did you see this, Strong Heart? Inspired by you:-)
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Delia Y.
Sep 14th 2007 at 10:09 pm EDT
Thanks, Foreigner! That was a great find. Did'nt really know Senator Obama's preferences in music. Beautiful ecletic taste and marvelous choices from a wide of music genres . . . from Miles Davis and John Coltrane to JS Bach. Fabulous!. Thanks, for pitching in and assisting Maestro Strong Heart! Vaya con Dios, Delia Y.
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Delia Y.
Sep 14th 2007 at 10:04 pm EDT
Dear Strong Heart:
Elation!!! Joy!!! Wonderful!! The trilogy!
What an infusion of inspiration! Nothing uplifts like music. Nothing communicates like lyrics laid down to masterful music!! Thank you, thank you, for the concert. This performance by Marvin Gaye is superb . . . he's at the keyboards no less. And Edwin Starr's vocals are as resounding and riveting as thunder. I'm glad you posted the duet of Joan Baez and Bob Dylan; they performed so many times on the same bill. Thank you for getting in and supplying this blog's daily dose of adrenalin!! Now, we fired up, and ready to go!! Delia Y.
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Strong Heart
Sep 14th 2007 at 10:10 pm EDT
Every society on earth has three things in common, Myth, Music, and Children...
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Carol-STL-MO
Sep 15th 2007 at 1:50 am EDT
Beautiful
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Carol-STL-MO
Sep 15th 2007 at 1:55 am EDT
Strong Heart,
Do you ever get the feeling that Obama is going to give us a 4th reason ???? --- I do
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Strong Heart
Sep 15th 2007 at 7:20 am EDT
Hope!!!
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MarkieBee
Sep 14th 2007 at 8:36 pm EDT
...with Samantha Power...tell me more about foreign policy Sam (heavy sigh).
Man, what a post! She's so dead on, as is Obama. Once people start paying attention they'll see that Obama is telling people what they need to hear and not necessarily what they want to hear. That is so refreshing. For Obama to tell the auto execs that they need to suck it up and help out the environment even if that means a short-term hit to the bottom line was risky but I bet you he earned their respect. To tell a large group of African Americans that there are some black cultural problems they need to deal with rather than always playing the victim was extremely risky, but I bet you they listened and he earned their respect.
Perhaps Ms. Power can get out from behind the scenes and start appearing on talk shows across the country to basically say the exact same things she mentioned here in this post. I think her words are Power-ful, but most importantly, they're the truth. And the Barack will set you free.
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Sharon
Sep 14th 2007 at 8:50 pm EDT
Markie: I agree! Get Samantha on Meet the Press!
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Foreigner
Sep 14th 2007 at 9:08 pm EDT
She put it very well, I thought
"... Principle, rigor, and inspiration don’t usually come in the same package..."
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Carol-STL-MO
Sep 15th 2007 at 1:52 am EDT
She certainly did
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Sharon
Sep 14th 2007 at 8:39 pm EDT
I think this should be mandatory reading for every U.S. citizen. Not only does it remind us of the courage it took to denounce the war in the first place, it reminds us that Barack Obama now has the foresight to plan for the humanitarian needs when we leave, whether it be now or 10 years from now.
I have not forgotten how it felt to be opposed to this war from the beginning. I remember feeling that it was going to be a disaster of tremendous proportion and that George Bush would go down in history as the worst president this nation has ever seen. I remember being called unpatriotic for expressing these views. I remember being called anti american because I didn't want to see American lives lost every day on the evening news.
It is Barack Obama's wisdom and courage that draw me to this campaign. I liken it to a "calling", because I can't stand back and not try to help this candidate get to the White House where we need him so greatly.
As I head out for tomorrows canvassing activities and BBQ for Barack, I will take these thoughts with me.
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Jeff Larson
Sep 15th 2007 at 1:01 am EDT
Hi Sharon,
I remember also what it was like. I was sick with worry at all the risks that Washington leaders were willing to ignore in order to go after the mythical WMD. By late 2002 I was reading foreign web sites for news more than American news outlets because somehow American media seemed blind to many relevant facts.
The only bright light in the whole time was when I got to hear Barack Obama and Studs Terkel in person at Federal Plaza in Chicago. I've never forgotten how great his speech was. (
Link
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I wanted to be a witness to the truth in a time of overwhelming war hysteria. And I promised myself I could never support anyone who voted to authorize force in Iraq. I remember how bad it was and how many Dem leaders caved (Kerry, Clinton, Edwards, etc.). I've kept my promise so far...
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Carol-STL-MO
Sep 15th 2007 at 2:02 am EDT
Sharon,
When you head out tomorrow ( with that "calling" in your mind & spirit) ---you're certainly going to have a successful, great day.
Positive feelings --- bring positive results !!!
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Sharon
Sep 15th 2007 at 7:59 pm EDT
Hi Jeff and Carol: Thanks for your comments. I am looking forward to the "Countdown to Change" event in DC on Tuesday. It will be my first event where Barack Obama is speaking. I'm very excited to have my battery re-charged with inspiration! Have a good weekend.
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Carol-STL-MO
Sep 16th 2007 at 7:56 pm EDT
Sharon,
Hope you are enjoying a wonderful week-end also.
Vital |
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Jennifer Hussein White ----"On to the White House with Senators Obama/Biden"
Sep 14th 2007 at 8:40 pm EDT
How can we distrubute/circulate this Q&A of Samantha Powers in every county throughtout the country?
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Betsy Butler
Sep 15th 2007 at 12:46 am EDT
We can email links to the Samantha Power interview page to our local, and regional, and national newspapers! If a newspaper has a web page they generally have a contact page where they list email addresses for their newsroom /editors / reporters.
It's probably a good idea to write a short note with your link...tell them why you think this interview is important for their readers to know about!
I plan to send out bunches!!
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Sam Graham-Felsen
Sep 15th 2007 at 12:10 pm EDT
Great idea Betsy -- you can also join groups and add friends on my.BarackObama.com and make sure they see it as well by sending it along to them!
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shawnmarie
Sep 15th 2007 at 3:38 pm EDT
Great interview with Ms. Powers Sam. I think it's remarkable that someone with her qualities, talent, and views that when she speaks of meeting Obama for the first time she spoke of leaving her day job to work for him because of the impact he had on her!
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Strong Heart
Sep 14th 2007 at 8:46 pm EDT
A superpower is coming on the scene, a power to fight poverty, a power to fight illness, a power that fights indifference that will make a difference, a power that will convey peace and not convoy war, The Power Of The People!!!
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Sharon
Sep 14th 2007 at 8:52 pm EDT
Yes!
And thanks for all of the wonderful music links. They are great inspiration.
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Carol-STL-MO
Sep 15th 2007 at 2:16 am EDT
Strong Heart,
I'm a music lover ( have a great system at home--)& years ago use to have a huge record collection).
Just wanted to let you know ( even though I do NOT have speakers/audio on my current computer) I hear the music you play for us---I hear it with my soul.
Yes (Before you ask) my favorite is Jazz !!
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Asmeret, a proud member of the Millennium Movement that will deliver Obama to the White House
Sep 14th 2007 at 8:50 pm EDT
Hi everyone,
For the first time I am speechless.I have been campaigning since he declared his candidacy and I am seeing the fruits of my labour.Every Obama supporter I spoke to, are promoting him to their family and friends and all I hear and see is how Obama has inspired them,so much so some are now taking an active role in their community for the first time and starting voter registration drives just like Obama during his community organizer days.
I am speechless as I am seeing history in the making.I am getting nothing but positive energy and most crucially,POSITIVE ACTION!
These people know what is at stake here.They keep saying time and time again after they got to know his life story and achievements so far,HE IS THEIR LEADER-NOT JUST THEIR PRESIDENT BUT THEIR LEADER!
A BORN LEADER WHO IS CONNECTING WITH THE PEOPLE.
HISTORY IS IN THE MAKING AND IT IS SO HUMBLING TO TALK TO THESE PEOPLE ABOUT THEIR STORIES,FEARS BUT THEIR HOPE,WOW IM SPEECHLESS,THEIR HOPE IS WHAT HUMBLES ME.
PRESIDENT OBAMA KNOWS THIS IS WHAT DRIVES PEOPLE
HOPE FOR THE FUTURE NO MATTER HOW BLEAK THE PRESENT.
HOPE COUPLED WITH UNITY, INTELLIGENCE,ETHICS, SOUND JUDGEMENT,EMPATHY AND COURAGE IN THE FACE OF ADVERSITY.
OH MY LORD AS I WRITE THIS I JUST SAW OBAMA IN A RERUN OF AN ABC REPORT ABOUT MOVE-ONS GENERAL 'BETRAY US'PETRAUS ADVERT IN NEW YORK TIMES.
President Obama is already written in our hearts.
HOW MUCH COURAGE DOES AMERICANS HAVE TO MAKE IT REALITY? IM ALREADY WITNESSING IT.
:)
Asmeret
IN OBAMA WE TRUST
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Sep 14th 2007 at 9:20 pm EDT
There we go. Giuliani attacks Clinton in first Web ad using Hillary's flip-flops against her.
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Sep 14th 2007 at 9:48 pm EDT
Clinton, Obama and the "Trust" Factor
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Sep 14th 2007 at 9:56 pm EDT
The thing is... he's not really calling attention to her real flip-flop. He's not calling attention to the fact that she is now saying she wanted Bush to continue with diplomacy, even when she did not support the Levin amendment.
I actually have no problem with someone voting against the war and now not believing that staying in is the right thing to do. This ad is calling HIllary unpatriotic and saying she doesn't support our troops because she wants to end this war.
Believe me, I really do not like Hillary Clinton, and in my opinion, the only thing worse than Hillary Cinton as president would be any of the republicans.
But saying she doesn't support the troops because she wants to end the war now... well, our candidate wants to end the war now, and I wouldn't want to see an ad that says he doesn't support the troops because he thinks it's wrong to stay there.
There are enough actual flip flops out there to choose from - you'd think they could actually use a real one in their ad.
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Sep 14th 2007 at 9:57 pm EDT
sorry - paragraph to should have said "voting for the war"...
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Sep 14th 2007 at 10:09 pm EDT
The thing is...the more the Republican attack Hilary, the more the Democrats will surround her and cover her. Attacking her is what the Reps will do, because that will insure Hilary will be the nominee. That's how Kerry got picked last time, cause the Reps went after him, and the Dems thought he would be the best candidate to beat Bush on his Military record.
Don't take too much comfort that the Reps are attacking Hilary. She embraces it, because she knows the more attack she gets, the more support is generated for her.
That's why it's a bad idea for Obama to attack her. She is hoping he would. So she can get the sympathy votes AND smear him for his "politics of hope".
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Sep 14th 2007 at 10:38 pm EDT
Yes, the true-believer progressives will rally around Hillary whenever the Rs attack her.
However, the majority of voters are not true-believer progressives. These ads just might have some impact with the general voting public.
I agree with that link posted just above on the "trust" factor. If her problems aren't aired in the primaries and she wins because of that, you can bet they'll be aired in the general election.
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Sep 15th 2007 at 12:29 pm EDT
I think that this is the best thing that could happen to Obama. Having Clinton and Giuliani get into a p*$&ing contest means that she gets taken down without Obama having to even tread close to the line of going negative. It also is good for the general election campaign because Obama can come out of the primaries a non-weakened candidate. He will not have had to undergo the attacks that Republicans can capitalize on because they have been too busy attacking Hillary. So I say, let 'em fight!
Rick
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Sep 15th 2007 at 1:49 pm EDT
Rick,
Looking at the past, my prediction is she will try to make it work in her favor. When it is convenient she is the "experienced" "tough" leader. Other times she is the victim (she may even ask for more money for being attacked; you remember the "cleavage" story?)like the pentagon official, Rove etc.. attacking her because they afraid of her or something...Pretty much her spin is predictable and it may continue to fool some people making them sympathetic towards her. By the way that is why I am against calling any of the oponnents names like "liar" etc. We can hold them accountable by just stating their flaws without the mud.
Keep your eyes on the prize!!
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Sep 15th 2007 at 3:51 pm EDT
I think Rudy going after her is more like from one front runner to the other type thing. Like it's already down to her and him(imo). But I also think you're right that when attacking her she does seem to get the victim pass alot. And while Hilary is calling on Bush to end this war, Obama is calling for action now between the two parties to get something done on Iraq. Hilary herself and her ad not that long ago in IA said Bush thinks Americans are invisible. Then why is she calling on Bush who she knows doesn't listen anyway, it's like beating a dead horse. And Obamas plan could start now rather than later, realistically set to reach out to both parties and do something now.
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Sep 15th 2007 at 4:13 pm EDT
Of course she will, because that's what the Clintons do. But I don't think it'll work for her this time. She won't get much sympathy voting from Democrats who are being attacked by Republicans. But she can get taken down and get even higher negative ratings from those Republican attacks.
By the way, I agree with your thoughts about calling people liars. It had better be pretty doggone airtight evidence that it occurred before zipping that charge on anyone.
Rick
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Sep 15th 2007 at 4:36 pm EDT
Rick-Please explain what thoughts I had on calling any one liars?? I don't recall but please explain???
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Sep 15th 2007 at 4:39 pm EDT
I would appreciate an explanation??
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Sep 15th 2007 at 4:49 pm EDT
Many times I will request a polite response and will not receive one. That is fine and Im ok with it, but to accuse me of something Rick, I don't think is justified with out atleast a follow up??
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Sep 15th 2007 at 5:01 pm EDT
Shawnmarie, maybe Rick is not signed on right now, so I will jump in with my take on this. I think Rick was responding to Mehari - see the post just above yours with comments about calling people liars.
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Sep 15th 2007 at 5:19 pm EDT
Nancy-yes, I re read Meharis post. When I replied I did not state names because I was repying to both Rick and Meharis posts. The confusion I had is Rick replied under my post and not under Meharis. Thank you for pointing that out.
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Sep 15th 2007 at 6:29 pm EDT
Shawnmarie,
Sorry for the misunderstanding. We were not refering to you what so ever. I was just using a generic example of how some people may attack and why that could backfire. Please, I enjoy reading comments and we are on the same team.
Keep your eyes on the prize!!
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Sep 15th 2007 at 6:32 pm EDT
I meant "enjoy reading YOUR comments"
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Sep 16th 2007 at 2:22 pm EDT
Mehari-I apologize for my confusion. And I enjoy reading your posts very much as well. thank you -shawn marie.
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Sep 15th 2007 at 10:25 pm EDT
Hi, shawnmarie!
Sorry for the confusion. I was indeed replying to Mehari's post, and not to yours. If you look you will see that any replies to a post are not only underneath but also indented. And I signed off shortly afterwards, so I just now read what you wrote. Hope this clears everything up.
Rick
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Sep 16th 2007 at 2:24 pm EDT
HI Rick-I want to apologize for my confusion. As Nancy M pointed it out I see where I made my error. I appreciate your repsponse and yes I too overlooked you indenting. thank you -shawn marie
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Sep 14th 2007 at 9:25 pm EDT
We need people like you Samantha to bring about other perspectives that will help people listen. War is madness especially when you have a leader who is arrogant and stubborn with no concerns for the death and destruction he causes.
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Sep 15th 2007 at 2:29 am EDT
Danielle,
Agree,
So many people are caught up in their own everyday life & way of thinking its hard to see a new perspective. It almost like we've become hardened (or walk around with "blinders" on )to remove ourselves from the madness.
Obama certainly DOES open our minds, hearts, spirits & souls up again --- to what we can & should be !!!
Most importantly to me --- what we WILL be !!!!
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Sep 14th 2007 at 9:41 pm EDT
I have been doing at least 6 events a week in the month of september. Sunday i have three in one day. I'll be in newark delaware from 10am till noon then onto parksburg Pa and then back to delaware county pa for the grand opening of our new democratic party office.
Its really important to get out. Today i volunteered with a philadelphia civic group where 500 block captains came together. I was able to speak to many and give them information on the upcoming rally on october 30th for the democratic debates.
Please everyone know we have to get out. Talk to everyone but do it with open ears. Become friends. Get back to them with information not attitudes.
This is our campaign and only we can do it if we put everything we can into it. Own this campaign and own your neighborhood and own our future. Don't listen to polls and just keep on moving forward.
Well its been a long day. 7:30 till 2pm and then 3pm till 9pm loading names and emails and blogging and responding to blogs and calling people.
Remember we now have the ability to reach our neighbors by phone through barackobama.com Use this link but before you do re-read samantha's response.
Click here
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to make calls all day long tomorrow until your change event.
And every name you get post it here
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Sep 14th 2007 at 10:02 pm EDT
Danielle, I haven't made any calls yet, but I checked the link you posted. I don't see anywhere to say that someone has decided to vote for Obama without making their name public. I suspect I'm missing something here, but I would think they would want to know about the people who are planning to vote for him, even if they don't want to be active in the campaign.
P.S. I am constantly amazed by everything you are doing for this campaign. Thank you so much!
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Sep 14th 2007 at 11:41 pm EDT
Danielle--
You should be a delagate to the convention
AND
You should get an invitation to the inaguration.
in my humble opinion.
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Sep 15th 2007 at 2:36 am EDT
Danielle,
You're an inspiration to all of us !!
If everyone worked even a fraction for Obama's campaign as much as you do ---he'd already be in the White House !!!!
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Sep 14th 2007 at 10:22 pm EDT
I know this is off-topic, but...
Article: Appeals court overturns 'Jena 6' conviction
Excerpt:
HOUSTON - With the prospect of a major national civil rights protest looming next week in the central Louisiana town of Jena, a state appeals court on Friday abruptly vacated the felony conviction of a black teenager accused of beating a white student in a case fraught with racial tensions.
Louisiana's Third Circuit Court of Appeals, acting on an emergency defense appeal, reversed the aggravated second-degree battery conviction of Mychal Bell, 17, ruling that the youth had been tried improperly as an adult in a case that has raised allegations of unequal justice in the small, mostly white town.
It's a long article, but here's how they ended it:
On Thursday, Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama added his criticism of what he termed the "excessive charges" in the case.
"When nooses are being hung in high schools in the 21st century, it's a tragedy," Obama said in a statement. "It shows that we still have a lot of work to do as a nation to heal our racial tensions. This isn't just Jena's problem; it's America's problem."
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Sep 14th 2007 at 10:31 pm EDT
Yes Nancy it was all over the radio today and much praise went out to our Senator for his leadership. We are still going down to Jena on the 20th because the fight is not over, but I do want to thank everyone for all the support, everyone came together to battle this injustice and shed light on it. And Senator Clinton release her statement on it to today oops! late to the party again. The AA community found out who the true leader is this week.
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Delia Y.
Sep 14th 2007 at 10:33 pm EDT
Thank you, Nancy, for posting this very important story for everyone who loves justice. We must always remember, "no justice, no peace." Delia Y.
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Lorraine
Sep 14th 2007 at 10:35 pm EDT
Senator Obama is always doing the right thing. Just like he did in the Duke Lacrosse Rape case. He wrote that Nifong should be investigated way before it actually happened. I didn't hear another Presidential candidate weight in on a this case. I wonder why?
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Sep 14th 2007 at 11:04 pm EDT
Cost Of Freedom...
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Sep 15th 2007 at 2:08 am EDT
Hi Nancy ~
I heard the wwonderful news earlier today myself! It isn't over yet but a small success is better than this young man spending the next 20 to 80 years in prison! All of the young men and their families are in my thoughts and prayers. I believe justice will prevail! I am so glad to know that Senator Obama said something about the injustice but I'm not surprised.
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Sep 14th 2007 at 10:42 pm EDT
Samantha Power's willingness to share her remarkable capacity with Barack's remarkable capacity makes me speechless and wordless. Her analysis of his strengths are so exquisite and the words so revealing of his character and judgement. Those of us in awe already are now in double & triple awe. Thank-you Samantha for so courageously joining his amazing journey. We--the people--are so blessed to have you both.
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Sep 15th 2007 at 12:20 am EDT
I love this woman!
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Sep 14th 2007 at 11:16 pm EDT
Samantha, you are an amazing woman and a tremendous asset to our team!
You understand, like we do, that Barack has the unique perspective to look at the world through different eyes - his experiences gives him empathy for those in other countries that most of our other leaders can't come close to possessing. And by opposing the war, Barack has more credibility in regards to ending this tragedy than the other main contenders, all of whom embraced this war to some degree.
With Barack Obama as president, America can stop being an arrogant bully, and start being the leader of the free world again.
Military Mum for Obama |
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Sep 14th 2007 at 11:39 pm EDT
I love this story. It was so moving. The military mums are following suit. They are loving Obama.
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Lorraine
Sep 15th 2007 at 12:19 am EDT
Thanks for posting this personal account of one of the most Patriot Americans we have. Because the families of our brave men and women are fighting our War in Iraq too.
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Sep 15th 2007 at 2:42 am EDT
Tony,
They believe in Obama & know that he WILL bring their sons & daughters home safely.
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Sep 15th 2007 at 12:13 am EDT
John Nichol's column in the Nation is excellent.
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(Eisenhower) "the man who, recognizing the folly of turning the Cold War into a hot fight, campaigned for the presidency in 1952 on a promise to end the bloodshed on the Korean Peninsula -- and, when elected, did so quickly and honorably.
To those who suggested in 1953 that it was necessary to wage an endless ground and air war against Chinese communists who were portrayed as being every bit as diabolical as the targets of the "war on terror," Eisenhower responded, "Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. [...] This is not a way of life at all in any true sense. Under the clouds of war, it is humanity hanging on a cross of iron."
Senator Obama understands just as Samantha Powers said how war affects real lives as did Eisenhower.
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Sep 15th 2007 at 12:41 am EDT
I second the motion to place Samantha Power in a more visible role in this campaign. People *need* to hear this.
Samantha, PLEASE go on any and every news show you possibly can. Stephen Colbert would be a great start, and definitely Hardball and Larry King.
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Sep 15th 2007 at 2:21 am EDT
I saw Samantha Powers on Hardball this week and she is a strong voice for Senator Obama's Foreign Policy stategy and she didn't allow Matthews to misrepresent what he said. She is very good at holding her ground and not holding back when an interviewer is wrong. Firm and direct! She did and excellent job at presenting Barack's position!
I look forward (I hope) to seeing more of her on the media circuit.
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Sep 15th 2007 at 9:53 am EDT
I'm sorry I missed Samantha. I've been waiting for her to make an appearance and I missed both - Hardball and Tucker.
Samantha, I hope that you spend more time talking to the traditional media. I not only look forward to seeing you out there explaining Sen. Obama's foreign policy position, but I also look forward to you having a visible position in his administration. You are wonderful. It's so nice to hear an intelligent and rational voice. We haven't had that in a long time (on either side).
I just get so excited thinking about all the intelligent fresh faces Sen. Obama will bring to our government. Wow! What a wonderful thing to look forward to. I even look forward to some coming back who haven't been around for a long time (Dr. Susan Rice, Dr. Zbig Brezinski, etc.).
What a great fresh start our country will have with President Obama and his cabinet and staff of new and fresh intelligent, trustworthy and honest Americans. I can't wait.
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Sep 15th 2007 at 12:18 pm EDT
Wow! We need to see more of her. Here's a link to her Tucker interview.
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Sep 15th 2007 at 12:40 pm EDT
You know what I found interesting? There was no pontification from Mr. Carlson with her. It seemed quite obvious to me that he respected her quite highly. And while he did try to spin things as he always does, he had stoppe ddoing so by the end of the interview. She actually forced him into being a journalist instead of a mouthpiece. Good stuff.....
Rick
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Sep 15th 2007 at 12:57 pm EDT
The mustard seeds have spoken, and they ring true!
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Sep 15th 2007 at 2:51 pm EDT
Thanks for posting the link. Some people are articulate when they write, but not when they speak. Others are articulate when speaking, but don't do well in an interview situation. Samantha is truly amazing - incredibly bright, a great writer, a great speaker, and boy was she great in that interview!
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Sep 15th 2007 at 9:02 am EDT
She was on Tucker Thursday. Extremely impressive, Sam P for VP!?
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Sep 15th 2007 at 2:55 pm EDT
She was great in this interview. Good job.
Great talent for Obama's Administration.
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Sep 15th 2007 at 12:57 am EDT
If we Democrats elect Hillary as the nominee this is what the General election is goona be about.Since shes running on his experience and accomplishments she has to take the good with the bad.
1.Bills Infedelities (you know the names.)
2.Bills failure to capture Osama bin Laden, after having several chances.
3.Her invovlement with Whitewater +all the other so called scandals
4.Her decision to vote for the Iraq War
5.Her lack of judgement And her speach made before her vote saying Iraq and Alqaeda had connections, though that very report she didnt stated clearly no connection.
6.Norman Hsu
7.Lincoln bed room and all the other money fueled scandals.
8.Allegations she hired She has so much Private Investigators to harass bills girlfriends
Hillary has so much baggage by Nov independants and moderate repubs are gonna be so turned off theyll vote for the independant candidate or the republican.
I hope im wrong but i know im right. And you Know it as well.
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Sep 15th 2007 at 1:01 am EDT
I was suprise to know that SUSAN RICE was advising Obama, She needs to be Obamas spokesperson, she will smash Wolfson, we need to petition this campaign to have her on these media shows speaking for Obama.
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Sep 15th 2007 at 5:03 am EDT
You are 100% right !! It would be the most negative, divisive presidential election in history. Really offering NO HOPE. Thank God it is not going to happen. I am pleased that Rudy is getting so nasty so quick, it give Dems a taste of how it will be if she is nominated. Tis has been the worst two weeks of Hill's campaign (Hsu) I really think it has given democrats pause..
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Sep 15th 2007 at 9:04 am EDT
I agree and Rudy is giving us a glimpse of what kind of campaign he will run. More attack ads more division, this has to stop.
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Sep 15th 2007 at 1:10 am EDT
I am posting a link to this daily post because it gave me a good understanding of how the democratic IA caucuses work and how winning it has nothing to do with the polls irrespective of how accurate they are at predicting actual support for the campains. The blogger provided this piece of information: "...Keep in mind that in the 2004 Iowa Caucuses, only 124,000 voters turned out. If Obama can turn out 50,000 to the caucuses, he’ll win it outright...." This piece of information is vital in designing a winning strategy in IA. As the blogger stated it if the turnout is similar to 2004 all the campaign has to do is have 50000 supporter come out to caucus. If one campain can do this it is the Obama campaign given the intensity level in support for this campaign and its superior ground organization.
After reading this blog i understand better the strategy of this campain and i am confident Obama has good chance of winning IA. A win IA will unlock all the door by firing up all the voters that on the fence thinking that a black man cannot win. The campain would be on fire at that point and would not be stopped.
Folks please do no longer pay attention to the polls. they are irrelevant. The game is to motivate 75000+ iowans to turn out to caucus.
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Sep 15th 2007 at 12:45 pm EDT
Og, I liked the fact that you raised the bar at the end. Getting 75000 Iowans to caucus for Obama would send a HUGELY powerful message that would undoubtedly have a ripple effect later on in the primary season. But I think that the strategy needs one other little wrinkle.
I believe that we need to keep increasing the number of Native Iowans in the Iowa campaign. Remember that one of the things that turned Iowans off from Dean was the fact that so many non-residents came over to work for them. While people from every walk of life are important, if we have large numbers of Iowans stumping for Obama, I believe that it will have an effect far greater than large numbers of folks from other states canvassing for him. The trick, as always, is how to go about it. So, my fellow bloggers, any ideas on how to make that happen????
Rick
Rick
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Sep 15th 2007 at 3:10 pm EDT
Rick-I think you bring up a very good point. I see many IA posters post good stories as we also see the blog articles from IA about the residents intereacting with campaign a Obama. I remember to the Dean crowd, and believing at the time even the endorsements meant alot. And I don't mean to be repetitive in this questioning, but if Mich goes Jan 15, even though we have same primary laws as NH, all together different from IA, does any one think that whatever the outcome, it will have any effect on IA. I know Iowa is very dedicated and independent in their choices, but with the undecided(independents %) factor I wonder if it will matter?
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Sep 15th 2007 at 1:51 pm EDT
Rick B:
I factored in a 50% increase in voter turnout which is way too much.....
Alsol here is an exchange on the above blog that answers your concerns about not overwhelming iowans with outsiders. This indicates that the campain has it figured out:
Can someone tell me how Iowans feel (4+ / 0-)
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about outsiders coming to their state to promote a candidate? I'm in NYC, and planning to go to NH, but have wondered about taking a week for Iowa at some point. Do Iowans resent it, or would the presence of a New Yawka be of some value?
Oh, and I loved the students for Obama video--I hadn't seen it before.
Kossacks for Obama
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I just talked to someone who has been (13+ / 0-)
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to Ia. a few times from here in Il.---he said the Obama campaign is so organized and great to work with in Ia. and they are always paired with an Iowan----someone from the community where they're working----who knows the ropes and the streets etc.----and thus eliminates any possible resentments of "outsiders" coming in to tell them how to vote----which they really don't do---it's more of an interview----to locate the Obama supporters---much like the moveon operation during the 06 campaign. he enjoyed it---is going again this weekend and a bunch from here are going to the Harkin steak fry.
I plan to go within the next few weeks---looking forward to it---want to feel like I've done all I can to make it happen for Obama.
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Shoot for the moon. If you miss, you will still land among the stars.....
Rick
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Sep 15th 2007 at 1:28 am EDT
Here is an excellent article with Samatha in it on Obama and Foreign Policy from Washington Monthly.
It was from last spring. It is such an excellent read.
The article had me rivited to it.
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Sep 15th 2007 at 1:38 am EDT
I wanted to add. Samatha talks about the time of the run up to war. i remember when the talk first started and the lump in my stomach. But, I well remember that time and the herd mentality. Maybe because during that time I was scared to death for my mom. They were heavily bashing the french. My mom is from France. there was a French resturant in the neighborhood that got seriously vandalized and my mom lived alone with her accent and all. I was so afraid for her.
My mom hated Bush. We all did. Actually I really disliked him until that time when I really hated him. I hated what he did to my country, that he made my family wary, that he made people afraid.
I have always been a staunch democrat but, I kept thinking about Reagan. I never liked him. But, I kept thinking, Reagan, a republican, would not know his party today. And he would not have acted this way. He would not have taken away our civil rights, spat on the constitution or ruled by fear.
But, aside from Nixon, I don't think any president would have done as Bush.
And I think it is why in July of 04 at the Democratic Convention, Obama's words, which are normally so powerful, made such a seering impact on us.
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Sep 15th 2007 at 2:18 am EDT
Great article - Obama is fortunate to have her involved
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Sep 15th 2007 at 2:46 am EDT
VWCAT,
Agree
Excellent article
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Heather
Sep 15th 2007 at 3:16 am EDT
vwcat ~
What a supremely written piece! It is so profound and the depth of understanding of foreign policy and what our place in the world was before "W" got his grimy hands on it and what it can be again is just amazing. Funny, I've been pouring over past administrations foreign policies and this was just what I needed to bring things into focus and better understand the mess that were in now. Thank you!
Guide line for leadership!! |
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Sep 15th 2007 at 2:19 am EDT
Choose for each of your government individuals who are wise, discerning, and reputable to be your leaders. Deuternomy 1:13 That's God' guide line for leadership, Senator Obama was right about the war question from the very start, while others voted for the war without fully reading the National Intelligence Estimate, which had even the Chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee voted against, after he had read the NIE report. Leaders are not myopic and are not afarid to talk with other nations, even to those who are considered hostile to us. Senator Obama, has shown he has the judgment to lead, and if there is one thing we can all learn from this war, it is, our leader must have good judgment.
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Sep 15th 2007 at 2:26 am EDT
Barack Obama was right in the beginning to call the war in Iraq what it was---and he's right again today in telling us how to get out of that idiotic situation.
I signed on with the OBAMA campaign in the beginning- and he made me PROUD again today!
Barack ROCKS! OBAMA 08!
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She makes an excellent point: it's hard for people to remember what the conventional wisdom of 2003 was. But computers don't forget, and the footage of all politicians rattling their sabers has to be lying around somewhere.
Does anyone know if there is a video with a quick succession of clips that show many candidates (with Sen. Obama last) explaining their "wisdom" about the war? That would be a powerful way of reminding folks how different of a candidate he is.
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Sep 15th 2007 at 2:28 am EDT
It is September which means the quarterly fund raising totals come out at the end of this month. If you can, dig deep again and make another contribution this month. Can we show the world that the numbers of June 2007 that blew everyone away was just a modest start?
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Sep 15th 2007 at 5:10 am EDT
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing ! I am doubling my last donation ! Barack certainly has a wider tent of supporters. It is VITAL that Barack continue to dominate the fund raising for 2008 !!!
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Sep 15th 2007 at 11:42 am EDT
Glad to hear others are thinking about this too.
I doubled mine too. I want to see the pundits' jaws dropping and this would definitely get more people asking about and talking about Sen. Obama.
I need to do more to get more people signed up though so they can get informed about him.
I started in Q1 and the campaign already seems long to me but I am in this for the long haul. I haven't seen a better chance for real change in Washington in my life (50 years).
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Sep 15th 2007 at 3:23 am EDT
I really like Samantha Powers and I agree with all that she says in the above interview. Now, I hate to sound like a pessimist, but Americans really don't seem to care about the humanitarian issues she is discussing...I am afraid that many Americans, even if they are against the war and similar aggressive foreign policy concepts and practices, in the end will support whatever appeases their fears and insecurities - that is why we are in this war in the first place - everyone blames the politicians, perhaps the media, but really, it is the American population that is to blame - this is our fault. We did not stand up for reason, we did not think for ourselves and challenge our government to actually work for us....we let them do what they wanted, and now we are complaining....I am afriad we will continue to do the same...yes, we have some freedom here, yes we can practice a bit of free speech, but we never exercise our main right...to challenge our government and tell them they should fear us, not the other way around. I fear America will give in again to fear and intellectual complacency. I fear we will again fail ourselves. We are already doing so by believing all this rhetoric about Iran - preparing for the next war, preparing to battle the next supposed boogeyman.
Sorry to sound cynical, but we have been doing this for decades...
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Sep 15th 2007 at 12:11 pm EDT
Hi FryStreet,
I share your concerns completely. We have some alarming attitudes in this country to overcome. Even many "anti-war" advocates seem to equate "pulling out the troops" with "ending the war". Even if we pulled out now it doesn't end the war, chaos or destruction for the Iraqis. So changing those attitudes is going to be like turning a battleship - slow.
I agree with nearly everything you say but when it comes to "We did not stand up for reason" I just want to assure you that there was a small minority of people attending rallies in Oct. 2002 who spoke out against the impending invasion. I was at just such a rally. Although I had never heard of him before, Obama was there laying out the truth.
If we can get Sen. Obama into the White House then maybe we can turn the battleship a little faster. At least we will have someone who shares our concerns and can be the focus for them.
So hang in there. Supporting Obama can only help this country.
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Sep 15th 2007 at 4:01 am EDT
I personally think that all of the national polls and even some of the early state polls that show that Hillary leads is a good thing for Obama.
Obama seems like he's strongest in the last couple of weeks in the campaign, and that's exactly when most of the Iowa and New Hampshire voters tend to make up their minds about a candidate.
I think that early leads are hard to maintain throughout the entire campaign with the expectations for the candidate being so high.
Not only that, but the media often tends to force-feed the voters about the inevitablility of a candidate, using the unreliable polls and their constant coverage as evidence...so much so that it seems to turns off the voters b/c they feel they are being forced to choose the candidate, and they look for something different...
I think that's what may have happened with Howard Dean and Dick Gephardt in 2004.
So I take this as good news that Obama is behind Hillary in polls, and I hope the media continues to shove her and her husband down our throats, so that come voting day, with all our grass-roots efforts and donations-both of which are unprecedented, AND of course EVERYONE'S prayers, come Primary election day in Iowa, Sen. Obama will win the Iowa primary and continue with unrelenting momentum to become the Democratic Nominee for President and not too long after, the 44th President of the United States.
I believe that with God, all of this is possible.
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Sep 15th 2007 at 5:17 am EDT
You took the words out of my mouth ! This has been an important week for the campaign, American"s are beginning to focus on the election and Barack has shined ALL WEEK.
Whereas, Hillary has had the most difficult week of her campaign so far (Hsu). Edwards, Bless his heart is doing EVERYTHING he can to get some attention. The polls will soon begin to change the closer we get to Iowa and NH. then it is a whole new ball game. If Edwards doesn't win Iowa, it is over for him. He will certainly endorse Barack, then it becomes a neck in neck race.
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Sep 15th 2007 at 4:45 am EDT
Beautiful article.I have HUGE respect for Samantha Power.
Go OBAMA 08!
Change |
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Sep 15th 2007 at 7:23 am EDT
Action for which I become responsible, or for which my administration becomes responsible, shall be within the law.
William Howard Taft
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Sep 15th 2007 at 7:24 am EDT
A government is for the benefit of all the people.
William Howard Taft
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Sep 15th 2007 at 7:25 am EDT
I am afraid I am a constant disappointment to my party. The fact of the matter is, the longer I am president the less of a party man I seem to become.
William Howard Taft
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Sep 15th 2007 at 7:26 am EDT
I've been to war, and it's not easy to kill. It's bloody and messy and totally horrifying, and the consequences are serious.
Oliver Stone
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Sep 15th 2007 at 4:00 pm EDT
As always great reminders Strong Heart of such truths.
From Jack and Jill - War Funding |
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Sep 15th 2007 at 8:06 am EDT
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QUOTE: ".... Rep. Barbara Lee is leading a group of 78 Members of the House of Representatives in telling the President that the only funding for the war they are planning to vote for will be funding that protects the troops and fully redeploys them in 2008....33 out of the 78 signers to the letter are members of the CBC. Rep. Lee wants to get to 100 signers which would be almost a fourth of the House itself.
Only a handful of black legislators have NOT signed the letter. Will someone in their family please call and ask them what their problem is?... " UNQUOTE
Genocide, War & Fair Play |
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Sep 15th 2007 at 8:11 am EDT
This is great news that the Senator will have another top category advisor. Genocide during the last and current century is a blotch on our history and must not be condoned nor repeated. Presidents, of both parties, by the way, have aided and abetted it by just doing nothing.
On another note and concerning possible harm to a general election campaign, Move On's ad in the "New York Times" is beyond the pale. George Bush, Cheney and the rest of the administration are certainly culpable regarding this fiasco in Iraq as are those in the Congress who voted for the war resolution.
However, to accuse a career miliary officer of "betraying" us is not only wrong, but can cause lasting damage amongst voters. The fact that not one Democratic candidate, including ours, has condemned this ad is a disgrace.
This country has propered for so long because, in part, we have kept politics and the military apart. General Petraeus did not declare war on Iraq, he is not responsible for a failed policy. By extension our troops are not either. This type of action by Move On will only polarize the elctorate against the Democratic Party and ensure the GOP has another term in the White House.
By not condemning this ad, the Democratic candidates, including Senator Obama, have, by their inaction, handed a slap in the face to all of those in the military who have served, been injured and/or lost their lives in Iraq. John Kerry is the only Democrat, so far, who has done the right thing. I am disgusted by the lack of condemnation by the Presidential candidates of the Democratic party.
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Sep 15th 2007 at 8:40 am EDT
Good post Joe.But one thing that disturbs me is why hasn`t Obama cosponsored resolution 106 to recognize the Armenian genocide?
While Hillary Clinton and Christopher Dodd cosponsors the resolution, Obama doesn`t.
How is this possible?
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Sep 15th 2007 at 11:14 am EDT
Unknown, right on target and good question.
So What |
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Sep 15th 2007 at 8:22 am EDT
Sundar, before Jazz it was the Blues...
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Sep 15th 2007 at 8:39 am EDT
Gospel Music, Jazz and the Blues; makes me want a hot dog and a piece of apple pie...
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Sep 15th 2007 at 6:31 pm EDT
Enjoyed that, Strong Heart. Thanks. Blues does create a terrific 'mood' doesn't it? ... Didn't know the name "T-Bone" before this. Sounds like he's a Legend!
In the Sai Baba ashram in India, we often hear concerts by a Dana Gillespie (I think she's a daughter of Dizzy Gillespie); and we come across an Isaac Tigrett also, who runs something called 'House of Blues' after selling 'Hard Rock Cafe'.
I enjoy the sound and style of Gospel singing very much. Sounds very rich, an ornate tapestry of voices, such dramatic depth of feeling, drawn from the intensity of hopelessness and suffering, turning to light and glory .... turning to an intimate and personal God, I feel.. Godbless!
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Joe in Vermont
Sep 15th 2007 at 8:34 am EDT
Danton, thanks for a moving post! As I've always said that somebody's kid, husband, wife, grandchild, friend and neighbot out there. That is the true tragedy of Iraq.
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Sep 15th 2007 at 9:39 am EDT
There has been many resolutions passed in the congress telling about the terrible things USA has done in it`s history.
While there is a genocide going on in Darfur and which Obama has condemned many times we should suddenly forget genocides which were committed in the beginning of the 20th century?
It`s ok to recognize the holocaust but it`s not ok to recognize other genocides?
Did you know that that the term genocide was coined by Raphael Lemkin after his research about the Armenian genocide?
And even the Anti Defamation League has recently recognized the Armenian genocide.
This is a very important issue for the Armenian community in USA.But it`s also a human rights issue.
Remember what Hitler said before the killing of Jews started:
"Who after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians"
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Sep 15th 2007 at 10:36 am EDT
Wounded Knee...
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Sep 15th 2007 at 10:45 am EDT
Ghost Dance...
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Sep 15th 2007 at 10:56 am EDT
Will We Ever Learn...
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Sep 15th 2007 at 10:58 am EDT
I speak my mind with my Heart!!!
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Sep 15th 2007 at 9:45 am EDT
For Greenpeace...
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Sep 15th 2007 at 9:56 am EDT
Mother Nature's Army!!!
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Sep 15th 2007 at 10:09 am EDT
what's going on ? (the British press perspective on our election):
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From The Times
September 15, 2007
Barack Obama tries to revive campaign with late push in opening state
Tim Reid in Dubuque, Iowa
Under a setting sun, with the barges of the Mississippi passing lazily behind him, Barack Obama is shouting – his arms raised, leaning towards the crowd of Iowans with the urgency of a man who knows time is running out.
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He turns to Iraq, a war Hillary Clinton voted to authorise in 2002. “I opposed this war in 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005 and 2006,” he continues. “The judgment that matters most is the judgment made first. Now is the time to be bold. Now is the time to turn the page on Iraq in a way to turn around our foreign policy!”
But with only four months until the crucial first Iowa caucuses, the opening votes in the contest to become the Democratic presidential candidate, Mr Obama knows that he has to turn around a campaign that has been stuck in neutral for months.
Despite the huge and enthusiastic crowds that Mr Obama continues to draw across America and his record-breaking fundraising feats, the Illinois senator has languished about 20 points behind Mrs Clinton in national Democratic polls since the spring.
The African American, blessed with charisma but dogged by accusations that he lacks the experience and foreign policy gravitas for the Oval Office, trails the former First Lady by 18 per cent in the first primary state of New Hampshire. He is well behind in South Carolina, another key early region that he had hoped to excel in because of its large black population.
But in Iowa, whose voters every four years become the first to deliver their often make-or-break verdicts on presidential contenders, Mr Obama is in a statistical tie with Mrs Clinton.
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His aim, aides say, is simple. If Mr Obama can win the Hawkeye State the race could be transformed. His strategy is simple: to convince enough voters that after 16 years of partisanship and division, a Clinton restoration will only prolong the dysfunction crippling national politics;
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Strange things happen in Iowa. John Kerry resurrected his moribund primary campaign here in 2004. Mr Obama told the crowd that he would be coming back often.
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Sep 15th 2007 at 11:41 am EDT
"The Times" is owned by Newscorp (read Rupert Murdoch, "NY Post"). If you want both a conservative and liberal Britsh newspaper, try the Daily Telegraph for the former and the Guardian for the latter. In general, both have good reporting and editorials agree with them or not. Murdoch's a HRC backer to my knowledge. Let me see what else is out there as it's rainy and cold Saturday in Vermont.
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Sep 15th 2007 at 11:47 am EDT
I read this article too, and after feeling sick to my stomach that people can write such non-sense, I laughed soooooo hard. To think that this campaign is on its last leg it utterly ridiculous.
This is Media Bias at its best no one is talking about how Hillary has been a no show in the press all week, hiding from her finance scandal. But the week that Obama gives a great withdrawal plan and questions the General, he is suddenly closing the curtains on his campaign. Give me a break
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Sep 15th 2007 at 11:08 am EDT
I just received an e-mail from my OBAMA OKC group and we are having our meet-up on September 4. I am so excited because someone from the campaign is coming and they are getting ready to set up the Obama campaign office here in Oklahoma.
We are one of the states that is holding their primary on Super Tuesday, February 5. I cannot wait to volunteer and show my support for Barack. I hope to be there for the grand opening.
OBAMA '08
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Sep 15th 2007 at 11:10 am EDT
Ooops. I meant to say September 20. I am so excited I can't type!
OBAMA '08
Iowa |
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Sep 15th 2007 at 11:15 am EDT
Hi its Laura again with good tidings from the state of Iowa. Its been some work, but Iowa is still a very positive state for Barack. The Des Moines register political writers seem to be really leaning for Barack and with the steak fry and Harkin who is obvoiusly a Barack fan happening tomarrow..well I can tell you that I still have not gotten any bad views of Barack. Only more and more leaners that have become vocal supporters since his speech on Iraq and his response to the general. I have a great REAL feeling that Barack will win Iowa. WE have a great group of grassroots supporters that are bringing voters to the caucus and even if I have to get a bus! and with the way it is going, we will need to get a bus. Wont they all be surprised when we come with a bus load of people to the caucus and the general election once Barack gets the nomination. The greatest thing is that they think we cant do it, it only pushes me work harder. And well, Barack Obama is really doing all the work, I just have to pass out the information!
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Sep 15th 2007 at 11:18 am EDT
Hello Laura,
Thanks for the information. It is great to hear things from your wonderful state. One question. Is there a significant amount of young people that are going to caucus for Barack?
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Laura Hubka ~From Iowa Where It Started and Will Continue~~~
Sep 15th 2007 at 11:25 am EDT
YES! actually most of my volunteers are 18-24 years old. They are much more involved and vocal about it. The older crowd seems to smile when they talk about Barack and want to do more, but just are of the same crowd I am from. Scared that somehow they will be dissappointed in the end. The young people are all about spreading the word and about being involved in saving the world in which they will be living in for years to come!
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Sep 15th 2007 at 1:03 pm EDT
Laura,
Good Afternoon, Dear.
Thanks for the incredible UPDATE on all things Senator Obama in the Hawkeye State!
Keep up the EXCELLENT work!
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Sep 15th 2007 at 11:13 am EDT
"With every new YouTube video or press account of the big crowds that Barack Obama continues to draw across Iowa – a state that he’s visited 21 times already in this campaign – it’s clear that even after the novelty of the new face wears off, Iowans remain very, very interested – even “fired up, ready to go” for – Obama.
Obama draws them on his own: without dragging along a former US president or even Oprah Winfrey with him, he brings the people out. And he appears to be closing on the sale.
Keep in mind that in the 2004 Iowa Caucuses, only 124,000 voters turned out. If Obama can turn out 50,000 to the caucuses, he’ll win it outright. So when we see 300, or 400, or 500, or thousands of people come out to hear him in Iowa towns, the math is very encouraging for his chances of a January surprise.
With the annual Harkin Steak Fry coming up on Sunday (and the Cyclones-Hawkeyes showdown at Jack Trice Stadium on Saturday), this is as good a time as any to take inventory on how the ground game is going in the bigger arena that is the entire state Democratic presidential contest.
Lots of links and videos at the jump…"
read it all here!
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Here comes the sun...and I say, it's all right !!
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Laura Hubka ~From Iowa Where It Started and Will Continue~~~
Sep 15th 2007 at 11:19 am EDT
The fact that Hillimonster is campaigning in Florida and holding fundraisers has not come up again since I saw the article in the Des Moines register. What is happening. I have not heard about it. NOW if Barack did that it would have been on CNN!
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Sep 15th 2007 at 4:15 pm EDT
Exactly-This is wrong and it goes to show what the Clinton Machine is all about!
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Sep 15th 2007 at 11:25 am EDT
Terri, Here Comes The Sun...
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Sep 15th 2007 at 1:01 pm EDT
Thank you Terri for this link!
It made a wonderful start to my day (after taking care of my invalids--human and cat)
Somebody on that thread (very few trolls there) said this was like Truman in '48--same energy from the people.
And that Hillary's campaign organization is falling apart in Iowa. One poster said that the major staffer who quit her campaign was jumping off the "Clintanic."
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This old broad's for Obama!
Sep 15th 2007 at 2:13 pm EDT
Thanks for the REAL info about Iowa!
Getting plugged into the Truth is like getting plugged into the French Underground during the German Occupation.
Michael Moore, please do an expose on MSM. PUH-LEEZE?
Auntie B.
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Sep 15th 2007 at 3:05 pm EDT
Thanks for the link! At the close of the video I watched, they were playing the Aretha Franklin "You Better Think (Freedom)" song that someone on this blog talked about a few weeks ago, hoping they would use that song in the campaign. I think it works really well!
Gen Clark endorsed Hillary. What a dissapointment. |
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Sep 15th 2007 at 11:39 am EDT
I was dreaming with Obama/Clark...
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Sep 15th 2007 at 11:43 am EDT
I hope not Wesley Clarke...just announced MSNBC he is endorsing Hillary
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Sep 15th 2007 at 12:01 pm EDT
This does not surprise me. General Clark is from Arkansas so his ties with the Clintons run deep.
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Sep 15th 2007 at 1:06 pm EDT
I hope no one is disappointed in this very very very not surprising event.
General Clark got into the 2004 race to derail Governor Dean. The Clintons HATE Governor Dean and they wanted him stopped. General Clark is just another Clinton follower who did what everyone expected him to do, endorse his ex-bosses wife. This is NOT news at all.
For full disclosure, I liked General Clark in 2004.
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Sep 15th 2007 at 2:16 pm EDT
Wesley and Bill were both Rhodes Scholars.
FYI
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Sep 15th 2007 at 3:09 pm EDT
Well, it shocked me! I said "Ick" out loud when I read just now that he had endorsed Hillary. I thought for sure he would endorse Obama. Like Obama, Clark was against the war from the start. I supported Clark in 2004 and I really thought he was above politics. This is a big disappointment.
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Sep 15th 2007 at 12:30 pm EDT
This is a disappointment to be sure. I think he's a very intelligent man and fervently against the war... so I find this endorsement baffling.
I'm still praying for a Gore endorsement.
I have this contact info for Gore:
Honorable Al Gore
2100 West End Avenue
Suite 620 Nashville, TN 37203
Fax: 615-327-1323
Phone: 615-327-2227
from the Science & Public Policy Institute:
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does anyone know an email address?
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Sep 15th 2007 at 12:49 pm EDT
General Clark may have been "promised" a high level position in her cabinet. Watcha gonna do. It's sad that the long-time politicians feel they owe something to the Clintons. I think these endorsements are status quo, not forward thinking, not for change. A real disappointment.
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Sep 15th 2007 at 12:54 pm EDT
Clark has been with Hillary for a long time.
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Sep 15th 2007 at 1:55 pm EDT
Not surprising. Lets all remeber that in 1998 when Former President Bill Clinton was in office that U.S. Policy regarding Iraq was changed from "containment" to "regime change". Our foreign policy regarding Iraq had been moving in the direction of regime change for years, since the late 1970's, Clinton just put the last piece in place for Bush to finish what had already been started. Bush used that 1998 policy change in his address to the UN as the basis for going into Iraq.
I'm starting to think that on some level the Clinton's want back into the White House to try and "fix" the mistakes made in the 90's. Unfortunately, the mistakes were based on flawed judgements and miscalculations which left the door open for Bush. Not to mention all the legal problems that plagued that administrtation.
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Sep 15th 2007 at 12:18 pm EDT
It's good to be back from Chicago, gang. Hope your ears were ringing. I spoke about the wonderful folks who post on the blogs. Brought up a couple of concerns... more to follow about that...
I was there about 6 hours, doing what I do from home: sorting the email coming into HQ and assigning them to their appropriate queue. Sat in a little cubicle surrounded by 20-somethings. Couldda been my grandchildren... if I had any.
What caring, compassionate kids. And patient. And kind. And bright. Very, very bright.
The future is in good hands. Not to worry.
Took the kid who trained me to lunch. Told him to pick out a "nice" place. He assured me that the organic deli was "the best".
Think of a health-food Subway's. Told him he was a cheap date. (more to follow)
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This old broad's for Obama!
Sep 15th 2007 at 12:27 pm EDT
He works 10 hours a day. And a half-day on Saturdays. Looked tired.
Was invited to attend a "circle". Hunh? Well, 5 of us sat in a circle and talked about what was going on in the mail. I brought up the issues you'd addressed: Veterans and AARP.
Met with a Desert Storm Vet (Robert "Bobby" Wise) who directs Veteran's Affairs. He conveyed his deepest apologies. He said to give him 6 to 8 weeks.
I like hearing the truth. I like a time-frame.
I met Michelle Obama. (more to follow)
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Sep 15th 2007 at 12:37 pm EDT
Thanks for the update. I can't wait to hear more !!
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This old broad's for Obama!
Sep 15th 2007 at 12:47 pm EDT
Teddy and I were walking out of HQ... half of the 11th floor of a HUGE office building on Lakeshore Drive. He was pointing out high-level people when I looked into a big conference-room office, gasped, and stopped dead in my tracks. There she was... Michelle Obama... sitting at the table with some young women, eating her bagged lunch, and kibbitzing. What personality! She's a trip!
Well, she stopped eating, stood up and talked with me. I asked her about the girls. She thanked me profusely for the work I'm doing. I hugged her.
Felt a warm zap go through me. The woman has power.
Funny story... asked the kid next to me where the restroom was. He told me there was a women's room down the hall. I said, "Oh, I want to use the unisex one. I used it last time I was here," I told him proudly. He looked at me as though I were from Mars. "It's time I came into the 21sth Century," I told him.
The kids called me "Aunt Becky". Made me feel good. Told them I went into teaching in 1971 because I wanted to change the world.
Now, I am.
Love and hugs,
Aunt Becky
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Sep 15th 2007 at 12:52 pm EDT
I wish I was there. You even got a hug from Michelle... From a fellow supporter, thank you so much for your hard work.
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This old broad's for Obama!
Sep 15th 2007 at 12:55 pm EDT
On August 25th I met Barack Obama and gave HIM a hug, too.
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Auntie B.
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This old broad's for Obama!
Sep 15th 2007 at 12:53 pm EDT
Got distracted... sorry. Telling you about my meeting with the Director of Veterans' Affairs... It will take 6-8 weeks to get the Veterans blog going in the People section.
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Sep 15th 2007 at 1:12 pm EDT
Aunt Becky ! Thanks for all you do !! It makes me want to go to the other sode of the pond and work in Iowa !!
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Sep 15th 2007 at 1:30 pm EDT
Come on up or over or down here to Iowa. I would love to canvass, or organize with any one of you! Now that would be a trip. We should all meet when President Obama is taking his Oath! We should start a group for that. Maybe I will start a group called "People meeting for inauguration day" and we could all join and plan for the meeting! Can someone tell me how to spell inauguration?lol is that right?
Clinton in FL |
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Sep 15th 2007 at 1:35 pm EDT
Hey Auntie
any news about Hillary being in Florida? I have not heard a peep. Except for in the Des Moines Register. Anyone else making noise about it?
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This old broad's for Obama!
Sep 15th 2007 at 1:50 pm EDT
Didn't hear a word. IMHO, what she did is perfectly legal.
Whether or not it's ethical... well, that's another story.
Auntie B.
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Sep 15th 2007 at 1:53 pm EDT
article about Gen. Clarks endorsement.
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democratic U.S. presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton on Saturday won the endorsement of retired Army Gen. Wesley Clark, a former NATO commander and 2004
Clark called the New York senator "a remarkable person" who would be "a great commander in chief" for the U.S. military.
"She's the right person," Clark said in a telephone briefing with reporters.
Clinton said she would like to have Clark "as involved as he can find the time to be" in her 2008 campaign.
Clark headed the 1999 NATO bombing campaign in Kosovo and was an early critic of the U.S. war in Iraq, saying the 2003 invasion to topple Saddam Hussein was a distraction in the battle against terrorism.
He dropped out of the race for the 2004 nomination after finishing a distant third in the New Hampshire Democratic primary.
Isnt it funny he can not say anymore than "she is the right person" and "a remarkable person" who would be "a great commander in chief" for the U.S. military.
HA! everyone that backs Barack says such wonderful long speechs about why they do it. Sounds like he had to really think of something to say.
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This old broad's for Obama!
Sep 15th 2007 at 1:54 pm EDT
Do what you can do in London. Bloom where you are planted.
If you can't do what you want... do what you can.
What's essential is to come into the moment with good intention. The rest will follow.
Read "Conversations With God". It changed THIS ole' broad's life!
Love and hugs,
Auntie B.
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This old broad's for Obama!
Sep 15th 2007 at 1:55 pm EDT
"Conversations with God" by Donald Walsche.
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shawnmarie
Sep 15th 2007 at 5:29 pm EDT
Auntie B-Great stories from HQ and thanks for sharing. It sounds like it was lots fun too.
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This old broad's for Obama!
Sep 15th 2007 at 5:47 pm EDT
oops! It's "Conversations With God" by Neale Donald Walsh.
Auntie B.
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Sep 15th 2007 at 5:48 pm EDT
typo: Walsch
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Sep 16th 2007 at 3:52 pm EDT
Thanks Auntie B-I've added to my book list. I have my inspirational books, and bible, but thanks for this recommend. Will do!
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Sep 15th 2007 at 1:53 pm EDT
Scenario:
Al Gore endorses Barack and then agrees to be Barack's VP right in time before the Iowa caucus. Obama/Gore would be unstoppable. If I were the Obama team, I'd be pressing hard to get Gore on board.
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This old broad's for Obama!
Sep 15th 2007 at 1:57 pm EDT
I LOVE YOUR MIND!
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Athena
Sep 15th 2007 at 2:00 pm EDT
The endorsement would be great and we are likely to get it.
However, Gore would never agree to a VP post - his stature goes beyond that, especially after spending 8 years as someone else's VP. He is an internationally recognized figure. IMO, he either belongs as President himself (after Our Candidate leaves office), or as head of the World Bank, or as UN Secretary General.
May the endorsement come with perfect timing!
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Sep 15th 2007 at 2:04 pm EDT
Well said,
Gore would not serve as Vice Present, that is for sure. Bu an endorsement is coming. I am sure, I'll drink muddy water if he endorses Hillary !!!
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Sep 15th 2007 at 2:27 pm EDT
Or Secretary of State.
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Nancy M.
Sep 15th 2007 at 3:33 pm EDT
I agree with those who say Gore would never want to be V.P. again. In fact, I think Obama would never insult Gore by asking him to be V.P.
I can't believe that Gore would endorse anybody but Barack Obama, but then, until a minute ago, I wouldn't have believed that Wesley Clark could endorse HIllary Clinton.
Al Gore, please don't fail us now. We are counting on you!
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Sep 15th 2007 at 2:05 pm EDT
Here are two links to the Clark Clinton story:
The New York Times Blog:
Link
And The Politico's blog:
Link
...both in which you can leave your comments. I read The Politico's transcript of Hiaary's description of what she said to Gen. Petraeus. I had something to say about that, and it involved something that made Pinocchio's nose grow....
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Athena
Sep 15th 2007 at 2:10 pm EDT
Correct: Hillary, not Hiaary
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Nancy M.
Sep 15th 2007 at 3:26 pm EDT
I just sent this letter to Wesley Clark:
Dear General Clark,
I supported you in 2004. I made phone calls for your campaign. I wrote heartfelt letters to voters in other states. I was signed up to be a delegate for you at the convention. I believed that you were a statesman, not a politician.
I just learned that you have endorsed HIllary Clinton for President. I simply cannot believe that you would support her based on merit - not when Barack Obama stands for everything I thought you believed in and wanted for this country, and more. I have no choice, therefore, but to believe that your endorsement was politically based. I am very disappointed. I have lost my respect for you.
Please remove me from all your mailing lists and from my previous involvement in Wes Pac.
Sincerely,
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Sep 15th 2007 at 4:08 pm EDT
Was there ever a formal article in the MSM on ZBig's endorsement? I saw the Bloomberg clip posted here, but nothing more.
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Sep 15th 2007 at 4:17 pm EDT
Looks like Hillary is just playing the political game. She almost outright calls Gen Petraus a liar and gets called on it. In order to save herself from Rep and military backlash she pulls Clarke out of her pocket. Nice timing.
My Warrior Spirit Cries... |
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Sep 15th 2007 at 8:59 pm EDT
O Captain! my Captain!
I.
O Captain! my Captain! our fearful trip is done;
The ship has weathered every rack, the prize we sought is won;
The port is near, the bells I hear, the people all exulting,
While follow eyes the steady keel, the vessel grim and daring.
But O heart! heart! heart!
O the bleeding drops of red!
Where on the deck my Captain lies,
Fallen cold and dead.
II.
O captain! my Captain! rise up and hear the bells;
Rise up! For you the flag is flung, for you the bugle trills:
For you bouquets and ribboned wreaths, for you the shores a-crowding:
For you they call, the swaying mass, their eager faces turning.
Here Captain! dear father!
This arm beneath your head;
It is some dream that on the deck,
You've fallen cold and dead.
III.
My Captain does not answer, his lips are pale and still;
My father does not feel my arm, he has no pulse nor will;
The ship is anchor'd safe and sound, its voyage closed and done;
From fearful trip the victor ship comes in with object won!
Exult, O shores, and ring, O bells!
But I with mournful tread,
Walk the deck my Captain lies,
Fallen cold and dead.
Walt Whitman (in remembrance of President Lincoln)
Refreshing and Intelligent |
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Michael Guinn
Sep 16th 2007 at 3:46 pm EDT
Thanks for the great blog! This Insanity must end, and Barack Obama can do it!
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Green Mommy
Sep 17th 2007 at 3:35 pm EDT
Wow! What an amazing post. I'm speechless. This is exactly what I love about Obama and his trusted advisors. They are intelligent, thoughtful, and collaborative. You pointed out as one of Obama's strengths the very thing that first drew me to Obama and that I think we need desperately in this country; A leader who can go into a room and forge common ground. There is no other way to mitigate the complex challenges we have today. We must realize that no one is "the bad guy," everyone has legitimate interests and needs and until we address those, we cannot solve the challenges we are facing.
Bravo! Thank you for sharing.
Nickie
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Oct 17th 2007 at 9:26 pm EDT
How wonderful it is going to be when our next president Barck Obama will assign you to a position of your expretise.
Thank you
emo
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Mar 7th 2008 at 9:10 pm EST
I have been listening to Samantha Power on several different news programs over the last few days. I heard her this morning singing Obama's praises on the BBC. I was impressed by her passion, eloquence, and her belief in Barack Obama. She has slowly been winning me over to the Obama camp. I just heard on Countdown that he fired her because she called Hillary a 'monster.'. Could this be true? Imagine the fragile state of any Obama administration if even the slightest slip could get you tossed out the door!!!!! Is this really what we need now? I don't think so.....
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