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By Ben Main Aug 11th 2007 at 4:24 pm EDT

This will be the last time I raise this topic, then I'm leaving it alone:

This is going to be the third time I've posted this comment, because I think it's something Obama supporters need to do something about:

Recently, the Annenberg Political Fact Check, better known by their URL as FactCheck.org released an article about the AFL-CIO forum:

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The article has two segments, one criticizing statements by Biden, two criticizing some by Obama, and one criticizing some by Edwards. None of these is particularly scathing, but I couldn't help but notice that one of the Obama segments was made to look like more of an issue that it was by under-reporting what Obama actually said. Here's the segment in question:

"Obama's Historical Revision

Sen. Obama rewrote history when he defended his controversial remarks about invading Pakistan if necessary to eliminate al Qaeda.

Obama: I did not say that we would immediately go in unilaterally. What I said was that we have to work with [Pakistan's President Pervez] Musharraf.

That's not exactly what he said. Obama is referring to an Aug. 1 policy address, in which he made no direct mention of working with Musharraf. Instead, he said he would "take out" al Qaeda if Musharraf failed to act.

Obama (Aug. 1): I understand that President Musharraf has his own challenges. But let me make this clear. There are terrorists holed up in those mountains who murdered 3,000 Americans. They are plotting to strike again. It was a terrible mistake to fail to act when we had a chance to take out an al Qaeda leadership meeting in 2005. If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won't act, we will.

That's the only time Obama mentions Musharraf at all in the speech, as posted on his own campaign Web site."

If you're thinking something's not quite right about this, you're right because it clips important context surrounding both quotes in question. I'll reply to this comment with those segments.

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By Ben Main Aug 11th 2007 at 4:25 pm EDT

The quoted part of the speech was only the middle one of three consecutive paragraphs regarding policy with Pakistan:

"As President, I would make the hundreds of millions of dollars in U.S. military aid to Pakistan conditional, and I would make our conditions clear: Pakistan must make substantial progress in closing down the training camps, evicting foreign fighters, and preventing the Taliban from using Pakistan as a staging area for attacks in Afghanistan.

I understand that President Musharraf has his own challenges. But let me make this clear. There are terrorists holed up in those mountains who murdered 3,000 Americans. They are plotting to strike again. It was a terrible mistake to fail to act when we had a chance to take out an al Qaeda leadership meeting in 2005. If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won't act, we will.

And Pakistan needs more than F-16s to combat extremism. As the Pakistani government increases investment in secular education to counter radical madrasas, my Administration will increase America's commitment. We must help Pakistan invest in the provinces along the Afghan border, so that the extremists' program of hate is met with one of hope. And we must not turn a blind eye to elections that are neither free nor fair -- our goal is not simply an ally in Pakistan, it is a democratic ally."

The other two paragraphs do talk about working with Pakistan. Furthermore, the article clips context from his forum statement that connects with the other clipped material:

"I did not say that we would immediately go in unilaterally. What I said was that we have to work with Musharraf , because the biggest threat to American security right now are in the northwest provinces of Pakistan. And that we should continue to give him military aid contingent on him doing something about that."

I personally think that FackCheck.org is an asset to those seeking a quick independent overview of candidate's factual errors and distortions, but it cheapens itself with such poor coverage. I sent them an email yesterday and have yet to receive a reply. Perhaps this is because of limited resources and many emails, but I suspect that they may pay more attention if more people contact them on this manner. Here is their contact page:

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By Rick Beaule' Aug 11th 2007 at 4:35 pm EDT

Don't stop pointing this out, Meng. It is important to catch those who are misrepresenting the facts or the entire story to be held accountable. You are making a difference. If you stop your reporting, then we lose a voice. Keep it up!

Mustard seeds for everyone!

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By Lyn MD Aug 11th 2007 at 4:41 pm EDT

Thanks...sent them an email also

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By Athena Aug 11th 2007 at 9:09 pm EDT

So did I. The FactCheck piece was so very wrong that I decided on a different angle of attack, so as to show them how very off they were. The more inaccuracies we point out, the more likely they are to react? Maybe I am being too optimistic. Anyway, here is my letter to them:

Dear Sirs,

I would like to take issue with your reference to what you term Sen. Barack Obama's "controversial remarks" on "invading Pakistan" in your report on the AFL-CIO Democratic Forum.

Actually, his comments are far from controversial; nor did Mr. Obama say he would invade Pakistan.

As Sen. Joe Biden and a recent Editorial in The Washington Post have pointed out, the idea that the US could go in after an Al Quaeda target if Musharraf cannot/will not has been circulating in Washington for a long time and "is.... already US policy." (See Aug. 9 Editorial).

Indeed, so non-controversial is Mr. Obama's stance that Mr. Biden went so far as to call him a "Johnny come lately" for his remarks, and he noted that the idea of conditioning aid to Pakistan on its performance as an ally to the United States, tracking down terrorists and enforcing its border with Afghanistan already exists in a provision of a 9/11 bill recently passed by Congress.

Further, Mr. Obama never advocated invading Pakistan, contrary to what has been said, particularly by the right-wing media. Going in after a specific target for a limited purpose is VERY different from sending hundreds of thousands of air, ground and navy troops and securing Islamabad and the other major cities. To invade a country is not to simply go into it. An invasion entails taking complete control of the country. Mr. Obama never suggested anything remotely like that. He suggested going after terrorists in the mountains, and the US has a long (and both glorious and inglorious) history of targeted attacks in other countries.

END OF LETTER

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By Ethel Aug 12th 2007 at 8:23 am EDT

I just sent them an email as well. I am providing their email address for others to do so as well.

Editor@FactCheck.org

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By Dawn Aug 12th 2007 at 6:32 pm EDT

Lyn,

Do you frequent the MSNBC political board? "Lyn, MD" is a constant on there. If so, you may have noticed me by the user name "Dee of VA". You really hold it down for the Senator over there!

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By Cilla...Currently living in Spain and lovin' it Aug 19th 2007 at 11:41 am EDT

Gee Dawn, I see you also like bto toot your own horn and ask people if they recognize you on the political message board,how vein.

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By Lorraine Aug 11th 2007 at 5:10 pm EDT

Meng,

Bless you sweetheart! We really NEED people like you to hold these kind of websites accountable!

Excellent work, love!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!

Keep it up

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By Terri Aug 11th 2007 at 5:18 pm EDT

Meng,
I'm not sure how I missed it, but this is the first time I saw this. And THANK YOU for continuing to repeat it. This is exactly why I think we need a separate group for countering media spin and misrepresentation wherever we find it. This was really important IMO and should not have been missed.

Anyway, I just emailed them also.

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By Alfred McFarland Aug 11th 2007 at 7:19 pm EDT

It appears that you all made a major error in reporting what Barack Obama said in his Aug 1 speech. He made several references to working with the leader of Pakistan with aid contingent upon their efforts to evict foreign fighters, prevent the Taliban from using Pakistan as a staging area, and closing down terrorist training camps. However, you infer that he made no mention of working with the President of Pakistan.

Your statement that Obama is tying reinvent himself is not true, it misleads voters, it Helps the other candidates, and I think you should print a retraction ASAP.

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By Bilal from Manassas, VA Aug 12th 2007 at 7:36 am EDT

Thanks so much for that,keep up with the good work by letting them know the truth

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By Tammy Aug 11th 2007 at 5:01 pm EDT

Our complaints regarding media bias in reporting on election 2008 (mainly Obama and Clinton) has fallen on deaf ears. It's time we kicked-it-up several notches.

Maybe they'll get their hearing back if we slow the growth of the network owners' bank accounts.

Link

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By JimmieFromDayton Aug 11th 2007 at 5:30 pm EDT

Thank you Tammy, you are one of our true leaders. We will made a difference. We will confront the conspirators and bring change to our country.

Obama 08!

("Hillary, you are NOT my girl")

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By Tammy Aug 12th 2007 at 1:32 pm EDT

Jimmie,

Terri,

It's not my blog. I don't know the blogger. All I know is it is a woman from New York and she is fantastic. I read her blog everyday.

Please share the link to her blog with everyone you know. It's good reliable information.

We have to share information and pass these videos on to folks:

For folks who still don't know much about Senator Obama, share this video:

Link

When folks talk to you about "experience," share this video:

Link

When folks talk about Hillary's position on something. Ask them to watch this video and then answer the question how can they be certain where Hillary stands on any given issue?

Link

When folks talk about the polls, share this video with them:

Link

And if you just want to have a little fun:

Link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =EHIBok83AQg

Enjoy! Let's all keep spreading the word. We've only got 5 months left. We must fight hard to make this happen.

Don't be shy about asking folks to visit Sen. Obama's site to make a donation. We've got to do all we can to ensure Senator Obama becomes the 44th president of the US.

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By JimmieFromDayton Aug 12th 2007 at 2:15 pm EDT

Will do, thanks!

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By Terri Aug 11th 2007 at 5:41 pm EDT

Excellent blog you have Tammy! I've got you bookmarked!!

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By Tammy Aug 12th 2007 at 1:31 pm EDT

Terri,

It's not my blog. I don't know the blogger. All I know is it is a woman from New York and she is fantastic. I read her blog everyday.

Please share the link to her blog with everyone you know. It's good reliable information.

We have to share information and pass these videos on to folks:

For folks who still don't know much about Senator Obama, share this video:

Link

When folks talk to you about "experience," share this video:

Link

When folks talk about Hillary's position on something. Ask them to watch this video and then answer the question how can they be certain where Hillary stands on any given issue?

Link

When folks talk about the polls, share this video with them:

Link

And if you just want to have a little fun:

Link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =EHIBok83AQg

Enjoy! Let's all keep spreading the word. We've only got 5 months left. We must fight hard to make this happen.

Don't be shy about asking folks to visit Sen. Obama's site to make a donation. We've got to do all we can to ensure Senator Obama becomes the 44th president of the US.

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By Athena Aug 11th 2007 at 8:18 pm EDT

This is an amazing site!

Tammy, you have more courage than I do in actually willing to submit yourself to the torture of watching Tucker Carlson and his fellow dead heads and their incestuous recycling of "analysts" and "guests" on the major network punditfests.

The print media is usually as far as I go without throwing up and, even there, some of the things I read make me nauseate. I'll keep writing my letters to the editor (even if they never get published). I still think we can prevail.

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By Tammy Aug 12th 2007 at 1:35 pm EDT

Athena,

I'm on my way to OZ right now to get some courage. I used to watch Tucker but since he has been so disrespectful to Sen. Obama, I won't watch his show. I rely on the NY blogger to keep me up-to-date on what that slime ball is up to.

It's not my blog. I don't know the blogger. All I know is it is a woman from New York and she is fantastic. I read her blog everyday.

Please share the link to her blog with everyone you know. It's good reliable information.

We have to share information and pass these videos on to folks:

For folks who still don't know much about Senator Obama, share this video:

Link

When folks talk to you about "experience," share this video:

Link

When folks talk about Hillary's position on something. Ask them to watch this video and then answer the question how can they be certain where Hillary stands on any given issue?

Link

When folks talk about the polls, share this video with them:

Link

And if you just want to have a little fun:

Link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =EHIBok83AQg

Enjoy! Let's all keep spreading the word. We've only got 5 months left. We must fight hard to make this happen.

Don't be shy about asking folks to visit Sen. Obama's site to make a donation. We've got to do all we can to ensure Senator Obama becomes the 44th president of the US.

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By Tammy Aug 11th 2007 at 5:01 pm EDT

Our complaints regarding media bias in reporting on election 2008 (mainly Obama and Clinton) has fallen on deaf ears. It's time we kicked-it-up several notches.

Maybe they'll get their hearing back if we slow the growth of the network owners' bank accounts.

Link

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By JimmieFromDayton Aug 11th 2007 at 7:10 pm EDT

Tammy thank you, you have a great site. Ok supporters of the peoples movement. I believe it is time to stand up to the media and fight back.

" NBC and MSNBC are owned by GE, a major backer of Clinton (and by the way is also represented by the PR firm headed up by Mark Penn, Hillary's chief poller and strategist) and it is time to bring out of the closet the truth. It is time to tell these reporters, either report ALL OF THE TRUTH, or get out of the business or we will start a campaign where the American people who are disgusted with politics now will rise up and demand you start telling the TRUTH."

It's time to organize and send these clowns a message. I'm drafting a message to GE. In it I'm going to warn them that if they continue these tactics against our country I'll have no choice but to boycott their products.

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By ◎Desert Dove Dan◎ Aug 12th 2007 at 8:54 am EDT

Thank you. I was wondering how to go about putting some pressure on these people to stop this incessant cheerleading for Hillary. It has gotten so bad that even Washington Journal on C-Span seems to let a far larger number of Republican calls get through than Democratic calls and when they do let the democratic callers get through they seem to make sure it is a Hillary supporter. Anyway, I am also going to write to GE and boycott their products if I have to. We are definitely up against a monster here and need all the help we can get.

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By JimmieFromDayton Aug 12th 2007 at 11:59 am EDT

What I'm going to do is put together a list of products these owners sell to us so the we can easily get an idea of exactly how much financial support we are giving them.

You know, I bet we'd all be surprised just how much influence we have. A "this is what I'm worth to you" statement if you would. Or your footprint with a particular media.

I hope someone smarter than me can refine it so that it's something that will help our efforts. I know we all are doing things now to fight this travesty, but think what it would mean if we could get this organized with a sharp tip. I think we could really force them to just report the true facts.

We all agree that we have legitmate shortcomings but on those we will live with the decision of the people as long as they are allowed to hear the truth.

We like our chances if happens.

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By Tammy Aug 12th 2007 at 1:38 pm EDT

Daniel,

It's not my blog. I don't know the blogger. All I know is it is a woman from New York and she is fantastic. I read her blog everyday.

Please share the link to her blog with everyone you know. It's good reliable information.

We have to share information and pass these videos on to folks:

For folks who still don't know much about Senator Obama, share this video:

Link

When folks talk to you about "experience," share this video:

Link

When folks talk about Hillary's position on something. Ask them to watch this video and then answer the question how can they be certain where Hillary stands on any given issue?

Link

When folks talk about the polls, share this video with them:

Link

And if you just want to have a little fun:

Link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =EHIBok83AQg

Enjoy! Let's all keep spreading the word. We've only got 5 months left. We must fight hard to make this happen.

Don't be shy about asking folks to visit Sen. Obama's site to make a donation. We've got to do all we can to ensure Senator Obama becomes the 44th president of the US.

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By DieHardSupporter Aug 11th 2007 at 8:19 pm EDT

This Saturday evening (Aug 11) CNN's This Week in War (it is telecast at 7 p.m. in Washington DC Metro area and broadcast again on Sunday at 1 p.m. Check your area timing) characterised Sen Obama's position on Pakistan as loose lips and lumped him with Tancredo's bomb Mecca comment. Are you guys going to not respond to CNN about this? Thank you.

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By bryan lovsness Aug 11th 2007 at 8:54 pm EDT

Hillary is winning the LOGO debate results vote at gay.com Link

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By cn Aug 11th 2007 at 9:10 pm EDT

Finally, I've found another article of a journalist giving an objective critique of Barack's foriegn policy debate:

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I don't mind debate and honest critique over Obama's ideas, but for God's sake can they keep it honest?! I would actually like to hear debate over what he brings up (I think he would successfully defend his policies), but this misrepresentation and unethical journalism is driving me insane! It's been nice to find that so many people feel the same way. I guess we all need to just keep sending emails to the MSM websites, keep bugging people for honesty. I haven't heard a lot of people talk about Fox, I know they're already biased, but I think we should also be checking them, to make sure the independents and moderate rep's who mostly listen to Fox but might be open to voting for Obama (i would consider myself in that category) are also getting the right stories. There's a general ellection we've got to plane for too!

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By DieHardSupporter Aug 12th 2007 at 2:05 pm EDT

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"Looking past the presidential nomination fight, Democratic leaders quietly fret that Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton at the top of their 2008 ticket could hurt candidates at the bottom."......

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By JimmieFromDayton Aug 12th 2007 at 2:24 pm EDT

Her best chance of winning is Rudy, other than that I don't believe she can win. This means that the bureaucrats are going to target Mitt Romney as well...........Good luck Mitt!

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By Strong Heart Aug 11th 2007 at 4:37 pm EDT

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By Strong Heart Aug 11th 2007 at 4:45 pm EDT

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By Blaze Aug 11th 2007 at 5:26 pm EDT

Obama needs to work on his public speaking and has to prepare himself before debate.

First , his staff needs to get him a public speaking guy that would help him talk in straight line without stuttering or using so many "humz" "huhz" after every 5 seconds.

I think this could discourage people from attempting to even lisening to what he's saying and it makes it hard for people to give him a look.

Second..Obama has to prepare himself harder before those debates because he just sound like too many questions catches him off guards and you could tell because he thinks a lot after every lines ans stutters and stops....Hillary gets ask a question and she would quickly dish out the answer without stopping to think...Obama looks a bit lost when he takes so much time to look for the words he wants to spill out...This plays into the "inexperience" theme.

I would hope this is something his staffs are working with him on because he can not keep on doing the same..He has to change.

My suggestion is to scrip him and not let him go out there to answer questions that do not need a lot of thinking..He should have all those answers ready in his head and just spill them out without stopping and thinking about it.

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By Moses from Cincinnati, OH Aug 11th 2007 at 5:34 pm EDT

Blaze, Mrs Clinton and Sen. Obama are not thesame and therefore can not speak in thesame way. Try and make more use of the substance of what you hear from Sen. Obama rather than how he says it. He has his own way of talking and you should get used to it. I do not share your opinion as regards to how he answers questions, but we can agree to disagree and that's how it's in life.

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By Blaze Aug 11th 2007 at 5:59 pm EDT

Some have noticed the same thing that i'm saying and i really think his staff should try to correct this flow...I just think he thinks way too much out there..It makes him look like he doesnt know what to say.

I'm a huge Obama supporter , but at the same time , i think he has some flaws and most of them are in his speech delivery or rhetorical style.

While some may say him thinking so much makes him sound thoughtful , ive heard some suggest that it makes him sound like he's lost and got caught off guard and is looking for what to say.

Just helping out.

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By BSD Aug 11th 2007 at 6:12 pm EDT

I totally agree.

Also after the debates he needs more people front and center for him to give the illusion he is everywhere.

I always see Clintons people all of the place after the debate and no one from Obama's camp.

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By Dawn Aug 11th 2007 at 9:05 pm EDT

Another good point some of us have been making. He needs far more surrogates. The only effective one I've seen is Congressman Adam Smith from Washington. David Axelrod is a train wreck when he faces off against Howard Wolfson. Senator Obama should hire the sharpest African American women in the business as his chief spokesperson. Hell, Michelle is fabulous; she can certainly take on Wolfson. Having an African American woman out front will go a looooong way in wrestling African American female support from Hillary Clinton. If Richard Clarke had been dispatched to all of the major news shows right after Senator Obama's foreign policy speech, he would have been able to deflect criticism from Clinton and others because his foreign policy credentials are impeccable. I've said it before and I'll say it again, the poor decisions that Senator Obama's team is making, particularly his communications team, is getting in the way of his success.

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By Bilal from Manassas, VA Aug 12th 2007 at 7:52 am EDT

please to every body in the house try and send an email to the campaign HQ so that they know these things and make amends. thank you

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By Valorie Aug 12th 2007 at 10:32 am EDT

I heard Mr. Axelrod (Obama's adviser) speak on hardball and he talks the same way. Although Hillary's adviser was saying alot of BS he made it almost sound good. I love Barack, but I agree. I still say Ben Affleck has represented Barack better than ANYONE thus far. Ben was very articulate on Chris Matthews show. Chris even stated that Ben was is the speaker he has ever heard "bar none".

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By JimmieFromDayton Aug 11th 2007 at 6:40 pm EDT

Let's hope that as his campaign catches it's stride so will his responses to some of those unscripted questions. I personally don't believe that it was his intention to run in 08. Having said that, be sure that you forward your concerns to HQ. I'm sure you're not the only one who has mentioned this to him. In the end he is who he is and that stutter may very well be uncontrolable. I do feel that a lot of those who find him difficult to listen to are not likely to like what they hear even if it came from his written material. Hopefully they will take the time to listen to some of his DVD's and make an informed decission. So when you hear these things try recommending some of his videos and DVD's. The stutter seems less obvious on those. Good luck and keep working hard for our candidate.

Obama 08!

(Hillary, you are NOT my girl!")

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By wazolangu Aug 12th 2007 at 2:09 am EDT

Jammie, you talked about obamas dvds. Can you or anyone tell me how i can get these dvds. Thanks

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By JimmieFromDayton Aug 12th 2007 at 3:00 am EDT

Sure, you have two choices. You can purchase them from the Obama store. They have packages available at a discounted rate to help raise funds.

The other option is to down load them along with the DVD software and burn as many as you need. I hope that eventually the entire platform will be available to help up get his message out.

I'm planning on making my own to pass out here in Dayton. There's campaign literature there as well. Remember, we the people are financing this campaign and we're competing against interest groups with very large pockets.

Link

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By wazolangu Aug 12th 2007 at 5:19 pm EDT

Thanks Jimmie!

I want to make copies and give them out as many as i can.

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By Tammy Aug 11th 2007 at 7:17 pm EDT

I don't know how much you can change a persons normal speaking and thinking pattern. Sen. Obama speaks the way he does because he's very thoughtful. I believe most intellectuals speak this way. I hate that we believe we have to change that to win.

Sen. Clinton is so quick to speak because she's not saying anything. She spews out sound bites. She doesn't give deep thought to any issue because she doesn't have any real positions. She has positions for the moment or the occasion.

She's always in such a rush to one-up Sen. Obama with one of her clever sound bites that she contradicts herself and proves herself to be the liar we all believe her to be because she doesn't stop to think.

Don't you find it horrifying that a presidential candidate is not clear and not settled on where she stands as it relates to nukes? That's a big deal.

We know where Senator Obama stands on nukes. Based on what Sen. Clinton has said in the debates, does anybody know where she really stands on nukes? And yet we say she speaks more clearly. Does she really? How can that be so if we have no idea what her position is?

I understand the concern, but I have to believe we're better off with a slower speaking thoughtful intellectual than a professional sound bite debater. In the long run, I believe the American people are smart enough to realize Sen. Clinton is a dishonest phony.

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By Dawn Aug 11th 2007 at 9:14 pm EDT

Hillary Clinton has CLEARLY hired a speaking coach. There is a measurable difference between her public speaking voice from earlier in the year to now. She has clearly beneffited from the coaching and Senator Obama HAS to do the same. My son, while enormously brilliant like Senator Obama, suffered from a slight speech impediment and with a few sessions, his speech pattern has greatly improved. Senator Obama can NOT expect the American public to stay atuned to his long thought process. We tend to give the American public far too much credit. They are perpetually lazy and uninformed and more influenced by sound bites than reason. That said, Senator Obama is going to have to dumb it down to Hillary Clinton's level to reach the critical masses. It's sad commentary on the American public but nonetheless true.

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By wazolangu Aug 12th 2007 at 2:13 am EDT

I agree with you Dawn! the mzzz and amzz break the the stearing flow!

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By Mehari Aug 12th 2007 at 12:50 pm EDT

I watched Barack Obama's interview on "Tim Russert" promoting his book "The Audacity of Hope" in November 2006. It is so moving that I don't mind watching it again and again. I did not see any "speech impediment" quite the contrary, he is very unique in his presentation that he is like no other politician that I know. Even by his rivals fromm the senate he is acknowledged as Brilliantly "articulate" and is not fare to attempt to draw a parallel wit a kid with a speech impediment that did well with therapy. Senator Obama has way past that and accomplished a lot and is well recognized for his communication skills. granted he is not Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton or the other black politicians who have a poetic and fiery speech style . He is just different.

I have seen several comments on this web page criticizing his style of delivery. I think expecting him to deliver his thoughts differently is missing the point that he is unique. He is smart and extremely knowledgable but at the same time he is plain spoken. He can deliver a speech at a national convention that electrifies the audience but he can also talk in a conversational style that captures his audiences attention. He has an exceptional ability of presenting ideas with clarity and candor that other politicians present in a way that is not understandable out of Washington D.C. It is not that the other candidates have better speech coaches or are more articulate,rather the other candidates response is carefully scripted NOT TO MAKE MISTAKES and NOT TO LOSE in the eyes of the MSM and the Washington insiders while Obama's response is deliver THOUGHTFULLY with CLARITY and CANDOR TO WIN the hearts and minds of the American people.That's why his campaign is catching fire and is the most talked about campaign. So for a change thanks to Barack Obama this political season we are experiencing a different phenomenon from unique and inspirational leader
and we should just enjoy it and contribute positively to his campaign.

LET BARACK OBAMA BE BARACK OBAMA!

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By Mehari Aug 12th 2007 at 12:53 pm EDT

Sorry for the typeO FAIR not FARE.

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By tayose3 Aug 12th 2007 at 3:06 am EDT

I agree with u Tammy.I think that a true intellectual speaks the way Senator Obama speaks. I dont see any reason why he should change the way he speaks.I dont have any problem understanding his speech or his train of thought. I really dont see why that should be an issue.If you listen to Hillary it is more quantity as oppose to quality.No substance whatsover.

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By Julia from Pasadena Aug 12th 2007 at 10:23 am EDT

As an academic who spend a lot of time with professors, I can tell you Obama speaks exactly like a typical academic professor. In fact, he is a lot more polished than most. Hillary comes across as trying to pander to the nascar crowd (I'm your girl) and that really annoys people with higher IQs.

All the academics I've spoken to think Obama is the best candidate. But we do tend to judge on perceived intelligence.

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By Lorraine Aug 12th 2007 at 7:50 pm EDT

As an academic at a private college and part of the 'NASCAR crowd' (the millions of NASCAR fans and one of the several hundred thousand that show up at the races each week), I find your comment offensive and elitist.

Take a look at the new demographics of the NASCAR crowd and you'll not be as quick to write them off as having such low IQs. You'll also notice how important the presidential candidates find this group in the quest to get elected.

I hope your views are not shared by Barack and others at this forum.

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By Lorraine Aug 11th 2007 at 7:56 pm EDT

I agree with Blaze.

Barack has a terrific message, but needs to build more more skills in delivery in debates.

He doesn't have to mimic the Hillary sound bites, but he does have to polish his delivery in those kinds of forums so his message is clearly heard.

Unfortunately the debate format does not permit much time for careful reflection and thought. Responses need to provided in a very limited amount of time.

It is important to have words ready that will provide the key messages. First impressions are always important so that people will continue to listen to you.

I think his delivery in settings other than debates is the best of any of the candidates for either party..

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By Blaze Aug 11th 2007 at 9:34 pm EDT

Obama has by far the best grassroot support and a good ground game could make up 5% in polls but he has got to do better at those debates.

I firmly beleieve that he needs a break out debate performance and he will not get it if every question is answered with a lot of pauses and stuttering.

Ive always said that he needs to very heavily scripted because ive seen too many soft ball question throwns his way where he answers them like they were fast balls.

For example,during the AFL-CIO debate ,Obelman asked him about immigration and i felt it was a soft ball because i knew his immigration stance , but he answered it with a bunches of pauses and a lot of thinking and i couldnt believe he had to be so thoughtful and careful when answering this question.

1.stop the flow of future illegal immigration by beefing up the border with border agents.
2.crack down on abusive employer who hire illegal workers.
3.Legalize current illegal immigrants that are not protected by labor laws so they wont stop depressing Americans wages.

I was shocked by all the stutter and pauses when answering this question.

Is it nervousness?..

My only hope is that his staff sits him down and teach him how to recognize certain question and have his scripted lines ready.

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By Athena Aug 11th 2007 at 9:45 pm EDT

Nervousness, that's it. At the first CNN debate he looked as though he had a bit of stage fright and his "ums" and "ahs" were everywhere. He is much better now. He still has a long way to go but I think he will continue to improve as the debates go on.

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By The Russianolive Aug 11th 2007 at 11:42 pm EDT

I think his biggest problem is having Axelrod representing him in the post-debate. I don't know his name, but the junior representative that's spoken on behalf of Obama should be his permanent media liason. I'll try to find his name

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By Blaze Aug 11th 2007 at 7:40 pm EDT

It never bothered me until potential voters pointed it out to me and this is why im so worry.

First impression means so much and i'm afraid that Obama's speaking style may be a turn off to some...A few will disqualify him for being black or not enough experience , so you dont want anymore people canceling him out because they just find him hard to listen to.

I havent email this to the HQ team because im sure they are aware of it and my guess is it's something thats uncontrolable.

I was thinking that maybe this has something to do with him quitting smoking??..Maybe the smoking makes him more at ease and maybe he speaks without stuttering when he smokes?

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By Foreigner Aug 11th 2007 at 8:29 pm EDT

Hi Blaze!

I clicked on 'Blaze' to see your profile, and read your earlier posts. You're part of 'Students for Obama', are you? Well done, hats off to you for being so responsible about the campaign at a young age (unlike me, and I'm 57 now).

Please view the video of the Break-out session with Barack at YearlyKos. Watch his response to the guy who asks something like "Are you just fancy words or can you get things done?"

I am attaching two links below for you all (one has more content, an additional question on coal).

Basically, Barack says something like "Welcome to Chicago. (big applause and laughter) I came here as a nobody 20 years ago. Today, I am the US Senator and campaigning for President of USA..." Can he get things done or can he get things done?

Some call these OBAMA AT HIS VERY BEST! hope you enjoy watching! Let us know.

Link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =fXd6C2Y_8fs

If the link doesn't come through properly, just go to YouTube and Search for "Obama Breakout Yearlykos"

Blaze, its good of you to share your concerns here. In addition, please write about the positive things you are achieving for the campaign eg phone calls, door-knocks, events you are helping organise, voter registrations, self-improvement etc etc.

Hope you don't mind these suggestions of mine .... from Sydney, Australia :-) Godbless!

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By Rick Beaule' Aug 11th 2007 at 7:12 pm EDT

I'll take the authenticity that comes from those pauses, thanks. The fact that the pause is so short means that our candidate is well-tempered in thinking on his feet; a trait I find indispensable for the rigors of the Oval Office. Note that you can always tell when Ms. Clinton delivers a prepared line, for to my musical ear, the tempo and the cadence is always the same for each one.

She must have an extreme distaste for the unscripted for her to almost exclusively go for those rehearsed remarks. And it's the obviously pre-scripted remarks that make me distrust how she will react when the unexpected rears its ugly head.

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By Lorraine Aug 11th 2007 at 7:19 pm EDT

Ditto! I will take Senator Obama pausing to think about his answer instead of programmed answers.

Remember some Presidential candidates think you aren't suppose to say what you think.

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By Randy from Escondido, CA Aug 11th 2007 at 7:44 pm EDT

I agree Lorraine,

Thinking before you speak seems important.

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By Almak Aug 11th 2007 at 8:11 pm EDT

I respectfully disagree. I think Obama is doing just fine as is. No gimmics. I think its better than saying "scratch that".Nothing wrong with thought out answers. And it does not happen all the time either. He is authentic and tries to address the audience.

The MSM has conditioned us to think Hillary gives better answers.Obama has done well in in more than half the debates.He is just fine.

The person I may be concerned about is Alexrod.His body movement side to side during an interview at soldier filed was very distracting. He is great behind the scenes but there is a need of someone calm and is going to drive the message with minimal distraction.

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By Dawn Aug 11th 2007 at 9:46 pm EDT

"I, I, I" It's not about you, me or any Obama supporters; it's about the masses that Senator Obama needs to reach. Most voters are not going to read his books nor be privileged to a face-to-face meeting. For most voters, the only opportunities they will have to assess Senator Obama are debates, forums and television interviews. And if he can NOT effectively (that's the operative word) communicate his message in 60 seconds or less, he can't win. It's that simple. HIs message his solid but his delivery isn't.

Please understand I'm not trying to be negative, but realistic. Come February, I don't want to be on this board nursing a moral victory but rather celebrating an actual victory. And that will NOT happen by ignoring the reality that Senator Obama is going to have to greatly improve his debate performances and on camera interviews. Don't consider it criticism but critical support. One of the reasons that I love Senator Obama is because he's willing to tell the public what they need to hear rather than what they want to hear, and it should be no different in reverse with us, his supporters, telling him what he nees to hear rather than what he may want to hear.

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By Dawn Aug 11th 2007 at 9:20 pm EDT

Lorraine, with all due respect, it's not about reaching you or any of us Obama supporters, but rather that larger portion of the public that he has not yet reached or is leaning towards Hillary Clinton. What you are effectively arguing is that he should continue to speak to the choir but ignore the larger congregation. As long as he continues to talk in what is being characterized as a meandering style of speaking--rambling--he is not going to reach the critical mass that he needs to win.

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By Lorraine Aug 11th 2007 at 10:39 pm EDT

Dawn,

He should not change himself to please the public. Regardless of what Senator Obama does in the debates the pundits will ALWAYS pick Hillary Clinton as the winner. The MSM WANTS her to win. They don't care about Senator Obama's message. They harp on soundbites. Hillary Clinton said that people running for office shouldn't say what they think. If Senator Obama said that it would be running on TV for the next 6 months. Also, she said the SAME EXACT thing Senator Obama said about Pakistan. But the MSM focused on Senator Obama. She said she would continue to take money from Lobbyist. Yes the MSM focused on Senator Obama's record regarding Lobbyist.

On CSPAN (I thank the Lord for this channel) there was a gentleman on this morning. He backed up what Senator Obama said in his speech. But you won't hear it in the MSM.

Hillary Clinton can make the BIGGEST GAFF in Political History and the MSM won't call her on it.

Senator Obama's campaign is NOT about him, its about the people who will vote for him in the Primaries and General Election.

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By ♋Tanner♋ Aug 11th 2007 at 11:04 pm EDT

Tell like it is Lorraine!!!

I totally agree with you. The American public is so conditioned to hear a politician talk a certain way that when someone comes along who is different all hell breaks loose.

I think Barack Obama is a genuine candidate and I think he should "stay the course" (Do I dare say that? :) )

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By Tammy Aug 12th 2007 at 1:48 pm EDT

Lorraine,

I believe you are right. It doesn't matter how good Sen. Obama is, or how bad Sen. Clinton is - the MSM will always call it for Sen. Clinton, regardless.

Don't you guys hear the MSM talking-up Hillary's boos. When has it ever been a good thing to be booed? What do you think they would say if it was Sen. Obama being booed? Huh?

This is not about Sen. Obama's speaking style, it's about the MSM and the Clintonistas attempts to brainwash the American people. Yep, I said it, brainwash!

The sheeple among us have to be willing to see the truth.

We do better to respect Sen. Obama's style and appreciate who he is because that is why we support him.

We must try to encourage others to see the same.

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By Cilla...Currently living in Spain and lovin' it Aug 12th 2007 at 5:22 pm EDT

Lorraine,

your point is truly on the thing that sets Obama far apart from everyone else in this race. He needs to be himself and that is what brought all these so-called supporters to him in the first place,why change now??? Pepole have put up with GW for eight yrs and if we have gotten this far and survived his blundering language,then Barack Obama has nothing to worry about.

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By Theresa LV Aug 12th 2007 at 7:15 pm EDT

Just support him in every way possible. Do not allow the corporations and their bought and paid for news media make you want to change Senator Obama. You are playing their game once you start criticizing his mannerisms. STOP

The media and the big corporations who own them do NOT want Barack in the whitehouse. He wants to stop their gravy train. Our congressmen and women do NOT want Obama. Our congressmen have one agenda in mind and it's not to do the best they can for America. It is to do all they can for the powerful lobbyists so they can be hired by a lobbying firm. Senator Obama is threatening that. Hillary on the other had will rev up the engines on that train.

There is NOTHING that he can do or say that will ever get him the favorable ratings the MSM give to the bobble head doll who bounces her head in conjunction with the latest poll. So stop trying to change him and just work to get him in office.

Don't forget, HRC gets people to sign on to endorse her by having her buddies pay off old campaign debts and hiring their firms for PR purposes. If Obama paid off someone's debts for his endorsement- what do you think the media would do with that.

Obama 08

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By Dawn Aug 12th 2007 at 5:39 pm EDT

You mean the VOTING public? This is NOT just about the MSM. I don't know your ethnicity, but I'm African American, deeply rooted in the community, and I can tell you first hand that the Senator is suffering a slow bleed. And it has NOTHING to do with reports from the MSM. The Black press, even those who are PERSONAL friends of Senator Obama, like Tavis Smiley, Roland S. Martin, Dwight Wickham, have been enormously disappointed in his debate performances, particularly before Black audiences. The outcry from the Black community after his poor performance at Howard U, my alma mater, was "Obama has to do better." Contrarily, Hillary Clinton has earned rave reviews from the Black press. Are they biased too? No, they're just honest. To put it to you point blank, she out blacks him every time. While he's talking about a larger agenda for America, she's speaking to the plight of the Black Community, particularly the 1.3 million African American males incarcerated. She's so damn good that Black folks lose sight of the fact that her husband largely contributed to that record high incarceration rate. Senator Obama's goals for ALL of America ARE laudable, but that's NOT what the audience SITTING IN FRONT OF HIM wants to hear. I don't care if he is speaking before a Black audience, Latino audience, Labor audience, etc., he has to tailor his message to THAT audience and it has to be delivered crisply and with emotion. He can NOT continue to appear as if he's thinking out loud. This idea that he doesn't need to cator to the voting public is eerily reminiscent of John Kerry and we see how well that turned out. If you don't think he needs to give the VOTING public what they want, are you contending that he is just running symbolically and not running to win?

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By JimmieFromDayton Aug 12th 2007 at 6:53 pm EDT

If you're honest You can't be who you are not. When you try to you get lost in the middle of reality and pretense. Hillary on the other hand has no morals. She can be exactly what black people want. Only problem with it is that she's a liar. It would seem to me that black people should and will vote their economic interest. It's no secret that Senator Obama has done what Clinton only talks about doing. If she out blacks him that's good for her. I reject that catchy one liners will sway the black vote. If they look at her and she seems to be the candidate that best represent their needs then they should vote for her. Barack only responsiblity as I see it is to make sure that the black people know what he has done for the community and what he intends to do for the community. If that's not enough to get the black vote then I for one will live with that. I would be disheartened if Barack were to put on a song and dance just to out Black another candidate. That's absurd! In the end every voter is going to stand in that booth and be responsible for the vote he or she casts. That it, it's just that simple. Yeah I know.... he's not Black enough, well apparently he's not white enough, hispanic enough, gay enough, arab enough. This is a movement of the plural majaority. I for one am glad the he does not pander. Not for the black vote, not for the white vote not for the christain vote. Panderers are liars. If a candidate's position is not clear enough then you are right he should make it clear what he stands for, but you make the arguement that hillary out blacks him therefore when he's speaking to blacks he has to blacken his message. I don't agree with that. He is who he is. Now for some that's not going to be blace enough, or white enough, or latino enough. You can't win them all. What each voter is going to have to understand is that this movement is filled the people who have finally realize that substance is better than being enough like any particular interest. Black,white,latino,gay,or any other issue that the media plays on.

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By Theresa LV Aug 12th 2007 at 7:26 pm EDT

Then maybe it isn't Senator Obama but the black public that had better wise up. Stop listening to sound bites and a phony southern drawl when she's speaking DOWN to the black community. Maybe the leaders in the community should do a better job of communicating the fact that good ole Bill wasn't the saviour they think he was. That they were used by him just like Hillary is using them. Get out of that mind set.

Stand up for a good, decent, honest man.

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By JimmieFromDayton Aug 12th 2007 at 11:46 pm EDT

Nice paraphrase.

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By Carol-STL-MO Aug 14th 2007 at 12:45 am EDT

Theresa,

Thank You for your up-front & honest comment.

I too would like to ask of my brothers & sisters to have the same kind of "courage" & to be "inspired " by the hope that Obama brings to ALL us.

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By JimmieFromDayton Aug 12th 2007 at 6:53 pm EDT

If you're honest You can't be who you are not. When you try to you get lost in the middle of reality and pretense. Hillary on the other hand has no morals. She can be exactly what black people want. Only problem with it is that she's a liar. It would seem to me that black people should and will vote their economic interest. It's no secret that Senator Obama has done what Clinton only talks about doing. If she out blacks him that's good for her. I reject that catchy one liners will sway the black vote. If they look at her and she seems to be the candidate that best represent their needs then they should vote for her. Barack only responsiblity as I see it is to make sure that the black people know what he has done for the community and what he intends to do for the community. If that's not enough to get the black vote then I for one will live with that. I would be disheartened if Barack were to put on a song and dance just to out Black another candidate. That's absurd! In the end every voter is going to stand in that booth and be responsible for the vote he or she casts. That it, it's just that simple. Yeah I know.... he's not Black enough, well apparently he's not white enough, hispanic enough, gay enough, arab enough. This is a movement of the plural majaority. I for one am glad the he does not pander. Not for the black vote, not for the white vote not for the christain vote. Panderers are liars. If a candidate's position is not clear enough then you are right he should make it clear what he stands for, but you make the arguement that hillary out blacks him therefore when he's speaking to blacks he has to blacken his message. I don't agree with that. He is who he is. Now for some that's not going to be blace enough, or white enough, or latino enough. You can't win them all. What each voter is going to have to understand is that this movement is filled the people who have finally realize that substance is better than being enough like any particular interest. Black,white,latino,gay,or any other issue that the media plays on.

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By Dawn Aug 12th 2007 at 7:49 pm EDT

No one is proposing that he do some Stepin' Fetchin' routine or buck dance. That would be absurd! And please don't go there with that 'black enough' crap. That BS has been perpetuated by the Hillary Clinton campaign. Outside of poverty pimpin', play hatin' Al Sharpton, I don't know ANY Black folks questioning Senator Obama's "blackness"; however, they aren't sold on his passion and commitment to the Community, and that's what I mean by "out black" him.

I would never presume to speak for all Black people, but I can only convey to you sentiments being expressed on African American oriented sites, radio and newspapers.

Sometimes I think that '04 speech is a double-edged sword. If not for that speech, it wouldn't be a presidential candiate today, but the speech raised the bar sooooo high that every time he opens his mouth, people expect him to replicate it. And because of that what would be an acceptable or winning performance for any other candidate is considered underwhelming by many.

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By JimmieFromDayton Aug 12th 2007 at 8:28 pm EDT

I would submit to them that he has shown passion about the plight of the minority community. It has been his life's work. So what else would the blacks he wished to represent as president have him do. Deeds speak louder than words. Show me something that hillary has done other than talk. The right to vote carries the responsibility to know what you're voting for. Like I said I have every faith that each person casting a vote is going to cast it for the person they feel most represent their best interest. You say hillary speaks more passionate about the plight of blacks in this country but under a democratic congress with her husband as president legislation was passed that has had the most damaging affect on those same people that she speaks so passionate about. She feels their pain but The Senator Obama has worked for their cause. One of the best answers I thought Senator Obama gave the other day was when he was asked about a national dialog on race relations. The dialog he's most interested in is doing away with laws that descrimate against black males that's the kind of dialog he's interested in. When ask if he thinks america owes blacks and apology he said he'd settle getting them jobs. I loved that! Let move forward. Lets turn the page. I regret that some blacks can't relate to this message but I feel good about what blacks are going to do in that booth. When the hillary machine is not watching.

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By Dawn Aug 12th 2007 at 10:03 pm EDT

Jimmie,

Again, your preaching the choir. You don't need to sell me on Senator Obama's commitment to the Black community; he closed the deal with me in '04. What he hasn't done--through his debate performances--is convince the African American electorate. In that's the only point I was making.

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By Dawn Aug 12th 2007 at 10:03 pm EDT

Jimmie,

Again, your preaching the choir. You don't need to sell me on Senator Obama's commitment to the Black community; he closed the deal with me in '04. What he hasn't done--through his debate performances--is convince the African American electorate. In that's the only point I was making.

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By JimmieFromDayton Aug 12th 2007 at 10:51 pm EDT

OK, you say that he hasn't reached them, I will agree that maybe it's taking longer than we would like for it to take to reach them. I'm just not willing to concede that blacks won't do what's necessary with regard to casting a well informed vote. I may be nieve but JimmieFromDayton is actually a transplant from Georgia and I know a lot of blacks feel that Clinton was the best president to champion their cause since Jimmy Carter I still trust in them as a hole to vote their pocket book. Now If you see something in Senator Obama's positions that needs to be address then I'm all for that but I cant see him trying to beat hillary at her game, that's not what he's about that's not what this movement is about IMHO. There are a lot of different views here in this camp. A coalition of the willing if you would. But one of the things that most of us who are not bleeding heart liberal respect about this candidate is that he's willing to treat the people as a part of this process. You have every right to feel what you feel and I respect that. I think that what everyone is saying is that this is probably something that half agree with you on and half don't. I'm of the opinion that you should be diligent in your support of the Senator's straight talk approach when you are facing those who want someone to be something they are not. If they dont like his style that's something that we his supporters are going to have to help with. We should use our influence to explain where this movement is coming from. I know it might make it a lot easier if the campaign simply took your advice on this issue but again deeds should speak louder than words. So in the face of people saying things like that we need to cut them down with that facts about his record and hers. That's it. If the candidates record and his position can't persuade a person to vote for him I just don't see A person of character doing anything out of his character to appeal to one particular crowd. Sorry that's just how I feel. Good thing about is that tomorrow I'm going to make some more DVDs,and Policy letters.
Obama 08!

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By Dawn Aug 13th 2007 at 8:54 am EDT

Jimmie,

Firstly, my critique of Senator Obama is only for this blog for the purview of Obama staff. I don't believe in complaining without a plan of action and I certainly don't believe in censoring opinion even in the face of mass opposition, so I thank you for respecting my opinion. You and I may not agree on strategy but we share the common goal of getting Senator Obama elected. As far as Clinton truth teling, I'm a one woman Clinton Truth Squad. I developed my own point-counter-point if you will to the myths about the Clinton contributions to the African American Community. I don't frequent this blog as often as I would like because I spend what little free time I have available trying to turn Black folks off of Clinton and onto Obama. Given that this is supposed to be a blog where supporters talk freely, amongst themselves, I'm only sharing with you and others what's being said in the Community. I haven't given up hope BY ANY MEANS, but that shouldn't mean I shouldn't have a place to share the challenges being faced.

All that said, thanks for keeping an open mind and open dialogue.

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By Mehari Aug 12th 2007 at 7:50 pm EDT

FANTASTIC!!

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By Carol-STL-MO Aug 14th 2007 at 12:49 am EDT

Jimmie,

Bottom line---Obama is "real" & WILL deliver !!!

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By Bien-Aime Aug 11th 2007 at 7:59 pm EDT

Blaze
The President does not need any speech lesson. I watched him speak you get goose bumps. What's happening is during an interview or so called debates he gets one of those minefield/gotcha questions, he has to think and articulate a satisfying response. The "humz" "huhz" , whatever, keeps the interlocutor interested letting he/she knows there more answer coming. Remenber this is a campaign every words must be carefully choosen, even when they are, they are not reported correctly. So far the President has been consistent in his answers, so I am very please. By the way Edwards does the same thing occasionally. Finally, The President has a very skilled staff working with him and some very powerfull friends in the communication industry, if they thought this was a problem they would have fix it even before you notice it.

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By Donna NH - Thank you my fellow Granite Staters! Yes we did! Aug 11th 2007 at 9:24 pm EDT

I agree. I think Barack speaks well. A lot of people speak with ums and ahs. It is him. Look where's he's gotten with those thoughtful, considerate ums and ahs. I think people need to more carefully hear what he is saying and not how he is saying it. I'd rather hear a well-thought out response rather with ums and ahs than a well-rehearsed, quickly-released 10 second sound bite. Thank you Barack for being yourself. You are a "real" human being and not a programmed robot.

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By Carol-STL-MO Aug 14th 2007 at 1:00 am EDT

Agree,

Obama's pauses when he speaks are indications of "thought-full",intelligent responses.

(I know we have NOT heard those kind of responses for quite a few years, but that's what they sound like )

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By Phil In the Cuse Aug 11th 2007 at 8:05 pm EDT

To be honest, I have heard about this particular "problem" for months and find, then as now, that it's just not a big issue.
Look what we've had for six-plus years in the White House. Having a president that can put together ANY kind of a coherent thought, much less a complete sentence, will be an improvement on good ol' George W.
Barack thinks before he speaks. Thinking is good. Then when he says it, it's consistent with what he's said before.
Like any good politician with this kind of notoriety, he knows full well that anything he says is monitored closely, and can be turned on him.
He makes sure the message, and his position on the issues, remains steady - and if that means a few "uhs" along the way, that's something I'll gladly accept to have a strong, intelligent and good man in the White House.

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By Dawn Aug 11th 2007 at 9:28 pm EDT

Phil,

Try as you might, you can not deny that debates have been enormously beneficial for Hillary Clinton. Just like George Bush, she has been able to convince an intellectually lazy and uninformed public that she is the most prepared and experienced candidate for the job based on the delivery of her answers NOT the substance. Like it or not, Senator Obama has to learn to play the game the way it's been set up--and it's a sound bite game.

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By Lorraine Aug 11th 2007 at 9:56 pm EDT

There's an interesting article at Politico.com about Hillary emulating George Bush's 2004 campaign because it was so successful against Kerry. When I read it, I realized those are exactly the tactics she's trying to use against Obama right now.

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By Julia from Pasadena Aug 12th 2007 at 10:26 am EDT

Think they will try to do what Rove did to McCain? Start a rumor that he has a black baby? hahah

I heard Barack has not one but TWO black babies. And they are both adorable.

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By JimmieFromDayton Aug 12th 2007 at 2:28 pm EDT

They make take a step farther and claim Senator Obama is Black. hahaha!

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By Dawn Aug 12th 2007 at 5:51 pm EDT

I wrote a diary about the Politico article on 'mydd.com' under my user name 'Dee'. I took the site's owner, Jerome Armstrong, an Edward's supporter, to task for writing a diary two weeks ago accusing Senator Obama and his pollster, Cornell Belcher, also African American, of trying to model Senator Obama's policies after Ronald Reagan's. He even had the tamarity of lecturing them, two Black men, on the effect Ronald Reagan had on the Black community. I considered it nothing short of White eliticism. Contrary to Armstrong's assertions, neither Senator Obama nor Cornell Belcher have ever expressed praised or admiration for Reagan's policies, but rather his ability to reach across the political divide. If he had bothered to reach Senator Obama's writings, he would know how disdainful Senator Obama is of Reagan's policies and their impact on the African American community. In my diary, I made the argument that it was "intellectually dishonest and politically immature' to misconstrue adoption of Reagan's tactics for policies. Well, my diary came under assault with many still contending that Senator Obama was betraying African Americans by drawing any parallels to Ronald Reagan. I responded by asking where is all of this White liberal outrage EVERY time Hillary Clinton invokes Barry Goldwater, a man who opposed the '64 Civil Rights Act and called Brown vs. Board of Education a constitutional abuse. And where was the outrage when Bill Clinton touted his life-long relationship with William Fulbright, a life-long segregationist? I got nothing in response but a bunch of sophmoric BS double-speak.

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By J. Lowe Aug 12th 2007 at 7:52 pm EDT

yeah i wanna know why there are no questions to hill-billy if she still agrees with the philosophy of Goldwater. And didnt she like McCarthy too?

Shhh.... but we dont want to bring that up around here, might mess up the unbstoppable hill-train. Lets not talk about it so therefore it doesnt exist.

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By Phil In the Cuse Aug 11th 2007 at 10:05 pm EDT

Dawn, I don't doubt for a second the sincerity of your concerns, or those of Blaze, and discussions like this are part of the reason why our forum beats all the others - power of free speech!
Debates are important, I agree. But isn't it telling that the pundits, after these debates, fall over each other praising Hillary for sound bites, only to find out, days later, that she reversed herself on key issues to score cheap political points.
In the early states like Iowa and New Hampshire, where they're quite tuned in to the race and where we must do well, Barack is running neck-and-neck with Hillary.
Those voters don't pick based on sound bites. They listen, pay attention, and will make their own decision regardless of what the MSM or pundits say. I am confident Barack will succeed there because of this - and once he gets one win, the flood will follow.
Sure, I wish every word Barack utters would be clear and articulate 100 percent of the time. But I'm much more concerned with him staying true to his beliefs.
Barack can't get slick just for the sake of a clever sound bite. Leave that to Hillary and the others.

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By Dawn Aug 12th 2007 at 6:00 pm EDT

Phil, I understand your point, but like it or not, the media is the echo chamber. Whoever the pundits declare the winner that's the way the next day's headlines are going to read and that's what the public consumes. Until Senator Obama knocks it out of the park--has a defining moment like the '04 speech, that's the way it will remain. And while I agree there is blatant MSM bias in favor of Hillary Clinton, it's not just the MSM. Black media has given Senator Obama lukewarm to poor reviews for his debate and forum appearances before Black audiences, most notably the debate at Howard U. Put it this way, Senator Obama needs to be an audio version of his books. If I had the money, I would mail copies of his books to every registered voter in the country and he wouldn't need to show up at any debate to get a clear majority win in every primary state. But unfortunately, I work for a living. :-) That said, he has to convey the message that we all got from his '04 speech and books at these debates, in 60 seconds.

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By Phil In the Cuse Aug 12th 2007 at 8:17 pm EDT

Dawn, I feel like you are taking way too much abuse for offering constructive criticism. Even though we might disagree on small things, we ought to have the same goal in mind, so whatever I might say, I say in that spirit.
In fact, I agree with you that Barack should not shy from a few knock-out sound bites in these forums that shows he can stand up to Hillary.
Is it fair to ask that he should "punch hard" when necessary, but not rely solely on such sound bites to preserve his intelligent reputation? There's a middle ground somewhere, don't you think?

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By Dawn Aug 13th 2007 at 9:05 am EDT

Absolutely! That is the point of having discussions like this so there can be a consensus or middle ground as you say. That's the type of government that Senator Obama wants to create, and it should be no different on this blog. FAR more important than sharing my opinion, I love hearing other peoples' opinions. These open discussions or debates are healthy--for us and the Campaign.

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By Rick Beaule' Aug 12th 2007 at 10:06 am EDT

My personal opinion is that while they have seemed to be beneficial to her, the MSM has played a large role in that, overinflating her efforts while downplaying/criticizing the other participants. Yet she has lost post-debate focus groups, numerous online polls (though I know that's not the most reliable of sources), and virtually all of the crowd response at the debates. So it seems to me that regardless of whether Mr. Obama refines his speaking style to that of the pandering intellectual, he will still face the same uphill battle. It's the disparity in press coverage that's the problem here.

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By Carol-STL-MO Aug 14th 2007 at 1:08 am EDT

Rick,

The polls, & media stuff right now is "small stuff" in realm of the "big picture" of the campaign right now ---we just need to stay "on track" & "stay focused" on OUR goal.

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By DieHardSupporter Aug 11th 2007 at 8:25 pm EDT

Blaze,
You are absolutely right. It is not what one says, but how one says that counts. Obama does not have to be like Hillary, but he can do better. Many of his answers come up far short of expectations. He is up against the best that this country has (The Clinton machine).

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By Almak Aug 11th 2007 at 8:48 pm EDT

I respectfully disagree that his current thoughtful way of answering these unpredictable questions in a pause and thoughtful is turn off.

I think he is authentic in his responses and has been this way ever since 2001. Which by the way his response to the issue of Iraq was spot on and was delivered in a thoughtful manner.

I also must add that he has really improved in sharpenning his responses to 30-60 seconds sound bites.

I think some improvements need to be done by the so called "spin-doctors" or "spin-masters" on how they do the Q & A after the debates.

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By Velda Aug 11th 2007 at 9:14 pm EDT

I agree. Thinking before and while you speak is not a problem or a "speech impediment." I've also noticed that he's often the only one at debates these days who actually stops talking when the moderator says "time," so he's gotten much better at the whole brevity thing.

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By Dawn Aug 11th 2007 at 8:58 pm EDT

Blaze,

I've been making the same point for months and kicked around on this board for doing so. But pretending the problem doesn't exist is not helping the Senator. Senator Obama reminds me so much of my 14-year-old son: a level of brilliance that far exceeds his years but also with a slight speech impediment when speaking without a prepared speech or talking points. I had to fight tooth and nail to convince him to see a speech therapist. He took offense saying I was questioning his intelligence, but what I tried to explain again and again is that it has NOTHING to do with intelligence. Like Senator Obama, you only need to read my son's writings to know that he is exceedingly thoughtful and intelligent, but those qualities didn't come across in his public speaking. He would stutter and stammer with constant "uh's and annnnnds" just like the Senator and you could actually see the audience get distracted and bored. The same thing is happening with Senator Obama. His answers are far more thoughtful than Hillary Clinton's but because she speaks so crisply, she gives the impression she's saying much when she isn't saying much of anything. Conversely, Senator Obama comes across as meandering. With only a few lessons, my son's speech is far more sharp and crisp. Now he understands that it doesn't matter how brilliant your thoughts if you can't effectively communicate them to others--wasted treasure. Can you imagine how hard Senator Obama will kick himself if a slight and easily corrected speech impediment costs him the presidency?

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By JQ Aug 11th 2007 at 9:31 pm EDT

I think you all have a point, but I think Senator Obama, lets Hillary get away with a lot of the flip-flop statements she makes during the debates.

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By Dawn Aug 12th 2007 at 6:38 pm EDT

Absolutely! He had a wide opening to bring out the FACT that Hillary Clinton went on a radio station only a hours after his foreign policy speech and repeated his comments almost verbatim. David Alexrod made that point in the post debate analysis, but it was too late at that point. One of the few things we all seem to agree on is that the MSM is NOT a friend to Senator Obama, so he can't rely on them to broadcast her flip flops. He as to do that himself.

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By Almak Aug 11th 2007 at 9:39 pm EDT

You have been kicked around because the fact is 1 - Obama does not have a speech impediment like your son that had to see a speech therapist. So for you to use that as an example is not positive criticism.

2 - Obama has had great speeches and has made considerable improvements in sharpening his thoughts to 30-60 secs bites.So again for you to use an example of your son's speech impediment to Obama's way of speaking when answering some Q & A, I would see why folks here would be offended.

3 - You already see when Obama makes these so called "crispy" like HRC sound bites that you refer to you see the misrepresentation taken by the MSM.

He just has to stick to what Barack is. I would rather have someone think there answers and not flip flop like HRC.

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By MW Aug 11th 2007 at 10:31 pm EDT

He hems and haws because he's thinking as he speaks, rather then just spitting out some memorized soundbite.

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By Blaze Aug 11th 2007 at 10:54 pm EDT

Dawn and i are huge Obama supporters , so please , do not take our views on this issue as some type of smear or anything like it.

I've learned a long time ago that sometimes, you have to say certain things to a loved one that he/she may not like to hear but may benefit the person in the future...I feel that if Obama can get a speech coach to correct his delivery,it would benefit him greatly and his delivery would be much crispy and in straight line instead of dozen of pauses on one answer.

It's like noticing that for some reason , Micheal Jordan is not setting up his feet correctly before his jump shoot but you're too afraid to point that out to him because he's Micheal Jordan, one of the best....I hope Obama's staff will have the courage to point this out to him if they hadn't done so already

I've heard that Obama is a proud man and i'm worried to his staff are too afraid to even bring this up to him...Obama clearly has a speech problem where he just stutters too much and sometimes , it gets worse...For example , during his speech at the black jounralist convention in nevada, he was fine , but the Q&A session was a bit shaky.

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By ♋Tanner♋ Aug 11th 2007 at 11:12 pm EDT

In all do respect I understand where you are coming from but there are so many other things to focus on then just how he speaks. Yes, I realize you and Dawn have brought this up several times but so far the people in my neck of the woods didn't talk about his speaking style. They saw someone who seemed genuine and someone who thinks outside the box.

We need to focus on registering voters, educating the public about Barack, and holding the MSM accountable for their bias and irresponsible reporting.

I would love to start a petition drive against the Tucker Carlson show or basically MSNBC altogether and maybe GE will take notice. Let's brainstorm some ideas.

OBAMA '08

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By Blaze Aug 11th 2007 at 11:55 pm EDT

I agree with you on voter registration and this is another issue i have with the campaign.

I dont know whether they are doing some voter registration in the background , but i thought they would be,by now, some type of huge voter registration drive initiative,like the walk for change initiative, launched through this website where the campaign would ask us to seek out unregistered Americans and create some type of fun way to do it.

Some time ago , someone suggested a "voter registration meter" a la fundraising bar that we have on the my.barackobama.com...and every donors on this website job will be to make sure all their friends and family are registered and they could enter the name on their meter etc etc , and whoever was able to register the most voters would get some kind of prize.

You could even have a map to see where the most voters are being registered etc etc..Maybe the campaign could later check through voters database..not show whether this is possible.

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By Carol-STL-MO Aug 14th 2007 at 1:14 am EDT

Blaze,

I asked that Voter Registration Drive question for you guys at Camp Obama-STL & posted the answer to your question on a previous blog on here ( dated 8-10 or 8-11)

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By Randy from Escondido, CA Aug 12th 2007 at 12:54 am EDT

I hope so Blaze,

We can see through trolls quite easily here. We had all the practice we needed with Wayne. I hope you are genuine because if you're not you won't be changing any votes here, so it is a waste of time.

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By Dawn Aug 12th 2007 at 6:24 pm EDT

Can we please desist with the troll accusations! Can we please be more high-minded and less self-righteous. This Obama litmus test is getting really tired. You may question my support, but Sentor Obama wouldn't because I put my money and my time where my mouth is. I'm not wealthy, but I've made the necessary personal financial adjustments to be able to give Senator Obama the maximum allowable amount for the primary season. I don't know who the hell Wayne is and neither do I care. I only care about getting Senator Obama elected and that means not walking around with blinders on pretending that he can run a 'build it and they will come' type of campaign and get elected. If you don't agree me, fine. Ignore me or engage me in a healthy discourse. But you and no one has the right to dismiss or question the loyalty of those who don't agree with you.

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By Sharon Aug 12th 2007 at 9:46 pm EDT

Wayne is gone, so let's get over it and move on to more important issues. Calling people Wayne or Trolls is really not productive to this campaign. You do not know what is in their heart by reading a post. Let's move past this ridiculous Wayne business and get Barack Obama to the White House. Wayne was offensive, obnoxious and ridiculous but you continue to give him power and a voice by referring to him. Lets get positive!

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By wazolangu Aug 12th 2007 at 2:45 am EDT

I think you are very right Blaze and Dawn!

Obama has to learn to present his thoughts straight and swiftly. For instance when Dodd attacked him he stammered and that may show douth on his side, but when he answered the second attack look at the way he presented quickly and straight how it made an impact.

There is a great improvement compare from the first debate maybe he is getting some couching. So don't loss heart. We are family and as in true family not all relatives agree! dont get disapointed you are expressing your truthful consern.

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By Dawn Aug 12th 2007 at 6:11 pm EDT

And you know this how?

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By Dawn Aug 12th 2007 at 6:50 pm EDT

I'm sorry for doing this piece meal, but I didn't fully read your post.

That said, I don't know you mean by some folks what be offended by the comparison between Senator Obama and my son. Let's get this straight, I made the comparison because 1. I don't have any shame about my son. 2. My son may not have a national stage--YET--but he is exceptionally gifted, like Senator Obama, consistently scoring in the highestest percentile on state tests and is in the talented and gifted program in a high school ranked consistently in the top 10 in the country and number 1 in the Washington DC area, which includes DC, MD and VA. 3. I only sought to make the comparison to establish that it ISN'T a sign of weakened intellect or intelligence to have a speech impediment, and it can be easily corrected.

I don't give a damn about you or anyone else taking offense to the comparison. My son is brilliant, even with a slight speech impediment.

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By Strong Heart Aug 12th 2007 at 8:25 pm EDT

Dawn, I really don't know what to say I thought your rants would stop. You have issues with your sons speech differences which you say are minor then compare him to Barack. Then expound endlessly about a problem that only you and a few imagine. I can only feel sorry for your son because I see you as someone who would be very hard to live with. I see no spiritually in you, your heart is cold and chills your tongue. You don't care about people or what you say about them, you would argue with the devil to turn up the heat just for the sake to argue. Not only are you not the political savant you think you are and talk empty words, your heart is also empty!!!

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By Mehari Aug 12th 2007 at 9:00 pm EDT

Strong,
I think you are coming too "strong" on Dawn. I have expressed my disagreement with Dawn. But we shoudn't make this too personal. When we make it too personal and call each other one thing or another the discussion turns about us and about our ego rather than the bigger cause we are trying to accomplish. So, how about if we just agree to disagree and not say things that may be hurtful.

By the way, you have an admirable talent of poetry and most of us are enjoying it.

PEACE!!

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By Strong Heart Aug 12th 2007 at 9:13 pm EDT

I stood up for Dawn before Cilla and thought Dawn would stop her rants, I was wrong, I will not be wrong again!!!

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By Dawn Aug 13th 2007 at 9:22 am EDT

Heart,

I could say a lot of things to you right now but I won't. You and Cilla need to get off your sanctimonous high horses. Who the hell are you to impugn my parenting skills and my spirtuality? You don't know anything about me, my son, or my relationship to God. And having this conversation is some silly BS! If you don't like what I have to say, than just by-pass. You don't control this board!

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By Rick Beaule' Aug 13th 2007 at 10:13 pm EDT

Whoa, there!

I think that all three of you need to take a step back and look at this from a broader perspective. As I've said before, there is room for all of your views.

To Cilla and Strong Heart, both proud, intelligent, and strong supporters of Obama, please allow Dawn her opinion. Degrading her as a person will not achieve anything in swaying her to yours.

To Dawn, please be careful that your fears do not overwhelm your faith and determination. It leads you to coming off as sounding much more negative than I think you are intending to. I always have some extra mustard seeds if you're running short! :)

Folks, we are all in this together! I have spoken many times before about the power of faith. Do NOT let a difference of opinion or a personal reaction to how something is worded allow this blog to degrade into chaos. Keep your cool and respond with the truth. It will win every time.

With love and mustard seeds to all,

Rick

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By Carol-STL-MO Aug 14th 2007 at 1:17 am EDT

Thank You!

Folks our direction is UP --- (on the high road with Obama )!!!!

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By Luevonia "Hussein" Williams Aug 12th 2007 at 10:19 pm EDT

I think that you are imagining that Barack is doing much worse than he actually is. Most people are maying much more attention to what he is saying and not as much to how he is saying it. Besides, like some of the other posters on here have pointed out, the mainstream media (especially CNN), are going to say that Hillary does the best at these debates etc. than Barack (or anyone else), no matter how much Barack changes the way that he speaks.

Don't you see that the problem has to do with the MSM and not with Barack? He is doing fine. They are not doing a good job at being objective, and they should be objective! They are not supposed to be picking candidates, they are supposed to just give us the information and let us decide.

But alas, the MSM has just started telling the truth about Hillary Clinton's unfavorable ratings, and how some Democrats and Democratic insiders are worried that she could not only lose the General Election, but drag down other Democrats running for other offices such as U.S. Senator, U.S. Congressmen/women, Governor, State Legislators, etc.

About time that they started telling the TRUTH about her!

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By Carrington Ward Aug 13th 2007 at 6:49 pm EDT

It's a fair point that he does not come across as strong as he should in the debates. He has trended upwards from one to another, but you are right, the ums and ahs do hurt him somewhat, as they would any recovering academic.

I guess my concern with the 'speech coach' idea is that it is probably not wise at this point in the campaign because the candidate is heavily committed to retail politics in the four lead states.

The primary will not be won on debates and debate prep. It will be won on the four states and the momentum that ensues.

But you will likely see efforts to improve debate performance in the run-up to the convention and the general election.

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By Carrington Ward Aug 13th 2007 at 6:54 pm EDT

Blaze, I appreciate your comments, but I suspect the campaign's focus on retail politics in the four early states will take a priority over debate performance.

The campaign has decided to run with this strategy whole-heartedly, this means ignoring national polls and focusing locally.

It is a high-risk strategy, but that describes the whole campaign.

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By Carol-STL-MO Aug 14th 2007 at 1:28 am EDT

Yes Agree,
the Early States & Campaign Strategy are priority
NOT polls, negative press or miscellaneous bs.

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By Jon Aug 11th 2007 at 9:05 pm EDT

It was good to see the man, himself, Barack Obama here in Las Vegas yesterday.

Getting to shake his hand was amazing. All I could get out was "Thank you."

Which, in a way, is bad because I had wanted to ask him about if he would make more appearances in the media besides the debates... but what can a man do?

He was powerful, inspirational, as usual. Looking forward to this man as our next president. We need him.

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By Kim Aug 11th 2007 at 9:18 pm EDT

Jon,

You're not alone, when I shook his hand in Mpls., "Thank You" was all I could muster too! Deep down, there are so many things I wanted to say, but these two words summed up my appreciation and respect for what he's trying to accomplish for this country.

My guess is that he's getting alot of "Thank You's."

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By Kim Aug 11th 2007 at 9:08 pm EDT

Just returned from the Mpls. Uptown Block Party where six supporters joined for some Barack canvassing. In two short hours, right before the storm, I was able to sign up 16 new supporters. Many more where already signed up in support of Barack. I'm sure the others had just as much success. More tomorrow at a local festival.

O8AMA!

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By vw (Hussien)cat - Because I am very bitter and elitist Aug 11th 2007 at 9:59 pm EDT

If Hillary actually was fighting the right wing machine why is she getting fundraisers thrown for her by Murdoch?
Hillary is part of it. she is just pandering and posturing and the media goes along with it.
Just like they say she is the winner in all the dabates including the last one where she got boo'd

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By Blaze Aug 11th 2007 at 11:00 pm EDT

great news...I love to hear those kind of stories...Keep signing up those potential voters and make sure you keep in touch with them..Ask them whether they would like to vote via absentee ballots so that we are sure they voted for Obama.

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By The Russianolive Aug 12th 2007 at 1:34 am EDT

Hey,

How do you guys feel about an "Experience" rebuttal something like, "If the conventional, Washington experience yields the judgement to athorize the biggest foriegn policy disaster in a generation,...Uh...Well, I just don't want THAT kind of experience."

I'm a big supporter of Sen. Obama. That said, I fully understand that this campaign isn't about slogans or soundbites. Having said that, I think it's imparative that the Obama camp start pounding the idea that experience doesn't equal judgement."

He could end with, "Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld had that kind of Washington experience. But, they had terrible judgement.

One last thing.

No one has ever posted a response to something I've written. I'm not looking for a pat on the back...just a conversation.

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By JimmieFromDayton Aug 12th 2007 at 2:08 am EDT

Good Idea Russianolive, I'm hoping that he will hit those points as well. I do believe, or at least I hope that the campaign is viewing some of these great Ideas. As a matter of fact I wish the moderator of this site was more active here. Someone yesterday came up with an Idea to have a chat room like live interactive area that would let us see who was logged on so that we could better focus our efforts.

Obama 08!

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By The Russianolive Aug 12th 2007 at 2:57 am EDT

Thank you

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By Valorie Aug 12th 2007 at 10:47 am EDT

Russian, I totally agree. I have been saying since the beginning, that Barack needs to hammer in on the "experience" of the warlords in DC. Who has more experience than Cheney and Rumsfeld? Don't forget about all the corruption in congress. He should remind people that there are some that have experience in many "immoral" areas as well.

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By Ray in Maryland Aug 12th 2007 at 5:54 am EDT

I listened to the 30+ minutes of questions that Obama fielded at the National Association of Black Journalists. One of his lines was almost exactly as you suggested - about nobody had more experience than Dick Cheney and Don Rumsfeld, but there judgment wasn't very good.

While I understand the comments about about Obama's pauses, I interpret them as being thoughtful. We need a thinker as president in these challenging times.

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By Rick Beaule' Aug 12th 2007 at 10:08 am EDT

Got a link for that? I'd love to see it.

Rick

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By Foreigner Aug 12th 2007 at 5:56 pm EDT

Go to the nabj website at Link

There are 2 podcasts there: one is 12 mins of Opening Remarks; the other is 31 mins of Q&A

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By Julia from Pasadena Aug 12th 2007 at 10:34 am EDT

Hi,
This whole experience thing really bugs me as a female; Hillary is getting credit for being a wife. I'm sorry, but I can't do my husband's job, and he can't do mine. And Laura Bush isn't collecting any experience, and from what I can tell, she's doing THE SAME THING AS HILLARY.

Ok, Hillary has been in the senate longer than Barack. But she's only been in the workforce a short time. She didn't technically have a job when she was first lady. And when you ask people what her experience is, they say 'well, she PROBABLY sat in on meetings'. Very doubtful. How many meetings does the wife of your CEO sit in on?

How about a simpler slogan:

Hillary - what experience?

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By RAH Aug 12th 2007 at 11:28 am EDT

Actually, Senator Obama's team wrote a memo addressing this very same thing. Click the link. This is on First Read. Read the comments also. Very interesting. I wish they would post that memo on this site.

Link

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By JimmieFromDayton Aug 12th 2007 at 2:44 pm EDT

Nice reminder!

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By Jon Aug 12th 2007 at 9:12 am EDT

I think I commented on that statement on this blog before...

But if I hadn't, I will again:

That statement horrified me. My Republican brother was watching at the same time.

What was she thinking? So now, those of us who are Republican or have voted Republican are contributing to the right-wing machine and are destroyers of the nation? That's what it sounds like she is implying...

Right back to the division politics. So much for working with Republicans. Clinton is the epitomy of division and partisanship.

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By Foreigner Aug 11th 2007 at 9:22 pm EDT

Some bloggers described the session as Barack at his very best :-)

The links didn't come out OK the first time ... let me try again. Two different guys recording.

ENJOY!

Link (9:06)

Link (9:54)

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By MW Aug 11th 2007 at 10:34 pm EDT

Thank you Foreigner!

I've been looking for this for a week. Any idea if someone has a video of the entire session?

Fabulous job by our man! (and I sure hope he means it when he says he can hit back)

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By JQ Aug 11th 2007 at 11:59 pm EDT

This video should be on Barack TV.

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By vw (Hussien)cat - Because I am very bitter and elitist Aug 11th 2007 at 10:06 pm EDT

speaking of debates...has anyone actually heard what Hillary is going to do on issues? she blurrs, ducks and double speaks but, I never hear her say anything on how she is going to address issues. She always says she is working on a plan but, you never see one.
her newest duck of questions is I dont' do hypotheticals.
and the media not only lets her get away with it but, enables and declares her always the winner and gushes over how substantial she is.
what! she is not. But, even getting boo'd doesn't keep them from gushing.
Obama gives substance and they trash him. They are now taking the Hillary plan and using it against him saying he is naive and inexperienced.
What is her experience exactly.
first lady? then, Laura should be able to run as an experienced candidate for prez.
We are fighting against the media machine that is pushing Hillary down our throats.

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By Athena Aug 11th 2007 at 10:51 pm EDT

That's the thing. She has said very little about the issues. SWhe is too sly and careful to commit herself this early lest she should have to flip-flip even more than she already does later, when/if, God Forbid, she is the nominee and feels she has to fight for the votes of conservative republicans.

That woman is capable of calling on the Supreme Court to overturn Roe v. Wade if she thinks it is politically convenient for her. Or, she is equally capable of calling for repeal of the partial-birth ban, should the political winds so direct.

The point is, I have no idea what Hillary would do as President, and nor does she. It will all depend on what the polls say.

And that is what is wrong with too many members with our general public. They back someone without even knowing where she stands. All hot air and no action.

Expect nothing from her on health care any time soon. Not with all those pharmaceuticals backing her. The days of Hillarycare are long gone...

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By cn Aug 11th 2007 at 11:15 pm EDT

yeah I agree. I'm so sick of this Hillary push. I can't believe, can't believe I'm even saying that it exists. I've never believed the talk of media corruption and bias, but these last couple of weeks of completely and utterly misrepresenting what Obama says has me completely shocked and fuming. I don't mind criticism if is fair and balanced reporting. That's part of the job of the media, to be a check to the talk of gov and politicians. But their job is to accurately and objectively portray that. Obama can defend his positions and explain why they are the best. He does owe that to earn the vote (and I think he can successfully do that). But no one can do that if the facts are lied about and misrepresented. However one thing I think we should remember is that the Media pays the bills off of advertisements sold to us, their viewers. If enough of us demand honest and objective reporting (and retractions when they don't do so), then they will have to change that. I don't know if I speak for everyone here, but I'm not demanding bias towards Obama or unobjective reporting in his behave (don't want that, Obama doesn't need that, and I'd be mad if it happened), but I do demand they report honestly whatever the facts are.

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By Jon Aug 12th 2007 at 6:32 pm EDT

I have become convinced that the Clintons are calling in some serious favors or making some incredible promises to the media in exchange for their support. That or they have somehow made seriously strong friendships with the owners of the media news channels.

I'm inclined to believe the latter. In 2005 and 2006, Bill Clinton was meeting with Bill Gates so much that bloggers started spreading rumors that Bill Clinton might be the next Microsoft CEO. MSNBC is a joint venture between Microsoft and NBC. It could explain their favorable coverage. (For those unfamiliar, Bill Gates owns a majority of Microsoft.)
Link

Whatever the case, the Clintons using the media as their personal Public Relations shield is morally wrong on many, many levels. It is one thing to use the media as a form of bias. It is quite another when the media is used to spread mistruths, falsehoods, and lies. We call that propaganda. It is a form of control that should never be utilized in a Democratic country.

The Clinton website is another lie in progress. It disallows free expression. Every comment is screened extensively before being allowed to be posted on the website. Here at barackobama.com, the post goes up immediately. At the Clinton website, it could be hours before a post is allowed to be posted, and then if and only if it meets certain criteria. It must be supportive of the Clintons. Drastically few exceptions are made, and only after the problem was first addressed here on the Barack Obama website.

If the Clintons are willing to use such forms of control, what else would they be willing to do?

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By JimmieFromDayton Aug 12th 2007 at 10:58 pm EDT

What unbelievable is that they actually thought we would let them get away with it. NOT!

Obama 08!

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By MW Aug 11th 2007 at 10:38 pm EDT

This comment today from the official Prince of Darkness, Robert Novak. Whatever you may think of his policies, he knows politics. He says:

"Democratic insiders who are not neutral in the presidential race do not take seriously the USA Today/Gallup poll of Democratic voters showing Sen. Hillary Clinton 23 percentage points ahead of Sen. Barack Obama. They contend national surveys are meaningless because outcomes of the early state contests are still critical.

State polls show a virtual three-way tie among Clinton, Obama and former Sen. John Edwards in Iowa's early caucuses. Clinton has only a narrow lead over Obama in New Hampshire's opening primary. Obama has moved slightly ahead in the latest survey for South Carolina, the next primary state.

A footnote: Mitt Romney collects only 6 percent in the USA Today/Gallup national poll of Republicans but leads in Iowa and New Hampshire. "

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By rich Aug 11th 2007 at 10:58 pm EDT

IMO, something that the Obama campaign needs to work on even harder than it's currently doing -- attracting lower income, less-educated core dem voters:

Link

He charms elites. But how does Obama woo a must-have: 'downscale Dems'?

By Andrew Romano

Newsweek
Aug. 20-27, 2007 issue

...

For the past 40 years, Democratic nominating contests have pitted "wine track" candidates (backed by young, well-off, college-educated elites) against "beer track" opponents (who cultivate a less-educated coalition of minorities and blue-collar workers). The 2008 contest is no exception. According to the latest Cook Political Report survey, Hillary Clinton polls 12 points higher among voters who haven't graduated from college than those who have; Obama's numbers are reversed. His problem: only 34 percent of likely Democratic primary voters have college degrees. "If you don't develop a solid base among downscale Dems, it's very hard to get the nomination," says demographer Ruy Teixeira ... he could end up the latest in a long line of brainy, reformist also-rans like Gary Hart, Paul Tsongas and Bill Bradley.

Which is exactly what Clinton wants ... she is hardly the natural choice for socially conservative, blue-collar Democrats. But because "they're less critical and less informed than upscale voters, they're more inclined to go with the mainstream candidate, at least early on," says Teixeira.

...

Obama's team is undeterred ..."He started his career on the South Side of Chicago," says spokeswoman Candice Tolliver ... His ace in the hole? Race. Even though polls show that blacks still have doubts about Obama, he weathered similar skepticism in the 2004 Illinois Senate primary before winning nearly all of their votes. "He soared with elites initially," says Mark Blumenthal, who polled for Obama's chief rival. "But it took until the last week of the campaign for blacks to decide." If they break his way again, says Blumenthal, Obama could ride a new black-upscale majority to the nomination. For early indicators, staffers are watching low-income, largely black South Carolina where, from April 1 to June 30, the campaign spent $480,000—four times Clinton's investment—to hire staff, stage rallies, organize house meetings and place ads on gospel and R&B radio. The result: an electorate that's more familiar with Obama—and polls that show a dead heat. "We have to do more to reach low-income voters," says South Carolina spokesman Kevin Griffis. But strong numbers heading into the Jan. 29 primary would bode well for Obama

...

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By CW Aug 12th 2007 at 12:18 am EDT

The focus has been on organization and fundraising for the first three quarters as it should. Fundraising attracts wealthier voters for the most part and people who are paying very close attention to the race. In order to attract lower income voters Sen. Obama needs to do more "free" events in those areas. That will also get him some free press in those local areas. Hopefully, the campaign is preparing for that in the future. I think those voters just don't him or his story yet and once that happens I think we have a really good shot at taking this thing.

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By Rick Beaule' Aug 12th 2007 at 11:26 pm EDT

Absolutely correct. Remember the horseracing analogy from earlier this year? Hillary has got Barack right where he wants her. Expect a BIG media blitz after Labor Day, when it counts. I think everyone will be shocked. After all, everyone has contributed all of this money, mostly towards the primary (I really cannot wait for 3rd qtr. money amounts to come out!) I do not think it will simply sit in the campaign war chest. It will get used, and used well.....

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By Mehari Aug 12th 2007 at 8:12 pm EDT

On another page I had written a little piece that was titled "FROM OPRAH'S HOME TO OPRAH'S SHOW" which addresses the issue you are raising. I will paste it here:

"Yes, Oprah's fundraiser at her home will be big.
But what will be bigger is if he goes on her show(at least tonce if not twice) before the primaries. He will reach women at the grass root level effectively and will shatter that little gender gap that he has to overcome and if that happens he is unstoppable. Because the gap is not coming from the highly educated women who go to the internet and the blogs. It is from the section who don't have time to research and make their opinions largely based on what they see on TV. Fundraising is nice and it brings money and publicity but getting more voters makes the ultimate difference at the end of the day. I have in the past communicated this to the campaign but I haven't heard a response".

What do you all think about this idea? If you think it is worth trying then you should contact the HQ as I did and even contact Oprah's show to book him. We have only one chance at helping him win and we don't want say "what if" if we come short at the end.

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By Mehari Aug 12th 2007 at 8:14 pm EDT

By the way we don't have too much time as the schedules for the primaries are moved.

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By Chima "Hussein" Ordu Aug 11th 2007 at 11:49 pm EDT

The only thing that has had me screaming at the TV during the debates is that Senator Obama has not taken the openings to go for the jugular when Hillary has provided it to him. Maybe he's just not interested in destroying anyone onstage, but c'mon!
One example: During the AFL-CIO debate, when Obama got gang tackled on his foreign policy speech, Hillary said "you can think big..bla bla bla, but we do not want to destabilize a nuclear power bla bla bla....", obviously an answer she had rehearsed. Senator Obama should have immediately jumped on Hillary and asked "Well Senator Clinton, if that is your position, then why did you say the exact same thing when you were asked about it by a reporter?" Of course, that would have stung Hillary into a daze, and the Senator would have landed the KO by adding "...and while you are at it, Senator Clinton, also explain why in 2006 you said nuclear weapons were off the table in terms on Iran, yet you criticize me for doing the same thing in terms of Pakistan."

Game-set-match.
The debate would have been over.

Senator Obama can still do this, because there are more debates coming, and he needs to slam Hillary for her hypocrisy. Someone..please please please take note of this post and use these answers in yout debate preps. PLEASE!

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By JQ Aug 12th 2007 at 1:00 am EDT

Chima, The sad thing is Senator Obama, addressed this issue after the debate, at the National Association of Black Journalists convention in Las Vegas.

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By The Easley's Aug 12th 2007 at 1:51 am EDT

We agree. HRC has left herself open on these issues but Barack has to be on top of her during debates (especially nationally televised) because MSM won't show the clips where he's scoring on HRC with a "slam dunk".

If everyone recalls during the Yearly Kos debate HRC got booed when defending her position on lobbyists. Most of the clips in the MSM focused on the audience booing but not the video of Baracks response which led to a standing ovation by many in the audience.

One of the most effective ways to debate and discredit HRC on important issues is to firmly point out the fact that when HRC takes the same position that Barack does but flip flops and attacks him for it later, she is in fact being irresponsible to the american people in that she isn't clearly communicating where she stands.

How about the HRC interview with Keith Olbermann? Yes, Keith Olbermann the very same moderator of the MSNBC AFL-CIO debates. Keith Olbermann asked HRC in a earlier interview: "Would you reach out IMMEDIATELY to the Syrians and Iranians even with the tensions between this country and Iraq?

HRC's response: "ABSOLUTELY"! "I don't see it as a sign of weakness, I see it as a sign of strength". "You know, our President will not talk to people he considers bad". "Well there are a lot of bad actors in the world and you don't make piece with your friends". "You got to deal with your enemies, your opponents, people who's interest diverge from yours".

Barack can simply tell the truth and look good doing it without attacking her with "slash" and "burn" politics. He would be sharing the facts based on exactly what HRC has said. People can easily begin to figure out that calling your most competitive opponent (Barack) "irresponsible and naive" while making basically the same statement during an interview with the moderator of the debate your in doesn't bode well for credability or experience. MSM would have to address such a gaffe over and over again. If not they will soon begin the risk of appearing so bias that any voter that's not 100% an HRC supporter has to conclude politics as usual and that ultimately HRC and the MSM don't represent or report real change for America's future Presidential leadership.

Here's the link that inludes a clip from the Olbermann interview:

Link

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By Rick Beaule' Aug 12th 2007 at 11:28 pm EDT

Patience, folks. It'll happen. I'm truly surprised by it, but Hillary just keeps giving herself more rope to hang herself with. I'm betting there will be a flurry of press releases, memos, and media ads that come out after Labor Day, pointing all of this out plus expounding on Barack's actual advantage in experience. She won't know what hit her.

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By Cilla...Currently living in Spain and lovin' it Aug 12th 2007 at 3:45 pm EDT

you are spot on Shane.

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By Dawn Aug 12th 2007 at 5:17 pm EDT

Cilla,

You are absolutely becoming comical at this point. You remind me a lot of a Hillary Clinton supporter that frequents 'mydd.com' that goes by the name 'areyouready'. I suspect he lives a very sheltered life, blogging all day from his momma's basement. I recently told him that he is so far up Hillary Clinton's behind that her butt cheeks are like blinders. I won't say the same about you because I do appreciate and respect your loyalty to the Senator, but I must say that your holier than thou attitude or Obamier than thou attitude in this case and self-righteousness is as repulsive as his. Like him and other Clinton supporters, you don't value discourse or dissent, which is more like fascism than Obamaism.

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By Cilla...Currently living in Spain and lovin' it Aug 12th 2007 at 6:12 pm EDT

?????? WOW!!!!LMOLROTF.GEE, I hope all the people that are from NYC are reading this right now because I have been holding back on my comments. If this is the case and this is what this blog has become,then maybe we NYCers need to take a deeper look at what we truly want,and who we want our EFFORTS IN CANVASSING,VOTER REGISTRATION TO DO AND GETTING THE FACTS ABOUT OBAMA TO A STATE THAT IS LARGER THAN VA,AND HOLDS A LOT OF IMPORTANCE WHERE INDEPENDENTS ARE. Maybe it's time for me to take a look at who and what this campaign is becoming. MAYBE II IS NOT WHAT IS WAS A FEW MONTHS AGO. Now I am supposed to go to camp Obama next week here in NYC and maybe I will adress all my concerns about what is going on on this blog with the supporters that Obama is looking for,it won't be very up-lifting for the NYC crowd when I explain the attacks that have come to one of Obama's hardest supporters and organizers in this city. We do have options and I think it is time we look at ours in NYC. Maybe this is not the place for us,we will have to concider what has just happened.

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By Dawn Aug 12th 2007 at 7:05 pm EDT

This is beyond the pale! I can not believe that you would actually propose ALOUD going in front of a group of Americans, who purportedly value the constitution, to complain about someone excercising free speech???

And as for your politically inestuteness, Governor Kane of VA is the biggest political endorsement that Senator Obama has to date. Senator Obama is likely to pick former VA Governor, Mark Warner, has his running mate, which would put VA in play in the general election for the first time since LBJ won the state. So if you think that VA is not important you are more delusional than I suspected.

This sense of ownership you have with Senator Obama has clearly developed into a form of insanity.

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By Dawn Aug 12th 2007 at 7:28 pm EDT

Cilla,

I'm not going to waste my energy responding to you again, but I think it's important that this your message be highlighted. You are actually threatening to shift your support to another candidate because of our differing views!!!

Perhaps you should shift your support to Hillary Clinton because you sound a lot like her. I've asked you repeatedly stop responding to me or about me, but you've continued to make every effort to smear me, so when I tell you I'm tired of your self-righteous and self-serving attitude, you cry foul and threaten to organize a NY revolt against Senator Obama because it's all about you.

You are truly special!

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By Dawn Aug 12th 2007 at 5:04 pm EDT

Shane,

I'm not going to outright dismiss your views as you have done with mine, but I will say I find it interesting that you're only refutation is a comparison to George Bush. You're certainly not going to get any argument from me about the idiocy of George Bush, but I think it's worth reminding that George Bush won two terms in office, not because he was the smartest guy in the race--far from it--but because he had a smart and savy campaign team that well prepared him on the campaign trail and at debates. And Hillary Clinton's team is no less savy and smart. They have allowed to dress up her BS to the point, that many in our party don't believe that woman's sh*t stinks. As I said, Senator Obama may win the moral victory but unless he improves his debate performances and on camera interviews (2006 or 07 with Tim Russert withstanding), that's all hell win--a moral victory.

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By Mehari Aug 12th 2007 at 5:30 pm EDT

I watched Barack Obama's interview on "Tim Russert" promoting his book "The Audacity of Hope" in November 2006. It is so moving that I don't mind watching it again and again. I did not see any "speech impediment" quite the contrary, he is very unique in his presentation that he is like no other politician that I know. Even by his rivals fromm the senate he is acknowledged as Brilliantly "articulate" and is not fair to attempt to draw a parallel wit a kid with a speech impediment that did well with therapy. Senator Obama has way past that and accomplished a lot and is well recognized for his communication skills. granted he is not Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton or the other black politicians who have a poetic and fiery speech style . He is just different.

I have seen several comments on this web page criticizing his style of delivery. I think expecting him to deliver his thoughts differently is missing the point that he is unique. He is smart and extremely knowledgable but at the same time he is plain spoken. He can deliver a speech at a national convention that electrifies the audience but he can also talk in a conversational style that captures his audiences attention. He has an exceptional ability of presenting ideas with clarity and candor that other politicians present in a way that is not understandable out of Washington D.C. It is not that the other candidates have better speech coaches or are more articulate,rather the other candidates response is carefully scripted NOT TO MAKE MISTAKES and NOT TO LOSE in the eyes of the MSM and the Washington insiders while Obama's response is deliver THOUGHTFULLY with CLARITY and CANDOR TO WIN the hearts and minds of the American people.That's why his campaign is catching fire and is the most talked about campaign. So for a change thanks to Barack Obama this political season we are experiencing a different phenomenon from unique and inspirational leader
and we should just enjoy it and contribute positively to his campaign.

LET BARACK OBAMA BE BARACK OBAMA!

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By Dawn Aug 12th 2007 at 7:11 pm EDT

Mehari,

Please re-read my comments. If you do, with an open mind, you will see that we are NOT in disagreement. As far as I'm concerned, Senator Obama is this nation's political savior! I'm not an especially religious person, but I pray for that man every single night. I get him; you get him; everyone on this board gets him! But please let pretend that this board full of supporters is a microcosm for the majority of the country. They don't get him, so that means he has to use the large medium he has available--nationally televised debates--to get his message across. My only point is that he has to be able to communicate to the rest of the country what WE ALREADY KNOW: HE'S BRILLIANT, UNIQUE, AND THE BEST DAMN HOPE FOR THIS COUNTRY!

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By Dawn Aug 12th 2007 at 7:13 pm EDT

Sorry for the typos. "Let's NOT pretend..."

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By Carol-STL-MO Aug 14th 2007 at 12:28 am EDT

Yes, A none issue

Atleast what comes out of Obama's mouth is brilliant!!! ----( sure can't say the same about Bush, HRC, or for that matter ---any of the competition )

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By Carol-STL-MO Aug 14th 2007 at 12:14 am EDT

HRC does NOT care --- Basically she will tell you & any group she is taking to "what they want to hear" but will NOT back it up if you give her your vote.

On the other hand Obama is being totally honest & upfront with you, & that is what you will see if we elect him our President. Yes he's authentic & you CAN trust him !!!

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By Cilla...Currently living in Spain and lovin' it Aug 12th 2007 at 5:29 pm EDT

Shane,

always look closely at how many times one critizes and critques. If they only have critizing the cnadidate,without any positive mention then take it with a grain of salt. Moving right along. More important issues to get at in this campaign.

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By Kim Aug 12th 2007 at 8:49 pm EDT

Agreed, let's discuss them.

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By Lorraine Aug 12th 2007 at 9:33 pm EDT

Hey, everyone! We all want the best for Barack and for him to get elelcted! We will all disagree a bit once in a while! (I got annoyed about the NASCAR comment, but after a nice cup of tea, considered the matter over).

Let's get back to doing what we do best - discussing the important messages Barack brings to this campaign and what positive things we can all do to help!

"Let's Try!" | Report to Admin

By Meaza Aug 12th 2007 at 12:50 am EDT

YES! Finally somebody said something! I am glad Barack took the time to address this irrelevant but something that has been lingering around and keeps confusing both black and white community. Again, there are a lot more important issues that we should ask than this “is-he-black-enough" insanity.

If we believe every human being either here America or through out the world should have equal chance and opportunity in life, we need to march together with Barack in order to make it happen. (He is the hope of the past, present and the future!).

We need to ask ourselves, what should we do in order to bring this change? Do we sit and blame other for what went wrong? Do we wait and hope for others to fight for black cause or do we want to be part of that game and win!

I think Barack said it well, "Let's try!" let's not give up before we even try... that's not what our great-great parents thought us! That’s not what they fought for! That was not Dr. Martin Luther king's dream!

I say, if... we all take this campaign as our own call, if … we all take this campaign as our own vision and goal, I believe we are in the verge of making a significant historical moment in American history!!!

Together we can make a difference, separate we fall!

Meaza from MN

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By Julia from Pasadena Aug 12th 2007 at 10:43 am EDT

This whole 'he's not black enough' is puzzling. From what I can tell, he's the blackest person running.

That's how I respond. And I do have white people telling me that black people won't vote for Obama 'cause he's not black enough.

I'm not voting for him because he's black. I'm voting for him because he best represents me.

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By Carol-STL-MO Aug 14th 2007 at 1:45 am EDT

Julia,

That's really not even an issue --- (it reminds me of the skit they did on "Saturday Night Live" making fun of it ---- where a couple of the SNL crew dressed up as Jessie Jackson & Sharpton & proceeded to point out differences in skin tone).

Obama on CNBC | Report to Admin

By Greg from IL Aug 12th 2007 at 1:29 am EDT

They're showing an old interview with Barack Obama on CNBC right now 1230am central time.

Its with Tim Russert back when "The Audacity Of Hope" came out.

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By The Easley's Aug 12th 2007 at 1:54 am EDT

Thanks. We are watching it now.

Re: Obama polling at approx 7% among republicans | Report to Admin

By ObamaAlumni Aug 12th 2007 at 2:47 am EDT

Has anyone seen this from talkingpoints.com

Giuliani’s support, 10 percent, decreased by almost 8.5 percent. McCain’s support has collapsed in Iowa. His support among registered Republicans dropped from 14.4 percent in March to 1.8 percent in July-August. UI political scientists note that McCain has been passed in popularity not only by former Sen. Fred Thompson, R-Tenn., who earned 5.2 percent support, but also by a Democratic challenger, Obama, who is supported by 6.7 percent of Republicans. No other candidate received more than 3 percent support. (emphasis added)

Barack's speech etc at NABJ | Report to Admin

By Foreigner Aug 12th 2007 at 3:17 am EDT

Audio podcast of Barack's words at NABJ

31 mins Q&A is at Link

12 mins Opening Remarks is at Link

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By ObamaAlumni Aug 12th 2007 at 5:47 am EDT

This was good, I would be interested in what these journalist write in the home papers. I wish he wouldve been stronger on the question of intitating a discussion on race in america.
As a group our biggest "problem" as african Americans is not white americans or latin americans or other minorites.

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By Garth100 Aug 12th 2007 at 6:30 am EDT

Blaze,

You made some interesting observations and comments. Also, your intent is wholesome and I do appreciate it. Being someone who stuttered throughout my formative years- but eventually got over it- I can say with some degree of certainty that Obama's so-called stutter is not a speech impediment. It is clearly habitual. However, I believe it comes from simply the delay in aligning a terrific thought process with speech.
1. He is actually thinking about his responses- even for question that he has a clear position on. As a result of this, his message (uncanned response) comes across as more authentic. This is good in the longterm because it prevents him from conflicting himself like 'Canned Expert Hillary'.
2. Obama always attempts to give us very substantive and balance responses (here I see more a professor and not a politician).
3. Obama is amazing to be giving so many speeches so eloquently rarely looking on his script. He is particularly gifted at that.
4. For the most part he speaks in complete sentences and paragraphgs. Now that is simply amazing. Simply compare his response to the other candidates.

Nevertheless,he does have a number of undesirably "ahhs" but remember that his entire campaign -as one staff member described it- is like building a jet plane in mid-flight. To absorb so much information in so little time is an amazing feat. He will easily remove those "ahhs" when he is relaxed in the white house.

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By Garth100 Aug 12th 2007 at 6:32 am EDT

I do believe though that sometimes he gives his audience too much credit by his comprehensive responses which only give the msm more material to mis-report.

Lastly, some people only notice this because everybody is raving how "articulate" he is. They would not have noticed otherwise. Anyway, I don't think it is a significant campaign issue.

Change | Report to Admin

By Strong Heart Aug 12th 2007 at 6:56 am EDT

It is the hour to rend thy chains, the blossom time of souls.
Katharine Lee Bates

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By Strong Heart Aug 12th 2007 at 6:59 am EDT

America The Beautiful

Link

Katharine Lee Bates

God Bless!!! | Report to Admin

By Strong Heart Aug 12th 2007 at 7:11 am EDT

For The Victims of the Bridge Collapse

Link

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By Strong Heart Aug 12th 2007 at 7:14 am EDT

For The Miners

Link

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By Strong Heart Aug 12th 2007 at 7:24 am EDT

Look Up, Stand Up, Speak Up, Vote Up, Rise Up, America!!!

Better Times for A Better People, Obama 08

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By Strong Heart Aug 12th 2007 at 11:15 am EDT

Maybe,

Better People for Better Times, Obama 08

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By JimmieFromDayton Aug 12th 2007 at 2:48 pm EDT

Our hearts and prayers , go out to the miners and their families, as well as to the families of the teens slain in New Jersey! We have got to take our country back!

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By Carol-STL-MO Aug 14th 2007 at 1:47 am EDT

Fantastic Quote !!

USE OF NUCLEAR WEAPON | Report to Admin

By Foreigner Aug 12th 2007 at 6:57 am EDT

KUCINICH ON THE NUCLEAR ISSUE

Just saw this Truthdig interview exclusive with Kucinich at Link

QUOTE:
Kasia Anderson: What’s your reaction to Sen. Clinton’s comeback to Sen. Obama about the possibility of using nuclear weapons against terrorists in Pakistan or Afghanistan?

Dennis Kucinich: I think that that single comment by Sen. Clinton raises questions about her fitness for the presidency.
UNQUOTE

Good night... and God bless us all, friend and foe!

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By Theresa LV Aug 12th 2007 at 7:39 pm EDT

Go Dennis. If he had said that on Hardball, etc. it would have been bleeped out of the segment.

UPDATE | Report to Admin

By Danielle Clarke USA Vietnam Vet Aug 12th 2007 at 7:33 am EDT

UPDATE

Who's your candidate?

45% Barack Obama

25% Dennis Kucinich

14% Hillary Clinton

8% Mike Gravel

5% John Edwards

3% Bill Richardson

to read the full transcrip of the gay debates

go here = Link

Next Page | Report to Admin

By Strong Heart Aug 12th 2007 at 7:53 am EDT

Some people choose a book for its cover; some ignore the cover for the book. I just pick up the book and Turn The Page!!!

CHAT ROOM LINK NEEDED | Report to Admin

By Blaze Aug 12th 2007 at 7:59 am EDT

Yesterday,someone suggested the creation of a chatroom link so that regular supporters who visits this website would be better able to communicate among each other and share their ideas....it would be so much better then blogging.

is that too much to ask?

we could do so much more with an official obama chatlink including trying to drive participation by posting the link everywhere possible so people could come learn about obama stances on issues from his supporters in real time.

we would also be able to see how many people are participating...all supporters would be chatting under their obama-username while visitors would just chat under 'visitors-1 or 2,3 etc etc..

visitors that are interested would then have the option of create an account and join the team.

it could be worth it.

Re: CHAT ROOM LINK NEEDED =* NOT* ! ! ! | Report to Admin

By Danielle Clarke USA Vietnam Vet Aug 12th 2007 at 9:49 am EDT

It may serve a purpose for those seeking to only chat but the blogs do help in giving us access to links and information that would be hard to find in chat logs (if they were accessable)

We are here to learn what we can do and where we can go and act on important information.

Another major point is that outsiders peeking in can easily see that we are an OPEN site unlike the other candidates sites.

I personally would hate to see many going to a chat room and there would be no way for people coming at later times to refute a chatters message if it were untrue.

Some chatters seem to be able to carry more wieght in their conversations than others which could be a bad thing and push others away.

This blogging allows all people to check in and be able to refute a powerful writer who may be bringing false information.

Anyway thats my feelings.

Re: CHAT ROOM LINK NEEDED =* NOT* ! ! ! | Report to Admin

By JimmieFromDayton Aug 12th 2007 at 12:18 pm EDT

Yeah, you could be right about that. We do how ever need more interaction with the webmaster or a representative. We could at least have a an optional log in on the blog. For those that feel they could organize better. Or at least a section here that we could see the status or non status of some of the ideas that are being presented here.

It may dissappoint supporters from time to time but I think we could move on to other ideas if those have been rejected. We've got to sharpen our focus here on not only discussing the policy but addressing this media outrage as well. IMHO

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By Carol-STL-MO Aug 12th 2007 at 8:01 pm EDT

Blaze,

At Camp Obama in St Louis yesterday I asked your question about any Obama Chat Rooms --(if or when ). "Students for Obama" are working on setting one up right now & they are doing alot of other really great things under"Students" including setting up voter registrations, events & setting up contact offices in each state.
(James Hannaway is in charge of SFBO) so I would contact him directly with any ideas, comments etc you may have )

Under the regular BarckObama.com --- they also are addressing setting up a chat room so they are working on it.

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By J. Lowe Aug 12th 2007 at 8:10 pm EDT

nah. i like that the blog is separated from the space/time continuum. it is searchable, and i get to hang out with you even though i didnt see any part of 8am this morning.

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By Strong Heart Aug 12th 2007 at 8:13 am EDT

Hope without Faith is like sleep without dreams...

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By TomG Aug 12th 2007 at 8:22 am EDT

This is a monumental time in our American, our human, history...Have the courage to seize it...

Toll | Report to Admin

By Strong Heart Aug 12th 2007 at 8:24 am EDT

3-6-8-9, That’s 3689, the numbers of soldiers killed in Iraq, Figures supported by Hillary Inc.

Voter Fraud | Report to Admin

By ShaniKeys Aug 12th 2007 at 9:06 am EDT

Link listen to the reaction of the crowd when Ron Paul is announced 5th at the straw poll and Mitt Romney is announced 1st. And then tell me what's going on. We might go through the same with our candidate, in fact we already are going through the same with those bs national polls!!!!

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By ShaniKeys Aug 12th 2007 at 9:13 am EDT

Click on 'politics' and watch the video called 'the results are in', listen to the reaction of the crowd. The boos I mean

Obama: Enough with the 'black enough' talk | Report to Admin

By Kim from Corning Aug 12th 2007 at 9:55 am EDT

Check out this link at CNN's blogspot. Obama let em have it regarding this frankly stupid complaint. I think Obama answered it really well.
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Barack's answer to if he's black enough | Report to Admin

By JQ Aug 12th 2007 at 9:57 am EDT

Click on this link,then scroll down the video list and click on the Obama: black enough?Link

Re: Something a little different.... | Report to Admin

By Rick Beaule' Aug 12th 2007 at 10:23 am EDT

Here's an article I found in the Sunday Pittsburgh Post-Gazette about the candidates' wives. Enjoy!

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Rick

Mustard seeds.....is it in you?

Re: Something a little different.... | Report to Admin

By Valorie Aug 12th 2007 at 10:55 am EDT

Oprah needs to have Michelle on her show. Why hasn't Oprah been talking about him and where he stands. I know she is having a fund - raiser, but there is so much more she could use her power for. I wish she would start a 527 and get millions for more ads.

Re: Something a little different.... | Report to Admin

By Kim Aug 12th 2007 at 11:28 am EDT

What would be nice is if Oprah would give Barack supporters some air time on her radio show. Exclusive Barack talk....aahhh..

Re: Something a little different.... | Report to Admin

By Mid America Mom Aug 12th 2007 at 12:00 pm EDT

Well there are restrictions on giving time since she is a supporter.

So though we wish for more - and she may do it- it really is not allowed.

Much like how arnold's movies (when he ran in CA) and if Fred Thompson gets into the race- law and order reruns-there will be restrictions on showing them.

Re: Something a little different.... | Report to Admin

By ShaniKeys Aug 12th 2007 at 12:03 pm EDT

The Obama couple has been on Oprah twice, Barack Obama has been to Oprah's radio programme too. It's all on oprah.com, search the name "obama".

Re: Something a little different.... | Report to Admin

By Sharon Aug 12th 2007 at 3:54 pm EDT

I, too, have wondered why Oprah is not saying more at this point. However, I then realized that she is probably holding back at this point intentionally because she has the confidence in his ability to speak for himself. If she were to promote him aggressively, the press would eat this up and say that he is gaining on Hillary because of her and her influence with women. Let's trust Oprah and wait a bit. I suspect she will come out more strongly as we get close to the primaries if he needs her.

Re: Something a little different.... | Report to Admin

By Carol-STL-MO Aug 14th 2007 at 1:53 am EDT

Yes,

I'd love to see Michelle on Oprah's show.
Talk about ratings & good press !!!

Re: Barack's answer to if he's black enough | Report to Admin

By Kim from Corning Aug 12th 2007 at 2:28 pm EDT

LOL! When I was in college, I had a Black professor for one of my classes. He was late a few times and once when he came in about 10 minutes past the hour, he informed his all white students that he was on CP time. We all looked back at him and he told us he was on "Colored-People-Time"....."you know, we shuffle along i/o of walk like you white folks do".
That was along time ago and I never heard it since. Funny that Obama should use that old slightly racist chestnut as
opening joke like my professor did way back then.

Re: Something a little different.... | Report to Admin

By Strong Heart Aug 12th 2007 at 11:19 am EDT

I think Barack is pitching a no hitter, the other team is only hitting foul balls!!!

Re: Something a little different.... | Report to Admin

By Arizona Grandma who needs affordable health insurance Aug 12th 2007 at 12:02 pm EDT

I think Hillary keeps trying to "knock it out of the park" and, instead, strikes out. Barack knows that sometimes all it takes is a little blooper over the second baseman to win the series! (Gonzo - 7th game - bottom of the 9th - World Series - AZ Diamondbacks!)

Barack and the culinary workers | Report to Admin

By Athena Aug 12th 2007 at 11:37 am EDT

Has anyone seen the video posted in Barack TV of Obama speaking to the Culinary Workers' Union?

What can I say... Truly amazing. He told really moving stories about his experiences with the SEIU worker he spent the morning with, and he managed to make very effective points about the need for higher wages and health insurance for the working poor. He related a really funny anecdote about a visit he made to a hamlet in South Carolina. He got plenty of laughs - a great reception from the crowd.

More importantly, he pledged to picket with the workers if necessary in a really compelling way. I had read the press reports on this, but I had not known how great his speech was.

His oratory skills were back too. He was really fired up and ready to go. He said he would put on his sunscreen, wear a hat, and walk out in the Vegas sun and picket. He said he had been practicing by walking so as to get his feet in shape!

I don't know what has gotten into me, but I get so inspired whenever I hear him talk. Thank God for video; thank God for the Internet. They enable a sadly reclusive inside-the-Beltway resident like me to get to know him, in a sense.

He MUST get elected!

A CHANGE WORTH DEBATE | Report to Admin

By DAN R. TAYLOR Aug 12th 2007 at 11:39 am EDT

CHANGING THE POLITICAL PROCESS
OR CAMPAIGN REFORM
OR RETURNING THE GOVERNMENT TO THE PEOPLE

One of the most important decisions any President makes is the appointment of his cabinet. The United States Cabinet (usually simplified as "the Cabinet") is composed of the most senior appointed officers of the executive branch of the federal government of the United States, and its existence dates back to the first American President (George Washington), who appointed a Cabinet of four people (Secretary of State, Thomas Jefferson; Secretary of the Treasury, Alexander Hamilton; Secretary of War, Henry Knox; and Attorney General, Edmund Randolph) to advise and assist him in his duties. Cabinet officers are nominated by the President and then presented to the United States Senate for confirmation or rejection by a simple majority. If approved, they are sworn in, receive the title "Secretary," (except the Attorney General) and begin their duties.

Though the Cabinet is still an important organ of bureaucratic management, in recent years, the Cabinet has generally declined in relevance as a policy making body. Starting with President Franklin Roosevelt, the trend has been for Presidents to act through the Executive Office of the President or the National Security Council rather than through the Cabinet. This has created a situation in which non-Cabinet officials such as the White House Chief of Staff, the Director of the Office of Management and Budget, and the National Security Advisor have power as large as or larger than some Cabinet officials.

I would submit that the time has long pass to return the Presidential Cabinet to the consenus building body the authors of our Constitution had envision. It is clear from our Constitution that the President is to nominate Cabient level positions and seek approval from the Congress. I would carry this one step further.

ANY CANIDATE SEEKING THE OFFICE OF PRESIDENT SHALL PUBLICLY DISCLOSE THE CABIENT HE/SHE WOULD SEND TO CONGRESS SIX MONTHS PRIOR TO THE FIRST PRIMARY OF HIS OR HER PARTY.

LAWWIZARD ALHAMBRA CALIFORNIA
PROPOSAL FOR PRESIDENTIAL ELECT BARACK OBAMA'S CABIENT WE WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE - LET'S TAKE BACK AMERICA: THIS ISSUE NEEDS TO BE FACED NOW

Secretary of State BILL CLINTON
Secretary of the Treasury BERNIE SANDERS
Secretary of Peace DENNIS KUCINICH(to be created)
Secretary of Defense WESLEY CLARK
Attorney General HILLARY CLINTON
Secretary of the Interior BILL RICHARDSON
Secretary of Agriculture EVAN BAYH
Secretary of Commerce TOM DASCHLE
Secretary of

Re: A CHANGE WORTH DEBATE | Report to Admin

By Jon Aug 12th 2007 at 6:37 pm EDT

The Clintons do not belong in the White House in any way, shape, or form.

SecState Bill Clinton?
Attorney General Hillary Clinton?

No. If we allowed that to happen, we'd begin a very sharp, harsh downward spiral in this country.

Sunday talk shows | Report to Admin

By Chima "Hussein" Ordu Aug 12th 2007 at 11:49 am EDT

Just finished watching the Sunday talk shows, and of course, virtually ALL the pundits waxed poetic about how wonderful HRC is and how "disciplined" she is on the campaign trail and how the national polls are showing her inevitability bla bla bla. The only pundit who spoke the truth was Fareed Zakaria on ABC News this week, who said that the result of HRC being so discplined and on message is that she is not saying anything of substance.

I wonder why the same panel had notorious HRC lapdog Donna Brazille on. She kept talking about how HRC was fantastic and how Obama needed to "come up with a second act", whatever the hell that meant.

On Meet the Press, Hillary's flip flop on nukes being on the table was finally discussed, but the panel danced around the blatant hypocrisy of it all, and dismissed it as "politics as usual".

This is why I wish Senator Obama had slammed her right there on the stage during the AFL-CIO debate about her flip flop.

Who is doing the opposition research for Obama's campaign? I mean...c'mon for Pete's sakes! You guys are letting the Senator down...there is so much ammunition out there for him to use to call out HRC, but you have to provide him with it.

I'm getting pissed off now.

Next Sunday is the IOWA debate....I hope for the love of God that Obama's opposition research team has provided him with the exact quotes from HRC on talking to rogue leaders, and nukes being off the table, and her flip flop on actionable intelligence on Al Qaeda targets in Pakistan. One more thing please....if the Iraq war comes up for debate next Sunday...please please please Senator Obama should ask Hillary to explain to America why she was opposed to a timetable for withdrawal in 2006, but voted for a timetable for withdrawal in 2007.

Can you do this please?

Thank you!!

Re: Sunday talk shows | Report to Admin

By TomG Aug 12th 2007 at 11:57 am EDT

What does Hillary stand for?

Re: Sunday talk shows | Report to Admin

By Athena Aug 12th 2007 at 12:58 pm EDT

I don't think she knows. It depends on what the polls tell her.

Re: Sunday talk shows | Report to Admin

By Carol-STL-MO Aug 14th 2007 at 1:56 am EDT

Whatever "script" Bill gives her to apease her audience !!

Re: Sunday talk shows | Report to Admin

By Strong Heart Aug 12th 2007 at 11:58 am EDT

The Dark Queen and her Mumbo-Jumbo

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By Strong Heart Aug 12th 2007 at 12:17 pm EDT

Link

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By ShaniKeys Aug 12th 2007 at 12:18 pm EDT

Thanks for the link, let's save the internet, this is outrageous.

Re: Sunday talk shows | Report to Admin

By Strong Heart Aug 12th 2007 at 12:23 pm EDT

The Dark Queen does support net neutrally now, but what about after the election. She does like Lobbyist…

Re: Sunday talk shows | Report to Admin

By Strong Heart Aug 12th 2007 at 12:25 pm EDT

Hillary Inc. A Flip-Flop Company...

Re: Sunday talk shows | Report to Admin

By TomG Aug 12th 2007 at 12:19 pm EDT

Perhaps Rupert Murdoch can save the day and purchase the Internet. Then, corporate America and the media pundits can get together, determine who our next leader will be, do away with the primaries, and save the American public the "hassle" of these hard choices and having to think. Then we can get back to more pressing matters, like "What's Paris Hilton up to?", or "Who's going to win the next American Idol?".

Pardon my sarcasm...

Re: Sunday talk shows | Report to Admin

By Arizona Grandma who needs affordable health insurance Aug 12th 2007 at 12:54 pm EDT

Net neutrality is an issue that should concern all of us! This type of campaign will not be feasible should the mighty corporations have their way. And, I'm not so sure about Hillary's devotion to net neutrality. I've published this before but I think it bears repeating. Her lobbyist contributors (so-called every day people) consist of many who are fighting quite hard to abolish net neutrality.

A quote from Vinton G. Cerf (one of the founders of the internet) testifying before Congress in early 2006: "The vibrant ecosystem of innovation that lies at the heart of the internet creates wealth and opportunities for millions of Americans. That ecosystem - based upon a neutral open network-should be nourished and promoted."

Personally, my business would suffer if net neutrality disappears. The net provides an opportunity for small businesses like mine to compete (on an equal playing field) with big business. Big business isn't happy with that scenario!

MoveOn.org and RightMarch.com, UTube and MySpace, Barack Obamas grass roots campaign and small businesses around the country have all benefitted from net neutrality. Hillary's money is coming from lobbyists fighting our freedoms.

Re: Sunday talk shows | Report to Admin

By TomG Aug 12th 2007 at 1:51 pm EDT

Agree with you 100% The Internet, as it is, is the only true open forum for opinion (and business), available to the people...A true democratic forum; and I'm sure there are powerful interests none-too-happy with that.

BaROCK the world | Report to Admin

By ShaniKeys Aug 12th 2007 at 12:17 pm EDT

When Barack speaks, the world listens: Link

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By Strong Heart Aug 12th 2007 at 12:37 pm EDT

Common sense, the cure for dumb!!!

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By Carol-STL-MO Aug 14th 2007 at 1:58 am EDT

Amen !!!

Profile of Obama - Washington Post | Report to Admin

By Athena Aug 12th 2007 at 12:28 pm EDT

Here is a profile of Obama in today's Washington Post Sunday magazine. Very positive. It actually quotes Donna Brazile saying some nice things about him.

Hopefully, the inside-the-beltway crowd will sit up and take notice.

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Re: Profile of Obama - Washington Post | Report to Admin

By GM_from_Ohio Aug 12th 2007 at 2:12 pm EDT

It's one of the best. I will circulate to as many people as possible.

pamelamercer00@hotmail.com | Report to Admin

By Athena Aug 12th 2007 at 12:56 pm EDT

"Hillary vs. Barack = Microsoft vs. Apple"

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Last line of column:
"Then again, maybe the analogy falls apart, and this time Apple wins."

What about the iPod and the iPhone? And what about the fact that Bill Gates plans to retire? If only Hillary would follow in his footsteps :)

Re: pamelamercer00@hotmail.com | Report to Admin

By ShaniKeys Aug 12th 2007 at 2:58 pm EDT

Bill Gates endorsed Obama

Re: pamelamercer00@hotmail.com | Report to Admin

By Athena Aug 12th 2007 at 3:20 pm EDT

Yes!!!

Do you have a link to any article that says that? I would like to send it to the author of the article I just referred to.

Re: pamelamercer00@hotmail.com | Report to Admin

By Sharon Aug 12th 2007 at 3:25 pm EDT

Excellent !!!

Obama Weekly Roundup | Report to Admin

By Darlene from Mundelein, IL Aug 12th 2007 at 1:03 pm EDT

Link

Recommend it.

On Obama | Report to Admin

By Petra from Tucson Aug 12th 2007 at 1:24 pm EDT

Read this article in the Washington Post today:
Link
Obama 08!

Clinton a "drag" on Democrats | Report to Admin

By Athena Aug 12th 2007 at 1:57 pm EDT

As MSM outlets go, the A. P. has been quite balanced. Here is a long overdue article about Hillary's negative effect on other democrats' chances. It does not mention, though, that Obama does better than Hillary in general election match-ups.

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Clinton a "drag" on Democrats | Report to Admin

By Athena Aug 12th 2007 at 1:58 pm EDT

As MSM outlets go, the A. P. has been quite balanced. Here is a long overdue article about Hillary's negative effect on other democrats' chances. It does not mention, though, that Obama does better than Hillary in general election match-ups.

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Other Early States | Report to Admin

By Luevonia "Hussein" Williams Aug 12th 2007 at 2:05 pm EDT

Although I think that it is important for Barack Obama to campaign in all of the early states, I have doubts that he will win the Nevada Primary. So, I think that when you are campaigning, you will sooner or later have to start being more practical and realistic. And, that said, I think that Barack should probably pay more attention to the early states that he has a realistic chance of winning (New Hampshire, South Carolina, and Florida), because those three states have either a high independent (New Hampshire), black (South Carolina), or diverse (Florida) population. And, that's where a lot of Barack's strength lies. He doesn't seem to appeal as much to older, more solidly Democratic white Americans that are the majority in the states of Iowa and Nevada. As far as Florida, they have a lot of independents, blacks, younger white people, and younger people in general. And, those represent the kind of support that he has been getting. Again, he still does have a chance to win Iowa and Nevada, and he should not give up on them, but I just think that he should spend more time in the other 3 states.

It is the same thing with the General Election. For example, the Democratic and Republican nominees in the General Election season has to stop concentrating as much in states that have been traditionally solidly Democratic or Republican, and in stead have to start concentrating more on the swing states that decide elections. I just feel that Barack should use the same strategy as far as the Democratic Caucuses and Primaries, that's all!

Re: Other Early States | Report to Admin

By Mason City 4 Obama Aug 12th 2007 at 2:36 pm EDT

I respectfully disagree, at least in Iowa, about the Senator's chances here. I honestly think he is being under polled in the recently released polls. He is drawing much more people to his events than the others (although this time the crowds for all the candidates are quite large -- Richardson pulled in 100-150 a couple weeks ago in my city). We have to remember, the Senator is from next-door Illinois. We have much more in common with him than the others. It would be a huge mistake to bypass or diminish Iowa. The key is going to be turnout. The Iowa Caucus is a weird thing. We've got to get the supports out on caucus night and we need to educate those who've not been a part what caucus entails and how important it is to go out. I honestly think Obama has a tremendous opportunity here. Coupled with New Hampshire (where, as you stated, independents can vote), Obama can go two-for-two and Hillary could be severely hurt...possibly not able to recover. Good luck Obama.

Re: Other Early States | Report to Admin

By Luevonia "Hussein" Williams Aug 12th 2007 at 3:04 pm EDT

Mason City,

I didn't say that Barack would do bad in Iowa, I think that he has a realistic chance of coming in a close second (behind John Edwards), in Iowa. I just said that I don't see him winning it. I may be wrong, and I hope that I am. But, John Edwards has put a lot of years into Iowa, and is still very much loved there. But, that said, I don't see Edwards winning any of the other early primary states. So, after Iowa, it will probably be pretty much a two-person race between Barack and Hillary, with Hillary winning Nevada, Barack winning New Hampshire and the two of the battling it out in South Carolina and Florida. Again, I could be wrong, and I think that it is great that you have hope for him in your state, but I don't know!!! We'll see how he does!

Re: Other Early States | Report to Admin

By Mason City 4 Obama Aug 12th 2007 at 4:19 pm EDT

Edwards has spent a lot of time here, but there's something different this time. I was a huge Edwards supporter in '04, but not at all this time. People out here really were turned off by the $400 haircuts. Pretty hard to preach two Americas when you're clearly in the "other" America than we are. From what I've heard, there are many other former-Edwards supporters as well. Now, it's just convincing them to choose Obama rather than Clinton. Go Obama!

Re: Other Early States | Report to Admin

By Luevonia "Hussein" Williams Aug 12th 2007 at 8:35 pm EDT

Mason City,

I still have my doubts about Barack winning Iowa, but I hope that you are right about his chances of winning!

Re: Other Early States | Report to Admin

By Jon Aug 12th 2007 at 6:43 pm EDT

Living in Nevada, I think there remains an opportunity for Obama to take this state. The polls have been showing very poor responses for Obama, but his cross-over support is extensive. We had a ridiculous showing of 900+ supporters in Elko up north, which is atypical in rural Nevada. Nevada is normally a Republican state, and many Republicans are coming out to support Obama.

There's still a lot of work to do here in Las Vegas, especially in regards to the union vote. If we get the Culinary Union, we could easily win this state. Also, our grassroots efforts started much, much earlier than the Clintons'. Don't count us out quite yet.

Re: Other Early States | Report to Admin

By Luevonia "Hussein" Williams Aug 12th 2007 at 8:32 pm EDT

John,

I still have my doubts about Barack winning Nevada, but I hope that you are right that we can win it!

Re: Other Early States | Report to Admin

By Randy from Escondido, CA Aug 12th 2007 at 4:23 pm EDT

Nah he will win Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina in my opinion.

Re: Other Early States | Report to Admin

By Luevonia "Hussein" Williams Aug 12th 2007 at 8:37 pm EDT

New Hampshire (yes).

South Carolina (maybe).

Iowa (doubtful, but hopefully).

Florida (maybe, also).

Nevada (doubtful, but hopefully, also).

Re: Other Early States | Report to Admin

By Carol-STL-MO Aug 14th 2007 at 2:06 am EDT

Since I just graduated from ("smart school") -Camp Obama ( I'll be willing to bet Obama will take them all ) !!!!

Yes, I'm confident & a true Obama supporter--- all the way to the White House

Re: Other Early States | Report to Admin

By Athena Aug 12th 2007 at 2:41 pm EDT

What I don't understand is why Hillary is so far ahead in Michigan.

Re: Other Early States | Report to Admin

By JimmieFromDayton Aug 12th 2007 at 4:11 pm EDT

I don't think that his campaign has focused very much effort there . Once we get there I believe we should see those polls change in Mich. And maybe even before then. These early primaries could help a lot in all the states but we have one hell of a battle on our hands. Weore strong though and growing stronger by the day. I know we will do it.

Obama 08!

(Coming soon to a town near you!)

Re: Other Early States | Report to Admin

By Rick Beaule' Aug 12th 2007 at 11:34 pm EDT

Actually I think he will do quite well in most if not all of those states. My predictions:

Iowa - 1st or close 2nd to Edwards
NH - 1st
SC - 1st
NV - 2nd to Richardson
FL - 2nd to Clinton or Edwards

I keep saying that if these early states go Barack's way, the whole apple cart is overturned and Hillary will be sunk.

Mustard seeds for everyone!!! (C'mon, whose first?)

Lost in translation | Report to Admin

By ShaniKeys Aug 12th 2007 at 2:59 pm EDT

They're twisting his words again: Link

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By VTscrapper Aug 12th 2007 at 3:20 pm EDT

Well I would like to know what he actually said. Because I think the paper has a valid point. I don't think the concerns of the "undocumented immigrants" are more important than the concerns of the citizens of our country. I'm not in favor of just chucking them all out, but I don't think that taking up their cause as his own is going to help Barack get votes. This concerns me.

Re: Lost in translation | Report to Admin

By JimmieFromDayton Aug 12th 2007 at 4:28 pm EDT

I believe Senator Obama really has his finger on the pulse of a lot of problems that ails us as a nation. It really doesn't matter which side of the immigration issue you're on, the bottom line is that those 12 million or 20 million undocumented immigrants , depend on which estimate you look at, aren't going to be sent back to Mexico.

They are, weather we like it are not, here to stay. Let's be frank about it. Having said that, the only way to resolve this issue is to deal with it in a common sense way. He has to deal with this issue comprehensively until it is resolved.

What I like about his stance is that he knows we must secure our boarders first and far most. Seems to me that the Senators straight talk is simply common sense.

He's just one of the few candidates with the courage to tell us what we might not want to hear. Both sides. He doesn't duck the tough issues. That why were are going to win.

Re: Lost in translation | Report to Admin

By Rick Beaule' Aug 12th 2007 at 7:10 pm EDT

It's not the paper, VT, it's the columnist who is writing for the paper. And I would submit to anyone that undocumented immigrants ARE a concern for the citizens of our country. They are a source of crime, for those that they commit themselves, or the unscrupulous people who use them for their own nefarious purposes. They are a strain on our resources, for they use taxpayer dollars that would otherwise go to help American citizens.

But they also provide for us the "service" of gladly performing jobs that Americans scoff at as being too menial. Their children can be some of the hardest working academic scholars around. Whether they deserve to be deported or welcomed with open arms is yet to be seen, but they do at least deserve to be taken from the shadow world in which they are currently living. And the concern was worth a major dust-up in Congress and a rare bipartisan push from the President.

I think that this is only one issue of many that Mr. Obama has taken on for us. You'll see....

Rick

Mustard seeds for everyone!!!

Re: Lost in translation | Report to Admin

By VTscrapper Aug 12th 2007 at 8:38 pm EDT

Thank you for the comments. Is there a link to text of what Barack actually said in this speech? He probably did have some comments that were good common sense, as usual. However the subject of illegal immigrants is a complicated one. I've got mixed feelings and haven't really figured out yet what I'd be comfortable with as a solution. Obviously they can't all be deported; however they did come here illegally (or overstay their visas) and not follow the rules, and there are many people who are playing by the rules who have been waiting a long time for permission to come here. I can see that this creates an unfair situation for those who play by the rules. And also I think it's a problem having people in the country who are undocumented; yes some of them are part of the crime problem. Some are very decent hard working people. No one solution is going to work for everyone. I'm just curious where Barack stands on this issue and haven't heard much about it yet.

Re: Lost in translation | Report to Admin

By JimmieFromDayton Aug 12th 2007 at 9:52 pm EDT

He believes that before we start promising citizenship we must secure the boarder, then have a pathway to citizenship in 10 or so years but not before those who are waiting to become citizen the legal way. In the mean time he want them to be able to work legally so that employers cant take advantage of them by offering wages lower than the minimum wage. He also feels that there should be a fine paid to help offset the cost of the admin requirements to get the policy setup. It's not perfect for either side but we've got to start somewhere. Might as well be with the truth and common sense.

Change | Report to Admin

By Strong Heart Aug 12th 2007 at 3:13 pm EDT

Hope reads all the signs, faith keeps it's eyes on the road...

Excellent article on MSNBC.com today | Report to Admin

By Sharon Aug 12th 2007 at 3:34 pm EDT

Check this out! A really good article on MSNBC about the likely polarizing impact of a Clinton democratic nominee.

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Support | Report to Admin

By Strong Heart Aug 12th 2007 at 3:46 pm EDT

Friends!!!

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By Strong Heart Aug 12th 2007 at 3:52 pm EDT

Talk about Obama!!!

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By Strong Heart Aug 12th 2007 at 3:54 pm EDT

Talk about Obama!!! Right Link Sorry

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By Strong Heart Aug 12th 2007 at 4:02 pm EDT

Draft Obama

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By Strong Heart Aug 12th 2007 at 4:07 pm EDT

It's Sunday, was just boxing up some Links before I put them in the basement...

TRAFFIC ON OBAMA BLOGS | Report to Admin

By Athena Aug 12th 2007 at 4:04 pm EDT

The traffic on this website is great.

--As of Aug. 12, 3:54 PM EDT, I counted 191 comments on this blog alone (excluding this one), and it has only been up about 24 hours.

--Same date and time: 117 comments on the "Watch Barack on the Issues" blog.

I wrote to two New York Times reporters yesterday telling them how dynamic these blogs are and suggested that they do a story. I did disclose my bias, but I argued that this kind of traffic is unprecedented for an official HQ presidential candidate website. Clinton's, Edwards's and Biden's sites do not remotely compare. I know that Obama is said to have "Rock Star status" but I still find it interesting. We are, I told them, a very passionate lot, and we have even had our share of trolls!

There are longstanding newsgroups on Google that do not have this much participation. As I said in my e-mail to the Times, I feel sorry for Sam Graham-Felsen if he is the one who has to do all this reading.

I also told them I have no reason to believe that the campaign censors what we write. Obama has been called a liar and worse here.

I am not holding out hopes that they will respond or write a story, but you never know....

Re: TRAFFIC ON OBAMA BLOGS | Report to Admin

By Strong Heart Aug 12th 2007 at 4:20 pm EDT

Was just going through old stuff, reminiscing back when 10 posts was good, when I would try to post every blog so at least 1comment would show. I think it might be time to go on to other things, do not want to over stay my welcome...

Re: TRAFFIC ON OBAMA BLOGS | Report to Admin

By Strong Heart Aug 12th 2007 at 4:27 pm EDT

My heart can be locked for love but not chained for hate. It can beat for me but break for others. It can be injured by lies but is strong for truth. It can slow for sleep but speeds for change. It labors today but lives for tomorrow. My heart I do not own, but lease from God!!!

Re: TRAFFIC ON OBAMA BLOGS | Report to Admin

By Unknown user Aug 12th 2007 at 8:57 pm EDT

Strong Heart please stay on this blog, I really love reading your comments.

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By Carol-STL-MO Aug 14th 2007 at 2:14 am EDT

Strong Heart,

You inspire us, provoke thought & bring smiles

Re: TRAFFIC ON OBAMA BLOGS | Report to Admin

By Athena Aug 12th 2007 at 4:30 pm EDT

Strong Heart, stay! You contribute a lot. I think that the traffic is wonderful - that was what I was trying to convey to the Times. I, for one, have learned a lot here.

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By JimmieFromDayton Aug 12th 2007 at 4:47 pm EDT

Nothing but love for you. You inspire us as well.

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By Terri Aug 12th 2007 at 5:47 pm EDT

Don't you dare leave! You were my first favorite person here..now I have a whole blog full of favorites...but you're still my first! We have a loooooong road ahead and we need every one of us, especially the strong hearts!

Re: TRAFFIC ON OBAMA BLOGS | Report to Admin

By Kim Aug 12th 2007 at 6:00 pm EDT

Strong Heart = Barack Obama. When I first started to participate in this forum, I often thought that Strong Heart was a cover for Barack...he's really held this whole group together. Thank You and Keep Doing What You Do!!

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By Cilla...Currently living in Spain and lovin' it Aug 12th 2007 at 7:36 pm EDT

Seems strong heart and I are fellin' the same. I have been a strong supporter of Barack Obama. I have put a lot of work and time into helping this campaign in the NYC area,which is a strong hold for two other candidates. Today I think was the last straw for me. I come here to read and post. I am supposed to go to Camp Obama next week,but with what has happened today I can surely say this blog is not the place it once was.I have been attacked in the most nastiest way. People should realize that some people that come here my just be an important facet in this campaign in trying to get Obama more support in cities that are not in his favor. I think it is time for NYC to look at it's options because if this is what the Obama campaign is about ,then I don't think I want to advocate in what has happened lately on this blog. Being called a "fascist" and insane is a bit much. I have been an organizer here in the NYC area and have had a great experience so far, I know that the supporters in NYC will read what happened today and then I will be asked,why should we support a candidate who has such nasinest on his blog. I will let all of them decide if they want to hang around here and support this candidate,I will support looking at other options in light of what has happened today. We may have overstayed our welcome. NYC is a city with lots of diversity,I represent two of those groups,but now I feel it is time to look else where,we do not need personal attacks when I for one have given more than just blogging and money to this campaign. I will discuss this at the camp.metting next week with other organizers. it has become quite obvious that not everyone will always be welcomed here.

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By Strong Heart Aug 12th 2007 at 8:00 pm EDT

Cilla, you there?

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By Joyce~aka~ Iowa Farm Girl Aug 12th 2007 at 8:14 pm EDT

Cilla and Strong Heart,
This my first post but I have been reading the entire blog everyday. I look forward to seeing your posts as they are very inspiring to me. I really look forward to the blog everyday, it won't be the same without both of you. Please stay.

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By Strong Heart Aug 12th 2007 at 8:31 pm EDT

I don't know what made me think I could leave, Thanks for your support, I must find my old friend Cilla. She has been a corner stone on these blogs!!!

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By Strong Heart Aug 12th 2007 at 8:34 pm EDT

If anyone knows Cilla tell her Strong Heart would like to talk to her, she'll know where to find me, Thanks!!!

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By Joyce~aka~ Iowa Farm Girl Aug 12th 2007 at 9:24 pm EDT

Thank you Strong Heart for not leaving. I want to hear what you and Cilla will say when Obama WINS Iowa, I know he will. We here in Iowa can see through HRC and don't like what we see.

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By Strong Heart Aug 12th 2007 at 9:37 pm EDT

Thank You Farm Girl, thanks for the flowers I needed a wink from God!!!

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By Luevonia "Hussein" Williams Aug 12th 2007 at 8:44 pm EDT

Cilla,

Who on this blog has attacked you and why? I have not been keeping up much with what has been written here.

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By Lud Abigail from Brooklyn, NY Aug 12th 2007 at 8:48 pm EDT

Hello Cilla,

Please, Continue to be a strong Obama supporter. We truly need people like you. Even in the best family, strange things happen. Let's put whatever happen behind. This is not the time to give up as we enter the most difficult stage of this campaign. This is the time where we need to be strong as we are being attcked lately on all fronts. Come back, and share your thought with us.

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By Strong Heart Aug 12th 2007 at 9:06 pm EDT

Cilla, will always have a chair in this room and their is no place in this room for anyone who does not have total respect for our elders. I say this and I speak for Barack, and I evoke the spirit of God and this I say in the name of Jesus Christ!!!

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By Kim Aug 12th 2007 at 9:14 pm EDT

I was just thinking that we needed a strong statement from Strong Heart, and here it is!

Cilla, we'll see you soon!

Respectfully,

Kim
Mpls, mN

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By Sharon Aug 12th 2007 at 9:24 pm EDT

Cilla:
I have been reading this blog for a fairly short while now (maybe a couple of months) and I think that it is really valuable to have your opinion voiced here. I expressed some concern about a week ago that some of the posts had taken on some hostile tones and that I did not think that this would make new visitors feel welcomed here. I have watched daily since, and it really seems that the tone is so much more respectful. I recognize that the group has probably grown way beyond the original posters, but I would like to propose that there is room at the table for everyone. The more we post in respectful, thoughtful ways, the more we will drown out anyone who is disrespectful. I am sorry if your feelings were hurt in any way, but the campaign needs your strength and that of everyone who is willing to give. The larger group is less intimate, but it does mean that the support is growing. It means that your efforts are paying off. I hope that you will continue here. It's hard to ignore the negative, but Senator Obama would appreciate all that you do. You too Strong Heart.

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By Donna NH - Thank you my fellow Granite Staters! Yes we did! Aug 12th 2007 at 9:29 pm EDT

Cilla. I'm really sorry you feel this way. I'm sorry those comments were made to you. Unfortunately, some don't think before they write or say and how things will come across. We need you here. Please stay strong, like Barack. He is why we are hear. He should be our #1 focus. It's true. We all have differences of opinion and need to respect that. Yes, some of us may not want to hear any criticism about our main man, but criticism is how we can make things better sometimes. I believe Barack is strong for us, so we need to be strong for him. Peace.

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By J. Lowe Aug 12th 2007 at 9:31 pm EDT

puh-lease Cilla. We all know that you are one of the best at dishing out primo Grade A snark. It is one of your best talents. Problem is, what you put out in the universe comes back around to you. Its a natural law of the universe.

The open blog is one of Obama's most valuable assets in this campaign. It has been critical providing instant conversation around the world. If you are going to use valuable Camp Obama time to lobby an agenda to limit this avenue of free speech, reconsider.

And if you are going to quit the campaign because of what one lady said to you, puh-lease again. And if what I said makes you mad, hey it probably isnt the first time. I raise my coffee in love to you regardless of what you choose.

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By JimmieFromDayton Aug 12th 2007 at 10:06 pm EDT

Seems we're losing focus here. We need to get back to supporting this movement. We need to be able to agree to disagree. If anyone allows someone to run them away from something they believe in then that's just wrong. I know I'm new here and I'm probably a lot more conservative than most. What I like most about Senator Obama is the fact that he's not like the other candidate neither are his supporters. Senator Obama however is not perfect neither is his supporters. Guess what, we don't have to be. All we have to do is remember that the cause is greater than the messenger or the choir. Push forward Senator, we are beside you

Obama 08!

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By Randy from Escondido, CA Aug 13th 2007 at 1:27 am EDT

I like this post. I hope more conservatives come here to support Barack. Unity is what this campaign is all about.

Cheers

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By Terri Aug 12th 2007 at 11:14 pm EDT

Cilla,
When I wrote my note to StrongHeart, I almost mentioned you were the second. I wish I had..because it's true. I've obvioiusly missed some of the nastiness you're talking about, but I've seen some others...that Wayne person comes to mind.

I think it's pretty inevitable that you're going to get some trolling or even just basic misunderstanding when posting to open blogs like this. Please don't let it turn you off to the whole because of a few. You didn't need to tell me you did more than blog..it was apparent right away from your passion.

This whole campaign is going to be long..and from the start it was shaping up to get nasty. All the more reason to have passionate supporters to fight back.

Wish I hadn't moved away from Brooklyn 4 yrs ago..I'd have been proud to fight by your side.. and I still am..from where I am.

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By Kim Aug 12th 2007 at 6:39 pm EDT

Democrats Worry Clinton Could Hurt Party

Link

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By monica Aug 12th 2007 at 7:32 pm EDT

They have reason to be concerned. A recent poll conducted by Gallup shows Obama is overwhelmingly perceived more favorably among republicans and independents

High
School
or Less SomeCollege College Grad Post-grad

Barack Obama 34 35 45 51
Hillary Clinton 19 13 11 08

Gallup reports that:
But Obama's appeal is stronger among those with higher levels of education who are independents and Republicans than is the case for the other Democrats surveyed. This is particularly true among Republicans with postgraduate educations, among whom Obama enjoys a slightly more positive than negative image -- unusual for a Democratic presidential candidate.

Link

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By monica Aug 12th 2007 at 7:33 pm EDT

The table shown is % republican only. go to the link to see others including Independents.

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By Ashe Aug 12th 2007 at 7:55 pm EDT

My strong belief is that having HRC at the top of the Dem ticket will ensure that Dem candidates from politically conservative districts will lose. The only thing HRC will do is rally the Republicans. If Dems want to win the WH and retain Congress...vote Obama!

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By Ashe Aug 12th 2007 at 8:51 pm EDT

My strong belief is that having HRC at the top of the Dem ticket will ensure that Dem candidates from politically conservative districts will lose. The only thing HRC will do is rally the Republicans. If Dems want to win the WH and retain Congress...vote Obama!

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By Luevonia "Hussein" Williams Aug 12th 2007 at 9:44 pm EDT

I just read the story and the comments that followed. And, it is funny how the Hillary Clinton supporters on there are complaining about the article and saying that the Obama campaign is more than likely responsible for the story.

I say that it is about time that CNN told the truth about Hillary's high unfavorable ratings. That is something that she has had for a long time; long before this campaign even began. She has to address her own problems with not being perceived favorably by most Americans. CNN is just FINALLY doing it's job in reporting the story!

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By Danielo Aug 13th 2007 at 10:58 am EDT

Will Hillary be to Democratic contenders what Bush has been to Repubs? Why nominate her if her name will draw negative passions and may not rope in votes fromm accross the political divide. Some dont want to oppose HRC for the fear of repurcations should she win. Thats the politics of the past and is what Obama is vowing to change.

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By Strong Heart Aug 12th 2007 at 8:43 pm EDT

Anyone has a problem with the way Barack talks and not about what he says first shut your ears and then shut your mouth. For I will smash your glass house into dust!!!

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By Strong Heart Aug 12th 2007 at 8:45 pm EDT

Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? Jesus

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By Strong Heart Aug 12th 2007 at 8:47 pm EDT

The measure you use I will use against you, and I said that!!!

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By Strong Heart Aug 12th 2007 at 8:51 pm EDT

When you enter a persons house you respect that house and that person that is an American Tenet!!!

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By Strong Heart Aug 12th 2007 at 9:09 pm EDT

Now is their anyone who has a problem with anything I said!!!

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By Donna NH - Thank you my fellow Granite Staters! Yes we did! Aug 12th 2007 at 9:20 pm EDT

Thank you, Strong Heart, thank you for being here. We need you. We must be strong like Barack. We must not give up.

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By Kim Aug 12th 2007 at 9:23 pm EDT

I sure hope not! :)

BTW, Mpls., once again is getting a group of volunteers to head down to Iowa (Mason City) this upcoming weekend for canvassing, etc. I've made a commitment, barring emergencies, to be active every weekend thru mid-Feb.

O8AMA!!

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By Garth100 Aug 13th 2007 at 3:22 am EDT

I am excited about Barack and have watched most of his speeches. I have posted twice before over the past few days but prior to this has been reading the blog daily. Based on my observation I think Blaze, Dawn and Strong Heart intentions and motivation are pure towards Barack. We are family here -that is Barack's central theme- to see yourself in the other person. Now with that said, could you all just forget about yourselves and keep your eyes on the prize.
If not, I suspect that you may turn off others ( including myself) from reading this blog. I assure you many, many more read than those who post regularly.

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By Foreigner Aug 13th 2007 at 4:13 am EDT

I agree.

As you pointed out, "See yourself in the other person etc", that's absolutely important...

.. especially if the United States of America is to become a good member of the global family of nations...

.. especially if after Barack wins the election, healing is to take place all over the world...

.. especially if after 8 years of Barack Obama as US President, things are to keep improving and not sliding back to the old way of doing politics, both national and international ...

God bless us all ...from your well-wisher in Sydney, Australia :-)

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By Strong Heart Aug 13th 2007 at 10:39 am EDT

Om Sai Ram!!!

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By Strong Heart Aug 13th 2007 at 10:40 am EDT

Remember God!!!

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By Foreigner Aug 13th 2007 at 6:11 pm EDT

Strong Heart, what a wonderful surprise that is! You made my day, haha :-)

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By Rick Beaule' Aug 12th 2007 at 11:37 pm EDT

That is one of my favorites!

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