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Overnight Thread
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- Mar 15th, 2008 at 2:20 am EDT
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Joe Rospars
Mar 15th 2008 at 2:24 am EDT
really?
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V-Day
Mar 15th 2008 at 2:41 am EDT
Second! We can do this! Bless your heart everyone! Stay positive and say your prayers!
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Barbara"Hussein-fistbump" BaRock-O-Biden
Mar 15th 2008 at 2:48 am EDT
Psalms 37:23
The steps of a good man are ordered by the Lord,and he delighted in his way
Barack Obama is a good man in my book, The best Candidate for the Presidency.
I will vote for ONLY Barack,no one else will do.
love
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V-Day
Mar 15th 2008 at 2:56 am EDT
Indeed! PS ...My Dad and Mom both love you and they r angels!
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Tena
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:30 am EDT
Barack, No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgement thou shalt condemn. Isaiah 54:17
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Nicholas from Cocoa Beach, FL
Mar 15th 2008 at 4:28 am EDT
Help close the superdelegate Gap!
HRC still leads by about 40 superdelegates.
With these superdels (all representing states Obama won by big margins), we'd cut that lead in half!
Hawaii (76% for Obama)
Mazie Hirono (Representative)
Link
5104 Prince Kuhio Federal Bldg
300 Ala Moana Blvd
Honolulu, HI 96850
Phone: (808) 541-1986
Daniel Akaka (Senator)
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Prince Kuhio Federal Building
300 Ala Moana Blvd., Rm. 3-106
Box 50144
Honolulu, HI 96850
(808) 522-8970
Daniel Inouye (Senator – Currently Endorsing Hillary)
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300 Ala Moana Boulevard
Room 7-212
Honolulu, Hawaii 96850-4975
808-541-2542
Kansas (74% for Obama)
Nancy Boyda (Representative)
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510 SW 10th Avenue
Topeka, KS 66612
(785) 234-8111
Dennis Moore (Representative)
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500 State Ave. #176
Kansas City, KS 66101
(913) 621-0832
Washington (68% for Obama)
Rick Larsen (Representative)
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104 W. Magnolia, Room 206
Bellingham, WA 98225
(360) 733-4500
Jim McDermott(Representative)
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1809 7th Avenue
Suite 1212
Seattle, WA 98101-1399
(206) 553-7170
Colorado (67% for Obama)
Mark Udall (Representative)
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8601 Turnpike Drive #206
Westminster, CO 80031
(303) 650-7820
John Salazar (Representative)
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225 North 5th Street, STE 702
Grand Junction, CO 81501
970-245-7107
Bill Ritter (Governor)
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136 State Capitol
Denver, CO 80203-1792
(303) 866-2471
Ken Salazar (Senator)
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2300 15th Street, Suite 450
Denver, CO 80202
(303) 455-7600
Georgia (66% for Obama)
Jim Marshall (Representative)
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682 Cherry Street, Suite 300
Macon, GA 31201
478/464-0255
Minnesota(66% for Obama)
Collin Peterson (Representative)
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714 Lake Avenue, Suite 107
Detroit Lakes, MN 56501
(218) 847-5056
Amy Klobuchar (Senator)
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1200 Washington Avenue South, Suite 250
Minneapolis, MN 55415
612-727-5220
Illinois (65% for Obama)
Dan Lipinski (Representative)
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5309 West 95th Street
Oak Lawn, IL 60453
(708) 424-0853
Rahm Emanuel (Representative)
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3742 West Irving Park Road
Chicago, IL 60618
773-267-5926
Mississippi (61% for Obama)
Gene Taylor (Representative)
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2 Depot Way
Bay St. Louis, MS 39520
228 469-9235
Wyoming (61% for Obama)
Dave Freudenthal (Governor)
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State Capitol, 200 West 24th Street
Cheyenne, WY 82002-0010
307.777.7434
South Carolina(55% for Obama in a 3man race)
John Spratt (Representative)
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201 E. Main Street, Suite 305
Rock Hill, SC 29730
803-327-1114
Jim Clyburn (Representative)
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1225 Lady Street, Suite 200
Columbia, SC 29201
(803)799-1100
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Mar 15th 2008 at 4:47 am EDT
Could I make a suggestion or two?
First: Only people in the superdelgates district or State should write.
Second: Be polite, and dont make threats.
Otherwise, I think this may be counter productive. By threats I mean saying things like "If HRC wins Im gonna.....blah..blah..blah." even if its true.
Instead say (for example) "if the superdelegates make HRC the Nominee even though she has the fewest pledged delegates, I dont know how we will keep the Party together, nor do I see how we can keep the District (State, etc) for you. Please don't cause us another 4 years of Republicans in the White House."
I ended my last superdelegate letter with "I think your conscience will compel you, but in case it doesn't, I will simply say: I will remember your actions in this matter -- whatever they are -- and for a long, long time.
Faithfully,
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Heidi in New Haven, CT
Mar 15th 2008 at 7:18 am EDT
When I contacted Senator Dodd I started the letter with a complement..."I appreciate the work you've done in supporting health and research...".
This post has been removed due to offensive or disrespectful content.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 11:30 am EDT
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Mar 15th 2008 at 12:09 pm EDT
Thanks; the last two are really good extracts that I missed. I had only seen Hannity behaving badly in interviewing Barack, and Kieth O on a different segment which was not as complete. (Hannity was so totally rude to Sharpton - who was also really the most visible in dealing with Ferraro: Thank you, Rev!)
I was particularly impressed with Obama's willingness to now bring the racism question out as a rational topic to address. I think it will go equally importantly for all of us. And for those of us teethed in the 60s and 70s we will be ready to move this on to a more longlasting healing track.
With you 100% percent - YES WE CAN!
c. hussein *o - konani
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Red from Minneapolis, MN
Mar 15th 2008 at 9:29 am EDT
Heidi,
Senator Dodd had already endorsed Barack Obama!
I wish other presidential hopefuls would have done the same.
Red
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Ian from Stevenson Ranch, CA
Mar 15th 2008 at 11:54 am EDT
RONALD REAGAN LOST PENNSYLVANIA IN THE PRMARIES BUT WON IN THE GENERAL ELECTION. IN 2000 AL GORE WON NEW HAMPSHIRE IN THE PRIMARIES, BUT LOST IT TO G.W. BUSH. BUT BUSH LOST N.H. MISERABLY IN HIS PRIMARY CONTEST.
Ted Kennedy beat Jimmy Carter in the 1980 Pennsylvania primary, but it was Carter who won the nomination.
Secondly, Pennsylvania has not played a leading role in choosing a nominee in a quarter-century. Since 1984 the primaries were already wrapped up by time we got to Pennsylvania.
Finally, for Obama, potential swing states like Virginia and Colorado (or others) would essentially undo the damage of a Pennsylvania defeat in the GE.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 12:38 pm EDT
Sorry for spam..
Can someone please make this viral. I am sicking of watching MSM with this on the tip of my tongue, yet NO-ONE addresses it.
I am sick of Hillary spin.
RONALD REAGAN LOST PENNSYLVANIA IN THE PRMARIES BUT WON IN THE GENERAL ELECTION.
IN 2000 AL GORE WON NEW HAMPSHIRE IN THE PRIMARIES, BUT LOST IT TO G.W. BUSH. THE KICKER IS THAT BUSH LOST N.H. MISERABLY IN HIS PRIMARY CONTEST.
Ted Kennedy beat Jimmy Carter in the 1980 Pennsylvania primary, but it was Carter who won the nomination.
Secondly, Pennsylvania has not played a leading role in choosing a nominee in a quarter-century. Since 1984 the primaries were already wrapped up by time the dems got to Pennsylvania.
Finally, for Obama, potential swing states like Virginia and Colorado (or others) would essentially undo the damage of a possible Pennsylvania defeat in the GE.
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Kathleen
Mar 15th 2008 at 11:31 am EDT
Excellent suggestions on the super-delegate area.
I am a communications professor and this is all important at this point. Firm, intelligent, not personal attacks.
Time to make phone calls if you like that.
Also keep abreast of both the Rev Wright and Resco both are "silly season" but will be used. Know the facts to help clear and defend. ie: read Baracks interview with the Chicago Tribune.
Very good to be preemptive.
Kathleen
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Ian from Stevenson Ranch, CA
Mar 15th 2008 at 12:47 pm EDT
Sorry for spam..
Can someone please make this viral. I am sicking of watching MSM with this on the tip of my tongue, yet NO-ONE addresses it.
I am sick of Hillary spin.
RONALD REAGAN LOST PENNSYLVANIA IN THE PRMARIES BUT WON IN THE GENERAL ELECTION.
IN 2000 AL GORE WON NEW HAMPSHIRE IN THE PRIMARIES, BUT LOST IT TO G.W. BUSH. THE KICKER IS THAT BUSH LOST N.H. MISERABLY IN HIS PRIMARY CONTEST.
Ted Kennedy beat Jimmy Carter in the 1980 Pennsylvania primary, but it was Carter who won the nomination.
Secondly, Pennsylvania has not played a leading role in choosing a nominee in a quarter-century. Since 1984 the primaries were already wrapped up by time the dems got to Pennsylvania.
Finally, for Obama, potential swing states like Virginia and Colorado (or others) would essentially undo the damage of a possible Pennsylvania defeat in the GE.
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John Farrell
Mar 15th 2008 at 9:29 am EDT
I have written the Governors and Senators, but the congressinal sites don't allow for people outside the district to contact them. Is there a common email address to use?
Thanks,
John Farrell
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Mslola Hussein
Mar 15th 2008 at 9:48 am EDT
Well said. We need not lower ourselves to using harsh words. Nor do we need to behave in a manner that would reflect badly on Senator Obama. With the same dignity and grace that Senator Obama conducts himself so do we. I think it's great to contact our local superdelegates and let them know from our hearts our truest feelings, but with the greatest respect that they deserve.
Thank you for posting your thoughts! Much needed in these times!
Let's keep the faith.
Yes! We can!
Yes! We must!
Yes! We will!
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Liba
Mar 15th 2008 at 10:05 am EDT
I agree. I am from New Mexico, and did contact Bill Richardson. I am not sure if we have any more superdelegates in the state. I did express my trust and opinion in his judgement, and wrote about my beliefs in Barack Obama.
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Excited about Change and Working Hard to Make it Happen
Mar 15th 2008 at 10:05 am EDT
William,
I like the way you ended your letter!
YES WE CAN
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Sabine from Santa Fe, NM
Mar 15th 2008 at 10:42 am EDT
As a fellow New Mexican, I appreciate your initiative. But I doubt that it will have any effect. Bill Richardson is waiting in the wings in order to see who will win the election. He does not want to spoil his chances of becoming the running mate of either Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton. His indecision is purely political, in my opinion.
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Jen Rencher from Jersey City
Mar 15th 2008 at 11:35 am EDT
I think Bill is waiting to endorse Obama. Check out this video from UCLA:
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Henni
Mar 15th 2008 at 11:37 am EDT
I totally agree with you, they are looking forward to getting a new job. But look at it from a positive side Bill Richardson has never received many, many nice letters to remind him “whatever he decides we will remember it for a long, long time. (Great ending line Frstan). He looks for a promotion, but we are the voters. If enough people write those letters it will help. We are a movement, let’s use the movement. And whatever happens in November this movement needs to stick together. We have a lot of work to do in the next 4 years to get the right people elected at our local level so we will have better Super Delegates the next time around. Obama –Edwards was my “dream ticket” but not anymore. What is that good men waiting for? So, let us all check out our local Super Delegate and start writing letters. I agree that those letters need to come from people inside that Super Delegate’s district. But imagine if you got let’s say 100 letters from your own district voters. That makes you think twice about the position you are taking.
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lady di
Mar 15th 2008 at 12:12 pm EDT
I loved the video of Richardson. I don't have television so haven't heard him speak in front of a camera very often. He is very funny, honest and blunt. I can see why he and Obama would get along. This might be a good running mate, when we finally get there. I am not a political expert but could the chemistry be there for these two? Definitely!
I also just got the full picture on Barack's ministers comments. This is a very unfortunate event and may have some set backs for Obama's campaign. I completely understand Wright's comments. I am a unitarian and have heard similar commentary at my church (omitting the heavily Christian statement of course). I have also read Barabara Kingsolvers book Poisonwood Bible and am aware of the history of politics in Africa. Opinions about how the aids epidemic in Africa was handled often does examine the behavior of the US in a negative light and has a basis of truth behind it. I don't think it is unpatriotic to criticize the United States and highlight the mistakes we have made. How else is awareness raised and change to occur? I understand Wrights commentary and don't see it as threating to America. At the same time I am afraid most of America won't. I hope this won't hurt too much.
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EAB4Obama
Mar 15th 2008 at 10:27 am EDT
Good points.
Just like Senator Obama we need to be positive at all time.
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John from Vermont
Mar 15th 2008 at 10:54 am EDT
I agree that in contacting representatives, they should foremost come from the state, but when you do contact from the other state, you should make it clear that you give money to many candidates across the country in order for the Democrats to keep their majorities... you think it would be easier to to give to candidates in whatever state the person represents if there were a concerted effort by the leadership of the Democratic Party to support Obama. Obama will continue to bring people like your self to the financing and supporting of candidates all over this country.
Because as you know, a majority Democratic Party with a President Obama will be a powerful force in washington...
No need for threats... there is a huge positive action that we can show we have done already in terms of 2006 and what we will do if they help us in 2008 by supporting a grassroots movement to move the party into a stronger position. Even though we don't come from 50 states, we are part of the United States and we are in this together. So when Kansas elects a democratic Senator it helps me in Vermont because my Senator continues to be chairman of the Judiciary. And he is very good at it and he is an Obama Supporter.
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staggard man
Mar 15th 2008 at 11:06 am EDT
I thought you said "do not make any threats"! Your conclusion doesn't sound like it.
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Lucy Hussein who is bitter because her posts keep getting lost on this blog
Mar 15th 2008 at 11:45 am EDT
Here is my letter to Rep. Jim Marshall of GA.
March 10, 2008
To The Honorable Jim Marshall
Dear Sir,
It is an honorf or me to write you to tell you that I think you are doing a wonderful job as our representative here in the 8th district. I have cast my vote for you each time you have run for office, and I have encouraged relatives and friends to vote for you also.
There are a couple of concerns I have for which I beg your consideration. Both are of utmost importance to me personally, and to the nation as a whole. I realize that you are a superdelegate for The Democratic National Convention. I realize also that you have not yet pledged your superdelegate vote neither for Senator Barack Obama, nor for Senator Hillary Clinton. I am asking you, since Senator Barack Obama did handily win the state of Georgia, that you pledge your vote in accordance with Georgia voters and align yourself with Senator Barack Obama. We will be vigorously campagning door to door and getting many new people registered to vote, many for the first time. It would be a very good time to remind people about your excellent work to date, and set the momentum for your re-election bid next time.We want your support for this grass roots effort.
Please donate to my fundraiseing page.
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Kathleen
Mar 15th 2008 at 12:22 pm EDT
Thanks for the list of super delegates. I will send a letter. What I just did (it's Saturday and no one is generally in these offices) I called and left messages in "states that bordered mine" (Wisconsin) & left a message as a concerned citizen and neighbor for the representative or senator to support Obama.
I actually got a live person in Illinois this morning and they were very supportive of my call.
Anyone that has lots of weekend minutes on your cell, this is a new twist to calling supporters.
The remainder of my day will be calling in Penn.!
Kathleen
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Ian from Stevenson Ranch, CA
Mar 15th 2008 at 12:48 pm EDT
Sorry for spam..
Can someone please make this viral. I am sicking of watching MSM with this on the tip of my tongue, yet NO-ONE addresses it.
I am sick of Hillary spin.
RONALD REAGAN LOST PENNSYLVANIA IN THE PRMARIES BUT WON IN THE GENERAL ELECTION.
IN 2000 AL GORE WON NEW HAMPSHIRE IN THE PRIMARIES, BUT LOST IT TO G.W. BUSH. THE KICKER IS THAT BUSH LOST N.H. MISERABLY IN HIS PRIMARY CONTEST.
Ted Kennedy beat Jimmy Carter in the 1980 Pennsylvania primary, but it was Carter who won the nomination.
Secondly, Pennsylvania has not played a leading role in choosing a nominee in a quarter-century. Since 1984 the primaries were already wrapped up by time the dems got to Pennsylvania.
Finally, for Obama, potential swing states like Virginia and Colorado (or others) would essentially undo the damage of a possible Pennsylvania defeat in the GE.
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MychinSeattle
Mar 15th 2008 at 1:45 pm EDT
Last check Senators Patty Murray and Maria Cantwell from WA both have currently endorsed Hillary Clinton. Washington state voters overwhelmingly supported Barack on Caucus day in Feburary.
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Gary in Obamaville formerly of Crivitz, WI
Mar 15th 2008 at 4:59 am EDT
I am not a prayerful person normally; however, for Barack's sake and mine, I find myself saying a prayer or two a day.
What a positive influence he has.
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Annette from SC
Mar 15th 2008 at 7:31 am EDT
Gary,
What an absolutely awesome testimony. The people who are desperately trying to destroy this movement just don't get it.
CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN is from the bottom up. Senator Obama is causing people to do things they either have never done or are doing more.
Those of us who can see the light will continue to embrace him as the candidate who is genuinely concerned about us - more so than himself.
BE ENCOURAGED EVERYONE!
This is just helping in the long run!
The race is not given to the swift nor the strong, but to him who endurees to the end!!!
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Mary R. Il.
Mar 15th 2008 at 7:47 am EDT
What Barack OBAMA has done is given US THE PEOPLE back our country..that at the end of the day we are the ones who are in charge and those in DC work, of us, for us and by us.
What's happened is that in the capitol they feel they can do anything they want, with out care or concern for their constietutents.
This bottom up movement has citizens connecting and reaching out to each other, all over this country.
We are moving out of our comfort zone and becoming involved, doing things a year ago I doubt most of us could ever envision. Because we know there is a better way for this country to go, and at the end of the day, civility, decency, and honesty are values we hold dear.
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scozad
Mar 15th 2008 at 8:10 am EDT
Mary R, you are SO RIGHT! WE THE PEOPLE are finally standing up against our corrupt government and telling them ENOUGH! We have had it and we are doing something about it! All the Anti-Obama rehtoric is just "more of the same" saying "oh no you don't!". And US saying YES WE CAN!!!
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Mar 15th 2008 at 8:15 am EDT
I've been able to work in New Hampshire since November, then travel to South Carolina, Georgia, and Texas. I'm headed up to Pennsylvania in less than a week, with hopes of campaigning in Oregon and Montana after.
As your typical, starving college student, I have little money and any money I do have goes to my travels for the campaign.
And so I hope that with your help I will be able to raise an amazing goal:
One hundred thousand dollars.
Link
It's an ambitious goal, I know that. But, as we all know, every little bit help. Every $10, $25, $50, $100 gets us closer and closer.
I also ask that you share this link and this goal with your friends, co-workers, family. We need a lot of money heading in PA and the 9 contests afterwards. I don't want this to be my fundraising, I want it to be OUR fundraising, because that's the kind of community we are.
So please, let us ALL work together towards this goal.
Thank you,
Blake
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Marcia--One who believes in Dreams!
Mar 15th 2008 at 8:52 am EDT
So right you all are and we need to get back to the business at hand. On Hardball last night, Chris Matthews and panel talked about the "pitch" to the Superdelegates regarding the "big" states and the advantage of the popular vote. I'll be on the phone today to PA encouraging people to register as Democrats in support of Barack. Also, please check this out
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because we need all the support we can get to continue the cause. Yes We Can!!
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Jeannie "Make Three Wishes on Her Bottle of Hope for One and All" in PA
Mar 15th 2008 at 8:43 am EDT
And to add to that sentiment, Mary, everyone please check out whyobamaworks --
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Connie Obama (Not held hostage by polls or media)
Mar 15th 2008 at 9:08 am EDT
Mary, so true. Guess this is why HRC has now adapted to a "grass roots" style campaign in PA as one paper said. She has copied everything she's seen work for Obama:
1. his entire website strategy and on-line funding
2. first she mocked him for talking about "change" and hope then started using it herself
3. trying her best to speak as he does (no way!)
4. she & Bill trying to act so romantic in the last month, kissing, hugging so people will think they're close like the Obamas. PLEASE! In the 8 years Bill was in office you never saw this and they only held hands walking back & forth to Air Force 1 whenever any of Bill's affairs blew up, especially Monica Lewinsky and the impeachment.
(I was around and remember!!)
5. she started sending Chelsea to College campuses to get some youth voters, whom she had ignored before march 4th
So. we already know she's devious and a liar (read Huffington Post each day), but her supporters either don't know or don't care. But in case they don't know this is for them!
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Abomanite from brooklyn
Mar 15th 2008 at 9:33 am EDT
Jesus was the first change agent and look what happened to him, so was Dr. King, JFK, Malcolm X, Marcus garvey, I can go on and on, usually change agents are attacked and crucified, because they are interfering with the status cho, rmeember he said he needed our help because he expects to be attacked left and right for trying to this nation.
But the change has started and cannot be stopped, the moving have already been formed. they even try to attack us personal.
Last night I was threatened to be hurt while blogging on the Democratic party website.
laboor and deliver nurse supporter of the movement of change.
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Mary from Vermont
Mar 15th 2008 at 7:55 am EDT
Just go to this link to see all of the Barack coverage in one place. Cris has done a fantastic job of managing this blog. Thanks, Cris!!!
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Dude for Hope who is really, really proud to be an Iowan
Mar 15th 2008 at 8:33 am EDT
You didn't mention Iowa. Here is a link to the letter I sent to Senator Harkin earlier this week. It's too long to include in full.
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Sandra from Henrietta, NY
Mar 15th 2008 at 10:04 am EDT
I think these links should be removed. Your intentions a great. Everyone who visits this blog may not abide by good intentions and make things worse. Superdelegates should not have to be bombarded with pressure. They will make choices based on the way this campaign is conducted and the voices of their people. To expose them to the entire nation is unethical.
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Alex
Mar 15th 2008 at 10:53 am EDT
I have written my superdelegates many times. I live in WA. We went for Obama by a landslide, yet most of our superdelegates are still going for HRC. The contact info is broadly availible, this is hardley secret information. I think it is our duty to tell them what we think. They are supposed to represent US.
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Carol-STL-MO
Mar 16th 2008 at 3:48 pm EDT
Represent..YES .... Be pressued & bombarded.. NO
Let the people in charge of Obama's campaign & the officals that have already endorsed him handle this.
I'm sure the Superdelegates WILL make the right decision..based on the WILL of the people they represent.
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Jen Rencher from Jersey City
Mar 15th 2008 at 11:42 am EDT
I respectfully disagree. The whole point of this movement is to get The People involved in politics again so that we can take our country back from special interests. One of the best ways of getting involved is to make your voice heard and that's what these letters are for. We're showing the super delegates that many different types of people from all across the nation support Obama and want to see him as our next President.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 11:50 am EDT
WHAT IS WITH JOHN EDWARDS? WHAT IS THE REASON FOR HIS HESITANCE TO ENDORSE? DOESN'T HE SEE THAT A PROLONGED CAMPAIGN AND A POSSIBLE DUBIOUS OUTCOME COULD DESTROY THE PARTY? DOESN'T HE LOVE HIS PARTY? WE REALLY COULD USE HIS ENDORSEMENT TO RALLY THE BLUE-COLLAR VOTE IN PENNSYLVANIA. IT WILL BE GREAT IF HE COULD JOIN OUR MOVEMENT AND CAMPAIGN FOR BARACK. IT COULD MAKE THE DIFFERENCE. PLEASE LET US APPEAL TO HIM IN PARTICULAR.
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James a Vietnam Vet from NC
Mar 15th 2008 at 2:28 pm EDT
If Edwards had run again for Senate in NC he would have lost. he was recognized as an egoist here and not responsive to the people he reprented. He will endorse a'winner' only. He looks out for himself and not who is the best candidate.
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Mar 17th 2008 at 2:40 am EDT
Please post this or its modified likeness among blogs you visit. “Clinton's languishing campaign for a back-door deal to sway super-delegates has tacitly accepted help from republican pro-activists who are ginning up a narrative for the General Election, casting OBAMA as the anti-patriot, anti-American, (the Deceiver who must be stopped at all costs), up against the war hero - McCain. If we do not assail these claims for what they are, emotional appeals to foster manufactured outrage directed at Obama, like the lies spread to justify the lead up to the invasion of Iraq, that successfully got a majority to believe Iraq was behind 9-11, a rationalization which lingered even years after such claims where patently disproved, our country will suffer much for it. Please check out this group on face book
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Mar 15th 2008 at 7:06 am EDT
More over Barack you have been called for such a time as this! I am told that those who are called and predestined by GOD cannot be stopped by people like Hannity, Blitzer, MorningJoe or Hillary Clinton! Our prayers are with you! Be strong and take courage, and may God's Goodness, mercy and protection follow you, Michelle and your daughters throughout this campaign and your presidency!
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CeCe in South Carolina where everyone is not a jerk like Wilson
Mar 15th 2008 at 7:21 am EDT
Amen!
I believe that Obama will continue to be a force to be reckoned with in this election.
I love Obama & Michelle. They are needed for such a time as this!
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Cynthia, NY -- I TOLD YOU BARACK WOULD WIN! NOW Let's Get Our Leader to 1600 Penn. Ave.
Mar 15th 2008 at 8:50 am EDT
HALLELUJAH! Praise HIS NAME!!
My Friends: There is need for MUCH, MUCH Prayer at this time. They are rearing their ugly heads; they are leaving no stone unturned; they are doing everything to tear our leader down. It is time for Prayer, It is time for Prayer. Pray without ceasing.
It was sickening to look at the repetitive airing of those videos. Like Barack, I do not believe in what his pastor was saying; but he has denounced it, repeatedly; but those negative powers that be will not leave it alone, its the opportunity they have been looking for to tear him apart, but let us stand firm. His (Barack's)word are most important, let us take him at his word, not someone else's word. Which one of us cannot can say we had the same experience, because I'm sure we have all experienced someone else saying things in front of and around us, did not approve of it, probably renounced it, but life goes on... same should be for Barack.
Sean Hannity... Pray for him, what negative energy, negative passion.. for RATINGS!
I am standing FIRM, and nothing will turn me around... at least not anything like this. Those were NOT HIS WORDS!
ONWARD & UPWARD!!
YES WE CAN!!
OBAMA '08
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Mar 15th 2008 at 10:38 am EDT
I read some where that said MCcain might win. Yeah right. The reason they stated that was because Hillary and Obama are campaigning against each other. Sorry this is not a new concept. As a matter of fact it has been going on for several hundred years. I didn't know that campaigning was something new. That doesn't give Mccain an automatic win. Sorry the American voter is going to want much more than that from thier president. Not someone who is sitting back waiting to be president. I don't really think that is how it works .
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Patty in OR
Mar 15th 2008 at 10:53 am EDT
I heard a Hillary campaign guy say on AAR yesterday how it was the Barack campaign that started slinging mud etc., and it was them that put the negative focus on Hillary, instead of McCain. Well, I think it's Barack's job to show why he'd be a better president than Hillary, as this is the PRIMARY already, folks, not the general. McCain will lose by a landslide, because Barack will be the nominee. Hillary is digging the hole deeper and deeper, and all her spokespeople seem bent on helping her do that. The more false things they keep saying about Barack, the more people will flock to his banner.
Pointing out the negatives of the opponent in a political contest seems quite legitimate to me, especially when paired with such positives as Barack Obama has to offer.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 12:59 pm EDT
I think he has already shown why he should be president. Yestereday, he had the class to stand up to a dear friend of his, because he didn't believe in the words in the sermon. He had the guts to get on all the television stations, including FOX News, to tell people the truth. And it may not have been on FOX, but a lot of commentators on different news networks mentioned that the letter that he sent out to the news networks was not only classy, but it showed his integrity.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 11:23 am EDT
I read some where that said MCcain might win. Yeah right. The reason they stated that was because Hillary and Obama are campaigning against each other. Sorry this is not a new concept. As a matter of fact it has been going on for several hundred years. I didn't know that campaigning was something new. That doesn't give Mccain an automatic win. Sorry the American voter is going to want much more than that from thier president. Not someone who is sitting back waiting to be president. I don't really think that is how it works .
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Mar 15th 2008 at 8:54 am EDT
HALLELUJAH! Praise HIS NAME!!
My Friends: There is need for MUCH, MUCH Prayer at this time. They are rearing their ugly heads; they are leaving no stone unturned; they are doing everything to tear our leader down. It is time for Prayer, It is time for Prayer. Pray without ceasing.
It was sickening to look at the repetitive airing of those videos. Like Barack, I do not believe in what his pastor was saying; but he has denounced it, repeatedly; but those negative powers that be will not leave it alone, its the opportunity they have been looking for to tear him apart, but let us stand firm. His (Barack's)word are most important, let us take him at his word, not someone else's word. Which one of us cannot can say we had the same experience, because I'm sure we have all experienced someone else saying things in front of and around us, did not approve of it, probably renounced it, but life goes on... same should be for Barack.
Sean Hannity... Pray for him, what negative energy, negative passion.. for RATINGS!
I am standing FIRM, and nothing will turn me around... at least not anything like this. Those were NOT HIS WORDS!
ONWARD & UPWARD!!
YES WE CAN!!
OBAMA '08
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Mar 15th 2008 at 10:10 am EDT
I Thessalonians 5:15
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MY HEART OUTSHINES MY SMILE
Mar 15th 2008 at 10:56 am EDT
I am praying that God Assign an Angel to walk with you, to carry you.
I am praying that God has the last say in this matter.
I am speachless on this issue. However I will continue to stand side of Barack Obama.
Jesus was accused of many things, he was killed because of what he believed in.
Obama will rise again and make his name known for good and not bad.
I have so many questions that are running thru my head right now!
But I know one thing, I prayed about who I was surpose to vote for in the beginning.
I trust that God didn't give me the wrong answer.
God has found favor in me that he would not steer me in the wrong direction.
I trust God with all my heart, soul and being.
I believe God will work all this out for the good of those who trust him.
There are so many people that are out to destroy Obama. We must pray and find Unity in Obama. And we must not let anyone, I mean it, anyone distract from the will of GOD.
God will have the last say.
I am going to make a donation, because that is how much I am trusting God is going to work all this out.
Be Blessed and pray
Everyone please pray this prayer
God, I love you & I need you
Forgive me for all my wrong, living, thinking and doing. I believe in you God, I know you didn't bring me this far to leave me. God, Bless all that are of you and believe in you. God, enter in my heart and the family of Obama, give them peace, and understanding. Bless all the people on this site and who visit daily. Father God we pray that your will be done, not man's will but your will. I pray for peace on earth and good will towards man. Please have mercy on me and my family. Amen.
We will be stronger to fight the arrows of the Devil. God is in "TOTAL" control. No weapons form against us will prosper. God is in total control. Trust God.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 4:00 am EDT
Amen brother! It is good this came out now. It will serve as inoculation in the general election. I dont see this story playing past wednesday of next week.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 4:10 am EDT
I agree with you but it will be replayed when going up against McCain. What is important is that we dispite the issue at hand have come alittle closer together. Venting ones feelings is a good thing!
Now make no mistake about it, If there is a question of Obama's ability to be a Commander and Chief or his ability to lead this country I think has been answered for good. Do you think HRC would have survived an attack like this? Hell no!
Mr Obama has been true to his word from day one, he stood by his personnal beliefs and nobody has jolted him or shook him off his firm fondation. If that is not a sign or a pillar of a man who should be the President of these United States than I don't know how to determine the measurement.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 10:29 am EDT
When they play it up against McCain, DNC can simply replay the right wing evangelicalssaying 9/11 was America's fault because of gays, liberals, etc....
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Mar 15th 2008 at 1:49 pm EDT
One of Obama's advisors did an excellent job on GMA yesterday re the Pastor's. Check it out:
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Carolyn from Lubbock, TX
Mar 15th 2008 at 5:58 am EDT
Me too. I'm not the praying type, but now...
I teach a class in visual culture at texas tech, and in this class we've been watching the election coverage very closely. Back in January I warned my students that soon we'd be smelling the stench of America airing it's dirty laundry. So, here it is. The smell of a country that hasn't faced itself or honestly dealt with its past.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 9:35 am EDT
If anyone isn't sure how to explain Wright's comments IN CONTEXT --
Black and white churches have historicaly been the most segregated institutions in our nation, and remain so today, out of tradition more than anything else. People go to church where they see familiar faces. They go to churches in their communities, still lagely segregated today.
To begin, Trinity United Church of Christ is one chapter of a much larger, fairly white nationwide church.
They preach messages of inclusion. They preach messages of community. This is how the "black values" system came into play.
The US has largely crapped upon black Americans for the better part of 400 years. That started to change about... 40 years ago. We still see the economic and social ramifications of segregation (sometimes the term "apartheid" is more approprite) today.
Barack was deeply moved by the strong community Wright had built at Trinity United. The church started with just a couple hundred members and grew to a few thousand members. People were drawn there because of the church's focus on community building. South Chicago communities were not exactly strong communities, and they still are more broken that white communities today.
Overall, black Americans have experienced a history unlike most white Americans. This is all true. This can be supported with mountains of historical evidence. Any educated person cannot argue that black and white people in this nation have shared a similar past, generally speaking.
I love this nation and its people so much I've said horrible things about our leaders, especially current leadership, as well as the Clintons. They have NEVER served the people. They have long records of serving themselves and their "friends".
Black Americans certainly have the right to be critical of a hypocritical government. We might not express this recognition of hypocrisy the same way, but we can't deny its existence.
Reverend Wright's job, as his pastor, is to lift his community. I have no doubt he does NOT preach this way every Sunday. He's be known as another Farakhan if he did.
Speaking of Farakhan, most do denounce and reject him and his messages. It can also not be denied that he's inspired a multitude of people to make their lives better through self-help and lifing oneself up out of hardship and misery.
I wish some of the liberal pundits would address Wright's comments through historical and rhetorical lenses.
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♥ dreamweaver "Grab A Mop" ♥ aka Vicki from Iowa
Mar 15th 2008 at 11:58 am EDT
David Gergan tried to explain this last night. He is one of the wisest and impartial political pundits on the air waves.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 12:50 pm EDT
You are so right about David Gergen who has always impressed me as a true patriot, and a reasonable man who does not just spout the party line. He seems to have mastered what Barack speaks of so eloquently...to try to understand the experiences of other and apprciate that they are not necessarily his own. I truly admire and respect him.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 2:42 pm EDT
I know David Gergen and his family. He worked in the Clinton administration and is pro-Hillary. I'm sorry, but this time he is biased.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 2:48 pm EDT
I know David Gergen and his family. He worked in the Clinton administration and is pro-Hillary. I'm sorry, but this time he is biased.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 8:36 am EDT
To all: please search out the posting community blogs for my username: joythelioness and read my 4 part post regarding a better way for our candidate to handle negative non-issues related topics that come up, such as the one this week regarding his pastor. After I saw a poll Friday that indicated 61% of people polled indicated that their view of Barack had changed because of the story, I realized that something had to be done differently in dealing with these types of stories in the future.
In the future Barack should be advised not to comment on every negative issue the media turns into the "issue du jour". This only gives these negative stories life and breath and legitimize them when they are really just dirty politics and have no place in this campaign.
A short taped statement by Barack indicating that this devisive stance indicated on the tapes by his pastor and that exist within our communities is the very thing his campaign wishes to end and is in no way his shared view, just as John McCain's views are not necessarily shared with his religious endorsers, and Hillary Clinton indicated she did not share the same views as one of her main campaign fund raisers, Geraldine Farraro.
This way he would remind people that they all have been hit with media biases regarding the extreme views of their supporters and they have all denounced them in one way or another.
Barack succeded in the beginning of his campaign by showing he was truly above the fray, campainging and responding only regarding the issues and not giving any credance to negative things spoken about him or his campaign. He did his thing on the stump, and did not enter the silly season of politics. He must continue on this vein of separateness and a different way of approaching things, if we wish to be successful as it truly is a winning strategy.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:47 am EDT
Yes we can!
I am glad there is an open thread tonite. I don't often post, but I felt the need to be apart of my Obama family tonite. Together we shall stand, realizing, that "change" won't be easy. Yet, change is coming!
Obama 08
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Mar 15th 2008 at 4:16 am EDT
Many people are in a similar financial situation to myself, living on a small pension or SSDI, unable to walk the streets knocking on doors, lacking the means or ability to spend countless hours calling prospective voters.
If this is you, here is your chance to contribute whatever you can spare, (as little as $5.00) will help us win the White House and return this country to the path that our founding fathers had envisioned and fought so hard to create, that our own fathers and grandfathers defended with their blood and that the current men and woman serving abroad deserve to come home to. A country with an agenda that is not mired in self made turmoil and devisive politics.
Help bring the dream to fruition, donate today!
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Anything you can give will be appreciated.
Thank you in advance.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 4:31 am EDT
Please give this video a look, I found it very well made. Its a new one from ObamaTX.
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Elizabeth from New York, NY
Mar 15th 2008 at 5:58 am EDT
This is an amazing video. Great work!
I strongly suggest that this video should be used for forthcoming ads.
Good Job!
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BARBARA in Queens, NY
Mar 15th 2008 at 8:39 am EDT
this is a very powerful video for barack. the video had me crying. i hope obama will be able to use this video on tv. also i loved the commentator voice so stron and on point just awesome.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 7:09 am EDT
Beautiful - a must see.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 7:52 am EDT
LV Brilliant!!!
Extremely Powerful Video … Through the ups and downs Sen. OBAMA … All the way … Yes We Can!!! OBAMA 2008
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BetGR - ENOUGH!!!!!
Mar 15th 2008 at 8:10 am EDT
What a powerful video! It brought tears to my eyes and anger for how much money is being wasted. It brought to light how much a trillion dollars is - and what it could have done for our country - and the world (in terms of health care and peace). Thank you for sharing this. We need it out there to show to those people who don't get it.
Obama Must Win and I would also love to see Mrs. Obama as first lady!
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Mar 15th 2008 at 8:40 am EDT
hey, that video was soo strong and amazing, please continue to post the link, a lot of people dont really realize what this war means, a lot forget how soo many have died for a lost cause, and people need to see the clear distinction in judgement between Barack, Clinton and Mccain.
OBAMA 08...yes we will!!!
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Mar 15th 2008 at 8:47 am EDT
Excellent video-thanks for posting the link, and keep posting so that the video gets seen a "trillion" times.
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Marcia--One who believes in Dreams!
Mar 15th 2008 at 10:06 am EDT
This video was amazing!! Yes, I cried, as a mother of 3 sons serving in branches of the military and for the lives that have been lost and will be lost. Please check out my blog "Military Mom 4 Obama". Bush actually made a statement yesterday saying this war could be "romantic"! We need change, we need vision, we need Obama!!
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Connie Obama (Not held hostage by polls or media)
Mar 15th 2008 at 10:43 am EDT
Thank you for the video!! I, too, hope BHO uses it because it is powerful and will re-focus on the war. I cried as I watched because I have a son who, like too many, has already been there and is on his way back!!! This gov't likes to say "we support our troops". Well, here's the truth:
1. why was the Air Force suing the gov't last week because they withheld life saving tanks that were here in America, all because they wanted to buy them two years from now from a foreign country that no doubt has a contract with Haliburton? The AF said at least 100 lives could have been saved from roadside bombs if these troops would have been in those tanks!
2. when my son fought in Bosnia (Clinton's war), I personally had to go in my pocket and go to the MCSS (Military Clothing Sales Store) on post to buy and send him special Kevlar gloves and military thermal socks (he has some permanent nerve damage due to frost bite)
3. I and other family members have had to help out my son's family (gladly) because the gov't pays them so little while they sit back and make billions off of this war (Clinton included).
4. military bases used to be safe places to live. Now, gangs roam the entire base just like in inner cities. Why? Because the fathers and mothers have been gone too much and for too long! The families are in shambles, with increased divorce and domestic violence as never seen before. Why? Because as BHO has said (& he's the only one), "our troops are not being properly screened for PTSD (Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome) when they come back." I'm a witness!!!
Again, I could go on. The point is HRC, Bush & McCain want the focus off the war, telling people the war and surge voted for is working. WHAT THEY DON'T SAY IS SOLDIERS ARE STILL DYING!!! Somewhere between 8 and 12 died this week alone. It makes me angry that the daily death rate has been reduced to a mere streamer at the bottom of the TV screen!!!! What's so sad is that they, with the help of the MSM, have gotten the people to fall for this; it's been pushed far down the agenda!
HRC doesn't want to focus on it because she can't get
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Mar 15th 2008 at 10:51 am EDT
To LV Duckworth,
Hi, how goes the fund raising?
Thank you for the link, I will share this powerful message ASAP.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 12:10 pm EDT
I think you see that HQ sees this video. Excellent!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Sheron from Baltimore, MD
Mar 15th 2008 at 11:26 am EDT
Wow, my sentiments exactly!!! I feel that these negative views of our future president, has hurt my heart. Not because of what his pastor said, because most of his views were true...him being a poor black man in america. But, because of the way supporters have decided to drop B.O because of what his pastor said without research on why this man may feel this way. How many of us have sat in church and listened to views that didn't represent your own. It's because what comes out of the mouths of our spiritual leaders, usually, are words of love , wisdom, and godliness. One slip of the tongue, is not what makes a pastor, but what he has said throughout that has moved us in some way. I have heard what McCain's church leaders consist of....does Hilliary have a church?
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Mar 15th 2008 at 9:39 am EDT
While some of you may have let this recent unfortunate media smear distract you or even dampen your spirit, there are more of us for whom this is not the case. Fellow Obamacrats please listen! If you think that a man who is pereceived as an African American is going to be elected president of these United States (and he will be elected by the way) without the issue of race being raised, you are mistaken. If it wasn't the videos of Rev. Wright, it would be something else. Frankly, I do not think it is such a bad thing that the issue of race--which is indeed an issue in the U.S.--has risen in this campaign. How else will the country be brought together if it is not open to a discussion of this issue as will as those we are more comfortable with discussing--health care, education, etc. I am a college professor for almost 20 years now. I teach courses in intercultural/international relations. As I tell my students--the majority of whom are White--we cannot move beyond the issue of "race" or anything else by ignoring it or pretending that it doesn't exist. As true supporters of Obama, we must not be afraid of an open discussion of "race". Denounce, reputiate, dissassocite with anyone who sprue hateful words by all means. Also, often times what looks or sounds like anger/hate is actually the expression of feelings of hurt/pain. I certainly believe this is what we heard in the voices of both Geraldine Farraro and Wright this past week. Farraro, who may feel that she has been oppressed and discriminated against because of her gender, is openly dealing with her hurt through this process. It is important for us as believers in "change", "unity", "GOD", "prayer" and a better country and world to be open to a discussion of these issues. Otherwise, our campaign purpose and mission are no different from all the rest! Let's be encouraged and get back to supporting Barack in donations, making phones and door to door canvassing. I am calling a list of superdelegates and encouraging them to pledge their support of Obama. Please join me. See list this thread.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 11:31 am EDT
To Virginia from Oklahoma City, OK,
I agree with your point on the origins of hurt and pain in regard to Ferraro.
I am a retired registered nurse and have witnessed first hand how the grieving process manifests itself.
The process is unique for every individual, and it follows a nonlinear path, in short, healing takes time.
Let's hope Ferraro will gain some insight soon and move on with her life.
YES WE CAN
Obama 'O8
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Mar 15th 2008 at 10:14 am EDT
THE MINISTER THING
Here's my talking point, and it's honest;
I don't always agree with my parents, let alone my pastor. But of course I still love and respect them. Would you say your parents (or anyone for that matter) always speaks well for you? Human beings are not perfect, only God can always speak for me.
Love & All Good Things,
Greg
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Nancy M.
Mar 15th 2008 at 10:50 am EDT
Greg, I was thinking this morning that my talking point is this:
How many people sit in their churches on Sunday mornings, listening to their preacher spout HATE against gays and lesbians, but think their church is very wrong to take that stance.
Are those people responsible for the hate and divisiveness that is being preached? Or are they responsible for how they treat gays and lesbians? How they ACT.
Even worse than that are the entire denominations that have a policy to exclude gays and lesbians. They don't just preach hate and divisiveness, they actually practice discrimination in a very deliberate way.
Is every person who belongs to that church responsible for that policy? For that discrimination? For that divisiveness? Or are they responsible for how they treat gays and lesbians? How they ACT.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 11:48 am EDT
To Nancy from Champaign, Il
I Corinthians 6: 1-4
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Mar 15th 2008 at 1:58 pm EDT
Sorry, no bible.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 6:26 am EDT
Now, Obama is not any more a Muslim, but a Christian, which is very good.
-Now, every one has to know that a true Christian does not leave church because of Pastor unexpected comment. The pastor represents Jesus-Christ, and his message is, for us Christians, from God. Otherwise why going to Church.
-If you do not like the pastor's message, the most a true Christian would do is to just forget it, but it would be a serious disrespect to God to confront or humiliate his minister. You do not know if the message is truly from God him self. Even if you do not like it. Preachers tell us what Jesus-Christ want them to say, and not what church members or the media like to hear.
-Preachers work more for Jesus-Christ than for the country they are from. They are even supposed to go around the world to preach for Jesus-Christ. Also, the Bible says that the message of God appears some time creasy, stupid, and foolish for human, but it is right.
-In the Bible, a lot of people and countries disagreed with prophets and preachers because of theirs messages from God. At the end, ministers of God were right.
If you listen to Rev.Wright with a free mind, you would understand that the key of his messages could also come from God. Nobody would say that he/She knows what Jesus-Christ exactly thinks about situations around the world. Nobody would say that Jesus-Christ is a citizen of one particular country, so he has to think as a politician of that country would. His ministers around the world, including Rev. Wright, have to think in God's philosophy.
-About HRC comment, if you listen well to Rev. Wright, you would understand that he was just saying that Obama knows black's problems better than HRC because he had lived those problems most of his life. He was trying to convince blacks voters who were more for HRC than for Obama. This message could be his own, but a Christian would not leave the church for that. The tone has made it so estrange.
-Also, Obama would not any way be against whites. His mom was white. Let's be real.
-I recommand a debate at C-SPAN with Rev. Wright, so he can explain his message. I know, people would understand him even if some would disagree.
-We will contribute to finance it.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 7:52 am EDT
Sadly,
I heard on the news last night the IRS is investigating that church (Trinity) for talking about a political candidate from the pulpit, and could lose its tax exempt status.
Of course none of the evangelical churches did that to GOTV for Bush in 00 and 04.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 8:13 am EDT
From what I have seen/heard PERSONALLY Evangelical churches ENDORSED Bush in 00 and 04. Having gone to Evangelical churches I know.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 10:17 am EDT
African American ministers have always used the pulpit to endorse politicians. Bill Clinton is usually seen in black churches using the pulpit thanking ministers for thier endorsements. Remember when he was running for president in 1992 and even now as he campaigns for his wife, he is often seen in the black churchs at the pulpit with ministers.
The IRS can not go after Rev. Wright now after ignoring years of the same actions from other ministers. Senator Obama has said "The road to the White House will not be easy".
Lets remain focused on the issues and help Senator Obama by making calls to residents in PA.
OBAMA 08.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 10:19 am EDT
I heard about the IRS thing a week or two ago on NPR. It's about an event where Wright spoke in New Jersey, I think. He was invited to speak there long before the presidential campaign was underway. It was scheduled over a year in advance. There were Obama supporters there, and told they could not be in the church. They did their Obama support thing outside on the public sidewalk and there was nothing the church could do to stop that.
It was not an event to sponsor Obama, and the media has poked into the story enough already to find this much out.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 8:55 am EDT
It is really an insult to think that America is still so uniformed that they would believe Barack is a radical racist. I suppose that is the message being conveyed. It is illogical, because it would make him hate his own mother. I in no way believe that is possible. I would urge everyone who reads this to focus on two things.
First,Barack entered this race empowered by hope, he brought a message so great that he brought people from everywhere together with one word,...hope. One of his opponents even called him a modern day messiah! All of this because he brought hope to much of the world (not just America) Faith is the substance of things hoped for.
Next, his Democratic opponent has never been questioned about her faith. Perhaps because it is not controversial. However, through his opponent, the people are now divided because of fear. Why is that? Fear is the exact opposite of faith. Does his opponent have any Love for the Lord at all? How can you love the Lord and gain by frightening and dividing the people? That is a question each one must pursue of his or her own accord.
I believe that true leadership requires having the ability to bring people together. It means touching hearts, and building the strengths of people. It does not mean filling hearts (that have often been broken) with fear.
This campaign cannot be transformed from a message of hope to a message of hate. I do not believe God will allow that to happen...but I urge those who are following this election to consider which candidate has been a messenger of hope, and which has been a messenger of hate, and consider how you want to live your life. Decide on what is true thereafter.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 9:40 am EDT
In my opinion Reverand Wright needs to stay off of the television and not have a debate on C-Span.
We need to begin to call PA today and remind people to vote.
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Laura in Tallahassee, FL
Mar 15th 2008 at 10:23 am EDT
I would like to see more of Wright on television. This was not the rhetoric he heaped upon followers week after week. If he had done so every week, he'd be as reviled as Farakhan, who I don't support one iota, but know has been a powerful influence for the betterment of individual lives of people in this nation for decades.
Wright's Trinity United Church of Christ has been building community fromt he bottom up for decades. I'm confident proof of this is coming, but I'm also certain FOX won't give it significant airtime.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 10:04 am EDT
i agree with everything you have said here. we must deal with this issue of race early in this election and stay strong. barack must stay the course and not get caught up in all this silly stuff. the media is just ditracting people from looking at barack the person and all that he stands for, thank you for this post. i live in new york and i am goning to pennysylvania to show my support for barack. i wish we would have a rally for barack in every state at the same time with a live feed from barack. this way we can show the country that we stand strong and we are not feeding into this madness. we believe in barack and the postive changes he can bring about for our great country!
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Mar 15th 2008 at 9:37 am EDT
While some of you may have let this recent unfortunate media smear distract you or even dampen your spirit, there are more of us for whom this is not the case. Fellow Obamacrats please listen! If you think that a man who is pereceived as an African American is going to be elected president of these United States (and he will be elected by the way) without the issue of race being raised, you are mistaken. If it wasn't the videos of Rev. Wright, it would be something else. Frankly, I do not think it is such a bad thing that the issue of race--which is indeed an issue in the U.S.--has risen in this campaign. How else will the country be brought together if it is not open to a discussion of this issue as will as those we are more comfortable with discussing--health care, education, etc. I am a college professor for almost 20 years now. I teach courses in intercultural/international relations. As I tell my students--the majority of whom are White--we cannot move beyond the issue of "race" or anything else by ignoring it or pretending that it doesn't exist. As true supporters of Obama, we must not be afraid of an open discussion of "race". Denounce, reputiate, dissassocite with anyone who sprue hateful words by all means. Also, often times what looks or sounds like anger/hate is actually the expression of feelings of hurt/pain. I certainly believe this is what we heard in the voices of both Geraldine Farraro and Wright this past week. Farraro, who may feel that she has been oppressed and discriminated against because of her gender, is openly dealing with her hurt through this process. It is important for us as believers in "change", "unity", "GOD", "prayer" and a better country and world to be open to a discussion of these issues. Otherwise, our campaign purpose and mission are no different from all the rest! Let's be encouraged and get back to supporting Barack in donations, making phones and door to door canvassing. I am calling a list of superdelegates and encouraging them to pledge their support of Obama. Please join me. See list this thread.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 10:33 am EDT
Thank you, VN. I teach English to international students from around the world, every day. We openly discuss ethnic differences almost every day. I, in fact, encourage my students to use the word "ethnicity" because it's 1) a more accurate way to describe ourselves and what's perceived as "race" -- a manmade notion only -- is just one part of that equation and 2) because the word "race" itself is inflammatory, not that it should be, but just hearing it makes some people uncomfortable.
Political correctness, which some take way too far, has kept people from speaking the truth for years. The truth sometimes hurts. Example: Black Americans held the lowest social status in this country only until the last few decades of Latino immigration. To acknowledge that is seen by some as somehow offensive to whites.
To blame me, a white individual, would be ridiculous. Wright is not a man who would do that, however. Acknowledging African-American history and experience through the eyes, hearts, and minds of African-Americans is simply the acknowledgment of a truth many white Americans haven't experienced.
Treating Wright like the plague is the WRONG thing to do. Using Wright's sermons will hopefully lead to more messages and presentations by Wright that have encouraged uplifting oneself and community from the lowest point on the socioeconomic ladder.
Treating Wright like the plague would make it appear Obama has something to be ashamed of. I consider his experience with his church to be something commendable, because I've read in his autobiography how he came to join it, and it's hardly offensive in any way. His story of how he came to join the church is moving and inspirational, and I hope it gets circulated.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 2:54 am EDT
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Thanks for the overnight thread, Joe! We really appreciate it.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:09 am EDT
LOL, that was funny, Joe.
HQ's got jokes!
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:32 am EDT
Please Send your copy of AUDACITY OF HOPE or Dreams of my Father by Obama to Any Penn. Public library. Everyone who reads these books becomes active. there is a ten week wait here at my public library to get a copy!!!! Please, please this is something very easy. just send it with a donation note. cut and paste this mesage all over these boards (make it Viral and keep it going). we need all the help we can get in Penn.
hope over Fear
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Mar 15th 2008 at 7:26 am EDT
Justin, can you post the address for the library or can I send it to the PA HQ?
I will put this in the mail next week, but I won't send my copies. I'll buy a few more and send them.
Thanks!
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Mar 15th 2008 at 9:38 am EDT
Justin:
This is a great idea.
Also, for those who have already given their max to the primary or who (like myself) are ineligible to contribute, we could probably order some copies from on-line providers and have them shipped to PA libraries. Am I right?
Please post an address and perhaps a contact name.
Thanks!
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Mar 15th 2008 at 10:09 am EDT
We should send it to Shawn Hannity.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 7:05 am EDT
MY HEART IS VERY HONEST AND I THINK BARACK OBAMA IS A HONEST MAN WHO IS TRUE TO IS WORD, I ACCEPT HIM AND IS PLANS TO MAKE THIS GREAT COUNTRY WE ALL LOVE BETTER.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 7:05 am EDT
WE MUST SPREAD THE TRUTH, SINCE BARACK CAN'T. THIS IS A MOVIE ABOUT HILLARY. IF YOU REALLY WANT TO KNOW ABOUT AMERICA'S FAVORITE FIRST LADY!
Watch all 9 parts, especially part 2 and 3:
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Mar 15th 2008 at 12:52 pm EDT
Sorry for spam..
Can someone please make this viral. I am sicking of watching MSM with this on the tip of my tongue, yet NO-ONE addresses it.
I am sick of Hillary spin.
RONALD REAGAN LOST PENNSYLVANIA IN THE PRMARIES BUT WON IN THE GENERAL ELECTION.
IN 2000 AL GORE WON NEW HAMPSHIRE IN THE PRIMARIES, BUT LOST IT TO G.W. BUSH. THE KICKER IS THAT BUSH LOST N.H. MISERABLY IN HIS PRIMARY CONTEST.
Ted Kennedy beat Jimmy Carter in the 1980 Pennsylvania primary, but it was Carter who won the nomination.
Secondly, Pennsylvania has not played a leading role in choosing a nominee in a quarter-century. Since 1984 the primaries were already wrapped up by time the dems got to Pennsylvania.
Finally, for Obama, potential swing states like Virginia and Colorado (or others) would essentially undo the damage of a possible Pennsylvania defeat in the GE.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 7:46 am EDT
Do they need volunteers for the Indiana event today?
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Mar 15th 2008 at 9:21 am EDT
I want to first encourage all Obama supporters to be vigilant. America is a country that has not dealt with race relations in an effective way. Unfortunatley the issue of race rears its ugly head at the worst times, like during Katrina, or now during this very important election process. While I must consider some of Rev. Wrights comments over the top,I also understand that many simply may not like his delivery, but the deeper question in my mind that is really being overlooked is... Was there any truth to any of the comments Rev. Wright made? The fact is, many around the world feel America has been both arrogant and presumptuous in her foreign policy and the pre-emptive strike against Iraq is a prime example of that arrogance. The truth is, many white churches remain some of the most segregated places in America. The fact is, perhaps its time to find out why Rev. Wright feels the way he and many other Americians feel about race relations and other matters in America (angry) and if we begin to try to understand why he feels the way he feels instead of denouncing all that he has said (some of which may be very factual), we would all be better off for it. Even as America invaded Iraq, one of the big failures of going into this country was not understanding the people and as a result,America still struggles to win the hearts and minds of the Iraqi people. We must stop the foolishness of wanting to kill (literally or figuratively) people with whom we do not agree and try the intelligence of trying to gain understanding which is what I think Obama is all about. Anyone who thought race was not going to be an issue in this campaign was naive to say the least. This process is painful but necessary. When one has life saving surgery you are left sore and uncomfortable before you heal and get better.That is what is happening in American during this process. Obama now has a platform to address and bring race relations or the need for them to the forefront.I pray continually for Barack and his family. I know this campaign has to put tremendous pressure on his mind, body and soul, but I continue to say to myself
YES WE CAN.... BECAUSE WE MUST!
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Mar 15th 2008 at 9:22 am EDT
What seriously concerns me is this. 1. How can a man sit for 20 years under the teaching of a man who has this strong of views and know him personally, and not hear what he says? That makes no sense. 2. Mr. Obama says that HE KNEW of the "Wright" words way back when he started his campaigne, yet did NOT remove him from a leadership role in his campaigne as a "spiritual advisor" until YESTERDAY when he HAD TO for his OWN good - To me - that is talking out of both sides of his mouth. If it bothered him THAT bad, why wasn't it done way back when? That goes directly to MOTIVE of this man's views. 3. I find it very odd that on CNN last night Obama said that Wright was a "SPIRITUAL ADVISOR", even has him on his campaigne in a leadership position - calling him his "spiritual advisor" yet, in this letter I just read on his website, he NOW REFUTES THAT???? I'm concerned. I'm very concerned now. I might Like Obama personally - his nature and personality. But what Im starting to see is a gross difference in what he says and the people he associates with. I'm sure other Obama supporters, some - will never want to realize the truth of what is going on - others - those who are critical thinkers - will see it for what it really is........... Mr. Obama - I like you personally - but I dont trust you anymore - I believe you just lied to me - I saw it myself on CNN in your statement, and now I read the opposite on your website. Can't ANYONE TELL THE TRUTH? Can't ANYONE stop SPINNING THINGS to fit what they WANT others to think of them? Can't ANYONE, SOMEONE - just be HONEST?????? I'm sure this will cause all kinds of dialogue - I'm sorry if I offend anyone, but this is just WRONG and had to be said. God bless you - Lesa M
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Mar 15th 2008 at 9:44 am EDT
Lesa,
1. He knew he had strong views--and that he was angry over the way people on Chicago's South Side and elsewhere in America have been neglected for generations. But during twenty years, he didn't happen to catch those 30 seconds' worth of specific statements that were cherry-picked out of hundreds of hours' worth of speeches. (I took the time to listen to other sermons he's given, and they were utterly different and quite inspiring. I say this, by the way, as a white person.)
2.He did not remove Wright from his advisory position earlier because he had not heard all of the comments. Also, this man had brought him to Jesus and thereby changed his life 20 years before. For that, he's grateful. Naturally, he wishes he didn't have to officially separate from him. But now that he sees there's no alternative, he has done so.
3. Wright has been his spiritual adviser in helping him learn to serve God through serving the less fortunate. Because Wright went overboard for those 30 seconds (and don't you think we would have seen more of that kind of thing if there were any more to see?) he can's have an official position. But shouldn't we count ourselves lucky that Obama took away from Wright such a rare and desperately-needed mission to help us Americans out of the terrible crisis we're in?
He's being absolutely honest: He isn't turning his back on the good he gets from that highly-regarded church and congregation, but he refutes and does not share Wright's more extreme comments.
What's upsetting about that?
Obama is, in fact, of a younger generation that hasn't had to suffer to the extreme that men of Wright's generation did, in the '50s and '60s. He, and we, are fortunate to be able to move forward from the justifiable anger and start solving the problems that caused it.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 10:38 am EDT
it isn't uncommon to have controversial pastors in fact everyone has one
Bush had one
Mcaine has Hagee, who hates Catholics
Hillarys pastor is a convicted Paedophile.
You forget that in a campaign every thing is under microscopic scrutiny,
I for one think this is good for him everyone knows he has a controversial pastor and isn't a muslim.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 10:48 am EDT
This is how bad rumors get started - Please check out info thoroughly prior to posting!
This pastor was the pastor in CLINTON.NY NOT Hillary Clinton's pastor!
Former pastor found guilty of sex abuse
Updated: 01/22/2008 09:19 PM
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CLINTON N.Y. -- The former pastor of Resurrection Assembly of God church in Clinton is found guilty of sexually abusing a child. William Procanick was convicted Tuesday on charges of sexual abuse in the first degree and endangering the welfare of a child.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 11:19 am EDT
I will be honest. I am not here with a hidden agenda. I am not a troll. What I am is a Hillary supporter. With that said I would like to have an open dialogue to express what I have observed about this whole campaign. Let me just adress what is happening in the internet forum. What I have seen is very hateful comments being made about both candidates. On Obama friendly sites the hatred towards Clinton is very demeaning and despicable. The hatred on the Clinton friendly sites towards Obama is just as despicable. Now to me it did not seem to fit with the unity message of Obama and I could not understand how his supporters could be so hateful. So I had to step back and try to sort things out for myself. The conclusion I came up with is that no way true Obama supporters would behave in this manner. I know many of you have been to other blogs and have seen the vitriolic messages against Clinton. Ask yourself does this fit with Obama's message of hope and unity? No it doesn't. The same is true of Clinton supporters. (Well this Clinton supporter anyway as I cannot speak for all.) As a true Dem I do not condone any kind of discrimination at all. I too despise hate mongering. So I ask myself who does? Republicans do. So what I see happening is repubs posing as Obama supporters and Clinton supporters to create a division that cannot be healed. That is the only way McCain gets the whitehouse. You have seen these posers, you in the Obama blogs call them trolls, in the Clinton blogs they too are called trolls or Obamanots. What really set me off is on a Clinton friendly blog I noticed a blog asking would you vote McCain if Obama gets the nod? I daresay that Obama supporters have seen similar blogs asking the same if Clinton gets the nod will you vote McCain? I tell you that is exactly what the Repubs need to happen in order to win in November. I implore you to ask yourself who is the real enemy here? I will do my part and not buy into the negative spin the media is using to dupe the Dems until they implode. Hold your ground do not let the repubs ruin it for all of us.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 10:23 am EDT
Lesa from TN:
You have never heard Barack Obama use any of these words or express any of these feelings have you?
You have never heard Barack Obama say that he is perfect have you?
You
have
heard him say he has & will continue to work for the betterment of all.
If you are a critical thinker, as you say, then you should never, in any circumstance, no matter what you are trying to decide in your life be guided by a series of 30 second sound bites. Because if you do. In my opinion, your life will remain stagnant.
If you are this critical thinker. Then ask yourself the reason these Sermons have suddenly appeared and are played over & over.
I ask you to stay and campaign for Barack Obama because I truly believe he can change the lives of so many people.
This country can no longer continue the path it is on. Most people cannot keep up with the pace of what is happening to our economy.
We need to start ending this war in Iraq and we do not need to start another with Iran.
Most but, not all of the people that are running our Government have become complacented.
If you look at Barack Obama's total life and see what he has accomplished he is not and I don't believe will ever be complacent.
When you go to vote and look at the Candidates I hope you will find someone that is perfect & flawless.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 11:17 am EDT
Lesa, you are so correct. Judge the man by his words AND by his deeds. Who has ever heard Barack speak hateful words? Even when he has been under vicious assault, he has remained careful and respectful in his response. Who can report hateful deeds of this man? If they were out there, you can be sure that the Hannity/Limbaughs would have reported them by now. Lord knows, I would have lost my temper and lashed out at my attackers by now. But he never did. Barack's temperament is even and measured.
He has said many times that the best that is in him came from his dear deceased mother. Are we to believe now that he hates her? He has expressed his love and gratitude for his grandparents who assisted in his upbringing and education. Are we now to believe that he hated them all along? His father deserted the family when he was just two years old. He saw him once in his life to remember him when Barack, Sr. visited Hawaii and Barack was only 10 years old. He never laid eyes on the man again. So let us use a little logic here.
I have been a member of a black church since I was 12 years old. When I became a discerning adult, I heard things that I disagreed with and that I, quite frankly, detested. There is a tendency in some, not all, black churches to demean gays. And I have heard some hints at antisemitism in some, not all, black churches. I cannot express strongly enough the degree to which I reject, denounce, and abhor these sentiments and I have not hesitated to say so. Barack has spoken before black church congregations and spoken against the two sentiments I mentioned above. Note that he did not go to a gay pride event or to a Jewish event to do so. He did so IN the black churches he visited.
Rev. Wright has preached hundreds of thousands of minutes. As one young man said last night, it would be a shame to collapse his entire body of work down to two 30 second sound bites. And, yes, I found some of it to be over the top. But, quite frankly, certain aspects of it were undeniable. Also consider that the man is from another place and time. His experiences have not been Barack's.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 12:32 pm EDT
You are right! The problem is when the old political strategies are used, how does the new politician handle the attacks? Do nothing and your seen as a whimp. Fight back and you are now a part of the old politics. You say nothing, stay the course, but meanwhile you feel angry, how do you deal with this? Through the support in blogs like this. This is not an easy course we are on.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 1:05 pm EDT
Lady Di,
I agree with you. But I also know that WE THE PEOPLE can defeat this old ugly politics. Barack Obama has made me believe. By our words and by our deeds we must stand up and pronounce a resounding "NO, WE ARE AMERICANS FIRST! WE REFUSE TO LET YOU DRIVE WEDGES BETWEEN US. WE REFUSE TO ALLOW ANYONE TO DENIGRATE ANYONE ELSE BECAUSE OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF HIS/HER BIRTH, RELIGION, ETHNICITY, SEXUAL ORIENTATION, SOCIO-ECONOMIC STATUS."
I firmly believe we can do this and confound the cynics. We can soundly reject the old politics of fear and devision and I believe that we have demonstrated our clear intentions to do so by our actions in this historic movement.
So let us be strong of heart and of good cheer. Do not fall for these ploys from the past. See the Rev. Wright controversy for what it is and move on. I do not hate or resent Rev. Wright. I know he is a man of his times. Since the campaign began, Barack has said he does not agree with some of his pastors rhetoric. And until I am presented with evidence to the contrary, I accept Barack's statements.
YES WE CAN AND YES WE WILL!
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Lesa from Lebanon, TN
Mar 15th 2008 at 9:36 am EDT
why did my blog get removed from this website???????????????
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Mar 15th 2008 at 9:49 am EDT
It didn't. I just checked it. Are you done now?
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Ml from Gwynn Oak, MD
Mar 15th 2008 at 4:20 pm EDT
YES WE CAN "AND" YES WE WILL
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:28 pm EDT
As an American voter, and a Obama supporter. I would like to know why is this information has not been put before the voters? If you can't talk about and get it out in the news then please provide me with someone who can. This is a very important issue.
Hillary Defies Judge’s Mandate, That She Must Testify in LA COURT HOUSE!
PeterPaul Blog ^ | 2/22/08 | PeterPaul Blog
Posted on 02/22/2008 6:34:42 AM PST by OPS4
There was an extraordinary development at a hearing today in Los Angeles Superior Court in the Paul v Clinton et al civil fraud case against Bill and Hillary Clinton, prosecuted by Hillary’s largest donor Peter Paul. When Judge Munoz finally allowed Paul to commence discovery after a three year “appellate” hiatus, Hillary Clinton’s attorney declared that none of Hillary Clinton’s lawyers would accept a deposition subpoena on Hillary’s behalf.
Hillary will be dodging process servers while she is campaigning for President of the United States around the nation!! The sworn testimony Paul is entitled to take from Hillary as a former defendant and material witness that the Judge specifically stated he will not allow to be denied, is now being officially thwarted by Senator Hillary R Clinton!
Hillary has now made history again in her contempt for the Rule of Law. She has become the first US Senator and candidate for president of the United States on record to declare she will be effectively dodging process servers to avoid testifying truthfully about fraudulent actions that she has never personally denied in the sworn declaration she filed in the case! Link ABC 20/20 Shows Hillary Clinton is the “Liar” In Illegalities Exposed By Top Donor Peter Paul ABC 20/20 Corroborates Peter Paul Against Hillary ClintonSeven years ago Peter Paul began whistleblowing to the government and alerting the media of numerous illegalities committed by Hillary and Bill Clinton in order to win Hillary’s first election to public office. The multi-million dollar donor to Hillary’s Senate campaign that caused Hillary’s finance director to be indicted and tried in May, 2005, for hiding his contributions, and whose complaint to the FEC resulted in a finding that Hillary’s campaign broke the law resulting in the only FEC fine imposed against Hillary’s campaign, will begin the discovery process leading to a trial in Los Angeles later this year of the Clintons and others for destroying Paul’s public company.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 2:25 am EDT
Thank God! I was just about to log off...
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Mar 15th 2008 at 8:47 am EDT
you should contact the local headquarters. we always need supporters at our events. we especially need to show our support with a large number of people coming out today to support barack. now that the latest smear attack against obama has come up it is more important that we show america that we still stand tall and strong for barack. please go and show some love for barack. Yes We Can!
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BARBARA in Queens, NY
Mar 15th 2008 at 10:30 am EDT
thank you sherill for your comments as a african american my life experience is alot different from a great many people in the united states. in saying that what obama has experienced while growing up and watching people on the south side of chicago is alot different from someone living on the north side of chicago. the only thing that has kept the african americanh person sane and able to get up and face life and injustice each and every day has been our church and our faith in god. so someone can touch you spiritually that is the reason we choose the church that we belong to becomes someone made you feel good, welcomed and has given you hope for a brighteer tomorrow. that with god all things are possible. there are some things i find silly in my very own church and sometimes in church in general such as you must be dressed up to go to church does god really care what we wear to church? Does he care where you sit every sunday and no one should sit in your so called seat? I don't think so! The bottom line is as a pastor or preacher whatever your faith does he make me feel that through faith in the almighty i can make it another day can i leave church on sunday feeling good? If a pastor can do that for me i will go to his church. we must remember that the preacher is a man and that our faith in gods teachings are tested at times. let's not give up on barack because he believed in the good feelings he received from his church of twenty years a church that gave him a spiritual groundness. he has shown a love of people of all races. please vote for change and a rebirth in our great nation.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 2:26 am EDT
I wish I could be in Indiana tomorrow. I'm glad to know the campaign's not focusing all your energies on Pennsylvania. Everybody else needs to hear from you too. Especially Puerto Rico, with its 55 delegates!
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Cactus Wren from Tucson
Mar 15th 2008 at 2:26 am EDT
The last blog is intense...but it is how we all get through it...YES, WE CAN. How many times have I had a pastor embarrass me with their politics, but then it ain't heaven yet - the gospel is the point.
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joe ruwe
Mar 15th 2008 at 2:36 am EDT
woooaaah that last blog was frightening. what a jungle of trollish chaos! freakishly hyper and agitated...
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:27 am EDT
That too shall pass. We've always have trolls come and go. I remembered we used to have one in the early days named "Wayne" pestering us every single day like a zit that won't go away. Then he tried to be several different people pretending to be in agreement and Obama's supporters saw right thru him. He went away, and so will the trolls now. For all we know all these supposedly "new" trolls may come from one person.
Regardless, it won't last, they don't have the energy to keep up with the energy of real supporters. Once they find out that we're not easily swayed, and not as uninformed as they actually think, then they give up.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:30 am EDT (Updated Mar 15th 2008 at 3:56 pm EDT)
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:35 am EDT
To all the people who have never heard the word "troll" before today.
To all the people on this board who are not immersed in internet "culture".
To all the people who have never experienced a forum invasion.
DO NOT BE ALARMED!
The controversy may have been started by the media and Hillary's backers, but the trolling and negativity on this site has nothing to do with her or her supporters. This is probably a concerted effort by a few White Nationalist/Neo Nazi types, as this follows a typical pattern of behavior from them on the internet. Fortunately, many of them aren't the sharpest tools in the box and one of them left a comment under the name Tripple K.
Tripple K.
Think about it.
Anyway, they are mainly unemployed single white males with a lot of time on their hands. They are desperate to see this popular movement fail, as a black president represents a rejection (and denouncement heh) of everything they believe in. As a measure of how misguided they are, most of them are supporting Ron Paul.
They are trying to disrupt and demoralize this entire blog, however there are probably less than 10 of them. 10 people creating accounts and posting for a few hours can spew a lot of rubbish as you have seen. Anyway, I just wanted to congratulate you on a stellar performance seeing as many of you have never seen a sustained forum invasion before. And be understanding about the trolls because people have been trolling Neo Nazi websites about President Obama for months now. Thank you for a wonderful board, I'll get back to lurking moar.
/b/tards for 08ama
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Mar 15th 2008 at 4:52 am EDT
Im not sure sure its "all" neo-Nazis" though doubtless some of it is.
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Jeri, from Denver CO.
Mar 15th 2008 at 10:26 am EDT
This is not helpful.
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Vanessa in California
Mar 15th 2008 at 2:29 am EDT
Barack, I got your back... Keep being yourself and keep doing what your doing. I believe in you no matter what the cynics say!
One Love... OBAMA 4 Prez!!!! YES WE CAN!!!!!
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Mar 15th 2008 at 2:30 am EDT
Thank you Thank you Thank you! This is really a smart campaign to know that we are now ready to focus on not just one at a time, but many and to know that all of our eggs are not in just one basket. I know that many of my neighboring North Carolinians are waiting for us also. From PA to Indiana to NC.. "we are the ones that we have been waiting for."
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Ian from Stevenson Ranch, CA
Mar 15th 2008 at 12:53 pm EDT
Sorry for spam..
Can someone please make this viral. I am sicking of watching MSM with this on the tip of my tongue, yet NO-ONE addresses it.
I am sick of Hillary spin.
RONALD REAGAN LOST PENNSYLVANIA IN THE PRMARIES BUT WON IN THE GENERAL ELECTION.
IN 2000 AL GORE WON NEW HAMPSHIRE IN THE PRIMARIES, BUT LOST IT TO G.W. BUSH. THE KICKER IS THAT BUSH LOST N.H. MISERABLY IN HIS PRIMARY CONTEST.
Ted Kennedy beat Jimmy Carter in the 1980 Pennsylvania primary, but it was Carter who won the nomination.
Secondly, Pennsylvania has not played a leading role in choosing a nominee in a quarter-century. Since 1984 the primaries were already wrapped up by time the dems got to Pennsylvania.
Finally, for Obama, potential swing states like Virginia and Colorado (or others) would essentially undo the damage of a possible Pennsylvania defeat in the GE.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 2:30 am EDT
Demand the media stop spreading the FOX virus
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Sign Up now, so we can stop the FOX smears. Our collective voices will be heard. Finally, a way to fight back for Sen. Obama.
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Columbia SC NPC
Mar 15th 2008 at 2:35 am EDT
Hey HS from Seattle, we say let them go and dig dig dig. We are pledging to refocus for change. Thats what we started with and will end with in January '09 at the inauguration. Ask everybody to get on board. We are refocusing to change, phonebanking, texting, emailing and donating.
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Barbara
Mar 15th 2008 at 5:38 am EDT
I just went to Fox News and posted a pro-Obama comment about Obama's interview on Fox regarding Rev. Wright. It seems to me that Obama supporters should POST ON FOX every chance we get. We need to begin to raise consciousness and overcome the ignorance and intolerance by presenting a clear-headed, respectful viewpoint.
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CA
Mar 15th 2008 at 6:38 am EDT
Great idea.
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Linda H
Mar 15th 2008 at 6:46 am EDT
The thing is we should reframe from going to the fox news site to post anything. We should not do any surveys or polls. Why? You are only increasing their ratings. We should not repeat any fox news crap on this site. We should not turn the TV to fox news. We only want to go forward with positive news and feedback. Barack have responded, now le us go forward with our campaign. Fox news is a republican station that is trying to do everything to demolish Barack. The republicans would rather run against HRC. We should be aware that this campaign is only starting to get ugly. It is good that Barack responded. HRC can't even begin to undo her scandals. The republicans will have a field day will they start to attack her. Barack won't go their, but the republicans will.
BAND FOX NEWS. Let’s stay focus on our campaign. BARACK ‘08
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Jacqueline from Stockbridge, GA
Mar 15th 2008 at 7:50 am EDT
I agree that we should boycott Fox News our voices really can change things. If we want this madness to stop the American public has to make it stop.
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Carmen Maria
Mar 15th 2008 at 8:53 am EDT
I agree, let's BOYCOTT fox news, and let's begin by not purchasing the products they advertise! We the People, can make this happen. YES WE CAN!!!
Fired Up … Ready To Go!!!
OBAMA 2008
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Mar 15th 2008 at 5:35 am EDT
I signed it.
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Jess from Fort Wayne, Indiana
Mar 15th 2008 at 8:27 am EDT
Just signed it. Thanks for posting the link.
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Laura in Tallahassee, FL
Mar 15th 2008 at 10:51 am EDT
Thanks for the link!
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Mar 15th 2008 at 2:31 am EDT
Everyone be sure to call and donate over the next few weeks. Commit to one hour (that's all, unless you feel like more) of calling a week, and then donate a dollar for every voter you call. LET'S MAKE THIS HAPPEN! GROW THE MOVEMENT! CALL AND DONATE!
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Columbia SC NPC
Mar 15th 2008 at 2:43 am EDT
Been posting that same message since about 10 pm. No time for other focus.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 10:23 am EDT
Can you help us, oversea Americans, whose credit cards have foreign Zip Code to donate??
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Barbara"Hussein-fistbump" BaRock-O-Biden
Mar 15th 2008 at 2:32 am EDT
man oh man, trolls everywhere in the other blog. I'm glad we have a new one.
Please lets keep this one positive.
The world is watching.
Obama Will Win the election.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 2:38 am EDT
Big thanks to Joe Rospars for starting a new blog thread! wew
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Mar 15th 2008 at 2:38 am EDT
I'll bet you that President will be fired up Tomorrow,after all of this.
This is why we need him in office so badly.
lets BA Rock the White House, Obamanites.
youtude has a song on it I listen to every morning to get me started. Its called,"fired up and ready to go" with a white man and a black woman leading a choir of young people in the song. It is a great song.
Check it out.
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Couldn't be happier with my new President!
Mar 15th 2008 at 2:33 am EDT
I hope Barack really goes over well with the people of Indiana tomorrow, and that he is deeply able to connect with people about the issues that are important to them. I think it's a great opportunity for discussion about the economy, jobs and health care.
It's time to get back on track again. I'm so proud and impressed with the way he has handled himself, with all of the debacles the past few days. He just seems so strong and Presidential, no matter what is thrown at him. Barack has managed to even further convince me, that he's going to be one of, if not the best President this country has ever seen. I really look forward to Barack Obama receiving the Democratic nomination, and moving on from there, against John McCain. It's going to be a challenging, but exciting several months ahead.
OBAMA 2008 YES WE CAN!!
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Mar 15th 2008 at 2:47 am EDT
Hey,
I do not see Indiana on the schedule for the 15th anymore? I hope that's and oversite or the blog is being refreshed or something like that.
Yes We Can!!!!! O'Bama 08'
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Sue, OH
Mar 15th 2008 at 4:50 am EDT
I agree it is great news that he will out in the public eye tomorrow in Indiana. This is his opportunity to get the campaign back to the issues. Address the situation in Pakistan. What is President Bush doing about it? Address the threats on Prince Harry. Britian has been one of our greatest allies and someone in this country needs to stand up and show our support for the Royal Family as they have so loyally to the United States of America. We need to address the economy, which includes healthcare, gas prices, the mortgage fiasco which coincidentally some benefitted greatly from. We need to discuss these issues and get the focus back on the issues.
Go on the offensive against George W Bush's threat to veto the surveillance bill. Why is it so important to legal immunity?? What is he trying to hide?? No need for immunity unless a law has been broken. Can we have some sunshine on this issue?? And why isn't GWB not demanding the telecommunications cooperation in regards to wiretapping and surveillance?? Why isn't GWB asking the people of the telecommunications companies to show their Patriotism and continue to cooperate with the government in our efforts to combat terror. GWB has the audacity to ask us the American people to sacrifice our lives and those of our children for our country to promote democracy throughout the world and combat terror. Are the ownes of these telecommunication companies not Americans? or have they bought themselves a sit in the stands to watch the circus. It is time we tell our president that it is time for him to step up to the plate and begin to practice what he preaches. GWB's family's wealth is from OIL, yet he has the gull to tell us that he does not know tht gas is $4 at the pump. Talk about being out of touch. Are we to believe this?? Are his finances so well off he doesn't even look at his own portfolio?? OIL record high $110 barrell. Coincidence. Smoke screens to cover the corruption once again.
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Debra from Fishers, IN
Mar 15th 2008 at 8:21 am EDT
I live near Indianapolis; Obama is going to be at Plainfield IN (just outside Indianapolis) early this afternoon. It's a smaller venue for this,a Town Hall meeting of 2,000 in a high school gymnasium~the 2,000 lucky people who were able to get tickets (unfortunately I was not so lucky this time, but he'll be back~our primary isn't until May 6th). It will be televised live locally, and I'll be watching. Republican Indiana is getting ready for Change. Yes We Can!
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Alice from Indian Trail, NC
Mar 15th 2008 at 2:55 am EDT
Obama is going to be off the chain on tomorrow. I hope he holds his head up and give his speech like he did at the convention to get everyone fired up and take the focus from Clinton campaign and put it back on the Obama camp where it belongs. Let's all pray that he will be strong and anointed to give his speech with power on tomorrow.
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Ian from Stevenson Ranch, CA
Mar 15th 2008 at 12:54 pm EDT
Sorry for spam..
Can someone please make this viral. I am sicking of watching MSM with this on the tip of my tongue, yet NO-ONE addresses it.
I am sick of Hillary spin.
RONALD REAGAN LOST PENNSYLVANIA IN THE PRMARIES BUT WON IN THE GENERAL ELECTION.
IN 2000 AL GORE WON NEW HAMPSHIRE IN THE PRIMARIES, BUT LOST IT TO G.W. BUSH. THE KICKER IS THAT BUSH LOST N.H. MISERABLY IN HIS PRIMARY CONTEST.
Ted Kennedy beat Jimmy Carter in the 1980 Pennsylvania primary, but it was Carter who won the nomination.
Secondly, Pennsylvania has not played a leading role in choosing a nominee in a quarter-century. Since 1984 the primaries were already wrapped up by time the dems got to Pennsylvania.
Finally, for Obama, potential swing states like Virginia and Colorado (or others) would essentially undo the damage of a possible Pennsylvania defeat in the GE.
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Michele
Mar 15th 2008 at 4:09 am EDT
No worries; Barack will shine tomorrow.
Indiana will love him.
Every state he campaigns in, loves him. Destiny is calling him; and everyone can see it.
Now, I'm in New Zealand, where it's only 9:07--what ya'll doing up so late?
OBAMA '08
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Abomanite from brooklyn
Mar 15th 2008 at 9:47 am EDT
He is a believer and knows how to draw on their strength of jesus. But we must continue to pray for him and his family and all the supporters of themovement on a daily basis.
I am a nurse and when ever I am at work I always ask everyone to join in a prayer for him.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 2:33 am EDT
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Daily Reminder of Essential Obama Videos, For Newcomers & Undecideds
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Barack's 2002 speech opposing the war, re-created by supporters.
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Barack Obama opposing the war in 2002, 2003, 2004... it was more than just a speech.
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"An American Dream," the story of college student Josh Stroman who pulled his life together after jail, and who was inspired by Barack Obama to get socially involved.
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And me touting my own video, "who was right?"
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Participate in a "good" Obama viral email project over at dKos!
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Mar 15th 2008 at 2:33 am EDT
Obama vs McCain
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Clinton vs McCain
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Mar 15th 2008 at 2:34 am EDT
hey yall. last night i made this image of Barack. Help me share it on digg.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 4:50 am EDT
thank you, good work. Dugg & saved. This will make my desktop dreamy...LOL
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Mar 15th 2008 at 2:35 am EDT
Guys,
We all know Barack is human and is not perfect by any means (as all humans).
But one thing we know. His opponents have spent over a year now scrubbing his record looking for any dirt they could find to bring him down with and all they have to show for it is kindergarten papers and baseless attempts to use things that people he has known have said in the past. Who among us in the world has kept strict associations with people who always said the right thing in every circumstance during their entire lives? NOBODY!
Seriously! These silly attacks should make us all feel so much more secure in the character of the man that we support so much because they clearly illustrate the fact that there isn't really any dirt out there to be found.
That doesn't mean that we do not have to fight back, but it does mean we are fighting the good fight.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 2:38 am EDT
Who cares about attacks, we are refocusing on change. They can DIG DIG DIG, be negative; however, we are refocusing to donating, phonebanking, emailing, texting, for change because we want "change." Are you onboard?
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Michael Hussein James
Mar 15th 2008 at 2:36 am EDT
Did anyone catch Donna Brazile on CNN recently?
There were some comments on dailykos having to do with Ms. Brazile. The report was that, while on CNN, she said words to the effect that the Democrats will know who their nominee will be within two weeks, and then the party will be one happy family.
It was also interesting to see someone else post a comment later in the dkos thread with very similar sentiments attributed to some sort of Democratic offical who was on a radio program in Baltimore on Wednesday.
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I'm not saying it's true, just wondering if anyone saw the CNN appearance in question. I tried googling a bit, but didn't find anything relavent.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 2:39 am EDT
Check this out.This is a video called I'm voting for Obama and will be sent to Obama and the DNC.Can you please comment on it so we can double it up as a 'President Obama only' petition to go to the DNC.This will be a bigger video than the Yes We Can video because it was created by Obama supporters.Thanks
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Columbia SC NPC
Mar 15th 2008 at 2:42 am EDT
Thanks Michael.. However, we are refocusing and refueling for donating, phonebanking, emailing, and texting. We don't have a much time before the other states are voting.. Let's solicit their help with with a positive message.
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Michael Hussein James
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:01 am EDT
Seriously, I thought I was being positive.
Hard to get much more positive than saying that Senator Obama might wrap up the nomination in approximately two weeks! Much better to talk about that than most of the last blog IMHO, but I applaud your focus on remaining positive.
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Leila
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:19 am EDT
Thanks for the great news, Michael!
Kinda hard to believe with HRC still around, but we shall see.
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yesterday gone
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:23 am EDT
i appreciated the heads up, michael.
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Karen from Berkeley, CA
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:02 am EDT
I saw the comment on Kos too but did not see the Brazile interview. Could be some MAJOR behind-the-scenes discussions are going on. Wasn't Brazile Al Gore's campaign manager in 2000? Maybe Gore is getting ready to do something. Remember that Teddy Kennedy came out for Obama after he couldn't take the Clinton tactics anymore. Maybe the party finally realizes that its time to "get real" with HRC.
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joe ruwe
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:15 am EDT
I sure hope so.
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Michael Hussein James
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:22 am EDT
Donna Brazile was the campaign manager in 2000.
The Clint-rovian tactics we are seeing are certainly not new. Remember Susan Klopfer from Iowa? The HQ blog had that video of her taking her Hillary yard sign down and replacing it with an Obama yard sign and her main reason for doing it was HRC's campaigning.
I have noticed a trend in which certain Clinton supporters post blogs or, in whatever format, announc, essentially, the same thing, i.e. "I used to be a strong HRC supporter, but I just can't stomach her tactics anymore..." or some variation.
For example, Senator Kennedy, as you pointed out, likely felt that way and this post from Seth Grahame-Smith also fits the bill:
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I don't have an exhaustive list, but I have seen Mr. Grahame-Smith's sentiments expressed numerous times in different places.
Then, the other night on Countdown, Keith Olbermann took Hillary and her advisors to task for the recent Ferraro comments via a "Special Comment."
Surely, that could have been a "straw that broke the camel's back" type of moment because, despite what anyone may have thought while watching Keith's Special Comment about Hillary, he is not an Obama partisan. In fact, I recall early in the campaign thinking he was most likely a Clinton supporter based on what I was seeing in his opinions expressed during his show and he specifically said before launching into his rant that he was not endorsing Obama.
Perhaps all of the comments, calls, e-mails and letters to the DNC and superdelegates, along with Olbermann's recent show might have created a tipping point. I know I have responded to the DNC's fundraising requests for money to fight McCain by saying that they won't be getting any money from me until Obama locks up the nomination. I know I'm not the only one too.
Oh well, we'll find out soon enough, but the theory just seems so plausible it's hard for me to not think about it!
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Leila
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:25 am EDT
Well, if we heard the rumor, we KNOW HRC did, too.
So, let's see. Last time we heard the rumor about the 50 superdelegates, we know what happened.
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joe ruwe
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:41 am EDT
exactly.
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Michael Hussein James
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:47 am EDT
I know, but I don't think Brokaw would have reported it if it wasn't true at the time. I suspect the loss of the TX primary and OH not being close enough might have caused that group of 50 to stay on the sidelines a bit longer.
However, three things have changed since then:
(1) There is a good case to be made that, now that there is no longer a competitive Republican race, that a significant number of GOP voters are voting for Hillary to extend or derail the Democratic nominating process:
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(2) Keith Olbermann really let HRC have it the other night. If even he is publicly saying that HRC is running a Republican campaign, you know that a lot of other people are saying it privately.
(3) Bill Foster won Dennis Hastert's old seat, in part because of Obama's endorsement and campaign support. Coattails are very important to a lot of races and most candidates in swing areas/states would much rather have Obama on the top of the ticket than the other candidate. Foster's victory might have been very persuasive to these people.
Can you tell that I really, really, really want this "over in two weeks" thing to be true? :-)
Please, someone. Make her go away.
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Sano
Mar 15th 2008 at 6:46 am EDT
Oh, and the news finally came out that Obama, in fact, WON the majority of Texas' delegates! This was sort of slid into the news sandwhich yesterday but is significant. Why wouldn't this unfreeze all those frozen superdelegates?
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Mar 15th 2008 at 10:17 am EDT
And let's remember that the day that Bill Foster took office he cast the deciding vote for ethics legislation. So if you want to talk about ready on day one, BIG impact on day ONE.
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Gerry Filippatos
Mar 15th 2008 at 9:26 am EDT
Donna Brazil's comments have been increasingly more pro-Barack ... she gave a very supportive comment about the Dr. Wright story on CNN as it "broke" yesterday. Brazil is certainly a harbinger for Gore. I think that Gore will step in pre-convention as long as we keep our pledged delegate lead over 100, maintain the popular vote lead, and don't get blown out in Pennsylvania (especially with white voters -- we must get at least 25% of the white vote there). Once Gore steps in ... it's over ... we (and justice) prevail. It would be kind of fitting that Gore have a decisive role in picking the next president given what happened in 2000.
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Louie from New York
Mar 15th 2008 at 11:07 am EDT
Gore had problems with the Clintons back then when he was VP. Didn't he?
I heard they didn't get along or something?
Things I "HOPE" could happen soon:
1) Richardson endorsement
2) Edwards endorsement
3) Biden endorsement
3) Gore endorsement (Big Bonus)
4) Jimmy Carter endorsement
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Laura in Tallahassee, FL
Mar 15th 2008 at 11:26 am EDT
I hope to God that Gore has wanted to support Obama for some time now. I hope to God that Gore supports Obama and has been holding out until some crap like the news yesterday has hit the fan.
Before Pennsylvania and Indiana this campaign will need Gore support, as well as the open support of many more SDs.
Do the right thing, Gore.
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frstan
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:42 am EDT
that was "a few weeks" not "two weeks"
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Mar 15th 2008 at 5:45 am EDT
From the transcript of Friday's Situation Room on CNN (
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BLITZER: They got 40 percent. I think she got about 60 percent. She and Dennis Kucinich were the only names on the ballot, though, in Michigan. So, it wasn't exactly fair, by all accounts.
If Florida and Michigan, by the way, do get to redo, and they can be full participants at the convention in Denver, the magic number to win the Democratic nomination goes from 2,025 without those two states the 2,208 with those two states. We will see if Florida and Michigan can get their act together.
(CROSSTALK)
GALEN: I think you guys have done a great job so far. Just keep it up.
(LAUGHTER)
BRAZILE: And I think, at this rate, we will have a Democratic nominee before June. And, hopefully, the party will come together before August.
GALEN: So, you think the whole June 3 thing is just going to be a waste of that private money?
BRAZILE: Well, I'm hoping that, in the next few weeks, the Democrats will ultimately make a decision and we will have -- start having some peace within the family.
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That's the exact quote - take it with a grain of salt.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 5:47 am EDT
Sigh ... the link didn't come through properly:
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Though, I pretty much posted everything you needed to read on it.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 6:34 am EDT
Wow, that would be awesome. But I'm not gonna get my hopes up right now.
Although, with the Bill Richardson (at UCLA) clip and Pelosi saying that the supers will go with the pledged delegates and not the popular vote and Brazille saying similiar things and this tonight, it does kinda sound like the ground is being softened for the supers to put an end to this.
Letting it go past Penn where HRC will most likely win is a mistake and will only drag it out to a no-win-in-nov situation.
Come on supers show your leadership!!!
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Mar 15th 2008 at 2:40 am EDT
On the lighter side after a long day....
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Vanessa in California
Mar 15th 2008 at 2:46 am EDT
Thanks 4 sharing... Love the pics... Love the man and what he represents... Love the beautiful array of people who support him ;o)
One Love to the Obama Family!!! WE ARE THE ONES WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR!!!! OBAMA 4 PREZ!!!!
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:03 am EDT
Especially the last one. I need hair cut! The beauty of it, is that it is real! Which is why I will always continue to support this campaign!
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Norwegian for Obama
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:27 am EDT
I loved the first one. He has his grandaddy's ears, it appears :)
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Mar 15th 2008 at 2:44 am EDT
From a recent Washington Post article, "Obama has also accepted an invitation to participate in a debate hosted by CBS News in North Carolina on April 19, in advance of that state's May 6 Democratic primary. Clinton has not said whether she will participate in that one."
From my perspective, "Hopefully Clinton will have dropped out before then." If it's not her bashing him, it's FOX or some other "water carrier" or so-called news organization smearing him or someone else associated with him. Why can't people just be judged on their own merit? His is so obvious, it's scaring the right wing.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 2:45 am EDT
I hope the media thirst for scandals will die soon.. this is getting rediculous, it is as if they are running out of ideas.. now they have to see whom did he shake hand with, what church was Obama in (no more Muslim thing) and what was said in those events. They keep forgetting that Barack could have never accepted or endorsed those comments anyways, yet they are inflamming this out for the rating.
Guilt by association is noting new in this country. One and a half billion muslims were labeled terrorists or following a terror religion because of the actions of 19 actual terrorists and those who supported them.
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Redsoxnation in Northern Virgina
Mar 15th 2008 at 2:51 am EDT
They are licking their chops with this one and looking for the next.
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Barbara"Hussein-fistbump" BaRock-O-Biden
Mar 15th 2008 at 2:54 am EDT
I wonder how they feel as they walk quietly through america with all this going on around them. They are Americans to.
God Bless America,
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joe ruwe
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:09 am EDT
the media thirst for this sh!t will never be quenched...
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:22 am EDT
Truly: They stir up something. They don't really care what it is. Will they ever go back to reporting actual news instead of creating it? Doubt it, cause it is much easier this way. All they need is something controversial to expose us to their paid ads.
However, they will keep coming back to our faithfulness and openness if it is truly remarkable. I believe it will be.
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MJ
Mar 15th 2008 at 5:26 am EDT
unfortunately I agree. I bet they are talking to churchgoers etc. tyring to nail him.
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CA
Mar 15th 2008 at 6:54 am EDT
I know this sounds crazy but if this is the worst they can find on Obama then this is great. They have been spending a ton of money and time to dig up dirt on BO and this is what they come up with? Anyone with half a brain knows that noone agrees with everything their pastor says. If this was truly a pattern with the pastor Barack would have left the church. He is not stupid. Keep the faith and I think this will give us the opportunity to have some good conversations with the folks of PA.
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Ehuzu Hussein - We Built It Up! Thanks to All - Obama/Biden: The Change We Need to Keep the American Promise Alive
Mar 15th 2008 at 2:51 am EDT
Senator Obama is still winning the democratic primary race: by states, by votes and most importantly by the number of pledged delegates.
Let's work hard for the next months to enjoy a sweet victory.
YES WE CAN!
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Mar 15th 2008 at 2:52 am EDT
Let's stay focused on the economy. Senator Obama have successfully answered another attempt to divert him from his mission. Won't happen. YES WE CAN!
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James Brown.....Proudly Voted For President Obama !
Mar 15th 2008 at 2:52 am EDT
I have always been a strong supporter of Barack Obama , and i believe in this man of Integrity , Honor , Strength and Wisdom.
We are the change we have been waiting for.
We are Barack Obama.
Gods gift to us is this Campaign , and our Gift to God is what we do with it.
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yesterday gone
Mar 15th 2008 at 2:53 am EDT
another silver lining could be that the media storm could whip up new interest in barack. more people than ever could tune in to listen to barack in upcoming events (some maybe for the first time) to see what all the fuss is about.
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Barbara"Hussein-fistbump" BaRock-O-Biden
Mar 15th 2008 at 2:57 am EDT
I agree with that. A blessing we did not see coming.
Hold on Obamanites. Are Change is coming.
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Barbara"Hussein-fistbump" BaRock-O-Biden
Mar 15th 2008 at 2:57 am EDT
I mean OUR change is coming
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Mar 15th 2008 at 2:59 am EDT
Am I correct in my assumption that Barack chose to throw that extra Rezko stuff in tonight to mix it up with the Rev. Wright stuff? To get it all out and over at once?
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:25 am EDT
I love his forthrightness...realizing even as he does it that SOMEONE will try to use it against him now or later.
I think he knows it is best to be clear about ANY seeming impropriety in its entirety. If HE says it, it almost ceases to be news.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 4:14 am EDT
I've been saying for two weeks he needs to get out front of the Rezko thing and put it ALL out in the open, put it to rest and claim the high ground at the same time. Glad to see he did it today. My guess is he'd been planning it for a while and it just happened to coincide with the Wright stink-bombs. Either way, good news that it's out there. Nothing to hide. Now, when can we see what's behind Door Number Two?
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Mar 15th 2008 at 6:58 am EDT
Yes, it is brilliant. The campaign was actullay in Chicago talking with the Chicago Tribune to further discuss and clarify all aspects of BO's relationship with Rezko. Total transperacy! The exact opposite of HRC.
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u of u for obama
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:31 am EDT
You are clearly right, and make no mistake Barack Obama will rock it. Confident 100%, he knows what it is all about and a new dialog about race, religion will be open and a lot of wound will be healed.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 2:54 am EDT
I am writing to express my deep admiration and respect for Senator Obama.
His swift, eloquent and forceful written response to the Jeremiah Wright issue; his courage in promptly appearing on MSNBC, CNN and even the hostile environs of FOX, and now his excellent video in which he denounces Rev. Wright's incendiary statements and convincingly reaffirms his own strong principles of patriotism and faith, all demonstrate the power of his mind, character and demeanor under pressure.
Surely this incident must cause Senator Obama personal pain; as he explains, Rev. Wright was the minister who counseled him spiritually, officiated at his marriage to Michelle and baptized their daughters. Yet he has the integrity and fortitude to both condemn the statements in question and remind us that this retired pastor is of another, older generation and sometimes speaks from the suffering and anger of that generation as well as from the profound hope that made that suffering bearable. With extraordinary wisdom, Senator Obama suggests that we treat this as an opportunity to learn -- to face bravely the divisions and suspicions that still plague our great country. We are advancing because so many people of all ethnicities and faiths are standing up, rejecting hatred as a way of life, conquering their fear and making the future happen.
"Guilt by association" cannot be allowed a foothold in our public or private discourse, or every single one of us will be condemned. Think of all our past and present associates, employers, relatives, friends -- the web of close and casual connections each of us has is endless. By what mad logic would it be claimed that they necessarily speak for us, that we share all their values and beliefs? And if the new rule is that congregations should stampede if they've ever heard foolish words from the pulpit, every house of worship in the country will stand empty and echoing.
Barack Obama is demonstrating, today and every day, the courage, character and judgment I want in my President.
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yesterday gone
Mar 15th 2008 at 2:54 am EDT
joe made a funny.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:21 am EDT
Sen Obama needs to come out strongly against the tone the campaign has assumed in the past weeks and inform the American people that it is time for hillary clinton to drop out of the race. He is the front runner; therefor he cannot drop out. But the continual presence of Hillary Clinton in the campaign is not good for the Democratic Party. He should ask her to step down immmediately so we can focus on McCain
1. Hillary has gone back on her word regarding both the Fl and MI primary agreement and is now seeking to go against her commitment to ensure these delegates are seated. This is in direct violaction of the DNC rule which clearly outlined these elections would NOT count towards the nomination.
2. Hillary Clinton's winnings in TX, Oh, and her winning of the largest section of the white vote in MI is directly attributable to the large number of Republicans who are crossing county lines in an atempt to instigate a win over her by John McCain. Rove and Mehlan are now working for McCain. They are already engaging in 'questionable' campaign antics which only serve to further divide the Dem. Party.
3. How many Americans are aware that we are about to reach 4000 dead in Iraq, that Zimbabwe is about to conduct eletions to overthrow a dictator and that the UN announced it will meet its MDS to signficiantly decrease infant mortality? How many now exactly how many American homes have already faced disclosure, with hundreds of thousand pending, the dollar is at an all time low, that the military head of ops in the Middle East was fired this week because he would not support a war againat Iran?
These are issues ALL Americans should be familiar with, should be well versed in, looking for leadership in.
Obama should not have to do this alone. But he should demand a showing of support for his candidacy. He should lay his credentials on the table against Hillary's and ask for her to tell AMerican her plan on how she can win.Her candidacy means further and further alliances between MSM and the Rove Machinery. Hillary must know she can't beat McCain. (if she doesn't she's the only one) and if she plans to run this type of campaign against MCcain, we don't want it.
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OBAMA/BAYH 08!
Mar 15th 2008 at 2:55 am EDT
Well, I wish him luck. He's going to need a lot of it, since Evan Bayh has endorsed Hillary Clinton. He's one popular guy in Indiana. Name another Democrat that has been elected five time, in three different offices.
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JFyfe
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:00 am EDT
How recently did this endorsement take place?
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Michael Hussein James
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:04 am EDT
Evan Bayh's endorsement is old news.
I don't recall exactly when, but it was a long time ago that it came out.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:01 am EDT
Barack doesnt need luck,he has God and US.
BaRock the Vote !!
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Mar 15th 2008 at 2:57 am EDT
Pass the word!
WE support Sen O'bama & Family 100%
We need a leader we can trust-Amen!!! Our faith and trust in you have not been shaken...
We are standing with you and your family all the way….You told us it would not be easy….. Please do not worry for this will make us strong……
God will stand with you and your family and so will we!!!!! We are proud to stand with you and your family with our heads held up and greeting our brothers and sisters all the way....
Now we will start back making calls again, again and again!!!
You go out and shake some hands and continue to get the crowds excited about the change coming to Washington.
Yes We Can.... The Cheeks family in Ga -O'BAMA 08"
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Hear Me Speak
Mar 15th 2008 at 2:59 am EDT
I'M A CHRISTIAN I BELIEVE IN JESUS AND I BELIEVE HE WILL GIVE OBAMA A CHANCE TO PROVE HIMSELF....GOD WILL JUDGE NOT A BLOGGER, NOR MAN
THE WORLD WILL ALWAYS HAVE HATEFUL PEOPLE LIKE THE ONES I HAVE SEEN ON THIS BLOG..FOXNEWS IS A HATEFUL NEW CHANNEL..APPEALING ONLY TO REPUBLICAN AND MOSTLY WHITE PEOPLE..IT IS CLEAR WHAT'S GOING ON..CLEAR AS I READ THESE BLOGS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE SO UNAWARE OF THE WORLD..ANYONE WHO THINKS OBAMA IS DONE OR OVER WILL BE SAD TOMORROW TO FIND OUT THIS STORY WILL NOT STOP HIM HE WILL SEE TOMORROW AND THE NEXT DAY AND THE NEXT DAY.. HE WILL BE THE FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICAN..
I’LL LEAVE FOXNEWS WITH THIS
YOUR NOT GOING TO STOP OBAMA..TO MANY PASTOR WHO SUPPORTED REPUBLICAN LIKE JOHN MCCAIN ARE JUST AS BAD..I DON’T KNOW IF THE PASTOR WORDS WERE BAD THEY WERE FROM A BLACK MAN POINT OF VIEW
I MEAN A BLACK POINT OF VIEW IS DIFFERENT TO SOME PEOPLE WHO DO NOT UNDERSTAND..
BUT OBAMA HAS HIS OWN MIND HIS OWN HEART..HE HAS BEEN THE MOST RESPECTFUL CANDIDATE IN THIS RACE.. HE DIDN’T ATTACK HILLARY UNTIL SHE ATTACK HIM
HE HAS TRIED TO PUT RACE ABOVE ALL OF THIS BUT FOXNEWS WANTS TO LYNCH HIM…
WANTS TO STOP HIS CHANCES OF BECOMING THE FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN PRESIDENT..FOXNEWS IS KNOWN FOR THEIR LOVE FOR REPUBLICAN SO WHY I’M BLOGGING ON THEIR WEBSITE BECAUSE I WANT THEM TO KNOW
OBAMA HAS SOMEONE WHO SUPPORTS HIM FOR HIS QUALIFICATIONS..HE IS SOMETHING DIFFERENT SOMETHING THIS COUNTRY NEEDS AND I’M NOT GOING TO SIT BACK WHY MR.. HANNITY THE JUDGER JUDGES HIM FOR THINGS REPUBLICAN PASTOR HAVE DONE..
THAT PASTOR IS NOT OBAMA..HE HAS BEEN ABOVE THE FRAY AND I WILL SUPPORT HIM THROUGH ALL OF THIS…
SO SAY WHAT YOU WANT…
OBAMA WILL OVERCOME THIS LYNCHING..HE WILL BECOME OUR COUNTRY FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN PRESIDENT
OBAMA STAND UP ….DON’T LET THEM TEAR YOU DOWN….YOU ARE OBAMA YOU ARE NOT YOUR PASTOR..
OBAMA STAND UP…AND FIGHT
STAND UP AND FIGHT THESE FOXNEWS REPUBLICAN LOVERS….WANT TO STOP A BLACK MAN FROM PRESIDENT…GOD JUDGER FOLKS
STAND UP …STAND UP …STAND UP …
AND FIGHT..OBAMA FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT…
FIGHT AGAINST THE ONES WHO WANT TO DESTROY YOU...DESTROY THE HOPE OF AMERICANS..
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:04 am EDT
Nice post!
Just one thing, can we hear you next time without the caps? (We're just coming down from all of the *yelling* on the last blog.)
:0)
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yesterday gone
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:27 am EDT
like barack says, we are one people.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 6:51 am EDT
Brother I agree with you. We Blacks have different points of view on how we have suffered in America,so this Pastor has his. For them to use it to smear Obama is racism. Obama has always made it clear how he stands on issues like this. As a BLACK person I may not agree with his position on this,but this I know-that God has sent Obama to save America and unite all of us to save America,so we take it like that and continue PRAYING FOR OBAMA AND OPRAH'S SAFETY ON THE ROAD TO THE PRESIDENCY!Let them print any nonesense to try and stop our man Obama,but all this will fail! America needs Obama for President and I trust GOD will do it!
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Mar 15th 2008 at 9:45 am EDT
I want to respond to those are suggesting that there are groups of "white" people who are smearing. It is only a particular group of white people. We are in danger of breeding race issues, if we do this. I am a white person, who was raised by parents who were actively involved in the 60's. My mother was crying last night because there is so much so many fought and struggled for to get beyond this. Including whites. I was raised to judge people on who they were not to accept or denounce anyone on their skin color, religion, etc.. That it was okay to ask questions, form a good judgement and base my decision on who that person was on those merits. This does not mean I should have to accept all African Americans or be considered a racist, nor shoudl it mean I accept all caucasions becuase they are of my same ethnic background. While I do not pretend to understand or have any idea what its like to be African American in our society, I do know what its like to be a human being. I am now the mother of 3 children. At one point we moved from an urban area to a small town. My son's fought through judegement merely coming from an area that was diverse. My sons were taught that not speaking up was the same as condoning behavior which led to my son being ostracized by his football team for demanindg that racial slurs not be tolerated. Eventually by his senior year, he created group that was anti-war and small groups to deal with fears about racial differences. This is was in an area that was 70% republican. I am proud of him for not being more concerned with popularity over doing what is right. When you are a white person who is not racist, you are attacked as well. We are accused, Tucker just did it agian the other night, saying its "Liberal guilt". I am not guilty by association becuase I am caucasion. We, for generations, have a history of fighting oppression for ALL people. I just think its dangerous if we start to allow race to divide us in any way. To me things are better presented when we remember what we all have in common. No-one of any race should have to surpress who they are.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 2:49 pm EDT
Well stated Brandi. These are sentiments we should all be able to agree on, regardless of our heritage.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 2:59 am EDT
Today, we hit over 1,600,000 donors.
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(Note, the runner updates automatically once the final 3 digits are 376)
This movement to rid D.C. of corruption and to foster a brand new mindset of unity in America is getting stronger and stronger.
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Amy
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:09 am EDT
wait I'm confused, on the link that I have it says 611,000 (roughly)
and on yours it says 607,000 (roughly)
but the time and date are the same.
hmmm.
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Jeremy Sun
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:12 am EDT
Not sure. Maybe there's glitch? That's why I've saying we should get that runner back on the homepage. Still no response yet, hope they'll put that up again soon. Either way, we have over 1,600,000 donors and millions of other supporters, so that's good enough.
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Amy
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:14 am EDT
yeah must be a glitch.
I'd love to have that back up on the homepage!
It's so inspiring.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:31 am EDT
It's not a glitch per se, it's how the software was set up before they cooked up the unique donors counter. There are multiple (sets of?) machines handling all of this site's traffic and each server keeps track of the donations made on it. At some regular interval, they are reconciled. So most of the time, they'll have some variation between them. As load is balanced between the machines, the differences should not be too huge. Hitting refresh on that image will most likely take you to a different server, giving a different number.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:47 am EDT
1,613,000 now! :D
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Mar 15th 2008 at 10:08 am EDT
How to donate with a Canadian Zip code as an American citizen?
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Phil from Canada
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:10 am EDT
That is absolutely amazing.
You know what this means, right?
WE COULD HIT 1,000,000 **NEW** DONORS IN MARCH!!!
Wouldn't that be spectacular? 1 million people who invested in America's future in the 13 month leading to February. Another million people JUST I ONE MONTH!
If we hit 2 million, that would be like 2 in every 10 people who voted for Obama having also donated to him!
Yes, yes, technically there are some people who didn't vote yet, and there are some that perhaps voted the other way and crossed over later... but let's not get hung up on the small stuff!
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Jeremy Sun
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:14 am EDT
I think most of Ron Paul's supporters became Barack supporters. After John McCain won the Republican nomination, I noticed that the runner increased significantly within a short period of time.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:39 am EDT
I'm waiting for HRC to claim that Republicans are crossing over and donating to Barack's campaign just to sabatage hers.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 4:26 am EDT
Who cares, I'm sick of the Clintons, they are like a stain on a bed sheet, they wont go away until you wash it.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:49 am EDT
note: according to the glyph, this is only 2008 new donors. The Total 2007+2008 must staggering.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:52 am EDT
Again, still impressive, but need to be accurate.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:26 am EDT
This image is the old DONATIONS counter, not unique donors. So if you'll be counted here as many times as you give. Still very impressive. The unique donors counter has not been updated this month.
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yesterday gone
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:30 am EDT
when did we hit 1 million? i want to know how long it took to gain the extra 600,ooo. was it 2 weeks ago?
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:32 am EDT
1 million unique donors over the course of the campaign was hit late last month. This number is not measuring the same thing. See my earlier post in this thread.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:40 am EDT
Seems like we hit 1 million just after the last debate, but before the vote . . . I guess around March 2nd or 3rd?
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:51 am EDT
As I recall, the 1 million donations in 2008 (the number that this link refers to) was a week or so after the 1 million donors for the campaign. Some time late last month as well, MAYBE in the first day or two of this month. I posted about it in a thread back then.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 2:59 am EDT
Great NYT article on Obama's mother. It's a wonderful glimpse into this extraordinary woman's life and why Obama is such a great human being, and why he will make the best POTUS.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:16 am EDT
I forgot to include the link in the previous post:
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:00 am EDT
to say he is proud to be the first African American to have all but clinched the Democratic Nomination, to say that when he began this cammpaign he had great dreams for America, dreams that thie election signified a movement of true change in America, an opportunity to show that race was no more significant a reason for not voting for him than any other reason... maybe it is time for Sen. Obama to express his pride in his heritage and his vision of himself as a candidate who would be 'turning the page' on the nation's history of bigotry and social injustices. But that now, over the course of the past few weeks, he realizes that not all Americans are ready for this moment, that many of us still fall prey to the politics which have continued to divide us and prevent us from moving forward as a united America. Obama should say he is a Black American running for President and that with this heritage he carries along with him generations of African Americans who lacked his opportunities, and that he owed those opportunities to the struggles they fought, the discriminations they overcame. The marinalizations so many African Americans, as well as Hispanic Americans, poor Americans, geographically challenged Americans, Muslim Americans, disabled Americans, Veterans, Mentally handicapped Americans ... and female Americans.
It is now time for America to engage in honest and open dialog about our past so that we can bring all of, our failures, our successes, our discontented and our fortunate together in this movement to elect him as president. Obama understands the fury of Rev. Wright. And the sentiments expressed by Rev. Wright reflect the emotions of many African Americans from that era, but there are still many African Americans today who have not yet been given reason to believe that there is an equal place for them in a new America. Nor are there places for other disenfranchised groups.
Obama must address and teach about the uncercurrent of this anger.The anger, frustration, disappointment and lack of hope is now evidenced throughout American society.
"I am an African American and I am running for the presidency of the United States.
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Jeremy Sun
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:03 am EDT
Correction. He is half white, half black. He grew up with his white mother and white grandparents. I do not consider his African American and neither should any of his supporters. We should respect his white heritage as well.
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Jeremy Sun
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:05 am EDT
Furthermore, Barack is a distant cousin of both President Bush and Vice President Cheney, which explains why he's so talented in politics. However, his views are good and focus on unity, instead of bad and focusing on divisiveness that Bush and Cheney do.
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Amy
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:07 am EDT
wait, so bush and cheney are then cousins as well?
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Jeremy Sun
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:08 am EDT
Yes. They are 3rd cousins.
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Amy
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:13 am EDT
OMG are you for real?
No way.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:17 am EDT (Updated Mar 15th 2008 at 4:57 pm EDT)
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Jeremy Sun
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:17 am EDT
Here is a link from MSNBC from a few months ago:
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:15 am EDT
Sen. Obama needs to move the campaign from beyond the distractions of the past week and back onto discussing the real issues facing real people --- the economy, the housing market crumbling, the bank/mortgage lender industry on the verge of insolvency, the dollar not worth the paper its printed on, and gas prices going through the roof (and let us never forget American soliders being killed or wounded in Iraq and Afghanistan everyday).
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Jeremy Sun
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:21 am EDT
Barack and Dodd just passed a really cool foreclosure bill a few days ago. They are going after the issues more so than any other candidate.
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Maryann in VA - The Times They Are A Changin'!
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:16 am EDT
This explains the relationship between Obama and Bush, Obama and Cheney (and Harry S Truman). I found this when I found out that Barack and I are 10th cousins.
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Leila
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:35 am EDT
Please, that's an insult!
Obama and Cheney are like 9th cousins removed, so they don't share DNA...thank goodness for Barack!
It's irrelevant, anyway. Barack is talented because of his brilliant parents.
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Jeremy Sun
Mar 15th 2008 at 4:19 am EDT
Well, if you think about, because of evolution, we all share either a single common pair of ancestors or a number of pairs of ancestors many thousands of years ago. We are all related to Einstein, Newton, Hitler, blah blah blah.... each person is himself/herself, "guilt by association" is simply wrong and has no place in this world. PERIOD.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:56 am EDT
Obama is trying to get people to see past his race. We still live in a very prejudiced society, but Barack has a knack of showing us the type of person he is inside, and, once you know him, you don't even register his ethnicity. If you've noticed in state after state, the prejudice is reflected in the polls. But when Obama campaigns in those states, the people gradually get won over. They no longer see a black guy running for president, they see a smart, hard working, responsible man of integrity. So should he throw all of that progress out the window and remind us how he's the "black man that beat the odds", and the "brother that feels our pain"? I'm fairly sure that would turn a successful run for the presidency into a train wreck.
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Michele
Mar 15th 2008 at 5:36 am EDT
Like maybe it's not so difficult to see past our differences, once we recognize that we belong to the same humanity.
The rest is nonsense, created to keep divided the troops for those who seek power.
The ONLY ones who benefit from talk of division in this election are Barack's opponents.
The electorate do not benefit. We all have the same needs, the same hopes.
"A nation divided against itself cannot stand."
-Lincoln
STAND FOR CHANGE
YES WE CAN
YES WE CAN
OBAMA '08
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:20 am EDT
Jeremy,
I think he considers himself African American, and based on history, most do as well, however, you make a GREAT point in that the TOTALITY of his racial makeup should not be marginalized.
People need to know he is a product of his heritage. Having two parents of different races has given him a unique perspective, in that he can understand and empathize with BOTH sides.
Whites (and Blacks too) need to realize this, instead of assuming things about him. Instead of trying to label him as the "Black candidate," he needs to be seen as a man with an unusual background, one that makes him uniquely qualified to bridge the gap between peoples of diverse races.
Unfortunately, the Clintons and the vilest elements in my party (I'm an African American Republican) are painting him into the "Black" corner, and it's stifling his message. This above all else infuriates me. As a country, it seems we have not come very far at all. The media circus today demonstrated this in painful detail.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:24 am EDT
Yeah, I agree. Barack is just like a liger, an offspring of a lion and a tiger. He gets the best genes of both races, that's why he's so tall, so handsome, and so intelligent. He's the best leader for this great country.
PS: I'm from Canada.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 5:47 am EDT
...I'll try to find the link...He is very vocal about his respect for both his parents and his family in general, however he idenifies as African American / Black...so really it would do better that he is respected according to how he views himself.
He's not Half that or Half that, he is actually one whole human being, a whole man.
What right / responsiblity do any of us have to divide him into pieces, to over ride what he says about himself, his race...how is that possible?
...It's all positive, all good. Not taking away from any part of him as an outstanding person.
Another point...who here is really PURE -anything besides BEING pure HUMAN BEING?
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:02 am EDT
I'M A CHRISTIAN I BELIEVE IN JESUS AND I BELIEVE HE WILL GIVE OBAMA A CHANCE TO PROVE HIMSELF...SO SAY WHAT YOU WANT...GOD WILL JUDGE NOT A BLOGGER, NOR MAN ON EARTH CAN DO SO...
THE WORLD WILL ALWAYS HAVE HATEFUL PEOPLE LIKE THE ONES I HAVE SEEN ON THIS BLOG..FOXNEWS IS A HATEFUL NEW CHANNEL..APPEALING ONLY TO REPUBLICAN AND MOSTLY WHITE PEOPLE..IT IS CLEAR WHAT'S GOING ON..CLEAR AS I READ THESE BLOGS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE SO UNAWARE OF THE WORLD..ANYONE WHO THINKS OBAMA IS DONE OR OVER WILL BE SAD TOMORROW TO FIND OUT THIS STORY WILL NOT STOP HIM HE WILL SEE TOMORROW AND THE NEXT DAY AND THE NEXT DAY.. HE WILL BE THE FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICAN..
I’LL LEAVE FOXNEWS WITH THIS
YOUR NOT GOING TO STOP OBAMA..TO MANY PASTOR WHO SUPPORTED REPUBLICAN LIKE JOHN MCCAIN ARE JUST AS BAD..I DON’T KNOW IF THE PASTOR WORDS WERE BAD THEY WERE FROM A BLACK MAN POINT OF VIEW
I MEAN A BLACK POINT OF VIEW IS DIFFERENT TO SOME PEOPLE WHO DO NOT UNDERSTAND..
BUT OBAMA HAS HIS OWN MIND HIS OWN HEART..HE HAS BEEN THE MOST RESPECTFUL CANDIDATE IN THIS RACE.. HE DIDN’T ATTACK HILLARY UNTIL SHE ATTACK HIM
HE HAS TRIED TO PUT RACE ABOVE ALL OF THIS BUT FOXNEWS WANTS TO LYNCH HIM…
WANTS TO STOP HIS CHANCES OF BECOMING THE FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN PRESIDENT..FOXNEWS IS KNOWN FOR THEIR LOVE FOR REPUBLICAN SO WHY I’M BLOGGING ON THEIR WEBSITE BECAUSE I WANT THEM TO KNOW
OBAMA HAS SOMEONE WHO SUPPORTS HIM FOR HIS QUALIFICATIONS..HE IS SOMETHING DIFFERENT SOMETHING THIS COUNTRY NEEDS AND I’M NOT GOING TO SIT BACK WHY MR.. HANNITY THE JUDGER JUDGES HIM FOR THINGS REPUBLICAN PASTOR HAVE DONE..
THAT PASTOR IS NOT OBAMA..HE HAS BEEN ABOVE THE FRAY AND I WILL SUPPORT HIM THROUGH ALL OF THIS…
SO SAY WHAT YOU WANT…
OBAMA WILL OVERCOME THIS LYNCHING..HE WILL BECOME OUR COUNTRY FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN PRESIDENT
OBAMA STAND UP ….DON’T LET THEM TEAR YOU DOWN….YOU ARE OBAMA YOU ARE NOT YOUR PASTOR..
OBAMA STAND UP…AND FIGHT
STAND UP AND FIGHT THESE FOXNEWS REPUBLICAN LOVERS….WANT TO STOP A BLACK MAN FROM PRESIDENT…GOD JUDGER FOLKS
STAND UP …STAND UP …STAND UP …
AND FIGHT..OBAMA FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT…
FIGHT AGAINST THE ONES WHO WANT TO DESTROY YOU...DESTROY THE HOPE OF AMERICANS..
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Mar 15th 2008 at 4:59 am EDT
Please, please, please stop posting in ALL CAPS. It like you were shouting at us.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 9:58 am EDT
stop the mean spiritedness on this board.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:02 am EDT
There is no exhortation to Nationalism from the Bible that I know of. The instruction is to Love God and your fellow man.
I don't understand what it means to love or hate a country? A country isn't an entity. Are people saying they love the ground or the ideology?
If it is ideology, is it all the ideology? I mean many social conservatives hate abortion, and it's legal here. The mistake Pastor Wright made was that he wasn't specific. He should have said God damn an overly aggressive foreign policy. Maybe God damn inequality in this country. The idea that he hates the entire country is absurd, because is own congregation is part of the country. Looking back in our history, there are many things that should be condemned. His biggest mistake was being too general, and not specific.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:07 am EDT
Hey Stan--what you said Wright should have said . . . I'm pretty sure that's what he meant when he said it. Since his followers know that he preaches for social justice, it would only make sense in that context to all of the. He probably didn't feel the need to elaborate when in front of his own congregation. I'm certain he never expected all of us to analyze his words or word choice!
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:02 am EDT
*i had posted on old blog, now moving it to new blog*
i am interested in traveling to PA with others from new england. friend me if anyone wants to carpool to campaign. i have joined a committee and am doing some internet research for it. it is pretty exciting because it is an issue i care for a lot.
i have heard some ideas mentioned about a nationwide night for barack stand for change before PA. i think we could pull this off, really. that would be huge, especially while all the silly stuff was going on, it would speak volumes. how can we get this done? first, we need an over-seer with the vision. we need organizers, one head one per state, and another person to deal with the live feed aspect. i am not coordinated enough to organize it, but i am willing to be a part of something like this. first, should we create a group for it, where we can communicate at least and get a running list of who is interested and willing? please respond or friend....thanks.
hey all, i thought it was a night-owl who first proposed this idea. i recognize a lot of names, so cannot remember who. i think it would be a great idea, on a night before PA elections, to hold a nationwide stand-for-change rally. someone had mentioned live-feed speeches, which may have to take place in smaller venues. but, even without a feed, we could have supporters just gather in different cities for a candle-light 'vigil' (is that for death?? LOL cuz that would not be good...what other word than vigil?) anyway, i just think the idea of as many supporters as possible getting out one night would be awesome and it would speak to the fact that the "demographics" are a lie. what do you think? ok, well, i am revved up for this, so i keep posting it--do not burst my bubble :-( anyway, i must go nuke a pizza and go to bed (hungry and tired not good). i think starting a group for this would be a good idea, at least to begin discussion. five weeks is a lot of time, and i for one, need something positive to focus on, as i am sure MSM will be all silly for the next few at least. :-)
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:07 am EDT
does anyone else really think that the fox news network is a danger to society because it feeds and fuels hatred, intolerance, and ignorance?
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Victoria
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:11 am EDT
What? are you kidding...do you really have to think about that??
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:11 am EDT
fox news is the most ridiculous excuse for journalism in the history of this planet.
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Phil from Canada
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:12 am EDT
I agree. However it's really sad, because I rather enjoy some of the prime time Fox TV shows :)
Well, I guess FoxNews is not exactly the same network as Fox... or something like that...
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:13 am EDT
Yes. Totally and completely. People I know who only get their news there are extremely intolerant. They repeat everything said there, visit O'Reilly's Website (which is dangerous in itself because it basically tells people what to think, what to read, how to "debate" people, etc.), and listen only to other people like Bill whom Bill endorses. When I "debate" these people, they cut me off, yell at me, twist my words, don't use clear logic, etc.--just like Bill and others model for them over at Faux news.
If you've never seen "Outfoxed," I'd recommend putting it on your video list. It's actually on You Tube--in full.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:21 am EDT
yeah, and that's exactly why i fear that this "network" is truly dangerous!
can you imagine, if they continue to spew this hate and lies all summer and into the fall, and convince people that if obama is elected, we'll be attacked by terrorists, or blacks will take over the country and suppress whites, etc., that something really bad could happen?
one of the racist, ignorant, mindless viewers of that network could attempt something really awful here, and i don't even like to think about it, but doing this to john kerry is one thing.
doing it to barack obama is something else. it's irresponsible and it REALLY makes me uneasy. i fear the person who can watch this crap all day long and think it's real.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:22 am EDT
Not only do I believe that but I'm done with them from now on. It's ironic because that was my policy before -- never to watch Fox News because they contribute only negativity to the world but I started again in Jan because I couldn't get enough coverage of Barack. I would surf all the channels trying to get my Barack fix -- the means justifies the ends -- even if it meant suffering that insufferable fool Sean Hannity and the like. But no more. Done.
out of many, we are one
while we breathe, we will hope...
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Sue, OH
Mar 15th 2008 at 5:20 am EDT
I agree that Barack should not condemn his long time Reverend. Would you disown your parents for sharing a different value system from your own? The racial issues still exist in America because people are afraid to discuss them. Yes African Americans have been discriminated against in our country and we acknowledge this and are as a country trying to repair the damage of our ancestors. The Reverend Wright should not be condemned by remarks. Is he not envoking passion in you? This is what makes a good minister. He can capture an audience. The media needs to present his life story as a whole and not just a snip it presentation slanted towards provoking hate in America. If Sean Hannity continues to try to presecute Barack, I feel he will ruin his career forever. Mr. Hannity needs to take step back and put himself in the shoes of Rev. Wright. It is my understanding that Reverend Wright served in the United States Marine Corp. Does that sound unpatriotic to you? Mr. Hannity needs to stop his nonsense and admit that his candidate does not cut the mustard so he has to resort to negative campaining. What a sad little man.
That is why Barack needs to continue to be forthright with the truth as he has and stand by his convictions. Speak about the issues - Redirect the troops to the real war on terror, take away the tax cuts for the record breaking business men of the oil companies and have them send the checks directly to us. These topics need to be discussed. Address the negativity and bring on your message of HOPE and how we can rise above this hate and unite our country. We are all AMERICANS and together we will bring honor back to the United States of America. WE should not allow the media to destroy what we have accomplished in this country.No more partisianship. No more racial, gender, financial divide. Together we can spread HOPE towards a brigher future for the United States of America.
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Sue, OH
Mar 15th 2008 at 5:28 am EDT
I agree that Barack should not condemn his long time Reverend. Would you disown your parents for sharing a different value system from your own? The racial issues still exist in America because people are afraid to discuss them. Yes African Americans have been discriminated against in our country and we acknowledge this and are as a country trying to repair the damage of our ancestors. The Reverend Wright should not be condemned by remarks. Is he not envoking passion in you? This is what makes a good minister. He can capture an audience. The media needs to present his life story as a whole and not just a snip it presentation slanted towards provoking hate in America. If Sean Hannity continues to try to presecute Barack, I feel he will ruin his career forever. Mr. Hannity needs to take step back and put himself in the shoes of Rev. Wright. It is my understanding that Reverend Wright served in the United States Marine Corp. Does that sound unpatriotic to you? Mr. Hannity needs to stop his nonsense and admit that his candidate does not cut the mustard so he has to resort to negative campaining. What a sad little man.
That is why Barack needs to continue to be forthright with the truth as he has and stand by his convictions. Speak about the issues - Redirect the troops to the real war on terror, take away the tax cuts for the record breaking business men of the oil companies and have them send the checks directly to us. These topics need to be discussed. Address the negativity and bring on your message of HOPE and how we can rise above this hate and unite our country. We are all AMERICANS and together we will bring honor back to the United States of America. WE should not allow the media to destroy what we have accomplished in this country.No more partisianship. No more racial, gender, financial divide. Together we can spread HOPE towards a brigher future for the United States of America.
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Dan from Illinois
Mar 15th 2008 at 5:29 am EDT
Not only are they a danger to society, but they are powerful. Fox News is owned by News Corp. which controls much of the media world wide. Some of their holdings include:
20th Century Fox
Fox Movie Channel
Fox News Channel
Fox Sports Digital
Fox Sports Enterprises
Fox Sports Espanol
Fox Sports Net
Fox Sports World
DIRECTV
New York Post
Harper Collins Publishers
MySpace.com (yep)
Check out FoxAttacks.com for other interesting details.
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We need everyone to boycott all the Fox channels and force a reduction in their advertising dollars. And get the word out to as many citizens as we can. We can hit them where it hurts.
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Dan from Illinois
Mar 15th 2008 at 5:35 am EDT
By the way, News Corp. is owned by Robert Murdoch who is Australian by birth. Rumor has it that he became a citizen of the United States in the 1980's so that he would meet the requirement to be allowed to purchase U.S. television stations. So not only are we being fed this bigotted propaganda, but it is bought and paid for by a foreigner.
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Jindu from Houston, TX
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:11 am EDT
To all you new obama supporters, this might be a shock to you but not to people like us. I heard this story about a year ago but it didn't take steam. Let me tell you whats going on, they have searched and search but can't find anything new....so they recycle! Oh, and if you think this is the end of it, ur kidding urself, watch it come back again. So please, this isn't going to be easy, but keep ur heart steady. Remember, we are the change.
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Jindu from Houston, TX
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:13 am EDT
To all you new obama supporters, this might be a shock to you but not to people like us. I heard this story about a year ago but it didn't take steam. Let me tell you whats going on, they have searched and search but can't find anything new....so they recycle! Oh, and if you think this is the end of it, ur kidding urself, watch it come back again. So please, this isn't going to be easy, but keep ur heart steady. Remember, we are the change.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 11:29 am EDT
HI there. Here's a short story you all might find helpful today. At the time of the 9/11 attack on our country, I was working as a reporter for a paper in a rather large Texas city (Pop 485,000)
As it was our wont,we took turns each day writing an opinion column. The day after the horrendous attack which the entire staff watched, many in tears,an intern -- a foreicn national -- wrote her opinion column -- saying pretty much the same as Rev. Wright said in his rant. It was published. As the government reporter, I got a call from the mayor asking me who this person was who wrote this column.. I told him it was an intern, a Chinese national, as she was, and referred him to our editor. Editor's response? To give her the next day's column space to justify why she said all this. No apology. Were our readers mad? Yup. Did a few cancel their subscriptions? Yup. Did they get over it? Yup. Was she fired? Nope.
I pray daily for Barack who has been denigrated like no other condidate I've seen.
we can do two things; We can contact every Superdelegate. To find out which are in your district, ck out www.cnnPoloitics.com, scroll down below the map and click on your state's first letter.
Secondly,please feel compassion for PA folks when we call or visit. PA Gov. Rendl has labeled them as racists " who won't vote for someone who isn't white." ... I've lived in PA and that just isn't so.
Barack: I pray for you daily. Your decency, brilliant mind, love foro our Constitution and our country, and your compassion shows every time you speak.
Besides, I won't vote for anyone but you. I dont want just okay, I want the best. Hannah, a recently retired journalist and veteran US Navy medic Hannah
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Mar 15th 2008 at 8:10 am EDT
While I appreciate your idea and certainly don't want to burst your bubble, I think a nationwide rally will scare the citizenry and therefore have detrimental effects for Obama's nomination. My dad used to say, "remember this is an election, not a revolution." And while some might thirst for a revolution, this is not the time. The economy is tanking, folks are without jobs, they are losing their homes, and they are trying to figure out how to deal with the rising price of food and gas. At times such as these, people tend to become more conservative, not less. Fair enough. Folks want to know how Obama is going to help them deal with their very concrete and real problems. A large rally of folks screaming change will more than likely head them over to McCain's camp. I saw on a blog a few days ago the idea of Obama supporters organizing a kind of "national day of service to the community." I think this is a better way to go--actually helping local communities in a myriad of ways. Our slogan could be something like, "Not just standing for change, but working for it everyday."
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Mar 15th 2008 at 9:15 am EDT
I Like that. I think it's a good idea...
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:08 am EDT
One day, a few criminals came to town. Washington, DC actually; - 'twas an organized team of liars, cheaters, manipulators, thieves and killers. True criminals. They had a big, bold plan and a lot of money and many powerful friends.
They stole the election to get into power. They then set to work vigorously shredding the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. They eagerly manipulated government agencies and federal employees so they could occupy foreign countries and secure oil deals and create tremendous oil pipelines. They falsified documents and altered testimonies to prop up military invasions and illegal occupations. They hurled ridiculous lies on the population in an effort to spread fear through the masses and subvert their will.
They looted the country's treasury and gave away many generations' worth of funding to a small handful of huge corporations. They pillaged and contaminated the land, air and water. They detained people without charge, tortured them and some have still not been released or identified or charged with a crime.
They have disregarded the rule of law, the nations' legislative and judicial branches of government and ignored and subverted the will of the population. And they have imprisoned and harassed some of those who stood up and protested this injustice.
These leaders partnered with many sinister nations to carry out serious misdeeds. Covert plans and actions were carried out counterproductive to national interests and many questionable regimes and organizations were supported and rewarded....
These criminals are working as hard as ever right now, as we speak - carrying out their sinister work. As I type this, laws are being ignored, innocent people are being tortured, good and loyal soldiers are being killed and the cohorts of these leaders are making off with the lions share of the US Treasury.
These criminals have left us mired in two lost wars, the largest terrorist attack and single greatest loss of life on US soil still not properly investigated, our economy heading into catastrophe, and our democracy teetering on the brink of collapse.
These people are in our government right now. We have to stop them. We have another year of this. We are all being distracted, intentionally and carefully, so that we will not fully notice what they are doing in their last few months in power.
Obama is the only one that can possibly stop this madness. We should remember this always.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:23 am EDT
Amen to that, Joe.
We are being distracted while more and more people are being laid of work and kicked out of their homes due to foreclosures. It's a sad state of affairs when the MSM is so wound up over something said by a pastor (not Sen. Obama)...instead of reporting the real news.
Gas is $4.50 a gallon in San Francisco!
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Mar 15th 2008 at 5:14 am EDT
Hate to break it to you but gas prices are never going to come down. Gas prices are high because the world is running out of oil. Supply and demand.
Yes, oil co. profits are high but even if oil companies were nationalized and run as non-profits, the price would still need to be nearly as high or people would use too much and cause shortages.
One of the few things that bums me out about Barack, is that like all other politicians he can't be straight with the people about this particular issue. All politicians like to talk about high gas prices to show that they feel the people's pain. But that's really not the issue. The issue is that we are running out, prices can never come down, and in fact with the danger of global warming we are STILL using far too much gas, and really it would be better if gas were $30 a gallon instead of $3.
But you just can't tell people that, now can you. I can't blame Barack for it, but the world is in for some nasty shocks if we don't start getting it thru our thick skulls. Need to bike, ride the bus, live closer. Agitate for nuclear-powered electric trains, or something. Don't mean to be negative, it's just the way it is. No other option. I actually feel pretty positive about it... cars are mostly just smelly and dangerous, and I for one will be glad to live in a world without traffic.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 6:15 am EDT
Gas Prices are high because the Oil Producing Nations of the world are keeping the supply low on purpose - this is what happened in the 1970's - and what is happening now. We should use this time to really invest in alternative energy because most Americans are only interested in the environment when they see a direct connection to their pocketbooks.
Gas prices will come down when the Bush administration leaves office.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 6:42 am EDT
Hey why are we worrying about gas prices? We all own a Prius, right?
In all honesty, my wife and I test drove one today. Pretty nice car. We will probably buy it.
Now all we need is the birkenstocks and the trustfund (I already sip lattes).
Obama 08 Baby!!!
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Mar 15th 2008 at 8:58 am EDT
Hi MrHusseinChuckles,
Prius' are GREAT! Everyone should get one. My husband and I have four children and we still got rid of our minivan and got one. Luckily, one son is in college so we rarely have the six of us needing to go somewhere at once, but when we do, we just pile in. We've gotten quite the stares when all six of us get out of the car. Anyway, we average about 50 mpg. And the back of the car is plastered with Obama bumper stickers! In fact, I find most Prius' wear their views with bumper stickers.
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Jamie from Lansdowne, PA
Mar 15th 2008 at 8:48 am EDT
Excellent use of analogy to explain where we are, and how much work it will take to recover from the psychological, social, emotional, physical, economic, political, legal assault on all of us.
They've given "PATRIOTISM" a bad name.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:41 am EDT
And .....
They will do any thing to keep it!
Go Obama 08 We are with 100%
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:08 am EDT
Clinton is finished, yet she desperately spins anything that can harm Obama, knowing that her ceiling of support is basically 51% so she has to tear him down; it's a pathetic spectacle that gets older as each day passes and Billary inches closer to the inevitable precipice that they will ultimately--and thankfully--plunge off in a few long weeks.
When, if ever, will the Clintons wake up and realize that it's over, that unless they rig the superdelegates and steal the election they can't possibly claim this victory? Imagine Clinton, loser in states, delegates, and popular votes to the first democratically elected African-American nominee!
Get ready, they will try anything...this will all blow over just like the Ferraro issue in a few days.
Go Obama- Yes We Can!
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MullerOhana: YES WE CAN, bitch.
Mar 15th 2008 at 4:07 am EDT
It's not the Clintons that have to realize the futility of her campaign, it is the superdelegates. Those ***holes are sitting on their duffs, watching the party rip itself to shreds, when they could get together and put a stop to it immediately. What are they waiting for? They must know they cannot allow HRC to be the nominee; she will not win with the perception of a stolen nomination from Barack. Don't they realize that every day they wait adds a half percent to John McCain's eventual win in November? This is madness.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:10 am EDT
Thank you Barack for being the leader that you are. It must be really difficult to face all this negativity when all you want to do is improve this country and help people. Thank god that you are strong, courageous, dignified, intelligent, well mannered, humorous and even tempered. I admired you greatly and I appreciate all you have given us. I will not abandon you or your campaign, because I know a genuine person when I see one. God bless you and keep up the good fight.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:12 am EDT
I second that without question!
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Ariel
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:13 am EDT
i really think the fox news network profits from catering to the racist and ignorant tendencies of the people who watch that channel.
that's why i think it's a danger to society because it feeds and fuels hatred and intolerance in a large group of people.
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Jade--Who Loves to Decorate Her Latte Cup With Flag Pins!
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:18 am EDT
You are 100% correct on that.
One thing I've always wanted to know about Obama is where he stands on the issue of media reform. Does anyone know if he has any opinions on it? I know that John Kerry is very much in favor of it.
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Sharon~Independent for Obama
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:11 am EDT
I know about the whole pastor issue and Sen. Obama's appearances on the MSM...but I haven't been on this site since 5pm.
I don't have the time to read the 3,000 posts on the last blog...what did I miss?
My support for Sen. Obama will never change...he cannot be held accountable for the actions of others. Period.
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Victoria
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:13 am EDT
Nothing..the same old right-wing conspiracy /Hillary spin...
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Samantha from CT
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:13 am EDT
nothing at all LOL
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Jade--Who Loves to Decorate Her Latte Cup With Flag Pins!
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:16 am EDT
Sharon--you missed A LOT of trolls! Lucky you!! If you've seen Barack's appearances then you've seen it all for tonight. We're just here trying to talk to one another without being distracted with the McClinton/McCain fans.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:20 am EDT
The 'Fecal Matter hit the Oscillating Blades' but it was kind of fun in hindsight.
Trolls were everywhere - I am certain the Secret Service is going to enjoy talking to a few of the 'simple-minded idiots'.
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Lisa (Long Island, NY)
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:20 am EDT
You didn't miss anything. Just some ugly trolls who came to visit us. ;-P
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Amy
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:28 am EDT
Yeah just some crazy trolls who threatned Sen. Obama.
They were reported, obviously.
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Sharon~Independent for Obama
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:29 am EDT
Thanks for the info...I'm glad I missed the onslaught of trolls. Isn't it sad that anyone could take delight in such an unfortunate situation...which isn't Sen. Obama's fault?
Doesn't the MSM or the trolls for that matter know that they can't change our minds about Sen. Obama? I'm sure there are a million polls out there about this matter.
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Biglenec
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:37 am EDT
You have not missed anything....All quiet on the front.
Just fellowshipping like good sisters and brothers do when they come together for a strong cause.
YES WE CAN !!!! O'BAMA 08'
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Taizy from Ireland
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:13 am EDT
I went out this evening to see a play. I knew about the Pastor Wright thing and the Fox News and Hate-nny, that disgrace to us Irish. I know that Obama is good, I know that He and all of us are up against something. We have to stick together as they try to divide us.
There is more power in many than anyone even knows, it is bigger than we are. We are greater when we are unified - stronger.
Keep together. love to all.....Maeve
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L.A. Musician
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:17 am EDT
I just hope that the Wright issue does not turn voters away.
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Taizy from Ireland
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:19 am EDT
gosh Daniel, If you didn't have a profile I would have thought you were from a troll.
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Bob- Delegate f/36th Dist Seattle
Mar 15th 2008 at 4:21 am EDT
It is possible some may turn away due to the Wright stuff, but I also think it's very likely that the way Obama handled it- not kicking to the ground someone who's been in his life long-time and yet explaining where he strongly disagrees- could very likely gain him alot more supporters, too. I also think the Super Delegates were probably wondering how he would handle it and- as usual when there are bumps on the road- he defused it and he showed a lot of courage going on the news channels- including Fox!- to face what fire there might be. People respect someone who deals with a potential crisis effectively. Tucker Carlson said tonight on his last show "If Obama steers through this Wright matter, he's going to be the next President of the United States." That bow tie Tucker does actually know a thing or two.
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Taizy from Ireland
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:25 am EDT
sorry if offended Daniel..been a lot happening today :)
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:15 am EDT
It's kinda funny we are Americans who stand up and show the rest of the world we are together as one. News media actually do the opposite, tear down whenever they can. It sells, brings ratings up and makes money for the corporations. What embarrasses me are people's ignorance. Hillary is a prime example on MI & FL, trying to count the votes for her gain. She doesn't care about the voters, only her campaign matters.
We are seeing a prime example of the uneducated voters that Hillary brags about. I see some can even collect a thought and type them down on this feedback.
Its more important than ever to teach our young minds to stop the hatred and think before you speak. There are many out there that are lost in their pitiful lives. God usually deals with them. All you can do is hope and try to teach your family and others not to hate, understand before you speak.
When this is over and the news media finds other candidates to tear down, we'll heal and get learning's from this and go on.
Just hang in there.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:17 am EDT
I sure hope Barack doesn't go along with a Michigan revote in June, since colleges will be out of session, and so many people between 18-23 will be out of the state over the summer. It's clear to me that HRC purposely waited to push this in June so Barack would lose most of his youth vote, and thus lose the primary. On the other hand, the HRC seniors who went to Florida for the winter will all be back in Michigan by June.
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Amy
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:22 am EDT
I really don't think he can object though because he needs that state in the GE.
The most hardcore HRC supporter I know is from MI...and she recently switched to Obama.
She hated the clinton ferraro thing and when she heard Barack's response on Wright, she made the switch.
People are getting tired of HRC, so I have faith in MI.
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Lisa (Long Island, NY)
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:22 am EDT
I truly believe this nomination fight will be all but over before June anyway. Enough supers will move Obama's way to make any Michigan revote (if it even happens) a moot point.
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Liza Heider
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:19 am EDT
You amaze me : )
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:19 am EDT
I think if BO tweak his stump speeches to focus on the then and now, he will corral most of the cynics (who may have been affected from the last 48 hours of news cycles) and people who are still on the fence.
Maybe if BO compares the differences in psychological thinking of the “Baby Boomers” and the “Generation X’ers”, he can get them to see through bifocal lenses.
There’s been a lot of hurt feelings and heavy hearts when it comes to race relations in our country over the last 50 years and I think no one can put this subject on the kitchen (along with mortgages, healthcare, and national security) better than BO.
Thoughts….
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MB in NYC
Mar 15th 2008 at 4:03 am EDT
I would totally like to see him give a powerful speech on race AND gender in the context of history. How this history can be used to continue to divide us or to move us forward.
I would then like him to open a dialogue on the issue so people can vent constructively and share...perhaps in a townhall setting, I don't know.
But to pretend that everything is fine and we can all just move forward without ever really talking about it is silly and obviously false. I think a lot of people will gain even more respect for him for beginning a real conversation on the issues. No one can do this with the level of sincerity that Barack has.
PS---thank you Michelle and girls for letting us borrow him these last couple years. I can only imagine the strain this is putting on your family.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:20 am EDT
Barack Obama's direct response to the criticism he received at the hysterical hands of the news media today is a lesson to us all. Without rancor, without raising his voice, and with loyalty and integrity, he told the nation to calm down, step back and breathe.
The best part of this campaign has been his measured response to media frenzies about things which are out of his control and which are not worthy of the air the press spends huffing at them.
He sets an example for reasoned discourse. May we all follow it.
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Amy
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:25 am EDT
exactly!
the day he gets up behind a podium, waves a flier and screams 'shame on' anybody will be the day hell freezes over.
He's a class act, one of a kind. Truly a once in a lifetime candidate.
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Bob from Alexandria, VA
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:33 am EDT
That's a reflection of his crisis handling competence. His precision in answering impromtu questions is another indication of the acuteness of his mind. All good qualities for the presidency.
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Jeannie "Make Three Wishes on Her Bottle of Hope for One and All" in PA
Mar 15th 2008 at 9:07 am EDT
I don't understand how anyone could feel nervous with his so called inexperience with overseas policy. That's one of the main reasons I support him -- he's the only one who makes me feel safe in regards to foreign policy, because he is even tempered, tolerant, has common sense, and is brilliant!
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:26 am EDT
I have never voted in my 50 years, but I am voting for Obama. This is not because of his inspirational or oratorial skills, but because of his understanding of the ills of America, how she lost her grace by practicing unruly, selfish, unethical plundering of other nations' wealth and disrupting their social systems.
However, we must never follow Paster Wright lost of circumspection when over what he spoke in the last few days. The road to the Presidential Palace is a tough and challenging road, filled with pitfalls. Be circumspective until we are then. BTW: I'm an Asian American and I understand the reasons of Pastor Wright and Michelle Obama controversial words. However, my focus is with Obama. Obama is no Kennedy, he is just better.
We love you Obama, don't fail us.
Please post your response to this blog only, until I submit an email that I check.
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Jade--Who Loves to Decorate Her Latte Cup With Flag Pins!
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:31 am EDT
"However, we must never follow Paster Wright lost of circumspection when over what he spoke in the last few days."
I am not sure what that sentence even means.
But, we are with you. No worries.
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Bob from Alexandria, VA
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:38 am EDT
However, we must never follow Paster Wright's lost of circumspection on his "God damn America..." sermon. He could just say "God bless the world, including America". I understand where his anger came from.
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Donna Henderson,NV
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:52 am EDT
Barack is saying as according to the Bible it is written the as Beliver's in Christ we should walk circumspect. Basically upright,Our Conversation should be clear and sound....
According to the scriptures and this Gentleman (Pastor) step outside those boundaries...But Barack is sooo cool I missed his resposes I'm on PST time and we were at dinner so I missed all of it....I'm catching up as I go along.
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Vicki
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:09 pm EDT
I want to add "let us not fail Obama." We and He are in this together!
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:26 am EDT
ok, this could have been handled so much more effectively if someone in the campaign had paid attention to my post last week in which i had asked the campaign to preemptively protect the campaign by exposing and addressing anything that someone else can bring up as a negative. If Obama had known about these comments from early phase of the campaign, he should have removed him from the committee and even better should have not even had him on the committee to begin with. It just looks bad when you remove someone only after the media has already made so much fuss about this.
Lesson, if you have things like that bring them up yourself before anyone else rings them up, that way you can neutralize it much more effectively and move on to more important things. For example, Ferraro incident could have been the perfect place to tell people that you dont want to be a hypocrite so you are going to remove your own committee member before asking for anyone else to step down from her side.This could have been the best way to handle this. Hope we have learn our lesson, again..be proactive to avoid having to do damage control later on.
As far as I am ocncerned i dont care about what a relgious person has to say but guess a lot of people do pay attention to what these people say, even they should not...
Lesson: Dont wait for others to expose your hidden secrets or that of your pastor, expose them yourself and u will be better off...
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Taliese Sweetie: a typical bitter elitist Republican who loves Obama & thinks WaSILLY Sarah Palin was an AIP Sessionist Plant
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:43 am EDT
I call this the "8 Mile" strategy. For anyone who hasn't seen the movie "8 Mile," one of the last scenes is a "rap battle" with Eminem going toe to toe with his nemesis. Rapping battles are where two people stand up and try to out-wit each other through rapping impromptu. It's a verbal competition to see who can think the fastest on his feet.
Long story short, in the movie Eminem had a lot of negative baggage in his past that he knew his opponent would bring up to use against him, so Eminem brought it up first. He spilled all the dirty details about his past in a way that made the other guy look small.
This is what Obama needs to do. He needs to get everything out, just like he did with the drug situation. This takes the heat from any fire aimed at him. This puts him in control of the situation, giving him time to prepare and word things properly so the truth doesn't get twisted.
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Laura in Tallahassee, FL
Mar 15th 2008 at 11:34 am EDT
BreakingFree,
These comments were not unknown. I read about Wright's rhetorical style and how it would likely cause backlash in a British publication. This was over a month or so ago. In fact, I'm pretty sure it was in January, just after Iowa. I wish I could remember which media outlet it was.
Reverend Wright is NOT new news. The campaign has known this would come. I have zero doubt about this. Anyone who has read Obama's books and more about him online, including a lot of journalistic coverage from around the world has known about this.
The US MSM waited until now to drop the bomb.
Let me repeat, this is not new news.
It's going to be hard, but Obama will walk away on top.
This campaign is very, very smart. Obama himself is a genius lawyer. He knows what to say, when to say it, and who to say it to. Granted, doing a perfect job in all these scenarios might not happen.
To be fair, they knew this was coming at some point. Better now than later.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:27 am EDT
She's at it again.
Check out the pathetic, transparent Hillary double-speak in the following article. Do you all remember when caucus-goers were "party activists" and hence "unrepresentative of the electorate"? Well, apparently, she sees the "party activist" superdelegates as being REPRESENTATIVE of the electorate!!! How does that WORK? Those people are mostly well-educated, in positions of power, and financially well-off, right? But they are more "representative"?
How come the only transparency we can get with HRC is in her transparent BS?!!!
Source:
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:38 am EDT
Clinton: "Well, you know, there are there are three different kinds of delegates. You know delegates who come out of caucuses, delegates who come out of primaries and delegates who are appointed either because of the position they hold with the Democratic party or because of their elected position. "
No, there are four kinds of delegates: the delegates that go to dinner at Hillary's house and most likely leave with a nice stash! Time to see the tax returns!
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Jade--Who Loves to Decorate Her Latte Cup With Flag Pins!
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:49 am EDT
LOL!!
As an aside, I loved that someone on the news mentioned the other day that her caucus performance demonstrates a clear lack of leadership on her part. They can make up all of the excuses they want, but the truth is that it does come down to leadership and supporter enthusiasm. Also, funny how she has lost more caucuses AND more primaries!
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:50 am EDT
Here's some more to add to your disgust!
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Jade--Who Loves to Decorate Her Latte Cup With Flag Pins!
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:57 am EDT
Heh. Nice one. Thanks, I added it to my links list.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:59 am EDT
jade you are a "hoot and a half"!
HRC: caucus goer == unrepresentative party activists
HRC: superdelgate == Representative Party Activists
HRC: Its ALL about ME
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Jade--Who Loves to Decorate Her Latte Cup With Flag Pins!
Mar 15th 2008 at 4:07 am EDT
:0)
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Lynn
Mar 15th 2008 at 4:10 am EDT
If I recall correctly, Hillary started off with about 100 super delegates on day one of the campaign. Sort of makes a person wonder why or how she came in with such a wealth of super delegate support!
Maybe that's where she got her slogan of being ready on day one. Somewhere I read or heard someone posing the scary question of what she might do on day two.
Has anyone heard if she's released her earmark requests yet? McCain suggested the candidates do this a couple of days ago, & only Barack has done so to my knowledge. Hillary is known as the queen of earmarks. No disclosure yet?
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CanadianPerspective
Mar 15th 2008 at 4:16 am EDT
Here's some more to add to your disgust!
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Gary in Obamaville formerly of Crivitz, WI
Mar 15th 2008 at 5:44 am EDT
That's because a large number of SD were appointed by Bill.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:28 am EDT
Hey folks
I spent most of the evening on the last blog and what you missed is a lot of people sharing their experiences of racism against them, not in the past but now. These were in response to Pastor Wright's sermon, to give a context for his remarks. I was very moved and saddened to hear such stories. And my resolve was strengthened to be part of a movement that will bring people together in unity to heal this nation.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:28 am EDT
here's to another day we've been tested!
so...would anyone care to donate to my underfunded page...
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John From Cape Cod. Ma
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:28 am EDT
This Campaign is NOT about
Race
Gender
Color
Creed
The issues facing us all in this election are clearly outline above in the Issues dropdown menu.
By being side tracked into arguments/discussions
on anything other than these issues only serves
the agenda of the GOP and fragments both the candidates and the Democratic party.
If we do not get back on track we will not only lose to Clinton in PA..we will lose to the GOP in Nov.
Focus Brothers and Sisters
and do it now before its too late.
I don't care if the candidate is green, asexual,
and prays to rocks.
I do care where they have stood on these issues...how they have voted in the past on Bills
And if they face their critics with Truth or Lies
John
Massachusetts Action Group.
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Roberta
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:32 am EDT
I couldn't agree more. On that happy note, I'm off to bed!
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Taizy from Ireland
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:36 am EDT
I am off to pray to rocks......................... .............................. .............................. ...............rocks , rock
may there be little green men on monday..
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Laurie
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:36 am EDT
it is almost laughable if it wasnt so sad!
I am a white woman and live in the bible belt of missouri and am of the age they say are going for hillary ...and a republican.....
I voted for barack obama..... AN AMERICAN RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT! I mean what is all this about race and why?
he is african american and he is white american...he is not full blooded black nor full blooded white .... so I say ... goodness folks we finally have a good decent honest man, and AMERICAN ... that we can all be proud of running for president .... get over all the racist remarks and let move forward with the CHANGE THAT WE ALL DESERVE!
I AM ASHAMED LATELY OF BEING A WHITE AMERICAN...
BARACK OBAMA... YOU TAKE THAT WHITE HOUSE AND YOU MAKE IT AMERICAN.... IN ALL WAYS... HUGS ..
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Bob from Alexandria, VA
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:41 am EDT
Laurie,
Would you mind if Americans rename "White House" to Presidential Palace to shake off that racist connotations?
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Laurie
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:46 am EDT
LOL WELL NOW////// good question... how did the white house get the name? Was it because it was a big white house...????? or because it was representative in some other way toward race?
I believe that the white house could be called anything as long as we have a President in it that is working to change this country in a forward motion to help the homeless, the future homeless,and the poor, and the middle class. Our schools, our roads, our TROOPS, and most of all ... get this country on a moral ground again and let us be at least respected again in the world.. if we can get Obama in the big house doing all this he can call it whatever he wants to call it I am just praying he CALLS IT HOME FOR EIGHT YEARS!
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:56 am EDT
Laurie,
You are the type of American I visualize when I first step on America's soil. Since then, I've been quite disillusioned like most other people of color. I'm glad my visualized Americans still exists in the Laurie's of this land.
Now, my question and your surprise over the question is an immediate example why racial sensitivity is not a burden white folks face in this country. It is the same reasons why Michelle Obama said she has never been proud of America until Obama became front runner. This is a complex syndrome of color people in this social environment. Ever wonder why it is called "Great White Shark" when most of its body is actually grey?
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frstan
Mar 15th 2008 at 4:07 am EDT
Ray
Please don't perpetuate myths or HRC agitprop.
She said "For the first time in my adult life, I am really proud of America."
NOTE: ADULT LIFE
NOTE: REALLY == extremely
I cant blame you too much though: the MSM misquoted her 50 different ways, including playing the clip but dropping the volume momentarily so the word "really" wasn't audible.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 4:47 am EDT
I'm going to need to listen to it again, but I picked up the quote from an article which doesn't have the word "really" in it. It wouldn't surprise me if the "really" was omitted in the reporting of the quote.
Here's what bothers me about it, though: What Michelle Obama said the way she said it does not actually have a period after the word country. In speech it is a semi-colon. The sentence Michelle Obama spoke actually begins with "For the first time..." and ends with "...hungry for change." The last sentence of her statement supports this sentiment as well.
All of the media has reported her pause through the use of a period and from this her statement was cut short & mis-reported. All of the media has done this, and this is what it looks like in the press:
"For the first time in my adult lifetime, I'm proud of my country. And not just because Barack has done well, but because I think people are hungry for change. And I have been desperate to see our country moving in that direction. And just not feeling so alone in my frustration and disappointment I've seen people who are hungry to be unified around some basic, common issues and it's made me proud."
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Gary in Obamaville formerly of Crivitz, WI
Mar 15th 2008 at 5:50 am EDT
Twisted words...she said "really proud".
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Laurie
Mar 15th 2008 at 4:07 am EDT
Very Interesting Ray! I have to say that I have to agree with you that I as a White person in this country have never been in a position to defend myself because of my color!
I have to say that I always knew there was racism! I always understood that and have seen it in older generations of my own family! (ashamed of that)
But, until I became a supporter of Barack Obama
I have never felt the attacks..
I am sorry for how african americans have been treated in this country for years!
Now let me say this (without fear) that I do have
to ask why is it though that more and more african americans don't try to overcome now?
I mean I understand that this particular race has been treated badly in this country for years.. and years... and years... but for years now there has been alot more progress made in this area and I have to wonder sometimes if some african americans don't tend to keep their ownselves from progressing forward in this area themselves... ? does that make sense? I guess what I am saying is this.. (not being racist) I am clearly a mother that would never allow my daughter to wallow in self pity and let others hold her back .. so is it some that african american children have been told over and over that they can't achieve that keeps them down in ways or is it actually racism that keeps them down?.... I honestly am not being mean I am asking this out of my heart trying to understand what if anything I can do to change myself to make things better and with that I have to have a full understanding? make sense?
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Colorado Brother
Mar 15th 2008 at 11:19 am EDT
TROLL ALERT
The troll keeps using names that have the pattern
"X from So-and-So city"
A troll is someone who makes fake posts on a internet message board to confuse or anger people, and to tamper with people's feelings.
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California Grandma
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:51 pm EDT
Re "really proud":
The profile of Michelle on CNN, Anderson Cooper ,
last Thursday night had an unedited clip of the speech with REALLY proud. Wish we could get it out there.
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frstan
Mar 15th 2008 at 4:10 am EDT
Dont get paranoid. Its called The White House because it painted white -- cooler in the horrible pre-airconditioned Washington summers.
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Laurie
Mar 15th 2008 at 4:15 am EDT
that is what I thought! Painted white so called the White House! Nothing to do with race on this one...I am afraid that sometimes we have to realize ....all of us... that not everything is about race... I can say though it was an interesting question! lol .. hugs
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Bob from Alexandria, VA
Mar 15th 2008 at 4:27 am EDT
So, it is time to paint it off-white, e.g., multi-color. No more excuse to call it "white house". Most countries call theirs "Presidential Palace" and that is the most neutral and respectable name. America must change with its demographics and "white house" is an anachronism.
BTW, I'm not black nor minority. In fact, I'm just the majority of the world, being an American descended from the largest ethnic group in the world--the billion-strong Han Chinese. So, living in america and be called a minority is an uncomfortable feeling. If we paint it brown, would you feel uncomfortable calling it the "Brown House"? If yes, where's the paranoia, yellow peril?
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Laurie
Mar 15th 2008 at 4:32 am EDT
Ray for some reason Presidential Palace sounds funny to me... please don't take offense.. Because it is like we are putting royalty there or something... because we are the goverment we are... I am not pleased with Palace and making it like they are better than we are! I think that there could be a name but not palace.. lol.. just not palace!
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Bob from Alexandria, VA
Mar 15th 2008 at 4:41 am EDT
Laurie,
I could agree with your good sense. Being good with words, Obama (if he choose to) will come up with the right name.
There's lot of decay throughout America since the hawkish Republicans ruinuous reign. Obama won't be able to undo those damage in eight years. One of his most urgent tasks would be to put the right folks in the right place: the Justices, the policies to set course that will take more than 8 years of presidency.
Should we be worry about a Chelsea Clinton or Jeb Bush presidency in 8 years?
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John From Cape Cod. Ma
Mar 15th 2008 at 9:16 am EDT
I's vote to paint it green..myself
and add a rock garden instead of them roses that make me sneeze
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Laura in Tallahassee, FL
Mar 15th 2008 at 11:46 am EDT
The word "palace" implies royalty.
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Laura in Tallahassee, FL
Mar 15th 2008 at 11:41 am EDT
Never be ashamed of being white! Haven't we, as a society, preached to all minorities, do not be ashamed of who you are? Why should whites feel shame for the sins of forefathers generations ago?
There is this scholarly notion of "white guilt." White people have it when they are unable to clearly see the differences in ethnicities. People with white guilt mistake equality for sameness. They are, in fact, uncomfortable in their own white skins. Or, they become uncomfortable when they learn the truth of our unbalanced socio-economic ladder.
It's fine to be comfortable with whiteness. It's hardly the same as being comfortable with superiority. Let's not confuse the two.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:34 am EDT
REMEMBER, THIS TOO SHALL PASS. :)
I can't believe Barack will be in my state later on today! I haven't the slighest clue as to where Plainsfield is in Indiana though!...lol I'm in Fort Wayne(Northeast). I'm hoping he comes to Fort Wayne before our primary! It's an urban area that most definitely should go for him easily in May.
Hugs & Kisses,
Shavon
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Jan R in SC
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:46 am EDT
I thought that I had heard Obama himself was not going to be at the rally. Perhaps I am mistaken but if you are going you may want to double check.
Plainfield is a suburb of Indianapolis...just north of right off I65.
Hope you get to hear him!
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Amy
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:52 am EDT
that would be odd...
I heard earlier today on MSNBC that he would indeed be in IN on Saturday.
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MullerOhana: YES WE CAN, bitch.
Mar 15th 2008 at 4:24 am EDT
I think he's speaking in a gym that holds 2000 people. What's up with that? Hasn't he figured out he needs a 5-digit capacity venue? A 2000 person gymnasium is what I would expect for an HRC rally.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:17 pm EDT
This will be a town hall style presentation. A short speech and then plenty of time for questions.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:34 am EDT
I can honestly say that this is a completely obsurd insight into Mr. Obama. It has nothing to do with he himself. I just want people to please stop debating Obama and Clinton, and to make sure McCain does not have a chance. In addition, I'm glad that Mr. Obama has the support he deserves, as the candidate who can truly change the "system" as opposed just "playing the system" as I believe Clinton attempts. It's time for change!
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Ariel
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:39 am EDT
so, is barack holding a rally tomorrow?
anyone think we'll get 20,000 people in IN?
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:41 am EDT
It's probably a decent hour still in Hawaii. I am up sleepless in KS. I took a peek over at the Clinton site and was amazed. They had one really active blog started two days ago with maybe 150 entries, the last one being around 4:45 this past afternoon. Where ARE her supporters? How can they get anything done? WE have had THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS of entries in just one day and 150 since this blog got started in the middle of the night.
They say she has had some nice crowds in PA. I don't understand why these numbers are not routinely reported so when watching on TV we can know really just what kind of a response the candidates are generating.
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Amy
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:44 am EDT
yeah its so odd how dead it is over there.
I guess you can only post 'you go girl' so many times.
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Sharon~Independent for Obama
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:57 am EDT
LOL
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Mar 15th 2008 at 4:30 am EDT
I expect HRC to be happy "preaching to the choir" in PA for the next few weeks. Let her revel in her false sense of security. The more she surrounds herself with her die-hard uninformed supporters, the less she'll feel she needs to win over anyone else. She'll be spinning her wheels and getting nothing accomplished (except getting her ego stroked) for the next few weeks. I'm sure Barack is going to play this a little smarter.
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Sharon~Independent for Obama
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:56 am EDT
When HRC gets 2,000 attendees...they say she has a nice crowd. Sometimes she tries to stress loudly...how big the crowd is and that people are spilling over into the hallways. Yeah right, of course in a small capacity room...that's what she would say...to make it seem like she is getting huge crowds. At this point, you expect to hear her usual BS spin.
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Connie Obama (Not held hostage by polls or media)
Mar 15th 2008 at 12:47 pm EDT
Didn't you know? Even the MSM has said the hugh crowds are going where Bill speaks! HRC stays to smaller crowds & even the MSM said that they "crop" the pictures and move people up to make it seem like they're more folks wherever she speaks!
I went to her site also. Seemed like it was only a handful of the same bloggers posting over & over again. People may want to see him ( a former prez & much better speaker), but hopefully they'll remember how scandals dogged them from Ark. thru out the 8 yrs. in D.C.
THEY WON'T GET ANYTHING DONE IF SHE WINS BECAUSE THEY'LL BE SO BUSY FIGHTING THE MANY LEGAL ISSUES & SCANDALS THAT ARE NOW ON HOLD, JUST LIKE BEFORE!
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:38 am EDT
Please, stop making everyting about Christianity. Just because it's Christian doesn't make it right. Not that it makes it wrong; however, we need to stop asking "what's Christian," and start asking "what's right?"
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:49 am EDT
Good point. Hey, if that's your thing then that's your thing. It's all good. But know that Sean Hannity among others over at Fox News is always invoking his Faith and he's one of the most hateful people on the planet.
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Amy
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:51 am EDT
and I just want to say that, most people who watch Hannity and take him seriously....would never in a million years have voted for Barack.
So while Hannity has a listernship, those aren't exactly independents we're talking about.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:42 am EDT
I can't imagine how exhausted and emotionally drained Obama must feel right now with what he has gone through in the past 24 hours. I pray he's given the strength he needs.
I just made a donation. If we make donations right now (regardless of the amount) maybe it will send our message of support through this rough time.
YES WE CAN!
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Mar 15th 2008 at 11:53 am EDT
I agree. I've said this same thing to myself, if I'm tired of the Clinton Chaos theory of politics and the news media frenzy over our political system and the headhunting games from all sides, I just know Sen Obama is tried too. I think Senator Obama is someone we can all be proud of for accepting the call to present Americans a choice for CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN. Be strong and encourage each other, OBAMA supporters! Let's keep praying for President OBAMA's strength and endurance. (looking towards the future from INDIANA)
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:43 am EDT
This is the Hillary Clinton fraud
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Patrick from Los Angeles, CA
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:43 am EDT
Dear all,
I feel really upsed about the things that go on for the last couple of days. I swore I expected something else from Barack, when it comes to Wrights obsessed by the evil sentences.
This is not only about saying 'I disagree vehemently', it needs more to calm down critics and opponents. This answer, this response was not strong enough mr Barack. I am a big fan of this 'change - yes we can movement', but I'm not dumm and naive, thinking that as Marley sang 'everything's gonna be alright' just by some nice arranged Teleprompter explanation, that leaves too many questions open.
I know Barack, you want to be the prsident of all americans, but that doesn't mean that you should become slippery like an eel. Don't try to be everybodies darling. Distance your selfel not only from Wright`s words but from the person Wright is nowadays. We all are in changing processes, so with time people change. And if this change to the worse is Wrights beleif, you should say words like: ' I knew him when he....., but now 'and I am serious about this issue", but now I have to confront myself with the fact, that this former good man, became bad and full of hatred towards his fellow men, no matter what colour they have, they`re all americans.
Dear Barack, please show in a stronger way, that you are a person of a new way of seeing the past and you did overcome...
With love, from his heart.
God bless you, your family and all americans.
Patrick Dewayne
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Jeremy Sun
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:45 am EDT
Barack's message has always been about "unity". He is running for presidency not because he thinks it's his time, but because of the urgency of now. To restore America. Everyone who listens to him have no reason to doubt him. He has no motive to hate white people, or black people, or whatever. He is biracial himself.
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Amy
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:48 am EDT
exactly.
He grew up with his white grandparents and white mom.
Anybody who says he 'hates' white people doesn't have a clue.
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Laurie
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:55 am EDT
PATRICK? I am sorry but perhaps you need to listen to Barack Obama once again... how much more is he susposed to do... SPIT ON THE PASTOR? I mean come on ... what I love about Barack Obama is that he is not out there raising his voice and screaming (as does hillary and bill and mcCain on occasion) I like that he is firm, honest, tells it how he feels it and leaves it behind him and moves on! I am sorry that we are so used to fighting that we expect it anymore! I hope that I didnt misread your message but ... I felt that Obama fully seperated himself from his pastor.... AND said in every way that he disagreed and had never heard the minister talk this way before! oh well... on to the next attack in the news because this one will only last a few days and when barack obama doesn't go down in the dirt and fight they attack on something different! PROUD OF YOU OBAMA!
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JakeBarnes
Mar 15th 2008 at 4:04 am EDT
"SPIT ON THE PASTOR?" LOL!! (Sorry, I couldn't resist).
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Ariel
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:46 am EDT
i don't think we should be discounting PA.
if we get within 10 it's a win for us, but we should be starting on that now!
6 weeks, who knows, we could pull it to 2-3 and split the delegates.
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JakeBarnes
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:57 am EDT
Listen, I always believe in looking at the upside but this one is really stacked against us. Certainly we have to rally the troops in order to keep the numbers as close as possible but it's Very important that we set the correct expectations with the MSM so they don't give HRC too much credit for a victory when, after all, she starts 20 points ahead.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:52 am EDT
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Mar 15th 2008 at 4:37 am EDT
I'm detecting the same tone we had before Wisconsin. Come on people! The lesson learned after Wisconsin is the value of phone banking. You have to put some faith in your fellow man. We cannot write off Pennsylvania; that's something I would expect from Hillarians. Everyone deserves a chance to be informed and vote the way an informed person should. If we lose Pennsylvania, it won't be a matter of them letting us down, but us letting them down. I think deep down we all know the only people who dislike Obama are the ones who don't know the truth about him. We need to KEEP CALLING.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:43 am EDT
I just donated another $25.00 tonight even though I hadn't planned to.
Thank the MSM and trolls for goading me into it!
Obama'08
Yes, We can!
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Amy
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:49 am EDT
I love hearing how many of us have donated tonight!
This has really got us going :D
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Ian from Stevenson Ranch, CA
Mar 15th 2008 at 12:56 pm EDT
Sorry for spam..
Can someone please make this viral. I am sicking of watching MSM with this on the tip of my tongue, yet NO-ONE addresses it.
I am sick of Hillary spin.
RONALD REAGAN LOST PENNSYLVANIA IN THE PRMARIES BUT WON IN THE GENERAL ELECTION.
IN 2000 AL GORE WON NEW HAMPSHIRE IN THE PRIMARIES, BUT LOST IT TO G.W. BUSH. THE KICKER IS THAT BUSH LOST N.H. MISERABLY IN HIS PRIMARY CONTEST.
Ted Kennedy beat Jimmy Carter in the 1980 Pennsylvania primary, but it was Carter who won the nomination.
Secondly, Pennsylvania has not played a leading role in choosing a nominee in a quarter-century. Since 1984 the primaries were already wrapped up by time the dems got to Pennsylvania.
Finally, for Obama, potential swing states like Virginia and Colorado (or others) would essentially undo the damage of a possible Pennsylvania defeat in the GE.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:55 am EDT
I notice on these blogs that even OBama supporters do not know WE WON TEXAS
this is offical look at the obama US map on the official website.
Whys isn't this being covered in any news???
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Jade--Who Loves to Decorate Her Latte Cup With Flag Pins!
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:59 am EDT
So far, we ARE winning, yes. One of our fellow supporters, SaSa, actually called the Texas Democratic Party yesterday to ask them what was up. As far as they are concerned, while Obama is ahead in delegates, there is NO WINNER YET. I forget how much longer they said it would take to count votes, but their ruling is no winner yet. (They also told her the media is free to report in any way they wish.)
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Jamal - It's not Mr. Obama, It's President Obama!
Mar 15th 2008 at 4:09 am EDT
There are going to have the results March 29th
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Mar 15th 2008 at 4:30 am EDT
I read on a blog here that the texas votes were certified or whatever they do the other day. Obama then lit up texas on the map. Could anyone clarify what is going on?
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Kym from Pacific Palisades, CA
Mar 15th 2008 at 4:07 am EDT
MSM does mention it sometimes, but for some reason they seem to keep emphasizing the popular vote which HRC won. Kind of like Nevada, she won popular vote, but because of the districts Obama won, he was awarded more delegates. They love to let her control the spin!!! Although her "PA. is everything" and only "Big Blue States" count seem to be getting less traction... maybe MSM is growing tired of her toooooooo!!!!!!!!!!
k.b.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:47 am EDT
Barack, No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgement thou shalt condemn. Isaiah 54:17
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NO DRAMA, JUST OBAMA on bainbridge island WA
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:55 am EDT
Hey folks
I spent most of the evening on the last blog and what you missed is a lot of people sharing their experiences of racism against them, not in the past but now. These were in response to Pastor Wright's sermon, to give a context for his remarks. I was very moved and saddened to hear such stories. And my resolve was strengthened to be part of a movement that will bring people together in unity to heal this nation.
I love this prayer, thank you.
I donated tonight in honor of how Barack distanced himself from Pastor Wrights remarks, without destroying the dignity of a man who is like family to him.
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Change comes from the bottom up, especially if you have a cattle prod , ya hear me Blue Dogs!!!!
Mar 15th 2008 at 4:19 am EDT
I concur! That's exactly what happened when Bush was annointed the 2000 Presidency by the Supreme Court, instead of the rightful winner Al Gore. Karma! The Bush Administration has been disasterous from the word go. Nothing has gone right for them. I mean look at the "state of the Union."
I'm also disappointed that some U.S. citizens are still easily manipulated by the likes of Fox news and the rest of MSM. They are just as responsible for us being in Iraq, simply because they didn't ask the tough questions on behalf of the U.S. citizens, after all that's their main function. Reporting the important stories that will have great impact on ourlives and this country in general. Besides being biased about only reporting what Sen. Obama Surrogates say years earlier, they never report things that really matter, just sensationalism. For example... Blackwater???? I mean that is one of the most shocking stories to come out of the Iraq~tastrophy! Soldiers coming back from Iraq, having to suffer the subpar conditions at Walter Reed (sp), many are struggling with having to complete several tours of duty away from the family, missing out on their childrens development. And this Administration is paying Blackwater to operate as a military unit in Iraq [apparently they are the ones who have been killing many Iraqis]. They operate like the military and because they are not liable according to Condi Rice [idiot woman], the Iraqis see them as an extention of the military, thus putting OUR real soldiers at greater risk. That's a story I would like to see reported more, but hey 8 corporations own all of MSM so of course reporting on Minister Wright is a better "mass weapon of distraction." Now it's no surprise that many Republicans watch Fox, but now Democrats who are supporting Sen. Clinton are boosting their ratings. Shocking! Everyone knows that Fox news hates the Clintons; however, they're focused on Sen. Obama because he actually has a chance of beating McCain, and why Hillary's Dems can't see the obvious is beyond me.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:50 am EDT
The Latest Gallup National Daily Election Poll has Obama pulling away from Hillary, from a statistical tie to a 6 point margin, 50% to 44%. Wheee!
BTW, I love the earlier idea of donating copies of The Audacity of Hope to PA libraries!
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Jan R in SC
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:52 am EDT
Do you have that link?
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Mar 15th 2008 at 4:02 am EDT
Sure..
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Jan R in SC
Mar 15th 2008 at 4:23 am EDT
thanks!
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Tj from Willingboro, NJ
Mar 15th 2008 at 3:52 am EDT
These are the politics of guilt by association. The grotesque underbelly of politics in America. The same politics that has rendered America helpless in the 21st century.
Read my rant here
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:54 am EDT
No one who makes a sweeping statement like " I hate this country" or " damn the country" really means the country and everything about it. I probably said someting like " this country is evil for electing George Bush to a second term". If someone was standing next to me and pointed out the other people who voted against him, I probably would have changed my words.
People say things in anger they don't mean. I was helping to take care of my grandfather when he was sick and he told my father " that I hope he drops dead"- meaning me. He was feeling very badly at the time and apologized later. We all make mistakes.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:58 am EDT
Thanks Stan,
Your comment relates to what I said above
I spent most of the evening on the last blog and what you missed is a lot of people sharing their experiences of racism against them, not in the past but now. These were in response to Pastor Wright's sermon, to give a context for his remarks. I was very moved and saddened to hear such stories. And my resolve was strengthened to be part of a movement that will bring people together in unity to heal this nation.
I donated tonight in honor of how Barack distanced himself from Pastor Wrights remarks, without destroying the dignity of a man who is like family to him.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 10:22 am EDT
I think it is interesting that no one is really looking at what he is really saying. The words used are one thing the the point of his statements are not being evaluated. Did the US do the things that he said? Did we Bomb those places , did we through our actions cause the deaths of women and children (our justification for the actions does not matter, the results of our actions are at isssue here) I am not defending Wright, just asking the question to point to the loopside analysis of his statements and the meaning attributed to them. Does Hillary know what it means to be a black person/ minority in America, is her reality that of the majority of the American people, can she understand the realities the way Obama does?
Finally one the best points Obama made last night was that Wright speaks through the prism of his (Wrights) life experiences, which are different from Obama's. He (Wright) has not forgotten, and why should he? Obama rightfully acknowledges that he is a benefactor of those struggles that inform Wright's perspective of America.
I think he responded very WELL.
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Change comes from the bottom up, especially if you have a cattle prod , ya hear me Blue Dogs!!!!
Mar 15th 2008 at 4:33 am EDT
Ed Rendell participated in an event with Minister Farrakhan a few years ago, yet Tim Russert didn't bother to ask him about that when he had him on Meet the Press. After all Gov. Rendell endorsed Sen. Clinton and was on the show as a Surrogate for her campaign. Tim likes pulling old clips and footage, yet he appeared to have been suffering from amnesia that particular Sunday. See what I mean... they're hypocrits. Russert actually caught my attention when he was involved in the leak of the CIA agents name, remember? I wish a guest would turn the tables on him and ask how does he sleep knowing he helped to destroy that woman's career. Late night rant. I'm fine. ::inhale,exhale::
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:58 am EDT
Hi All,
Wish I knew you all were here through the night, I wouldn't have been wasting my time reading old posts from yesterday :-). Finally feel like I can get a little sleep after the horrendous news day. I was so glad to see Obama come out strong EVERYWHERE. No statement from his "campaign manager" or blaming his opponent. I don't even want to call it defending... I'll call it setting the record straight. We all know that Fox News will never be satisfied, and he did not snub them like other politician have. Talk about transparency. Honesty... hmmm... this is NEW WASHINGTON POLITICS, don't let anyone tell you differently. Won't be much left for him to be vetted about with regards to Clinton or McCain if he keeps this up. And unless Hillary gets really busy, she is going to still have a lot to answer for leading up to and during the debate April 19. Looking like she has a little too much to hide and she has still NEVER actually answered any question directly.
Could someone please post a link to the J. Wright sermon, The Audacity to Hope. I listened to it on politico. com for the first time. It is beautiful. Listen to the whole thing and you will hear that he actually did at one time preach positively... I don't know what happened to Wright's optimism and will not try to defend him. However, the Audacity sermon is inspirational and above reproach.
Thanks in advance for posting a link. I do not know how, but I think it will lift your spirits if you are feeling a bit low. Can someone tell me how I can do it myself in the future.
Thank you everyone for standing strong. Obama PROMISED that this was not going to be an easy fight... again he is true to his word.
Keep Believing, it will be worth it in the end.
Be the change you want to see in the world and good night,
K.B.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 4:03 am EDT
to post a link:
Copy and paste the url address into your comment. When you publish it will automatically come out as a link.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 4:14 am EDT
Making a link--copy the URL and paste it on the blog.
Step 1: To copy a URL, highlight it in your browser using your mouse and then hit Ctrl and C at the same time.
Step 2: Then, come back to the blog, and in the text box you're writing in, hit Ctrl and V at the same time. The URL you paste will automatically turn into a link after you post your comment.
Sorry if this insults your intelligence. I never assume what folks know about this kind of stuff, so I'm always detailed in an effort to help.
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Connie Obama (Not held hostage by polls or media)
Mar 15th 2008 at 1:12 pm EDT
Thanks so much. I'm computer literate but a bit behind (retired):-). I've been wanting to know how to do this so long as I have plenty of time to go onto all the sites & have found amazing facts about HRC! I knew what she was like but was still shocked!! I'd like to pass on to others!
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Mar 15th 2008 at 4:02 am EDT
Hi,
I just wanted to say that I am sorry Senator Obama is going through this. What his pastor says or feels has nothing to do with him. As Democrats we must stand united against these swift boat attacks. Personally, I feel there has been way to much negativity between our two campaigns. I happen to like and respect Barack Obama a great deal. I think he's inspiring and will make a great President one day. I hope it's in 2016 but hey that's just my preference :)
In all seriousness, I just wanted to lend my support to you guys on this one. Hillary has dealt with a lot of garbage from the right wing slime machine as well and it's not productive.
If Barack wins the nomination I will proudly give him both my vote and my full support. In my opinion...he's an incredibly talented politician and will get through this okay.
Good luck to you all and here's to a Democrat in the White House in 2009!
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Mar 15th 2008 at 4:04 am EDT
Thank you for your comments
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Mar 15th 2008 at 4:09 am EDT
Yes, thanks. We've been fighting folks (nice way to refer to trolls) here all day and night on this. Can't even imagine how tired Barack is.
Hopefully by Monday, both candidates will be back on the issues and off of race.
Best to you.
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NO DRAMA, JUST OBAMA on bainbridge island WA
Mar 15th 2008 at 4:09 am EDT
From one proud democrat to another:
I hope you will come and post here often. We need to begin building bridges between the two Democratic camps because we are all one family when we look toward November. I have been posting this idea here often. THANK YOU for coming here. I don't speak for everyone and you will probably get some guff, but I personally welcome you and your kind. You will notice there is room for disagreement here, and we try not to be disagreeable. But sometimes people get hot-headed. Anyway, thanks for stopping by. Have a virtual cookie! (Our Aunt B. made them:)
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Maryann in VA - The Times They Are A Changin'!
Mar 15th 2008 at 4:11 am EDT
Thank you so much!
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Proud Democrat
Mar 15th 2008 at 4:22 am EDT
I agree that we need bridges. It's getting too heated and I fear that at the current tone we won't have enough time to come together and focus on McCain. It's quite clear that half the party wants Barack and half the party wants Hillary. We need to campaign our hearts out in a positive way for the candidate we want and then support whichever one wins. Unfortunately, right now it seems there are many people in both camps who would rather see McCain b/c they are so vested. That would cede the SupremeCourt for decades! I don't trust th elephants and the only good I see out of this is that if Barack wins, at least it won't be an October surprise, which was my initial fear.
Why don't we stick to telling people why we support Barack/Hillary and leave the slime where it belongs - in the GOP!
The campaign started off so nice :(
I wouldn't mind a pledge from each to pick the other as VP if they win...hey what can I say...I'm an idealist :)
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HappyUniverse
Mar 15th 2008 at 4:15 am EDT
Thank you so much, proud! You're an exceptional democrat!
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☆ TengoEsperanza ☆ --- Love in Action
Mar 15th 2008 at 4:15 am EDT
Thanks so much, that is beautiful, Obama inspires me so much to see what I have in common with every person and I feel the love tonight on this thread, from my Obama Ohana & the whole world.
I know even the most controversial statements played today reflect the real pain of his experiences growing up in this country. It made me think of Frederick Douglass' speech "What to the Negro is the 4th of July?"
Then I thought of New Hampshire..."Yes we can heal this nation, Yes we can repair this world". The world has wounds, but this movement to striving to heal those wounds.
Much love everyone, and never lose heart.
Yes We Can!!!
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Mar 15th 2008 at 4:16 am EDT
This is awesome of you.
I too am pained by all of this and I just want everyone to get along.
Thanks for your kind words! :)
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MB in NYC
Mar 15th 2008 at 4:25 am EDT
Thank you so much for your post. This is the type of energy I have repeatedly encouraged on this blog. Hillary supporters are human beings and they believe in their candidate just as we believe in ours.
If we are going to heal this country, we will need to do it together.
Now mind you, after what I've seen, I probably won't be voting for Hillary ever again...but that doesn't mean I should disrespect or belittle her supporters.
Thanks again.
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SG
Mar 15th 2008 at 4:40 am EDT
Mike, I am sure it was a typo. You meant 2008, Right?
One Love!
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Lem Bray
Mar 15th 2008 at 4:59 am EDT
The silver lining. These things have all been vetted now instead of October.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 4:05 am EDT
YES WE CAN!
KEEP CALLING PENNSYLVANIA!
YES WE CAN!
STATE BY STATE, CROWD BY CROWD, PERSON BY PERSON,
YES WE CAN!
FIRED UP AND READY TO GO, FIRED UP AND READY TO VOTE!
YES WE CAN!
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Mar 15th 2008 at 4:07 am EDT
Yay, two night owls have donated to my page tonight--your messages touched my heart! Now I can sleep peacefully!
Hello My fellow night owls!
Please consider donating thru my page--those who do will dream of Inuaguration Day and then wake to realize it was NOT a dream...Barack Obama actually IS THE NEW President of the United States!!!
here's the link to sweet dreams----
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My family represents three generations of Women for Obama. Sen. Obama inspires me in so many ways. I admire his strength, compassion and integrity as well as that of our movement for unity.
I have set a fundraising goal of $787 thru my page, it is in honor of Barack's Kenyan Grandma. I got my 1st donation yesterday, it was such a great feeling, but even if you can't give money, please take time to visit my page to see my message of Hope and Unity.
Bless you all and thank you for reading.
Here is the link to my page---
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Thanks to y'all, I am about 15% of the way to my goal, I seriously think that is awesome...You all don't just lift my spirit, you make it soar!!!
Have a blessed night!
PS Barack's Grandma is watching and she is fired up too!
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NO DRAMA, JUST OBAMA on bainbridge island WA
Mar 15th 2008 at 4:10 am EDT
I just donated to you page. I love the beautiful picture of Barack and his African grandmother!
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Mar 15th 2008 at 4:24 am EDT
Night owl here too...but not quite fair since Alaska is 4 hours behind the east coast...just hoping our guy gets some rest this weekend and stays strong!! He's in my prayers!!
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☆ TengoEsperanza ☆ --- Love in Action
Mar 15th 2008 at 4:25 am EDT
Thanks for the donations so much!!!
I messed up on posting the links, so I will briefly try to again...
For Barack's grandma, for my grandma, for all grandmas and people who love their grandmas whether they're on Earth or in Heaven...
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Buenas noches, mis amigos!!!
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JazzmanEast
Mar 15th 2008 at 4:28 am EDT
Obama's been on the campaign for over a year. If anyone hasn't figured out who he is and what he stands for by now, they just haven't been paying attention - and that includes the media. It makes no difference what your friends, family or acquaintances say or do. It's what YOU say and do that matter.
Barack: you're the best we've got. Your decisiveness and forthrightness through this have said it all. Has anyone noticed that when McCain has a problem he acts too quickly and then has to redo it? And that when HRC has a problem she has to be badgered by the media and everyone else to even make a tepid admission? Barack is right on the first time.
Yes we can. And how!
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Mar 15th 2008 at 4:12 am EDT
I just donated $50.00 and then watched the "Yes We Can" video again for the umtenth time.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 4:12 am EDT
These are the politics of guilt by association. The grotesque underbelly of politics in America. The same politics that has rendered America helpless in the 21st century.
Read my rant here
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NO DRAMA, JUST OBAMA on bainbridge island WA
Mar 15th 2008 at 4:18 am EDT
No thanks, I have heard enough rants today.
I am going to bed, now.
My prayers go out to Barack and his family, may they be kept safe and healthy, and may they be granted piece of mind.
good night all and blessed be.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 4:13 am EDT
Today I had 3 separate people talk to me about their support of Obama, without me saying a word. First was a female I know from online. She saw the link in my profile to the Yes We Can video and wrote me that she was in tears after watching it and how much it moved her. She then went on to share that she lives in Pennsylvania and up til today hadn't decided who to vote for but the video inspired her so much and she so much feels the need for change that she made the choice to vote for Obama. She then shared the video with everyone she knows online!
A while later my former boss called to check on me. She had to eliminate my position a couple months ago because of finances. After the usual chitchat she said "Well I'm an Obama-mama now". I told her how involved I had been in the campaign and we talked about what his candidacy meant to both of us. She was impressed that I've used my time off work helping to further this cause. So count another 55+ female for our side!!!
And lastly a guy I know on an online game/virtual world messaged me to ask why the media was going so strongly with the Rev Wright thing. We talked about them trying to stop the momentum and throwing the kitchen sink. What's funny is most of the negative has pushed the people I know further in Obama's corner. When you think about it, if someone threw a kitchen sink at you it would back you up against the wall and the wall is Obama!!!!
So in spite of it all, he's still winning supporters with his message, his passion, and his ability to bring about change. He's already changing America!
YES WE CAN!!!
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Mar 15th 2008 at 4:23 am EDT
Great job. We'll do well in PA, trust me. We'll win the nomination, trust me. Tomorrow, everyone get back to calling, it's the most important part of the campaign. Tell voters why Barack is the choice to be the leader of this great country.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 6:58 am EDT
I sense from the public statements from the campaign that it might be better to downplay our chances in PA. As usual, HRC and Rendell will claim HRC's lead up until a couple of days before and then say that it is all up to Obama to win it.
The new emphasis on "there are ten more contests" is a way of not giving up on PA, but pointing out that PA is not the end of the campaigning. I am convinced that Obama will win the nomination - with or without PA. I think he will win the presidency - with or without PA.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 9:57 am EDT
Thats great to hear, thanks.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 4:13 am EDT
When a Sage speaks, people marvel. When a Manager speaks, people work. When a Leader speaks, people march.
Barrack Obama is all that, but he is no Kennedy, just better!
I most admire his precision in speech, his honesty, his toughness, his pragmatism, and I sense his compassion. Hilary? Well, she would burn down the Democratic Party to get into the Presidential Palace (aka "white" house).
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Mar 15th 2008 at 4:20 am EDT
It might be a "Palace" if HRC comes to occupy it. She seems quite "monarchial".
After 8 years of Bush destroying our Liberties bit by bit Id rather not have anything suggestive of an Imperial Presidency.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 4:25 am EDT
THE SAD THING ABOUT THE WHITE HOUSE IS; I heard on the radio the other day disc jockeys talking about it and they said that the west wing is in dire need of remodeling.. it has still the first air conditioning unit in it and only one.. and they have to keep it running all the time because they are afraid it won't start again.. they said it is really gone down hill and needs alot of work done to it! that the next president will probably have to spend around 250,000 just to fix it! well now if obama gets in there i see him doing it for 100,000 ....hillary? 200 million lol ... i mean good place to lose some of that money coming in illegally! lol
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Laurie
Mar 15th 2008 at 4:21 am EDT
agreed again Ray.... SHE WOULD DO ANYTHING TO GET IN THERE AGAIN! SHE SCARES ME TO MY TOES! ALWAYS HAS!
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Mar 15th 2008 at 4:29 am EDT
No monarchy in here. She can go reside at the gardens of Buckingham Palace. This White House belongs to OB.
Do we ever sleep on this blog.
We just love the guy. No ifs and buts or wright about him. Hes destined to be our leader in this difficult times. we need a leader among leaders and thats who he is.
OB all the way
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Mar 15th 2008 at 4:24 am EDT
did u guys see the video about obama childhood in Indonesia
i just found it on msnbc website
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it made me cry so hard at the end..his childhood friends are cheering for him...SO touching!!!
p.s. the video is to the right underneath the news about the minister leaving Obama campaign
**sniff sniff**
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Mar 15th 2008 at 5:32 am EDT
...THAT WAS NICE....talk about international relations...I sent it to EVERYBODY I know in the world...[well almost]
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Mar 15th 2008 at 4:25 am EDT
I have been SO stressed for Obama these last 48hrs.
I thought I was going to puke as I waited for him to do his interviews tonight. I was so worried.
This entire ordeal has made me realize just how much respect I have for this man. It pains me to see people trying to tear him down.
I hope everyone can just refocus now and stop fretting. I hate seeing Obama supporters freaking out about things. Stay strong everyone.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 4:26 am EDT
Please let your uncle know I am not rich, and although I am white - I grew up poor as dirt, and I do not control anything, and I never did. I am 32 years old, and did nothing to no one, and would appreciate uncle stop trying to make people hate me - I am just a working person in a small family, trying to make it, struggling, nothing has been handed to me because of my race, and I don't expect anything except to be treated fairly - do unto others - that is what I believe. I don't talk about people I never met like uncle did - referring to all people of a race - and don't think he should talk about me or my family in that way - we are just poor people trying to make it, just like everyone else. I am sorry if I am not supposed to post my feelings in this blog - but this could be my president, and I want him to know how I feel, and I was very supportive of him, but now I am not so sure, because I am wandering what he really thinks of me. I am sure I speak for a lot of people. I'm not interested in what he says now to be elected, I am interested in how he really feels. I believe we should try to be like Jesus and love everybody, and I try to love everybody - but knowing someone may hate me because I was born a certain color - well - I try to love everybody just liek Jesus. I am sure my message will get deleted - because no one wants to hear how I feel anyway - so goodnight and God Bless.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 4:33 am EDT
Are u HRC supporter??
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Henry
Mar 15th 2008 at 4:36 am EDT
Ignore this guy.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 5:24 am EDT
Ignore this guy.
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MB in NYC
Mar 15th 2008 at 4:36 am EDT
I don't know the guy, he is not my uncle, but I'm more than sure that he didn't mean you. Hateful people can make people so angry that they rant in anger. I have seen it on here and now you've scene snapshots in that Rev's surmons.
I hope he can come out soon and tell Americans this. I trust that Obama would not be following someone whose message was hatred. They were probably taken out of context or they were a human mistake.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 5:17 am EDT
I'm not sure which post you refer to but I can tell you this, Obama doesnt hate you. Read his biography although I'm sure you know his background. His mom was white and he was raised by his white grandparents. How could he hate white people? Or black people for that matter? He's probably the only candidate that has ever brought both sides of America to the table with him. Focus on Obama's message, research his views, check out his fact sheet. Let him speak for him.
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Charmona who is a believer in the ground game
Mar 15th 2008 at 6:49 am EDT
In his 30 plus years has BO ever said in a speech, written in an article or book anything that preached or spoke hate? He is not his pastor!!! I believe that the way BO describe it as a generational gap is so accurate for the black community. BO probably listened to the preaching of pastor Wright and heard his anger and frustration at times but BO believed that hey, I hear where he is coming from but I will have a different approach to dealing with the healing that this country needs. I will try to bring folks together to dialogue and heal. The pulpit is how Rev. Wright does it, and political leadership is how BO does it. He is black but the black point of you is not how you heal. You have to be empathetic to all. That is our BO. He has never said or written anything to the contrary. Please trust in your first thoughts and why you liked BO in the first place. You have not made a mistake.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 8:37 am EDT
Rob... do not forget about Barack's mom who he deeply loved, and his grandfather who also he loved so very much. Do you know that Barack grew up in Hawaii in a little apartment with his grandparents.His grandmother still lives there. She is the only parent figure who raised him that is still alive. They were not rich - and they were white, too. Do not forget who HE is and what HE believes. There is not a white America and a black America - There is the UNITED STATES of AMERICA..."
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Mar 15th 2008 at 4:26 am EDT
I watched the newly installed pastor on Cnn tonight and he came across as fairly militant. Is there any reasonable dignified way that Barack and his family can join a church that does not involve itself in politics and is more moderate in tone?
I personally dont care about the old pastor or the new one....I actually feel alot of Wrights comments were true but highly emotional. Its a tough decision to leave a church in which you have been invested for many years, but it might have to go in the interests of damage control. I'm not sure how the black voters would react to this, or whether it would mollify some whites who have been scared. Any comments?
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Raf who support Obama for the future of America
Mar 15th 2008 at 4:32 am EDT
Are u HRC supporter??
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JFyfe
Mar 15th 2008 at 4:42 am EDT
Thats insulting. It is starting to get boring on this site that if you suggest something new then you are labelled. That is Moonie - like, and unattractive. I suppose that if you actually want to think and discuss political ideas then perhaps this isnt the right site. I have made it clear numerous times that I am a strong supporter of Obama. By the way, the combination of religion and politics is very dangerous as we have seen on the right. Its called separation of church and state. Some of us believe in this concept.
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MB in NYC
Mar 15th 2008 at 4:48 am EDT
Yes I agree...and that is why I don't understand why you think where he worships is anybody's business. Wow...take a moment and think about what you are suggesting. Think of where thoughts like that could ultimately lead this country.
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JFyfe
Mar 15th 2008 at 4:51 am EDT
It isnt anyones business, but his political enemies are making it their business and the electorates business. Just beacause it isnt right doesnt make it not reality. Campaigns have to deal in reality not how they would like the world to be.
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MB in NYC
Mar 15th 2008 at 4:57 am EDT
But are we about change? about unity? about tolerance? Or are we solely about getting elected. If all we want is an election than I mind as well vote for Hillary and go to bed.
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Phil from Canada
Mar 15th 2008 at 4:49 am EDT
"By the way, the combination of religion and politics is very dangerous as we have seen on the right. Its called separation of church and state. "
I absolutely agree. I hate how every preacher seems to want to get their mitts into politics (ok, maybe not EVERY one, but there's sure a lot).
Philosophically, faith is an individual value transcends state; practically, the state puts your kids to school, food on your table, and defends you against agressors foreign and domestic. So keep 'em apart. Reconciling the two is a whole lot of heartache.
By the way, I did immediately flinch at the suggestion that you might be an HRC supporter. I'm sure it's just because tensions are a little bit high tonight... please don't take offense to it :)
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Mar 15th 2008 at 4:34 am EDT
the irony of it all is that the church is full of white people who didnt take offence and continue to go that church. dont know why they stressing this. is it just to offer something to balance out the Gerry Ferraro saga? one one, I guess. hahaha
we are resolute at this time. NO hopemonger is moving cos of this stories. we are more determined than never before. thats what hope does. standing tall in the midst of adversity
OB all the way.
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Phil from Canada
Mar 15th 2008 at 4:57 am EDT
Oh, the ironies and the hypocracy is remarkable!
The suggestion that this would somehow "irreparably damage the campaign" is almost funny. It's like, every time someone who Barack knows says something contraversial, the media lines up to say, "Oh, look, he's got BAD friends!"
I wish people would just get over this "he knew someone who said something" bit.
You know, they replayed AC360 clip of Barack (in which I thought he was excellent) for hours on end, and spent like, 45 minutes on the tornado that went through downtown Atlanta.
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Laurie
Mar 15th 2008 at 4:35 am EDT
it is not your place to select his pastor... We all find our christian church homes for many different reasons.. some love the pastor ... some love the people... some love the children's ministry... no one agrees with everything about their church... I DON'T CARE WHERE HE GOES AS LONG AS HE BELIEVES IN JESUS... AND HE GOES ...
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Phil from Canada
Mar 15th 2008 at 4:39 am EDT
I thought that the fellow was pretty decent. It's actually a tough gig being a pastor these days. You have to engage an increasingly secular audience; church attendance all across North America has dropped dramatically in the last few decades.
I don't agree with some of what he said, but that's ok... I'm about as un-religious as they come, and we can disagree but still be agreeable, right? :)
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Mar 15th 2008 at 4:44 am EDT
By the way, I posted this earlier, but here it is again. It's my viewpoint on how this whole thing will play out:
Timing is everything. Rezco and Wright are probably the two biggest thorns in the campaign. First, to put things in perspective, these are very small thorns relative to other stuff that other candidates have to deal with. Among other things, Barack didn't do anything wrong in either case.
They only seem relatively prominent because Obama is a pretty clean, very sincere sort of guy. There's really no credible "dirt" on him, and America is not yet ready to believe that it's possible for a politician not to have skeletons in their closet.
This is the best time to let it all out and deal with it. Get it over during a weekend news cycle, with the big basketball event and all that.
Besides, it's not really all that bad:
1) The people who wouldn't vote for Barack based on 30 seconds of wacky stuff from the preacher of his church wouldn't have voted for him anyhow.
2) Nobody that was already committed to supporting Barack would change their mind based on either the Rezco or the Wright stuff.
3) A lot more people now know that Barack is not a Muslim. (Sad, huh?)
4) This probably did not hurt the AA vote at all.
5) This probably did not hurt the youth vote at all; the generation that is today 18-29 and 30-40 is a whole lot less religious than the generation of their parents and grandparents, and many people of these generations tend to laugh at the big puffy sermons rather than take offense to them.
Personally, I know that when I hear Hagee say something anti-semetic or anti-catholic, the last thing I think of is, "I'd never vote for someone in HIS congregation". LOL.
6) This probably didn't help the 50+ religious white vote any, but HRC has this demographic pretty well locked up for the primary; they just identify with her better. During the Primary, it's about identity politics. During the GE, however, the issues of healthcare, social security, the economy and Iraq will bring those voters to the Democratic party.
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JFyfe
Mar 15th 2008 at 4:48 am EDT
Thank you for an intelligent response:)
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Mar 15th 2008 at 4:52 am EDT
Very welcome... and thank you for an intelligent point for discussion.
Late night is good, because there aren't 15 new posts every time you hit "Publish".
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Lem Bray
Mar 15th 2008 at 5:05 am EDT
Not to mention it is better to deal with these items now. You know they would be swiftboat items in October if we didn't. And will probably still be but with a lot less effect.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 4:54 am EDT
It might surprise you to know that some of us don't even care if he is religious or not. We are secular people.
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MB in NYC
Mar 15th 2008 at 5:04 am EDT
I hear you. And maybe thats why you don't understand. Giving up your church to improve your image is sort of like turning your back on your child just to get elected. Not like changing schools. Church is like family to religious people.
Don't get me wrong....I don't go to church. But once I was moved and I know how deep that feeling goes.
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MB in NYC
Mar 15th 2008 at 4:43 am EDT
I would hope that Barack and Michelle follow their hearts instead of doing things solely because people thought that would get them elected. He's been a member there for 20 years. The place that taught him the Audacity to Hope. That was his moral compass---this man that clearly wants to bring all of us together....or do you think he's lying when he says that?
No. Enough of this denounce, reject, turn your back on....hugging Hillary because the bloggers thought it would go over well.
I hope Barack will just continue to be who he is. Because that is the man that America fell in love with.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 4:48 am EDT
I actually believe Hannity has crossed a line. How dare he ask someone to change their place of worship because of what the former Minister said. Hannity is a hateful Ass Clown, period!!!! Did anyone see the youtube footage the Ron Paul supporters chasing after his scary butt, he ran like there was a fire somewhere, quite hilarious.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 5:01 am EDT
Hannity was disgusting. Most offensive to me was his comment that Barack should resign from the Senate over this. Patently ridiculous. Sean Hannity is one of the meanest people with way too much air time on Faux & other venues. At least Coombes tried to do the comparison with McCain and his right wing religious supporters who are a very scarey bunch.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 5:25 am EDT
PAST V FUTURE
If you had grown up poor & black on the South Side of Chicago in the 1930s you might have some quirks that manifested in "weird" ways from time to time, also. A lot of Wright's message had been based on "We cant wait for the white mans justice, we cant wait on the white mans charity to solve our problems. We have to help ourselves, we have to help each other." Considering the fact that a good deal of the "Wellfare" establishment was not intended to help the poor out of poverty but to provide well paying jobs for the children of the white upper middle class, this message had some point.
But the point I wanted to make is:
Dr Wright, now retired === The Past
Rev Otis Moss now in charge === The Future
Rev Moss was chosen by that congregation itself. If you want some measure of the change that has taken place look at this difference. If you want to "weigh" that congregation, go by its actions, and its intentions as shown by its choice of Rev Moss.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 6:58 am EDT
The thing is we should reframe from going to the fox news site to post anything. We should not do any surveys or polls. Why? You are only increasing their ratings. We should not repeat any fox news crap on this site. We should not turn the TV to fox news. We only want to go forward with positive news and feedback. Barack have responded, now let us go forward with our campaign. Fox news is a republican station that is trying to do everything to demolish Barack. The republicans would rather run against HRC. We should be aware that this campaign is only starting to get ugly. It is good that Barack responded. HRC can't even begin to undo her scandals. The republicans will have a field day will they start to attack her. Barack won't go their, but the republicans will.
BAND FOX NEWS. Let’s stay focus on our campaign. BARACK ‘08
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Mar 15th 2008 at 5:30 am EDT
How exactly did the new pastor come off as "militant?"
There's a whiff of racial prejudice to this whole thing that kind of disturbs me. Lots of white politicians attend churches where white pastors make incendiary comments. But for some reason, the public doesn't seem to care nearly as much as they care about Obama and his pastor.
From my understanding, a pastor's job isn't to tell you how to think but to challenge conventional thought and challenge you to live a better life. Pastors often say things for effect that are not meant to be taken literally.
I don't think Pastor Wright truly wanted God to "damn America." He was trying to make a point about social injustice. Did he make it clumsily? Yes. Was his rhetoric a bit much? Absolutely. But the underlying point was that America is not perfect, and it's wrong for Christians to mindlessly decry, "God bless America" without taking a look at the great inequality and injustice that still exists in this country.
I really think too much has been made of this. Pastor Wright is a bit over the top, but to define the man and his beliefs by a minute of footage taken from 30+ years of preaching is unfair.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 1:37 pm EDT
DON'T JUMP ON ME! But I'm going with Jyfe on this one to a degree. First, no one should have to leave their church or religion to win a presidency! Those who a Believers know that it is your own relationship with God that you are responsible for, and no one else!
Your spiritual adviser does not necessarily have to be your pastor! Given the present firestorm I don't think BHO needs another "advisor" who appears quite firey himself. Unfortunately, as someone else pointed out, some preachers do like to be in spotlight & I do a potential danger here for BHO, given the racial divide in this country!
BHO has every right to have an advisor but I think this isn't the one.
You know the MSM is going to be camped out in this church every Sunday from now on (probably for the first time for some of them in years). How long do you think it'll be before Rev. Moss makes a controversial statement that'll be on MSM before you can lock the church doors?
I'm an avid supporter of BHO, voted for hiim in Virginia, have almost reached the max in contributions,written letters to major editors & have & will continue to do all I can to help him
get elected! Most importantly, I pray for him each & everyday! Let's keep open minds & "play nice".
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Mar 15th 2008 at 4:41 am EDT
We want the change he proposes. We need it and he cannot quit! We are winning and we can win.
It was never promised to be easy to change the country. We are willing to work for this too. We propose an organization of the movement on April 12, 2008 to unite the people of this country in one movement. Let this be the biggest rally we ve we can make the change. Yes we can!
have ever had. One that broadcast to the world a message by seeing millions of people out in our cities on the same day rallied behind our candidate, regardless of what the media says, or other campaigns say they will have to take notice. Give us the opportunity to have our multi-million people/multi-city march simultaneously. Let Barrack speak to us all at the same time, at one time by satellite, video, radio. Let this be a world movement.
We are tired of watching the media slowly assassinate our candidate, perform Hi-Tech lynchings etc… I’m not even sure people all over the country are aware that Obama is Half White. Does that not account for anything to racist America? Aside from all of that, if they don’t want to believe we have won more states, won more delegates and the popular vote, we are prepared to show them by coming out again. Let the world recognize the people will rally together for truth and what is right to change this country for the good. No more bigotry, negativity etc… This can be a march like no other bigger than the million man or million family or whatever it was.
The people want to do something. There are many of us of all races that rally together, this is not a racial issue to us. It is about being one voice, one family, one nation.
On April 12, 2008 Americans all over the country can stand-up for change. We will stand together in cities across the country for change to make our voices heard, just like hands across America did. The world will hear us and the media will cover it as we impact America. We will be one voice, one people, united together as Americans that believe in this country's ability to provide true equality and economic feasibility for each and every American, regardless of gender, race, religion or ancestry.
will you be there?
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Mar 15th 2008 at 4:51 am EDT
Count me in!!!
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Mar 15th 2008 at 7:42 am EDT
Great idea!
You know what also would be awesome, I have the following idea:
Obama has the youth, we know that.
Now what demographic group loves to see youth ?
... right Grannies & Grandpa's... 65+
so click what about the following:
Instead of walking alone or with friends to cast your vote why not try to help some eldery to cast their vote ?
Volunteer to help elderly cast their vote:
Walk with them, help them cross the road,
and above all be nice to them even if they support another candidate. just a thought but I think this could be powerful!
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Change comes from the bottom up, especially if you have a cattle prod , ya hear me Blue Dogs!!!!
Mar 15th 2008 at 4:44 am EDT
Keep in mind this is the same Fox News that was extremely angry because CBS suspended Don Imus show. Anderson Cooper kept polling whomever the guest was on his show, even if they were there for a different topic, he would ask them to weigh in on Imus firing like he was trying to get a consensus that Imus was wronged... Yep Mr. Anderson "I'm above it all" Cooper. And remember Imus was fired because of what he said not a friend or Minister!!!! They are all just hypocrits! And anyone falling for this is looking for an excuse to not deal with the fact that when sized up against Sen. Clinton or Sen. McCain, Sen. Obama is just a far superior Candidate. He's run the best campaign EVER!!! As a matter of fact, anyone running for a National office will be using examples for his play book.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 4:49 am EDT
well it is almost 4 am ... this woman is going to put herself to bed! see all of you again tommorrow.. hopefully we can just get back to the days of hope and peace....
call,
donate,
canvass
and tell everyone you meet that you love obama...
God Bless you all...
hugs and goodnight.....(or good morning lol)
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Mar 15th 2008 at 5:07 am EDT
Sleep tight!
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Obamamaniac Jim B - Don't stand in the doorway - Don't block up the hall
Mar 15th 2008 at 4:51 am EDT
Not all the.negative posts in the previous blog were trolls. There were some supporters that were distressed, in particular regarding wrights 911 remarks.
we need to show some support to those who are concerned.
many people find it hard to consider the USA taking any blame for others being antagonistic towards us.
We need to reasure them that Barack is able to listen to all sides but that doesn't mean he agrees.a good leader does not shut out a voice even if it may be in oppsition to your beliefs.
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Phil from Canada
Mar 15th 2008 at 5:05 am EDT
Yes, well said.
Those supporters should be reminded that Barack has ALWAYS been an advocate of finding those responsible (ie Al Quaeda in AFGHANISTAN) and ending their reign of terror.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 4:51 am EDT
MUST READ!
pelosi clearly states that the superdelegates should nominate the candidate with the most pledged delegates and not the popular vote candidate!!!!!!!!
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THIS IS THE BEST NEWS SO FAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THIS IS AS CLOSE WE WILL COME TO A PELOSI ENDORSEMENT!!!
YES WE CAN!!!!
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☆ TengoEsperanza ☆ --- Love in Action
Mar 15th 2008 at 6:01 am EDT
i saw a video on youtube of Pelosi in Iowa before the caucus. She introduced Obama as "the next president of the United States". She is so clearly stands with us, I am 100% sure.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 6:48 am EDT
She introduced every Democratic candidate that way
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Mar 15th 2008 at 6:02 am EDT
I think it is quite clear that Pelosi has had her fill of HRC's crap.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 4:51 am EDT
I've had my Obama for President yard sign out now the last 2 days. Glad Obama is visiting Indiana, wish I could go see him.
Obama's pastors words were essentially the truth, he just has a controversial way of delivering it :)
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Mar 15th 2008 at 5:04 am EDT
I agree, this whole thing is a lot of nonsence i have been to a cathloic a church for years and heard a lot worse...America is not perfect, but if you point out our shortcomings your labeled in this country as unpatrotic or a terroist.
You have to say them in a very careful way
I'm also tired of all this musslim fear too, are we not suppose to have freedom of religon?
Obama '08
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☆ TengoEsperanza ☆ --- Love in Action
Mar 15th 2008 at 4:59 am EDT
After the events of the last 24 hrs, something made me laugh out loud, I know it's dumb, but it made me laugh...
On the front page of Yahoo news I saw the two headlines:
Obama denounces pastor's 9/11 comments
Call girl laments use of exotic photos
And my sleep-deprived brain combined the two and I thought I read:
Obama girl denounces...
And then, I thought, what's she weighing in for? She didn't even vote!...Then I realized my mistake, and laughed at my scrambled egg-brain.
D'oh!!
Sweet dreams, everyone!
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Mar 15th 2008 at 5:00 am EDT
The media has continues to mis-represent Michelle Obama's statement about being proud of her country. It starts with one source, then they all follow suit.
What Michelle Obama said the way she said it does not actually have a period after the word country. In speech it is a semi-colon. The sentence Michelle Obama spoke actually begins with "For the first time..." and ends with "...hungry for change." The last sentence of her statement supports this sentiment as well.
All of the media has reported her pause through the use of a period and from this her statement was cut short & mis-reported. All of the media has done this, and this is what it looks like in the press:
"For the first time in my adult lifetime, I'm proud of my country. And not just because Barack has done well, but because I think people are hungry for change. And I have been desperate to see our country moving in that direction. And just not feeling so alone in my frustration and disappointment I've seen people who are hungry to be unified around some basic, common issues and it's made me proud."
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Mar 15th 2008 at 5:08 am EDT
It's been a stressful week. We will make it through. We have a great candidate and leader. So just listen to this
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It will soothe your nerves. (It's Barry White..Love's Theme, great for late night blogging lol)
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Mar 15th 2008 at 5:24 am EDT
QuickVote on cnn.com asks whether Obama is doing enough to distance himself from Rev. Wright. Go there and vote now!
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MJ
Mar 15th 2008 at 5:31 am EDT
we are up by 51%..get over there and vote.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 5:37 am EDT
I think those ppl who voted "no" are crazy. Obama has done everything to explain, reject and distance himself from Pastor Wright.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 7:00 am EDT
Stay away from fox!!!!
The thing is we should reframe from going to the fox news site to post anything. We should not do any surveys or polls. Why? You are only increasing their ratings. We should not repeat any fox news crap on this site. We should not turn the TV to fox news. We only want to go forward with positive news and feedback. Barack have responded, now let us go forward with our campaign. Fox news is a republican station that is trying to do everything to demolish Barack. The republicans would rather run against HRC. We should be aware that this campaign is only starting to get ugly. It is good that Barack responded. HRC can't even begin to undo her scandals. The republicans will have a field day will they start to attack her. Barack won't go their, but the republicans will.
BAND FOX NEWS. Let’s stay focus on our campaign. BARACK ‘08
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Mar 15th 2008 at 5:38 am EDT
voted
The deadline for Pennsylvania Obama Independents re-registering as Democrats so they can vote in the April Primary is MARCH 24.
in calling Ive found 5 of 6 dont know the deadline is so close.
PLEASE MAKE PENNSYLVANIA CALLS as much as you can right up to and on the 24th.
The "Rush Limbaugh Republicans" are registering as Democrats to vote for HRC to cause us trouble.
DONT LET THEM GET AWAY WITH IT.
MAKE CALLS. Get the Obama Independents to register!
Would some one (or better many ones) please repeat this message for me all morning. Ill be back around noon.
nyte all :D
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Mar 15th 2008 at 5:29 am EDT
The Hillary campaign has now resorted to rounding up high dollar donors and cajoling them to participate in a truly shameless strategy. HRC donors are demanding that the DNC seat the Florida delegates, or else they want the DNC to return all of their donations. Some will accept a re-vote, others are demanding that the delegates be seated as-is.
This is not a small thing (well, the behavior is small, but the donations are not). We're talking about high dollar donors. And we're talking about donations to the DNC. Think about this for a second. The DNC is supposed to be an organization that represents all of the democrats, and these donations are supposed to support all Democrats -- not just HRC. Yet, they are demanding that the DNC break its own rules in favor of HRC, "or else" they want a refund.
This is a terrible precedent to set. I cannot recall any other major candidate ever deigning to extort either party by demanding preferential treatment in exchange for keeping what it has already been given.
What kind of future will this party have if candidates all over America begin trying to force their will on the DNC and use their donor base to exert pressure?
It looks to me like HRC is figures that either she'll steal the election, or she'll sabotage it. If she can't have it, nobody can. So, maybe we need to donate more to the Obama campaign to make sure that we've got plenty of money for the general election.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 5:44 am EDT
Just call their bluff and give them their money back DNC. No big deal.
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Connie Obama (Not held hostage by polls or media)
Mar 15th 2008 at 2:02 pm EDT
Thanks for this latest example of HRC's donor and election fraud! You know one of her top accountants quit on Thurs./Fri. because the donaters over there were exceeding the max. When she brought this to their attention she said she was asked to keep quiet. In addition, they charged her card for an additional donation she did not authorize and didn't give it back until she threatened to go to the police!!
After talking with an advisor she was told she'd better file this with the police, which she did & promptly quit!! (BTW, they then gave her her money back, but not the unauthorized $400 charge!
THIS IS WHY WE HAVE TO KEEP PUSHING FOR THE NUMBERS. NUMBERS WILL MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR THE SUPER DELS. TO "SELL OUT" OR OTHERWISE HAND HER THE NOMINATION!!!
Well, I never....is there anything they won't do?
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Mar 15th 2008 at 5:31 am EDT
I'm an artist and have made some jewelry that combines the Obama icon, take a look! all profits will go to the campaign.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 5:37 am EDT
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Issues Vs. minister |
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Mar 15th 2008 at 5:38 am EDT
Those crazy republicans are soooooooo good at changing the subject.
Gas = $4.00 a gallon
Economy = slow down
Market = tanking
So what do we get..let's smear Barack Obama on his minister.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 5:41 am EDT
Today’s Breakfast Special:
Golden Crisp
with Twinkies, Glazed Donut, Skittles, and Pepsi
Fired Up, Ready To Go!
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MJ
Mar 15th 2008 at 5:42 am EDT
Love it!
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Mar 15th 2008 at 5:53 am EDT
brrrrp ... ah, delicioso!
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Tracy in CT
Mar 15th 2008 at 8:15 am EDT
Does anyone else have a tummy ache now? =)
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Mar 15th 2008 at 6:24 am EDT
Umm.. do you mean "Sugared Up and ready To Go?"
B-)
In Hope and in Peace,
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Mar 15th 2008 at 5:41 am EDT
Please support BO and vote at CNN.com on the quick vote.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 5:43 am EDT
Done!
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Mar 15th 2008 at 5:47 am EDT
Yikes, it is at 50/50..go VOTE
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Mar 15th 2008 at 5:50 am EDT
I think the Obama store should sell hats like these, only with a big O on them:
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I gotta get one asap!
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Mar 15th 2008 at 5:51 am EDT
I love you Barack Obama!
The media could never change the way I feel about you or the man that you are! I am not a sheep being led to the slaugher. I have a brain of my own, and I know what I have heard and what I feel!
I know this is the best candidate this country has had in decades, and that we need him now even more, when others in power are so scared of him, that they try to get rid of him in any way possible!
I admire him, and would want my sons to be just like him. Inteligent, compashinate, and insporational!
Dont let them get to you Barack. We are with you for the long Haul no matter what!
One thing that went through my head all night was maybe you could put together a bunch of clips of this guy Wright showing him praising all people, and being compashinate like you. Maybe some clips where he is praising whites to take the edge off the other comments..
Then they cant just reduce hs life's work to 5 thirth second clips!
I'm with you until the end my man!
We all Love you, and are on this journey with you togethr!
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Mar 15th 2008 at 6:11 am EDT
3rd
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Mar 15th 2008 at 6:11 am EDT
Third! (not American but, believe me, I love him just as much... happy to see that you guys understand how lucky you are to have the opportunity to vote for this incredible man)
aaand.... he loves you back!
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Mar 15th 2008 at 6:13 am EDT
Ok, I'm 4th!
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Mar 15th 2008 at 5:58 am EDT
Wall Street Journal features Ms. Penny Pritzker, finance chairwoman for Barack Obama's campaign:
"Billionaire Penny Pritzker raises record amounts of cash for Obama"
Worth a read!
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Jules
Mar 15th 2008 at 8:14 am EDT
Once again, a case of judgement. He knows who to hire in positions of great authority. Thanks for the link !
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Carol in MN
Mar 15th 2008 at 11:26 am EDT
Oooohhhh, thanks for the link. The following bit gave me (good) chills:
In early 2007, Ms. Pritzker says, she had a hunch that Sen. Obama was about ask her to become chairman of his finance operation. She was running four companies, serving on numerous charities, and helping to raise her teenage son and daughter. She didn't think she had the time for a presidential campaign. She called her husband and told him that if she were offered the job, she planned to turn it down.
"He said, 'Come home. We need to talk about this before you decide,' " she recalls.
In the kitchen of their Lincoln Park home, Mr. Traubert started banging on a wooden door. "This is the country knocking," he told her. "You have to figure out a way to do this. I will support you in whatever way you need."
wow
The country is knocking.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 6:00 am EDT
I know Barack said "change would not be easy", but this is ridiculous! Last night's news shows was a lynching. I don't know how Hillary sleeps at night. I am hoping that good will win out over evil and we will still be victorious. I am sick of the smut. When will someone step in and put an end to this madness. It's disgusting. Barack Obama is a good and decent man, he never said he was perfect. I am still behind him 100%.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 6:04 am EDT
i am a Obama supporter, but i must say, we might lost this election now, them comments and speeches came out about Paster Wright, just might seal the deal for Hillary Clinton because people across the nation sayin, "Barack Obama been knowing all this time what this man sayin and he still going 2 this fool's church".DAM!and We almost made it in the White House. some advice Senator Obama; "clean up ya house b4 u show it". now u have these Republicans and Hillary folks going to used this s@#@ to play the race card, the anti american card the muslim card and the whole dam kitchen sink at him. Romalo
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Aleksi
Mar 15th 2008 at 6:23 am EDT
??? what you mean by this??
good morning to all...
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Romalo
Mar 15th 2008 at 6:36 am EDT
Everybody knows they are always tryin 2 find somethin on a brotha, they just been diggin, and diggin, now they have this. my granddad always said; "strike 1, you're born black, strike 2,you're always looked at as guilty,wrong,anything but somethin good.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 6:58 am EDT
I see Obama as nothing but good. I don't see a strike against him. I just see a brilliant man that will lead us into the future. He will lead us beyond normal politics and BS and make us all demand more from one another. The policies he stands for is everything I want for my son’s future. Besides where he stands on issues, (I am a white woman) I want my 3 year old not to see hate the way we have all learned. When my son sees an African American, he doesn't see BLACK and I want it to remain that way.
Together, WE can make America better.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 7:04 am EDT
I suggest you check a recent diary on DKos, tittled "No One Said This Was Gonna Be A Cakewalk".
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Mar 15th 2008 at 7:26 am EDT
HILLARY EXPOSED! THIS IS A MUST SEE FOR EVER AMERICAN
WE MUST SPREAD THE TRUTH, SINCE BARACK CAN'T. THIS IS A MOVIE ABOUT HILLARY. IF YOU REALLY WANT TO KNOW ABOUT AMERICA'S FAVORITE FIRST LADY!
Watch all 9 parts, especially part 2 and 3:
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Mar 15th 2008 at 6:09 am EDT
Article titled:
Sorry Hillary, You've Crossed the Line
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Mar 15th 2008 at 6:19 am EDT
Nice article ... and I agree with all in it except one thing: I will never vote for Hillary, absolutely never! Nothing will change my mind on that.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 6:16 am EDT
I still am having a difficult time stomaching Pastor Wright's comments. I am an African American and I was nauseated by his comments. I was very happy to see Barack come out forcefully to denounce this guy. The biggest problem I have with the pastor's comments is that he was so forceful and passionate in his presentation. My goal is to stay positive today and try to move past this. Still cannot believe it though.
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Aleksi
Mar 15th 2008 at 6:25 am EDT
what´s happen now??
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Mar 15th 2008 at 6:32 am EDT
I know not all of us are bible readers but consider the old testament prophets. If you are not familiar with them check them out. Their speech was often very passionate and condemning. The truth is, the statements about the wrong that our country has been a part of are factual. He was not praying for the daming of America. He said if you listened that America would be damned if it did not change its' arrogant ways. This is what he said. Also I agree that his statements are hard to hear but the job of a prophet is to stir up the people, make them uncomfortable enough to change! It is true that the black church experience is quite different from the white church experience. Also those of us who are african- americans do see America differently than most white- americans. Barack hit it on the head when he spoke about the life experience of Rev. Wright. He grew up in the 60's. He lived thru the discrimination that my generation only heard about thru our parents. I myself have had my own experiences of being treated unfairly because of the color of my skin, but I have also had opportunites that the previous generation did not have. Remember that as Roland Martin said on CNN last night. Dr. King was also called unamerican for speaking out against the Vietnam War. This conversation needs to happen in America and Barack is the one to have it. Let's not fear this. We cannot change what we are not willing to confront! Those like Hannity and O'Reily and Ferraro will never chage because they are not willing to see the world thru someone else's eyes. It is hard for them to look at the destruction caused by America's actions here toward her own and around the world. They will forever be bond by their unwillingness to embrace the truth no matter how painful. Rememer it is the truth that sets us FREE!!
Obama 08/09
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Gary in Obamaville formerly of Crivitz, WI
Mar 15th 2008 at 6:37 am EDT
Morning inspiration.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 9:50 am EDT
While some of you may have let this recent unfortunate media smear distract you or even dampen your spirit, there are more of us for whom this is not the case. Fellow Obamacrats please listen! If you think that a man who is pereceived as an African American is going to be elected president of these United States (and he will be elected by the way) without the issue of race being raised, you are mistaken. If it wasn't the videos of Rev. Wright, it would be something else. Frankly, I do not think it is such a bad thing that the issue of race--which is indeed an issue in the U.S.--has risen in this campaign. How else will the country be brought together if it is not open to a discussion of this issue as will as those we are more comfortable with discussing--health care, education, etc. I am a college professor for almost 20 years now. I teach courses in intercultural/international relations. As I tell my students--the majority of whom are White--we cannot move beyond the issue of "race" or anything else by ignoring it or pretending that it doesn't exist. As true supporters of Obama, we must not be afraid of an open discussion of "race". Denounce, reputiate, dissassocite with anyone who sprue hateful words by all means. Also, often times what looks or sounds like anger/hate is actually the expression of feelings of hurt/pain. I certainly believe this is what we heard in the voices of both Geraldine Farraro and Wright this past week. Farraro, who may feel that she has been oppressed and discriminated against because of her gender, is openly dealing with her hurt through this process. It is important for us as believers in "change", "unity", "GOD", "prayer" and a better country and world to be open to a discussion of these issues. Otherwise, our campaign purpose and mission are no different from all the rest! Let's be encouraged and get back to supporting Barack in donations, making phones and door to door canvassing. I am calling a list of superdelegates and encouraging them to pledge their support of Obama. Please join me. See list this thread.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 6:41 am EDT
Now I know what you guys mean.. i have seen that video a minute ago! and I have to say WOW!
SACARY!!! I MUST NEED A COFFEE!! MG...
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Mar 15th 2008 at 9:49 am EDT
While some of you may have let this recent unfortunate media smear distract you or even dampen your spirit, there are more of us for whom this is not the case. Fellow Obamacrats please listen! If you think that a man who is pereceived as an African American is going to be elected president of these United States (and he will be elected by the way) without the issue of race being raised, you are mistaken. If it wasn't the videos of Rev. Wright, it would be something else. Frankly, I do not think it is such a bad thing that the issue of race--which is indeed an issue in the U.S.--has risen in this campaign. How else will the country be brought together if it is not open to a discussion of this issue as will as those we are more comfortable with discussing--health care, education, etc. I am a college professor for almost 20 years now. I teach courses in intercultural/international relations. As I tell my students--the majority of whom are White--we cannot move beyond the issue of "race" or anything else by ignoring it or pretending that it doesn't exist. As true supporters of Obama, we must not be afraid of an open discussion of "race". Denounce, reputiate, dissassocite with anyone who sprue hateful words by all means. Also, often times what looks or sounds like anger/hate is actually the expression of feelings of hurt/pain. I certainly believe this is what we heard in the voices of both Geraldine Farraro and Wright this past week. Farraro, who may feel that she has been oppressed and discriminated against because of her gender, is openly dealing with her hurt through this process. It is important for us as believers in "change", "unity", "GOD", "prayer" and a better country and world to be open to a discussion of these issues. Otherwise, our campaign purpose and mission are no different from all the rest! Let's be encouraged and get back to supporting Barack in donations, making phones and door to door canvassing. I am calling a list of superdelegates and encouraging them to pledge their support of Obama. Please join me. See list this thread.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 6:37 am EDT
Clay,
The best antidote for the anger displayed by Rev. Wright -- and any doubts it may have cast on Barack's character and true beliefs -- is a wonderful article about Barack's mother, published on yesterday's NY Times. Please take a moment to read it, it will really make you feel better...
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Mar 15th 2008 at 6:48 am EDT
Hi, Clay.
I hope this early morning is finding you well. To preface, I am a very soon to be 28 year semi-educated white mail. Worked full time since I was 14 (Kinney Shoes, I lied about my age, sorry, I had to buy my own car when I was 16), and have been in the healthcare industry for 10 years. I am Agnostic, and study some Buddhism (Buddhism is not a religion, just FYI). While I strongly disagree with how Reverend Wright states his arguments, I find myself saying for the most part, "what isn't true about what Pastor Wright said?".
"It just came to me within the past few weeks, y'all, why so many folk are hating on Barack obama. He doesn't fit the model. He ain't white. He ain't rich. And he ain't privileged. Hillary fits the mold. Barack knows what it means to be a black man living in a country and a culture that is controlled by rich white people. Hillary can never know that. Hillary ain't never been called a [bleeped out n-word].
"
That above is exactly the mindset of a lot of individuals, whether you want to believe it or not. There is nothing false about what he said above, it's just the way that he says it that throws people off. Keep in mind that Pastor Wright comes from the civil rights era, where as Obama benefited from that era; having his elders go thru the struggles that lead to freedom for Barack. So, Wright's mind frame is going to be very different then Obama's, but I do see the good in Wright. I guess I'm asking you to dig a little deeper and think just a little more about.
I have a good friend and his family is semi-racist. Continuing to be ignorant in thinking Obama is a Muslim, yada yada yada. They all voted for Hillary, and continue to talk "Osama Bin this, etc). I've known these people for 15 years, and just because I don't agree with what they say, doesn't mean that I'm going to befriend them. That would not be right, as these people are human beings, and human beings aren't perfect.
I'm pulling for Barack more then ever, and I can't wait to represent Precinct (delegate) 488 in Round Rock for Obama on 3/29.
Yes we can. ;~)
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Mar 15th 2008 at 6:51 am EDT
It's male, not mail. You would think I would know that considering I am one.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 6:51 am EDT
It's male, not mail. You would think I would know that considering I am one.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 11:51 am EDT
Thanks for the feedback and thoughts everyone. Now that I am fully awake and caffeinated, I have to agree that Rev. Wright's comments taken in full context are not as incendiary as originally assessed. And I also agree that it is difficult to understand his full comments because of the gruff tone that he takes.
After posting to the blog this morning, I spoke to my Mom this morning. My Mom is an "Obama-Mama" and she was feeling pretty low also. As I was trying to lift her spirits it actually helped me
to see this issue for what it truly is. Another poster put it perfectly: "There is no way we can get through this nomination and presidential election without race being put front and center." I think we all hoped it would not go there because we knew it would be a potential mine-field. But we knew it was inevitable.
Now, I think we need to communicate the full context of Rev. Wright's sermons. While the tone might be difficult to bear, I think people need to see the full context.
I will always be an Obama supporter through the ups and downs and I will not allow these distractions to dampen my enthusiasm for this campaign and for our candidate.
It is interesting that when I spoke to my Mom this morning, she connected the tornado that hit downtown Atlanta and CNN with the flack that Barack is getting for Rev. Wright's comments. She thought it was interesting that it was the first time in history that a tornado hit downtown Atlanta and she did not think it was a coincidence that it hit CNN while Anderson was reporting on the Rev. Wright story.
Unlike my Mom's assessment, I have to chalk it up to pure coincidence, but it does seem a little eerie.
Fried Up and Ready to Go!
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Mar 15th 2008 at 12:43 pm EDT
Awesome Clay! I think this campaign will best be summed up with the following saying: "The Road of Excess Leads to the Palace of Wisdom". We are on our way and will make it happen.
Take care of yourself bud, Paul
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Mar 15th 2008 at 3:58 pm EDT
I stay with you Mom. I just stuck an unmarked dish in my CD player: Dylan. Did not listen to him for years. Saw President Johnson standing there. Thought how far we have come. Obama will win. Yes we can.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 6:19 am EDT
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Mar 15th 2008 at 6:19 am EDT
Obama has a super strategy and we are watching it unfold. HRC will do everything that she can to win PA. All we have to do is make it close. She is behind in PA already as she failed to register for a full slate of delegates there in spite of her henchman Rendell extending her deadline to do so.
Obama has taken a much more strategic approach realizing that if he wins NC significantly and IN comfortably, then it is all over. She would need 80% of the vote in the subsequent contests to catch him....and that ain't happening. By campaigning now in IN Obama has pushed harder. If she dilutes her effort in PA to keep pace with him in IN, then we gain in PA. He also does extremely well in states that he has time in, making up 20 point deficits.
So...just sit back and watch a master at work....and it ain't HRC.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 6:20 am EDT
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Mar 15th 2008 at 6:38 am EDT
Kids will be kids.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 6:27 am EDT
By the way, does anyone have the link to CNN's live stream schedule of events?
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Mar 15th 2008 at 6:35 am EDT
Yesterday was tough. I'm relieved this all happened on a Friday ... maybe by Monday we'll be on to another topic. However, one network indicated they would "confirm" that Barack has never been to one of those types of sermons. I assume they mean, they're gonna listen to other tapes of the sermons, check the dates, then indicate whether Barack was in church that day. Unbelievable.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 6:45 am EDT
oh well...what else are they going to throw at him..
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Mar 15th 2008 at 10:04 am EDT
While some of you may have let this recent unfortunate media smear distract you or even dampen your spirit, there are more of us for whom this is not the case. Fellow Obamacrats please listen! If you think that a man who is pereceived as an African American is going to be elected president of these United States (and he will be elected by the way) without the issue of race being raised, you are mistaken. If it wasn't the videos of Rev. Wright, it would be something else. Frankly, I do not think it is such a bad thing that the issue of race--which is indeed an issue in the U.S.--has risen in this campaign. How else will the country be brought together if it is not open to a discussion of this issue as will as those we are more comfortable with discussing--health care, education, etc. I am a college professor for almost 20 years now. I teach courses in intercultural/international relations. As I tell my students--the majority of whom are White--we cannot move beyond the issue of "race" or anything else by ignoring it or pretending that it doesn't exist. As true supporters of Obama, we must not be afraid of an open discussion of "race". Denounce, reputiate, dissassocite with anyone who sprue hateful words by all means. Also, often times what looks or sounds like anger/hate is actually the expression of feelings of hurt/pain. I certainly believe this is what we heard in the voices of both Geraldine Farraro and Wright this past week. Farraro, who may feel that she has been oppressed and discriminated against because of her gender, is openly dealing with her hurt through this process. It is important for us as believers in "change", "unity", "GOD", "prayer" and a better country and world to be open to a discussion of these issues. Otherwise, our campaign purpose and mission are no different from all the rest! Let's be encouraged and get back to supporting Barack in donations, making phones and door to door canvassing. I am calling a list of superdelegates and encouraging them to pledge their support of Obama. Please join me. See list this thread.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 6:37 am EDT
The circumstances of the past week have been the best worst thing that's happened to our campaign.
Barack himself spoke of his campaign stump speech getting "stale", which is PARTICULARLY not a good thing for a candidacy so heavily dependent on young voters and people who might otherwise be too bored with politics to participate.
His speeches had lost the energy and zeal and the enthusiastic alluring sense of possibility that he'd generated in his original stumps. Instead, he'd been drawn into tedious specificity about his policies at the expense of the popular message of unity and involvement, themes more poignant as campaign themes in light of the detested divisive and exclusionary attitudes of the current administration.
Now the foul winds of misfortune have hopefully steered Barack back to himself. Passions are very high, old divisions are freshly reminded to our nation and we have essentially fallen back in to the mental state that we were in before Barack gave us hope for a better way with his 2004 convention speech. Our hearts are ripe once more for that voice that reminded us all of the singularity of our destiny, as Americans, in this world!
This adverse week and the emotions that it's welled now gives license to Obama to return safely to his rousing calls for an AMERICAN identity. Barack's extraordinary oratory was made for these trials, but even better, this is in truth a trial for ALL Americans and a defining question: "what identity shall we choose to present of ourselves to the rest of the world, post-Bush? How shall we inspire Shiites and Sunnis, Israelis and Palestinians IF we ourselves fall short of the unity we preach?"
This, Barack, is YOUR moment, a transformative opportunity. More than at any other time in this campaign, you're justified to "indulge" in what you're best at: persuading our better wills with inspiring words(as opposed to the cold 'seminars' on policy specifics!). This week's racial woes are a microcosm of the varied divisions crippling America. Let's not distract from discussing the perils of a divided politics by getting bogged down on race alone.
Whomever has the ability to do so, please forward this humble post to our busy candidate's advisers. Obama 08!
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Mar 15th 2008 at 6:44 am EDT
Jeremiah Wright has retired. There is a new pastor. Barak has NOT gone to that church and a long time. This stuff was raised in early 2007. The press is having a field day because HRC has decided to team up with the Rethuglicans.
Aren't we all guilty by association. My pastor is anti abortion. I'm pro-choice. My pastor is against co-habitation. Half of his parishioners are living together not married. What pastor isn't controversial? Billy Graham a Christian Evangelical did not like Jews. He gave anti semitic advice to sitting presidents about jews. DISGUSTING but true.
Jeremiah Wright is an old black man who looks at life through a racial lens. But Barak doesn't look at life this way.
I don't agree with everything my pastor says. I don't tithe 10%. I'm pro-choice. I'm for gay rights. I could go on and on. If they showed clips from my pastor, or some of my friends, family members, or people that I'd worked with - I couldn't run for elected office either. And neither could any of you on this board! We are all guilty by association.
Jeremiah Wright has also given sermons where he sounds like a white KKK clansmen because he is railing about what black folks AREN'T doing for themselves. He advocates complete independence. Ironically, you won't see those clips.
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Is there anyone that can get any dirt on any off the presenters on fox news.I am sure they have dirt washing in the wardrobe.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 6:54 am EDT
probably it is better if we stop talking about yesterday, It was a bad day yesterday, every body knows that if you guys patronize the news from yesterday, and answer the trolls you will just fan the fire, let them post whatever they want then just continue a good conversation, better yet talk about HRC negatives,
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Mar 15th 2008 at 6:58 am EDT
I'm feeling hung over today from the intensity of yesterday's emotional frenzy over Pastor Wright's comments.
The emotional intensity on the the Obama blogs as well as in the national media are disproportionate to the actual event. This would indicate, that this whole issue has touched a profound wounding in the psyche of the nation. Duh! :-)
For me, it's profoundly disturbing that Wright's comments are found to be so disturbing and that they're interpreted as hateful. Few people on the BO blogs took time to understand the context in which they were made or how these comments reflect deep-rooted historical realities of the pain and exclusion of so many African Americans.
I think it's wonderful that this issue has brought to the surface a host of racial tensions. I hope at some point the nation is able to have a sensible dialogue about it.
Admittedly, the heat of a campaign is probably not the ideal time for this conversation! However, I hope that the pain of racism and the divides it creates between peoples will not be buried and stuffed back down.
There needs to be a more open and honest dialogue between blacks of all stripes, whites of all stripes, hispanics of all stripes, Asians of all stripes, native Americans, and Jews of all stripes.
By campaigning as an African American, albeit bi-racial, Obama is bringing voices to the American public discourse that haven't been heard and that need to be heard which need to be heard and empathized with. Voices like Wright's, fraught with pain and anger, are hard to listen to, but they are valid. They represent valid experiences.
There's no doubt in my mind that Obama's public denunciation of Wright has caused him great personal pain. I wish there'd been another way to deal with it, but for now, in order to win the election and create a space for the future dialogue to come, he had to do it. Politics is about painful choices and compromises.
I am glad Obama immediately dealt with it in all the television interviews and the Huffington Post blog. So many people just can't hear what Wright was really saying. Part of the campaign is breaking down dividing walls and creating a unity and sense of common purpose so that these voices can be heard and so that healing on the many sides of the racial divide can occur.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 7:01 am EDT
Is there anyone that can get any dirt on any off the presenters on fox news.I am sure they have dirtY washing in the wardrobe.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 7:34 am EDT
Thank you for a gracious post. All of this is painfully silly. Barack Obama's spin handlers are doing a poor job trying to explain away the pain and frustration of a man (Dr. Jeremiah Wright) who is an expert in social liberation theology.
First, from the tapes he seems to be saying God "damned" America, not God damn and that in Judeo-Christian theology, there is punishment for sins, including the stupidity and senseless deaths of the Iraq war. That's the spin.
I am a woman of African descent with three sons and a daughter and a husband and a menopausal cat. I love my life in America but I recognize the country still has work to do to live up to its potential.
The spin is not "I never heard those things". The response is not "I reject and denounce". The issue is how to incorporate those frustrations into a call to action for all America, as Dr. King did. He was not popular (even with blacks), but his dream of the BELOVED COMMUNITY came out of liberation theology - and King loved the potential of this country as we all do. He died for it.
So, as painful as this is, the spin is to rally people around the call for change. Keep the message, but stop reacting to foolishness by becoming foolish. Acknowledge the bigger issues that unite us - hope, possibility and fear of the Bear Stearns bailout. We all have a social lens, but the bigger picture is to be strong in the face of extraordinary financial and economic crisis, the war draining all of our futures, the collapse of the dollar, the need to change from an industrial to an energy based economy for all our sakes.
Keep on message and stop apologizing. To steal from male Clinton in the past "It's the economy stupid" . Say it before she does, and start talking about strategic ways to reengineer this country through renewable resources, and how to guide us through a recession/depression.
THEN talk about how the reengineering will take focus, sacrifice and team work from all Americans to receive the blessings from our efforts.
Peace.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 7:45 am EDT
Hey JA, thanks for responding to my post.
I am a middle aged, white single woman with no children who works on social justice and reconciliation issues for a living.
I wish Obama weren't afraid to embrace more of the liberation theology ideals of Martin Luther King. I don't know how the campaign can reframe some of its spin to incorporate some of the complexities that need to be addressed in the heat of a campaign. I, too, wish they wouldn't resort to soundbites of 'reject and denounce' although at the same time, I understand why they think they need to. It's a hard one.
But I aspire to the dream of MLK's beloved community with you. I think a true patriot is one who calls our country to account and challenges it to do better. I think that was Pastor Wright's intent in his speeches as well.
My biggest prayer is that the door has begun to open on new conversations about race and racial healing that will only open wider once Obama becomes president.
We must all hold him accountable once he's elected to MLK's vision of a beloved community and begin to work together to actually move through this (quit denying it) by acknowleding it, the histories, the pain, and figure out what kind of common future together we all want where every voice matters.
I am so sick of the hate language of the right, that is for sure!
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Mar 15th 2008 at 7:04 am EDT
No more talk about fox news cycle. Stay Positive. Fired UP & Ready to Go
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Nanci A patriotic dissident
Mar 15th 2008 at 7:21 am EDT
My post was very positive.
There is nothing wrong with taking some time to reflect on the past 24 hours.
I realize you all need to get out and campaign and that's fine. But some of us are gifted in reflection and understanding the larger picture and I don't appreciate being silenced by orders to stay positive by the blog police!
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Mar 15th 2008 at 7:07 am EDT
WE MUST SPREAD THE TRUTH, SINCE BARACK CAN'T. THIS IS A MOVIE ABOUT HILLARY. IF YOU REALLY WANT TO KNOW ABOUT AMERICA'S FAVORITE FIRST LADY!
Watch all 9 parts, especially part 2 and 3:
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Mar 15th 2008 at 7:22 am EDT
I couldn't agree more, Nanci. I think the racial and perceived moral divide in America is deep and complex enough as to be almost intractable. And the present circumstances aren't exactly ideal. But if there were anyone who could possibly succeed in mediating this much needed healing process, I think Barack may just be the man.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 7:26 am EDT
Thanks for actually commenting on my post! :-)
I agree that if anyone can mediate this much needed healing process it is Barack. I stand awed that he has been able to initiate this conversation in the first place. His very candidacy and this movement is transformative and has made huge inroads.
Change will be slow and there will be lots of setbacks, but I think it is possible!
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Mar 15th 2008 at 7:09 am EDT
I agree, Kerry never stood up for himself.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 7:02 am EDT
The country is getting a needed education. FOX's campaign will not achieve their purpose. By the end of this more and more will recognize that what Jeremiah was saying was merely a recapitulation of what Malcolm X said, minus the threat of an eye for an eye which was also a part of Malcolm's message. By the end Malcolm had achieved a state of peace and was not preaching a separatist message. The reality is that every human being is a spectrum from the most base and infantile to the sublime and trancscendent. Character is where one is on the spectrum. Barack and anyone with open eyes knows full well the part of the spectrum where the reaction is one of anger and hurt and hostility. He also knows and believes that we as a people can move forward just as Malcolm did. In his whirlwind tour of the MSM last night Barack made it clear that this is a teaching moment for America. I think that is what this is basically about, bringing more people to a more mature understanding of the pain in our past and the hope in our future. Truth marching on.
It is also a theological education. The Biblical prophets voiced the judgment on a disobedient nation. It was not treason. It was faith and the hope of repentance and change.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 7:08 am EDT
WE MUST SPREAD THE TRUTH, SINCE BARACK CAN'T. THIS IS A MOVIE ABOUT HILLARY. IF YOU REALLY WANT TO KNOW ABOUT AMERICA'S FAVORITE FIRST LADY!
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Mar 15th 2008 at 7:09 am EDT
THANKS STEVEN YOUR RIGHT. fOX NEWS WILL NOT SUCCEED IN BRINGING OBAMA DOWN THEY ARE WELL BIAS THOU.AS WE GET CLOSER TO THE NOMINATION THE MEDIA ARE GETTING FANATICAL.THEY ARE THE SAME AS THE TERRORIST INSTEAD OF BOMBS THEY USE SPINS.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 7:11 am EDT
Steve, thanks for your thoughtful post.
I agree with you that this is an educational moment for the nation, and a much needed one! I hope it doesn't get lost in all the hustle and bustle of the campaign.
I hope when the dust settles that people begin to use this opportunity to understand the pain in our past so that we can move onto the future. We really can't move on to the future in its fullness unless we figure out some way to heal and reconcile the past pain and experiences of so many citizens who've been denied full citizenship.
I also agree that it is a theological education. As a scholar who takes an interdisciplinary approach to politics from a gendered, cultured, and religious perspective, I am sympathetic to, although I have also critiqued, liberation theology. The biblical prophets of Isaiah, Jeremiah, Amos, and Micah, in particular are my favorites!
We need the prophets in our midst to point out social injustices and how to be better, more humane people.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 7:12 am EDT
WE MUST SPREAD THE TRUTH, SINCE BARACK CAN'T. THIS IS A MOVIE ABOUT HILLARY. IF YOU REALLY WANT TO KNOW ABOUT AMERICA'S FAVORITE FIRST LADY!
Watch all 9 parts, especially part 2 and 3:
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Mar 15th 2008 at 8:28 am EDT
thanks, Stephen. Again, we all need to remember that this is "an election, not a revolution." We can hope for teachable moments such as this, but we need to remember where we are and the terrible legacy of race that we live everyday. Obama is walking a very thin line here and I very much appreciate how well he is doing this. Remember this is a nation that elected George W. Bush twice and while I am not cynical, I think we have to keep that in mind when we call for Obama to be more vocal about race. This is a country that finds change difficult. Obama is doing a remarkable job of finding the right way to address this very difficult issue. I very much hope he maintains his present tone, finding teachable moments when he can.
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Nanci A patriotic dissident
Mar 15th 2008 at 7:05 am EDT
I'm feeling hung over today from the intensity of yesterday's emotional frenzy over Pastor Wright's comments.
The emotional intensity on the the Obama blogs as well as in the national media are disproportionate to the actual event. This would indicate, that this whole issue has touched a profound wounding in the psyche of the nation. Duh! :-)
For me, it's profoundly disturbing that Wright's comments are found to be so disturbing and that they're interpreted as hateful. Few people on the BO blogs took time to understand the context in which they were made or how these comments reflect deep-rooted historical realities of the pain and exclusion of so many African Americans.
I think it's wonderful that this issue has brought to the surface a host of racial tensions. I hope at some point the nation is able to have a sensible dialogue about it.
Admittedly, the heat of a campaign is probably not the ideal time for this conversation! However, I hope that the pain of racism and the divides it creates between peoples will not be buried and stuffed back down.
There needs to be a more open and honest dialogue between blacks of all stripes, whites of all stripes, hispanics of all stripes, Asians of all stripes, native Americans, and Jews of all stripes.
By campaigning as an African American, albeit bi-racial, Obama is bringing voices to the American public discourse that haven't been heard and that need to be heard which need to be heard and empathized with. Voices like Wright's, fraught with pain and anger, are hard to listen to, but they are valid. They represent valid experiences.
There's no doubt in my mind that Obama's public denunciation of Wright has caused him great personal pain. I wish there'd been another way to deal with it, but for now, in order to win the election and create a space for the future dialogue to come, he had to do it. Politics is about painful choices and compromises.
I am glad Obama immediately dealt with it in all the television interviews and the Huffington Post blog. So many people just can't hear what Wright was really saying. Part of the campaign is breaking down dividing walls and creating a unity and sense of common purpose so that these voices can be heard and so that healing on the many sides of the racial divide can occur
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Mar 15th 2008 at 7:07 am EDT
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Remember that there are people that register with our names or changes their names constantly just to create confusion and stir up trouble here!!!
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Nanci A patriotic dissident
Mar 15th 2008 at 7:17 am EDT
Dimitrius,
I appreciate your good intentions in warning us about trolls. I know your heart is in the right place.
But I have to tell you that I find this list offensive as well as the constant troll labeling that goes on on these blogs by others.
I read some of the posts of these people and not all of them are trolls. Some are genuine supporters who were sincerely disturbed by yesterday's events and were grappling to come to an understanding of what had happened.
I'm not sure what criteria you're applying to who you judge to be trolls and I'm not sure who appointed you to be the judge of the blog. We're still a first amendment blog, aren't we?
We're all mature adults, at least I hope so, and have the sense not to engage with people who's sole intention is to disrupt the blog.
I cringe every time someone labels someone as a troll, so it's not just you. I just wonder if we could be a little less harsh and quick to judge here.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 7:27 am EDT
If someone registered with my name and started trolling I would add my name to the troll list as well.
What criteria??????
Are you kidding me?????
Just look at the trolls profiles-often they don`t have a public profile-and if they do their points are exremely low.And read all their insulting comments about Obama and you will understand who is a troll or not.They pretend to be Obama supporters and dissappointed BUT THAT IS PLAIN BS!
You don`t like my troll list that is your problem.I will continue to fight against these trolls-whether you like it or not!
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Mar 15th 2008 at 7:29 am EDT
And by the way my name is Dimitris and not Dimitrius.
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Nanci A patriotic dissident
Mar 15th 2008 at 7:34 am EDT
Dimitris, sorry for mispelling your name. My bad!
Have a nice day! :-)
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Mar 15th 2008 at 7:43 am EDT
Let's not be the judge and the juries. This is not our role! The actions of labeling others goes against the spirit and the purpose of this campaign!!
Remember the negative tone and content of our blogs can be used against us and will drive new supporters AWAY from us and ultimately will harm Barack Obama.
Let's all remember what Barack Obama keeps reminding us: "we can disagree without being disagreeable".
So let's exercise good judgement by responding to people we disagree with, with calm, respect and fact-based answers.
Obama, The Uniter Of the United States Of America!
Yes WE Can!
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Mar 16th 2008 at 4:11 pm EDT
Sam,
Thank You!!!
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Mar 15th 2008 at 8:05 am EDT
What is this? An enemies list?
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Mar 15th 2008 at 8:31 am EDT
There have been a couple of situations that I know of where people were unfairly accused of being trolls. Remember, we have an open forum, some things are going to come through. At least this isn't being run like 1984, as Clinton's forum seems to be.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 7:07 am EDT
I smell a rat. Hillary and Co. have been a tad quiet lately, for them at least.
Hmmmm, I really do believe that HRC is going to take this campaign to the depths of hell in the near future. I think she is fully unstable, amoral, and feels full entitlement to be POTUS. Basically, she is not rationally definable any more.
I am bracing for what would be the most insulting and heartless barrage of filth attacks, (in U.S. political campaign history), to come from Hillary very, very soon. And they will never stop. I am convinced that she is fully unable to rise above the slime that her campaign has become. Oh, she be one angry person! How dare anyone question what she says or does! IMHO, she is only still married to ‘ole “lie under oath Bill” for one reason: political gain and power. IMHO she didn’t divorce him for only one reason: payback, i.e., use of him in her presidential bid. “Stand by your man”? I’m not buying it for a second … pure hogwash!
She has been playing every conceivable ethnic group in this country for complete fools … white, AA, Latino, Asian … and on and on, ad infinitum.
Here’s one that gone under the radar, (completely it appears): The notion that the U.S. economy flourished under the presidential guidance of Bill Clinton. 99% of America believes that crap! Well, I hate to disappoint anyone, but here is the simple truth of that: It was a coincidence; that is it, i.e, Bill just happened to be in office during the ‘90’s tech revolution, and the economy flourished. HE, Bill, had not one damn thing to do with the fact. It Is A Fairy Tale piece of urban legend nonsense that, unfortunately, may never be debunked! I despise Bush, but the truth is, Bill Clinton handed W an economy already in steady decline; and King George just kicked it further down the hill … and right smack into our faces and empty wallets.
Myself, and generations of my family, have fought for this country. If Barack gets railroaded out of the presidency I think I’ll just have to reconsider what this country is really all about (anymore).
Barack or bust!
James
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Mar 15th 2008 at 7:12 am EDT
WE MUST SPREAD THE TRUTH, SINCE BARACK CAN'T. THIS IS A MOVIE ABOUT HILLARY. IF YOU REALLY WANT TO KNOW ABOUT AMERICA'S FAVORITE FIRST LADY!
Watch all 9 parts, especially part 2 and 3:
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Nanci A patriotic dissident
Mar 15th 2008 at 7:23 am EDT
Flow, we get it. Quit hijacking peoples' threads and spamming the blogs.
You can post it every so many hours for newcomeres to the blog, but your all caps announcement is very irritating and I am less likely to listen to you when you're shouting at me and rudely hijacking my thread.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 7:33 am EDT
Nanci I apologize, sincerly! This footage has vexed me to the point of screaming. i am not that familiar with blogging, so I apologize for hijacking your thread. No disrespect intended. Please watch the footage. Also youtube "Clintons Exposed" I really dont understand how this isn't on the news.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 7:51 am EDT
Hey, thanks for your apology. I really appreciate it! That was very kind of you.
I really appreciate your enthusiasm and energy and will now go and watch this! Thank you for alerting us to this important information.
I appreciate all you are doing for the Obama movement! Keep up the good work.
Hugs.
Nanci
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Mar 15th 2008 at 7:12 am EDT
fyi from the open DCW thread
timeforchange said...
Bill, UK, Hillary didn't associate herslef with those criminals. Spitzer hasn't been convicted of anything yet.
As far as being glad about the things you mentioned, I'm not.
And I don't think Hillary did what you say.
I know I personally and many hundreds of members of a Hillary blog have been sending emails and other communications to the network asking them to cover Obama's minister, etc.
I think it's more likely that they got the idea to investigate from us and perhaps FOX news.
March 14, 2008 7:17 PM
.............................. ...
Now that I find interesting, that you and several hundred others all belonging to a Clinton blog 'have been sending emails and other communications to the network'.
SO you admit that this is an orchestrated campaign from a Clinton blog!
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Mar 15th 2008 at 7:14 am EDT
HILLARY EXPOSED! THIS IS A MUST SEE FOR EVER AMERICAN
WE MUST SPREAD THE TRUTH, SINCE BARACK CAN'T. THIS IS A MOVIE ABOUT HILLARY. IF YOU REALLY WANT TO KNOW ABOUT AMERICA'S FAVORITE FIRST LADY!
Watch all 9 parts, especially part 2 and 3:
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Mar 15th 2008 at 7:18 am EDT
THANKS STEVEN YOUR RIGHT. fOX NEWS WILL NOT SUCCEED IN BRINGING OBAMA DOWN THEY ARE WELL BIAS THOU.AS WE GET CLOSER TO THE NOMINATION THE MEDIA ARE GETTING FANATICAL.THEY ARE THE SAME AS THE TERRORIST INSTEAD OF BOMBS THEY USE SPINS.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 7:16 am EDT
I am a 58 yr old Republican white male. I did not think my support for barack could get any stronger but after yesterday it has!
I lived through the 60s and saw white blacks went through to obtain civil rights...it was disgusting that they had to do so as we are ALL Americans.
Though Rev Wright may have clumsily said things I have to say I agreed with much of what he said though I wish he had been more clear.
Many times I have heard my Pastor say things I strongly disagreed with but have remained in my church. I take what I feel I need from his sermons and leave the rest.
Thank you Barack for remaining calm under fire. I watched all 3 interviews (though Fox was like an inquisistion) and gained even more respect for you in how you handled yourself...one of the reasons I support you in the first place.
May God continue to bless you and your family...you continue to have my support in any way I can offer it!!!
Peace,
Barack Obama 08!
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Nanci A patriotic dissident
Mar 15th 2008 at 7:32 am EDT
Hey Larry, thanks for what you wrote! I always enjoy reading your posts and you made a lot of good comments yesterday.
I have an even stronger support for Obama now after this as well. He dealt with it firmly.
If you're interested in my reflections about the past 24 hours and what it all means, look above a few threads before yours.
I was too young to appreciate what was going on in the 1960's, but the Civil Rights movement has had a profound impact on me and my interest in social justice.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 7:18 am EDT
If 10 thousand people call a straw a tree, it is still a straw…
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Mar 15th 2008 at 7:20 am EDT
If 10,000 Hillaries call a straw a tree, then it is New Hampshire:)
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Michael Hussien James
Mar 15th 2008 at 7:25 am EDT
THANKS STEVEN YOUR RIGHT. fOX NEWS WILL NOT SUCCEED IN BRINGING OBAMA DOWN THEY ARE WELL BIAS THOU.AS WE GET CLOSER TO THE NOMINATION THE MEDIA ARE GETTING FANATICAL.THEY ARE THE SAME AS THE TERRORIST INSTEAD OF BOMBS THEY USE SPINS.I HAVE TO ADD OBAMA HANDLED THE NEWS INTERVIEWS WELL ,HE CLARIFIED HES RELATIONSHIP WITH HES PASTOR VERY CLEARLY.
OBAMA 08
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Mar 15th 2008 at 10:11 am EDT
Please read my email to Sean Hannity below and I copied all his fellow Fox News Co-workers and may other news media. I am ready to take Sean Hannity on because I want him off of TV spreading his bias opinions. Will everybody else do the same?
My email to Sean Hannity:
Sean,
Once again you didn't surprised me with your bias toward Barack Obama. You have decided that you are going to be the one to bring him down. You said on your show tonight that Barack Obama is not fit to be a senator or the President of the United States. I will not attack you for making that statement because that's your opinion. However, you are not fit to be on the Fox News Network since they pride themselves on being FAIR AND BALANCE. That's not just my opinion but it is a fact. If there was a poll out for the American People to vote if you were unfit to be on the Fox News because they claim to be fair and balance you would get 98% of the vote. I know there is that small percentage out there who shares your view so that is why you wouldn't get 100%.
Since you have exposed your true bias toward Barack Obama tonight with those ridiculous statements about him not being fit, I have no more reasons to call you out. I would leave that to all the American People who will post many comments about you all over the various websites. Some of them will be brutal I am sure.
Sean, I pray to God that you never come tumbling off that pedestal that you have placed yourself on because people are going to be very harsh when talking about your downfall. Just ask Eliot Spitzer about it.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 7:33 am EDT
Close friends? Prove it. Prove that Barack was at one event that Wright made his controversial comments. Get me one witness to that alleged "fact."
Or do you just prefer guilt by (loose) association? It appears you do.
Barack is not Rev. Wright ... Barack is Barack. period.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 7:26 am EDT
On this Rev Wright thing. Are we now to assume that all Catholics from churches that were served by pedophile priests are also pedophiles? Are all Mormons bigamists? All Muslims terrorists? (Bush, Cheney and McCain prohibited from answering the last question)
Simply ridiculous.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 7:28 am EDT
HILLARY EXPOSED! THIS IS A MUST SEE FOR EVER AMERICAN
WE MUST SPREAD THE TRUTH, SINCE BARACK CAN'T. THIS IS A MOVIE ABOUT HILLARY. IF YOU REALLY WANT TO KNOW ABOUT AMERICA'S FAVORITE FIRST LADY!
Watch all 9 parts, especially part 2 and 3:
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Mar 15th 2008 at 7:33 am EDT
Flow quit spamming, hijacking others threads and cut the caps already!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Flow Hussein Obama who love Barack like u love ur Momma
Mar 15th 2008 at 7:42 am EDT
Jim , that was well stated. You can not condemn Barack for the views of his pastor. Doing so would imply that all the ignorant things George Bush has said and done, should be reflected upon every republican. They should all leave the party to distnace themselves from Bush
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Mar 15th 2008 at 7:27 am EDT
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Obama Can Win Pennsylvania Like Rendell Did
A very smart article by Mark Silva called Obama Keys to the Keystone State offers a great strategy for winning the forthcoming Pennsylvania primary. All Obama needs to do is follow the strategy that was used by urban liberal Ed Rendell when he attained the governorship. Salient paragraphs are quoted below. If you are working for Obama in PA, I recommend you read the whole thing.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 7:29 am EDT
WHY ISN'T THIS ON THE NEWS??????????
HILLARY EXPOSED! THIS IS A MUST SEE FOR EVER AMERICAN
WE MUST SPREAD THE TRUTH, SINCE BARACK CAN'T. THIS IS A MOVIE ABOUT HILLARY. IF YOU REALLY WANT TO KNOW ABOUT AMERICA'S FAVORITE FIRST LADY!
Watch all 9 parts, especially part 2 and 3:
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Jim B from NC, ... now ... the hard work starts.
Mar 15th 2008 at 7:31 am EDT
Please Flow - enough
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Benny Ambrose
Mar 15th 2008 at 7:45 am EDT
I think the best strategy to winning Pa are threefold:
1) A A solid economic Plan...II am waorking on
talking points for that.
2) Working all the counties, and spreading
Senatr Obama' message to unite, and protect
all Americns.
3.) Neutralize the HRC, Rendell, other opposing
forces. Some of the stategies can be divulged here because of those snooping on us.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 7:53 am EDT
You know what also would be awesome, I have the following idea:
Obama has the youth, we know that.
Now what demographic group loves to see youth ?
... right Grannies & Grandpa's... 65+
so click what about the following:
Instead of walking alone or with friends to cast/get registered your vote why not try to help some eldery to cast their vote/get registered?
Volunteer to help elderly cast their vote:
Walk with them, help them cross the road,
and above all be nice to them even if they support another candidate. just a thought but I think this could be powerful!
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Mar 15th 2008 at 7:47 am EDT
okay, sorry, Nanci set me straight! I apologize to all of you, I'm new to blogging. Please watch the video and also search "Clinton's Exposed" on youtube. Are you all alreasy familiar with this information about Hillary? Why isn't the news mesia all over this?
Watch all 9 parts, especially part 2 and 3:
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Mar 15th 2008 at 7:36 am EDT
Barack can win PA if he and his supporters work hard. We need him here all over the state, MIchelle, Kerry, Dodd, the Kanas Governer, the Kennedys and movie stars.. But most important he needs you and me.... This state could end it all, her momentum, here plea about big states, even her campaign.. We need to make calls for a month, come and volunteer if you can, send emails and texts, donate and just get to word out and we could win PA...
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Mar 15th 2008 at 7:38 am EDT
Enough already ... we already heard you, thanks. Now please wait for the next thread.
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Michael Hussien James
Mar 15th 2008 at 7:33 am EDT
WE NEED TO GET OUT TO THE ASIAN COMMUNITY IN PA I HEARD IT GRAPEVINE. THEIS IMPORTANT. WHAT DO YOU THINK
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Mar 15th 2008 at 7:37 am EDT
yeah we need to get the asian community, african american and latino... if we got the majority in those three, this would help balance the rural, communities, she will win big in....
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Mar 15th 2008 at 7:45 am EDT
Great post. I suggest you send it to HQ at
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Sherie from Asheville, NC
Mar 15th 2008 at 7:34 am EDT
Now is the time to be visible, to take whatever comes at you, and to respond with the passion and reason that we as supporters have come to know from you. The public needs to see you and see the disconnect between those televised rants and your nature.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 7:34 am EDT
A little off subject but I just wanted to share with you responses I recieved from Dodd and Lieberman when I wrote to tell them about my support for more finances pancreatic cancer research.
I work in a cancer center with pancreatic cancer patients. Their prognosis is poor, 80-90% die within 6 months, the 5 year prognosis is 2%. I witness their suffering every day. While not being the high on the list of incidence of cancer, it is the 4th leading cause of cancer death. I think that funding recieves very little attention because no one survives to advocate.
Lieberman's response came within 2 days but did not even address my concerns...he stated that he is working to save money...obviously not supporting funding for research
Dodd's response took a few weeks, but his office wrote a much more personalized letter citing what a devastating disease this is, example of how he supported cancer research (that Bush vetoed) and how he supported Pancreatic Cancer Awareness Month.
Lieberman's home is in my neighborhood (although I don't think he comes around these parts anymore). People here are very angry with him...it's amazing to me that he doesn't even have support in his own town. I don't think he has any intention to run again because he is throwing his career in the toilet.
Okay just had to get that out! Thanks for listening.
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Mar 15th 2008 at 7:35 am EDT
I wrote a pretty good (I think) long post about race using the lessons of my own life, but have decided against posting it for the moment. I will wait for the 527 attacks coming after Obama wraps up this nomination. I believe WE should all take a step back from this issue and let Obama make his own case in the insightful, eloquent and personal way that we have all been moved by time and again. We are the supporters, the surrogates, the mouthpieces of this campaign and our actions can undermine his message as well as lend to a skewed perception of what his personal position is by injecting our own personal feelings and views and then attributing them to him. There is a long way to go before Pennsylvania and I trust that the man that is Barack Obama will rise to the occasion once again and galvanize himself as the person that should and can guide this country to a brighter tomorrow.
These are the times that try men's souls
- Thomas Paine
Just my opinon - you are now free to move about the cabin :)
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Mar 15th 2008 at 7:41 am EDT
fOX NEWS WILL NOT SUCCEED IN BRINGING OBAMA DOWN THEY ARE WELL BIAS THOU.AS WE GET CLOSER TO THE NOMINATION THE MEDIA ARE GETTING FANATICAL.THEY ARE THE SAME AS THE TERRORIST INSTEAD OF BOMBS THEY USE SPINS.I HAVE TO ADD OBAMA HANDLED THE NEWS INTERVIEWS WELL ,HE CLARIFIED HES RELATIONSHIP WITH HES PASTOR VERY CLEARLY.
OBAMA 08
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Mar 15th 2008 at 7:49 am EDT
Great News, Glad to hear he will be coming back to PA....
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Mar 15th 2008 at 7:42 am EDT
Thank you for a gracious post. All of this is painfully silly. Barack Obama's spin handlers are doing a poor job trying to explain away the pain and frustration of a man (Dr. Jeremiah Wright) who is an expert in social liberation theology.
First, from the tapes he seems to be saying God "damned" America, not God damn and that in Judeo-Christian theology, there is punishment for sins, including the stupidity and senseless deaths of the Iraq war. That's the spin.
I am a woman of African descent with three sons and a daughter and a husband and a menopausal cat. I love my life in America but I recognize the country still has work to do to live up to its potential.
The spin is not "I never heard those things". The response is not "I reject and denounce". The issue is how to incorporate those frustrations into a call to action for all America, as Dr. King did. He was not popular (even with blacks), but his dream of the BELOVED COMMUNITY came out of liberation theology - and King loved the potential of this country as we all do. He died for it.
So, as painful as this is, the spin is to rally people around the call for change. Keep the message, but stop reacting to foolishness by becoming foolish. Acknowledge the bigger issues that unite us - hope, possibility and fear of the Bear Stearns bailout. We all have a social lens, but the bigger picture is to be strong in the face of extraordinary financial and economic crisis, the war draining all of our futures, the collapse of the dollar, the need to change from an industrial to an energy based economy for all our sakes.
Keep on message and stop apologizing. To steal from male Clinton in the past "It's the economy stupid" . Say it before does, and start talking about strategic ways to reengineer this country through renewable resources, and how to guide us through a recession/depression.
THEN talk about how the reengineering will take focus, sacrifice and team work from all Americans to receive the blessings from our efforts.
Peace.
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Do not hate what you don’t understand, understand so you do not hate…
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