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- Jul 12th, 2009 at 9:44 am EDT
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Tori from Greenville,SC
Jul 12th 2009 at 9:57 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 9:57 am EDT)
Good Morning to all of you. I have been peeping in but I have been very busy trying to help my hubby start his blog/website. I am coming to get you guys.
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sduncan
Jul 12th 2009 at 10:06 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:06 am EDT)
Good Morning and congrats on being first.
Does anyone know if we are expecting a first baby?
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Celtic
Jul 12th 2009 at 10:31 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:31 am EDT)
L'Aquila residents to get Obama furniture
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Obama heads to Detroit on Tuesday
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Raw Video: Obama Tours Castle Used for Slavery
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Videos- The "Private" White House Fourth of July Celebration
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Video- CNN: President Obama's Trip To Ghana
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Obama campaign plane emergency could have led to disaster
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Celtic
Jul 12th 2009 at 10:35 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:35 am EDT)
Obama Extends Cheney's Secret Service Protection
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CNN Poll: Do American care if Obama smokes?
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Videos- The Obamas at the Vatican
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Video- President Obama's G8 Press Conference: Highlights
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Summer Fundraiser
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Video- Van Susteren airs video of Obama G8 photo shoot to counter "lying picture that's going around the Web"
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ObamaWorld2008
Jul 13th 2009 at 3:34 am EDT (Updated Jul 13th 2009 at 3:34 am EDT)
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Pictures Of The Day (OBAMA)
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Obama Hails Africa's Promise
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Obama To Americans: Patience On Stimulus Plan
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Obama: Slave Site Reminds Him Of World 'Evil'
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Obama To Attend World Cup In South Africa?
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ObamaWorld2008
Jul 12th 2009 at 10:35 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:35 am EDT)
Obama To Americans: Patience On Stimulus Plan
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Obama: Slave Site Reminds Him Of World 'Evil'
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Obama To Attend World Cup In South Africa?
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ObamaWorld2008
Jul 12th 2009 at 10:33 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:33 am EDT)
Pictures Of The Day (OBAMA)
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Obama Hails Africa's Promise
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Donna No Shock Barack No Drama Obama of MD
Jul 12th 2009 at 10:06 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:06 am EDT)
Good Morning Tori. Congrats on First and much success to your hubby on his website.
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"CZARINA" MARILYN from CRYSTAL BEACH, FLORIDA aka GODDESS OF SMILES and LAUGHTER
Jul 12th 2009 at 10:19 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:19 am EDT)
Hi Baby O!
Whaaaasssup?
It seems you're coming when I'm going lately. I have about an hour before I leave for work. So I get to spend some time with you today.
You have to go to my bio page and read my latest letter to the editors. It's a dandy!
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"CZARINA" MARILYN from CRYSTAL BEACH, FLORIDA aka GODDESS OF SMILES and LAUGHTER
Jul 12th 2009 at 10:17 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:17 am EDT)
HI JBT!
In response to your comment on the previous thread .......
........... You all most never see a republican here at least not for long.............
If I can get even one Republican to come over to our side I will feel a sense of accomplishment. Just like the campaign, one dollar, one city, one state at a time and before you knew it we were many.
You will find in time time that I am ..... the glass is half full girl ..... so for me one is one more than we had. I never under estimate the power of one!
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Hodog
Jul 13th 2009 at 5:59 pm EDT (Updated Jul 13th 2009 at 5:59 pm EDT)
Good idea. Our country would have only had 9 Presidents thus far under your brilliant age requirement. Man someone should have come up with this idea by now. You would think that in 233 years someone would have realized that over 50 is too old to be President.
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sduncan
Jul 12th 2009 at 7:17 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 7:17 pm EDT)
troll
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Lee Church
Jul 12th 2009 at 12:35 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 12:35 pm EDT)
Marilyn,
Having a republican 'come over' is like having lightning strike. People can 'come over' but they are not republicans anymore just as the place struck by lightning is not the same once struck.
Anyway, hope we have thunderstorms soon. :)
-Lee
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Jul 12th 2009 at 7:16 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 7:16 pm EDT)
troll
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Sandy believes: Aint no mountain High Enough
Jul 12th 2009 at 11:03 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 11:03 am EDT)
Good Morning everyone!!! Congrats on 1st.
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jeremyquinn
Jul 12th 2009 at 1:04 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:04 pm EDT)
I love Obama!
MONDAY |
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Stephen C. Rose in NYC
Jul 13th 2009 at 7:09 am EDT (Updated Jul 13th 2009 at 7:09 am EDT)
Twitter contact (Replies only. No DMs. ) @stephencrose
Selection of most recent blog posts LINK:
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Significant Recent Tweets July 12, 2009
Huffington Post's LobbyBlog -- Go There To Post and Find Info on Lobbying Efforts
Write Some Letters for Sonia
Health Care: Obama Ground Game Will Win The Day
Obama Agenda Is The Popular Will -- Blue Dogs and GOP Take Note
Significant Tweets July 8, 2009
Response to Sam Stein's Suggestion That Obama Offers "Vague Reassurance" On Public Option
Video: Chill, Don't Kill
How Permanent Will Doing Good in Afghanistan Be?
Other Blog Posts:
Future of Newspapers: Interactive Map
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Palin and The Power of Resentment
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A List of Senators and Congress Members and Their Receipts from Health Care Interests
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ALL RECENT TWEETS WITH SOURCE LINKS
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◎Desert Dove Dan◎
Jul 12th 2009 at 10:16 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:16 am EDT)
Excellent photo! How about a little canine fun this morning?
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Donna No Shock Barack No Drama Obama of MD
Jul 12th 2009 at 10:25 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:25 am EDT)
Cute :)
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"CZARINA" MARILYN from CRYSTAL BEACH, FLORIDA aka GODDESS OF SMILES and LAUGHTER
Jul 12th 2009 at 10:26 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:26 am EDT)
Hey Dan!
Good Morning! Or is it still the middle of the night where you are?
Check your O Mail!
GOSAL
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◎Desert Dove Dan◎
Jul 12th 2009 at 10:31 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:31 am EDT)
It's actually daylight now but still no air conditioning in the house. I tried everything I could yesterday to no avail so now we have to get the experts out here this morning. Didn't sleep hardly at all. Will check O-mail in a second.
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VA . Greatgran 'Grab A Mop' for President Obama
Jul 12th 2009 at 10:29 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:29 am EDT)
Good Morning Tori and hubby..Congrats on #1
Good Morning,Sduncan.Baby O'Donna and DD Dan.
Good Morning,Strong Heart so good to see you.
Open Hearts |
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Strong Heart
Jul 12th 2009 at 10:17 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:17 am EDT)
Hearth Care!
What would Christ do?
Turn The Tables...
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"CZARINA" MARILYN from CRYSTAL BEACH, FLORIDA aka GODDESS OF SMILES and LAUGHTER
Jul 12th 2009 at 10:20 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:20 am EDT)
AH HA! There's the Strong Heart we know and love.
You truly were missed!
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Donna No Shock Barack No Drama Obama of MD
Jul 12th 2009 at 10:21 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:21 am EDT)
Good Sunday Morning Strong Heart
Turn the Tables in deed
I have missed you. Welcome Home :)
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rich
Jul 12th 2009 at 10:23 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:23 am EDT)
Actually the private health insurance companies will survive and will perform better with competition from a public health insurance plan.
I have private health insurance coverage now and I plan to stick with it -- but I want it to improve -- competition will do that -- me having a choice will do that.
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sduncan
Jul 12th 2009 at 10:26 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:26 am EDT)
Christ believed in Health Care for All!!
He healed the Sick!
Dudddd!!
His healing powers are great, but he needs some help from us.
Health Care for all, we need to care for the sick.
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sduncan
Jul 12th 2009 at 11:40 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 11:40 am EDT)
How do you know that, some of the negativity that I read on these blogs send me to prayer. Believe me, the Lord heals.
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Stan Z- Christian-President Obama Knows His Stuff
Jul 12th 2009 at 10:38 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:38 am EDT)
Sduncan,
I saw Michale Moore make the same argument Strong Heart did on air. He's only saying that it is the moral thing to do. He's not saying we shouldn't fight for it.
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sduncan
Jul 12th 2009 at 11:45 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 11:45 am EDT)
I believe we will only get Health Care for all if we stand up and fight for it.
Each one, teach one and we will win this battle.
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◎Desert Dove Dan◎
Jul 12th 2009 at 10:26 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:26 am EDT)
Hey brother, how are you doing? I'm still recovering from a skin cancer surgery on my upper arm. 4 inch long scar for a half-dollar sized tissue that was removed. Yeah, I have insurance but it's still costing at least a couple grand out of pocket. Wonderful health care system we have, eh?
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Stan Z- Christian-President Obama Knows His Stuff
Jul 12th 2009 at 10:33 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:33 am EDT)
Hi Strong Heart.
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Hodog
Jul 13th 2009 at 6:02 pm EDT (Updated Jul 13th 2009 at 6:02 pm EDT)
I suppose you mean Health care? Hearth care-you just keep the sparks from popping out on your carpet, and screened in.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 10:20 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:20 am EDT)
let's not get feeling blue
about such color dogs in House
whom if they fail to see what's true
will lose their bark and squeal like mouse
I support PO !
(President Obama and Public Option)
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"CZARINA" MARILYN from CRYSTAL BEACH, FLORIDA aka GODDESS OF SMILES and LAUGHTER
Jul 12th 2009 at 10:28 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:28 am EDT)
Rich ........
I posted my best Sunday cheer to you on the previous thread. In case you missed it ........
I'm still on your cheering team, Rich!
I even have my extra large pom poms out this morning!
YEAH TEAM! YEAH PUBLIC OPTION! YEAH POTUS! YEAH RICH!
RAH, RAH, RAH!
Rebuilding Something Better |
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Czarina Vero - who loves her new President - OBAMA!!!!!
Jul 12th 2009 at 10:21 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:21 am EDT)
By Barack Obama
Sunday, July 12, 2009
Nearly six months ago, my administration took office amid the most severe economic downturn since the Great Depression. At the time, we were losing, on average, 700,000 jobs a month. And many feared that our financial system was on the verge of collapse.
Link
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Not the most imaginative title, but our President has written an op-ed in the Washington Post that is a good read. Looks like education and continued training is going to be the focus of the week.
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Kimberly Helen Hussein
Jul 12th 2009 at 10:30 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:30 am EDT)
Who gives a sh*t about the GOP
They have no credibility.
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Kimberly Helen Hussein
Jul 12th 2009 at 10:37 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:37 am EDT)
*yawns*
All presidents poll number take a dive every now and then.
It happened with Bush, Clinton, Bush Sr., Reagan
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Czarina Vero - who loves her new President - OBAMA!!!!!
Jul 12th 2009 at 10:41 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:41 am EDT)
This guy is a troll...and I hate to use that word. He's trying to be cute about it, so I give him points for his slickness.
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Kimberly Helen Hussein
Jul 12th 2009 at 10:53 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:53 am EDT)
lol
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Ron
Jul 13th 2009 at 2:28 am EDT (Updated Jul 13th 2009 at 2:28 am EDT)
Obama doesn't need to pay much attention polls at this point. Maybe around 2012. A leader doesn't govern by polls, which is impossible to do anyway, because they're up & down like an elevator and the stock market. Rather, a leader focuses almost exclusively on solving the problems at hand. That's what Obama's doing. As he should.
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Lil Star
Jul 13th 2009 at 2:01 pm EDT (Updated Jul 13th 2009 at 2:01 pm EDT)
Ron, I agree with you about the polls. Sometimes I think we worry more about the polls than PBO does. I hate that CNN has a poll everyday.That was talked about on this blog before--none of us have ever been asked to participate.i wonder who they poll. Also--it's "news" if PBO's poll numbers go down--so they repeat over and over--" The President's polls are dipping down--has he lost his appeal with the American voters?" --or something like that. I'm sure some people who hear that over and over will start to question their own opinion. That also give a perfect "in" to the Repubs to say " Yes, the American people are starting to realize that he is---yada--dada--------SOCIALI ST--dumb repub lie---dumb repub lie---on and on.And they have at least 2 analyists or three for everything he says or does.I don't watch anymore unless I know PBO is coming on. It gets upsetting!
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VA . Greatgran 'Grab A Mop' for President Obama
Jul 12th 2009 at 10:37 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:37 am EDT)
No more Ms.nice guy...LOL
Good Morning,Kim
Thanks Vero.
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Kimberly Helen Hussein
Jul 12th 2009 at 10:42 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:42 am EDT)
Mornin'!
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Czarina Vero - who loves her new President - OBAMA!!!!!
Jul 12th 2009 at 10:36 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:36 am EDT)
Dude, you're transparent. I can't believe folks like you have nothing better to do than play games on a blog on a Sunday morning.
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VA . Greatgran 'Grab A Mop' for President Obama
Jul 12th 2009 at 10:43 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:43 am EDT)
GAME ENDED!!
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Jul 12th 2009 at 10:45 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:45 am EDT)
word
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Isack Gen44
Jul 12th 2009 at 10:38 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:38 am EDT)
If this is the response from the GOP, then we have nothing to fear.
1/ 95% of americans are getting a tax CUT(NEVER FORGET THAT)!!!
2/ THey the GOP caused this mess
3/ It took them 8 years to cause this mess
4/ The job loss rate has decrease since pbo arrived
5/ The president said it would take years to get things back on track, BUT he also said when we do we do not want to be back where we were. WE need to LAY STRONG FOUNDATIONS (not based on bust and bubble econ), for the jobs of the future, GREEN CLEAN JOBS(solar,biomass,WIND Turbines), fixing our infrastructure, new ELEc GRID, Speed rail system,a strong EDUCATION system, and finally HEALTHCARE THAT LOWERS COST OVERTIME for ALL.
The president is looking not only for now, but for the future of this nation. Only the FEARFUL whine and Yap about the now...they do not have a strategic mind nor the vision to see things yet done. This president does. We all need to support him...and it starts with HEALTH CARE.
Remember: There will not be a recovery until there is a strong health care system that covers all with good quality care, and lowers cost for the gov!
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Jul 12th 2009 at 10:51 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:51 am EDT)
............I don't really understand the anti-tax attitude in this country....
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Jul 12th 2009 at 10:51 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:51 am EDT)
TROLL ALERT!!!!
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"CZARINA" Snicky's Mama Loves this President and First Family
Jul 12th 2009 at 11:48 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 11:48 am EDT)
Hey JB your not fooling anybody
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VA . Greatgran 'Grab A Mop' for President Obama
Jul 12th 2009 at 10:42 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:42 am EDT)
JB,did you read Vero's Link???
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"CZARINA" MARILYN from CRYSTAL BEACH, FLORIDA aka GODDESS OF SMILES and LAUGHTER
Jul 12th 2009 at 10:43 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:43 am EDT)
Screw (sorry) the rethugs. As our dear Nette often says .......
"they don't know their A __ H ___ from a hole in the wall!"
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Jul 12th 2009 at 10:52 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:52 am EDT)
TROLL ALERT!!!!!
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Kimberly Helen Hussein
Jul 12th 2009 at 10:27 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:27 am EDT)
Thanks for posting this Vero
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Donna No Shock Barack No Drama Obama of MD
Jul 12th 2009 at 10:30 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:30 am EDT)
"We must continue to clean up the wreckage of this recession, but it is time to rebuild something better in its place. It won't be easy, and there will continue to be those who argue that we have to put off hard decisions that we have already deferred for far too long. But earlier generations of Americans didn't build this great country by fearing the future and shrinking our dreams. This generation has to show that same courage and determination. I believe we will."
He has inspired me to hope for a better tomorrow everyday of his administration.
May God continue to bless our President, his family and guide his administration through the recovery of our nation.
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Kimberly Helen Hussein
Jul 12th 2009 at 10:34 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:34 am EDT)
President Obama has a vision. I really love his can do spirit- I hope it will rub off on most of the electorate.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 10:39 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:39 am EDT)
I thought this quote said it all:
"Ignoring big challenges and deferring tough decisions is what Washington has done for decades, and it's exactly what I sought to change by running for president."
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Jul 12th 2009 at 2:03 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 2:03 pm EDT)
Governor Martin O'Malley Exhibits Maryland's Recovery Web Tools before Congressional Committee
WASHINGTON, DC (July 8, 2009) -Governor Martin O'Malley testified before the U.S. House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform today, where he exhibited Maryland's nationally-recognized, interactive website that tracks funding from President Obama's American Recovery and Reinvestment Act (ARRA) from it's inception. The Governor joined Governors Edward Rendell (PA) and Deval Patrick (MA) in highlighting ways the states are conforming to federal accountability standards and using technology to achieve new levels of government transparency and efficiency.
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Recovery Act Funding Videos (on C-Span.org)
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Jul 12th 2009 at 10:25 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:25 am EDT)
What If Obama Fails?
He never really promised HE could do a damn thing.
He promised WE can do the JOBS thing, domestic PRODUCTION thing, fair TRADE thing, systemic REFORM thing, and ENERGY, INFRASTRUCTURE, HEALTH, EDUCATION, CLIMATE, etc., things. WE can do it by giving him the money to acquire votes enough to win an election in 2008.
"We can't," it's turning out to be. Because all the leadership can say is, "It would have been worse without us."
They have failed to ask the nation to MOBILIZE, as it did to plan and pay for victory in WW II.
Instead they are wedded to the status quo, where a mindless market waits for shoppers to find the means to finance victory over a world wide depression by buying stuff and cutting costs.
The knowledge that cutting costs cuts buying power too, never crosses the frozen mind.
We have yet no planned domestic re-industrialization or inflation proof domestic development, financed with intentional strategic systems modeled on WW II's money and central banking.
We have yet to bring such planning up to date with inflation protected savings accounts, intense simplification of overhead requirements, the lowest taxes and interest possible, and full advantage taken of computer power today that was unimagined in 1944.
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Kimberly Helen Hussein
Jul 12th 2009 at 10:31 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:31 am EDT)
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sduncan
Jul 12th 2009 at 2:49 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 2:49 pm EDT)
We already know what a failed President is - George W. Bush. Now you can learn what a great President does.
Yes We Can bring about real change in Washington under real leadership.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 10:28 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:28 am EDT)
Will be on The Daily Show Wednesday
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Jul 12th 2009 at 10:36 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:36 am EDT)
The Obamas' day in Ghana
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Jul 12th 2009 at 10:56 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:56 am EDT)
I looked at the link and heard in my mind
"We are the world
We are the children
We are the ones who make a brighter day"
SO thanks to KHH, the children and Michael Jackson!
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"CZARINA" MARILYN from CRYSTAL BEACH, FLORIDA aka GODDESS OF SMILES and LAUGHTER
Jul 12th 2009 at 10:45 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:45 am EDT)
I bet if you're real nice our "Master of Entertainment", Desert Dove Dan will post a lullaby!
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Jul 12th 2009 at 11:54 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 11:54 am EDT)
Hey Marilyn
JB is trying to be all cute, clever and sweet but just go back and read their posts again
They don't know their ass from a hole in the wall
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Jul 12th 2009 at 10:41 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:41 am EDT)
I have the TV off cause i cannot deal with the lies and deceptions. But will i have to turn this site off too? Here is a message for all who come here with dumb points they learned from the Twisted US media that continues to lie to the public JUST LIKE DICK CHENEY DID ABOUT THE HIDDEN CIA PROGRAM.
1/ 95% of americans are getting a tax CUT(NEVER FORGET THAT)!!!
2/ THey the GOP caused this mess
3/ It took them 8 years to cause this mess
4/ The job loss rate has decrease since pbo arrived
5/ The president said it would take years to get things back on track, BUT he also said when we do we do not want to be back where we were. WE need to LAY STRONG FOUNDATIONS (not based on bust and bubble econ), for the jobs of the future, GREEN CLEAN JOBS(solar,biomass,WIND Turbines), fixing our infrastructure, new ELEc GRID, Speed rail system,a strong EDUCATION system, and finally HEALTHCARE THAT LOWERS COST OVERTIME for ALL.
The president is looking not only for now, but for the future of this nation. Only the FEARFUL whine and Yap about the now...they do not have a strategic mind nor the vision to see things yet done. This president does. We all need to support him...and it starts with HEALTH CARE.
Remember: There will not be a recovery until there is a strong health care system that covers all with good quality care, and lowers cost for the gov!
(THE US MEDIA LIES TO YOU ABOUT EVERYTHING) WAKE UP PEOPLE!
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"CZARINA" MARILYN from CRYSTAL BEACH, FLORIDA aka GODDESS OF SMILES and LAUGHTER
Jul 12th 2009 at 10:47 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:47 am EDT)
Well said but ............
Did you bring your laptop to the beach? Thought you would be basking in the sun by now! LOL!
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Isack Gen44
Jul 12th 2009 at 11:00 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 11:00 am EDT)
actually YES how did you know? Omail me and i will send you a picture of the beach.
LOL
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"CZARINA" MARILYN from CRYSTAL BEACH, FLORIDA aka GODDESS OF SMILES and LAUGHTER
Jul 12th 2009 at 11:13 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 11:13 am EDT)
Check your O Mail, Isack.
I just sent you my beach and now I'll wait for yours! LOL!!
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Jul 12th 2009 at 10:51 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:51 am EDT)
if anyone thinks that this economy is going to get better in in 2 days then I question their mental state of being!!!
the bush administration didn't even tell you this there was a recession until it was over a 1 year later!
and you trust the republicans to tell you the truth!
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Jul 12th 2009 at 11:57 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 11:57 am EDT)
The rodents are out in force today. Since they only come out when they are scared we must be doing something right.
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Jul 13th 2009 at 2:55 am EDT (Updated Jul 13th 2009 at 2:55 am EDT)
Obama claims ARRA has & will put the brakes on the job losses. Trust the man, Russ. Give him til 2012 at least. His approach, borrowing his way out of the recession/depression, is no worse than the GOP's solution, if they even have one that's plausible.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 10:43 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:43 am EDT)
Hey guys,
This "JBTurner", or whatever is suspect. Anyway, I saw that he asked Marilyn about o-mail. I would be very careful who you o-mail and communicate with outside of the open comments here.
Just read over the comments from this thread and the last one, and read them with a suspicious eye.
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"CZARINA" MARILYN from CRYSTAL BEACH, FLORIDA aka GODDESS OF SMILES and LAUGHTER
Jul 12th 2009 at 10:46 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:46 am EDT)
:-) We're on the same page this morning, Vero!
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Jul 12th 2009 at 10:52 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:52 am EDT)
I figured as much. I just wanted everyone to be on notice.
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"CZARINA" MARILYN from CRYSTAL BEACH, FLORIDA aka GODDESS OF SMILES and LAUGHTER
Jul 12th 2009 at 11:02 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 11:02 am EDT)
OH JBT!
That was not nice. Our beloved Vero is our legal expert here and we all know her and love her.
Don't you go be using terms like rethug at her! UH UH!!
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Czarina Vero - who loves her new President - OBAMA!!!!!
Jul 12th 2009 at 11:26 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 11:26 am EDT)
I don't mind people being critical of Obama. In fact, when the criticism is honest and in good faith, it's a good thing. My issue with you is that you're not being up front about your intentions, that's all.
I'm done with you. You are free to post whatever and however you want...but I just want people to be real.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 11:05 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 11:05 am EDT)
Dear jb, i have heard enough of you, here in ofamily we have the right to speak our opinion and we have the right to be suspisious of you, because you have come here to keep post bad about president obama. I just want to let you know , you might as well quit while you are ahead, because you're not going to win here. And one more thing, here in obama blog we are all family, so you are coming talking smack and you are going to get insulee
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Jul 12th 2009 at 10:49 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:49 am EDT)
Too bad despite all my warnings to you (even when many of you attack me), you do not have the equipment to see the ip addresses of the Troll with many names. I keep telling you that, but i give up. The IP address is the SAME for the same TROLL. He just keeps changing names, but it is showing as the same.
Ignore and report. It works because the Idiot keeps changing its name...which means he is being blocked
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Jul 12th 2009 at 1:28 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:28 pm EDT)
Isack, I agree with you. During the election campaign we were most successful when we just scrolled past the posts and ignored. When that didn't happen the whole thread was dominated with the invaders' agenda. It was called hijacking but it was attributed to our responding to the posts instead of ignoring them.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 10:49 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:49 am EDT)
Vero,not to worry,"that one" was easily obvious.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 10:47 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:47 am EDT)
He says to
scrap the Health care bill, scap the cap and trade and cut taxes and that would help the economy get back on track.
Well stupid Bill before Obama was in office you didn't have any of those bills on the table and the economy was still in the da** ditch!@!!
that was the most crazy and insane comment I have heard in a long time!!! and this dude is helping to run things in the republican party!!
oh ye not forget he gave the republicans the grand idea of SARAH PALIN!!! a "nutty puppy" who just quit on the people who hired her to run their state! what a nut!!!! And continues to spout out nothing but lies!!!
I am sick of the republicans, the party of NO, the party that is out of ideas, out of touch and out time with people!!!
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Lydia from Durham, NC
Jul 12th 2009 at 10:49 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:49 am EDT)
He was really ugly!
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Jul 12th 2009 at 11:35 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 11:35 am EDT)
Republican need to apologise to Nancy Pelosi period they attacked nancy pelosi about the CIA story they say she was lying
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Jul 12th 2009 at 10:52 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:52 am EDT)
Who cares about Bill Kristol? Even the Republicans don't like him.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 10:56 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:56 am EDT)
LOL!!!!
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Jul 12th 2009 at 10:56 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:56 am EDT)
Laura Ingram is an idiot she just says your health care is going to be rationed more than it is now rationed now!!
so yes, she finally tells the truth your health is being rationed right now!! BY YOUR INSURANCE COMPANY!!!!
THANKS LAURA FOR TELLING THE TRUTH!!! you are nut!
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Jul 12th 2009 at 10:56 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:56 am EDT)
Oh i am soo Happy i chose to ignore these morning shows.... lol. Here is a secret for you cynthia:
THE US corporate media has ALWAYS lied to the public just like Dick Cheney did with the CIA hidden program. THe media has continuously MISLED the people...how else is it that they are able to make some question WHAT IS THEIR RIGHTS? How is it possible that the Media/GOP laugh at the Canadian health Care system, while 82% of canadian would rather keep theirs than join the us's? How is it that the Media can report that the Public Option is BAD, then say that if it is created, most people would go for it??
The US MEDIA expects the people to be DUMB, and they expect people will NEVER WAKE UP from the nightmares we live. And guess what:
SUNDAY MORNING SHOWS are a METHOD OF BRAINWASHING that goes straight to the subsconscious. I know because i had been feeling that way about a month ago. I would turn on John Kings show, then feel sick, and apprehensive. Then i would turn it off, and FEEL GREAT!
US MEDIA LIES ALL THE TIME TO THE PEOPLE.
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Kimberly Helen Hussein
Jul 12th 2009 at 11:02 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 11:02 am EDT)
No one I know watches these shows.
They are a waste of time- I only watch them if a member of the O-team is on.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 11:03 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 11:03 am EDT)
you know I have not watched in awhile and my tv was on that channel after I turned it off last night and boy I should have turned them off.
but, it just amazes me how they sit there and just lie and people buy into it.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 11:03 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 11:03 am EDT)
well, we could open up several jobs if we scrap Bill Kristol!
This is it -- fire people with many jobs/titles. Several jobs to be filled for each, but only one new unemployed person...
So net result is great numbers for employment figures!
Let's go for it Cynthia TX!
Please, keep coming up with more people for our special project on fixing the jobs numbers!
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Jul 12th 2009 at 11:06 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 11:06 am EDT)
add George Will
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Jul 12th 2009 at 11:11 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 11:11 am EDT)
Good one -- several more jobs open, only 1 more unemployed...
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Jul 13th 2009 at 3:04 am EDT (Updated Jul 13th 2009 at 3:04 am EDT)
The health care bill and cap 'n' trade ain't even through the Congress yet. What the hell is Kristol talking about? Cut taxes? But as Brad from Midlothian says, only 55% of Americans pay them. What would a tax cut do to O.'s supersize budget and supersize deficit the GOP are always complaining about? Moreoever, a large part of the tax cut would go into savings accounts, not into purchases, as stats show Americans have turned into savers, not consumers, in this recession/depression we're having, and the U.S. economy has heretofore been 70% a consumer-driven machine. Kristol needs to rethink his opinions.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 10:52 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:52 am EDT)
I am headed out for vacation to the beach this week in a couple of hours. I give you a heed of warning. THEY ARE BECOMING MORE AND MORE CLEVER. Don't allow them to distract you.
Stay focused this week. Make those calls and continue to write your letters. Use the support tool on the site here for Judge Sotomayor. It's gonna get ugly this week. The party of NO will rear their heads in opposition to her SC nomination.
I have been writing the White House for the last couple of weeks asking them to do some nationwide health care reform rallies. One in the mid west and one out west and here in the east. No one can sell Health Care Reform like our President.
This way they can solicit volunteers to canvass and make calls by having us fill out the cards when we enter the rally similar to the way they did it during the campaign.
I know this is unconventional but we need to think outside of the box when you are up against lobbyist who are spending over a million dollars each day.
I think people have become desensitized to the emails but they will still stand in lines and come from far and wide to here the President speak in person. I have nothing against the town halls and he should continue to do this for affected areas of the country.
Think of the press coverage that these large rallies would get.
If you think this is a good idea please join me in requesting that the Administration consider this. www.whitehouse.com
My vacation reading: Renegade by Richard Wolfe
Have a great week
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Jul 12th 2009 at 10:58 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:58 am EDT)
HAVE FUN!!!!!!!!
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Jul 12th 2009 at 11:03 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 11:03 am EDT)
Have a great time on your vacation!!!! Please don't forget the sun block.:)
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Jul 12th 2009 at 11:03 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 11:03 am EDT)
Good idea Donna. Do you mean to tell us though that we won't be seeing you here for a week? How am I going to survive? I need my daily fix of the O-Sensations, especially Baby O-Donna! But I know, you need your time off and you SO deserve it!
Have a great time and bring us back some crab cakes, okay?
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Jul 12th 2009 at 11:10 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 11:10 am EDT)
Dan, my Aunt's place has a pier and just at sunset is the perfect time to catch them. We have our chicken skins and the crab crates ready to go so I plan to eat me quite a few Maryland Crabs this week. :)
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Jul 12th 2009 at 11:10 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 11:10 am EDT)
Have a good vacation, Donna!
I searched the OFA events for my zip code.
Next week OFA is calling for more and more action.
I am guessing by Monday evening/Tuesday morning there will be even more.
Also, I think I saw a President's long term travel schedule that suggested large events in different places... Anyone have a link for that?
I hope you find some good action near your vacation spot! No rest for the ... not-wicked!
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"CZARINA" MARILYN from CRYSTAL BEACH, FLORIDA aka GODDESS OF SMILES and LAUGHTER
Jul 12th 2009 at 11:12 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 11:12 am EDT)
WAAAAAA! SOB! BOO HOO!
No Baby O Donna for a week! OH NO!
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VA . Greatgran 'Grab A Mop' for President Obama
Jul 12th 2009 at 11:13 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 11:13 am EDT)
Donna,
I had a majority of college and first time voters
on my neighbor to neighbor calls.Most wanted to
recieve emals on what's going on now.Had no idea
about rallies yet.I contacted the Tel# associated
with the neighbor project,w/info.
It is important that we have the emails of this
energetic group.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 11:28 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 11:28 am EDT)
Hi VAgg.
Oh I agree that we still need the emails. I just want to add the rally part for those who are not paying as close attention now that we have gotten our President elected.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 11:18 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 11:18 am EDT)
Have a wonderful vacation,O'Baby Donna,your taking a great read with you.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 11:25 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 11:25 am EDT)
Be careful out there Donna and party like it's 2009.
:-)
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Jul 12th 2009 at 11:25 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 11:25 am EDT)
Be careful out there Donna and party like it's 2009.
:-)
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Jul 12th 2009 at 11:33 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 11:33 am EDT)
Thanks Eveyone!
Later
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Jul 12th 2009 at 10:53 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:53 am EDT)
I just love this one:
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Barack Obama - Cool Change
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Jul 12th 2009 at 10:58 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:58 am EDT)
And this is one of the first videos I uploaded way back when:
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Let's Dance - with Barack & Michelle
(check out the Hillary/Barack look-a-likes break dancing on the street)
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Jul 12th 2009 at 10:59 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:59 am EDT)
Dan,
That is my all timefavorite from you. The song by Little River Band is perfect.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 11:06 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 11:06 am EDT)
Thanks so much Cilla. I always think of you when I listen to this. We have been blog buddies for such a long time now, haven't we? You were one of the first people I made friends with here and I still appreciate it.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 11:05 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 11:05 am EDT)
Nice videos, thanks:)
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Jul 12th 2009 at 11:02 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 11:02 am EDT)
These roller babies are just too cute:
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Enjoy :>)
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Jul 12th 2009 at 11:04 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 11:04 am EDT)
Gonna help my mother garden!
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Jul 12th 2009 at 11:06 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 11:06 am EDT)
Great speech in Ghana, but i guess the historic moment at G8 is not so historic. What the world need is to repower. So please start to Repower America
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And the easiest way to combat climate change is of course change of our habits:
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And please listen for a few minutes to this little girl.
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Unfortunately she is still right and nothing has changed so far.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 12:04 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 12:04 pm EDT)
Brad I'm sure the ultra rich overstuffed shirts your fighting for appreciate you doing their dirty work while you try scrap a few pennies to get by
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Jul 13th 2009 at 3:14 am EDT (Updated Jul 13th 2009 at 3:14 am EDT)
Cap 'n' trade won't happen all at once, and nobody's suggesting the U.S. suddenly stop using its own coal, oil and natural gas. I agree there should be more emphasis on nuclear-generated electricity. Maybe the reason there's not is that nuclear power plants cost a lot to build. Storage of nuclear waste is only a political problem, not a physical one.
If there are no efforts such as cap 'n' trade to reduce carbon emissions, the planet will continue to degrade at a greater rate than it already is, until it's no longer fit for human habitation.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 11:36 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 11:36 am EDT)
It is already happening.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 2:53 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 2:53 pm EDT)
A truly pathetic attempt to get a rise out of people.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 11:19 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 11:19 am EDT)
What is you stance on Al-Qaeda in parts of Afghanistan and
In Iraq what are the two main factions that had or is still fighting?
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Jul 12th 2009 at 11:27 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 11:27 am EDT)
What do you think about Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan?
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Jul 12th 2009 at 11:28 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 11:28 am EDT)
Prof asked what is YOUR stance. Not PBO's (which you misstated, but whatever).
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Jul 12th 2009 at 11:33 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 11:33 am EDT)
Hey Vero;
it seems that JB is avoiding my questions. Very interesting.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 11:49 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 11:49 am EDT)
I said your stance not PBO's. Your stance on Afghanistan.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 12:09 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 12:09 pm EDT)
Please do not forget - Iraq has a government and is a sovereign nation. Bush entered into the Status of Forces Agreement with the Iraqi government for our withdrawal from their country. Obama is abiding by that agreement. THE IRAQIS WANT US OUT OF THEIR COUNTRY.
While Obama always favored us drawing down in Iraq, BUSH AND CHENEY solidified our withdrawal with that agreement. Iraq has asked us to leave. Iraq celebrated us LEAVING them. How do you think that makes our military feel? We lost over 4,000 men and women there. 10s of thousands are injured from fighting there. And they clapped, danced, set off fireworks, and celebrated our exit. Where are the expressions of thanks? Where is the Iraqi government's reaching out to our country expressing gratitude?
It is immoral what we did to that country, to our country, and most of all to our military.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 12:32 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 12:32 pm EDT)
We had no business being in Iraq in the first place. We are simply cleaning up Bush's mess as responsibly as possible.
Thousands of lives have been lost and injured on both sides for nothing! Bush did not even get the oil he was really after
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Jul 12th 2009 at 12:43 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 12:43 pm EDT)
I have no problem, one way or another, with leaving the Iraq situation for Bush. That is his baby. That is his legacy. The thousands dead, the thousands injured, the countless killed and displaced Iraqis....that's on him. Saddam is gone, and the Kurds are now stepping into the power vacuum against the wishes of the other parts of the country.
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And when they have elections, let us pray that we don't see what happened in Gaza, where a democratically elected terrorist group, or anti-American group, takes over.
As I said, I have no problem giving Iraq and what happens there to Bush. I am also not going to let Bush squirm away from Afganistan. That is his baby too...and you and I both know that is a war that we are losing, and had been for the past few years. We cannot forget that Bush wanted Osama, "dead or alive." That he wanted to create a stable Afganistan where terrorists couldn't plot and plan attacks. None of that was even remotely accomplished and instead, we see a stronger Taliban, a more embedded al Qaeda, and a spreading extremism to nuclear Pakistan.
But you keep focused on the shiny object that is Iraq, when the real danger, the difficult task of Afganistan was virtually ignored by Bush.
In the end, I'm confident that Obama will do all that is necessary to safeguard our troops and to not let Iraq slip into chaos. That's his duty as C-in-C. Whether or not he agrees with our involvement, he inherited it. Same goes with Afganistan. Just as he's doing with the auto industry, the financial industry, the economy, the wars, our climate problem, our health care problem, Obama will retool and refocus us on those missions.
I think you can be honest that no president in our lifetimes has inherited this many challenges. The least we can do is to stop lobbing political bombs at each other. But I can't hope for much from someone who disguises his motives on a damn blog.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 1:03 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:03 pm EDT)
Oops...looks like you forgot to switch back to JB for this conversation.
Anyway, I'm not surprised you can find quotes from people within the government, since they were all being fed the same cooked up evidence from Bush and Cheney's crooked intelligence people.
But the bottom line, Brad/Rusty/JB is that Bush was the President. Just like you want to lay all of the problems going on, on the feet of Obama, you must do the same with Bush.
You can find a million and one quotes from my mom if you want, talking about weapons of mass destruction and Saddam, and that doesn't change the fact that Bush, as President and Commander-in-Chief, chose to invade Iraq. Bush chose to forget about Afganistan. Bush chose to not have a plan to stabilize the political situation in Iraq after removing Saddam. Bush chose not to have a plan for helping them divvy up oil. And Bush signed the SOFA for our withdrawal, which Cheney is no poo-poo'ing.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 12:23 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 12:23 pm EDT)
And JB turner- the surge you call it(A McCain Term) it was Not only our military that help to ease the fighting. It was the civil war between the Sunnis and the Sheas since the Unbar Provence.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 11:22 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 11:22 am EDT)
Time for GOSAL to go off to work. My boat and oars await me!
In between customers I will be planning tomorrow's plan of attack.
We will have to multi task this week. Stay with the HCR battle and give our shout outs for SCOTUS.
VA GG! My lunch????
Have a great day O Family!
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Jul 12th 2009 at 11:26 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 11:26 am EDT)
You got Gosal.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 11:31 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 11:31 am EDT)
Have a great day GOSAL. I'll be back on Friday. :)
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Jul 12th 2009 at 11:22 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 11:22 am EDT)
Here's a link on whitehouse.gov that gives audio for President Obama's Accra speech and full text in English, French, Arabic, Portuguese and Swahili.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 11:29 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 11:29 am EDT)
Thanks Peg.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 11:59 am EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 11:59 am EDT)
Hey Brad how your front lawn lemonade stand doing?
Still selling it for a nickle a glass?
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Jul 12th 2009 at 12:13 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 12:13 pm EDT)
I though you said you had to go for a diaper change JB?
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Jul 12th 2009 at 12:03 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 12:03 pm EDT)
Hi Guys. I miss the site. It's been awile. It's so peacful and calm here compared to the conservative site I have been going to in the past few days just to see how they operate and to talk up President Obama. I like getting unser their skin. As you all know -- they operate from mis-information and hate. The site is townhall.com
Brad, you are mumbling there. I don't understand a thing your are saying.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 12:10 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 12:10 pm EDT)
What do you make of the Washington Post story, VA Gg? Seems I'm not the only one wondering what in the world is going on in the realteive quiet of the Virginia governor's race. Here's the link:
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Here are a couple of quotes from it:
"To a degree rarely seen in state politics, Democrat R. Creigh Deeds and Republican Robert F. McDonnell have spent the early summer hunkered down, amassing resources and plotting strategy for what is expected to be a fierce clash of styles and ideas. They are girding for a campaign that is viewed as a bellwether of President Obama's sway with voters and a first test of the issues that Republicans hope will revive their party."
"…In New Jersey, the only other state with a governor's race this year, both candidates are airing TV ads, and the issues are largely defined in a race focused on the performance of Gov. Jon S. Corzine (D). Obama will travel there next week to campaign on Corzine's behalf."
"Many in Virginia still consider Labor Day the unofficial kickoff of election season, but the dynamics in the governor's race probably will change well before then. The first debate between gubernatorial candidates is scheduled July 25 at the Homestead Resort. The candidates will have little choice but to engage each other, at least for a day."
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Jul 12th 2009 at 12:38 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 12:38 pm EDT)
It's no maybe. President Obama is definitely coming to NJ for a big rally with Gov. Corzine.
Michael Steele bailed on the G-NO-P candidate Chris Christie. Also Chris Christie doesn't want Gov. Quit (oops Palin) to campaign on his behalf.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 12:48 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 12:48 pm EDT)
Hooray, Andrea!
Let us know if/when you need people to come up to NJ and knock on doors with you guys to get that Governor in place. We need to show folks we still can get out the vote even when the President isn't running!
When is the registration deadline in NJ?
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Jul 12th 2009 at 12:56 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 12:56 pm EDT)
Here is a link to Gov. Corzine's website
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October 13th is the last day to register for the general election.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 1:03 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:03 pm EDT)
thanks for the link for volunteering!
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Jul 13th 2009 at 4:12 am EDT (Updated Jul 13th 2009 at 4:12 am EDT)
Make sure you stay to the cities with that door Knocking the rednecks in the outskirts are defiantly not Obama\Corzine friendly. we see Corzine as another goldman sachs flunkie friend of Obama's. if you still believe the goldman sachs hired thieves have your best interest at heart watch this vid.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 12:51 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 12:51 pm EDT)
Thur July 16th President Obama will at the PNC Arts Center.
"Hopefully today," Wilson added early Friday afternoon -- hours after learning that President Barack Obama will appear Thursday at the PNC Arts Center in Holmdel, and not at Rutgers University in New Brunswick, when he visits New Jersey for a campaign rally for Gov. Jon S. Corzine.
"I don't know why he switched from Rutgers to the Arts Center," Wilson said. But, "they can change their plans. He's the president."
The Corzine campaign announced the change in venue Thursday, saying it was necessary to accommodate a larger than expected crowd. More than 50,000 people have signed up through the governor's Web site, hoping to attend the rally, and Rutgers could hold only about 5,000 people.
Some 17,500 will be allowed into the rally."
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Jul 12th 2009 at 12:56 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 12:56 pm EDT)
Oh wow-- this seems to be moving toward the rally type event that Donna was wanting to happen!
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Jul 12th 2009 at 12:58 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 12:58 pm EDT)
I cannot go to this rally :( BUT I will be watching all the coverage. NJN (local PBS) will probably do the best job.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 12:12 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 12:12 pm EDT)
I feel such peace and calm when I come on this site. It feels warm and inviting. Positive and friendly.
Ever try visitng those convervative, wing nut sites? The atmosphere feels stressed and strained.
Weird.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 12:24 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 12:24 pm EDT)
I think I here your mama calling you JB. It's time for strained carrots and banana pudding
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Jul 12th 2009 at 12:38 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 12:38 pm EDT)
I have job. Seems to be your the one who can't rub to nickels together yet you are willing to work over time to make sure the rich guy can keep more of his money
You just the kind of misinformed under educated middle class person the GOP prey upon.
Just keep carrying the water Bradly boy but don't expect them to thank you. Their goal is keep you right where you.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 12:20 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 12:20 pm EDT)
Here in Missouri we are being asked by OFA staff to do phone banking and canvassing for health care reform with a Public option. Before that "ask", we the grassroots supporters had already collected 750 signatures on a petition for our 9th District Congressman...a pathetic right winger.
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We all had the air knocked out of us by Rahm Emmanuel's tepid support for the Public option in his NT Times interview.
IMHO he needs to get straight with the program or get canned...until that happens, how can I ask independents on a canvass to support the president? Enough of Emmanuel bucking the President!
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Jul 12th 2009 at 12:26 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 12:26 pm EDT)
I believe that one of Rahm's brother is the the insurance business.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 3:25 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 3:25 pm EDT)
Ezekiel Emanuel is the chair of the Department of Bioethics at the Clinical Center of the National Institutes of Health. He is the author or co-author of several books, including No Margin, No Mission: Health-Care Organizations and the Quest for Ethical Excellence. Dr. Emanuel is the brother of Rahm Emanuel, President Barack Obama's chief of staff. His other brother is a Hot Shot Agent in Hollywood.
Neither work for the insurance industry.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 12:28 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 12:28 pm EDT)
I'm sure there is an explaination. Everyone knows President Obama supports a strong public option.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 12:38 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 12:38 pm EDT)
BillinMidMO,
Nice picture of you with the Doctor in your profile!
Not sure what you mean "his [Emmanuel's] NT Times interview."
Do you have a link?
I am very sure that President Obama's Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel is both loyal and capable.
Last week there was a big flap related to some odd readings of an article in the WSJ -- it wasn't an interview. Is the same odd reading you are talking about?
We cannot attack those on our side and divide our forces if we want to get Health Care Reform passed this year.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 12:47 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 12:47 pm EDT)
Why are people reading into every little statement of Rahm, or whomever?
No public option and the majority of Democratic voters are unhappy. Those are the stakes.
So let Rahm and whoever say tepidly or strongly different things about the public option. Every article I've been reading on HCR is so screwed up and littered with non-quotes, misquotes, and anonymous sources. This is a game. I don't care how they play it, I only care that in the end there is a strong public option. I think most Dems feel this way too, and Obama and his team get that. No public option and this is a lost moment.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 1:57 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:57 pm EDT)
You cannot even trust journalists' exact quotes in the newspapers. When I attended the Eugene Rally during the Primary the local paper interviewed three of us before and after the rally as we were towards the front of the line waiting to get in. When the paper article came out with quotes on what I had said it wasn't even close. The reporter seemed to be writing things down but reinterpreted what we three said yet had quotes around his own words.
This has happened many times for different reasons in my lifetime so I do not value what is written as being accurate anymore. It is an interpretation of what the other person meant by the reporter. Some are unable to get past their own bias so they reinterpret everything and never really have good listening skills to be able to understand what has really been said or have no intention to pass that on but to only push their own agenda.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 12:22 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 12:22 pm EDT)
Some distractions from our agenda of healthcare, energy and education are worthwhile and proper.
The reluctance to investigate war crimes is ethically similar to a reluctance to look at slavery. It was 'convienient' to let slavery continue - the 'national interest', economy, etc. all benefited from slavery - yet a moral imperative existed to end slavery just as a moral imperative exists to investigate (and prosecute as appropriate) the war crimes of torture.
It's not only the law, it is a moral foundation for humanity.
From a political view, an investigation will certainly stop the arguments that all the nation's problems were created by the present administration & democratic Congress and squarely frame up those opposed to everything Obama does in the proper light. Our foreign moral authority is undermined by our failure to hold ourselves accountable for these war crimes and weakens our claim for "American exceptionalism". This in turn undermines one of our greatest traditional strenths, our 'word'.
Holder's decision should disregard the politics, and the Whitehouse should publicly 'resist'. It's important we proceed with an the prosecution of crimes of torture, and although arguably committed against a smaller number of people than slavery, is just as severe to the people it effected.
I hope the recent visit in Ghana should make the moral imperative to prosecute war crimes clear to Barack. I'm ok wit keeping the public face of 'looking forward', but we are best served from cleaning up the past first.
-Lee
oh, an article on Holder and possibility on a war crime investigation.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 12:36 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 12:36 pm EDT)
You all know that BRAD AND JBTURNER are the same person, right?
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Jul 12th 2009 at 12:43 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 12:43 pm EDT)
Yup Yup
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Jul 12th 2009 at 12:52 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 12:52 pm EDT)
rainy,
Brad and JB are not the 'benefit' of distractions I was referring to!
but thanks for making the very valid point that all 'distractions' are not created equal :)
Engage these folks, or not as you choose, but definately don't let them control the discussion ("never let the enemy choose the field of battle").
regards,
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Jul 12th 2009 at 1:14 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:14 pm EDT)
Definately a great day to spend in my backyard.
silly season is upon us.. as we expected.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 12:52 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 12:52 pm EDT)
Yes. I believe Rusty will be joining soon too.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 1:00 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:00 pm EDT)
I suppose it's a great day for me to step out in my backyard and watch the bald eagles fish on the beach.
-Lee
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Jul 12th 2009 at 1:03 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:03 pm EDT)
I'm heading out after Geithner's interview with Fareed on CNN.
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Jul 13th 2009 at 4:21 am EDT (Updated Jul 13th 2009 at 4:21 am EDT)
here's a Geithner interview you won't want to miss
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Jul 12th 2009 at 1:00 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:00 pm EDT)
like a one person tag team
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Jul 12th 2009 at 12:33 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 12:33 pm EDT)
Guess what. Iraq war had nothing to do with 9/11 jack. We went in to Iraq war because Bush lied and added cost us billions of dollars to our deficit for a lie!
CHECK MATE!
I knew you where a Republican Operative. Your speech betray you.
By the way the Term Surged was used first by (McCain)and the ditto heads along with the media ditto the saying!
Check mate again.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 12:46 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 12:46 pm EDT)
You don't fool anyone.
We know your Modus Operandi.
The typical Non-sequitur repetitive doggerel.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 12:39 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 12:39 pm EDT)
Guess what. Iraq war had nothing to do with 9/11 jack. We went in to Iraq war because Bush lied and added cost us billions of dollars to our deficit for a lie!
CHECK MATE!
I knew you where a Republican Operative. Your speech betray you.
By the way the Term Surged was used first by (McCain)and the ditto heads along with the media ditto the saying!
Check mate again
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Jul 12th 2009 at 12:42 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 12:42 pm EDT)
Professor X... the paid bloggers are not even original anymore. They try to come off as clever or witty but actually are quite corny.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 12:41 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 12:41 pm EDT)
You seem to enjoy yourself here
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Jul 12th 2009 at 12:47 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 12:47 pm EDT)
Miss Nettie you noticed that too?
Amazing isn't it?
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Jul 12th 2009 at 1:23 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:23 pm EDT)
Oh yes Andrea
quite amuzing
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Jul 12th 2009 at 12:49 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 12:49 pm EDT)
Nettie,
It seems the TROLLS are scrambling like ROACHES when the lights are turned on.....
They come on this blog to get attention.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 12:51 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 12:51 pm EDT)
JBTURNER IS BRAD!
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Jul 12th 2009 at 1:15 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:15 pm EDT)
Now that was just dumb Mr. JB Rusty Nail Cohran.
You suck at trolling. Your employeers want their money back
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Jul 12th 2009 at 1:07 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:07 pm EDT)
And Rusty Nail:)
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Jul 12th 2009 at 12:41 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 12:41 pm EDT)
Obama is not becoming like GW Bush, you wish.
President Obama always said the road to change will not be easy and met with obstacles.
Look, President Obama has a ton of mess to clean up. GW Bush left us with a whole lot of garbage to clean. He's handling the clean up pretty good and progess is being made.
Wow, wing nuts expect progress within 6 months when it took GW Bush 8 years to get us to this point.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 12:48 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 12:48 pm EDT)
I meant to say:
Wow, wing nuts expect results within 6 months when it took GW Bush 8 years to get us to this point.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 12:49 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 12:49 pm EDT)
Yes his is very typical. He is a ditto head.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 3:16 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 3:16 pm EDT)
Uh, J.B.; Obama said he WOULD raise taxes on the wealthy ~ over $250,000/ per year, and give tax breaks to those earning less.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 12:56 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 12:56 pm EDT)
You must be related to Rusty Nail. You sure sound like him.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 1:09 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:09 pm EDT)
The chemicals in my food and air must be getting to me.
Retail Probably Rose, Factory Slump Eased: U.S. Economy Preview |
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Jul 12th 2009 at 12:48 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 12:48 pm EDT)
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July 12 (Bloomberg) -- Retail sales in the U.S. probably increased in June for a second straight month and factory production fell at a slower pace as the recession abated, economists said before reports this week.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 12:54 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 12:54 pm EDT)
You all know that BRAD AND JBTURNER is the same person, right?
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Jul 12th 2009 at 1:16 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:16 pm EDT)
It's already getting near 'back to school' time so that should give sales a boost.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 1:25 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:25 pm EDT)
I think so too Kim. I can only imagine retailers will have lower prices anyway to attract more customers, so although sales may not reach the original predictions, they will be significant enough for a big boost.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 12:52 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 12:52 pm EDT)
Non-sequitur repetitive doggerel.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 1:09 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:09 pm EDT)
What's the matter Brad having trouble keeping everything straight or is it time for Rusty Nail to make an appearence now?
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Jul 12th 2009 at 1:28 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:28 pm EDT)
I will put my finances up against yours anytime and don't have look in the couch for loose change to make ends meet
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Jul 12th 2009 at 1:10 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:10 pm EDT)
Note to the bad guys:
You tried hard to win during the election and lost.
Sincerely,
The Good Guys
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Jul 12th 2009 at 1:17 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:17 pm EDT)
X-D
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Jul 12th 2009 at 1:03 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:03 pm EDT)
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July 12 (Bloomberg) -- Senators from both political parties predicted Sonia Sotomayor won't face a filibuster on her nomination to the U.S. Supreme Court.
Senator John Cornyn, a Republican from Texas, said on "Fox News Sunday" that he expects the nomination will get a straight up-or-down vote, and that he doesn't think there will be a filibuster. Sotomayor's confirmation hearings begin tomorrow in Washington.
"I think she'll be given a fair hearing," Cornyn said.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 1:14 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:14 pm EDT)
She better get a fair hearing; cause they don't know who they are fooling with.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 1:17 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:17 pm EDT)
Got that right!
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Jul 12th 2009 at 1:15 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:15 pm EDT)
There's not a enough votes for that nonsense.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 1:19 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:19 pm EDT)
I can't wait till we get our Strong Public Option passed.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 1:21 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:21 pm EDT)
Prof. X, don't worry we will get it done. Believe that.
Don't let the Beltway Bullcrap fool you.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 1:19 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:19 pm EDT)
Exactly. He is stating the obvious.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 1:25 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:25 pm EDT)
Thanks you guys. We keep on keeping on.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 1:32 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:32 pm EDT)
I agree. Even with all of the hoopla from the
G-NO-P, they're going to bluster and hrumph for awhile, then confirm her.
They have nothing, except a perfectly legit comment she made that they tried to use to discredit her.
Once again, FAIL
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Jul 12th 2009 at 1:37 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:37 pm EDT)
The G-NO-P cannot finsh a fight. Period.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 1:45 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:45 pm EDT)
JB, I just got on after catching up on the comments from when I signed off yesterday. I don't think anyone here would have had a problem with you, i9f your first post had been this one. Instead you started off trying to ingratiate yourself to everyone. You used less than elementary verbiage and sentence structure. Then in no time at all you became an authority on everything. That's what I found insulting. You thought we were that gullible. There's never anything wrong with a hardy, but genuine debate. You chose to enter the forum less than honestly. Similar to how the previous adminisstration did things, start off with a lie and see how far you get.
O family, whether JB is Brad or not (I personally don't thnk so), it doesn't matter. They represent a dying breed that refuse togo down without a fight. They have been marginalized and there echo is getting more faint. They are one of the small percentage of folks who even identify with them. They are not the threat.
The threat is our own Dems who will not stand behind PBO's agenda. Unlike the repubs who will lock step with their leader, no matter what, our elected officials are like crabs in a barrel. Always pulling the ones on top down to the bottom.
PS: Rusty is in a whole other category.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 1:20 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:20 pm EDT)
You are so tranparent and not even funny. You are wasting your time here. This is an organizing site and Obama supporter site -- you can't change our minds.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 1:36 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:36 pm EDT)
The election is over. The people here are loyal President Obama supporters. Many for a long time. I konw I have been a supporter since 2007.
I konw I go on wing-nut sites once in awhile to talk up President Obama, but that's because most of the people on those sites are armed with mis-information. An Example: President Obama was not born in the US. They get beat up side the head all day from people like Rush with crazy information. If I can reach one of them, just one, maybe we can get them to at least take a look at us in a different way.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 2:03 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 2:03 pm EDT)
JBTurner was here during the election campaigns too but we did more ignoring instead of engaging.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 1:21 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:21 pm EDT)
The legislation to increase taxes on cigarettes was introduced under administration of your friend Bush.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 1:26 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:26 pm EDT)
Ignore. report.
Moving on.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 1:32 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:32 pm EDT)
I applaud this president for signing the bill! He did the right thing
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Jul 12th 2009 at 1:24 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:24 pm EDT)
stop smoking and you won't have to worry about your taxes going up...pretty simple
I don't smoke and my taxes haven't gone...sounds good to me.
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"CZARINA" Snicky's Mama Loves this President and First Family
Jul 12th 2009 at 1:35 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:35 pm EDT)
Yeah I don't smoke or drink
Things are great in my house
It is all a matter of choice
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Jul 12th 2009 at 1:36 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:36 pm EDT)
jb, why don't you just get lost and get out of this blog, because you got a little mind and don't know how to used it. I am not being mean, i am just speaking from my point of view. and do us a favor, go back to mcshame's website. by the way, on your profile, how come you don't have much to said on yourself and obama.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 1:46 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:46 pm EDT)
Kim Mr JB Rusty Nail Cohran says he is just here to express his views. We all know if he really was concerned with making his opinion known he would send comments to www.whitehouse.gov so president would see them . He comes here because he gets paid to do so.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 1:16 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:16 pm EDT)
not sure if this has been posted already...
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The former US vice-president Dick Cheney ordered the CIA to conceal a highly secret counter-terrorist programme from Congress for eight years, possibly in breach of longstanding oversight laws.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 1:20 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:20 pm EDT)
I am NOT touching that one!
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Jul 12th 2009 at 1:24 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:24 pm EDT)
Forge the MSM, we're on the move. The revolution will not be televised!
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Jul 12th 2009 at 1:26 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:26 pm EDT)
take a look at Bill Moyers interview with Wendell Potter, Cigna whistle blower and there is clip in there showing thousands of people at a rally in DC and we did not get a peep out of the MSM!!!
it will not be televised, but in order to make a strong statement it must be
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Jul 12th 2009 at 1:29 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:29 pm EDT)
Yeah but you are really wasting your time if you are gonna wait for them to bring on health reform.
We did this during the campaign, our movement is underground and that is where it will happen.
Monday we're having another meeting for strategies. It is working, and we will overcome this little obstacle.
(media doesn't matter any more, trust me on this one)
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Jul 12th 2009 at 1:30 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:30 pm EDT)
Love it!
I think Congress is really underestimating how PO'd people are regarding health care. Folks talk about the President being in danger or living in a bubble. These Congress folks live under freaking rocks!
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Jul 12th 2009 at 1:41 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:41 pm EDT)
Kent Conrad still pushin' for his friggin' co-op
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Jul 12th 2009 at 1:48 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:48 pm EDT)
Won't work. But i think the name "Public plan" will change to something else. You will see.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 1:56 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:56 pm EDT)
the money is pushing for a co-op
look in his pockets
these people are spending over a $1million dollars a day to defeat this
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Jul 12th 2009 at 2:12 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 2:12 pm EDT)
Call him up and call him out.
Moveon.org is on the case as well correct?
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Jul 12th 2009 at 1:26 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:26 pm EDT)
Hey hey, NYC!
President Obama, Attorney General Holder and more!
The NAACP 100th Anniversary Convention, this week
Attorney General Eric Holder on Wednesday
President Barack Obama on Thursday, July 16.
(and a link for viewing for the rest of us
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and here's the general link about the convention
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but watch out about updates in the schedule)
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Jul 12th 2009 at 1:35 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:35 pm EDT)
I know the NAACP is so excited to have the POTUS and AG.
Back in 1909 when it was created, do you think the founders imagined this day?
Ha!
Love it!
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Jul 12th 2009 at 2:29 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 2:29 pm EDT)
:) :) :)
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Jul 12th 2009 at 1:28 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:28 pm EDT)
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It was beginning to look like the worst was over for U.S. Sen. John Ensign. But a rash of new revelations last week complicated the political picture for the Nevada Republican, who last month disclosed an extramarital affair with a former staffer.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 1:42 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:42 pm EDT)
Somebody take out the trash; we're attracting flies.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 1:57 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:57 pm EDT)
I wish we had a way of putting a burn sign on them!
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Jul 12th 2009 at 2:08 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 2:08 pm EDT)
Forget RID
Bring on the RAID.
Maybe a Fogger too.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 7:03 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 7:03 pm EDT)
I disagree. John Edwards isn't the party that preaches "American Family Values" and "Social conservative values" and "one man, one woman" values and other "core" values.
I don't really care if someone cheats on his spouse, it is none of my business after all.
It is the hypocracy that pisses me off...
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Jul 12th 2009 at 1:41 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:41 pm EDT)
R/I/D
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Jul 12th 2009 at 1:45 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:45 pm EDT)
Hey Andrea;
I believe that Ensign was also in the religious cult that reside on "C-Street" to keep their dealings secret. A lot of dirt and crap coming out form the so call "family values" party of the Pharisees.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 1:45 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:45 pm EDT)
Hey Andrea;
I believe that Ensign was also in the religious cult that reside on "C-Street" to keep their dealings secret. A lot of dirt and crap coming out form the so call "family values" party of the Pharisees.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 2:10 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 2:10 pm EDT)
Chickens always come home to roost.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 2:13 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 2:13 pm EDT)
That's right; and I can hear it now.
Explaining economic actions to scared people |
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Jul 12th 2009 at 1:41 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:41 pm EDT)
I've seen the desperation of many small business owners, ranchers and dairy owners. So they don't go brown shirt on us, can the Obama Admin explain in very visual, clear ways how current recovery actions will lead to more jobs, better credit, and whatever else is in freefall? (e.g., We are doing this... to cause these results... within this time frame...)
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Jul 12th 2009 at 1:45 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:45 pm EDT)
R/I/D
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Jul 12th 2009 at 1:48 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:48 pm EDT)
If you are really interested Pay Attention
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Jul 12th 2009 at 1:49 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:49 pm EDT)
Nettie, RID. It works, can;t you see the name keeps changing??
It is because of R/I/D
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Jul 12th 2009 at 1:59 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:59 pm EDT)
yep! you're right a minute ago Turner was on our side all of sudden true colors are showing!
rethugs never change or loose their spots!
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Jul 12th 2009 at 2:16 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 2:16 pm EDT)
That's how JB started out, but remember, they're the flies that buzz around to annoy us.
However we choose to engage them or not engage them still won't change them or us. I'm of a mind that we refute the lies and distortions at least once. There are many who jsut lurk or are visiting to get a feel for the PBO agenda.
We shouldn't let the voices from the dark side just spew their stuff into the universe unchallenged.
Either way, we're like PBO, with the hand-eye coordination Serena Williams, all it takes is one mighty swipe and we can swat them away at will.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 1:56 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:56 pm EDT)
The best thing to do is to go to the whitehouse.gov site. There is a vast array of information there that can answer your questions. If you can not find the answers, send an email to the site there.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 2:01 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 2:01 pm EDT)
what resources have you checked on your own to get answers to your questions? Have you taken the iniative to find out if what you claim to be witnessing is a result of current events, or those caused by a less than apt domestic policy of the previous administration?
What have you done at your local level to help yourself and others work toward this agenda that we need desparately to succeed.
Read the statement from PBO at the very top of the page. It says something to the effect that you have to believe in your own ability to affect change.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 2:02 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 2:02 pm EDT)
Tita,
Go to
Whitehouse.gov
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Recovery.gov
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You have to enpower yourself. We are not children anymore. We've been talked down to and lied to for so long that many of us don't know what the truth looks like.
This will be useful for many minorities |
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Jul 12th 2009 at 1:44 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 1:44 pm EDT)
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(it will be used by all people, and empower the people)
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Jul 12th 2009 at 2:04 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 2:04 pm EDT)
Isack,
Brad,Rusty,Russel....REMEMBER THAT MOVIE SYBIL???
MULTIPLE PERSONALTIES ON THE BLOG,same person.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 2:10 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 2:10 pm EDT)
Cillia; this is the job for mental health services to help Brad Rusty and Russel. I think they must have had a lot of tiny wine.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 2:46 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 2:46 pm EDT)
Soooooo TRUE!!
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Jul 12th 2009 at 2:11 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 2:11 pm EDT)
Ha!!!Cilla I was just thinking of that.
BTW how are you? Have you settled in yet.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 2:48 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 2:48 pm EDT)
Hi Sandra,
I am adjustng to the time difference,LOL!!
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Jul 12th 2009 at 2:12 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 2:12 pm EDT)
Speculation and getting ahead of yourself. Doesn't mean it will happen. Also, you don't have the exact numbers, so it's even more speculative.
"McChrystal has not yet completed a 60-day assessment of the war due next month. But Defense Department officials here and in Kabul, the Afghan capital, said he has informed Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates, in weekly updates, of the need to increase the Afghan force substantially, as was first reported yesterday on washingtonpost.com. Officials spoke on condition of anonymity in order to discuss findings that have not yet been made public."
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Jul 12th 2009 at 2:37 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 2:37 pm EDT)
Links are better.
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Stan Z- Christian-President Obama Knows His Stuff
Jul 12th 2009 at 2:14 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 2:14 pm EDT)
Where is JB Turner? It's about as good as a disguise as Superman with glasses.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 2:28 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 2:28 pm EDT)
I said up thread JB I mean Brad was leaving to make room for Rusty Nuts
Sybil had 16 personalities will Brad surpass?
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Jul 12th 2009 at 2:36 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 2:36 pm EDT)
Stay tuned... I'm sure many more will emerge! LOL!
Rusty Nuts...hot damn.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 3:01 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 3:01 pm EDT)
I'm not familiar with many people here, so I can't speak for them.
You are obviously not banned, so I'm not sure what your complaint is. Negative posts appear as freely as positive posts.
My problem is that your side is in survival mode. Your acting like President Obama is going to increase the top marginal tax rat to 60% instead of 39, and the capital gains tax is going to increase to 40% instead of 20%. You're not here for a civil discussion. You act like if health care passes Republicans will be out of power for decades. It's possible, but I wouldn't bet my life on it.
Lastly, I'm 100% confident that people are being paid by others to politically damage the President. As the long as a person is being paid to do damage, there is little chance for civil debate.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 2:00 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 2:00 pm EDT)
Hey guys - I don't know why I'm posting this when it's all over, but if you can find today's show on CNN, Fareed interviewed Geithner and an opposition person of Putin in Russia.
Geithner was good. We're still not out of the woods and their still at it. He appears so much more sure and comfortable with his role. I'm glad for him and glad for us since we needed him to get it together.
The Russian opposition guy was also good. He explained just how corrupt and closed-off Russia is under Putin. He mentioned that for the days POTUS and family (he called Obama's daughers brilliant!) Putin ceased anti-American talk on tv, etc. Shady folks in Putin's Russia.
Anyway, good show. Check it out if you can. I'm off to go stimulate the economy with my friends and catch dinner with my honey who's in town FINALLY!!!!!
Oh, and my only bone to pick with Fareed is he said that many people on Capitol Hill are calling for 2nd stimulus. Who on Capitol Hill is doing that? Also, poor Geithner got no love in the poll from viewers about the job he's doing. I don't know what more could be expected from him, and Fareed didn't give us an alternative either.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 2:05 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 2:05 pm EDT)
I like Tim G. for real, sometimes though he is not his best cheerleader. I think he needs to find a way to "make it plain" to average knucklehead out there.
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Jul 13th 2009 at 4:42 am EDT (Updated Jul 13th 2009 at 4:42 am EDT)
He did make it plain when he gave this answer
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still think he's looking out for you?
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Jul 12th 2009 at 2:13 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 2:13 pm EDT)
For those who have missed it, the show airs again at 5 PM Eastern time.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 2:52 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 2:52 pm EDT)
I think Fareed is the best hour on t.v. I was disappointed to hear him say that so many of his viewers don't think Geitner is doing a good job, but I guess that until the economy turns around people will continue to say that. I got a huge kick out of the Russian guy, especially when he was talking about corruption and also his cute words about the Obama family. I also liked when he said that the difference between Bush and Obama is that Bush acted like a "teacher" who was there to lecture them whereas Obama was there to listen and learn. Fareed's comments on Honduras were also interesting. I did not know the reasons behind the coup in Honduras, perhaps because that part of the ousting of Zelaya has not been covered much here. Or perhaps it's because I have pretty much stopped watching the cable news shows because I agree with Obama when he said that everyone has a role to play. Fareed's show is the only one where you feel like you're actually learning something.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 2:22 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 2:22 pm EDT)
People have been saying, "If there is global warming, why is it so cool this summer?" My theory is the following. It has to do with the great amount of energy zapped from the surrounding when water condenses.
Similar to the theories behind your air conditioner, this applies to the weather as well.
When air is condensed, it zaps a lot of warm air in its surroundings; then it makes the air cooler. Hence, cool air is felt pumping through your air ducts. When warm air rises, the water vapors condenses, thus makes the summer air cooler. We have had many more severe thunderstorms lately. There is a lot of water condensing within a turbulent mixture of rising and falling air.
That is why in global warming, there are cooler summers as predicted, initially.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 2:32 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 2:32 pm EDT)
"there have been some relatively cooler years during that period -- including a decline in each of the past three years relative to the year before. But climate scientists have identified a long-term warming trend spanning several decades that is independent from the normal climate variability -- which includes relatively short-term changes in climate due to events like El Niño and La Niña -- to which they attribute the recent relatively cooler temperatures."
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Jul 12th 2009 at 2:35 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 2:35 pm EDT)
and evidently an El Nino year is developing this year..
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Jul 12th 2009 at 2:28 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 2:28 pm EDT)
Just a short blurb regarding the AC360 interview that will be shown tomorrow
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I agree with the President. Can't keep it under the rug.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 2:30 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 2:30 pm EDT)
I agree with him, slavery is something that will never go away. It should be in taught in history classes in America.
Tomorrow is the big day!! |
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Jul 12th 2009 at 2:28 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 2:28 pm EDT)
I believe that tomorrow at Sotomayor's hearing the GOP will continue to expose themselves. I know Sonia will kick their butts tomorrow. Go Sonia!!
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Jul 12th 2009 at 2:35 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 2:35 pm EDT)
"Expose themselves"?
The G-NO-P has done A LOT of that lately.
Gov. Sandford
Sen. Ensign
I'm sure there are some more G-NO-P undercover freaks out there.
Sorry Bella I couldn't help myself!
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Jul 12th 2009 at 2:46 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 2:46 pm EDT)
Bzzzzzz
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Jul 12th 2009 at 2:48 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 2:48 pm EDT)
Andrea-
I forgot about all of that, don't forget about Princess Palin's quitting her job.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 2:55 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 2:55 pm EDT)
I believe that they will attack Judge Sonia like a pack of wild dogs, just for the sake of attacking her. Does anynone know what time her hearing starts tomorrow?
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Jul 12th 2009 at 3:04 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 3:04 pm EDT)
It starts at 10AM.
I'm sure MSNBC, FOX, CNN and the rest of that ilk will be salivating waiting for folks to grandstand and act ignorant.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 2:46 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 2:46 pm EDT)
And we have her back! We really need her.
Here's the OFA link to the "Stand with Sotomayor" Action Center -- nice video to email to pople, suggestions about other actions to take, too.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 3:10 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 3:10 pm EDT)
OOOPS, the link went missing!
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(to the OFA Stand with Sotomayor ACtion Center)
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Jul 12th 2009 at 2:43 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 2:43 pm EDT)
a fighter for PO :
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In a conference call Thursday, July 9, 2009, Dean said a health care reform bill making its way through Congress must end up including a 'public option,' for people who want health insurance provided by the government.
(AP Photo/Toby Talbot, File)
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Jul 12th 2009 at 3:06 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 3:06 pm EDT)
And one for Health Care Reform this year (links are to whitehouse.gov)
Video
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transcript:
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(These are to the town hall July 1st; there are many other video and print resources by and about fighters for Health Care Reform at whitehouse.gov)
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Jul 12th 2009 at 2:43 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 2:43 pm EDT)
ChuckGrassleyChr Rangel wealthy 1pc make 27pc of total income pay 40pc of income tax U hv 5pc health care surTax How hi taxes go to satisfy u?Let's talk.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 2:52 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 2:52 pm EDT)
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Jul 12th 2009 at 2:53 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 2:53 pm EDT)
That was just stupid JB Cohron Rusty Nuts
but then I expected nothing less
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Jul 12th 2009 at 2:45 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 2:45 pm EDT)
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I guess Sen. McCain felt left out. Maybe he thought the fundamentals of her governorship were strong.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 2:51 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 2:51 pm EDT)
LMOL!!!!!
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Jul 12th 2009 at 2:57 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 2:57 pm EDT)
I am still waiting for the media to find out why she really resigned.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 3:01 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 3:01 pm EDT)
I'd say give it 10 days or so. I mean the media just returned from Michael Jackson land so they have to adjust from the jet lag.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 3:00 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 3:00 pm EDT)
Plus...
Now
Sen. McCain thinks personal family attacks have gotten out of hand? Okay... I guess he was under that proverbial rock when they were wailing on Chelsea Clinton. Or how can we forget the latest foray into G-NO-P recruitment, the slander of little Malia Obama.
Sen. McCain is living in the Twilight Zone.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 3:10 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 3:10 pm EDT)
He's the one who made an attack on Chelsia. He said something about her and Janet Reno. Not to mention his piggish references to his own wife.
I just can't figure out for the life of me why he's still out front and center. Why won't he just go away? He feels so personally affronted that he can't get to the acceptance phase in mourning his lost.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 3:18 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 3:18 pm EDT)
He won't go away because he can't. He has nothing else to do. Remember how he was walking in the background during the townhall debate last year. He looked like some weirdo old man.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 3:59 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 3:59 pm EDT)
Really?? Is that why she always looks like a scaredy cat waiting for permission to speak?
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Jul 12th 2009 at 4:09 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 4:09 pm EDT)
..and I've met Santa Claus and I can assure you tht after he checked his list twice, John Boy came up sadly, a bad boy indeed.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 2:58 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 2:58 pm EDT)
AW-
JBTURNER is lonely that so TWEET!
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Jul 12th 2009 at 3:07 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 3:07 pm EDT)
No it's not boring. I think your the sweet one who is lonely. Admit it.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 3:15 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 3:15 pm EDT)
uh,... oookie doookie then?????
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Jul 12th 2009 at 2:58 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 2:58 pm EDT)
Bet the three of you aren't on the list
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Jul 12th 2009 at 3:11 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 3:11 pm EDT)
JBTurner;
the wealthy find loop holes to not pay real taxes period (I.E tax shelters-havens)in the Cayman Islands. So they are not paying there true taxes but the poor and the middle class is.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 3:13 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 3:13 pm EDT)
and may I add the companies are under fictitious names.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 3:23 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 3:23 pm EDT)
The problem is not only taxes but also expenses and jobs. Corporations can raise their expenses and hold down wages and that seems to be fine with you.
I hate to keep posting all the heinous things our corporations do around the world, but I will.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 3:17 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 3:17 pm EDT)
JBT: it's helpful to say up front that your link is to (as it says in the footer): "The Heritage Foundation, conservative policy research since 1973."
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Jul 12th 2009 at 3:22 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 3:22 pm EDT)
Yup yup
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Jul 12th 2009 at 3:50 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 3:50 pm EDT)
JBT:
No.
Your figures are from the Tax Foundation. They say the table you link to is a summary from Federal Individual Income Tax Data, 2005 (updated October 2007) -- a summary by the Tax Foundation, picking what they choose from a wealth (pun) of data.
AND what is the Tax Foundation? Not really neutral.
Here's a little bit they wrote about themselves: "The year was 1937, the heart of the Great Depression. During the previous decade, first under Herbert Hoover, then under Franklin Roosevelt, federal spending had climbed 170 percent; over the previous five years internal revenue collections had risen 198 percent.
Concerned about the effect such expansion might have on private sector growth, ..."
Not really that neutral, ehh? Their concern is with "private sector growth." And they started worrying when people (who had not and would not participate in "private sector growth") were beginning to get some respite from suicide, starvation, joblessness, homelessness, etc.
In case you are interested, my concern is with health care reform, climate and energy issues, and education improvement. Oh, yes, those are President Obama's concern, too...
Nothing wrong with "private sector growth" but not at the expense of solving the main three problems we need to solve for "full country development."
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Jul 12th 2009 at 3:25 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 3:25 pm EDT)
I saw that to. I will only believe him if he have it from an independent source that is not paid to lie. That is why his information is skewed.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 3:32 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 3:32 pm EDT)
JB this info that you are giving us is from a republican Think tank. Try again.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 3:36 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 3:36 pm EDT)
Here are other sources.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 4:13 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 4:13 pm EDT)
May 2009
Florida Unemployment rate 10 percent
Texas Unemployment rate 6.9
Iowa Unemployment rate 5.4 percent
Florida Health uninsured rate 25 percent
Texas Health uninsured rate 26.3
Iowa Health uninsured rate 12 percent.
Florida and Texas top income tax rate 0 percent.
Iowa top income tax rate 8.98 percent.
If cutting taxes = better economics.
Why are Iowa's unemployment rate and health insurance rate better than Florida and Texas.
In conclusion, states need to compare what works and what does not. Then develop programs that works across state lines.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 3:04 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 3:04 pm EDT)
Tears on your pillow. You know you can't resist us.
That is why you are all up on this blog.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 6:29 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 6:29 pm EDT)
Actually he said she's "likeable enough". Get your quotes right
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Jul 12th 2009 at 7:23 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 7:23 pm EDT)
JB.If you're going to quote someone you should get it right. He said Hilary was "likeable enough."
P.S. I tried to post before, but it hasn't come up for ages, so if this appears twice, sorry!
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Jul 12th 2009 at 3:12 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 3:12 pm EDT)
Even replies to himself way. Hmmm, strange that.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 3:22 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 3:22 pm EDT)
Noticed that to:)
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Jul 12th 2009 at 3:03 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 3:03 pm EDT)
I see we have a weekend troll.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 3:09 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 3:09 pm EDT)
Yes he is a bored lonely soul. We are doing our best to be hospitable. He seems to be enjoying his selves:)
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Jul 12th 2009 at 3:11 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 3:11 pm EDT)
With a "SYBIL" Complex....MULITPLE PERSONALITIES.
Channeling Sarah Palin even!!!
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Jul 12th 2009 at 3:20 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 3:20 pm EDT)
Yeah a weak man who couldn't even stand up and fight for his own choice for runing mate.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 3:27 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 3:27 pm EDT)
Goes to show...
G-NO-P can't finish a fight.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 3:49 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 3:49 pm EDT)
The fact they now both work for this administration says it all
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Jul 12th 2009 at 3:31 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 3:31 pm EDT)
Oh yeah right that must be why he lost....
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Jul 12th 2009 at 3:36 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 3:36 pm EDT)
He sold out to a fringe who wouldn't have voted for him anyway. He compromised to his own base for an element that was only happy with red meat.
That was dishonorable from any angle you look at it.
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crickets....
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Sound of one hand clappin'
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Jul 12th 2009 at 3:31 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 3:31 pm EDT)
JB, it seems to me that you need something better to do. Why come here and completely take over this blog? What a waste of a day.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 3:39 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 3:39 pm EDT)
I'm still thinking.
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I'm not crazy about pop quizzes.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 3:17 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 3:17 pm EDT)
IT looks like we have a ciagate coming our way. The watergate of the CIA though with different violations.
Get ready.
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The clouds are forming...
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Jul 12th 2009 at 3:28 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 3:28 pm EDT)
Next picture I want to see of evil sadistic Chenny is him in an orange jumpsuit behind locked bars.
With any luck some of the tortured detainees will be his roomies
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Jul 12th 2009 at 3:34 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 3:34 pm EDT)
Hold on Nettie,
I think I hav an article for you down thread...
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Jul 12th 2009 at 3:57 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 3:57 pm EDT)
Yeah wealthy only because the daddy of his barbie doll bride that he left his loyal disfigured wife and their children had deep pockets
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Jul 12th 2009 at 4:50 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 4:50 pm EDT)
You repubs sure are good at making excuses for each others actions.
Repubs bring this kind of scrutiny on themselves choosing to showcase themselves as the shinning example of faith, family and patriotism when they are anything but....
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Jul 12th 2009 at 6:21 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 6:21 pm EDT)
Hi JB ( and all) Unfortunately I don't know how to send links yet, but I just Googled "mccain first wife divorced". Try it, and read the first article listed. I remember reading it during the election.It will answer your questions.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 3:29 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 3:29 pm EDT)
Scare Tactic: A Gov't Bureaucrat is going to ration your healthcare.
Reality: A Free-Market (Capitalistic) Coporate Bureaucrat is rationing your healthcare right now. The Private (Free-Market) Capitalist decides your healthcare; decides whether you live or die.
Viewing our health as a business in the sense that one views cars, computers, refrigerators, and so on as businesses is obviously wrong-headed.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 3:47 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 3:47 pm EDT)
The government is actually much more efficient than private industry. Take health insurance companies, their administrative costs are much greater than Medicare. They remain profitable because they deny claims and raise premiums.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 3:49 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 3:49 pm EDT)
JB
I rather have Government with non-profit to handle health care than the for profit insurance companies. For thoes who want to keep their employer based health care can keep it for those who want government could go with that. That is why a strong public option is the perfect solution to keeping administrative cost and other forms of unnecessary cost of health care down. To create competition.
That is true capitalism.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 3:49 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 3:49 pm EDT)
JB
I rather have Government with non-profit to handle health care than the for profit insurance companies. For thoes who want to keep their employer based health care can keep it for those who want government could go with that. That is why a strong public option is the perfect solution to keeping administrative cost and other forms of unnecessary cost of health care down. To create competition.
That is true capitalism.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 4:07 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 4:07 pm EDT)
Who did those studies?
Americans are significantly more satisfied with Medicare than private insurance.
"You're hearing a lot of bashing of government-run health care these days, but notice the bashers don't call out the programs out by name. There's a reason for that. SCHIP is hugely popular. The VA is arguably the best system of care in the country. Medicaid has less of a sterling reputation, but that's largely because no one really understands how it works or who is eligible for what state-by-state. And Medicare? Well, as a new Commonwealth Fund poll confirms, Americans are significantly more satisfied with Medicare than private insurance."
Link
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Jul 12th 2009 at 4:14 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 4:14 pm EDT)
Hi JB, the private insurers are operating right now with an unfair advantage: It is called a MONOPOLY. And they will not give it up easily. I hope and pray that President Obama will be successful in destroying MONOPOLY that the FEW private insurers enjoy.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 4:19 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 4:19 pm EDT)
JB
You want to know what is unfair JB.
I'll tell you what is unfair.
1) Consistently raising their premiums and other cost to pay their Administrative cost. In other words they are pocketing our lively hood.
2) Purposely throwing away the sick because they are a liability to the health insurance profits.
3) Even raising the rates when a person haven't even used the insurance yet.
IT's plain and simple greed.
And may I add that it started back in the era of the Nixon years 1971 I believe this "For Profit" crap.
so I would say competition is fair. If the "For Profit" can't compete then that is just to bad.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 4:38 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 4:38 pm EDT)
JB;
that is why Our Beloved President Obama and "WE THE PEOPLE" are changing it now. That is why we are fighting so hard to get the lobbyist out of the way.
The lobbyist and the 'For Profit" industry are spending 1million dollars a day to derail our affords. So we will continue this fight.
The difference is this time that "We The People" are helping President Obama to fight and their is more transparency.
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Jul 13th 2009 at 1:40 am EDT (Updated Jul 13th 2009 at 1:40 am EDT)
Obviously they have started with a silly premise that subsidies would only apply to a public plan. That's not what is proposed as far as I know.
My understanding is that a health exchange would allow folks to buy whatever insurance they want, private, public, or none at all. Subsidies are provided to help the poor be able to obtain insurance, of their choice, increasing, not decreasing population covered.
I'm sure there are all sorts of proposals out there, but the spin that a) government can't run anything well and b) they will cause private plans to have a net loss of participants even with subsidies applied on a level playing field argues that a cognitive dissonance exists in the minds of those opposing health care reform.
It's great to hear people arguing both sides on an issue, but not the same person making contraditory arguments.
So, if government can't run things well, then don't argue at the same time they will compete effectively against private plans. It's bullshit.
The subsidies are not just for the public plan option... that's also bullshit.
basically, though it's wrapped in fancy talk, it still stinks like bullshit to me.
I looked through the blog and saw a higher than normal percentage of pure BS today.. guess some people have nothing better to do on a sunday.
it may or may not be effective psych ops. It may cause people to simply tune out.. which is presumably the goal of the BS posts.
Even if it achieves that objective here, health care reform, with a strong public plan option will be enacted this year. Those posting these BS arguments against "all things Obama" might feel some relief from their mental masturbation, but in the final analysis it a waste of everyone's time without that satisfaction of derailing our agenda.
The agenda of Healthcare, energy, and education is going to happen regardless of all these efforts to stop it. For those opposed, it certainly must be a scary time.
I'm not interested in discussing this further, and definately not interested in helping any of the BS posters 'enjoy themselves'.
Anyway, I have a lot of work to do this coming week. Still have Lieberman to work on and hope to put some pressure to soften his opposition, but we will see. I may also put in a call to Specter and see where I get.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 3:42 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 3:42 pm EDT)
Our healthcare should be run by not-for-profit organizations. The for-profit healthcare organizations care about profit (MONEY). And normally that's not a bad thing. However, is it not OBVIOUS that when we are talking about whether people (human beings) continue to breathe in and breathe out that that is not a business that can morally fit into the free-market mode?
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Jul 12th 2009 at 3:53 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 3:53 pm EDT)
Hi JB. I don't if there should be more gov't regulation. It is a shame that Capitalism has become so corrupt. Capitalism without any shred of ethics is as dangerous if not more than Communism ever was.
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I mean i don't know. sorry
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Jul 12th 2009 at 3:47 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 3:47 pm EDT)
Republicans suck!
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Jul 12th 2009 at 4:04 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 4:04 pm EDT)
Rainy is not saying all Republican sucks
just the ones who want
1) to see President Obama to fail,
2) the ones who always say no without true alternatives
3) who showed their racist ignorance
4) who chooses corporations over people
5) and so forth.
So I would say to you JB that; yes Most of the Republican sucks. Not all just like I'm not to crazy about Blue-dog dems.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 4:04 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 4:04 pm EDT)
Corporate America needs to read our history. Have they not read about how businesses behaved in the 1890's? They should read Upton Sinclair's , "The Jungle". It is a portrait of Capitalism Devoid of Ethics. That's what is going on here with our healtcare system. Its also what engenders calls for government regulation. Is is so hard to do right?!!
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Jul 12th 2009 at 3:32 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 3:32 pm EDT)
Link
Will her book be titled: Winners Never Quit?
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Jul 12th 2009 at 3:43 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 3:43 pm EDT)
She is such a drama queen. I believe Levi, she quit because she wants fame, and money. She needs to be lambasted for quitting.
If this was any other politician, who #1 has NO experience at all just ups and quits a positions the media would have a field day. Too many double standards are in place when in comes to Palin.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 3:54 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 3:54 pm EDT)
Actually, she hasn't spent anything. The ethics charges have been defended by house counsel, and they are paid a salary which is constant regardless of how many times they defend her.
She hasn't spent a dime.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 4:04 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 4:04 pm EDT)
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Jul 12th 2009 at 4:10 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 4:10 pm EDT)
Quitter Palin, has quit everything that she has started! Her objective is to become President in 2012 and make money in the process. Thanks, but no thanks. I would never vote for any Republican again, ever!!
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Jul 12th 2009 at 4:12 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 4:12 pm EDT)
Well done, Sharon! That should shut her/him up!
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Jul 12th 2009 at 6:58 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 6:58 pm EDT)
There's a legal defense fund that has been established to take care of any legal fee's not covered by her staff. I promise you, she won't be paying any legal fee's out of her own pocket.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 4:22 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 4:22 pm EDT)
Palin is a liar, she has not been cleared in anything. Palin the LIAR.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 4:07 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 4:07 pm EDT)
Republicans suck big time!
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Jul 12th 2009 at 4:25 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 4:25 pm EDT)
jb, let me ask you question? Do you quit anytime when things gets hard too? palin can't even finish the terms that she is elect to do, so what makes you think that she well finish the president terms. If she ever be elect as president of united states.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 4:37 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 4:37 pm EDT)
by the way, who did you vote for obama or mcsame
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Jul 13th 2009 at 2:52 am EDT (Updated Jul 13th 2009 at 2:52 am EDT)
JBTurner- Now we know you are a disgruntled McCain supporter here to annoy us. Too bad you cannot find a more productive way to help your own party!
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Nettie you might see that orange jumpsuit afterall
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Jul 12th 2009 at 3:51 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 3:51 pm EDT)
Public Option :
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Here is what a public health insurance option would mean:
A choice for all of us. If the public health insurance option passes, Americans will be able to choose between keeping their current insurance and choosing a high-quality, public plan. If you like your current care, you can keep it. If you don't--or don't have any--you can get the public insurance plan.
It will be high-quality coverage with a choice of doctors. A public plan would improve quality, because it won't just focus on short-term profits like private plans do. And if you choose the public plan, you'll still get to choose your doctor and hospital.
We'll all save a bunch of money. The public health insurance option won't have to spend money on things like CEO bonuses, shareholder dividends, or excessive advertising, so it'll cost a lot less. Plus, the private plans will have to lower their rates and provide better value to compete, so people who keep their current insurance will save, too.
It will always be there for you and your family. A for-profit insurer can close, move out of the area, or just kick you off its insurance rolls. The public health insurance option will always be available to provide you with the health security you need.
And it's a key part of covering everyone. No longer will sick people or folks in rural communities, or low-income Americans be forced to go without coverage. The public health insurance plan will be available and accessible to everyone.
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Specifically, a public option must be:
A national plan with real bargaining clout: In order to truly control costs and compete with private health insurance plans, a strong public health insurance option must be available nationwide.
Ready on day one: Every day we wait on real reform, health care costs continue to rise. A strong public health insurance option right out of the gate is key to building a competitive program that will help control costs.
A truly public plan: To ensure it's held to the highest standards of accountability, a public health insurance option must be truly publicly run--accountable and transparent to Congress and to voters.
Part of a plan to cover all of us: A strong public health insurance option should be a key piece of a reform plan that will guarantee access to quality health care for everyone in America.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 4:18 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 4:18 pm EDT)
The quote is actually from rich's link:
It's footer says: "MoveOn.org Political Action sponsors PublicOptionIsTo.org but does not endorse, approve of, or take responsibility for anything posted on PublicOptionIsTo.org."
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'Content on blogs in My.BarackObama represents the opinions of community members and in no way should be interpreted as endorsed or approved by the campaign.'
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Jul 12th 2009 at 4:19 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 4:19 pm EDT)
That hasn't been my experience with corporate America. None of my doctors have been paid based on performance.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 4:35 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 4:35 pm EDT)
The President about Health Care Reform:
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"… called the Health Insurance Exchange. … a marketplace … one-stop-shop for health care plans and compare benefits and prices in simple, easy-to- understand language, and then choose the best plan for you. None of these plans would be able to deny coverage on the basis of a preexisting condition. All of them would include an affordable, basic benefit package. If you couldn't afford these plans, then we could provide you a little bit of help so that you can afford these plans.
"I also strongly believe that one of the options in the exchange should be a public option, in order for us to create some competition for the private insurers to keep them honest. … But there should be a benchmark there of a public plan, non-for-profit plan, that keeps administrative costs low and is focused on providing good service…
[Material omitted here addresses matters of payment: deficit-neutral over the next 10 years.]
"… we can regulate the insurance companies effectively; make sure that they're not playing games with people because of preexisting conditions; that they're not charging wildly different rates to people based on where they live or what their age is; that they're not dropping people for coverage unnecessarily; that we have a public option that's available to provide competition and choice to the American people, and to keep the insurers honest; and that we can provide a system in which we are, over the long term, driving down administrative costs, and making sure that people are getting the best possible care at a lower price.
"… We don't want to get between you and your doctor. What we do believe is that if there's good evidence out there that shows that the best way to treat your illness is to give you the blue pill, and instead right now you're getting prescribed the red pill that costs twice as much, I think that you and your doctor, having that information, are probably going to decide to go with the cheaper pill that does just as good of a job, and that will save you money. That's not rationing. That's being sensible.
So whenever you start hearing these arguments … I need everybody … to actually pay attention to the argument, and don't let people scare you out of reforming a system that we know is not working.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 4:46 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 4:46 pm EDT)
I posted the link and the quotes above because I am concerned that that material from the link rich posted (from PublicOptionIsTo.org/MoveOn.or g Political Action) could lead people to believe that some things are features of "Public Option" but the President's discussion makes clear these features apply to private insurers, too.
It seems pretty important to notice that full Health Care Reform can include regulation of private insurers.
We can't let Health Care Reform be identified all and only with public option.
We need regulation for private plans.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 6:03 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 6:03 pm EDT)
YES WE CAN let Health Care Reform be identified all and only with public option.
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The "Co-op" Plan is a distraction from real reform, and would create small, regional insurers too weak to compete to lower costs and too limited to meet the goal of affordable coverage for all Americans. In addition, these "co-op" plans would mostly be privately run, so they wouldn't be accountable to voters or Congress.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 4:19 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 4:19 pm EDT)
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Here are three great articles laying out background on the co-op plan.
"The Health Care Showdown," by Paul Krugman, Nobel prize-winning economist and New York Times columnist:
"For the record, neither regional health cooperatives nor state-level public plans, both of which have been proposed as alternatives [to the public option], would have the financial stability and bargaining power needed to bring down health care costs."
"Un-Cooperative: The Trouble with Conrad's Compromise," by Jacob Hacker, author of Health Care for America and U.C. Berkeley political scientist:
"[The co-op plan is]...not going to have the ability to be a cost-control backstop, much less a benchmark for private plans, because they are not going to have the reach or authority to implement innovative delivery and payment reforms."
"Why We Need a Public Health-Care Plan," by Robert B. Reich, former secretary of labor and professor at the University of California:
"...cooperatives would lack the scale and authority to negotiate lower rates with drug companies and other providers, collect wide data on outcomes, or effect major change in the system."
A "co-op" is not an acceptable substitute for a strong public health insurance option.
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Bella Hussein Reese
Jul 12th 2009 at 4:25 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 4:25 pm EDT)
I think having a co-op plan would be similar to the current healthcare system. A co-op helhcare is not a good option in regards to healthcare imo.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 4:33 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 4:33 pm EDT)
Bella -
Thanks for the echo.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 4:37 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 4:37 pm EDT)
This is the reason why its always been wrong to make our HEALTH, whether you continue to inhale and exhale a BUSINESS like the selling of merchandise. The private insurers should be allowed to wither on the vine, as they surely will because they are not accustomed to COMPETITION. The private insurers only thrive in a MONOPOLY ENVIRONMENT.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 4:36 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 4:36 pm EDT)
Hey there Rusty NUTS...
And the circus acts continue
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Jul 12th 2009 at 4:29 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 4:29 pm EDT)
oh dear, a hot time on the ole blog today folks..
You know what that means, don't you?
-PBO is back in town.
-Sotomayor will seated as a jurist on the SCOTUS.
-Healthcare with a strong public option is just around the corner.
-all of the above
Queue the right wing head explosion tirades in 5..4...3...2..
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Jul 12th 2009 at 4:36 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 4:36 pm EDT)
cooke-
It has been a crazy week. There are about 5 trolls today, something is happening right. Repugs targeting Malia with hate speech. Judge Sonia's nomination is coming up. The Prez had a good week in Europe and Africa. This has been an interesting summer thus far.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 4:21 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 4:21 pm EDT)
Hey O-family,
Like your opinion on something. I've been thinking about who to write a letter of complaint to about the website that's allowing hatred and racism to be spewed at our President's young child. While I do not want this innocent child to be hurt by the airing of this vileness, I feel there should be consequences.
Is there no regulatory agency that can be written to about this? Who would it be?
I've also been wondering why we citizens of this country allow someone like Rupert Murdoch who is not a citizen to come over here and turn our media into entities designed to bash our President, in essence, our government and our way of life.
Why do we allow this? How do we stop it? There is freedom of speech but there should also be consequences for speech and writings that are not acceptable.
And we citizens of this country, taxpayers who allow this country to run and the likes of a Murdoch to come over here and make money should have a say.
Just would like your thoughts as I am deeply saddened by this hatred and feel it should not be allowed to continue without consequences by truly loving and Christian Americans in this country.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 4:36 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 4:36 pm EDT)
Sadly Andrea, there are those who just don't care about the effect their positions or words have on others. You can complain, but there's that document called the constitution that protcts speech. Neither you nor I would want to see it go away.
That's the same document that allows for lobbyist, you know the right to petition the government.
We are a nation of laws and we should continue to be so. It's just unfortunate, that like with anything else, morals and ehtics are left to the individual and cannot, nor should be legislated.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 4:49 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 4:49 pm EDT)
But there is also such a thing as slander and libel and these folks who commit it should be held accountable.
When someone like Hannity doctors clips to twist their meaning, they should be held accountable.
Look at what happened with that photo of our President? Had there not been video the haters would have been allowed to smear him.
I have a degree in journalism. I believe in our constitution and free speech. But I was also taught that to slander or libel someone was against the law.
These people need to be held accountable.
The Dixie Chicks voices their opinion about Bush and their careers were all but ruined. And they didn't say anything nearly as hateful as these people.
When President Obama spoke in Africa about the evils of slavery, he said that those who (I'm paraphrasing) were aware of evil had an obligation to stop it.
I do not want to just sit back and allow these evil people to slander an innocent child.
I refuse to let them hide behind the first amendment.
So I ask again, who I can contact to make my feelings known.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 5:08 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 5:08 pm EDT)
First of all, I agree with ou and share your feelings. You can contact whomever you'd like. You can voice your opinion in every forum that you can think of. Impart your good wisdom and deeds to those who are lacking in the moral fiber or compassion that you seek. It's just that nothing being said rises to the level of prosecution.
All I'm saying is that sadly, this type of speech can't and won't be legislated. Slander and libel are more than just a negative opinion that someone posted about someone else. It's even harder if the negative opinion is of a public figure.
Opinions are like A@@ holes, and like A@@ holes, everbody has one; the most you can hope for is that they keep em clean.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 5:24 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 5:24 pm EDT)
The definition of slander: words that can damage the reputation of another; gives a person a negative image.
Also from Wiki:
In law, defamation (also called calumny, libel (for written words), slander (for spoken words), and vilification) is the communication of a statement that makes a claim, expressly stated or implied to be factual, that may give an individual, business, product, group, government or nation a negative image. It is usually, but not always,[1] a requirement that this claim be false and that the publication is communicated to someone other than the person defamed (the claimant).
In common law jurisdictions, slander refers to a malicious, false and defamatory spoken statement or report, while libel refers to any other form of communication such as written words or images. Most jurisdictions allow legal actions, civil and/or criminal, to deter various kinds of defamation and retaliate against groundless criticism. Related to defamation is public disclosure of private facts, which arises where one person reveals information that is not of public concern, and the release of which would offend a reasonable person. "Unlike [with] libel, truth is not a defence for invasion of privacy."[2]
False light laws are "intended primarily to protect the plaintiff's mental or emotional well-being."[3] If a publication of information is false, then a tort of defamation might have occurred. If that communication is not technically false but is still misleading, then a tort of false light might have occurred.[3]
So there are laws against this kind of hate speech and malicious twisting of information against the President and his family.
The doctored photos, etc. all could be viewed as libelous.
However, knowing our President, I know he would not want to expose his innocent child to horrible stuff. But this is why movie stars, who are public figures, win lawsuits against the tabloids every day.
But if there are advertisers we could boycott I think this would send the message. If there's one color these haters do respect, it's the color of money -- green.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 5:49 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 5:49 pm EDT)
Andrea, I agree with everything you say. Don'tyou think that if these things were subject to prosecution, it would have been done long ago? The best we can do is as you suggest, boycott and protest. Green is what they know best.
My heart is heavy at the thought of what they're imposing on the children. Even those supposedly on our side seem to be joining in the fray.
However, this is where PBO and FLO knew the sacrifices they and their entire family would endure. Yet, they still chose to do what they felt was right for all of us.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 5:01 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 5:01 pm EDT)
I don't know either and I feel bad too.
But I had this weird idea and so I chased down some contacts.
Here's the weird idea:
I remembered the technology Q & A think and went to find the name of the main question answer. It's Vivek Kundra (Federal Chief Information Officer).
Here's the main technology page that I guess he's in charge of. Maybe they can help figure out what is being/might be/could be done?
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Jul 12th 2009 at 4:31 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 4:31 pm EDT)
JB'
I am an Independent who a long time ago voted for Ronald Reagan in his second term, voted for Herbert walker Bush. Didn't voted for Clinton and I didn't vote for W. When I witness Senator Obama in action; he was like no other Politician. He is the real deal. He may not be perfect but he is fighting for us and we are fighting for him. And so far; he kept his promis. I like that. And we all know it will take time for the economy to turn around.
As for me it's Obama/Biden 2008-2016 baby!
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Jul 12th 2009 at 4:35 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 4:35 pm EDT)
professor check you omail.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 4:39 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 4:39 pm EDT)
OI am doing it know.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 4:47 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 4:47 pm EDT)
Hey KIM;
I send you an O-Mail. Check it out.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 4:46 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 4:46 pm EDT)
JB;
I appreciate good conversation and you are welcome to have a civil conversation.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 4:49 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 4:49 pm EDT)
thank you professor.
got it and reply.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 4:58 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 4:58 pm EDT)
Thank you kim
for the invite. I got you on my list
:-)
I thank God for my O-Family on this blog all of you are so cool.
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MAN MY BROWSER IS SO SLOW IT DRIVES ME NUTS!
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Jul 13th 2009 at 3:29 am EDT (Updated Jul 13th 2009 at 3:29 am EDT)
Professor, you expressed my feelings exactly. I too have not voted straight party ever. I see BO as a people's president that is looking to improve the future for us not just the short term for re-election. Having read his books and looked up his IL voting record with his authoring and co-sponsoring bills convinced me of his sincerity and past successes.
I do not expect he will be able to do everything he wants to do since it is not a political reality. I also do not expect that the predictions of percentages and figures will match with reality, when do they ever? What I do expect is for him to try to do what he talked about to help us. I also expect him to use his judgment to readjust his decision making when required after seeing privileged facts as a president. I have seen him do more and work harder for us than any other recent President. I am proud to have voted for him and worked to help him get elected. I will continue to do whatever I can to help him achieve his goals for us. I definitely want him to be a two term president.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 4:44 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 4:44 pm EDT)
going so soon jb, did you ever figure out the omail yet, by the way, we do value you opinion, so have fun. After all, this is free county and everyone have the right to their own thoughs. but remeber this site is obama's website, so he can do no wrong with us and we are support him all the way.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 4:51 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 4:51 pm EDT)
Hey Kim;
I send o-mail to you. Check it out if you haven't already.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 5:01 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 5:01 pm EDT)
i got it professor and reply back.
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Kim
I got you on my list My browser is so slow to respond it is driving me nuts.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 5:06 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 5:06 pm EDT)
testing testing 123
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Jul 12th 2009 at 5:11 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 5:11 pm EDT)
you working professor
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No it's just my browser tripping again
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Jul 12th 2009 at 4:49 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 4:49 pm EDT)
See you Just Because (JB). Try as you might, you just can't point to anything that McCain has said or done that even remotely speaks to trying to find a common ground.
He sold himself and his followers out to the same folks that disrespected him and his family.
Now to make matters worse, he can't accept the fact that he lost to 'that one'
That's too bad because he coulda been a contenda.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 4:53 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 4:53 pm EDT)
Cookemom;
you got me stuck.
:-))
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Jul 12th 2009 at 5:53 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 5:53 pm EDT)
that's my point, "all things considered" PBO still had the graciousness to reach out to McCain. The gesture has not been reciprocated. Have you seen the body language of McCain in PBO's presence? It speaks for itself.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 8:22 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 8:22 pm EDT)
"Threw", not "through" a dinner.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 4:52 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 4:52 pm EDT)
Well perhaps you can convey that message to your republican friends. They don't seem to get it.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 5:02 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 5:02 pm EDT)
Hey Guys,
It's me the lurker. Don't you guys remember
Jon B Stephens from Orange Park, Fl. He was here quite a bit during the campaign. He was head blogger at McCain's website and attended the Repub
convention as well.
He's not worth the time. He starts out nice and ends up very insulting. His MO never changes.
He was really rude to Marilyn last year and after I commented to one of this blogs, he checked my profile and made a racist comment.
RID for sure.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 5:09 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 5:09 pm EDT)
LorethaJ
Thanks for the heads up. I think I vaguely remember you said that and you tracked him down.
The Crazy one. Thank you very much for the heads up.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 5:10 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 5:10 pm EDT)
howdy, yep, yep
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Thanks for the heads up.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 5:30 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 5:30 pm EDT)
thank you loretha. thank you for the heads up.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 5:59 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 5:59 pm EDT)
Boy Bradley, why are you rehashing the election? Your side lost, now go and try to regroup. There's nothing wrong with a 2 party government, but you folks just don't get it.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 4:55 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 4:55 pm EDT)
I keep hearing the 1968 analogy that swept Nixon into the White House. What is missed from this analysis is that a sitting president said that he would not seek nor would he accept the nomination. Hence, Nixon was not running against an incumbent. The candidate of hope, Bobby Kennedy was assassinated. In the same year, Martin Luther King was assassinated and there were urban riots throughout the country. The times were different. The politics were different. If Obama decides not to seek nor accept the nomination of the Democratic Party in 2012, then the analogy might be more apropos.
Just a thought!
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Jul 12th 2009 at 5:05 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 5:05 pm EDT)
I was waiting for SOMONE to actually say that RICHAR NIXON was NOT facing an INCUMBENT Challenge.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 5:23 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 5:23 pm EDT)
Our job is to keep our grassroots in the game. We need to keep reminding the O supporters why they voted for him.
Why should we be interested in placating people who've made up their minds and are hoping for PBO's policies to fail. We know what that means.
What you need to to is go and enlighten your side. You can't continue to be the party of NO. You can't continue to let the crazy fringe of your party dictate its fate. You're allowing them to cause you to self destruct in front of our eyes. Read any right leaning blog site. The loonies have taken control. They're a scary bunch and is causing your regional party shrinkage (shrinkage=Seinfield reference)
Take care of you own party before you start with the suggestions on how we should run ours.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 5:28 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 5:28 pm EDT)
you tell him cookemom.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 5:40 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 5:40 pm EDT)
You should try an exert that opinion to your fellow conservatives or Republicans, or whatever the sane ones are called. So many of you are distancing yourselves from yourselves.
You've been hijacked, but you should have known they were snakes when you invited them in to get their votes.
Now you're at their mercy and you don't have the numbers to do it without them.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 6:06 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 6:06 pm EDT)
thextreme of any party is not good, bu tI dare you to find the mean spirited and looney tune posts from any left leaning site, that threatens or condones violence.
Our biggest problem with the far left is that they are an impatient bunch and have set the bar so high for PBO, that they've become discouraged that he hasn't jumped the hurdle in their timeframe. In the end they want PBO to succeed.
BTW, you won't find them kicking anybody out of the party because they disagree.
Again, if you're what you want us to believe you are, you should be spending your time getting your own house in order. We got this on our side.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 5:29 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 5:29 pm EDT)
JB;
I'll tell you what if you can actually hold a civil
honest communication and not start going off the deep end. Than we can proceed with talks without pre-conditions. Other wise if you come with your fist than we will ex-communicate. Now you have got to admit that the "Religious Right" in the are displaying Racist,false witnessing, hurtful, threats,fear tactics and lies towards President Obama our beloved President who gave nothing but kindness but stern truth back to the Republican party. Lets face it the Republican party is guilty of acting exactly what Christ Jesus denounced.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 5:49 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 5:49 pm EDT)
JB;
But at what price though? You see President Obama has more security around him because he is threaten more than any other President in history and that is a fact. We see it with our own eyes towards President Obama and it breaks my heart. President Obama is putting his life on the line for us all because of HOME GROWN TERRORIST organizations. (I.E KKK, Skin heads, Lobbyist, FOX NEWS, The Bush Administration. Radio Personalities and corporate entities. think about that or how about this ware his skin for a month and see how you like be constantly mistreated.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 6:02 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 6:02 pm EDT)
Like I said JB
No lies; tell the truth.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 6:15 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 6:15 pm EDT)
JB, see what I mean? You got a lot of work to do in your party. Their main focus is on a technological instrument, the teleprompter. Maybe you can get them to join us in the 21st century.
You got a lot of work to do, my man. Start with Boy Bradley, but do us a favor. Educate him elsewhere.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 5:48 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 5:48 pm EDT)
LOLLL! Lack of INEXPERIENCE... O'Family, Brad just admitted that President Obama is experienced. A victory for you guys!
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Jul 12th 2009 at 6:05 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 6:05 pm EDT)
OH snap Jocelyne;
thanks for pointing that out
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Jul 12th 2009 at 6:24 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 6:24 pm EDT)
JB;
President Obama has an impressive record and is Experience to be the President of the United States of America and guess what HE is the President so respect is due period.
Here is my links
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Jul 12th 2009 at 6:37 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 6:37 pm EDT)
I have been reading all day, I try not to comment, as I am not American, but this was too much for me. I know he did not proof-read what he wrote, but BJ correcting all the typos made me mad. So use this for all it is worth Professor X.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 6:42 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 6:42 pm EDT)
I shore will big time cause it is on the blog.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 6:43 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 6:43 pm EDT)
sure. He He
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Jul 12th 2009 at 5:35 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 5:35 pm EDT)
We look at you as a distraction. We know what we have to do. We are busy calling our House and Senate representatives. We know what we have to do to help PBO fulfill his campaign promises.
Are we in 100% lockstep with everything? No. We even goso far as to call each other out. However at the end of the day we know we're on the same side, working toward a common goal.
You flatter yourself if you think your little stay here with us today is anything other than like the crazy uncle at afamily gathering.
It's Sunday, we're taking a breather by letting you entertain us. Tomorrow we'll be right back at it.
Don't worry about us, we got this.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 5:40 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 5:40 pm EDT)
Herd That!
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Jul 12th 2009 at 6:22 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 6:22 pm EDT)
then go tell your friends in high places to act like they want this country to succeed. tell em to put up or shut up; get on board, or get outta the way.
Elections have consequences, tell em that.
We got this over here. Anybodies welcome to join (even crazy uncles), but we don't stop to read bogus 8 page budget plans with no numbers on them. Maybe that's why the uproar over reading time, they're not use to substance.
What's it gonna be JB? You in or out?
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Jul 12th 2009 at 5:27 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 5:27 pm EDT)
What a wonderful week this is going to be. We have BRAD writting a whole essay, and JB writting multiple irrelavant things. God is good, because something is happebning right with the Obama-Biden adminstration.
When you have "people" trying to continuously convince others of something we are winning the good fight.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 5:43 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 5:43 pm EDT)
Bella,
You are so right. This is a week of victory for us and for President Obama. The enemy fights hardest when he's about to go down.
Sotomayor will be confirmed by an impressive margin.
PBO is going to set the record straight -- like he started today with his op-ed -- on the economy and debunk the lies about the stimulus.
PBO is going to set the blue dogs straight on health care reform.
The Obama adminstration is on the right track and the right side -- the peoples' side. That's why the G-N-O-P -- the party of hate and no plans who trashed our country for eight years -- is acting so ugly.
We kicked their tails in November, we're kicking it now and will continue to kick 'em so that we can bring about the change this country needs.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 5:57 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 5:57 pm EDT)
jb, the only way mcsame is going to win the re-election in 2010 is to vote yes to confirm the first lantio woman judge. and that's goes to other repukes.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 6:22 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 6:22 pm EDT)
I saw McCain in a 4th of July parade here in prescott, Arizona.
Boy is he a lot shorter than I thought...and older than he looks on TV.
He was campaigning for his 2010 senate seat. A woman walked by and asked for signatures of five people around me. They all said "no, no thank you".
Obama = 2009 Hybrid electric family sedan
McCain = '72 Oldsmobile with three bald tires and an oil leak (formally available with the option of a shiny new, never-before-used spare tire in the trunk, but she resigned).
In Obama We Trust!
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Jul 12th 2009 at 6:20 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 6:20 pm EDT)
This is the only time I will respond to one of your comments. If the shoe were on the other foot and McCain had won, you'd better know that is all we would hear.
What I can say with all sincerity is that President Obama earned his wealth by being an excellent student, brilliant thinker, excellent writer and by being for the people. I can say he understands what people like me are experiencing.
McCain who came from wealth and married wealth will never have a clue.
President Obama is for the people of this country.
That I know for sure.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 6:48 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 6:48 pm EDT)
No he just married wealth and aided in his own capture by being a piss poor pilot. He graduated at the bottom his class and did not think much of his country until he became a POW
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Jul 12th 2009 at 6:29 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 6:29 pm EDT)
Andrea,
McCain married quite well. He lives here in Arizona in one of his seven homes.
Ultimately I have never had respect for anyone who gains his or he wealth or position in life through marraige or inheritence. That is just me though.
President Obama earned everything he has. That is why he is a threat to the establishment. He found his way to the top office through hard work and with the help of his natural brilliance and demeanor.
So, so many politicians (like McCain, Bush, Kennedy, Kerry, and on and on) simply fell ass-backwards into office it seams.
Our politicians are NOT our leaders. They are public servants who are no smarter than any of us. Some are decent people but all are just average people.
They aren't super heroes, moral leaders, even though they are on TV 24/7 and the media makes them out as celibrities.
And, they work for us.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 6:50 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 6:50 pm EDT)
Ah, there it is, the Rezko reference. Gee JB, you almost made it outta here without the usual nutzoid talking point.
I'm proud of you though, you lasted longer than most.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 7:05 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 7:05 pm EDT)
yep, I'm from those parts. Check the public record, then come back and post the link where it says that anything was done illegally.
Again, I held you in higher esteem than that cheap shot. Your slip is beginning to show.
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Jul 13th 2009 at 3:11 am EDT (Updated Jul 13th 2009 at 3:11 am EDT)
Right! The Obama home purchase and Resco involvment is public record and there was a 22 page journalist interview during the Primary I printed off. All of the involvement with Resco was given and checked out by the press including the home purchase. None was illegal or hidden. Resco did not help with any of the purchase. You should research instead of just believing what your GOP party says to create a smear campaign.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 6:50 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 6:50 pm EDT)
How ever many he decides to own he'll buy them with his own hard earned money
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Jul 12th 2009 at 5:27 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 5:27 pm EDT)
g'night
thread too hard to think with.
have a good evening, all.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 5:45 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 5:45 pm EDT)
The riots in Xinjiang, the coup d'etat in Honduras and the riots in Iran all have a common thread. You will find extreme right wing war hawk forces in the USA netted with coupists, terrorists, death squads and torturers. Do a deep and public investigation and you will find like minded characters such as Rebiya Kadeer, Luis Posada, Abdulmalik Rigi, Billy Joya traveling in the same tight circles as their war hawk cohorts in the USA.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 5:45 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 5:45 pm EDT)
What documents are we to use for going door to door and phone banks with regard to Health-care reform specifically??
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Jul 12th 2009 at 6:38 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 6:38 pm EDT)
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Jul 12th 2009 at 5:51 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 5:51 pm EDT)
On GPS today the commentator Fareed Zakaria told a treasure trove of lies about the coup in Honduras. Evidently he has failed to read the denunciations of the coup by almost every nation in the world. I challenge Mr. Zakaria to a public forum and request of him to bring his portfolio of lies fashioned by his intellectually lightweight handlers.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 6:35 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 6:35 pm EDT)
What lies did he tell? I watched the show and after it I did my best to research the facts. While a person could draw different conclusions than Fareed Zakaria did, the facts that he spoke of regarding what led up to the "coup" do not appear to be in dispute. Also, I am curious as to your characterization of Zakaria's "handlers" as intellectual lightweights. Also, regarding your speculation that Zakaria did not "read the denunciations of the coup by almost every nation in the world", I believe he even stated on the program that the OAS had denounced the coup and that the United States was standing with the OAS. It's possible that I misheard or that you read more into Zakaria's remarks than I did. If so, please clarify for me.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 5:55 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 5:55 pm EDT)
A response to JB last comment just in case he didn't see it up above.
JB;
But at what price though? You see President Obama has more security around him because he is threaten more than any other President in history and that is a fact. We see it with our own eyes towards President Obama and it breaks my heart. President Obama is putting his life on the line for us all because of HOME GROWN TERRORIST organizations. (I.E KKK, Skin heads, Lobbyist, FOX NEWS, The Bush Administration. Radio Personalities and corporate entities. think about that or how about this ware his skin for a month and see how you like be constantly mistreated.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 6:27 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 6:27 pm EDT)
Brad and JBTURNER is the same person!
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Jul 12th 2009 at 6:31 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 6:31 pm EDT)
Split personalities. Very interesting.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 6:08 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 6:08 pm EDT)
Too much spam on the blog today.....
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Jul 12th 2009 at 6:19 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 6:19 pm EDT)
Yeah, and I get caught up in it despite myself.
Too much drama and spam and trolls. That means we are doing well right?
Right!
We are all in this together folks. Let's work for a common goal.
In Obama We Trust!
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Jul 12th 2009 at 7:10 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 7:10 pm EDT)
This president has extended a hand to the other side time and time again and all they do is smack it away and say NO
It is plain and simple if they can't have everything their way they are not going to play.
Even when Bush was in office if the Dems felt their support was for the good of this country they gave their support.
The repubs in congress are spoiled little brats who are set out to make this president pay for the fact the chose to abandon their own party principles to support the disaster of the last eight years
They are mad at themselves and rather than suck it up and shoulder their share of the responsibility they dumping their failures on this president of 7 months. They are being obstructionists at every turn and country is suffering for it.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 6:28 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 6:28 pm EDT)
Frat locker room train wreck.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 6:42 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 6:42 pm EDT)
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Jul 12th 2009 at 6:28 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 6:28 pm EDT)
I have tried to get on the blog a couple of times today and for the life of me I cannot understand why you guys are wasting time with these fools who have no lives or brains. Will come back tomorrow if the trash is thrown out.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 6:31 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 6:31 pm EDT)
The whole thread has been hijacked, willingly. UGH.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 6:36 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 6:36 pm EDT)
It's garbage night in my neighborhood! I'll se what I can do!
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Jul 12th 2009 at 6:37 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 6:37 pm EDT)
Correction ......
meant to say ..........
I'll see what I can do!
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Jul 12th 2009 at 6:16 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 6:16 pm EDT)
The powers that be are starting to align against our President's agenda for America. What I know for sure, is nothing worth having comes easy. Let's keep President Obama in our prayers, it will get tougher but if we continue to support him he will finally be able to move the country forward. True power comes from the people, not the politicians, let's continue to get the word out and support his vision for our country.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 6:23 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 6:23 pm EDT)
Cookemom,
You pursuaded me today!
Anyone else! Speak up...
In Obama We Trust!
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Jul 12th 2009 at 6:33 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 6:33 pm EDT)
Call me anything, but PLEASE, call me persuaded!
I'M PERSUADED!
Count me in!
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Jul 12th 2009 at 6:34 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 6:34 pm EDT)
When One "Sister Obama Sensation" is persuaded, we all are!!!
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Jul 12th 2009 at 6:28 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 6:28 pm EDT)
The folks on THIS blog don't need pursuading. It's up to you to pursuade the the folks you represent.
If you are who you say you are, then you'd best go and try to get your party back. Right now it's at the Beck(pun intended) and call of some real nut jobs that will leave you in teh wilderness for generations.
Get busy, we got this over here.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 6:28 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 6:28 pm EDT)
JB
Guess what everyone uses teleprompters especially NEWS Anchors as well as papers. So stop your insanity right there or I will call you out even more.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 6:35 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 6:35 pm EDT)
You are being willfully ignorant, which I find dishonest. You are not here to reform Brad. If that's your intent, then ask Brad where he gets his talking points. Maybe he'll invite you to that site. There, I'm sure you'll find a throng of folks to convert.
In the meantime, your party is fading away. The looneys are proud of it too. See that's the difference in being willfully ignorant and just plain stooopid.
I could never be a blog police. I welcome you and the desperation you show. It assures me that we're on the right track.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 7:03 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 7:03 pm EDT)
Don't worry about me. I'm on the winning side.
Lawd JB, you got to admit, it ain't easy cleaning up after elephants.
PS: if you know so much about politics, then you'd be better served rescuing your party from those numbnuts that have kidnapped your party.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 6:25 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 6:25 pm EDT)
I cannot believe that you all are engaging the trolls today. Don't you realize that by inviting one stray cat you invite them all? I'm out of here. Hopefully they will have vanished when I return.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 6:29 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 6:29 pm EDT)
Hi O Family! Got home from work after a very good "rowing my boat" day. I came here a spent the last hour reading the days posts and something came to mind.
Does anyone remember the very last night Prayer Debbie was here? I do, because someone followed her that night and copied and pasted all her posts. That was the last we saw of Prayer Debbie. It was awful and I, for one, miss her.
I've noticed today JBT has done a lot of copy and paste from the posts of several here. It just made me wonder if JBT is not the same person who got Prayer Debbie to leave us.
Just something to think about. Whatever you do, please my O Family, don't leave. We need every single one of us to continue doing what we have been doing. Busy week ahead.
With my "something to think about", I will leave just for tonight. The sun was very hot today and I have a headache. I'm in no shape to do the JBT blabber & blunder.
Have a Good Night Everyone!
GOSAL
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Jul 12th 2009 at 6:38 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 6:38 pm EDT)
Don't worry Marilyn I can hang; and I will go nuclear on any republican jokers who tries to mess with my O-family.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 6:39 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 6:39 pm EDT)
I know. I have seen you in action!
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It's true...he will.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 6:39 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 6:39 pm EDT)
Hi GOSAL,
Nope, that wasn't JB. I have my suspicions of who that was. JB's just here to hone his chops. Nothing too serious and not a bad way to spend a little time on the blog.
Remember that fly? We're toying with JB. We'll swat him when we get tired.
Have a good nite.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 6:45 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 6:45 pm EDT)
OK! If I can't trust a sister sensation who can I trust?
Gotcha! Wink! Wink!
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Jul 12th 2009 at 6:47 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 6:47 pm EDT)
......... hone his chops. .............
Hey Cookemom! Is that (hone his chops) a relative of honey nut cheerios?
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Jul 12th 2009 at 7:11 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 7:11 pm EDT)
see there, now you owe honey nut cheerios an apology. I would never use them on the same thread as he who wished he could be us.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 7:18 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 7:18 pm EDT)
OMG! Sorry! My hubby is probably mad too!!
Does this mean I lost the lead in the show?
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Jul 12th 2009 at 6:50 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 6:50 pm EDT)
Prove it JB.
Go back to the Republican base and denounce their lies; racist, inflammatory and other remarks in front and in the media; the news papers, radio, on the internet and also give President Obama RESPECT! IS that clear! He is also your COMMANDER IN CHIEF and he is fighting for you to! So you better Recognize! Us that clear.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 6:50 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 6:50 pm EDT)
ROTFLMAO!!!!
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Jul 12th 2009 at 6:53 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 6:53 pm EDT)
This was not for you Prof, was for JBT!
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Jul 12th 2009 at 6:57 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 6:57 pm EDT)
Understood.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 7:00 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 7:00 pm EDT)
JB,
We are so sorry because after all...it is all about YOU.
"...I know Obama would be better off with more bipartisanship"
Ya think?!
President Obama was the only president in modern history to hold a meeting in the chamber with only Republicans (no democrats) present. He wouldn't allow any democrats in to show his effort to truly involve them. Do you remember that?
Of course many in the GOP are playing the same old 20th century play book and it just don't work any more.
The world is moving forward with or without the Grand Ole' Party.
Thank god...
In Obama We Trust!
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Jul 12th 2009 at 6:43 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 6:43 pm EDT)
Hi Chris!
I know you are busy but .............
We are in dire need of something here, if you get my drift.
I hope you do. I know you're a very busy man and the hardest worker on this blog and we all love you for that.
But right now ........ WE NEED YOU!
Thanks,
GOSAL
P.S. - To my O Family, don't laugh at me, but this has worked in the past!
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Jul 12th 2009 at 6:46 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 6:46 pm EDT)
Hi guys, I'm getting ready to go over to whitehouse.gov to give my impression of a couple Republicans I have seen in the last two days on cspan. Finally, in my regular-person impression, there seem to be some who do not seem like used-car salesmen, who are not spouting talking points that make no sense, and they are doctors.
I hope the adminisration and congress will make sure to include THESE kind of Republicans in all the processes of creating healthcare reform, and will listen to their ideas. They actually seem sane, and have some real world experience. Perhaps they have reputations I am not aware of, not being a political person, but they seem like not the usual Republicans I have seen in the last few years.
they are...
Rep Michael Burgess R-TX
Rep Bill Cassidy R-LA
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Jul 12th 2009 at 6:55 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 6:55 pm EDT)
Hey O-family,
Signing off for the evening to have dinner with my husband. But before I go just want to say again I support President Obama in everything he does and I know we are going to be successful.
Nothing any troll who comes on here can convince me otherwise. Honestly, I don't know why they try. It's laughable.
President Obama is spot on with everything he wants to do. I'm originally from Chicago and he has not wavered from a vision he had even as a state senator. Even then he was talking about health care for all, energy and education. The three most important things for a people and a nation to succeed.
I love him. I love Michelle. I love Malia. I love Sasha. And I love this country.
Tomorrow it's back to work as I'll be calling Bayh again who sent me a response to my email about the public option. It was wishy-washy gobbly gook. He's not getting away with that.
Have a wonderful evening O-family!
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Jul 12th 2009 at 6:58 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 6:58 pm EDT)
Prove it JB.
Go back to the Republican base and denounce their lies; racist, inflammatory and other remarks in front and in the media; the news papers, radio, on the internet and also give President Obama RESPECT! IS that clear! He is also your COMMANDER IN CHIEF and he is fighting for you to! So you better Recognize! Us that clear.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 6:59 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 6:59 pm EDT)
Hi guys, I'm getting ready to go over to whitehouse.gov to give my impression of a couple Republicans I have seen in the last two days on cspan. Finally, in my regular-person impression, there seem to be some who do not seem like used-car salesmen, who are not spouting talking points that make no sense, and they are doctors.
I hope the adminisration and congress will make sure to include THESE kind of Republicans in all the processes of creating healthcare reform, and will listen to their ideas. They actually seem sane, and have some real world experience. Perhaps they have reputations I am not aware of, not being a political person, but they seem like not the usual Republicans I have seen in the last few years.
they are...
Rep Michael Burgess R-TX
Rep Bill Cassidy R-LA
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Jul 12th 2009 at 7:00 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 7:00 pm EDT)
R/I/D
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Jul 12th 2009 at 7:05 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 7:05 pm EDT)
Just to ease your mind before you go, Sarah Palin will not pay a penny of the legal fees associated with her ethics violation charges. Those expenses not covered by the legal staff in her employ will be covered by the legal defense fund set up by her supporters:
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She'll make millions on book deals and speakers fees, and she won't pay a cent to defend herself against allegations of ethics violations. In the meantime, she's abandoning the people of Alaska, and quitting her job just as she has done with every other job she's had. She's finished.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 7:06 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 7:06 pm EDT)
JB,
With all due respect you are simply full of you-know-what.
You come no here spewing the same old GOP rhetoric and now you play the victim.
I hope you find some real friends to play with someday, I really do.
In the meantime don't insult us with your false "all I wanted was a real conversation and was treated with a fist" BS.
OHG, you sound so incredibly pathetic and transparent and quite frankly it is embarrassing to witness.
Good luck...
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Jul 12th 2009 at 7:19 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 7:19 pm EDT)
I think it is the third time today you have said you are leaving and yet you remain
Are you looking for someone to concur with you or beg you to stay?
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Jul 13th 2009 at 12:02 am EDT (Updated Jul 13th 2009 at 12:02 am EDT)
YOU ARE A BLOODY LIAR. I HAVE GONE BACK TO SEVERAL OF YOUR POSTS. I'LL BE QUOTING THEM ON THE NEW THREAD IN THE MORNING.
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Jul 13th 2009 at 12:30 am EDT (Updated Jul 13th 2009 at 12:30 am EDT)
Sorry, thet was supposed to go to "JB" This blog works strangely sometimes. I should have used his/her name. Read about it tomorrow.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 7:05 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 7:05 pm EDT)
Way too much distractions and childish arguments taking place on the blog today...maybe i'll come back tomorrow. We have more important stuff we're fighting for. Partying words:
Ignore the trolls, REPORT the trolls, and let us focus on more urgent things.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 7:21 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 7:21 pm EDT)
JB - I was hoping you would have an opinion about the two Republicans I mentioned above
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Jul 12th 2009 at 7:11 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 7:11 pm EDT)
Updates from Iran.
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I thought this was interesting news being broadcast by state tv:
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15. In an unexpected move, ISNA - one of Iran's official news agencies - declared that recent unrests in China's Xinjiang Autonomous Province was provoked by US intervention in Chinese affairs. ISNA declared that China did all it could to quell an uprising fueled by foreign intervention.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 7:23 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 7:23 pm EDT)
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Jul 12th 2009 at 7:39 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 7:39 pm EDT)
Hey Prof no need to rid on my account (the post was directed to me). I got this. I happen to think that unless someone is totally offensive, they get to spout whatever. It's up to the individual on the site to respond or not. I've chosen to respond. However, I have grown wreary and I'm done with JB for now. I just don't think a RID is necessary. We've had way worse.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 7:35 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 7:35 pm EDT)
OK JB, I've had my fun with you. You didn't think I was taking this little tete-a-tete seriously, did you? You do know that I could give a wahoo about you or your party?
I will say this though, that even with all of their faults, it's a shame that the grand old party isn't so grand anymore. I'm not being arrogant at all.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with differing opinions on policy. That use to be done with decorum and statesmanship. But no, you had to invite the nuts in just to get their votes. Then you put a contract out on America, which you succeeded in darn near killing her. Soon after, it was more important to be led by a guy you'd rather have a drink with. Now you're stuck with that mentality. They have a stronghold on your party. Go get your party back, then let's have some serious conversatons.
So I'm done with you for this night, but it's been a slice....ciao
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Jul 12th 2009 at 7:46 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 7:46 pm EDT)
will do.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 7:27 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 7:27 pm EDT)
647 comments on this Thread.WASSUP with RID?
Is there a TROLL takeover?
Im finishing up my Lasagna and when I return,I do
not expect to see comments telling "O"family posters how and where to respond.
Just my snapshot impression..hope it's misleading.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 7:40 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 7:40 pm EDT)
JBTURNER - maybe you are not to familiar with our slow-pokey blog here, but I posted something above, twice in the last 1/2 hour, thought you may have an opinion on the Reps I was talking about.
or maybe you are really just looking for arguments...anyway, I will check back later.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 7:45 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 7:45 pm EDT)
Hi guys, I'm getting ready to go over to whitehouse.gov to give my impression of a couple Republicans I have seen in the last two days on cspan. Finally, in my regular-person impression, there seem to be some who do not seem like used-car salesmen, who are not spouting talking points that make no sense, and they are doctors.
I hope the adminisration and congress will make sure to include THESE kind of Republicans in all the processes of creating healthcare reform, and will listen to their ideas. They actually seem sane, and have some real world experience. Perhaps they have reputations I am not aware of, not being a political person, but they seem like not the usual Republicans I have seen in the last few years.
they are...
Rep Michael Burgess R-TX
Rep Bill Cassidy R-LA
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Jul 12th 2009 at 7:42 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 7:42 pm EDT)
yes we have had an invasion of trolls all day today. Some of us think they are the same person but regardless they speak with the same delusional voice.
Brad
JBTURNER
and Rusty Nuts
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Jul 12th 2009 at 7:49 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 7:49 pm EDT)
Here's my take:
-Boy Bradley is an immature ditto-head
-Russell/Rusty is either so far left, he's right; or either so far right he's come full circle left. I think he's strict libertarian though. No government, no taxes, no matter what.
-JB well Just Because they lost and there's nothing else to do right now. He can't rescue his party, lest they boot him out of it.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 7:44 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 7:44 pm EDT)
Hey Ggran, my intent was to just check in and mostly lurk today. I'll be darn if JB wasn't here, just a-hankerin for attention. Well, so much for my lurking. It was OK though.
I may have frustrated folks by responding to him, but his type keep you on your toes. He's the kind of person that you use to practice overcomng objections when we're making our calls.
It's all good. We got this.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 8:27 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 8:27 pm EDT)
Clearly think highly of your but I fail to see anything here to back your claims....
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Jul 12th 2009 at 8:40 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 8:40 pm EDT)
Oops let me restate that
Clearly you think highly of yourself but I fail to see anything here to backup your claims....
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Jul 12th 2009 at 8:36 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 8:36 pm EDT)
JBT............
Yes, I know I'm supposed to be gone. I'll admit, I've been lurking.
In regard to your statement to Cookemom .....
......... I'd knock you on your ass! You couldn;t possibly handle me.
JBT, I have no idea who you think you're talking to, but it's not Cookemom. You really don't want to mess with her. She will slap you so hard upside your head you won't even be awake in time for the 2012 election.
And another thing, have you no manners? Is that how you speak to a lady? Is that the type dialogue you have with your Mother or other female members of your family?
So much for you continuing to post how nice you have been to people here today! Just like a Republican, nice until someone says something you can't debate and then then you turn nasty and ugly. Doesn't that tell you anything as to why your party is where it is today. What's left of it, that is!
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Jul 12th 2009 at 8:33 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 8:33 pm EDT)
Hmm.... looks like you realized for yourself you don't live up to your own billing. Kind of embarrasing after you tooted your horn so loudly
Smoke and mirrors....
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Jul 12th 2009 at 8:24 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 8:24 pm EDT)
Here's an update on what's going on South of our border. I know everyone was ginned up over the goings on in Iran, but I think we should be paying some attention to what's going on our side of the globe too.
It's Still a Military Coup in Honduras
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We can debate whether or not Zelaya was wrong in trying to change the Constitution to get another term, but I feel like you cannot debate the illegality of the military taking out a sitting president and installing the replacement with NO vote of the people.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 8:40 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 8:40 pm EDT)
Vero, thank you very much for the link and thank you for the one that you provided the other day with the live-feed. (
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Jul 12th 2009 at 9:05 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 9:05 pm EDT)
What a mess,thanks Vero.I have to disect this piece a little later.Lots of info.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 9:25 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 9:25 pm EDT)
No problem. There is a lot going on, and our media isn't covering jack. So a lot of the information I am finding is in Spanish, which doesn't help me since I don't speak Spanish. I have found that blog to be helpful in giving some info.
It's not a good sign when they've kicked out the one outside press that has been covering things well. That link which Maritza, above, commented on is how I was able to view the scene when Zelaya tried to return last week. Without that organization being able to report from inside, we wouldn't have had ANY of the pictures of all of the protesters.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 9:22 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 9:22 pm EDT)
No problem. For some reason, what's going on there is bothering me even more than the Iranian election.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 9:27 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 9:27 pm EDT)
Thanks, Vero, for the link.
It is easy to put too far in the back of my mind that the everyday lives of ordinary people are not longer everyday or ordinary but unknowable and uncertain.
I am grateful for the reminders.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 8:39 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 8:39 pm EDT)
The only debates that counted were the ones between Obama and McCain. Note to you:McCain lost every one.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 8:48 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 8:48 pm EDT)
That was tactical. McCain couldn't generate much energy or interest. Obama vs McCain is like Ali vs Fraz...Joe the Plumber. People are still going to tune in to watch the champ.
When they finally did debate, McCain got beat every time.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 9:00 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 9:00 pm EDT)
as much as my extreme distaste for mccain was, i truly had my suspicions confirmed that he should be on aricept or a similar product to counteract the early signs of Alzheimers during the debate with charlie. he was truly unruly and erratic. my republican grandmother who has the utmost respect for him (and who knows why) said he looked as if he were drugged. i thought he looked as if he needed some!
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Jul 12th 2009 at 8:36 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 8:36 pm EDT)
right.....just keep bloviating
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Jul 12th 2009 at 8:54 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 8:54 pm EDT)
The debate was officially over Nov 4th you foolish Rebulican minion
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Jul 12th 2009 at 8:59 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 8:59 pm EDT)
How old are you?
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Jul 12th 2009 at 8:53 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 8:53 pm EDT)
lol at least spell correctly if you are trying to insult someone with words...
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Jul 12th 2009 at 8:41 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 8:41 pm EDT)
Sunday, July 12, 2009
Nearly six months ago, my administration took office amid the most severe economic downturn since the Great Depression. At the time, we were losing, on average, 700,000 jobs a month. And many feared that our financial system was on the verge of collapse.
The swift and aggressive action we took in those first few months has helped pull our financial system and our economy back from the brink. We took steps to restart lending to families and businesses, stabilize our major financial institutions, and help homeowners stay in their homes and pay their mortgages. We also passed the most sweeping economic recovery plan in our nation's history.
The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act was not expected to restore the economy to full health on its own but to provide the boost necessary to stop the free fall. So far, it has done that. It was, from the start, a two-year program, and it will steadily save and create jobs as it ramps up over this summer and fall. We must let it work the way it's supposed to, with the understanding that in any recession, unemployment tends to recover more slowly than other measures of economic activity.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 8:46 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 8:46 pm EDT)
I am confident that the United States of America will weather this economic storm. But once we clear away the wreckage, the real question is what we will build in its place. Even as we rescue this economy from a full-blown crisis, I have insisted that we must rebuild it better than before. For if we do not seize this moment to confront the weaknesses that have plagued our economy for decades, we will consign ourselves and our children to future crises, sluggish growth, or both.
There are some who say we must wait to meet our greatest challenges. They favor an incremental approach or believe that doing nothing is somehow an answer. But that is exactly the thinking that led us to this predicament. Ignoring big challenges and deferring tough decisions is what Washington has done for decades, and it's exactly what I sought to change by running for president.
Now is the time to build a firmer, stronger foundation for growth that not only will withstand future economic storms but that helps us thrive and compete in a global economy. To build that foundation, we must lower the health-care costs that are driving us into debt, create the jobs of the future within our borders, give our workers the skills and training they need to compete for those jobs, and make the tough choices necessary to bring down our deficit in the long run.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 8:51 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 8:51 pm EDT)
Already, we're making progress on health-care reform that controls costs while ensuring choice and quality, as well as energy legislation that will make clean energy the profitable kind of energy, leading to whole new industries and jobs that cannot be outsourced.
And this week, I'll be talking about how we give our workers the skills they need to compete for these jobs of the future. In an economy where jobs requiring at least an associate's degree are projected to grow twice as fast as jobs requiring no college experience, it's never been more essential to continue education and training after high school. That's why we've set a goal of leading the world in college degrees by 2020. Part of this goal will be met by helping Americans better afford a college education. But part of it will also be strengthening our network of community colleges.
We believe it's time to reform our community colleges so that they provide Americans of all ages a chance to learn the skills and knowledge necessary to compete for the jobs of the future. Our community colleges can serve as 21st-century job training centers, working with local businesses to help workers learn the skills they need to fill the jobs of the future. We can reallocate funding to help them modernize their facilities, increase the quality of online courses and ultimately meet the goal of graduating 5 million more Americans from community colleges by 2020.
Providing all Americans with the skills they need to compete is a pillar of a stronger economic foundation, and, like health care or energy, we cannot wait to make the necessary changes. We must continue to clean up the wreckage of this recession, but it is time to rebuild something better in its place. It won't be easy, and there will continue to be those who argue that we have to put off hard decisions that we have already deferred for far too long. But earlier generations of Americans didn't build this great country by fearing the future and shrinking our dreams. This generation has to show that same courage and determination. I believe we will.
The writer is president of the United States.
Yes We Will.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 9:00 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 9:00 pm EDT)
How blessed we are as a country to have this man as or leader!
Thank you for posting
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Jul 12th 2009 at 9:08 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 9:08 pm EDT)
amen nettie!
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Jul 12th 2009 at 9:29 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 9:29 pm EDT)
ditto!
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Jul 12th 2009 at 8:44 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 8:44 pm EDT)
Tomorrow starts the hearings for Justice Sotomayor. I'm confident that she'll be confirmed. Let's hope the hearings go well as Justice Sotomayor demonstrates to America why PBO chose her as the next jurist on the SCOTUS.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 8:51 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 8:51 pm EDT)
Sotomayor is an excellent choice.
The Repubs know it to but they will kick and scream spew ridiculous nonsense and once again embarrass themselves in public but she will be confirmed.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 9:14 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 9:14 pm EDT)
Leahy, Sessions Announce Witness List For Sotomayor Hearing
WASHINGTON (Thursday, July 9, 2009) - Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.) and Ranking Member Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.) Thursday announced the witness list for the confirmation hearing for Judge Sonia Sotomayor to be an Associate Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court.
The confirmation hearing is scheduled to begin on July 13 at 10:00 a.m. The lists of witnesses invited by the Majority and Minority of the Judiciary Committee follow. A panel of witnesses from the American Bar Association will also testify. For more information about the Supreme Court, the Sotomayor nomination, and hearing details, visit the Senate Judiciary Committee website.
American Bar Association Witnesses
Kim Askew, Chair of Standing Committee Mary Boies, Primary Reviewer
Majority Witnesses
Michael Bloomberg, Mayor, City of New York Chuck Canterbury, National President, Fraternal Order of Police David Cone, former Major League Baseball pitcher JoAnne A. Epps, Dean, Temple University Beasley School of Law, on behalf of the National Association of Women Lawyers Louis Freeh, former Director, Federal Bureau of Investigation Michael J. Garcia, former U.S. Attorney, Southern District of New York Wade Henderson, President and CEO of the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights Patricia Hynes, President, New York City Bar Association Dustin McDaniel, Attorney General, State of Arkansas Robert Morgenthau, former District Attorney, New York County, New York Ramona Romero, National President, Hispanic National Bar Association Congressman Jose E. Serrano, New York 16th District Theodore M. Shaw, Professor, Columbia Law School Kate Stith, Lafayette S. Foster Professor of Law, Yale Law School Congresswoman Nydia Velázquez, Chair of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus.
Minority Witnesses
Linda Chavez, President, Center for Equal Opportunity Sandy Froman, Esq., Former President, National Rifle Association of America Dr. Stephen Halbrook, Attorney Tim Jeffries, Founder, P7 Enterprises Peter Kirsanow, Commissioner, U.S. Commission on Civil Rights David Kopel, Esq., Independence Institute John McGinnis, Professor, Northwestern University School of Law Neomi Rao, Professor, George Mason University School of Law Frank Ricci, Director of Fire Services, ConnectiCOSH (Connecticut Council on
Occupational Safety and Health) David Rivkin, Esq., Partner, Baker Hostetler Nick Rosenkranz, Professor, Georgetown University School of Law Ilya Somin, Professor, George Mason University School of Law Lieutenant Ben Vargas, New Haven Fire Department Dr. Charmaine Yoest, Americans United for Life
A memorandum providing guidance for the hearings will be available Thursday afternoon. Guidelines for media and public attendance at the hearings are available online.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 9:31 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 9:31 pm EDT)
I see Frank Ricci is on teh minority's witness list. He's one of the firefighters that took the City of New Haven to court regarding the disallowing the firefighter's test.
Well, it turns out that he also sued New Haven to get his job because he was dyslexic. He settled out of court for the job and lawyer fees.
It sounds like he sued to get his job originally, under the same premise that he objects to now.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 9:35 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 9:35 pm EDT)
interesting...
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Jul 12th 2009 at 9:51 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 9:51 pm EDT)
I read that earlier. That is very interesting. I wonder how the Democrats will use this information. Carefully, I'm sure. It's helpful, but would add fuel to the race baiting fire the Reps are stoking.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 10:08 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:08 pm EDT)
I hope they don't use it at all. The opposition is trying to make the New Haven case about the firefighters. The appeals court ruled on whether the City of New Haven had the right to throw the test out.
The appeals court was not ruling for or against the firefighters, only for or against the city's action relative to their acknowledging the written portion of the test.
If I'm the dems at this hearing, I would simply thank him for coming to the procedings. No way they should make this about him or the firefighters.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 10:14 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:14 pm EDT)
Very true. It's not about the firefighters.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 9:33 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 9:33 pm EDT)
Is it opening statements Monday and then the questioning on Tuesday until...?
Just as something to click on if a statement gets under our skins, here's the "Stand With Sotomayor" action center link
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Jul 12th 2009 at 9:46 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 9:46 pm EDT)
Peg,
Thanks for the link to "Stand With Sotomayor."
I sent a letter on behalf of Judge Sotomayor to several papers. I'll continue to send letters this week using the action center link. I hope others join in.
P.S.
There was a woman with the last name of Carter that was a guest blogger here some time back. The topic involved going green and climate change. It generated a lot of interest. The administration might want to consider doing that more often, if it can.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 10:09 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:09 pm EDT)
I'm guessing that in August OFA will start getting out materials and actiona centers about climate/energy. Aren't you?
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Jul 12th 2009 at 9:00 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 9:00 pm EDT)
Post from jackie koiner Greatgran's hope Blog:
REQUIEM FOR TROLLS AKA TROLLS IGNORE ....and Reasons Why.
By VA . Greatgran Dijon Elitist in Service to Pres. Obama - Aug 21st, 2008 at 3:08 am EDT
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The reason I created this event was twofold.First out of respect for my "O" family.Secondly.in response to many paid TROLLS that literally invade our website.I am convinced that our passion to share ideas, information , frustrations,and disagreements have been purposely distractive and disrupted by the opponents to our Grass Roots Campaign.How do you know a Troll?Sometimes you won't right away.We have always attracted visitors that are lookin for answers,discussion and those who are just curious,and should never be dismissed as Trolls, because they offer resistance in a respectful way.If they are adamant and repetitive we know moving on to another thought is our way to disengage quietly,effectively. The abusive Trolls are obvious.They are insulting to BARACK.I don't mean questioning a decision or position,I mean abusive and insulting language.This dirisive behavior, name calling,etc is directed at the campaign and other bloggers as well.Hard to take I know, espiecially when we can let loose elsewhere to these miserable people.However,it has been proven that the most effective result is to ignore.No engagement,no discourse of any kind,just ignore.One can REPORT,IMMEDIATELY,but HQ is not always,immediate.Watch out for those Trolls that enter into an ongoing conversation or discussion, joining one side to engage abusively toward the other.Another trick. Thanks to all for keeping us focused on our Goal. OBAMA / BIDEN 08
....still in 09
If this isn't the best darn Lasagna? Yummy
I sent you some Cookemom
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Jul 12th 2009 at 9:12 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 9:12 pm EDT)
Got your lasagna Ggran, it's delicious. I'm gonna have it with some garlic bread and a salad. It's a perfect meal, nourishing and filling. Yep, yep. Thanks
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Jul 12th 2009 at 10:37 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:37 pm EDT)
If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you;
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or, being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or, being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise;
If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with triumph and disaster
And treat those two imposters just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with wornout tools;
If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breath a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on";
If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with kings - nor lose the common touch;
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you;
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run -
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man my son!
---R.Kipling
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Jul 12th 2009 at 9:04 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 9:04 pm EDT)
this interview with cigna leadership now retired on bill moyers friday is FASCINATING and even with it's small viewership, the corporate media will have to work double time with the health care industry to counteract this message; BUT ONLY if someone noteworthy reports it...the HC industry is spending 14 million per day to convince us we don't need reform of any substance.
watch and forward to whomever you may know who blogs, send to ed and rachel and keith (they are our best shots), and anyone else who needs to know what's going on with the health care debate.
i've been blocked from most of the msnbc sites as i'd be busy expressing my opinions of pat on msnbc if they'd listen; they won't. please let's get this out there!
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Jul 12th 2009 at 9:11 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 9:11 pm EDT)
Thank you! I will share it with all my email contacts.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 9:46 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 9:46 pm EDT)
Health Care Reform could easily be paid for by putting a .25 cent tax on every junk food item. Every soda, candy bar, chips, mc d burger, a&W fries etc.
This would easily bring in over 2.5 million a day!
And if anyone objects and does not want to pay the money they will be that much healthier, saving tax dollars on the other end.
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marytnurse, supporting Barack Obama until I see his library built on donations from We The People
Jul 12th 2009 at 10:15 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:15 pm EDT)
how about just repealing the bush tax cuts? aren't we all flourishing with the tax cuts he provided??
the budget they talk about is for TEN YEARS of health care; an amount far less than ONE YEAR of bush tax cuts.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 9:16 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 9:16 pm EDT)
You got it Maryt.I'll send Keith and Rachel and
newspaper editorials.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 9:16 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 9:16 pm EDT)
It was a fascinating eye opening look at the insurance industry
I have been telling everyone I know to go to PBS and watch it on line
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Jul 12th 2009 at 9:39 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 9:39 pm EDT)
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Jul 12th 2009 at 9:12 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 9:12 pm EDT)
Public Option :
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MORE ON WHY WE NEED A PUBLIC OPTION
CHOICE
Americans deserve the right to choose their own healthcare. Congress must act to give Americans more choices for their personal healthcare by allowing universal availability of a public healthcare option like Medicare. Limiting choice to for-profit insurance only, is the same broken healthcare system we have right now.
COMPETITION
Capitalism thrives on competition. The more healthcare choices the American consumer has to choose from the harder the healthcare supplier will work to be chosen. A public healthcare option would bring new competition into the market driving lower prices and incentives for better service and care.
COMFORT
There is no need to create something new or unfamiliar to the American people. Americans already know about for-profit insurance and they already know about Medicare. Medicare has been around for over 40 years. Most people know someone over the age of 65 already on Medicare. There is nothing new about Medicare, now we need to make a public option like Medicare available to all Americans.
FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
What is Dr. Dean's plan?
Governor Howard Dean, M.D., is not proposing a specific plan. We are drawing a line in the sand over the key principle of real healthcare reform: availability of a public healthcare option. A universally available public option like Medicare is the only way to guarantee healthcare for all Americans and its inclusion in healthcare legislation passed by Congress this year is non-negotiable.
What does "universally available" mean?
A universally available public option would be open to anyone regardless of gender, race, religion, income or employer.
What does "public option" mean?
A pubic option would allow anyone and everyone to choose a healthcare plan provided by the government like Medicare is today.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 9:19 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 9:19 pm EDT)
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What about single payer healthcare?
In America, we already offer single payer healthcare to our Veterans through the Veterans Health Administration. Americans over the age of 65 already benefit from a single payer system provided in Medicare. Single payer systems thrive in every other industrialized country where citizens have government provided healthcare.
Our position is that even in those countries, like Britain and Canada, citizens are allowed to purchase for-profit insurance -- if they want it. We believe Americans deserve the right to choose their own healthcare and therefore a public healthcare option like Medicare must be made available for any American to choose.
What about HR676 or other single payer bills already purposed?
Governor Howard Dean, M.D. is not proposing a specific plan. We are drawing a line in the sand over the key principle of real healthcare reform: availability of a public healthcare option. If the final bill allows Americans to choose between for-profit insurance or a universally available public healthcare option, then it will meet the key principles and deserve our support.
A universally available public option like Medicare is the only way to guarantee healthcare for all Americans and its inclusion in healthcare legislation passed by Congress this year is non- negotiable.
HEALTH CARE FACTS AND FIGURES
Nearly 9 million Americans have lost their health insurance since 2000.
1 in 6 Americans have no healthcare insurance at all. That's over 50 million people.
Millions more are under-insured for the healthcare they need. Estimates are as high as 75 million Americans may not have enough coverage to cover their own healthcare.
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marytnurse, supporting Barack Obama until I see his library built on donations from We The People
Jul 12th 2009 at 9:28 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 9:28 pm EDT)
thanks rich!
i've grown increasingly doubtful that the bought and paid for senators (and some representatives as well!) will not allow a decent health care reform bill to be presented. the insurance and big pharma industry own them, and they know that money buys votes...they also know that we are too much of lemmings to vote their bottoms out if they vote against health care.
i think soon it will be time to revolt in the streets. we should be taking notes on how iran did it!
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Jul 12th 2009 at 9:44 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 9:44 pm EDT)
...I think we're gonna wind up with the co-ops :/
I think I'd rather see a bill with no alternative than a co-op.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 9:57 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 9:57 pm EDT)
Mary,
Don't go down that road. If we keep calling it out then they cannot do this in secret. We have to keep going.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 10:05 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:05 pm EDT)
oh i'm all about continuing the fight-absolutely. and i will continue to do the same. soon it will be time here in iowa to campaign against grassley with sincere fervor. he is one of those bought and paid for politicians.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 11:35 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 11:35 pm EDT)
Ha! Speak for yourself please. I'm not too much of a lemming to vote them out. I have no problem with voting them out.
No, no, no, I would love to, and would be more than willing to campaign for someone who is willing to work with this President.
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Jul 13th 2009 at 12:32 am EDT (Updated Jul 13th 2009 at 12:32 am EDT)
well, of course everyone would HERE...except for the bridge dwellers of course. i mean the general public. lemmings. listen to what the corporate media says...
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Jul 12th 2009 at 9:43 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 9:43 pm EDT)
Thanks Rich, I use this.It's my fact sheet.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 9:57 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 9:57 pm EDT)
Hi, rich,
I noticed you answered me up above. I gave a link and some quotes from the President about Health Care Reform:
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And in a reply, I explained that "I posted the link and the quotes above because I am concerned that that material from the link rich posted (from PublicOptionIsTo.org/MoveOn.or g Political Action) could lead people to believe that some things are features of "Public Option" but the President's discussion makes clear these features apply to private insurers, too.
"It seems pretty important to notice that full Health Care Reform can include regulation of private insurers.
"We can't let Health Care Reform be identified all and only with public option.
"We need regulation for private plans."
(By the way, I forgot to add that we also need reformation of public plans.)
You answered: "Re: Public Option in Health Care reform By rich Today at 6:03 pm EDT (Updated Today at 6:03 pm EDT) YES WE CAN let Health Care Reform be identified all and only with public option."
Now I'm posting because I'd like to know why you think that, what you make of the rest of the President's core principles and ideas. And maybe some of Nancy DeParle's, too?
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Jul 12th 2009 at 9:49 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 9:49 pm EDT)
This is the name of a 19 year old boy who was shot and killed at a demonstration THAT WAS PEACEFUL on July 5th, at the airport in Honduras.
Zelaya was trying to return to his country after he had been taken by the military in the middle of the night and transported to Costa Rica in a military coup. On July 5th, the military blanketed the airport and prevented the return, but while demonstrators were waiting for Zelaya during the day, a skirmish broke out between the demonstrators and the military, and Isis Obed Murillo was shot.
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As with Neda, it is unclear who exactly shot the boy, but it's safe to say that the ones with guns weren't the demonstrators.
Just thought I should put his name out there since our media doesn't seem to care and the Republicans in Congress are siding with these coup leaders. Interesting how they sided with the protesters in Iran, but not in Honduras. If Zelaya was so wrong and if people didn't like him, then why couldn't democratic mechanisms like ELECTIONS remove him?
This coup has the very dirty factors of race and class tied into it, and less of issues related to protecting democracy. I cannot help but notice a difference in the "look" of the ousted president:
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and the newly installed "president:"
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Seems like PBO's inclinations in both Iran and Honduras have run up against the establishment, and he has held fast to his convictions. I pray he continues and I pray he remains safe in holding onto what he knows is right for the masses.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 9:54 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 9:54 pm EDT)
Good post Vero
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Jul 12th 2009 at 10:23 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:23 pm EDT)
I am fired up by this and I can't shake this feeling that PBO is at risk with these types of things happening. I'm not saying AT ALL that we're looking at military coups and what not, but the forces of the pro-corporate, all white establishment are lining up and consolidating their power.
Another thing that is bothering me...the banks and these toxic assets. The financial market is crippling the recovery still. I know it. It's not about all of the fancy theories we are hearing. They are still holding us hostage because they don't want to realize all of their losses, so they'd rather a) force another TARP situation, or b) slowly bleed out their losses, rather than just get it over with.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 10:39 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:39 pm EDT)
'They are still holding us hostage because they don't want to realize all of their losses, so they'd rather a) force another TARP situation, or b) slowly bleed out their losses, rather than just get it over with.'
I think we're looking at option b.
This is why resolution authority (which is in PBO's financial reform package) is important. It's gives the F.D.I.C power to seize and unwind these big banks so we don't have to bail them out again.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 9:52 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 9:52 pm EDT)
My visit with Sen Boxer's aide about health care LONG
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Jul 12th 2009 at 10:00 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:00 pm EDT)
SOunds like a good meeting
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Jul 12th 2009 at 11:17 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 11:17 pm EDT)
Wonderful news. I guess that means I can focus all of my attention on Sen. Feinstein.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 9:55 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 9:55 pm EDT)
"The total costs of the CAA[Clean Air Act] were $523 billion for the 20-year period; total benefits equaled $22.2 trillion--a net benefit of approximately $21.7 trillion."
In 1970 the U.S. Congress passed the landmark CAA(Clean Air Act) proclaiming that it would restore urban air quality. It was no coincidence that the law was passed during a 14-day Washington, D.C., smog alert.
The Clean Air Act Amendments (CAAA) of 1990
The overall goal of the CAAA is to reduce the pollutants in the air by 56 billion pounds a year--224 pounds for every man, woman, and child--when the law is fully phased in by 2005. Other aims were to cut acid rain in half by 2000, reduce smog and other pollutants, and protect the ozone layer by phasing out chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs) and related chemicals....In The Benefits and Costs of the Clean Air Act, 1970 to 1990 (1997), the first report mandated by the CAA on the monetary costs and benefits of controlling pollution, the EPA concluded that the economic value of clean air programs was 42 times greater than the total costs of air pollution control during the 20-year period. The study found that numerous positive consequences occurred in the U.S. economy because of CAA programs and regulations. The CAA affected industrial production, investment, productivity, consumption, employment, and economic growth. In fact, the study estimated that total agricultural benefits from the CAA were almost $10 billion. The EPA compared benefits to direct costs or expenditures. The total costs of the CAA were $523 billion for the 20-year period; total benefits equaled $22.2 trillion--a net benefit of approximately $21.7 trillion."
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Jul 12th 2009 at 10:07 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:07 pm EDT)
Thanks for the link and quotes.
I am very shaky when thinking in this topic... But it seems to be useful to know about this "old" history, when I think of the Waxman-Markey Clean Energy Bill. ???
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Jul 12th 2009 at 10:24 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:24 pm EDT)
I am too. When the energy debate really starts gearing up, I'm really going to need to bone up fast.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 10:25 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:25 pm EDT)
It's incredible that the net benefit of cleaning the air were $21,700,000,000,000. All we hear about are the costs of programs.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 10:31 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:31 pm EDT)
Same thing with health care. All we hear about the cost of doing reform. Not what we'd save. Not the lives saved for people who will be covered. This entire debate is dominated by the short term costs, as opposed to the myriad long terms gains.
If we all thought like that, many of us wouldn't have gone to college, and beyond, wouldn't have bought our home or car, and wouldn't be saving for retirement.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 10:08 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:08 pm EDT)
I've posted their study on the the public plan, but there are other good pieces on the site as well that we can e-mail to these wishy-washy senators
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Jul 12th 2009 at 10:23 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:23 pm EDT)
Thanks for the link.
Here's a quick read persuasive bit I took from it: "If coupled with broad system reforms, the average family could save $2,314 a year by 2020, as the annual increase in health costs slowed from 6.7 percent to 5.5 percent. Cumulative national savings over the period 2010 to 2020 would be $3 trillion, compared with projected trends."
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Andréa- (You've called him everything else- now call him Mr. President!)
Jul 12th 2009 at 10:29 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:29 pm EDT)
I swear it seems so straight forward here in the real world. I don't understand how some of these Congress folks can be so brain dead.
Does the lobby have that much power over them???
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Kimberly Helen Hussein
Jul 12th 2009 at 10:34 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:34 pm EDT)
'Does the lobby have that much power over them???'
Probably.
I think the issue is that the Senate is too much of a club. They only care about what their friends(fellow senators) think.
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Kimberly Helen Hussein
Jul 12th 2009 at 10:32 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:32 pm EDT)
Yes :)
I just sent that to all these flimsy Dems....I feel better doing so.
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Caldarone
Jul 12th 2009 at 10:26 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:26 pm EDT)
I worked so hard and donated money I didnt have to President Obama, he had a organization that mobilized so many new voters and people into the political process. I felt like I had a stake in really making a difference in this country..
Obama got elected with a "MANDATE" the american people voted overwhlemingly for his policies and agenda. And for some reason he is NOT PUSHING his agenda, he continues to want this bypartison "BS" which he is NEVER going to get. The republicans have drawn a line in the sand they want him to fail, and these conservadems are in lock step w/ the republicans to help make this failure of policies and to stop any type of progress w/ healthcare.. Just so they can go home and say "they didnt vote w/ Obama" in hopes to get re-elected..
It was the INTERNET that help get Obama elected, and these Conservadems who are just holding out on healthcare "public option" so they can get money from the Insurance Companies and Big Pharma to get relected..
I so disappointed I see now our goverment is not for the people, they are for CORPORATIONS. I was told that Obama was not going to bring change other than the change of color in the president from white to black. Thats the only change I see.
Can someone please tell me "WHERE IS THE CHANGE"
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Kimberly Helen Hussein
Jul 12th 2009 at 10:31 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:31 pm EDT)
'I was told that Obama was not going to bring change other than the change of color in the president from white to black. Thats the only change I see.'
Ugh.
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Czarina Vero - who loves her new President - OBAMA!!!!!
Jul 12th 2009 at 10:37 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:37 pm EDT)
If you don't think being on the precipice of health care reform isn't change, then I'd like to know what what health care reform was happening before Nov. 4th.
If you don't think passing a $800B stimulus which for the next 2 years will inject billions into infrastructure and energy and technology projects around our country isn't change, then I don't know what you want.
If you don't think having a climate bill already passing the House isn't change, then you need to tell me what your envisioning.
This process may be bumpy. There may be compromises that we HATE (you even mentioned Conservadems and how hard it is to deal with them). But make no mistake, things are being shook up. It may not be speedy change...but Obama said - there will be false starts and set backs, it will take time, but we will get there.
Have a little more faith in yourself and in our new, six month old government.
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Kimberly Helen Hussein
Jul 12th 2009 at 10:43 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:43 pm EDT)
Problem is people don't listen to PBO.
The get their 'knowledge' from blogs and Bill Maher.
Sick of this 'gimme instant gratification' nonsense.
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Peg
Jul 12th 2009 at 10:40 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:40 pm EDT)
oh dear. and ugh.
Caldarone, go to
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the white House web sit and you'll see in the middle of the page a dozen -- yes 12-- acts that have been signed into law already! and look carefully, is there any that would have benn enacted in the past administration?
It's hard work, making change, but you can figure out how to help...
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cookemom, can't think of a fancy tag, so I'll just be me
Jul 12th 2009 at 10:45 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:45 pm EDT)
You do realize that the executive branch is distinct and separate from the legislative branch, right? How about joining us in contacting those dreaded conservadems.
Of course when folks ask, where is the change and post how they donated and worked for the election, it seems like they somehow thought it would be easy. They weren't listening when PBO said that the oppositon was going to resist and fight us at every turn.
Time to be real and either continue in the fight, or get out of the way, so that we can keep the O train moving.
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Andréa- (You've called him everything else- now call him Mr. President!)
Jul 12th 2009 at 10:45 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:45 pm EDT)
Dude or Dudette if you have to ask then you sure as hell have not been paying attention.
Or is this another personality emerging...
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Rock on Mr. President!!
Jul 12th 2009 at 10:58 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:58 pm EDT)
July 20 will be 6 months in office
If you did work as hard and donate anything to helping elect PBO then you really did make a difference
If you cannot see even inklin' of change considering what he's accomplished thus far that I don't know what to tell you Go to whitehouse.gov and check out what "he" "the white house" has been doing
We're coming off of a 4-5 year period of mania...a manic country...with no leadership
Thinking Congress has some adjusting as well as other Americans
Look at his appointments alone!
Seems to me it's so transparent to anyone paying attention right now the level of influence corporations had and have on our legislators and legislative process
Could it be that you're getting a little impatient and cynical...hey lots of here go through it...
I think he has accomplished a great deal thus far...congress has to get their act in order
Write them and tell them you're sick and tired of the games, posturing, and stagecraft...
That we sent DC a mandate (and our states for that matter) that it is time to GET THINGS DONE!!
No more messing around
Whomever told you it's just a change from white to black then....they were wrong
POTUS is getting warmed up...consider the first year pre-season....Wait for it, participate, pay attention, direct your concerns to the appropriate parties involved
Surely you didn't expect the POTUS to have some magic wand or a staples button "that was easy"
Surely you understood if you did work as hard as you say you did
Too bad we have to watch the ridiculous circus but the most level headed, thoughtful, balanced, insightful, individual in AMERICA right now TODAY is the POTUS
Chill a bit...
Turn off the TV if it's getting to you those blabber heads can surely stir up stupidness
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Loretta
Jul 12th 2009 at 11:04 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 11:04 pm EDT)
It is not President Obama that you should be criticizing. YOUR responsibility did not end once he was elected.
To guarantee that his policies are implemented YOU should be calling YOUR Senator and Congressman/woman, since they appear to be fighting against his agenda tooth and nail.
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sduncan
Jul 12th 2009 at 11:07 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 11:07 pm EDT)
Your profile says you are very deceptive and nothing but a distraction. Your statements indicates you are lacking in knowledge.
Fyi
Go here and educate yourself.
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Message from the Governor
Watch video of the State Agency Heads Meeting
This website is provided as a public service so Georgia citizens can understand where the federal American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 dollars are allocated and how the funds are utilized to benefit the state. I am committed to ensuring that the public is fully aware of the stimulus dollars Georgia accepts so that we can be held accountable for how this money is spent.
Sonny Perdue
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Ron
Jul 13th 2009 at 3:28 am EDT (Updated Jul 13th 2009 at 3:28 am EDT)
The president is moving ahead on all his major campaign promises: fix the economy, fix the financial system, fix health care, fix energy dependence, fix environmental degradation, fix the education system, fix foreign relations. And you ask: 'Where's the change?' You might not like his solutions, but you cannot claim there's no change.
Bush didn't know why he wanted to be president, then hid out in the White House for 8 years because he had basically nothing to offer the people. Obama knew why he wanted to be president, came into office with his program in mind, is proceeding to execute it, and is certainly not hiding out in the White House, but is on TV every single day, it seems, selling his program to the people at home and abroad.
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Jul 13th 2009 at 3:46 am EDT (Updated Jul 13th 2009 at 3:46 am EDT)
Plus Pres. Obama is the first president in recent history to look at the solutions needed for the long run instead of just short term re-election needs. He has studied what needs to be done to help our country. He had a plan and is on top of it. He respects the different branches of government and his role in it. Read his book Audacity of Hope. This will enable you to understand where he comes from and how he operates. Check out the list of the first 100 days in office.
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Andréa- (You've called him everything else- now call him Mr. President!)
Jul 12th 2009 at 10:36 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:36 pm EDT)
Not sure if this was posted already, but no harm in repeating.
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Kimberly Helen Hussein
Jul 12th 2009 at 10:41 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:41 pm EDT)
I think it's possible that the recession might (technically) be over already, but it's gonna be rough going for awhile.
Kinda like a hurricane. Even when it's over it still ain't pretty.
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Andréa- (You've called him everything else- now call him Mr. President!)
Jul 12th 2009 at 10:47 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:47 pm EDT)
You may be on to something Kim
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V-Day
Jul 12th 2009 at 11:46 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 11:46 pm EDT)
Definetly...my sense is that the bottom bottom of the market will be the end of summer...and then it will be a slow upward journey from there. The marker is real estate.
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VA . Greatgran 'Grab A Mop' for President Obama
Jul 12th 2009 at 10:53 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:53 pm EDT)
Yep,I agree.I think the downward spiral has slowed
almost to a halt.That in itself is remarkable.Our
President and his administration are going to try
to educate the people over and over that the
climb up from the Bush/Cheney abyss is going to
take time.
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Scott in PA
Jul 13th 2009 at 4:31 am EDT (Updated Jul 13th 2009 at 4:31 am EDT)
I have to disagree. I think we are still going to see much worse. I know too many people who are on unemployment that is about to run out.
I think we will see quite a few more foreclosures.
I also know several people who are on the verge of losing their jobs, or have recently been told they will need to take time off.
Too early to say the recession has leveled off.
However, I hope you are correct and I am wrong.
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Peg
Jul 12th 2009 at 10:43 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:43 pm EDT)
wonderful to read and I'm saying
g'nite
quick before anything less wonderful gets posted!
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cookemom, can't think of a fancy tag, so I'll just be me
Jul 12th 2009 at 10:48 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:48 pm EDT)
too late per, I caught you, but don't worry, I'm out of the door with ya before it closes.
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sduncan
Jul 12th 2009 at 11:24 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 11:24 pm EDT)
Really good news.
I think I will leave on that good note.
God Bless all of you and Our First Family.
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SFT
Jul 13th 2009 at 1:16 am EDT (Updated Jul 13th 2009 at 1:16 am EDT)
Sure do agree--I'm on the north shore of Lake Superior near Grand Marais and town is loaded with tourists. Stores are so busy you can't get in them. My daughter, in IL went to a mall at noon to miss the crowd and couldn't get a parking place. Lots of action she said. She's had a Master's in Econ and thinks we're starting upward.
Keep HOPE shining.
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Kimberly Helen Hussein
Jul 12th 2009 at 10:51 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:51 pm EDT)
Nighty night everybody!
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Loretta
Jul 12th 2009 at 11:08 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 11:08 pm EDT)
I have just arrived on the scene, and you leave. Oh well, sweet dreams.
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VA . Greatgran 'Grab A Mop' for President Obama
Jul 12th 2009 at 11:13 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 11:13 pm EDT)
Good Night 'O' Family sisters and brothers.
I'm doing some fast napping tonite..so excited
because the Man is back in town.BHO is back in
town.Can't wait for the Fireworks.I'm all shook
up.
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Nádia Nádila
Jul 12th 2009 at 10:58 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 10:58 pm EDT)
Good Night!!!
Sou do Brasil.
Obama Parabéns por sua visita a Africa.Fiquei muito feliz e surpresa, espero que o senhor possa ajudar a Africa, que tem passado nos últimos anos por tantas doenças e tanta fome.
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Jul 12th 2009 at 11:23 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 11:23 pm EDT)
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Jul 12th 2009 at 11:33 pm EDT (Updated Jul 12th 2009 at 11:33 pm EDT)
Public Option for a Virginia woman:
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MS patient: Government-run health care system would help patients
By Veronica Chufo
July 13, 2009
Had you asked Teresa Crowson her thoughts about a government-run health care plan three years ago, she probably would've been skeptical.
That was before she was called "clinically probable" for having multiple sclerosis
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Marie from Fort Myers, FL
Jul 13th 2009 at 5:50 am EDT (Updated Jul 13th 2009 at 5:50 am EDT)
I'm traveling all day today & yesterday so not really keep up, but I did want to alert you to the Sky News video interview of President Obama.
Link
-- a little ways down the center column
BTW, I have a nice photo gallery of the Obamas' overseas trip. Click on the navigation bar.
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VA . Greatgran 'Grab A Mop' for President Obama
Jul 13th 2009 at 6:35 am EDT (Updated Jul 13th 2009 at 6:35 am EDT)
Good Morning Marie,
Thank you for all the wonderful Stuff you give us
from Reality Chex.Have a great day.
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Jul 13th 2009 at 6:31 am EDT (Updated Jul 13th 2009 at 6:31 am EDT)
As Rachel Maddow says, "Talk me down" - Over the past few weeks I've been hearing a repettive rumble from Not the FAR radical right - but just the regular right -
And last night at a civilized dinner party while discussing gun control the following explanation came out - yet again -
"Look at Germany before Hitler came to power" -
This is at least the 10th time I've heard this.
The logic within the gun control conversation simultaneously going on - was that
our forefathers gave us the second amendment to protect the citizens - so they will be armed
against the Government.
Seriously.
This is being spawned from the government controlled programs that began when BUSH was in the White House - and yet that's being forgotten -
They're making it appear that Obama took over, the economy went down the tubes, and public entitlement with no-work required was inflicted upon the populace. Oh yeah - let's not forget that we're opening our borders to every illegal immigrant on the planet.
Has this been created from a fear that white males will be seen as Pariahs - segregated and ostrasized? What is this? Where is this "Hitler" rhetoric being spawned from?
I don't listen to Fox, Limbaugh - I'm a CSPAN/CNN/NPR type of gal.
So - talk me down folks - I understand sniping - but this is becoming dark and sinister.
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Jul 13th 2009 at 6:48 am EDT (Updated Jul 13th 2009 at 6:48 am EDT)
Whenever I hear people start saying goofy things like that I ask them where they are getting their information. Inevitably the answer I get goes something like this: "uh, I think I heard it on the news," and I would ask which news. Then they really start hemming and hawing before they tell me, Faux, O'Reilly or Glenn Beck.
I then go on to explain to them WHO actually owns the media and WHY they really can't believe anything they hear from these outlets.
Or I ask them to go into detail about their wild pronouncements and usually they can't go beyond the talking points. Come to think of it, it's a lot like our under the bridge visitors right here on this site. Utter some talking point and then don't respond when someone calls them on it or they start to argue a totally different point which is your indication that they're full of doo doo.
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NY Woman for Obama
Jul 13th 2009 at 7:04 am EDT (Updated Jul 13th 2009 at 7:04 am EDT)
Thanks Desert Dove Dan -
I try to NEVER post negative stuff on our site, but this is coming up and out of Long Island of all places - not in the backwoods of Texas or Pennsylvania - from well heeled, college educated hard working, income earning citizens who don't have trouble getting a driver's license.
That's what is disturbing.
And you're right - we have TWO medias going on in the country right now - and I include our exaggerated left along with the right. They both tend to be out of line - but in different ways.
I feel like I'm hearing "The South Will Rise Again" - again. Maybe it's the dying breath of something that really needs to go away.
I respect differences of opinion and how the country should be run - I really do. I support the fact that when you're out in the middle of Idaho you should be able to have a shotgun to ward off coyotes who eat your livestock or rattlesnakes that will kill your toddler. But this smells different.
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Jul 13th 2009 at 7:28 am EDT (Updated Jul 13th 2009 at 7:28 am EDT)
Doo doo is doo doo and I've even had to have this conversation with my own father. Admittedly it's not easy, but I had to tell him how completely ignorant and foolish he sounds when he repeats this kind of stuff. Education has nothing to do with it. It is called mind control and the corporate media are masters of it.
So I ask again, if your friends are all college educated, WHERE are they getting their information? From other like-minded people? My wife's family are all from New York but they live in Arizona now. Most are college educated yet when it comes to politics or Obama, they do nothing but repeat what they hear on Faux.
Do any of your friends own guns? Ask them if they've had their guns taken away yet? Have any of them had the government come to their house to take their property? Educated or not, this is nothing but fear tactics and I just tell people that and ask them if they want to live in fear for the rest of their lives.
I have been personally affected by the Patriot Act, in a big negative way no less, and yet I still don't fear the government OR own any guns. For all the Republicans' bluster they sure seem like scaredy cats to me.
Maybe I'm missing your point but this just sounds like week-kneed BS to me.
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VA . Greatgran 'Grab A Mop' for President Obama
Jul 13th 2009 at 7:19 am EDT (Updated Jul 13th 2009 at 7:19 am EDT)
NYWOMAN,Good Morning,
Im here to set up the Buffet after around 800 posts,so nutshell "Talk Me Down".
Yes it's dark and sinister and has always been there.
Anxiety,a mental state,marked by tension or dread.
It's FEAR.Our president expected it to show itself
and it is.We must be prepared on that front as
well,spreading truth and a calm demeaner.It's not
going to be easy,politics aside,the ugly head of
bigotry floats easily toward our President,because
he's not familiar so he must be the source of our
troubles.
I am excited today,the Prez. is in the house.
The usual Buffet is set up,you know where,and
what...so dig in..Do I see Gosal coming down the
road apiece?
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"CZARINA" MARILYN from CRYSTAL BEACH, FLORIDA aka GODDESS OF SMILES and LAUGHTER
Jul 13th 2009 at 7:38 am EDT (Updated Jul 13th 2009 at 7:38 am EDT)
I'm here! I'm here!
Morning Big Sis!
My God! How much food to do have to put out today for 800 posts?
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Jul 13th 2009 at 6:54 am EDT (Updated Jul 13th 2009 at 6:54 am EDT)
...but how about a little "wake up" music?
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Dream A Little Dream (performed by French harmonica impresario, Christelle Berthon)
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Jul 13th 2009 at 7:05 am EDT (Updated Jul 13th 2009 at 7:05 am EDT)
And here's a little "mood music" with visuals:
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Aurora Arizona Lunacumulus Serenity
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VA . Greatgran 'Grab A Mop' for President Obama
Jul 13th 2009 at 7:45 am EDT (Updated Jul 13th 2009 at 7:45 am EDT)
Good Morning DD DAN..Never too early for Aurora(me).I think that's been approved.
"Dream a Little Dream of Me".I sang it all the
way thru.If you know the lyrics then you know why
it's this old married couple's favorite song and
motto.Thanks again and have a big helping of oatmeal and blueberries.
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Lydia from Durham, NC
Jul 13th 2009 at 7:28 am EDT (Updated Jul 13th 2009 at 7:28 am EDT)
Good Morning Obama Family!
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Jul 13th 2009 at 7:34 am EDT (Updated Jul 13th 2009 at 7:34 am EDT)
Chris please we need a new thread here
Help! we know you are busy now, but we do need you help, Please give us a new thread.
o'family kim
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Jul 13th 2009 at 7:35 am EDT (Updated Jul 13th 2009 at 7:35 am EDT)
"Self, don't get caught up in the SCOTUS circus this week. It's nothing but drama & theater. Stay focused on health care reform."
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VA . Greatgran 'Grab A Mop' for President Obama
Jul 13th 2009 at 8:04 am EDT (Updated Jul 13th 2009 at 8:04 am EDT)
Dan,Last night,after I signed off here,I sent letters to the editors re: Health Care and
on Judge Sotomayor,local and National.I felt good,
like I slapped some intruder ,cross-eyed.
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Jul 13th 2009 at 8:11 am EDT (Updated Jul 13th 2009 at 8:11 am EDT)
Good job. Do you have an endless supply of energy or what? I know, it must be all the antioxidants from the blueberries, right? You go girl!
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"CZARINA" MARILYN from CRYSTAL BEACH, FLORIDA aka GODDESS OF SMILES and LAUGHTER
Jul 13th 2009 at 8:15 am EDT (Updated Jul 13th 2009 at 8:15 am EDT)
Dan,
It's the belly dancing!
You'll have to the full explanation directly from Va GG! If she's willing to share! LOL!!
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Jul 13th 2009 at 7:35 am EDT (Updated Jul 13th 2009 at 7:35 am EDT)
Public Option :
From: Stephanie Taylor, BoldProgressives.org [mailto:info@boldprogressives. org]
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 8:02 AM
To:
Subject: VOTE: Who should we target?
,
I have great, great news.
In the last 72 hours, two senators named in our TV ad -- Blanche Lincoln (D-AR) and Kay Hagan (D-NC) -- announced support for the public option!
The big lesson? Pressure works. TV ads work. Now it's our job to keep the momentum high. So we'll be running versions of our hard-hitting ad in targeted states -- pressuring individual Senate Democrats back home where it hurts most. We just need you to help us decide where.
Click here to cast your vote!
Link
On the voting page, you'll see profiles of eight senators -- including how much money they've taken from the health and insurance interests, whether they sit on important committees, and their statements on the public option.
Each version of the ad will feature the names of a senator's local constituents who "signed" our ad -- representing the 76% of Americans who demand a public option. It will also display the senator's big contributors.
e know that these ads are working. Not only have our ads been featured in the New York Times and Washington Post (which said we're rattling Democratic senators), but MoveOn and Blue America have been running ads in Sen. Hagan and Sen. Lincoln's home states. And the result? They are coming around. Two down, eight to go.
Click here to read about each senator, and cast your vote.
Link
Thank you for being a bold progressive.
Stephanie & the PCCC team
Aaron, Adam, Ashleigh, Evan, Forrest, Max, Michael, Rebecca, and Sahar
P.S. The New York Times story on our ads is here. Talking Points Memo and Hullabaloo have also written some great posts on how progressive TV ads played a hand in Sen. Lincoln's and Sen. Hagan's changes of heart.
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Jul 13th 2009 at 7:49 am EDT (Updated Jul 13th 2009 at 7:49 am EDT)
Rich, I got the same email. I was sorry to hear that my Senator Bill Nelson from Florida was not on the list. He is already tired of hearing from my family. We need more to call and write.
I am leaving for DC tomorrow. I have a letter to drop off at his DC office already typed up.
When I return I will be meeting with my new OFA organizer. I turned in hundred signed pledges to him and he asked if I did it in a group or am I a one woman show. I said the latter. He asked me to be a leader here in Florida. I am excited about the opportunity.
I am checking with my Niece about the SCOTUS nom. I need to know more about her before I make an informed decision. We already have on the court, justices that think privacy is not important. We have lost so much over the last 9 years, it will be almost impossible to get it back.
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"CZARINA" MARILYN from CRYSTAL BEACH, FLORIDA aka GODDESS OF SMILES and LAUGHTER
Jul 13th 2009 at 8:01 am EDT (Updated Jul 13th 2009 at 8:01 am EDT)
Hi Sue, fellow Floridian!
Thanks for the update.
I'll be on it today! I just bet Sen Nelson's office is going to want to hear from me "again"! Smirk! Smirk!
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VA . Greatgran 'Grab A Mop' for President Obama
Jul 13th 2009 at 8:10 am EDT (Updated Jul 13th 2009 at 8:10 am EDT)
Morning Sue,Rich...Got it and voted in the wee hrs.That's a powerful one.
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Jul 13th 2009 at 8:25 am EDT (Updated Jul 13th 2009 at 8:25 am EDT)
Thanks sue, Marilyn and VA Greatgran.
'Fierce urgency of now'
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Czarina sue"yes we did"*this is my 3rd account* proud member of "Global Zero"
Jul 13th 2009 at 9:43 am EDT (Updated Jul 13th 2009 at 9:43 am EDT)
I forgot to post the link to my Niece.
I am one proud Aunt
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Jul 13th 2009 at 7:36 am EDT (Updated Jul 13th 2009 at 7:36 am EDT)
FLORIDA in the HOUSE!
Good Morning O Family!
THE WHITEBOARD
Back Home: Obama focuses on domestic priorities.
He meets with labor leaders, who are among the groups increasingly concerned that Obama's health care reform will not do enough to keep down costs - and they will push POTUS for more aggressive action.