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Evolving Clinton HRC Criteria for Winning the Dem Nomination

By Global Citizen Linda - Apr 6th, 2008 at 2:51 pm EDT

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I feel obliged to comment on the evolving HRC Criteria for Winning the Dem Nomination

According to the latest line from HRC and her supporters becoming the Dem nominee now has to be the electoral college and popular vote

HRC's supporters continue to amaze me by how they keep grasping at different criteria for the nomination once they are loosing one argument.

Before Obama won the younger voters in huge numbers, the youth and 30's did not matter but now HRC is aggressively courting colleges and younger voters with a college tour

When HRC still hoped to win as the inevitable establishment candidate, all the primaries and caucuses mattered in all states. When HRC lost in some states, then of course caucuses and "small" "red" states do not matter!!!

When HRC did not need FL and MI to count, then these primaries did not matter but now that the C-Team needs the results in FL andd MI of course it is voter dis-enfrachisement.

HRC had the popular vote then this was the criteria, followed by superdelegates who had a right to be independent in their decision.
Recently, the trend of endorsements shows superdelegates lining up for Obama so now this criteria is no longer important

What else could the incredible minds of the HRC come up with now? The electoral college of course Of course now it must be time for the electoral college to count because we are already using the rules of the general election.

Amazing evolution of criteria and changing rules in the middle of the game.

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By MB Apr 6th 2008 at 3:16 pm EDT

Also I just saw on CNN a clip from Thursday in which Hillary Clinton said there's no such thing as a "pledged delegate." In other words, she's implying that Obama's pledged delegates couldvote for her. Say what? Again, she's changing the goalposts during the game for her own gain.

While it may be technically true that you can't force a pledged delegate to vote as pledged, that certainly is the intended outcome (except for in Senator Clinton's mind).

With the Clintons, as Carl Berenstein has said, you have to "read the fine print."

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By Global Citizen Linda Apr 6th 2008 at 4:09 pm EDT

The length to which the C-Team will go to steal this nomination is amazing!

At least this election cycle has shown us what the Clintons are really about

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By Taube Apr 6th 2008 at 9:00 pm EDT

Maybe the Electoral College theory is code for the Jewish vote. The TUCC association with Farrakhan has really hurt Obama with Jewish voters. Birdalone is a Jewish voter in New York, and saw NYC Congressman Eliot Engel and Anthony Weiner campaign with Mrs. Clinton in Ohio. I am not a conspiracy theorist, but no one can win New York without the Jewish vote, 13% of all voters. FL, CA, PA, NJ, MI, OH, MA, and CT also have enough Jewish voters to swing a close election. Gov. Rendell is Jewish. Only one (Feingold, WI) of the twelve Jewish Democratic U.S. Senators have endorsed Obama.

I would think the Clintons are also using individually posted material from this website in their campaign to keep the Jewish vote and these Jewish super-delegates. A few posts have greatly offended me, but I know that those people are using this website to further their own personal agendas because they surely don't care about getting Senator Obama elected President.

And then there are the other Jewish super-delegates. excerpt from an email from Newsmax.com:
"Jewish (Super) Delegates Could Be Key in Democratic Race

A disproportionately large number of Democratic superdelegates are Jewish, and they could prove crucial in deciding whether Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama wins the party’s nomination.

Thus far 36 Jewish superdelegates have declared for Clinton, while Obama has 12 Jewish superdelegates. But 26 Jewish superdelegates are among those who are still undeclared.

“If the Democratic presidential primary comes down to a photo finish, these Jewish insiders could play an outsized role in anointing a nominee at the party’s August convention,” according to the Forward, a Jewish publication that has conducted a new survey of Jewish superdelegates.

...One of those chairs, Massachusetts-based activist Steve Grossman, is now a Clinton fundraiser. And with Obama ahead of Hillary in pledged delegates and the popular vote, Grossman has sent out an open letter to DNC members urging them not to fall in behind Obama until all state contests are concluded.

Grossman told the Forward that if the result from the disputed Florida primary is counted, and Hillary does well in upcoming primaries, the overall results would be inconclusive and it would be the responsibility of superdelegates to vote their conscience.

The Forward also notes that Hillary has personally been doing some “heavy arm-twisting” in an effort to secure Jewish superdelegates."

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By Global Citizen Linda Apr 7th 2008 at 2:06 am EDT

I guess we will have to stay tuned and see how far people of the Jewish faith are willing to get manipulated once again.

If superdelagates give HRC the nomination, many black people will never vote for the Dems in a generation. There is already a call to "black-ou" the vote in Nov if the nomination is stolen by the SD

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