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Barack on Good Morning America
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Gray Brooks
- Jan 7th, 2008 at 11:30 am EST
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Diane Sawyer interviewed Barack on the campaign trail in New Hampshire yesterday. Here it is from Good Morning America today:
Update: Here's part 2 of the interview.
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Theresa in Maine
Jan 7th 2008 at 11:43 am EST
Would someone kindly tell me WHY Hillary's name is still on the MI primary ballot?
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Laura Hubka ~From Iowa Where It Started and Will Continue~~~
Jan 7th 2008 at 11:44 am EST
Because she did not take it off. they have to volunteer to take it off. She did not.
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Laura Hubka ~From Iowa Where It Started and Will Continue~~~
Jan 7th 2008 at 11:46 am EST
I think Kuchinich is on there too.
But WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE!
Tell the Michigan people to vote "non-Committed" and she will not get all the delegates!
That is a way to make a statement.
and they can do it!
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DianaKay
Jan 7th 2008 at 11:49 am EST
From the Detroit Free Press, Jan. 5th:
"Michigan voters getting absentee ballots for the state's Jan. 15 presidential primary have four Democratic choices -- Hillary Clinton, Dennis Kucinich, Chris Dodd (who dropped out of the race Thursday) and Mike Gravel."
Of course, the ballots were printed long enough ago that no one knew who would drop out of the race. I imagine some voters will basically forfeit their votes by being unaware of who's in and who's out.
For more detail:
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Leila
Jan 7th 2008 at 11:52 am EST
My understanding is that Michigan & Florida delegates will NOT be counted.
The only "threat" is that the media would spin it as a Hillary win, even though she didn't take her name off the ballot when she was supposed to, and even though it wouldn't be counted.
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DianaKay
Jan 7th 2008 at 11:57 am EST
Yes, as of right now those delegates are not going to be counted. However, the final decision about whether or not to seat those delegates is up to the nominee:
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So it could matter. And as you said, it already does matter in terms of media spin and how that affects voters in other places.
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jstar
Jan 7th 2008 at 12:05 pm EST
yeah, but the point is that that person will already be the nominee when they decide. So it's a moot point.
global warming |
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Harsh Reality for crazy Republicans: Obama
Jan 7th 2008 at 1:24 pm EST
have been studying weather all my life and i see changes coming recently that are crazy.
this spring, trees had much more leaves on them, some trees in washington dc came out in spring.
watch global weather maps and see what i mean, i wish i could make a web site with them running (someone help me out)
storms are larger now, and spin like hurricanes much more often. they carry hot air from the equator to the north pole much faster. Greenland is in the direct line of sight of these large waves of warm air going north. thats why greenland went up 8 dregrees already.
the scientists said the north pole would not melt for 50 years. then last week they said 5 years. they are wrong and will always be wrong. the hot air going north will make the ice melt in 2 years. greenland will melt fast as well and what will that do? It may melt in 5-10 years not 100 years.
imaging all that fresh water going into the oceans. all the storms forming and becoming larger. weather people not warning us of what happened in california in summer (with heat and fire) and in this weekend 1-6-08 when mega storms hit California. they were hitting alaska and western canada for 2 weeks, why did not anyone warn them in california? I saw it , why didnt the people on the weather channel? Government is lieing to the people and mis informing them.
I hope barack will listen to me on this and get some sort of edge against the others because he knows more.
you will see super heated air coming into NH tommorrow, where is it going next? to greenland and it will melt snow and ice there like last year in january i guess and no one will care.
we need to stop emitting carbon gas, if you cant breathe it don't blow it out into the atmosphere is my motto. barack needs to set up massive wind and solar farms that are government owned to provide free energy to the people. barack needs to convert all cars to run on water and hydrogen from water. he can do this easily in 1 year by making this a war effort , a war against climate change.
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Mr. Bill
Jan 7th 2008 at 3:21 pm EST
I just had lunch with a friend who is unconvinced that global warming is caused by man. I said, "what difference does it make?"
Can we all agree that destroying the planet and polluting the air and poisoning the water is not a good idea. We can all agree that a clean earth is better than a filthy one.
He did agree with that. That's what we have to find. Common ground - common sense.
Barack can lead the world to do it.
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jstar
Jan 7th 2008 at 12:06 pm EST
if Barack wins, then he will choose not to count those delegates and it will all be fine.
POLITICAL EARTHQUAKE |
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Jan 7th 2008 at 12:56 pm EST
RASMUSSEN: OBAMA HAS TRIGGERED A POLITICAL HEARTHQUAKE!!!
Clinton’s lead in the national polls is also crumbling. Monday’s update of the Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll shows her advantage shrinking to its lowest level since the very first Presidential debate took place this season, more than eight months ago.
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Jan3: Clinton 41%, Obama 24%
Jan7: Clinton 33%, Obama 29%
KEEP IT UP!!! DONATE!!!
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kramer1
Jan 7th 2008 at 2:11 pm EST
Why would Barack not count the Florida delegates? As a Floridian, I want to know that my vote matters.
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Kerri from PA
Jan 7th 2008 at 2:44 pm EST
I don't understand it either - why punish the PEOPLE because of a few who decided to try to bend the rules! It's not the people of Florida's fault!
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Will Graves
Jan 7th 2008 at 3:00 pm EST
I do not understand what you mean when you ask, "Why would Barack not count the Florida delegates?"
The DNC stripped Florida of its delegates because we refused to move our election back to February 5th or later. The issue has nothing to do with Barack or any of the other Democratic candidates: it has to do with the DNC and the Republican-controlled Florida legislature, who moved our primary up to January 29th.
Do not blame Barack.
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Eric from Cambodia
Jan 7th 2008 at 5:10 pm EST
Is there a chance the Democratic Party of Florida could have the State Governor move back the Democratic primary to Feb 5th?
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Susi
Jan 7th 2008 at 8:30 pm EST
As a native Californian and now new Florida resident it is quite disheartening that the Florida delegates votes won't count.
For the first time since high school I wanted to become a delegate and now to find out even if I was chosen my vote won't count?
Damn.
Well, that means then that Florida voters will have to work that much harder to embrace and vote the change and hope that Senator Obama is offering us.
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marytnurse, supporting Barack Obama until I see his library built on donations from We The People
Jan 7th 2008 at 11:59 am EST
glad to see y'all are on my mission!!!
Eventually, all the delegates will be seated, per agreements with the candidates, but for now they will not be;
We need to find a way to get this to MI students, who can help spread the word. Only thing is, I have no MI students in my address book....
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Carol-STL-MO
Jan 7th 2008 at 11:47 pm EST
Marytnurse,
Possibly by going to the Homepage here, under "People" SFBO (think that also would bring you to "state')
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Donna Richardson
Jan 7th 2008 at 2:14 pm EST
HI Everyone!!! Please take my advice...don't worry about Michigan or Florida. Obama is going to have overwhelming delegate support for the convention. Michigan and Florida won't matter. There will not be a floor fight to seat these delegates because...hey who cares...they won't make a difference. I know that Our Guy will sweep this country and that the convention will simply be a forum for the expression of the country's support for Obama!
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Susi
Jan 7th 2008 at 8:32 pm EST
So as a new Florida resident---originally from the electorally important state of California....can someone please explain why the Florida delegate votes won't count?
I know its a closed primary state...but how can this be....or is it that Florida is only important when it's 100% sure a Republican will win?
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DTownDave22
Jan 7th 2008 at 6:19 pm EST
Leila, I myself can not confirm that, nor have I heard of any news source confirm that, but I heard that it is a possibility.
Do you mind me asking what source said that FOR SURE, the MI and FL ballot will be thrown out?
My personal feeling is that it won't be thrown out, because the race is simply too tight to throw a state away and it would create very negative coverage for the party. Any sure word as of now might also swing democrats to vote republican. However, if Barack loses in N.H. tomorrow,
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Jan 7th 2008 at 12:37 pm EST
thats rightly said "SHE DID NOT TAKE IT OFF"
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Jan 7th 2008 at 2:07 pm EST
thats rightly said "SHE DID NOT TAKE IT OFF"
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Joe in Vermont
Jan 7th 2008 at 11:46 am EST
Second you Laura. Tried to pull a fast one and said she didn't want to "alienate" Michigan voters. This was back when the "Coronation" was going full steam.
I'm hoping that we can get the word out to our Michigan supporters to mark "Uncommitted" on the ballot. The whole thing is a non-event.
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Dan from Michigan
Jan 7th 2008 at 12:33 pm EST
I'm an independent from Michigan and, as any Michigander is able to vote on either side of the ballot (Michigan voter registration does not include party affiliation), I am currently planning on voting "Not Committed," as I support Obama's candidacy.
However, what has been suggested to Michigan Democrats has been, since their ballots essentially don't count for actual delegates, to vote for a Republican with a small chance of winning in the general election. I see that as pointless myself (since the parties just 'unanimously' nominate the overall winner anyway), but that's probably what more Democrats are going to do rather than casting a meaningless vote for Clinton, even if they support her.
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Ilya
Jan 7th 2008 at 1:06 pm EST
Sounds like a good idea, I hope that others will do the same. Hillary does not deserve to win a single state, even if the votes won't count.
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ckundecided
Jan 7th 2008 at 2:55 pm EST
I too live in Michigan and will be voting 'uncommited' in the primary. Was a good article on it in Sunday's paper and I think Mitch Albom's column addressed it also. I think our lousy Democratic Governor Granholm cut a back door deal with Hillary to hand her the State. I think Granholm sees herself as a rising star and wants a job in the next Democratic administration since she's term limited out. I'm betting she wants a Healthcare job. After all, one of her husband, the consultant's biggest clients was Blue Cross. Funny how she came out in support of Hillary. My dad thinks that our former Governor Blanchard cut a deal with her to enter the primary prior to her first term and take votes from Bonior so she'd get the nomination.
Heard on NPR that if the nomination doesn't get decided then it goes to the delegates and Clinton will probably find a way to seat them. Saw a delegate count total somewhere and Hillary despite her 3rd place finish in Iowa has more delegates than Obama or Edwards from there. Haven't seen that one on CNN, MSNBC or any other station and hope I can find where it was.
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Theresa in Maine
Jan 7th 2008 at 11:55 am EST
Thanks, Laurie
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Theresa in Maine
Jan 7th 2008 at 11:55 am EST
Opps, sorry. Thanks LAURA
Bi-Partanship and the 2008 Elections |
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Li Williams
Jan 7th 2008 at 12:52 pm EST
Now here is what hope and inspiration does: Right now on C-Span is a forum called Bi-Partisanship and the 2008 Election. Barack Obama is the pulse of change it is amazing. The momentum has started for real change with this candidate.
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daydreamer
Jan 7th 2008 at 1:32 pm EST
interesting article about the situation in Michigan
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Chili Dogg
Jan 7th 2008 at 2:52 pm EST
If I am a registered independent in Massachusetts, can I vote in the Democratic primary? The Massachusetts Secretary of State's website is brutal. I saw on a wikipedia article that it's closed, but everyone I talk to around here says you just tell them when you walk in which primary you want to vote in. Anyone have better info than this?
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Sharon H.
Jan 7th 2008 at 4:08 pm EST
Yes!! If you are already registered just request a Dem ballot when you go to vote. I think the deadline to register is Jan. 14th in MA.
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Chili Dogg
Jan 7th 2008 at 8:08 pm EST
I hope you are right Sharon. I just got the bogus email about Barack being a Muslim intent on destryong the US from within. Where do I report these bozos? I'm so sick of all this racist ignorant nonsense.
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DTownDave22
Jan 7th 2008 at 3:57 pm EST
Theresa,
From my understanding from what a past poli sci teacher told me in an email correspondence many months ago--approximately mid-September to mid October; it was because, even though Michigan violated the National Democratic Party's rule, of not having its primary moved up to Jan. 15, and the other candidates were simply following the rules, Bill Clinton was and is very popular in Michigan and Hillary Clinton is, by virtue of her being the first lady and still remaining in the political spotlight as a senator in N.Y. I don't claim to know all the intricacies of political workings. How is she still even on? I think it may have just a little something to do with Jennifer Grahnholm being the governor of MI. I also believe she endorses Hillary--although don't quote me on that one.
See for yourself as far as funding is considered, here --Click on Michigan(
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Money doesn't mean everything, but it certainly speaks for a lot.
Note, that MI is traditionally a blue state, and after Mitt Romney (father is a former governor of MI) and John McCain (a more liberal conservative), Hillary Clinton is third in funding raised in Michigan. Fortunately, Barack is in fourth, but we'll see how funding looks after the new campaign information is released.
I also encourage those of you who support Obama to check the information on his donations. I am personally on a fence right now as to who I should vote for. I do believe Barack Obama takes what many of his supporters would probably consider "dirty money", but I think we are at a point right now in our political structure where we can not expect miracles to occur just out of thin air, in regards to political funding. There are other candidates out there who, according to their statements AND according to the site I listed above, do not take money from big businesses. Do some reasearch. I know it can be tedious, but your country needs you to take personal responsibility. It's quite interesting to compare and contrast candidate's origin and type of funding. It sure makes this process much more transparent, at the least.
I say this, because Barack seemed to sidestep the question about lobbyists in the GMA interview and I believe his campaign has been a bit misleading in terms of lobbyists are concerned.
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DianaKay
Jan 7th 2008 at 11:45 am EST
I really liked how he didn't let Diane draw him into saying "We're going to win" at the beginning of the interview. He came across as confident but not cocky; he didn't take the win for granted, and I think that's important.
As always, I enjoyed watching him speak!
GO OBAMA!!
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Mid America Mom
Jan 7th 2008 at 11:49 am EST
Agreed.
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Arshad Hussain
Jan 7th 2008 at 11:58 am EST
He could take the opportunity to address those attacks:
1) He opposed the war from the beginning. He concluded it was a wrong war. But since poor decision has already been made, more than 150,000 US soldiers are on the ground in Iraq, he had an obligation to support the troop until US worked with Iraq to find a political solution and bring some normalcy. So he is against the war but he has an obligation to support the troops. The troops did not make the decision to go there, Bush did.
2) He never said he will never talk to anyone involving lobbying. The fact is Obama socialized with lobbyist, played basketball or poker in IL but never gave them any favor. He said he won't allow any lobbyist working in his administration regulating the industry he used to lobby before or someone worked in his white house can not lobby the government during the remaining term of his Presidency. He also said, he never accept money from them. But that does not mean no one involved in state lobbying can be involved in his campaign.
3) Hillary voted for Patriot act when Obama was still not in Senate. He voted a "refined" or "updated" vesrion of it while noting on his vote that he still wants Senate to work more to reduce the provisions that impact civil liberties.
He could and should answer them in a direct way without attacking Hillary. Otherwise the false charges will start sinking in. Also he need to spend 5 minutes to provide a high level policy details in his stump. It should be 60% policies (reality)+40% hope (inspiration). Policies are important and no substitute for Hope. Only HOPE is not enough.
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Reggie; Who Just Signed Up For An 8 Year Tour Of "O"-Duty!!!
Jan 7th 2008 at 12:48 pm EST
Chetori Arshad, I must say I agree with you I to believe that although Obama is running a wonderful campaign that there is room to be more detailed, especially in such situations. There were clear opportunities to clarify his position and thereby the minipulation of the facts by Hillary that weren't taken advantage of.
I do not believe this will be a problem in N.H. but it could become one going forward if not confronted not agressively but certainly directly.
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Ashley from Grand Prairie, TX
Jan 7th 2008 at 1:32 pm EST
I was a little disappointed that he didnt elaborate more on those questions and accusations. i expected a more direct answer from him.
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Andy
Jan 7th 2008 at 2:52 pm EST
This interview did not seem as if it were un-edited...perhaps he did get more detailed, however we will never know...one of the many problems with mass media! However he did have an opportunity to rebute some of these attacks...and others...in the debate on Saturday, I'm a bit dissapointed that he did not seize that moment.
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Mr. Bill
Jan 7th 2008 at 3:24 pm EST
I bet it was edited. They all are to some degree. He may very well have explained his votes and reasoning. But I agree, I wish it would've been clearer to viewers.
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Kristian "I Ain't Afraid of No GOPs" Idol
Jan 7th 2008 at 10:50 pm EST
Yes, it was edited.
There were at least two answers where his vocal tone sounded like he had more to say, but the sound cut off and they cut to Sawyer asking another question.
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DTownDave22
Jan 8th 2008 at 12:27 am EST
Me, too. He's in the middle of a huge race. He's not going to risk being scrutinized in the media. He gave a safer answer, but not one that revealed a great deal.
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Obama for President
Jan 7th 2008 at 12:53 pm EST
I agree with your comments about addressing those false accusation as not addressing them can be construed as admission. As a front runner, HRC will continue this attacks if not leveled and press loves controversy. May be Obama campaign should put out a statement.
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Rosalind
Jan 7th 2008 at 2:33 pm EST
I believe when it is needed he will; there is no need for him to make a public statement. Everyone knows Hillary is desperate and will say or do anything that she can; that where his integrity stands up for him. He doesn't need to be on the defense for everything she does and if he wins NH her creditability will definitely go out the window. Obama is a smart guy and he didn't get that way 10 months ago; trust him.
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Ali Alavi
Jan 7th 2008 at 2:08 pm EST
My feeling is, that is what they want, to get Barack off his message and get him to get in to detailed arguments, so that people just tune out. I think it is better for Barack to stay on his message, unless someone in a townhall asks him a specific question.
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Jan 7th 2008 at 1:08 pm EST
His demeanor on camera is terrific in spite of insipid questions.
He is still far to kind to his opponents; he should have nailed the one about lobbyist money and Hillary.
Amazing: Diane Sawyer posing as a journalist; Asking insightful questions like "did you call oprah back?"...
Why doesn't someone ask the obvious:
Hillary brags about her 35 years of public service How come no one asks her "So,just what is the list of major accomplishments in those 35 years"...
Answer:
1. I blew it on Health Care
2. I ignored the genocide in Ruwanda
3. I voted for a war no one needed and cost 3 trillion dollars
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rich
Jan 7th 2008 at 11:48 am EST
Gray -
Thanks for providing this blog entry and it's GMA link.
Hillary Clinton’s national polling lead has collapsed. |
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Jan 7th 2008 at 11:48 am EST
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday shows that Hillary Clinton’s national polling lead has collapsed. Before the Iowa caucuses, Clinton held a seventeen-point lead over Barack Obama. Today, that lead is down to
four percentage points
in a survey with a four-point margin of sampling error.
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Theresa in Maine
Jan 7th 2008 at 12:06 pm EST
OH... MY...GOD!
Thank you thank you thank you
BREAKING NEWS=Rumors grow of HRC dropping out of race |
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Luis
Jan 7th 2008 at 11:49 am EST
Drudge has a breaking news story about rumors of HRC dropping out of the race.Read it at link:
TALK OF HILLARY EXIT ENGULFS CAMPAIGNS
Mon Jan 07 2008 09:46:28 ET
Facing a double-digit defeat in New Hampshire, a sudden collapse in national polls and an expected fund-raising drought, Senator Hillary Clinton is preparing for a tough decision: Does she get out of the race? And when?!
"She can't take multiple double-digit losses in New Hampshire, South Carolina and Nevada," laments one top campaign insider to the DRUDGE REPORT. "If she gets too badly embarrassed, it will really harm her. She doesn't want the Clinton brand to be damaged with back-to-back-to-back defeats."
Meanwhile, Democrat hopeful John Edwards has confided to senior staff that he is staying in the race because Hillary "could soon be out."
"Her money is going to dry up," Edwards confided, a top source said Monday morning.
MORE
Key players in Clinton's inner circle are said to be split. James Carville is urging her to fight it out through at least February and Super Tuesday, where she has a shot at thwarting Barack Obama in a big state.
"She did not work this hard to get out after one state! All this talk is nonsense," said one top adviser.
But others close to the former first lady now see no possible road to victory, sources claim.
Developing...
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OBAMA 08
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Lorraine
Jan 7th 2008 at 12:02 pm EST
DO NOT BELIEVE THIS STORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm begging you NOT TO BELIEVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Clinton campaign is NOT GIVING UP!!!!!!!!
DO NOT BELIEVE IT FOR ONE MINUTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hollie
Jan 7th 2008 at 12:26 pm EST
No one should ever believe anything if it's only been reported on Drudge, anyway.
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latinObama
Jan 7th 2008 at 12:30 pm EST
No to beleive that, sure... BUT it would make sense if she quit. Just watch this video from de Washington post: Fired up and ready to bore (hillary camp):
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it is fun, and true.
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Reggie; Who Just Signed Up For An 8 Year Tour Of "O"-Duty!!!
Jan 7th 2008 at 12:59 pm EST
hahahaha Thats so funny Jesus and as you say soooo true!!!
You guys need to watch this.
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Yellow Jacket for Obama
Jan 7th 2008 at 3:15 pm EST
LOL! go to Jesus' link! It's amazing. I can't believe...3 hours of Q&A??? Was she trying to make up for Iowa? Can someone tell her it doesn't work like that. wow.
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Carolyn from Cape Cod
Jan 7th 2008 at 12:31 pm EST
I doubt that Edwards said that because it makes so little sense. "Hilary will be out of money." Sure, and where is his money going to come from? He has taken federal funds so what he can spend is already restricted.
He would have to assume that the Clinton supporters can't wait to switch to him as a second choice. There is no evidence of that. My relatives who supported Clinton have now switched to Obama.
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Joe in Vermont
Jan 7th 2008 at 12:43 pm EST
Strongly second you! It's not going to happen. They drag her screaming from the podium at the DNC first. Baloney!
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Theresa LV
Jan 7th 2008 at 3:10 pm EST
I'm a little (actually very) leary of the DNC. I can picture them playing dirty politics to keep her in and make her the nominee. They need the status quo to remain so their pockets can stay lined with gold.
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Bien-Aime
Jan 7th 2008 at 3:24 pm EST
I think after tomorrow or possibly SC Clinton will drop out. I have predicted to my friends that she would be out by Super Tuesday. If she does not withdraw by then she will loose NY badly. I don't think she wants that. There was a video being played by ABC showing Clinton fighting back tears. To me it is a sign that she knows the end is inevitable. The goal of democrat is to capture the WH, we are at the point where the party insiders and Superdelegates are going to ask Clinton to suspend her campaign in order not to damage the chance of the Eventual Nominee. This will happen soon. I don't know if anyone remembers in the last three weeks before Iowa someone from the Clinton campaign warned her: Loose Iowa and you will loose the nomination.
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james mall
Jan 7th 2008 at 3:49 pm EST
i heard her near tears on a sound clip on npr this afternoon...my impressions was that it was another planted 'personal' questention and rehearsed response to appeal more human & everyman...
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Kara
Jan 7th 2008 at 8:43 pm EST
Sad to say, but I agree. The question & timing seemed especially designed to try to evoke sympathy given her poor position in the polls.
While I don't wish her distress, I think the tears were orchestrated & think the emotion had more to do with sadness about losing what she thinks is hers by right...namely, the Presidency. And maybe there's some frustration about the way she compromised herself & her professed values over & over to get ahead...only to be outdone by an honest man who sticks by his principles (who she is now trying to tear down).
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Kristian "I Ain't Afraid of No GOPs" Idol
Jan 7th 2008 at 11:24 pm EST
Absolutely correct.
The last question? A woman asking something "personal"? "How do you do it?"? An answer about not wanting the country to fall??
And all of us just happening to see a bit of "real" emotion from a candidate that is vilified for being a calculating technocrat, ONE DAY before the primary??
Look, I've worked on movie sets with over 1000 actors. I've directed actors. I KNOW acting.
This reminds me of William Hurt's character in "Broadcast News", only worse!
Shameless. SHAMELESS.
Here, let me quote David Geffen again. He's a billionaire music executive that used to be friends with Bill Clinton:
"Everybody in politics lies, but [the Clintons] do it with such ease, it's troubling."
I predict Obama by 16-18% in NH.
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Jan 7th 2008 at 11:26 pm EST
And no, she won't ever drop out.
We'll be pulling her grasping claws off the podium at the convention.
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Jan 7th 2008 at 12:03 pm EST
I just don't buy that. Hillary has felt for years she is the annointed nominee this go around and she has the organization and $$$ to stick around for awhile.
(Even if I wish she would just drop out :) )
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Jan 7th 2008 at 12:08 pm EST
I heard in a discussion yesterday (maybe MacGlaughlin group (sp?) that she has to be very, very careful at this point not to destroy her reputation as an effective and influential senator. They said that she will want to be considered as senate majority leader and it won't happen if she does too much to fracture the DNC - she's walking a dangerous tightrope right now. I think she'll be strongly encouraged to drop out to keep our base strong and to keep the trend for independents voting Democrat. It's going to be a wild ride!!!
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Jan 8th 2008 at 12:10 am EST
Think the HRC camp is forgetting about the early states & has their "claws" set for the FEB 5
(My reason for thinking that) --- Why else would THEY START opening offices in states like MO ( a FEB 5 state) just 2 or 3 weeks ago ??? Granted they only opened (1) in the state (in STL )...(Obama already had (2) opened in the state months ago).
Wonder if any of the bloggers from the other FEB 5 Primary states can comment on this question.
Is the same thing happening in YOUR state ??
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Jan 7th 2008 at 12:04 pm EST
On MSNBC, they just said that Clinton may be looking to Cali for a win; doesn't Cali love barack already? I know Hollywood/LA does.....?
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Arshad Hussain
Jan 7th 2008 at 12:07 pm EST
A lot will depend on CA, NY and IL. These states we are now have 20-40 delegates. CA alone have 370 delegates. NY and IL will cancel each other for being home states of Obama and Clinton but we really need to do well in CA. After NH, Obama should start going to Feb 5th states while campaigning in NV and SC.
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Jan 7th 2008 at 12:22 pm EST
Well- NY and IL are not winner take all.
Both candidates have filed to be on the ballot everywhere they need to be in those states.
New York info-
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Jan 7th 2008 at 3:53 pm EST
don't forget that HRC's from chicago & still has strong ties there...the only way to fight a dirty campaign is to squeeze the jugular...everyone has to keep up the hard work until nov
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Jan 7th 2008 at 12:53 pm EST
California, New York, Texas, and Ohio take on new levels of importance now.
Hillary is counting on her appeal among Hispanic voters in California and Texas and her name recognition.
But I think the campaign knew how to do things in the right order (more impressed with the Obama campaign every day, and I'm so glad I donated.). Build the base, create energy, focus on a big win in Iowa (which we got ... THANK YOU IOWA!!!!!), turn the tide and do well in NH, and get to Super Tuesday with the momentum on our side.
Lots to do in NY and CA! I'd love to get some updates from states other than NH, IA, NV, and SC whenever you get a chance!
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Jan 7th 2008 at 3:21 pm EST
Ohio? Really? You mean my vote may actually matter for a change? I thought we were going to be too late in the primary season to matter much.
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Jan 7th 2008 at 8:52 pm EST
....Regardless of Iowa and New Hampshire...California is important as one of the most if not the most important state electorally for any candidate.
Being from California and a Hispanic woman now living in No-count Florida, I can honestly say that Ms. Hillary isn't as big a shoe-in with the Hispanic vote in California as she may think especially in the Bay Area where I'm from.
California is in no shape to elect another actor to the white house...and trust me...Hillary certainly proved she can act her way out a paper bag with her spin-conjured holding back the tears emotional 'outburst'.
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Jan 7th 2008 at 12:54 pm EST
at least for NY it is proportional. So, even if Hillary wins, she may not get too many delegates.
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Jan 7th 2008 at 2:15 pm EST
This is like chess: you use to have a strong horse in that square... but if you are good at the game you need to now that the value of every single piece changes at every move of the other pieces. If you "cling" to the past (a movement ago is the "past") and do not update every single moment, you cannot win.
Hispanics (I am one of them) might have sided with Hillary a week or so ago, but don't make any assumptions about that being something written on stone.
Change is the esence of life.
I see hispanics both in TX and CA and elswhere very aware of what is going on and they are paying lots of atention to Obama.
This is history on the making, and we all are not observers but doers.
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Jan 8th 2008 at 12:14 am EST
Arshad,
I agree.. think alot of the FEB 5th states WILL very important for us .
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Jan 7th 2008 at 12:19 pm EST
I do not think people with 'Long Held Ambitions' give up so easily. Here're some pointers -
[1] Had she really thought about consequences then she would not have given that 'Victory Speech' after Iowa defeat.
[2] People with huge EGOs do not understand consequences of their actions. Look at her negative campaign speeches. She doesnot care about burning the bridges with Obama campaign.
[3] As Tim Russert pointed out - It will take some time for these guys to realize that - 'it is time for them to sidestep and let new leaders take over the party'.
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Jan 7th 2008 at 1:02 pm EST
i kinda resent censorship. oh well.
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Jan 7th 2008 at 1:40 pm EST
It is only censor if a blogger reports it otherwise it will remain.
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Jan 7th 2008 at 11:51 am EST
Superdelegates are delegates to a presidential nominating convention in the United States who are not bound by the decisions of party primaries or caucuses. Superdelegates are elected officeholders and party officials.
Superdelegates were first appointed in the 1970s, after control of the nomination process in the Democratic Party effectively moved out of the hands of party officials into the primary and caucus process. The aim was to accord some say in the process to people who had been playing roles in the party before the election year.
As of the 2008 nominating cycle, the Republican Party does not have superdelegates. It does, however, have 463 unpledged delegates, 123 of whom are Republican National Committee members.[1]
In the Democratic primary phase of the 2004 U.S. Presidential election, Howard Dean acquired an early lead in delegate counts by obtaining the support of a number of superdelegates before even the first primaries were held.
[edit] The Democratic National Convention
The Democratic National Convention, where the Democratic presidential ticket is formally agreed upon, has 796 superdelegates. Superdelegates to the Democratic Convention include all Democratic members of the United States Congress, various additional elected officials, as well as members of the Democratic National Committee.
A candidate needs a simple majority of the combined delegate and superdelegate votes to secure the nomination. Democratic delegates from state caucuses and primaries number 3,253. This means that the total number of votes is 4,049. The total number of delegate votes needed to win the nomination is 2,025. Superdelegates account for approximately one fifth (19.7%) of all votes at the convention. Delegates chosen in the Democratic caucuses and primaries account for about four fifths (80.3%) of the Democratic convention delegates.[2]
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This is a good one to follow, it should update regularly: It looks a little scary right now. But it will change when we get closer to the end, as Obama wins more and more. That is why we CAN NOT QUIT WORKING, DAY AND NIGHT!
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Jan 7th 2008 at 12:49 pm EST
Thank You so much! This information was great and you presented it so well. I now understand the nomination, superdelegate process. The link was also great! The Clinton superdelegate lead looks ominous right now. But if others drop out are their superdelegates free to move to other candidates?
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Jan 7th 2008 at 1:50 pm EST
Yes, they are free to move!!!
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Jan 7th 2008 at 2:59 pm EST
can superdelegates change or are they committed?
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Jan 7th 2008 at 3:31 pm EST
Am I understanding this correctly? In other words superdelagates were created by the party officials so they could override what the voters wanted? They could effectively make their in-side guy the winner of the nomination.
If that is the case, we should be very wary of the DNC. A lot of arms are going to be twisted out of their sockets on this one.
Hopefully I'm misunderstanding who and what the superdelegatets are.
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Jan 8th 2008 at 12:17 am EST
Laura,
Agree,
Things look great.. BUT we CANNOT afford to quit working !!!
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Jan 7th 2008 at 11:54 am EST
This is funny
Obama Costs Irish Bookie $75,000
DUBLIN, January 7, 2008 /PRNewswire via COMTEX/ -- Ireland's largest bookmaker, Paddy Power, are today claiming that the Democratic Nomination race is well and truly over and are already paying out on Barack Obama to be the successful Democratic nominee.
The early payout signals a massive EUR50,000 ($75,000) payday to lucky punters who backed Obama over the recent number of weeks at various odds ranging from 4/1 to 4/9.
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Arshad Hussain
Jan 7th 2008 at 12:12 pm EST
May be she is all that and she is Indira Gandhi and Margaret Thacher. She has 35 years of experience and we appreciate her service. Thank you Senator Clinton for doing all these work.
But may be it's the fact that people are just thinking at this moment that it's simply not her time. SHe thinks it's her turn. But she can not force people think the same way. May be people are really looking for something competely different. She is good. But may be just Senator Obama is a far better candidate compared to her in the eyes of electorate.
I feel bad for Bill Clinton. He was a respected former President. Now he is not even a good democrat. He reduced himself to just the husband of a democratic candidate. Sad Bill. At the end of the day, you have lost a lot during these few months.
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Jan 7th 2008 at 12:56 pm EST
Hillary said Vladimir Putin (you know, the guy in charge of all those nuclear weapons over in Russia) had no soul. She's a smart one, that Hillary.
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Jan 7th 2008 at 2:43 pm EST
She's meaner.
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Jan 7th 2008 at 3:21 pm EST
Indeed, she is meaner. She's out on the campaign trail teary-eyed explaining how badly she wants to win, but a few months ago she was TELLING US that we WOULD go to the polls and vote for her.
Does anybody actually believe that she would be crying if she were winning. It's just another attempt to win.
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Jan 7th 2008 at 12:00 pm EST
After the Saturday night debate, George Stepanoopps!ulis and Di-meoux-ne Sawyer, (both strong Clinton supporters) replayed Senator Obama’s comment to Senator Clinton, following HC’s blushing-bride routine. (This was a HC mood change just minutes after her irate scolding. Hey! I thought the first female/feminist presidential aspirant was supposed to present as tho she is not subject to mood swings)
Senator Obama said something along the lines of ‘You’re well-liked enough…’
The partisan anchors wondered aloud that they were “not sure what he meant by that.”
That sentiment was echoed Sunday by Mark Halprin, who is smart, but who has demonstrated time and again that he is missing his funny bone.
The comment was an example of Senator Obama’s wit, as in, “You are a formidable enough opponent for someone who is not supposedly that well-liked’ type of thing. This was following a moderator’s question to Senator Clinton re the disparity of the likeability quotient between her and Senator Obama.
If interested, see my blog on this site for deconstruction of the witticism. Aw shucks, I know, wit is not supposed to need unpacking.
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yesterday gone
Jan 7th 2008 at 12:16 pm EST
cnn tried to spin that comment too. with the anchors going "we don't know what he meant by it because he wasn't smiling."
yes, he was. who they foolin'?
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Jan 7th 2008 at 1:10 pm EST
Westlaker
I'm not running for prez, I don't have to play nice, esply when people are playin' dirty.
I see Navy pride as standing up to it.
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Jan 7th 2008 at 1:52 pm EST
But on this forum, what we say reflects on Senator Obama, so I think it's smart for us all to do our best to reflect his approach of rising above the name-calling.
No one here objects to differences of opinion. We just want to do it in a way that doesn't reflect poorly on this campaign. Remember that there are probably people from other campaigns who would LOVE to be able to quote "an Obama supporter" as saying something that can be taken out of context, blown out of proportion, and made to sound terrible.
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Jan 7th 2008 at 12:33 pm EST
I heard analysts say he could have been "warmer," but still handled it well. And came out the clear winner of the overall debate.
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Jan 7th 2008 at 12:56 pm EST
Hollie -
Hard for any of the top three candidates, including Obama, to have been "warmer" in last Sat night's debate.
Since preceding the Iowa caucus, none of the three have gotten more than 3 hours sleep a night, from what I heard.
They looked tired, and rightfully so, in the debate.
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Jan 7th 2008 at 12:56 pm EST
After Hillary's go for the throat approach earlier in the debate, her "I think he's likeable" was of course completely disingenuous. Besides the fact that she has been less than gracious toward him the entire campaign.
So when he magnamimously returned the compliment as any gentleman would, perhaps he could have sounded warmer but no one would have believed that any more than we believe Hillary actually likes Barack! Besides, if his compliment wasn't that believable it only tells me that he isn't that great a liar! I LIKE that in a president!
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Jan 7th 2008 at 2:09 pm EST
Clearly, Obama felt bad that the moderator asked Hillary that question. Obama does not like that sort of personal attacks. It is not what he is all about. I believe he was surprised by it and felt bad for Hillary. His response was gracious. He was trying to deflect the embarassment from Hillary, very presidential. If he had expected the question, no doubt he would have been even more gracious toward her. That is remarkable and speaks to the character of the man because she attacked him all night long.
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marytnurse, supporting Barack Obama until I see his library built on donations from We The People
Jan 7th 2008 at 12:17 pm EST
Remember, he left the Clinton Admin. before they left the House, he was frustrated with all the womanizing and lying about it. I see him as having a great deal of respect for Bill and feeling sorry for Hillary, but not all that enamored with them any more.
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Jan 7th 2008 at 4:06 pm EST
I agree with you on that. I think he has his own reputation to maintain
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Jan 7th 2008 at 1:00 pm EST
Hey sailor .. be nice show some Navy pride!
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Jan 7th 2008 at 1:26 pm EST
Hillary won't drop out this early, she still thinks she can beat our boy Obama - fat chance! Old George Steponallofus has been a Clinton shrill forever. He will give all the "good" press he can to them so let what he says pretty much go in one ear and out the other. Iowa was just the first state to say -enough- we want REAL change, and New Hampshire will make two. Hillary I'sn't change - she is more of the same old same old...
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Jan 7th 2008 at 12:08 pm EST
on morning joe, did you see that photo of some guy standing next to obama wearing a blue barack tshirt? i want that shirt! where do i get it?
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Jan 7th 2008 at 12:36 pm EST
:(
nobody saw the tshirt i'm talking about?
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Jan 7th 2008 at 12:47 pm EST
i saw it check the Obama store if it is not there I'm sure you can buy one from one of those web sites that sale Obama brand stuff but are not connected to the campaign. (I didnt just tell you that by the way)
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Jan 7th 2008 at 12:09 pm EST
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Let them know how you feel about this statement in the story:
Obama made brief remarks outside to the crowd, giving a shortened version of his stump speech. The footage and the report will be pooled since the campaign did a poor job of telling all of us that was about to happen, and now the journalists outside are being told by the fire marshal that they cannot come back in.
Yesterday at an event in Salem, a couple in the overflow room for Obama told us that that about a hundred people or more had left the event, tired of waiting to see him for several hours and having staff tell them that they probably would not get in to see him.
Will this help or hurt Obama? It can't be a bad thing to have such huge crowds, but if you irritate voters in the process -- especially New Hampshirites, who expect to meet candidates in smaller more intimate settings -- will it backfire?
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Jan 7th 2008 at 1:52 pm EST
Overflow Crowds...while I can fully understand their disappointment, I hope that they understand that the campaign could never have anticipated the turnout! Plus, I'm sure these venues had been booked weeks ago. Even days ago, who knew? Can you imagine the logistics?!?!?
But, President Obama understands! At every stop, he actually goes outside and talks to and shakes hands with those who can't get in!
At every stop, he's a little late starting his speech because he is outside with the people!
It's not the same as seeing him speak inside the venue, but to see our President "feel their pain" (tee-hee)...THAT'S why we support Barack Obama!
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Jan 7th 2008 at 2:13 pm EST
There simply are not that many venues in the state of NH to accomodate such large crowds. True Obama supporters will understand even though they are disappointed that they did not get in. Obama goes out of his way to speak those outside before he goes in to speak in spite of the fact that his throat is sore and he should be resting his voice whenever possible.
Latest National Rasmussen Poll: Clinton 33%, Obama 29%, Edwards 20% |
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Jan 7th 2008 at 12:10 pm EST
Latest National Rasmussen Poll: Clinton 33%, Obama 29%, Edwards 20%
Daily Presidential Tracking Poll
Monday, January 07, 2008
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday shows that Hillary Clinton’s national polling lead has collapsed. Before the Iowa caucuses, Clinton held a seventeen-point lead over Barack Obama. Today, that lead is down to four percentage points in a survey with a four-point margin of sampling error.
In the race for the Democratic Presidential Nomination, it’s now Clinton 33%, Barack Obama 29% and John Edwards 20% (see recent daily numbers). Next update Tuesday at 11:00 a.m. Eastern. RasmussenMarkets.com data suggests that Obama may now be considered the frontrunner for the nomination.
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Jan 7th 2008 at 12:20 pm EST
Don't worry about the national numbers. All that matters at the moment is New Hampshire. Because what the national numbers look like in a few more days will be determined by what happens in NH. If Clinton achieves what would be a surprise win at this point it will hurt us nationally. If Obama gets the win and another victory speech on national television then what needs to happen will happen.
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Jan 7th 2008 at 1:02 pm EST
I disagree ... the national numbers do matter, and they're trending in our favor. If we compete in the next 3 primaries/caucuses (NH, NV, and SC) I think we'll be in good shape headed into Super-Duper Tsunami Tuesday.
But I'll tell you all, there is still plenty of work to be done in Tennessee. I'm glad we just had some folks who were up in Iowa, and they returned to share with us in TN yesterday. Great opportunities!
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Jan 7th 2008 at 12:23 pm EST
Interesting article by Rasmussen. Here's the MOST interesting part...
One measure highlighting the magnitude of the changed dynamics can be found in data from the Rasmussen Markets. Closing prices the day before Iowa implied that Clinton had a 65% chance of winning the nomination and Obama was given a 29% chance. At 9:00 a.m. Eastern on the day before New Hampshire, those numbers have reversed—Obama is given a 63% chance of winning while Clinton’s prospects have dwindled to 34% (current prices: Obama 100.0%, Clinton 0.0%).
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Susan Rice on now...
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Jan 7th 2008 at 12:22 pm EST
Clearly, we have the wrong Rice as Secretary of State. Susan Rice is very impressive and I always say we need her out there as much as possible. Samantha Power and Susan Rice are just so smart and poised that they give me great confidence when they do the surrogate thing.
HRC might skip South Carolina? as susan said, that would be very unfortunate for the SC electorate. I doubt it will happen. It would be conceding the race to Obama , imo.
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Jan 7th 2008 at 12:22 pm EST
Suggestion that she won't run in SC at all? Rice said that would be too bad...
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Jan 7th 2008 at 12:15 pm EST
I am getting increasingly nervous that Obama could sail to victory in NH and SC but then not have the momentum to overcome Hillary in Demotcratic strongholds like NY (my home state) and CA - anywhere they don't let indpendants vote in primaries.
And what about the super delegate situation?
Am I just being a nervous nelly? Can anyone ease my fears?
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marytnurse, supporting Barack Obama until I see his library built on donations from We The People
Jan 7th 2008 at 12:19 pm EST
Independents couldn't vote here in Iowa either; we had to re-register as Ds. What are the rules/how do they apply there?
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Winning in New York
Jan 7th 2008 at 12:26 pm EST
I'm trying to figure that out now. I believe you have to be registered a Democrat by the 11th of January.
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Jan 7th 2008 at 12:42 pm EST
No, in California, the registration deadline is JANUARY 21.
You must re-register as a Democrat. "Decline to State" voters can also vote Democratic.
I was a "Decline to State" voter, but I re-registered as a Democrat just to make sure...because there was a confusing statement about how DTS voters have to request a Democratic ballot.
Just grab a form from the post office and drop it in the mail! Very quick and easy!
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Leila
Jan 7th 2008 at 12:43 pm EST
Oh, I'm sorry, I thought you were talking about California!
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Leila
Jan 7th 2008 at 12:50 pm EST
Yes, Winning in New York, the registration deadline in NEW YORK is JANUARY 11.
Here are all the deadlines for every state:
ROCK THE VOTE
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Jan 7th 2008 at 12:25 pm EST
California will be the whole enchilada in the end... Obama needs it to take the nomination. I know he has 120,000 volunteers swarming in California but it is a huge state and Barack will be unable to get a face to face with the voters like in Iowa and NH. We need the organizational thrust to have a chance out west. it will not be easy but it is do-able.
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Jan 7th 2008 at 12:28 pm EST
Does California allow independents to vote in their Democratic primaries?
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Jan 7th 2008 at 12:33 pm EST
Voter Participation: Party members and Independents
Voter Affiliation: Party affiliation is changed
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Leila
Jan 7th 2008 at 12:46 pm EST
In California, you must be a registered Democrat or a "Decline to State" voter.
However, it says that a "Decline to State" voter must request a Democratic ballot. That was confusing, so I just re-registered as a Democrat. I want to make sure nothing stands in my way to vote for Barack Obama!
CA deadline: January 21
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Jan 7th 2008 at 12:51 pm EST
ROCK THE VOTE
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yesterday gone
Jan 7th 2008 at 12:30 pm EST
I am getting increasingly nervous that Obama could sail to victory in NH and SC but then not have the momentum to overcome Hillary in Demotcratic strongholds like NY (my home state) and CA - anywhere they don't let indpendants vote in primaries.
And what about the super delegate situation?
Am I just being a nervous nelly? Can anyone ease my fears?
i'm in ca. i, too, thought we had a closed primary. but then i saw this:
from SFGate:
Wednesday, March 7, 2007
If California's independent voters want a voice in next year's presidential primary, they better start paying attention to Hillary Rodham Clinton, Barack Obama and the rest of the Democratic candidates.
While the nearly 20 percent of California voters who register as decline to state will be welcome in the Democratic presidential primary, they will be barred from casting a ballot for any of the Republican presidential hopefuls.
"Since 1999, the state party rules have said that only Republicans can participate in its presidential primary,'' said Jon Fleischman, a state party official who also runs a popular GOP political Web site. "The purpose of a primary is for party members to come together and decide who should represent them. If you don't want to be involved as a party member, why should you vote?''
California Democrats have a different view of the proposed Feb. 5, 2008, presidential primary. Decline-to-state voters can simply request a Democratic ballot, either by mail or at the polls, and have their choice recorded alongside those of the party regulars.
"There are a lot of decline-to-state voters in this state who tend to have Democratic ideals and values,'' said Roger Salazar, a spokesman for the state party. "We're happy to have them vote in our primary.''
Decline-to-state voters are the fastest-growing segment of the California electorate, particularly among young voters, and Republicans and Democrats desperately need the support of those independents to win in November.
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yesterday gone
Jan 7th 2008 at 12:38 pm EST
i should have posted the headline which was more succinct:
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Leila
Jan 7th 2008 at 12:53 pm EST
Actually, in CA, they're called "Decline to State" voters.
Must not be confused with the actual "American Independent" party.
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Jan 7th 2008 at 12:31 pm EST
Back in NYC.... two hours sleep after three hour plane ride. O.K. ABOUT NYS....
YESTERDAY: There was a huge rally at the state office in NYC for Barack Obama (this was in upper mahattan) There were more state and local officals there than at the beginning of this campaign. people are now in a bind because rememeber all the "old guard' that through their support behind HRC? well now it seems they WANT TO STAND WITH OBAMA,but this may cause a backlash for their political careers. This is being felt through out the AA communitty and the "old Guard" DOES NOT KNOW HOW TO HANDLE THIS OBAMA SURGE!!! HAVE YOU GUYS SEEN ALL THE NY PAPAERS??? OMG!!!! I NEVER WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE BEFORE SUPER TUESDAY. keep the phone banking going!!!! They need to be steady with reaching people in the lagre state coming up that are still not sure about Obama.
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yesterday gone
Jan 7th 2008 at 12:32 pm EST
i'm tried to verify that sfgate story on my local registrar of voters site. cant find it right now. i'll call their office later on just to make sure.
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Jan 8th 2008 at 12:28 am EST
MISSOURI VOTING INFORMATION & DEADLINE
REGISTRATION DEADLINE - WED 1/09/08
Age requirement- You must be 18 by 2/5/08 to vote in the primary
Primary Date - FEB 5th
(I apologize for the caps but wanted to make sure that any Missouri residents on the blog see the info & ACT if they have NOT already done so)
Bipartisan Political Forum _ on CNN |
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Jan 7th 2008 at 12:19 pm EST
Looks like these guys are talking about the Obama Administration. They will never admit that, but the language used so far points straight to Barack!
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Mike aka Not this Time
Jan 7th 2008 at 12:23 pm EST
This is strange, this forum was scheduled before the IOWA caucus. Barack's campaign is truly visionary and truly ahead of curve! Sounds like these guys are setting up for Barack's Administration.
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Jan 7th 2008 at 12:25 pm EST
Diane's a bit of an idiot, but it's always good to see Senator Obama on TV.
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Jan 7th 2008 at 3:46 pm EST
I dont like her creepy smile.
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Derrick from Baraboo, WI
Jan 7th 2008 at 12:26 pm EST
I think there is a pretty simple deflection to all the "no experience" talk. A Kennedy did not have to know how to build a rocket, only to know how to inspire and motivate America to a goal. IF Obama does win the election as president he needs to make good choices based on his character. He will have ideas and seek out experts in each field to present options. The president is never an expert on every issue. He is the person who we trust to take the time to review the options, take in every opinion and then make the best choices in the interest of the people.
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Jan 7th 2008 at 12:29 pm EST
Grassroots Action Guide
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yesterday gone
Jan 7th 2008 at 12:40 pm EST
i'm looking for pithy little fact sheets i can leaflet my neighborhood with.
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Jan 7th 2008 at 1:09 pm EST
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yesterday gone
Jan 7th 2008 at 1:26 pm EST
thank you!
the economy sheet looks like a good one.
Baghdad Bob...it just occured to me!!! (HRC surrogates) |
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Major_Man saying YES WE CAN!
Jan 7th 2008 at 12:30 pm EST
I'm watching MSNBC and reminded of Baghdad Bob as I hear some of the HRC surrogates speak on her behalf about how "it's a nationwide campaign...doing well...lots of friends, etc..."
Remember him from 2003?
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Photo here:
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Jan 7th 2008 at 12:58 pm EST
Well, Fox now has their own poll which shows the lead by only (4). The correct poll is (13). I am of the opinion that all of the networks are just simply overwhelmed by the reality of this AWESOME moment in history and that the "Clinton Machine" is about to be sunk!!! What else do they say -- Bill Clinton is livid!! In many respects this is HIS campaign!! Now he says he is "sorry" his wife is not "young", "tall" and "male!! How would you like to be demeaned as a person (and a wife) that way? You would think that our media would want to promote the TRUTH, INTEGRITY, AND RESOLVE of Barack, and promote the HOPE that this intelligent, inspired, and honest man has for ALL AMERICANS in a positive and unselfish manner. It certainly is a better story to promote than an impeachment of a president which we all endured not so long ago!! I believe the American people are ready to put the past behind them and TRUST in Barack Obama to UNITE THIS NATION AND THE WORLD.
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Jan 7th 2008 at 4:56 pm EST
Fox has always been highly critical of Hillary, more so than any other Dem candidate. I think they thought she had the nomination wrapped up but not they see that's not the case so they're trying to hurt Barack. They know he is much more able than Hil to beat the Rep nominee.
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Jan 7th 2008 at 12:33 pm EST
That's the simplest rebuttal to Clinton:
WORDS INSPIRE ACTION
Clinton is saying that "Obama is all talk and no action," but talk is exactly how we instigate action.
If we're not convincing people to act, we're forcing them. It's either the word or the gun, convince or twist an arm.
Talk is exactly what we need to negotiate, change minds, and motivate people to act.
I'm for Obama because I think he can reunite this divided "United" States and reunite the U.S. with the rest of the world. I'm for Obama because he will do it through force of words rather than force of guns. Talk is the means of action.
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Jan 7th 2008 at 12:44 pm EST
You guys have to watch this. It is hilarious... WARNING: You will have to listen to the voice of HRC (campaigning), but this is an idea of what her supporters think of her. Not in a nice way either. You will get your morning/afternoon laugh...
Click on Washington Sketch: 'Fired Up Ready To Bore!' (watch the bore-meter!)
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Then you can go down to the video of Michelle Obama: 'Real People' video, wow! What an inspiration the Obama's are...
OBAMA 2008!
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Jan 7th 2008 at 12:53 pm EST
Debra,
This video made me laugh so much. Dana Milbank is great. I am happy to see that the Washington Post and MSNBC are ready for change! This might get played on Keith Olbermann's Countdown program tonite.
Thanks for posting it here.
Ryan
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Jan 7th 2008 at 12:52 pm EST
Here is an article of Obama vs Clinton (look at the we and I).
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Clinton is treating the campaign as a job interview -- indeed, she called it exactly that in Penacook -- and trying to persuade voters that she has the best qualifications for the post.
Obama is treating it as a crusade -- and asking voters to join him in his quest for change.
Trust my experience and nominate me to make things better for you, she says.
Trust your heart and come with me and we'll change change our country together, he urges.
There's simply no comparison in the relative pull of those arguments.
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yesterday gone
Jan 7th 2008 at 12:58 pm EST
iowa went with their head last time. we got kerry as a result. this time, they went with their gut.
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Jan 7th 2008 at 12:55 pm EST
TALK OF HILLARY EXIT ENGULFS CAMPAIGNS
Mon Jan 07 2008 09:46:28 ET
Facing a double-digit defeat in New Hampshire, a sudden collapse in national polls and an expected fund-raising drought, Senator Hillary Clinton is preparing for a tough decision: Does she get out of the race? And when?!
"She can't take multiple double-digit losses in New Hampshire, South Carolina and Nevada," laments one top campaign insider to the DRUDGE REPORT. "If she gets too badly embarrassed, it will really harm her. She doesn't want the Clinton brand to be damaged with back-to-back-to-back defeats."
Meanwhile, Democrat hopeful John Edwards has confided to senior staff that he is staying in the race because Hillary "could soon be out."
"Her money is going to dry up," Edwards confided, a top source said Monday morning.
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Key players in Clinton's inner circle are said to be split. James Carville is urging her to fight it out through at least February and Super Tuesday, where she has a shot at thwarting Barack Obama in a big state.
"She did not work this hard to get out after one state! All this talk is nonsense," said one top adviser.
But others close to the former first lady now see no possible road to victory, sources claim.
Developing...
[The dramatic reversal of fortunes has left the media establishment stunned and racing to keep up with fast-moving changes.
In its final poll before Iowa, CNN showed Clinton with a two-point lead over Obama. Editorial decisions were being made based on an understanding the Democratic primary race would be close, explained a network executive.]
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Jan 7th 2008 at 1:18 pm EST
Please stop discussion of this as it's taking away from our positive message. What she does, she does and she's not doing anythng of the sort immediately. No disrespect, but let's stay on course and work like were 30 points behind (and thanks Matthew for continuting to stree this).
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Jan 7th 2008 at 12:56 pm EST
going down the tubes with HRC. If HRC get trampled in NH and SC and NV the wave will be to great. Rudy may not get the nomination and if he does not look for him to challenge HRC for her senate seat. This could be the end of the line for the Clintons. America is tired of Monica, Willy, Flowers, Impeachment, Travelgate, 100K cow futures, Mark Rich and Hugh Rodham pardens, Linclon bedroom sleeplover, Missle tech to China. We are ready and anchous for the Clintons to go home to where ever and spend the rest of their lives together. They truely deserve each other.
How do we deal with an Emotional Clinton |
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Jan 7th 2008 at 12:59 pm EST
Man! She has been standing facing Right Wing Attack machine, tough like Nelson Mendela .....
Now in tears seeing NH polls??!!
PORTSMOUTH, New Hampshire (AFP) - Hillary Clinton appeared to fight back tears, and her voice cracked with emotion Monday, as the strain of repairing her damaged White House hopes welled up.
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Jan 7th 2008 at 2:15 pm EST
Wow...I actually feel really really bad for her...
As much as I may dislike this Senator from New York, there are times when her emotions come up, when she's not being so dishonest and misleading that I actually feel sorry for her...
She got emotional early on in an interview w/ Meredith Vierra, and she was giving a very personal story about the fact that she's in the race for presidency b/c she's been working for change all her life, and she got emotional, and I just almost connected w/ her, and sympathized w/ her...then she went on criticizing Obama and Good Feeling GONE.
Someone smack the reality back into me!
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Jan 7th 2008 at 4:04 pm EST
Yep, me too! I almost started feeling guilty and then...BAM! She kindly reminded me that this is an audition to her.
Please give me authenticity
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Jan 7th 2008 at 1:00 pm EST
JANUARY 11, 2008, is the six-year anniversary of the first arrival of prisoners at Guantánamo Bay.
On January 11, we are calling on everyone opposed to torture and indefinite detention to WEAR ORANGE to symbolize their sadness and disgust with the national shame that is Guantánamo Bay.
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Arshad Hussain
Jan 7th 2008 at 2:16 pm EST
Man! She has been standing facing Right Wing Attack machine, tough like Nelson Mendela .....
Now in tears seeing NH polls??!!
PORTSMOUTH, New Hampshire (AFP) - Hillary Clinton appeared to fight back tears, and her voice cracked with emotion Monday, as the strain of repairing her damaged White House hopes welled up.
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Jan 7th 2008 at 12:58 pm EST
Firstly, thank you everyone who contributes to this blog. I'm addicted to it: it is the most eloquent, funniest, supportive, disciplined and polite forum, and the best for breaking news.
I'm one of the many non-Americans who are following the movement very closely - I read it constantly on my phone, haven't slept for days! I live in Devon, South West England, and have been following Barack since the DNC speech in '04. Barack is huge news all across the UK, people desperately want America to take back their government.
Anyhoo, a few reflections on the last few days of blog-reading.
Obama is rocketing at the moment, and this website (and blog) will be getting much more attention. How we conduct ourselves says alot about this movement. This movement isn't like other campaigns. We want this movement to grow, to be inclusive and passionate and caring. We are going to have many people come over here to take a look around, and we want them to spend some time here, read through the issues, watch the videos, and get involved. Some will ask us questions, and we have been great at posting accurate information very quickly, but some will deliberately try to provoke us, try to undermine us, and try to fracture our resolve. The best rule of thumb for these guys, expressed by waterprise2 in an earlier thread, is WWOB - What Would Obama Do? We've seen beautifully what he does - he stays above the fray.
When the trolls come marching on, do three things: Ignore them, Donate to the movement, and start another post.
Also, polls don't win elections - the trend looks good, but the ONLY thing that matters is getting out the vote. That is everything. We really are on the cusp of historic change, but this is precisely the time when we cannot be complacent, we must stay disciplined, and we must work extra hard to get out the vote. Every vote matters.
If you think New Hampshire is home and dry, Google and read a National Review piece from Friday called The Girl Who Sank Hillary. (I don't know how to post a link here, but someone posted it yesterday.) One girl's second choice decision to go to Edwards instead of Hillary placed Hillary in 3rd across the state! Imagine the difference if she'd come 2nd.
Lets win this
Vote Obama
love
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Jan 7th 2008 at 1:04 pm EST
Dear Pete,
Thank you for your support and for your sage advice.
To post a link, you simply cut and paste the url and the Obama website magically converts it to the word 'link'.
Warmest regards,
J.
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Jan 7th 2008 at 1:26 pm EST
Thank you, and thanks for all your wonderful posts and hard work
so, here's a great article about the need to speak to as many people as possible:
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Iowa made news across the planet, the desire for America to vore for real change is sweeping the world.
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Deadlines to register for Primary |
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Jan 7th 2008 at 1:00 pm EST
Arizona
January 7, 2008 is the last day to register to vote in the 2008 presidential preference primary.
California
January 21, 2008 is the last day to register to vote in the 2008 presidential preference primary.
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Colorado
January 7, 2008 is the last day to register to vote for the February 5th precinct caucus.
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Connecticut
January 31, 2008 is the last day to register by mail for the primary; eligible residents of Connecticut can also register in person up until noon on February 4th (the day before the primary).
Delaware
January 12, 2008 is the last day to register to vote in the 2008 presidential primary election.
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District of Columbia
January 14, 2008 is the last day to register to vote in the presidential preference primary.
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Georgia
January 7, 2008 is the last day to register to vote in the presidential preference primary.
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Illinois
January 8, 2008 is the last day to register to vote for the 2008 presidential preference primary. There is also a Grace Period Registration and Voting that runs from January 9, 2008 to January 22, 2008.
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Kansas
The deadline to register for the Democratic caucus is January 21, 2008; the deadline for the Republican caucus is January 25, 2008.
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Louisiana
January 9, 2008 is the last day to register to vote for the primary. (30 days before the election)
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Maryland
January 22, 2008 is the last day to register before Maryland’s 2008 presidential primary.
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Massachusetts
January 16, 2008 is the last day to register to vote and change party enrollment for the Presidential Primary.
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Minnesota
January 16, 2008 is the last day to register before the primary. Eligible Minnesotans can also register to vote at the polling place on Election Day, or prior to this by delivering a voter registration application by 5:00 p.m. 21 days before the election.
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Missouri
January 9, 2008 is the last day to register for Missouri’s primary.
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Nevada
To participate in the Nevada Democratic , you must be registered to vote with the respective party in Nevada. If you are not registered before the caucus, eligible Nevadans may register upon arrival at the caucus.
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New Jersey
January 15, 2008 is the last day to register to vote before the New Jersey primary. (29 days before the election)
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New York
January 11, 2008 is the last day to
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New York
January 11, 2008 is the last day to register to vote before the primary. (25 days before the election)
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Oklahoma
January 11, 2008 is the last day to register for the primary. (25 days before the election)
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Tennessee
January 7, 2008 is the last day to register before the primary. (30 days before)
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Virginia
January 12, 2008 is the last day to register. (29 days before the election)
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Washington
January 19, 2008 is the last day to register to vote in the Washington primary (by mail or online) or eligible residents may also register in person up until February 4, 2008.
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Jan 8th 2008 at 12:37 am EST
Gm,
Thanks for posting this info for the folks that still need it
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Jan 7th 2008 at 1:00 pm EST
i agree with some others. Obama needs to fully express his policy/viewpoint on a specific issue. this can be done w/out attacking a fellow candidate. i've had several ask, 'i love his speeches and they're inspiring. but does he have substance?' I constantly reply, 'yes. check out his website.' But, will they check out his website? Or watch his videos on foreign policy?
i am walking w/ my white cane in support of obama. personally, (as an actor- who has to do this every day) his energy was low on good morning america. i wanted a bit more enthusiasm. more smiles.
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Benjamin Vos, Nashville
Jan 7th 2008 at 1:06 pm EST
You work 17-hour days and speak for 4 hours and see how much energy you have!
I think he's doing fairly well. No need to act right now - he's just gotta be Barack Obama, and that's good enough for me.
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GM_from_Ohio
Jan 7th 2008 at 1:12 pm EST
And for couple of months at a stretch
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Jan 8th 2008 at 12:53 am EST
Better Yet,
I challenge everyone on here that has NOT been a "Ground Trooper" or volunteering for Obama all these month to put in just (1) 17 hour day of volunteering in YOUR community for Obama.
Just 17 hours.... If you can't do it in (1) day...I'll even give YOU a break---you can have (2) days!!!... if that's STILL too tough (or too much of a challenge)---I'll give you a whole week-end to complete the task!!!! :)
Then maybe, just maybe YOU WILL have a better sense of how Obama is feeling after the grueling schedule he's been keepin FOR US !!!!
As an Obama supporter from Day 1, I think that's the least each of us can do for him in return !!!
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Jan 7th 2008 at 1:12 pm EST
I agree and I didn't actually care for the answer to the first question about winning NH. I didn't understand the motive in being evasive. I think that he needs to properly answer the questions about his votes and policies. Yes, many people have been swept up by the inspiring tone of his campaign and many people, as noted preciously, have done their online homework but not every person has a computer, access or the interest to do this kind of work. I also did not like that he first said that Michelle gave him a thumbs-up and then confided that she doesn't watch the debate. I have caught him a few times in "campaigning moves" and I don't like it. They are few and far between and I realize that we are literally watching this man align himself with his soul. At least he has one.
Obama '08
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Jan 7th 2008 at 1:15 pm EST
He also indicated that Michelle got feedback from reliable people before passing it onto him.
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Brooklyn Mommy
Jan 7th 2008 at 1:13 pm EST
I agree and I didn't actually care for the answer to the first question about winning NH. I didn't understand the motive in being evasive. I think that he needs to properly answer the questions about his votes and policies. Yes, many people have been swept up by the inspiring tone of his campaign and many people, as noted preciously, have done their online homework but not every person has a computer, access or the interest to do this kind of work. I also did not like that he first said that Michelle gave him a thumbs-up and then confided that she doesn't watch the debate. I have caught him a few times in "campaigning moves" and I don't like it. They are few and far between and I realize that we are literally watching this man align himself with his soul. At least he has one.
Obama '08
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Jan 7th 2008 at 1:17 pm EST
He also indicated that Michelle got feedback on the debate from reliable people before passing it onto him.
POLLS |
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Jan 7th 2008 at 1:00 pm EST
Does anyone know when a new poll for Nevada or Florida may be done. Most of the polls are from late november. Just curious!
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Jan 7th 2008 at 2:07 pm EST
The only thing I know are Intrade Market Prices:
Florida: Obama 50.0 and Clinton 63.9
South Carolina: Obama 86.0 and Clinton 16.9
If you do not mind?? |
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Jan 7th 2008 at 1:05 pm EST
If you folks don't mind, can we stop talking about what Hillary's campaign is up to?
Can we concentrate on what we need to or can do to win the Nomination/Presidency?
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Jan 7th 2008 at 1:06 pm EST
Download the issues/policy document and pass it around.
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Randy
Jan 7th 2008 at 1:14 pm EST
Thank you GM. In order for this to happen there will be a huge grass-roots effort across all the Super Tuesday states, even if we manage to win tomorrow. The people in upcoming states need to realize the urgency. They need to own this campaign and feel responsible for pushing it forward themselves just as the volunteers in Iowa when we were still the distant underdog. Looking for Clinton to lose it for us "Just won't do!" We've got to go out and take it by bringing the whole country on board, one door knock at a time.
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GM_from_Ohio
Jan 7th 2008 at 1:21 pm EST
Thanks Randy. Change won't happen if HC or someone else drops out. We need to step-up and make it happen. And hope we do it now.
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Jan 8th 2008 at 12:57 am EST
Randy & GM
Yes the people certainly do !!!
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Benjamin Vos, Nashville
Jan 7th 2008 at 1:21 pm EST
Thanks for the great idea, GM!
I think we should all keep our focus on our campaign and on what Barack Obama is doing as a leader to transform American politics and take our country to the places we know are possible.
I spent an hour at my local campaign office in Nashville - we had 3 women there who had just returned from volunteering in Iowa, and they were already back in the office to do more work for the campaign!
People in Tennessee often feel like they're alone in supporting Obama - because the media is so focused on the Republicans and particularly Fred Thompson. There is still a lot of apathy and cynicism out there - people don't trust what they don't know, and a lot of people don't know Barack Obama.
This is a really helpful video for people who are just getting familiar with our guy.
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And I encourage everyone to take a look at his positions on the issues (especially foreign policy and the economy). He's not just a motivational speaker - he's a great legal mind and an outstanding political leader.
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Jan 7th 2008 at 1:24 pm EST
Dear GM,
I understand you completely but I think that you have to look at your competition to have your finger on the pulse. Pure reporting of course is the best approach. I don't like to read the petty name calling either. It's just seems like more of the same.
The crowning achievement, afterall, would be to have Hillary on our side! For that to happen we would have to believe in the goodness of all people, including Hillary and all of her supporters. We have to be open to differing opinions.
New Goal!
HILLARY FOR OBAMA!!!
Obama '08
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GM_from_Ohio
Jan 7th 2008 at 1:31 pm EST
I love to hear your plans to bring Hillary's supporters to our camp.
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Benjamin Vos, Nashville
Jan 7th 2008 at 1:35 pm EST
me too! Brooklyn Mommy, what do you think we can do to help people learn more about our guy and his leadership credentials?
Barack on Basketball |
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Jan 7th 2008 at 1:07 pm EST
A lighthearted article from Sports Illustrated. Many of you may have read this, but for those you who haven't, please enjoy!
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Jan 7th 2008 at 1:11 pm EST
Romney: McCain Would Struggle In Obama Match-Up
Mitt Romney is arguing that his own message of change would be strongest in a general election, while a long-serving senator like John McCain would have a difficult time winning.
“And I frankly don’t think that Senator McCain, despite his service and his length of experience, that that’s going to be able to stand up to the message that Barack Obama has brought forward,” Romney said at a morning press conference. “I think Barack Obama would be able to do to John McCain exactly what he was able to do to the other senators who are running on the Democratic side.”
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Jan 7th 2008 at 1:13 pm EST
My video contribution, 'Believe Again'. Please pass on the link and encourage a donation to the campaign.
New Hampshire, Nevada, South Carolina - listen to your hearts, be inspired - believe again!
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LM707
Jan 7th 2008 at 1:24 pm EST
I think New Hampshire has caught on!! Look at those polls! I am a true Bill Clinton fan, I am praying that when Barack Obama wins NH that President Clinton shows us his grace and commitment to the party. Hillary's demise is not because she's not tall or she's not male, as he commented, it's because the American people see something different in Barack Obama.
I for one look forward to celebrating a new day in American politics, it is my hope that the Clintons will eventually stop politics as usual and ultimately celebrate with us.
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Jan 7th 2008 at 1:24 pm EST
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I think that Obama needs to be ready for the republican attack machine.
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Benjamin Vos, Nashville
Jan 7th 2008 at 1:31 pm EST
I am a Bush voter in 2000 and I prefer Obama over McCain any day of the week.
Stronger on education, stronger on diplomacy, stronger on building consensus, more energetic leadership, more focused on the future.
Don't get me wrong ... like McCain a lot and he's probably in my top 3-5 right now. But I'm sold on Obama and I've done my homework.
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yesterday gone
Jan 7th 2008 at 1:21 pm EST
msnbc ran a snippet of live footage from obama's speech:
...democrats and independents and republicans to stand up together and say that we are one nation, that we are one people and that we are no longer going to settle, we are no longer going to accept a politics that is not serving the interests of ordinary americans. we want to take our country back. we want to do something to create a better future for the next generation. right here, right now. that's what we can do in one day's' time.
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Jan 7th 2008 at 1:21 pm EST
Republicans Worried about Obama -
The leading Republican strategist, who requested anonymity because this person advises a number of Republican presidential candidates,told CNN "I think Barack Obama is a potential Robert Kennedy or Reagan figure." And "In terms of raw political horsepower, he is the most electable of any of the Democrats and potentially more electable than Bill Clinton. If he ran the right campaign he could appeal to a substantial number of Republicans and Independents."
This person insists an Obama nomination isn't a done deal. "He could make a mistake. His people could get overconfident. He needs to continue to push his theme even as she continues to hit him on different issues."
I AGREE - BUT - He also needs to inject a little more substance / specifics into the stump speech. I am not strategist I just think it would make the speech stronger - as long as it doesnt diminish its capacity to appeal to people emotionally.
What do I know..
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Jan 7th 2008 at 1:29 pm EST
I am telling you all from my personal experience in Iowa. People who come to these events get a policy book upon sign-in. It has everything in black & white. People who are watching from far can download the issues from here
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Jan 7th 2008 at 1:37 pm EST
I dont think Obama has to explain his views until people ask him. We know his views and those that dont can find them easily. If we were to start talking about policy it would lead to small attack that could get him off message. No one else is going around explaining their policy because it is boring and has more downside than upside. Our opponents will and have attacked Obama about where he stands we know he has great positions and plans and when he is asked at a debate or at an event he gives great answers. Let's stay on message
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yesterday gone
Jan 7th 2008 at 1:41 pm EST
He also needs to inject a little more substance / specifics into the stump speech. I am not strategist I just think it would make the speech stronger - as long as it doesnt diminish its capacity to appeal to people emotionally.
tv seems intent to show only obama's stump speeches. i'm more interested in his town hall meetings which has more specifity and because i love to hear the audience ask questions.
from newsweek:
He [obama] has shown a willingness to stray from his script and risk engaging (or boring) audiences with rambling professorial explanations about the details of this or that policy.
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Jan 7th 2008 at 1:24 pm EST
Clinton is really beginning to turn me off. She can't distinguish herself any better than this. To pick at the state lobbyist personnel is petty compared to who FINANCING her campaign. Obama has raised money from individuals in record amounts. America has always taken a chance on idealistic new leaders like JFK and even the 92 Clinton. Our country needs inspiration and great leadership for to tackle the task of our security and our financial viability in the world. Listening to her is like listening to my mother when I went off to college, "you can't do that". Well "yes I can mom", and I did.
Or perhaps she's just giving us the prelude to what her presidency would be about, low expectations, lower results. That's how we're judging the success of Iraq now, let's lower the bar then it won't seem so bad. It's really just fear and it is sad.
We've had too much of it from Bush and it's taken us years to even demand simple answers from the White House. I'm also really tired of her taking credit for Bill Clinton's presidency. They are 2 individuals and a vote for one should not equate a 3rd term for Bill. God bless the Clintons, but it's time for a new day.
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yesterday gone
Jan 7th 2008 at 1:51 pm EST
beginning?
: )
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Jan 7th 2008 at 3:52 pm EST
This is nothing new. Fox has been making snide
comments about Barack Obama from the get go.
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The only new thing is that Bill O'Reilly wants so desperately to get Barack on his show that he shoved one of Obama's aides this weekend trying to get to the Senator. By the way the Senator was gracious as always.
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Benjamin Vos, Nashville
Jan 7th 2008 at 1:32 pm EST
Negative, like what? Did they put horns on his picture and call him the devil? If you have a link to share, that would be great! Thanks for watching Fox (I can't stand to do it) and keeping us posted.
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Jan 7th 2008 at 1:30 pm EST
I am a staunch supporter of Barack Obama. (I Google his name every morning and check his campaign web site at least three times a day. I would have volunteered to campaign in Iowa but I was in the process of applying to graduate school.) I wanted to reiterate the fact that Mr. Obama's replies to Hillary's attacks on Good Morning America seemed rather weak. While staunch supporters like myself know the intricate details of his stance on the three issues presented on GMA I think he should be crystal clear during future interviews for wavering independents and new comers. He should also watch the level of frustration he displays. I realize he's tired, I realize he's working hard and I realize that he misses his family, but candidates who appear frustrated also appear less confident. (i.e. Hillary during the New Hampshire debate.) He is not a flip flopper and he should not be perceived as one. His staff should send out an email that clarifies his stance on those three issues.
This is my first post!
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Jan 7th 2008 at 1:37 pm EST
I totally agree with you on this one.
He doesn't need to attack, but he needs to state his position, although you never know if you got the full thing from ABC since the news and website are so pro-Hillary.
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Jan 8th 2008 at 1:07 am EST
KizDaLady,
Welcome & Thanks for posting.
PLEASE be sure to pass along the Missouri Voting Registration DEADLINE -(THIS WED 1/09/08) to your fellow students
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Jan 7th 2008 at 1:52 pm EST
Despite bombast from a few Fox ppl(Bill O being the nbr one example), Fox is more subtle than that. I think their goal is to interview Hillary when if begins to withdraw. Hillary on Fox would be a great coup for them.
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Jan 7th 2008 at 1:31 pm EST
Poor guy looks exhausted... hopefully after he wins New Hampshire he'll get some time to rest!
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yesterday gone
Jan 7th 2008 at 1:57 pm EST
he looks better than yesterday. sounds stronger too. he must have gotten some sleep.
yesterday he looked so sleep deprived, i was afraid he would stagger and fall.
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Jan 7th 2008 at 1:32 pm EST
Hillary Tears up talking to voters
ABC News: “Her voice breaking and with tears in her eyes, she spoke about how she is passionate about this election and passionate about the country.”
Politico: “I have so many opportunities for this country. I don’t want to see us all fall back,” she said, her voice breaking in the last phrase.
Tribune: “Those in the café, sensing she was getting emotional, applauded.”
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old tricks don't die
last way to get votes is to cry for the votes
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Katzenkavalier
Jan 7th 2008 at 1:40 pm EST
The epitome of phoniness...
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Mike aka Not this Time
Jan 7th 2008 at 1:42 pm EST
just one word!
Iraq
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Yiannis aka Stephen Colber(t) for Vice Presiden(t)
Jan 7th 2008 at 2:05 pm EST
Just one sentence:
No politician who supported the blood-thirsty war of choice has the moral authority to become president.
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yesterday gone
Jan 7th 2008 at 1:47 pm EST
doesn't make up for how we cried when she voted for the war.
bill apologized to rwandans. she needs to do the same to the iraqi people.
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Jan 7th 2008 at 2:45 pm EST
Stay positive as you STAND up for Obama.
This Obama '08 campaign is about being FOR someone (Obama), not being AGAINST someone (Clinton or Edwards).
I repeat myself for exactly that reason -- repetition is good and vitally necessary.
Republicans for years have used repetitive slogans, similar framing messages, etc. to get their ideas ingrained in the minds and thoughts of many Americans.
It's time someone else learn how to do that too.
Obama IMO, all of the candidates this year, has shown the most consistency in his messaging.
It's starting to be ingrained in the thoughts of many Americans now.
(and NH residents who are dems, indys and moderate repubs, please remember to vote tomorrow Tues 1/8/08 for Barack Obama -- for "it ain't over until it's over")
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Jan 7th 2008 at 1:38 pm EST
When OB is sitting at the bus table w/o a coat on in part one, his shirt bunches up at the shoulders.
It makes him look infantile. His head comes off as too small and his clothes not fitting. Watch for this in venues where he might be leaning over thusly.
Good luck from Canada!
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Jan 7th 2008 at 1:38 pm EST
I posted this before...here it is again...DO NOT vote Republican, Dems!
OK...calm down everyone...Auntie Becky has some cookies and chamomile tea for you!
1) Delegates AT THIS PRESENT TIME will not be seated...that is "punishment" from the National DNC last fall.
2) Boy, have things changed since then!
3) We are on a campaign here in MI to make sure that "Non-committed" gets more votes than HRC. Even if she gets the most votes because her name is the only viable one on the ballot, even Bill can't spin that she "won" when she was the only one playing.
4) Come Convention Time, when Barack is the all-but-official nominee, and knowing that even the Republicans are now saying he could win the whole kahuna in November, the DNC will re-visit that "punishment".
5) The DNC cannot afford to "diss" Blue-State MI and "save us this time from the 2000 fiasco" Florida. By Convention Time, there WILL be "less heat, more light"! Trust Barack on that.
6) Plus, the nominee CAN (by the rules) ask that all delegates be seated; and by that time, Barack will be so strong, that the DNC will be saying: "How high do you want us to jump?"
So, in other words...chill, everyone...
In Florida...get the vote out for Barack...you'll have to do his campaigning for him...that'll give his voice a rest!
In Michigan...vote "Non-committed" and make a statement that "N/C" gets more votes than HRC!
Just got an idea...
The rules said BARACK can't campaign in Florida...never said YOU can't!
How about sending some of your friends email links to his speeches and some of those cool supporter-made videos?
Just PLEASE remember, talk ONLY about why someone SHOULD vote for Barack, not bashing against other candidates!
When you're talking to people, and sending links, think: WWOD--What Would Obama Do?
Be strong, be positive, stay on message, but do his campaigning for him!
Train yourself on the issues, but don't get into arguments with people...you know from the debate last Saturday that Barack speaks "softly", but then BAM! The big stick!
That's what this campaign's about anyway...ground operations!!
Let's assure Barack in Michigan and Florida, "Hey, we GOT this!"
FIRED UP!
READY TO GO!
OBAMA '08
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Jan 7th 2008 at 2:25 pm EST
Did I miss something along the way?? What rules say that barack can't campaign in Florida? I knew that the cadidates agreed not to campaign in MI but what is the scoop with florida?? Sorry if this is commmon knowledge.
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Jan 7th 2008 at 1:45 pm EST
Obama Has Triggered a Political Earthquake
Rasmussen Reports has been saying all year that Iowa was a must-win state for Barack Obama. Last Thursday, the Senator from Illinois did what he had to do, delivered a convincing victory, and triggered a political earthquake. He is now poised to win a sizable victory in New Hampshire, a state that Hillary Clinton once considered her firewall. Another pillar of Clinton’s strength in the race—her lead in the national polls—is also crumbling. Monday’s update of the Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll shows Clinton’s advantage shrinking to its lowest level since the very first Presidential debate took place this season, more than eight months ago.
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Jan 7th 2008 at 1:48 pm EST
Daily Democratic Presidential Nomination Tracking Poll
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday shows that Hillary Clinton’s national polling lead has collapsed. Before the Iowa caucuses, Clinton held a seventeen-point lead over Barack Obama. Today, that lead is down to four percentage points in a survey with a four-point margin of sampling error.
In the race for the Democratic Presidential Nomination, it’s now Clinton 33%, Barack Obama 29% and John Edwards 20%
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Jan 7th 2008 at 1:49 pm EST
Obama likes football, so I'm inspired to use some sports analogies.
1. Obama is the Tiger Woods of politics. He's young, but so well-trained and so talented, that he is head and shoulders above the rest.
2. In football, you are only as good as your teammates. You need to work together as a team and you need to learn to get people fighting together for a common purpose. Individual superstars can't win without great teammates who play important roles.
3. In surfing, if you get too focused on your fears, you can't ride the best waves. You have to push into the wave, not away from it, in order to get on top of it.
4. In politics, like in golf, it's easy to get distracted by noises around you. But success comes from being able to block out distractions and do what you've practiced. It's also about learning how to come back after you've made small mistakes so that you keep them from becoming larger mistakes. Barack Obama is showing tremendous ability to play his own game while others are trying to make noise around him.
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Jan 7th 2008 at 1:49 pm EST
Folks,a new thread is up.
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yesterday gone
Jan 7th 2008 at 1:59 pm EST
i saw the dan rather interview where he said that. i don't like that tiger woods analogy. doesn't feel right. this isn't a game. this isn't recreation. i like rather, but he missed on this one.
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Jan 7th 2008 at 1:50 pm EST
“You campaign in poetry, but you govern in prose.” -Hillary Rodham Clinton
She is really starting to get under my skin.
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Jan 7th 2008 at 1:57 pm EST
I like her less and less. And before that I already didn't like her. Hillary splits the Dem Party and the Country. Not what America needs.
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Jan 7th 2008 at 2:04 pm EST
Hillary, Obama is prose poetry.
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Jan 7th 2008 at 1:53 pm EST
Teary Hillary(VIDEO from ABC)
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last effort to get votes !
LOL !
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Judy-Irvine,CA
Jan 7th 2008 at 1:55 pm EST
I heard about this, thanks for the link.
Angry didn't get her votes so now she is going to cry? NOT Presidential. She is not emotionally ready to be a President.
Obama is!!
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Archaeology Jim Hussein
Jan 7th 2008 at 2:10 pm EST
Don't buy it people...Jeeze!
This is an old saying my Mom told me once:
"When in trouble, when in doubt,
run in circles, scream and shout!"
God, if people buy this...wait a minute, they won't...
Obama '08!
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Arizona Grandma - one of many!
Jan 7th 2008 at 2:14 pm EST
It seemed a little insincere to me but I can only imagine how emotional this all must be for her. She has been planning this moment for years and years and years and now it's all falling apart and so is she. I ALMOST feel a little sorry for her and do, indeed, feel sorry for her ardent supporters. Try to have some empathy (remember, that's what Michelle talked about in her speech - that we are lacking empathy). I do believe that Hillary cares about us, but maybe she just cares a little bit more about herself.
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Archaeology Jim Hussein
Jan 7th 2008 at 2:50 pm EST
Oh, I have empathy. That has never been a problem for me.
Sounds to me like her tears today were the beginning of the end in her mind. Her confidence is obviously shot, her polls are way down, and she is facing the huge global movement that is the Obama campaign.
No wonder she is crying...I would be too (just before I threw in the towel).
But like someone said up top: this would be a minor defeat for her in the big picture. Unlike most of us Hillary has miles of padding underneath her.
In Obama We Trust!!!
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Jan 7th 2008 at 2:03 pm EST
Folks, lets stay in the moment. Hillary has more than enough of her own problems for us to dilute our effort and our moment by talking about her.
Hilary has now taken control of her own campaign. It was in chaos. So let's hope she will soon have a dignified exit.
We are doing virtually everythign right and the reason we attact support is the man and his message.
Barack Obama has:
Charima
Compassion
Dedication
an incredible work ethic
and he
connects with people
uplifts them
and we are
all uplifted
and united
and headed toward being America as we can be
no longer
red
or white
but America
and inclusive
and together
we go
where humankind has never been
thank you, thank you
and
give give give
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JQ
Jan 7th 2008 at 2:08 pm EST
I thought she was the tough one, the one who could beat the Republicans. How on earth could she fight the republicans if she crying over Obama (the one she called "the naive, irresponsible") kicking her butt.
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Archaeology Jim Hussein
Jan 7th 2008 at 2:18 pm EST
If I were up against Obama I would probably cry as well (just before I threw in the towel).
Yes, we need to keep marching as if we were 10 points behind just like we have been all year long...
Push This Over The Top People!!!
Donate, donate, donate, donate...
Archaeology Jim in Arizona
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Jen Deep in the Heart
Jan 7th 2008 at 2:26 pm EST
I would like us to try not to pounce on her for this. I doubt very much this was a calculated move. Also, being exhausted and understandably upset doesn't make her any less qualified. As a woman, I'm reminded that in Saudi Arabia women aren't allowed to vote or hold office because they believe women are too emotional and therefore unfit to make tough decisions. I enjoy being catty about Hillary as much as anyone, but I kind of feel sorry for her when I see that video.
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Archaeology Jim Hussein
Jan 7th 2008 at 2:56 pm EST
Jen, Jen...
We are dealing with a calculating, extremely well-seasoned D.C. politician here. In the past three days she has lied about Obama's voting record regarding Iraq and the Patriot Act not counting what she has drudged up otherwise...
The sad thing about someone who chooses to lie is that they breach everyone else's trust: people can then justifiably choose to never trust that person again.
I say we wait until Obama has this thing in the bag before giving her the benifit of the doubt.
In Obama We Trust!
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Jan 7th 2008 at 1:58 pm EST
The daily Rasmussen (4 day tracking) dropped to 4% 33-29-20-2 (C-O-E-R). I guess this would be Jan 3,4,5,6 sampling, so can expect to be ahead in the days after a NH win. Edwards should be dropping also after NH.
I believe Rasmussen calls a significant number of Dem. Leaning Independents, whereas some of the other national pollsters limit to Democrats -explains inconsistencies.
Barack will have to start appearing on many National talk programs. After that, the National (and Feb. 5) polls should turn in our favor very fast.
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Andrew F
Jan 7th 2008 at 2:06 pm EST
i agree with some others. Obama needs to fully express his policy/viewpoint on a specific issue. this can be done w/out attacking a fellow candidate. i've had several ask, 'i love his speeches and they're inspiring. but does he have substance?' I constantly reply, 'yes. check out his website.' But, will they check out his website? Or watch his videos on foreign policy?
i am walking w/ my white cane in support of obama. personally, (as an actor- who has to do this every day) his energy was low on good morning america. i wanted a bit more enthusiasm. more smiles.
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Jan 7th 2008 at 2:07 pm EST
In the next two and a half hours, I have to:
Clean the house, walk the dog, write my Thank you notes for Xmas presents, work on three different fundrasing campaigns and pick up my three boys from school.
Instead, I am checking Obama news and write comments on the NYT blog, defending Obama against hysterical Clinton fans.
God help me, I need to get back to my life!
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Rebecca in Orlando
Jan 7th 2008 at 2:13 pm EST
HA!! I'm with you on that one! Welcome to the crowd! :)
FIRED UP!! READY FOR CHANGE!!
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Petra from Tucson
Jan 7th 2008 at 2:13 pm EST
It's hysteric, not hysterical.
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yesterday gone
Jan 7th 2008 at 2:17 pm EST
ooh, keep us up to date with the nyt blog. i missed that story.
hang in there. we'll have a bit of a breather after tomorrow in the run up to the feb contest.
wait, when is nevada?
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Petra from Tucson
Jan 7th 2008 at 2:29 pm EST
this caucus blog is about Hillary tearing up...
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If you have time, leave a comment - NYT needs a LOT of Obama Love!
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Archaeology Jim Hussein
Jan 7th 2008 at 2:21 pm EST
Petra,
I hear you. I work from home and am babysitting my 9-month-old today. I have managed to finish a report, check barackobama.com, feed my baby boy, check obama.com, print, bind, and mail report, give him milk, check obama.com, feed baby, put him down for a nap, check obama.com, etc. etc....
But ain't it fun!?
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Petra from Tucson
Jan 7th 2008 at 2:41 pm EST
It is : )
Glad you did not forget to feed the baby!
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Jimmy
Jan 7th 2008 at 7:57 pm EST
It's ok. As a stay home dad I do the same things. Barak is just fine. Just watch how he keeps his composure after repeated attacks. A true model of how a human being reacts and should react. I'll keep repeating my favorite quote "If I make a friend of my enemy, have I not defeated him." Abraham Lincoln
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Jan 7th 2008 at 2:08 pm EST
A reminder:
Obama stayed above the attacks in the last debate, when attacked he responded directly to the attack with facts and not in a personal way as he was.
He was presidential and showed the calmness we expect a president to be.
He stayed POSITIVE!
This morning on GMA he again stayed positive:
"He will NOT be drawn into trench warfare."
False hopes, "What would we say if JFK had said we can't go to the moon, it's a false hope."
"I'm not angry at HRC for how she is now campaigning, it's just depressing."
Calm, cool and Presidential!!
In our postings we must do and he does...stay POSITIVE...do not stoop to the cesspool level as others have done.
If someone asks or posts...tell them why we are FOR Obama and not why we are AGAINST someone else. Do not give reason for undecided to go against us!
We have had enough of voting against someone and now have someone we want to vote FOR!
Do as Obama does....Positive, positive, positive -:)...you can see in the polls how positive brings positive results!
Obama 08
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yesterday gone
Jan 7th 2008 at 2:20 pm EST
"false hope" is also what rush limpaugh accused michael j. fox of raising, in campaigning for stem cell research.
nice job hill, echoing rush talking points.
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Jan 7th 2008 at 2:33 pm EST
Stay positive as you STAND up for Obama.
This Obama '08 campaign is about being FOR someone (Obama), not being AGAINST someone (Clinton or Edwards.
I repeat myself for exactly that reason -- repetition is good and vitally necessary.
Republicans for years have used repetitive slogans, similar framing messages, etc. to get their ideas ingrained in the minds and thoughts of many Americans.
It's time someone else learn how to do that too.
Obama IMO, all of the candidates this year, has shown the most consistency in his messaging.
It's starting to be ingrained in the thoughts of many Americans now.
(and NH residents who are dems, indys and moderate repubs, please remember to vote tomorrow Tues 1/8/08 for Barack Obama -- for "it ain't over until it's over")
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Carol-STL-MO
Jan 8th 2008 at 1:20 am EST
Lawrence,
POSITIVE, & staying POSITIVE is what is going to give Obama positive results---in every state!!!
America is electing a LEADER with OBAMA...(not a politican)
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Joe from Menlo Park, CA
Jan 7th 2008 at 6:20 pm EST
the delegates there will not count anyway...
by the way - as another way to SPREAD THE WORD, check out:
www.obamatags.com ->
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if you have a myspace, or hi5 or friendser/facebook - it's another great way to help get the word & enthusiasm out about Obama!
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Odin
Jan 7th 2008 at 7:15 pm EST
Im not a conspericy theorist and don't want to bug anyone but who exactly has said that they won't count? has the decition been made or is it going to be made and by whom? Is it water tight? whats the deal here?
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Jan 7th 2008 at 2:18 pm EST
Early on in the campaign Obama answered a question about Hillary. He said she is very intelligent and has good work ethics. That may not be his exact words, but how I remember it. When she started attacking him, I found her very ungracious and unlikeable.
She believes, she said in a debate, the government needs to lie to the people. She knows how lying about others can win her support. She probably got experience in how to lie convincingly from living with her husband.
Why do these interviewers not ask about how Hillary expects homeless people to buy health insurance? What government penalty will be imposed upon, perhaps a Native American who does not use conventional medicines? Do we, the people, have the right to make our own choices?
Hillary is an attack dog and the part of the change this person wants to see in the White House. Her kind gone. I am starting to find her as unlikable as GWB/Cheney are.
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yesterday gone
Jan 7th 2008 at 2:21 pm EST
the president of insurance firm AETNA loves hillary's plan. can you believe it?
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Bryan
Jan 7th 2008 at 3:05 pm EST
Of course the insurance companies love her plan! Everyone HAS to buy health insurance from them. Imagine the boom for health insurance companies with a government mandate. Obama's plan forces the health care and insurance industry to figure out how to do things better, cheaper, and more effeciently, with a possible madate in the future once the policies are more affordable.
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rich
Jan 7th 2008 at 2:28 pm EST
Stay positive as you STAND up for Obama.
I repeat myself for exactly that reason -- repetition is good and vitally necessary.
Republicans for years have used repetitive slogans, similar framing messages, etc. to get their ideas ingrained in the minds and thoughts of many Americans.
It's time someone else learn how to do that too.
Obama IMO, all of the candidates this year, has shown the most consistency in his messaging.
It's starting to be ingrained in the thoughts of many Americans now.
(and NH residents who are dems, indys and moderate repubs, please remember to vote tomorrow Tues 1/8/08 for Barack Obama -- for "it ain't over until it's over")
Handy Primary Reference |
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JD from Seal Beach, CA
Jan 7th 2008 at 2:40 pm EST
Here is a handy reference to the primary from Wikipedia so you can keep track of the delegates
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Note the significance of Tsunami Tuesday Feb 5. 1688 delegates up for selection out of 4049 total.(370 in California alone)
We need to be mindful of the opportunty for Hilary's campaign to right its ship in one day. Her political machine already has lined up a number of the delegates preassigned to DNC members and elected officials. Don't be fooled by reports of her dropping out. The democrat regulars are threatened by Barack. They will contine to organize against him. It happened in 1968 against RFK and Gene McCarthy. With RFKs assassination and McCarthy campaign losing focus at the end, Humphrey and the democratic establishment hijacked the nomination, leading to the election of Richard Nixon.
We cannot rely on past success. That is the mantra of the Hilary campaign. We need to focus on these states now, especially if you live in one of them.
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JD from Seal Beach, CA
Jan 7th 2008 at 2:58 pm EST
MSNBC reports: Clinton campaign has already made 400,000 calls in California.
Hit the phones! Call your friends.
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Barack from Fairfax, VA
Jan 7th 2008 at 2:44 pm EST
Poll update:
New Hampshire Poll Average: Obama +7.8
National Poll Average: Clinton +4 (which is good, as she was up by about 11 four days ago)
The affect of the hope-mongerers in Iowa can be felt from coast to coast!
Obama '08
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Lawrence
Jan 7th 2008 at 2:47 pm EST
HEADLINE: HILLARY CRYS...
But this comes out on Wednesday after she losses the election to Obama... GO BARACK!!!
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rich
Jan 7th 2008 at 3:00 pm EST
Lawrence -
I'm a bit surprised at your comment here about CRIES, especially since you've been touting staying positive on this blog and I say "Amen!" to that touting.
Well, for me positive is twofold:
1) positive that Obama will win;
2) not attacking other candidates, rather talking up about Obama's strengths, principles, etc.
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Stay positive as you STAND up for Obama.
I repeat myself for exactly that reason -- repetition is good and vitally necessary.
Republicans for years have used repetitive slogans, similar framing messages, etc. to get their ideas ingrained in the minds and thoughts of many Americans.
It's time someone else learn how to do that too.
Obama IMO, all of the candidates this year, has shown the most consistency in his messaging.
It's starting to be ingrained in the thoughts of many Americans now.
(and NH residents who are dems, indys and moderate repubs, please remember to vote tomorrow Tues 1/8/08 for Barack Obama -- for "it ain't over until it's over")
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rich
Jan 7th 2008 at 3:04 pm EST
Lawrence - FL :
I apologize for getting you mixed up with another Lawrence on this blog -- Lawrence of Fargo, ND.
You might want to scroll upthread here in this blog entry to see what the Lawrence in Fargo has to say about being "positive".
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rich
Jan 7th 2008 at 3:07 pm EST
typo - Lawrence of Fargo, ND
s/b - Lawrence from Fargo, ND
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here's an example of staying positive (from upthread):
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A reminder:
Obama stayed above the attacks in the last debate, when attacked he responded directly to the attack with facts and not in a personal way as he was.
He was presidential and showed the calmness we expect a president to be.
He stayed POSITIVE!
This morning on GMA he again stayed positive:
"He will NOT be drawn into trench warfare."
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Front Page Fact Check... Now |
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N. Julio Barthson - E-Campaign Leader
Jan 7th 2008 at 3:23 pm EST
I just returned from canvassing for a couple of days in Las Vegas and I can't help but throw my full support for a front page button to the FACT CHECK page. I met many independents and even Democrats who still believe that Barack does not say the Pledge of Allegiance, and that he wants to force kindergartens to teach sex education.
I must admit that in all of those circumstances, I was able to patiently tell the truth and finally convince the voters to sign pledge cards to caucus for Barack on January 19th; but I learnt from that experience that an abundance of caution would not be wrong by being proactive with our FACTS out there on the forefront. That would go a long way to help in debunking rumors.
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Tammy
Jan 7th 2008 at 3:26 pm EST
We've been making that request since the site went online. I hope someone is hearing (reading) us.
You cannot expect new folks to search around looking for that site. If I didn't have it bookmarked I would never find it.
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tja
Jan 7th 2008 at 4:35 pm EST
It is fair to say that after seeing this interview with Diane Sawyer, it is the first time I have been disappointed in you, Barack. Instead of taking this as an opportunity to answer the questions, you dodged them.
Please provide a clear answer to the two fundamental questions:
1. Why did you vote for the Patriot Act?
2. Why did you vote to fund the war? (when everyone knows that the "power of the purse" is the only real way that Congress can disrupt the current course of the war.)
This isn't to suggest that there can't be legitimate reasons for your actions... but these reasons need to be spelled out.
This ties in to what you talk about when say "judgement matters more than experience". So was it "good judgement" in choosing to vote "yes" in both instances and if so, why?
Don't let ambiguity hinder your glorious ability to inspire!
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JC from CA
Jan 7th 2008 at 6:50 pm EST
I agree. I also felt that he came across a bit cocky. I did not like the comment about HRC's campaign appearing "depressing". It's not very gracious to kick someone when their down, and that is how that comment seemed to me. I don't mean to be negative, just offering some constructive criticism.
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Jimmy
Jan 7th 2008 at 7:39 pm EST
Is it reasonable to want a member of senate to approve funds during war that a president ordered. After serving 20 years in the USAF I would say YES!. Is it permissible that a lobbyist be allowed our civil freedom to work in a campaign for a politician. After serving 20 years to promote our freedoms I would say YES! Finally, after 20 long years is it respectable and healthy to disagree with others political views? I would say YES! But, then again, that’s what I was taught we were fighting for!!!!!!!!!!!
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tja
Jan 7th 2008 at 9:12 pm EST
Jimmy,
I'm not quite sure what your point is. I'm not disputing the vote. I'm just saying, if Hilary is going to use those "yes" votes as a means to question Barack's authenticity of his position against the Iraq war (yet voting "yes" to fund the war) and being against the Bush administration's assault on civil liberty (yet voting "yes" to the Patriot Act), then it seems to me he should take a moment to tackle this head on and provide a succinct, lucid explanation that helps reconcile the seeming paradox. Wouldn't you agree?
The Patriot Act Information |
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Nicole Lewis from Austin, TX
Jan 7th 2008 at 8:09 pm EST
Hello fellow Obama supporters! I'm looking for the information about Obama and the truth about the Patroit Act. Someone posted it last night but I can't find it now. Could someone post it for me, I would really appreciate it! Thanks so much!
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Jimmy
Jan 7th 2008 at 8:29 pm EST
Yes, please! Because the disinformative information presented to the Amercian People and their representatives will certainly be interesting reading.
Hillary's Sister Soulja Strategy |
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Fran from Chico, CA
Jan 7th 2008 at 8:46 pm EST
According to Hillary and her supporters Obama is not black as Bill Clinton, has not slept with enough black women and according to Hillary, hasn’t done enough “spadework” to be a real black President. Get prepared for a weepy Hillary and the white bible to hit South Carolina black churches.
Hillary won't say it, will Barack |
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Joe from Auburn, ME
Jan 7th 2008 at 8:47 pm EST
The Republican machine is in full motion. Pushing for an Obama primary win by trashing Hillary and staying away from Obama. The reality is, republicans are afraid of Hillary and truly believes America is still racist enough not to elect a black candidate for president. That’s right, Republicans believe Democrats will put a black candidate in the race but when the curtain closes, the majority of voters, Republicans and Democrats, will not put a black man in the White House.
Telling it like I see it,
Why can’t Hillary? It would be the truth, and we could respect her for saying it, but she would never.
Say it Barack, the biggest difference between you and Hillary Clinton is race, black & white. Every black knows it and every white knows it. I personally would love to see a black man such as Barack Obama in the white house, and I will vote that way if he is the Democratic candidate for President, but in my heart I believe my vote will be in vain. Although they won’t admit it, when the curtain closes, the majority of my friends, neighbors, co-workers and news anchors favorites are still racist enough to put anyone of the 5 Republican candidates in the whit house instead of a black man.
Tell me I'm wrong, bro John
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Jimmy
Jan 7th 2008 at 8:57 pm EST
ok. I'll tell you. You're wrong. WE are a new generation. WE will take back this country. WE will be compassionate, caring, and committed to this world. WE will WIN. Barak 08
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Mo Justice, Mo Peace
Jan 7th 2008 at 11:31 pm EST
Wow! Everyone never mind this. Take the high road. This is the kind of thinking that has kept America spinning it's wheels. Fortunately, only a few people think this way. Just ignore it. By the way have you seen how FOX news attacks Obama? You don't do that unless you're scared.
Go Obama '08
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Mo Justice, Mo Peace
Jan 7th 2008 at 11:38 pm EST
Wow! Everyone never mind this. Take the high road. This is the kind of thinking that has kept America spinning it's wheels. Fortunately, only a few people think this way. Just ignore it. By the way have you seen how FOX news attacks Obama? You don't do that unless you're scared.
Go Obama '08
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Jimmy
Jan 7th 2008 at 8:58 pm EST
oh. almost forgot. white male over 48
Crying hilary |
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RobynM
Jan 7th 2008 at 10:23 pm EST
I can't believe Hilary has sank so low and is using her tears to get votes.I bet the question was planted.
WE'VE HEARD THIS SONG BEFORE |
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Vincent Williams
Jan 21st 2008 at 2:24 pm EST
But I want to say one thing to the American people: I want you to listen to me. I'm gonna say this again: "I did not tell lies about that man--Mr. Obama; I never told anybody to lie--not a single time--never." These allegations are false, and I need to go back to work for Hillary's campaign.
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Vincent Williams
Jan 21st 2008 at 2:27 pm EST
But I want to say one thing to the American people: I want you to listen to me. I'm gonna say this again: "I did not tell lies about that man--Mr. Obama; I never told anybody to lie--not a single time--never." These allegations are false, and I need to go back to work for Hillary's campaign.
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