Organizing for America | David Plouffe's Blog: Hillary Attacks

We are in | Report to Admin

By TOBBY Dec 3rd 2007 at 8:31 am EST

Thank you David for your vibrant, skillful and steadfastness--we are here with you and you will always count on us. Don't worry, Barack has zillions of foot soldiers all across the country and we will do what the civil society is required to do: nail driven the coffins of liars with their lies. We are resonate and ready to go. We did it last week with one Perry Bacon who works for Washington Post.

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By Lisa7n99 Dec 3rd 2007 at 8:36 am EST

Please go public with your rebuttals. not just on the site. when I look up Barack's name on google, the only stories that come up these days are attacks from Clinton. This influences people. Please call her on her crap in public. Thanks for posting this. I will keep my eye out.

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By Asmeret, a proud member of the Millennium Movement that will deliver Obama to the White House Dec 3rd 2007 at 8:45 am EST

I second Lisa-I google Obama every 2 hours and all
I see are stories about Obama with headlines that try and negatively pull readers in.

I will be emailing you HQ with those stories every two hours.

Asmeret

IN OBAMA WE TRUST

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By Ethel Dec 3rd 2007 at 9:23 am EST

I agree. He needs to go public with the responses. I have been googling to and I see negatives. We need him to come back in the media fast and direct. He need to make sure his responses are very hard when he hits back. They should be with evidence to dispute her attacks.

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By Bien-Aime Dec 3rd 2007 at 9:37 am EST

Agree. They did a PR. We should do our own PR with the response.

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By Obama for President Dec 3rd 2007 at 12:14 pm EST

I agree, we need to be vigilant about all the negative PR her campaign puts out and RESPOND VIA SAME MEDIA so the people who gets exposed to those negative information have access to the correct information through the SAME mechanism, as that is their choice of media, otherwise they may get influenced by negative information and won't have other side of the story. Also, something to consider is to put out multiple posts of same information as Google and other search engines sometimes go by HOW MANY TIMES the information appears and that is what will bubble up. This is were Obama supporters can help in getting the correct information posted to as many blogs as possible. At the end, this is only going to hurt Hillary.

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By Pilar from Iowa Dec 3rd 2007 at 12:42 pm EST

Do people in Iowa have a reputation of being stupid? I can assure you we are not. We can tell what attacks are true or not. Everyone I encounter while wearing my Obama button smile and say they like Obama. Now, getting them to the caucuses is a different story. Obama is so inspirational that he moves people to do things they have never done before. He moved me to do things that I never did in my long life. OBAMA WILL WIN IOWA!

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By ☞Aunt Becky☜ ... Blogyenta: "I kvetch, therefore I am." Dec 3rd 2007 at 12:15 pm EST

Bless you, Asmeret!

Auntie B.

Countering Hill-hate. | Report to Admin

By Amy Dec 3rd 2007 at 9:51 am EST

I agree. Get the campaign net-wizards to work on the internet search results. Probably the most important internet-related consequence of all this attacking. People who read the blogs know what's up. People who are searhing online for info about Barack for the first or second time probably don't.

Re: Countering Hill-hate. | Report to Admin

By Robert Boardman Dec 3rd 2007 at 10:57 am EST

I DO like the idea of countering Hillary's lies swiftly and forcefully.
I also like the idea of countering in some public way, not just on this site -- so that others who are not plugged in to Obama will get the message that she is desperate, and that this is the very kind of political machine we need to put an end to.

All of us are familiar with the cliche "The best defense is a good offense" and I think instead of getting sucked into a petty battle with HRC (though it is necessary to respond with the truth, swiftly), I think the "offense" part of the cliche should be centered on the issues and addressing the American people. This is how Warren Buffet selects companies and stocks, based on real value, and not on hype. And I think the American people will follow likewise when they realize that Obama is the truly substantial candidate, focused on the needs of the American people, who is honest, trustworthy, and resilient.

We're all with you Barack, all the way to the White House!

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By Kevin from Mishawaka, IN Dec 3rd 2007 at 9:20 am EST

Why not have Barack in the next debate ask Hillary to put a moratorium on personal attacks as Barack will do the same?

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By Amy Dec 3rd 2007 at 9:53 am EST

No one attacked Hillary personally in this campaign to date. But Hillary is ruthless and desperate. She's going to do what she wants to do, not what she says she'll do.

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By Kevin from Mishawaka, IN Dec 3rd 2007 at 10:01 am EST

Yep. You're absolutely right. That's why I thought Barack stating it openly in a debate with Hillary, would put her in an extremely uncomfortable position because I think Hillary has too much too lose by not resorting to negative attacks which I think is par for the course. Barack ought to posture himself, and put himself in a position where he can go.."See, I told everyone that the Washinton insiders such as Hillary have nothing to say concretely about the problems and issues that affect America," and Barack needs to stay on track with offering a proactive message for Americans and not the same old personal aatack diversions which has so become a part of American politics, especially amongst the Republicans.

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By FMDNA20-30-50 Dec 3rd 2007 at 12:07 pm EST

A desparate candidate's house built on lies will collapse on it's own.. just ask the Bush administration about the Iraq war being built on lies.you have to keep lying and then you forget what you said earlier ..
Barack should continue to take the high road on this and not be distracted by trying to defend or chase HOT AIR.ATTACKS...He responded to the attack now it's time to get back on message. We have the best candidate with the best message so let's keep working and staying positive..
Obama 08..
FM

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By Charlotte in Newmarket NH Dec 3rd 2007 at 11:10 am EST

When will Hillary realize that in her attacks on Obama and the other Democrats she is just working for the Republicans? The elephants can sit back arms folded and laugh as the donkeys eat each other up? Just Say No Negative Campaigning, Hillary. Hill -it takes a village to raise a president.

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By Valroide Dec 3rd 2007 at 10:39 am EST

Hello People, remember no distractations. Keep Your eye on the prize. Mama said, 'Sticks and Stones will break Our bones, but, Names, Names, Names, Never Hurt Nobody. What She is trying, to no avail, is trying to take Our Mind off of what We are doing.

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By Kevin from Mishawaka, IN Dec 3rd 2007 at 11:01 am EST

"Striking a pose of being high-minded and too pure will not work."-The words of Karl Rove reflecting how truly cynical politics has become in America. God forbid that should have high mindness, purity and clarity on the issues. This attitude right here is what has driven citizens from the political process, including myself for the last 15 years because no one believes our public servants can be honest, forthright and high minded in politics anymore. If Americans vote on the forthcoming negative ads from Hillary Clinton, then the American people deserve the president they will get. This is the same mentality of political cynicism that kept George W Bush in the presidential office and I am ver, very tired of it!!!

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By Irma Dec 3rd 2007 at 11:41 am EST

Good Job David!
THANK YOU for staying on top of Hillary's attacks. HRC'S attacks on Sen. Obama will only drive his supporters to work harder to elect him as OUR NEXT PRESIDENT!!

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By Lisa7n99 Dec 3rd 2007 at 1:49 pm EST

BARACK and COMPANY: Please mention her use of funds for Tom Vilsack around the time he endorsed Hillary. If I am correct, what she gave to him was more than what Obama has given through the HOPEFund in total...

these are the type of factual corrections we need more of. direct and to the point. put the ball in her court.

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By Yiannis aka Stephen Colber(t) for Vice Presiden(t) Dec 3rd 2007 at 1:59 pm EST

Be it through Novak, Carville, or in person Clinton's politicking will move to a new level:

Barack needs to point out that:

1) Hillary demonizes whoever disagrees with her on healthcare. That's exactly why her efforts failed in the 90s. She think her view is the only truth.

2) Hillary is mudslinging with the Hopefund PAC two weeks after accusing Edwards of doing the same.

3) We need to move away from PRECISELY these kind of politics.

The more she attacks the more she reminds people of the extreme divisions of the last 15 years.

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By Lud Abigail from Brooklyn, NY Dec 3rd 2007 at 2:09 pm EST

Here is an interesting article about HR attacks on our candidate. From an insider: Link

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By Lud Abigail from Brooklyn, NY Dec 3rd 2007 at 2:23 pm EST

I would like to point out this link from an expert about HR lies. Why is HRC stooping So Low?
Link

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By Ethel Dec 3rd 2007 at 8:34 am EST

You are ever so right. We need to respond in force whenever someone try to smear Obama.

Chris Matthews tells Merideth on the Today show. | Report to Admin

By MarkkraM Dec 3rd 2007 at 8:34 am EST

Chris Matthews just told Merideth on the TODAY show that it is the year of non-politicians. He said Huckabee is likeable, he doesn't look or sound like a politician, Romney is a Ken doll and too clean, HILARY Is a politician and unlikeable, AND OBAMA is fresh And Chris feels America is wants CHANGE.
CHANGE hasn't that been our theme all along.
The media is closely watching us, so now IS the time to shine with POSITIVENESS and HAPPINESS.

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By Kerri from PA Dec 3rd 2007 at 8:57 am EST

Yea to Chris Matthews! A postive for Obama!!!

Re: Chris Matthews tells Merideth on the Today show. | Report to Admin

By ♋Tanner♋ Dec 3rd 2007 at 9:09 am EST

Chris Matthews was also on Morning Joe this morning and said that Hillary is attacking because they know something the general public doesn't know. He was saying that the HRC campaign must have done some internal polling and Barack is doing VERY well in Iowa. That is why the barrage of attacks.

Let's be vigilant. We have Barack's back!

OBAMA '08

Re: Chris Matthews tells Merideth on the Today show. | Report to Admin

By Brian S. Dec 3rd 2007 at 11:31 am EST

I think Obama's going to do MUCH better in Iowa than any of these polls suggest...I think it's going to be shocking...and a HUGE media story...

Great idea for the rapidresponse website and e-mail address...Hope OBAMA stays mostly positive and ON MESSAGE though...Hillary will be and IS her own undoing...with a little help from Bill, of course!

Re: Chris Matthews tells Merideth on the Today show. | Report to Admin

By Obama-logue Dec 3rd 2007 at 11:33 am EST

Well, the "general public" on this blog has known all along!! The best candidate in this race is, hands down, Barack Obama. Now the rest of the country is slowly, but surely, realizing that. GO OBAMA!!!!!

Morning Joe | Report to Admin

By Ethel Dec 3rd 2007 at 8:38 am EST

On the morning Joe They were trying to say Obama was asking people to go to Iowa to caucus for him. They also stated that Iowans would get mad at him because he was trying to bring in outsiders to vote in Iowa. Obama needs to hit back hard on this one and correct Joe and the others.

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By JP - VA 4 OBAMA Dec 3rd 2007 at 9:07 am EST

I watch this show also and find it very frustrating. They went on to say that Hillary made a mistake saying "now the fun starts." The part that upset me was they talked about Hillary's claim out about the PAC fund, but didn't take 30 seconds to give Baracks response, especially since the PAC fund has given money to HER Supporters or should I say those that have endorsed her.

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By Brian S. Dec 3rd 2007 at 11:04 am EST

Yes - she really showed her true colors with the "fun" statement!!! How pathetic and petty...

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By Reggie; Who Just Signed Up For An 8 Year Tour Of "O"-Duty!!! Dec 3rd 2007 at 3:06 pm EST

Have you all heard/seen Hillary's latest outrageous statment at an Iowa stop?:

Clinton said she wanted to win the caucuses — and, next year, push the state into the Democratic column in the general election.

“I want a long term relationship,” she said. “I don’t want to just have a one night stand with all of you.”

Sexual innuendo in a presidential campaign?? Where did this come from??!!

here's the link:

Link

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By bluecat Dec 3rd 2007 at 10:40 am EST

The best way to stop the BS, is not to view them spewing it. Ratings count, so turn to something else and screen for Hill Attacks. Leave the right wing stations to talk the Limbaugh jargon among themselves, since when do they have a touch of what the American people are feeling. They've sided with their media spinmasters to keep the garbage flying. Whenever they get negative toward our candidate, turn the channel, if it turns you off. It works.

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By IowaMom Dec 3rd 2007 at 10:59 am EST

If this comes up again on Morning Joe or anywhere else, please note that Barack can't "bring in people" from other states to caucus. The only people eligible to caucus are Iowa residents who are registered to vote.

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By marytnurse, supporting Barack Obama until I see his library built on donations from We The People Dec 3rd 2007 at 11:46 am EST

lol and we would have talked to them already....

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By Marbwi Dec 3rd 2007 at 2:31 pm EST

You can leave an email response to Joe Scab(bottom right on screen):

click
Link

You can respond with info from this site or link it to him:

click
Link

Bloggers Against Hillary Attacks | Report to Admin

By Asmeret, a proud member of the Millennium Movement that will deliver Obama to the White House Dec 3rd 2007 at 8:48 am EST

Also someone should start a fundraising page especially for Hillary just like Bloggers Against
Intentional Discouragement.We should name it Bloggers Against Hillary Attacks so for every Hillary attack on Obama, we donate.A win-win situation because she will continue to self-distruct the more Iowans see her attacks and switch off from her.GM or any other who is an excellent fundraiser could do this.

Asmeret

IN OBAMA WE TRUST

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By Asmeret, a proud member of the Millennium Movement that will deliver Obama to the White House Dec 3rd 2007 at 9:03 am EST

We knew it would get ugly soon,we knew what we were witnessing on the ground would soon reflect in the polls.Knowing shes lost Iowa,she will attempt to drag us down to her level so anyone but Obama wins Iowa.The level to which she has stooped only highlights how devastating an Iowa Obama win will be for her-The sheer momemtum that it will create for us,the sheer rejection and defections she will experience from the African American communities who see that this time a brilliant man who happens to be black CAN BE PRESIDENT if he works hard and honestly for it.

Wow,HER ACTION SPEAKS VOLUMES! WE KNOW KNOW FOR SURE!WE KNOW WE NEED TO WIN IOWA WITH A LANDSLIDE,WE SHOULD USE THESE ATTACKS TO MOTIVATE US TO SHOW HER EXACTLY HOW MUCH WE WANT OBAMA-LIKE THE DES MOINES MAYORS LANDSLIDE LETS GET OBAMA 80% OR MORE IN THE IOWA CAUCUS.

I KNOW WE CAN DO IT.IOWA IS THE KEY TO THE NOMINATION.WE GET IOWA,WE GET THE REST-THE MOMENTUM BEHIND THIS EXTRA-ORDINARY MAN WILL EVEN
AFFECT THE WORLDS ATTENTION AS THEY WILL ALSO USE IOWA-A SMALL UNREPRESENTATIVE BUT INFORMED STATE TO SEE IF OBAMA CAN DO IT!

FIRED UP! READY TO GO!

Asmeret

IN OBAMA WE TRUST

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By Kerri from PA Dec 3rd 2007 at 9:18 am EST

Asmeret (or anyone else)
Can you explain to me why/how Iowa is first and why other states are not allowed to go before Feb 5th? and why they have actually punished states - taking away their delgates for scheduling their primaries earlier? Also, I read somewhere recently that CA has a large population of absentee voters and they will receive many of those ballets before Feb. 5th as they will mailed out on Jan. 7th and what that would/could tell us?

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By Jeremy Dec 3rd 2007 at 9:48 am EST

Really, it's all a matter of tradition and organization. Tradition is, Iowa or New Hampshire goes first, because it's in their state constitution. Also, the game of leapfrog could ultimately bring the nomination much much earlier if it weren't controlled, by stripping delegates from states that don't comply with the schedule from the DNC. If things were going to change, it would take federal law to change the system.

California voting early could help prevent the early states from affecting it, which is bad for us, because we want to ride the momentum off an Iowa win. However, I am sure that enough of the population votes on February 5th to make it be a campaign stopping issue.

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By Kerri from PA Dec 3rd 2007 at 10:22 am EST

Thanks Jeremy!

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By Julia from Pasadena Dec 3rd 2007 at 10:26 am EST

They don't count the absentee votes before Feb 5th. So even if they go out in January, it won't influence the Iowa caucus.

By the way, the campaign has directed us to be calling the absentee voters in California, we (here in CA) are all going through our congressional district lists and making thousands of phone calls.

California is OBAMA country.

You don't even see any Hillary bumperstickers around, even though she gives them out free on her website.

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By Lynn Dec 3rd 2007 at 11:37 am EST

Canvassed yesterday and making calls tonight in CA. We constantly tell them to check out the website, so this site is very important. Many are cynical about the entire process. Most are undecided. We need to focus on Senator Obama's plan for change. Consider this practice for things to come from the GOP.

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By bluecat Dec 3rd 2007 at 11:59 am EST

The States were pushing for a crunch to find out quicker result, don't know why but it went back and forth for about a month, some states wanted to move for the momentum. That's what I got out of it anyway, but like with Barack "The new up and coming candidate" his name wasn't known as the others who have been there in DC, stalling bills.As the campaign month went along, the American people began to blog against it and only Michigan did so, which was against the rules of the Party, majority rules and they didn't listen.

Anyway it was the neo-con agenda to find out sooner than Nov, by pushing the states to move their dates. They are even trying to change the rules in California, through a Trudy Guiliani Republican donor. Pulling strings early eh TRudy?

Americans are not you personnal marionette dolls to toy with during our election, and if I'm not mistaken it border on obstruction or something to that nature. Always pushing loop holes to escape, the rats!

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By bluecat Dec 3rd 2007 at 11:00 am EST

She wants to punish Obama, for speaking the truth and pointing out the flip-flop responses, in certain areas of the country.
She wants to attack because of Bill and her record in the White House and the fact she votes differently from the people's message for change the course?

Schizo man, totally spazing out on Obama, when it's their record and baggage, we don't want interfering with the People's business of getting this country and the world in a better state that it is now. S.O.S Stuck On Stupid is what they think Americans are and they can do anything they want when in power.

Well we don't have to vote for another twenty years of middle Eastern instability in persuit of Bin Laden and Al Queida. We are in the wrong country and must give it back to their own government, to ensure trust and stability after pre-emtively striking and occupying the country, with lies as the front line of our defense of it.

We Americans have to right these wrongs, we cannot allow the Oil Companies to take 2/3rds of their oil revenue in their coffers, leaving only a third to divy between the three tribal sects.
Sure they will resolve their ethnic problems as we have solved ours, through unity in rebuilding their own country, with the revenues, Sadaam Hussein no longer controls.

Train the Iraqi troops with equal volunteers from all three sects stateside, on a base here, to promote unity in the effort to return Iraq to Iraqi's and the battle to keep Al Queida from taking control, which the Iraqi people are dead set against. As our troops stand down, they stand up and this will take approximately, 12 to 14 months to secure a number of forces equal to our numbers now committed and active. Eight troop battallions 2 US tour rest return, 2 Shia volunteer, 2 Sunni, and 2 Kurdish. Six battallions return, rotating until we have them in sufficient numbers to hold it down. With the numbers up they will have the oil revenues to pay each and every volunteer Iraqi soldier, a decent wage, to defend against Bin Rottens Regime.
Sadaam is Dead! Let the rebuilding of Iraq begin, with annual payments to the US for removal of Sadaam who used chemical weapons on his people.
End of story.
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

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By Jeremy Dec 3rd 2007 at 9:12 am EST

Yeah, like a, "I Donated because Hillary lied" page so she can see how much her lies are worth.

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By Kerri from PA Dec 3rd 2007 at 9:15 am EST

I like it!

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By Nancy M. Dec 3rd 2007 at 10:55 am EST

Asmeret, why not use the bloggers against intentional discouragement group for this? We could update the group description to make it more inclusive.

It's all the same thing - instead of working FOR something or someone, they are using their energy and resources working AGAINST something or someone.

That's true whether it's individuals who come to the Obama site with the intention to discourage and distract or whether it comes from another campaign whose purpose is to distract from the issues and play games with the future of America.

People could make a donation and then (if they wanted) could post a comment on the fundraising group blog to reference exactly what it was that spurred them to donate.

If people are interested, I will set up the blog thread for posts about what spurred you to donate.

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By Michele from Huntington Beach, CA Dec 3rd 2007 at 11:20 am EST

Good idea, Nancy. I'll donate to that!

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By marytnurse, supporting Barack Obama until I see his library built on donations from We The People Dec 3rd 2007 at 11:48 am EST

I have just such a fund raising page! That's why I started mine, put in the first $10 for the only two HRC supporters I could find.

"America, Our Moment is NOW!" "Let's go change the world!" Link

Dream | Report to Admin

By royalarc Dec 3rd 2007 at 8:49 am EST

I had a dream last night. Not to paraphrase "Martin Luther King Jr.", but I really did have a dream. I was the POTUS and didn't know what the hell I was doing. Man things was in chaos. Osama Bin Laden was mayor of Montana (can you believe that) and planning an terroist attack. Barack Obama whispered in my ear, "Why don't you let me handle it." Thats all I remembered. Man that was crazy. Any thoughts????

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By royalarc Dec 3rd 2007 at 8:50 am EST

I meant Governer of Montana

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By Jean Dec 3rd 2007 at 10:23 am EST

True to form. Let Obama handle it.

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By Kerri from PA Dec 3rd 2007 at 9:00 am EST

At least I know I'm not the only one with weird dreams! A few weeks ago I had a dream that I met a black man (I'm white) in a theater and we kept leaning into each other to kiss - and I'm very happily married - but we never kissed! didn't recognize the man, but my best friend kept joking with me that I was following Obama too much!! :) She's Hillary supporter, but I'm working on her!!!

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By royalarc Dec 3rd 2007 at 9:13 am EST

Now that's funny!!!

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By A Rebirth Dec 3rd 2007 at 9:46 am EST

Hi Kerri - I think we all do have a secret 'crush' on Senator Obama; why not, he is dreamy after all! He is very easy to (fall in love with) admire because of what he stands for - which is what many of us stand for and want in life, don't you think? Keep on dreaming, GF! After all, dreams are things to look forward to even if they are a stretch. Hope = Imagination = Dreams = Possibility = Action = a new America! Cheers!

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By meta Dec 3rd 2007 at 10:21 am EST

Some friends of mine asked me the other day what kind of guy I would be interested in and I surprised myself by saying without skipping a beat - someone who would vote for Barack Obama!

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By Kerri from PA Dec 3rd 2007 at 10:27 am EST

He is a good looking man! hee hee hee and I'll also add, his wife is gorgeous - his daughters, adorable and I think they would make the most beautiful first family!!

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By ☞Aunt Becky☜ ... Blogyenta: "I kvetch, therefore I am." Dec 3rd 2007 at 12:27 pm EST

In dreams you can do anything you want. You were only KISSING him??? What's WRONG with you!

rotflmao

Love and hugs,
Auntie B.

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By Kerri from PA Dec 3rd 2007 at 1:20 pm EST

AUNT BECKY!!! BLUSH BLUSH BLUSH.... I don't even know if it was Barack!!! :)

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By bluecat Dec 3rd 2007 at 11:13 am EST

That's what we're gonna do as Americans, electing a president that will go to the right battlefield with a strategic plan to get Bin Laden. The war has been fought cockeyed since it started, with military increased to stabilize and the government, not sitting down to break bread together. I remember a clip of achive that C-SPAN had where a black military representatives during the Israeli conflict of the forties or fifties, I forget, but he sat them before some China plates and settings of granduer, then he said if you can come to a peaceful resolution, I'll give each of you a set to go home with. If not the meeting is over and we will not praticipate or back either of you. It worked to be concise in message and firm. Yet peaceful in your presentation. Look at how china does business, their not shouting i'll blow you up if we disagree.
We caould take a lesson from China on that aspect and present a true American Representative of common sense and elect Barack Obama for President in 08.

No more drama, Vote for Obama!

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By Tammy Dec 3rd 2007 at 11:42 am EST

You didn't have a dream, you had a nightmare.

Thank God Sen. Obama was there to help you out. lol

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By Bradley Dec 3rd 2007 at 12:12 pm EST

It was a nightmare. Then Obama stepped in, and it became a wonderful dream.

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By ☞Aunt Becky☜ ... Blogyenta: "I kvetch, therefore I am." Dec 3rd 2007 at 12:23 pm EST

Here's my take... dreams are sometimes symbols of things that are going on in our own personal lives. Perhaps you're in a position of authority that's causing you stress and you're afraid of screwing up. Maybe your "higher self" was telling you to do what you think Obama would do.

Just a thought...

Auntie B.

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By Julia Dec 3rd 2007 at 8:57 am EST

Not that i doubt it for a second, but does anyone have a link to the article/press release where HRC said this was the fun part?

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By fran Dec 3rd 2007 at 9:00 am EST

They just quoted it on Morning Joe but i didn't note the source.

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By blackcat Dec 3rd 2007 at 9:13 am EST

Okay--"the fun part" is easy to find (NYTs and TWP) but where is the quote about telling his teacher what he wanted to be when he grew up and what did he say? POTUS?

thanks!

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By blackcat Dec 3rd 2007 at 9:43 am EST

Okay I found it --it is on her Web site. Obama did write an essay on wanting to become a president when he was in kindegarten. As my husband says, "it is a new low point in the HRC campaign to pick on the dreams of a kindergartner."

I am speechless!

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By YesWeCan Carol Dec 3rd 2007 at 10:09 am EST

Leadership is often an in-born trait. One that is identifiable in five-year-olds, perhaps. Occasionally, one can marry into leadership, or assume that role if one's spouse unexpectedly dies. It would be easy to turn HRC's ridicule right back at her.

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By Charlotte in Newmarket NH Dec 3rd 2007 at 11:03 am EST

Oh Grace, Hillary and Bill must have forgotten that " It Takes A Village To Raise A Child" I guess in their "village", little boys and girls are not allowed to dream of being president.

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By bluecat Dec 3rd 2007 at 11:34 am EST

No they want them to grow up to be bi g corporate CEO's and pink slip their way to the top.

Sillary Clinton's staff must be loco. The American people should be able to decide on whether or not questions on vital issues are answered fully.

You can't pick facts, they are just that, facts.
The flip-flopping is just another way of politely saying, she lies to different groups at different times during her campaign to gain votes.

Dishonesty will never win the American Public, we've had enough lies from this administration and the 90's.

An America, that gives as good as it's promise.
Tavis Smiley, said that and it's true.
Americans work too hard to recieve the crumbs in their old and frail years. Now it's getting so we have to work til the day we die, with disabilities, and ailments.

WE already knew she would get nasty when the lies spewed on Slinton Network News on the polls, weren't reflecting the ground or memberships in the online membership.

Lies, lies, and more lies is what we will get if she's elected. She can't even stand on the truth of the polls on the ground. If she fudges the numbers through the media, she'll fudge the numbers in our budget and government contracts.

Why hasn't she led on the GAO, towards finding all those lost Billions. Are they now in Bill's, coffers, I notice he's gotten pretty chummy with people, Al Gore wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole.

And the military contractors are donating to their cause to keep war and bullets flying into people. Hillary "I'm your Girl!" Clinton.

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By Marbwi Dec 3rd 2007 at 2:43 pm EST

Also remember, this was during the LBJ admn(JFK was still fresh in ppl's mind). The teachers, most likely during that time, had discussions about the presidency). I know many pols today who say that they were inspired by Pres. Kennedy to participate in govt(either through joining the Peace Corp, etc).
For HCilnton's campaign to constantly mock kindergarten/10 yr olds/students caucussing/students participating through Facebook etc, shows me that she is not ready for PRIMETIME. Imagine a Dem(member of my own party) trying to discourage(aka voter suppression) young voters. Geeesh.

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By rich Dec 3rd 2007 at 10:10 am EST

and Herod (err Hillary), seeing that his (err her) reign was threatened, sent out an edict ....

... all prez candidates, all Americans, beware of what you dreamed of as a kindergartener, for the hour draweth near, when across the land, machine-like judgement will be meted out

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By Julia from Pasadena Dec 3rd 2007 at 10:28 am EST

um, for the record, I no longer want to be a ballerina.

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By Brian S. Dec 3rd 2007 at 11:08 am EST

LOL...TOO funny Julia!!!

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By meta Dec 3rd 2007 at 11:36 am EST

I wonder if next we'll be hearing that Obama's first spoken words were "Obama'08".....and I really hope nobody finds out about the time he spent his lunch money on a flag pin.

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By Theresa "Offering an olive branch to Clinton and McCain supporters" from NY Dec 3rd 2007 at 11:53 am EST

You are too funny! I love it!

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By marytnurse, supporting Barack Obama until I see his library built on donations from We The People Dec 3rd 2007 at 11:53 am EST

LMBO

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By Meg Dec 3rd 2007 at 11:53 am EST

And I no longer want to be a political columnist...

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By Mary Lou Dec 3rd 2007 at 12:43 pm EST

That was great!

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By rich Dec 3rd 2007 at 10:12 am EST

Will Jonah be able to survive being swallowed up by the C machine (err whale) ?:

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By ◎Desert Dove Dan◎ Dec 3rd 2007 at 11:03 am EST

LOL ;)

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By Brian S. Dec 3rd 2007 at 11:35 am EST

I agree...I think we're about to see a LOT of "NEW LOWS" from the opposition this month...

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By Teach53 Dec 3rd 2007 at 9:02 am EST

NYTs report from yesterday:

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By bluecat Dec 3rd 2007 at 12:29 pm EST

She keeps blaming him for her BS on the campaign questions. Barack Obama and John Edwards have no problem communicating their responses. Is she shocked that these issues, that effect the American Public for over twenty years, would come up again?

What a dim bulb. (running out of gas)
People are reading her like a old bedtime story.

What do you do, what do you do, "I'd rather be slinging mud at Republicans, instead of the oppositon."

Translation, I'd rather be feuding during my campaign with the Republicans, not uniting America, and solving real issues, but since the polls indicate i'm slipping in support for not answering truthfully and flip-flopping, I'll attack my own party with BS. So Rovian, it's getting, Ughly!

Hillary after January 3rd, will you finally see the error of the campaign staff in taking the money from Rome, to run against the American People. The People are the government, you work for us and are doing a piss poor job of stopping it, by voting for the Death Star to fight another Mideast war with the stress on them so bad with multiple tours. Iran was the first to offer help after 911, while the Bush Administration was telling the world, your either for us or against us.

Bully tactics are not a port of deplomacy, or "carrots and sticks."

It's her war policy stupids, once the lies ere revealed and Valerie Plames Book hit the stands, there should have been a cry out in the House to bring it down for Impeachment of this administration. But not one word on it.

You could at least toughen the whistle blower laws to find out all the dirt and get the crooks out, but nothing. Obama has been working with your republicans you call the enemy, and making real changes in the ethics committees.

The loop holes must be closed and your running on Bill's record which ain't so hot.

Do you some good to get a little sweat on your brow. American's blood, sweat, and tears, make us what we call Patriotic Human Beings in God's image, doing his deeds, while we have a breath in us.

I guess that's a little too deep for the Clinton's though. Little things like a good paying job, too busy making money to worry about, that little diddie.

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By Derek Oswald Dec 3rd 2007 at 9:04 am EST

Link

Hillary really dug herself a hole with this one. Fine by me, I always knew Obama was the more trustworthy and reliable candidate.

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By Kerri from PA Dec 3rd 2007 at 9:09 am EST

How about how she told Katie Couric that she was happy for Obama that Oprah is supporting him...She is full of you know what! She is scared out of her wits and ticked off because she thought this race was hers! And Kudos to Katie Couric for bringing it up!

I have written to the Oprah staff several times encouraging them over the years to do a show on voting. It seems like the type of show she'd do given that she is so into changing people's lives for the better. I'd like to see her cover all the basics from how to register and find out where you actually go to vote, to how to follow the candidates and their stand on issues - to the difference between a caucas and a primary election and why different states do it differently and also to explain the electoral college because I believe it confuses a lot of people and makes many believe that their vote doesn't actually count. Also, I may be incorrect here, but I had thought that the number of eligible AA voters who actually vote was very low and she could possibly encourage them to change their minds. We live in a day and age when people shouldn't be in the dark about candidates and the whole voting process and so many are and when you take into consideration how many people died for us to have that right and all that Susan B. Anthony did to pave the way for women, it's sad that so many people of all colors and genders do not vote who are eligible!

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By Jaiden's Gma♥ Dec 3rd 2007 at 9:47 am EST

I will look again, but I believe I saw it in the Washington Post....

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By royalarc Dec 3rd 2007 at 9:14 am EST

The last thing I remembered Watching Sunday Night Football.. (Go figure)

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By Ethel Dec 3rd 2007 at 9:10 am EST

Takes on his father regarding comments on Obama

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By JP - VA 4 OBAMA Dec 3rd 2007 at 1:01 pm EST

Beautiful. Thank you for sharing the link.

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By Carol-STL-MO Dec 3rd 2007 at 9:16 am EST

Excellent idea --- hopefully it will keep all the negative conversation & remarks directed there rather than here on the blog.

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By Aaron from Durham, NH Dec 3rd 2007 at 9:27 am EST

Honestly guys and gals, this is the best thing that could have happened. PLEASE, now more than ever, we need to stay positive.

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By Aaron from Durham, NH Dec 3rd 2007 at 9:30 am EST

I live in Durham, New Hampshire and this was just brought up on the public radio station. Everyone can see right through this. Every time I drive to town I see more and more Obama signs on the road and I smile.

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By Aaron from Durham, NH Dec 3rd 2007 at 9:49 am EST

Just read the NYTimes article...Americans, and especially people here in New Hampshire, don't put up with being "mandated" to do anything. Our state motto is "Live Free or Die!" We don't even mandate car insurance. What is HRC thinking?

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By Amy Dec 3rd 2007 at 9:58 am EST

Amen! I hate coming here and reading nothing but Hillary! Why come?

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By Kerri from PA Dec 3rd 2007 at 9:23 am EST

Are you talking about the one Obama "starred in" or was there another one that I missed???

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By MartiM who is thrilled with Joe Biden as VP! Dec 3rd 2007 at 9:23 am EST

Hillary is digging herself into a huge pit. She has always had a "likeability" issue. If there is one trait both men and women universally dislike about women, it is cattiness. Once she starts down this road in earnest, she will not be able to backtrack. I'm afraid that Hillary first of all cannot abide being bested; second and worse, being bested by a man; third and worst, being bested by a congenial black man.

We can expect her to become quite desperately unhinged.

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By meta Dec 3rd 2007 at 9:47 am EST

I really do think this nonsense from her is sounding kinda crazy. Somebody needs to get her a reality sandwich because her descent in the polls is going to be a very brutal awakening. Karma has been on call waiting for a long time.

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By bluecat Dec 3rd 2007 at 12:41 pm EST

Back in September 2007, i called it her "peak" and it was. When the heat as she calls it began to be turned up she crumbled, Obama left it alone, knowing it was gonna catch up to her, but then she started on something else. Edwards was the Hammer, and Obama was the Nail. See, even though the mud slinging (she says) was about the issues, she's freaking out instead of actually looking at better options to campaign on. Like a new healthplan with out the middlemen profiteers on the American people's worst time in their life. Illness.
I mean, if you don't have compassion for someone diagnosed terminally ill and come up with a previous illness loophole, you cna't be talking about flesh and blood American People. These companies don't die, if they don't have the money, but a human being dies, a child, a grandmother, when denial of coverage, takes priviledge over life.

It's a no Brainer Hillary, life or loot?
Duh!

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By Steve Dec 3rd 2007 at 9:27 am EST

Barack Obama Supporters in SD Celebrate Opening of Campaign Office

Scores of Barack Obama supporters turned out in San Diego over the weekend to celebrate the opening of a campaign office.

"It was fantastic, we had about 250 people," said Debbie Mesloh, a campaign spokeswoman. "Quite a few volunteers signed up to participate in canvassing and phone- bank their neighbors."

A new poll by The Des Moines Register has the junior senator from Illinois leading the field for the first time among the Democratic presidential candidates, although the gap between him and Sen. Hillary Clinton of New York is within the margin of error.

Among likely participants in the Iowa Democratic presidential caucuses on Jan. 2, Obama has 28 percent, Clinton 25 percent and former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards has 23 percent, according to the poll results.

The opening of the San Diego office yesterday marked Obama's third campaign office in the Golden State, according to a campaign aide. Obama has also opened offices in Oakland and Los Angeles.

Volunteers and supporters were treated to live music, entertainment and speeches from local community leaders and council members. The campaign office at 1502 Sixth Ave. will be open daily from 9 a.m. to 9 p.m.

Obama's is expected to return to Southern California Dec. 10 for a campaign event in Los Angeles, Mesloh said.

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By Lynn Dec 3rd 2007 at 11:46 am EST

One more step toward the White House, thanks SD!

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By Phil Dec 3rd 2007 at 9:28 am EST

I'm seeing some "attack" emails in NJ. Will forward them to the new email address immediately. It is troublesome that some people will sacrifice their personal integrity to try to get a candidate elected -- and it also says a lot about the candidate when that happens. David's message sets the right tone for us to follow and is greatly appreciated.

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By Steve Dec 3rd 2007 at 9:29 am EST

Rep. Jesse Jackson Voices Support Of Obama

Congressman Sends Open Letter To Dad, Rev. Jesse Jackson

POSTED: 7:47 am CST December 3, 2007
UPDATED: 8:10 am CST December 3, 2007

CHICAGO -- Ill. Rep. Jesse Jackson has gone public with a divided Jackson family on who to support for president. Specifically, there is a disagreement with his father over the presidential campaign of Barack Obama.

The younger Jackson refuted a column last month in which the Rev. Jesse Jackson said the Democrats running for president, with the exception of John Edwards, have "virtually ignored the plight of African Americans in this country."

In an open letter to his father in the Chicago Sun-Times Monday morning, Rep. Jackson said he has, "been witness to Obama's powerful, consistent and effective advocacy for African Americans."

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By Ethel Dec 3rd 2007 at 9:29 am EST

If anyone has a sign in on DU please respond to these comments

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By Steve Dec 3rd 2007 at 9:52 am EST

Just did!

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By Charles Dec 3rd 2007 at 10:38 am EST

BG holding the fort there as well, Ethel.

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By bluecat Dec 3rd 2007 at 2:40 pm EST

You know what gets me is the hypocracy of all of this, it's just talking between supporters who bust her lying and if there is a strong support here, then she shouldn't throw the stones at this house. We tried keeping it to just the other 50% of Democrats that won't vote for her and the momentum for change has swept the nation.

He can't help it if he has the people' right message. It just shows good judgement and compassion on the supporters side. He's supports all Americans, even Hillary supporters, he just doesn't think she's the right woman, and will either act irresponsibly by beating war drums or just avoid and pretend it away.

How come she has to be told anyway about the people's problems, I thought she's been working for the little man all her life since the 60's.

No wonder change was slow in coming.

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By Unknown user Dec 3rd 2007 at 9:30 am EST

As long as Sen. Obama continues to take the high road, Hillary looks more petty and mean-spirited by the day. I will do my part to alert anyone and everyone to this kind of playground bully behavior.

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By A Rebirth Dec 3rd 2007 at 9:48 am EST

i.e. dimentia or brilliance? I prefer brilliance!

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By Guest from Dyersville, IA Dec 3rd 2007 at 9:42 am EST

Hi all -

I'm a long time Obama supporter, and still am. I'm delighted he's up in the polls. But I think our campaign needs to be thinking about how to pivot on healthcare. Every real policy expert agrees that a mandate is necessary. Krugman's column, a couple days ago, hate to say it, but it was right.

No big deal, we all make mistakes. And I understand why, given the "storyline" about experience we can't admit one now. But just amongst ourselves, this one *was* a mistake. Let's figure out a strategy that allows us to win, but without sacrificing America's last opportunity for a very long time to actually get universal health care--and that means, including a mandate. Let's figure out a strategy that allows us to win without going on the stump every day and saying a mandate is not important, a mandate hurts poor people, etc. etc. We're better than that. You're better than that, Barack.

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By Makeba from Baton Rouge, LA Dec 3rd 2007 at 9:47 am EST

Absolutely wrong!
Not only is Obama's plan more generel election friendly...it is more balanced. Not everyone should be forced to get health insurance. We have seen how many people began falling through the cracks when they could not afford car insurance! They end up in jail as they can't afford it but still have to drive to get to work...vicios cycles and all that.

BUT more importantly, we should all be able to AFFORD health insurance. Obama's plan addresses that without putting everyone in this nation in the same cookie cutter system.

I am proud of him for taking the well thought out road, not the one that panders.

I'm saddened by you rlack of faith and unwillingness to truly compare the plans.

Try again.

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By Sam from ATL Dec 3rd 2007 at 9:48 am EST

Obama's healthcare plan is no mistake. No reason to change anything. Its been well researched and well-planned. And offers Americans and affordable choice.

Thanks for your support of Obama!

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By Amy Dec 3rd 2007 at 10:13 am EST

What the campaign needs to do is create a five point comparison of Clinton's plan and Obama's plan, emphasizing the cost reduction differences.

Bottom line - people don't want to wade through the whole policy statement to get a sense of how Obama will reduce costs. Reducing the cost is all they care about.

Mandatory coverage in health care only works if it's single payer. Otherwise it's a bureaucratic nightmare. This nonsense of Clinton's is just that - nonsense. It's a recipe for endless litigation, delays in implementation, and uncountable hidden costs. Not to mention the tax increase!

Ridiculous to think that in order to get everyone covered, all we have to do is force them to buy coverage! We could do that right now and call it universal health care!

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By meta Dec 3rd 2007 at 10:26 am EST

Amy, I was thinking about this, too. Only I was thinking that it would be good to give a concrete example of Jane and John Doe and their family under each of the candidate's policy. The mandate argument is untenable.

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By bluecat Dec 3rd 2007 at 3:02 pm EST

How about all children covered until they are working adults then they have to pay thirty dollars a month, regardless of illness until they are sixty five and then it's free. I mean this will ensure the movement for creating jovbs will be high on the list for the young adults coming out of high school, and entering college. A family plan for preventative health services such as immunizations and dental and well checks while the children are in school.
Call it Dollar a day Health Insurance, to only be charged when the person gainfully employed.

This will ensure that the employment agencies have their job slots filled with people who want to work to feed their families and ensure they have coverage, by insuring themselves with a reasonable plan. During winter is when colds come, so the preventative should be working with flu shots and the like. Nutrition brochures and e-mails with arobic two minute exercise campaigns should be installed during the sports seasons to keep the children's risk of obesity from becoming problematical.

It's time we covererd every soul who works here in this country whether they shovel mouse turds or build homes.
We don't want a illness for profit healthcare system engineered with the insurance companies calling the shots.
Patient to doctor priviledges come before insurance bottom lines and denials.

It's a matter of life or death.

but IO'll say I thought our suporters were vicious when our candidates attack. Our rebuttal blogging with factual information, is pissing a few HRC supporters off in media land.

Americans won't judge a book by it's cover, it's the inside and heart of Americans Obama has won.

If she really did work for us, why is it just now we know, all I knew was Nafta, and pink slips in the construction and roofing business that were sending families to the local Social Services and pushing them further down the economic ladder.

Please, no more drama, Vote for Obama.
The best part is after the nomination of our candidate the Clinton machine will be shut down once and for all. Then we can look forward to an Obama Change in DC Honest Presidency, after twenty years of Bush Clinton, Bush, Clinton.

GOOO! OBAMA!

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By Amy Dec 3rd 2007 at 10:36 am EST

You've drunk the progressive kool-aid.

Have you read the plans? And how much have you read about efforts to bring universal health care to countries other than this one? There is a lot of info out there.

It simply does not work to force people to buy health insurance from greedy corporations. There are too many ways to screw the taxpayer, yet again. It becomes a legislative, legal and implementation nightmare. And it's expensive.

And if that was all that is required to cover everyone we could do that now. Why not just pass a law that says everyone has to buy health care, and then call it universal health care? That's essentially what the Edwards/Clinton plans do.

Edwards and Hillary want huge tax increases so that those of us who have a penny or two left at the end of the month pay it to the government in order to cover the people who can't afford the expensive care that we are forced to buy. That's not only backwards, it's highly unfair. All they are doing is including more people in medicare and forcing those of us already paying expensive health care to cough up even more for the others.

Don't be fooled by rhetoric and buzz words like "universal." The only way mandatory insurance works with health care is if it's single payer, as in Kucinich's plan. That way, everyone pays what they can afford, and everyone benefits.

Hillary and Edwards are talking out of both sides of their mouths on this one. Not surprising, they're both poll-directed politicians.

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By marytnurse, supporting Barack Obama until I see his library built on donations from We The People Dec 3rd 2007 at 12:26 pm EST

And the immediacy of the crisis drives his plan; NOW! We need a fix NOW. Not whenever we can get around to figuring out how to actually enforce a mandate; we need to get prices down in time to save lives, to save years on people's lives, and to improve the quality of life. He has not ruled out TRULY universal health care in the future, he's ruling out requiring the payment of high premiums and insisting for no other reason than he can, that we must be insured without a legitimate mechanism for enforcement and a reasonable affordable choice. Everyone I know here in Iowa who has no health insurance DESPERATELY WANTS IT, they just can't afford it.

Dyersville, you know how miserably the auto insurance mandate in Iowa has failed. How many uninsured motorists are there in Iowa, even though coverage is mandated here? So what good is a mandate anyway?

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By Paul Dec 3rd 2007 at 10:46 am EST

I will repeat what the above posters have said -- Obama's plan is not a mistake.

A mandate does not make it so. There are Federal laws against illicit drug use and distribution. The failure of these laws proves that you can pass all the laws you want, but none of them mean a thing until you know how to enforce them.

To this day, Clinton does not address the question of enforcement, instead stating that Congress has many good ideas and will work out the details. In other words, she is leaving the basis of her attack on Obama, and the most politically contentious part of her plan, for someone else to figure out and fight for.

Obama also knows you do not put a mandate on the plan before you bring down the costs. Otherwise, especially for one as beholden to insurers as Clinton, you end up mandating health insurance that people cannot afford. This may help line the pockets of the executives at insurance companies, but it does nothing to solve the real problems of the struggling middle class. It only makes those problems worse!

This is just one more example of Clinton being more interested in appearances than results. She wants to appear to have a plan for comprehensive healthcare reform, but she knows full well it would not work and would not even make it through Congress as she has devised it. Instead of electing a President who is just preparing for a fight with Congress over the illusion of a toothless mandate, I would like to elect a President with a healthcare plan that works out of the box. I have had enough of these games.

Seriously, is this what she means by being ready to lead? A healthcare reform mandate for Congress to figure out? A timeout on all trade agreements because she is conflicted about her prior support of NAFTA? A bipartisan committee to look at the impending Social Security crisis? That is not the sound of hitting the ground running, that is the sound hope grinding to a halt.

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By Sharon Dec 3rd 2007 at 10:50 am EST

Dear Guest:
If you create a public profile, we will be less likely to view your concerns as disingenuous. Without the public profile, one may draw the conclusion that you are actually here to promote another candidates "mandates".

Mandates do not work. We see this in Massachusetts, throughout the country with auto insurance, and more recently, as they pertain to immunization of children. Senator Obama's plan is right on target. The American people resent mandates.

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By IA for Obama ☮ Dec 3rd 2007 at 10:57 am EST

Greetings, Guest!

Sorry, but I disagree with you. And both my parents, who are physicians and are very involved in many aspects of the health care industry, from being a vice-president of a pharmaceutical giant, a senator of the AMA, president of AMWA, a risk management expert, and an examiner for the JCAHO, disagree with you. And many other experts disagree with you. You don't say why a mandate is necessary, except that experts say so. Experts say lots of things. Why do YOU feel as you do?

Barack isn't saying a mandate isn't important; he's saying it's wrong. It's not right to place yet another burden upon the American people, especially when you haven't been clear how you're going to implement and enforce the mandate, and how you're going to make what you're mandating affordable. Barack's plan focuses on making health coverage affordable, and that's a practical solution I can get behind.

Like many others here, I would prefer a single-payer solution, but that's not feasible, given the system we already have in place. Barack's is a common sense, realistic proposal that will greatly reform our current system. And once he's implemented his plan, he will continue to reform the system, and revise his own policies, as necessary.

Also, when Barack makes mistakes, he'll admit them. But you can have diverse, informed but conflicting perspectives without one particular view being the exclusively right one. Unless, of course, you're talking about "pre-emptive" wars based on pretext and presupposition. Now, one of the candidates who claims we need a mandate did make a HUGE mistake about such a vote (and another she cast recently). She's said so many different things about her vote that I don't think she's yet admitted it as a mistake (although I could be mistaken!). But that's the old way of doing politics. One of the reasons that I know Barack is the one we need now is that he is a grown up and can admit when he's made mistakes. The last thing we need is yet another president that believes so deeply in his or her inerrancy that he or she will lead us into unnecessary and disastrous wars, compromise our freedoms here at home, rip apart our justice system to reflect his or her ideological image, etc and so forth. I agree with you on one thing--Barack IS better than that.

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By Obama-logue Dec 3rd 2007 at 11:41 am EST

I don't think you're going to find anyone who agrees with you on that here.

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By Michele from Huntington Beach, CA Dec 3rd 2007 at 11:43 am EST

I disagree. Just last night my sister said she won't vote for any candidate who tells her she has to buy the health insurance the government mandates. She wants to make her own choices -- i.e., keep what she has, go with theirs if it's better, or not have insurance at all. And she's a registered Republican leaning toward Obama (yaaay!).

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By Julia from Pasadena Dec 3rd 2007 at 11:51 am EST

Hi Guest,
You seem to have made a mistake on this, but we don't mind! Having a mandate to force people to buy health insurance in the US won't work. There are too many people who dont' want to be forced into doing it, and its not right to turn them into criminals for not buying health insurance. Our jails are full enough.

Obama's health plan is the one we need to make the next step in this country. We can't afford to elect someone who has already failed, we can't go another 4-8 years bickering and fighting and not making progress.

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By Tammy Dec 3rd 2007 at 12:04 pm EST

You didn't read the experts recommendations correctly. They do not suggest a "mandate" is necessary or required.

Lets not allow Hillary's foolishness to detract us.

The goal is to get folks coverage they can afford. Hillary forces Americans to accept insurance they cannot afford. Does that make sense to any rational thinking person?

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By marytnurse, supporting Barack Obama until I see his library built on donations from We The People Dec 3rd 2007 at 12:17 pm EST

I think we want to be aware that Edwards (Elizabeth too!)is trying to win an election also, in spite of the fact that there are as many flip-flops in the past few years as with any other candidate. Let us not forget that we have two candidates who are top contenders in Iowa; I know the rest of you forget that Edwards is out there, but look at those answering the polls in Iowa. All are looking toward Iowa to catapult them into a lead. Edwards is no different. Please don't forget that we need to win DELEGATES in Iowa AND NH!!!! That means we need to pick up all the second choices in Iowa, and we need to get those who are still undecided; That's still a significant portion of voters! There's still lots of work to be done!!!

"America, Our Moment is NOW!" "Let's go change the world!" Link

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By Jay Varkey Dec 3rd 2007 at 10:14 am EST

I agree with Danton--forcing the public to purchase insurance (without a mechanism for enforcement) is not viable (yet) given the high price of insurance.

Guest from Dyersville, check out this article from Slate in which Timothy Noah outlines why Obama's health plan is better than HRC's (link is below). I would be interested to read your thoughts after reading this article. Thanks for posting.

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By Daniel from Texas Dec 3rd 2007 at 10:52 am EST

Yep, Obama's plan would get almost everyone onto health insurance. Nothing else other than a single payer system would do better. Clinton and Edwards plans are not single payer. They are no better, they are just using words. Obama's plan is the start of a plan that could get votes.

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By Theresa "Offering an olive branch to Clinton and McCain supporters" from NY Dec 3rd 2007 at 9:46 am EST

Hi David,

You have my support. Being here in NY, we unfortunately get a lot of negative press towards Barack. Here is the first one from today's NY Post (one of the most horrible newspapers on the planet)--

Hillary is basically calling Barack's character into question and accusing him of having a 'slush fund.' My understanding is that she is saying that Barack is lying about the fact that his campaign is entirely funded by grassroots support.

"Clinton then whacked Obama for using his leadership PAC to sprinkle more than $100,000 in campaign contributions to influential lawmakers in states like Iowa and New Hampshire.

She charged he "at least skirted, if not violated, the [Federal Election Commission] rules and used lobbyist and PAC money to do so."

Clinton also ripped Obama for failing to come out for a health plan that covers all Americans, hitting him for calling his plan "universal" in one campaign forum yesterday but then shying away when she was nearby.

"It went from universal when I wasn't there to comprehensive when I was on the same stage," she said.

"It's obvious that he doesn't want to face up to the very position he took, because every time he changes his posture on it, he uses different words to describe it.

"At some point, you've got to ask yourself, who's really committed here?" she said. "Who's doing it just for political reasons, and who has a lifetime of conviction and commitment?"

The attacks, some of the most pointed and personal of the campaign, come as Obama surged past Clinton in a new Des Moines Register poll just a month before the Iowa caucuses.

Obama said yesterday, "Everything that we've done is in exact accordance with the law."

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I believe there needs to be a more forceful response to this from Barack's campaign.

Thank you

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By Marbwi Dec 3rd 2007 at 2:53 pm EST

This site here gives responses:

click here and send it out to others
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By Lorraine Dec 3rd 2007 at 9:48 am EST

The rapid response of this incredible campaign is wonderful. Keep up the Great Work!

Hillary's Strategy | Report to Admin

By kkbmom Dec 3rd 2007 at 9:48 am EST

Great new website, HQ!!! We will be vigilant and reports all attacks by HRC.

It's pretty clear that HRC's strategy is to attack Barack right up to Jan. 3. She hopes, that - if she doesn't win Iowa - she can move votes to Edwards. Then, so the HRC theory goes, she will have a good chance to win NH and move on to Super Tuesday.

It's a huge miscalculation that underestimates the voters of Iowa and the strength, breadth and passion of Obama support.

Let's prove her wrong.

OBAMA '08

Andrea Mitchell: "Clinton Campaign Worried" | Report to Admin

By Teach53 Dec 3rd 2007 at 9:49 am EST

Andrea Mitchell was just on MSNBC talking about the DMR poll and said that the Clinton campaign is very worried about the trend line showing her losing support among women and Obama gaining among women. Mitchell says she "surprised" that Clinton went after Obama on the "character and ethics", since it just reminds people of the problems the clintons have in that area.

Re: Andrea Mitchell: "Clinton Campaign Worried" | Report to Admin

By Strong Heart Dec 3rd 2007 at 9:54 am EST

That’s why they talk about a glass ceiling, Hillary lives in a glass house…

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By ☞Aunt Becky☜ ... Blogyenta: "I kvetch, therefore I am." Dec 3rd 2007 at 2:03 pm EST

GOOD one, our Heart of Strength...

Auntie B.

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By Amy Dec 3rd 2007 at 10:17 am EST

It's a Republican strategy - Rovian. It's called "attack where you're weak." It often works, because it "evens the playing field" for the candidate with the problem.

Hillary is fabricating character issues with Barack because she is weak in that area herself.

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By Theresa "Offering an olive branch to Clinton and McCain supporters" from NY Dec 3rd 2007 at 10:24 am EST

Absolutely, Amy. It's important to note that Hillary's campaign spokesperson Howard Wolfson has openly stated how much he admires Karl Rove. Nice role model, Howard.

This is what we are dealing with. When Hillary starts to question Barack's character, he has every right and an obligation to fight back and defend himself. I have no doubt he will and do it with dignity.

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By Bradley Dec 3rd 2007 at 10:42 am EST

Funny you mention the tactic of Karl Rove. I was on CNN.com earlier, and saw that Rove is trying to give advice to Obama on how to defeat Clinton - something about "sharpening attacks against Clinton." Of course, I know Barack won't accept that advice. He's pledged to keep his campaign positive, and besides, why would he accept advice from a man whom he has denounced in several speeches?

"The age of Scooter-Libby justice and Karl Rove politics is over." -Barack Obama

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By A Rebirth Dec 3rd 2007 at 9:53 am EST

David - HRC is not ready to play HARDBALL with Senator Obama, trust me. She had better get ready for the BARACKattack, i.e. vigorous supporters who ain't taking her crap any longer and who will stand by their man! Which is my Americans will BARACK the VOTE this time around. Message to the HRC camp: We will, we will BARACK you! BARACKomania is on the rise!

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By vw (Hussien)cat - Because I am very bitter and elitist Dec 3rd 2007 at 9:54 am EST

David,
I, like others, do google as well and comment on articles that are untrue.
I am glad you are launching this as we can notify you when this is happening.
The press helps out clinton alot. And has been. But, for Clinton, the very face of character problems, to accuse Sen. obama of it is just laughable.
I will say, on sites that have carried the story about yesterday, about 95% of the people commenting are on Obama's side on this. they do not believe her and find it laughable she is the one to bring up character issues.

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By New Day Dec 3rd 2007 at 10:09 am EST

David I agree with you, BUT we want the campaign to be very active bu using high level surrogate against the HRC machine.Ppl need to go to townhall meeting and start asking her why she think attacking opponent is "FUN" and why she is attacking Barack on non-sense issues. If ppl go to NH, IO, SC meeting and challenge her, she will understand that she cannot say anything and run away with it.

I really like when Barack answer directly to HRC like in the Robert Novack collum. We will do every thing we can but we expect you to find the best strategy to Challenge her. Be very carefull as Barack said it she is under stress because of poll . I love it "She Stressed by the Poll result". Please use this a lot this week against her.

Have Barack well prepared for the next debate because she will go crazy and if Barack does what he needs to do, I expect her to look like a completly foul in the next debate. Therefore, finish sonner than expected.

Here is another attack about Obama on DU | Report to Admin

By Ethel Dec 3rd 2007 at 10:02 am EST

If someone can please respond.

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Re: Here is another attack about Obama on DU | Report to Admin

By Tom Brown, Yonkers HS 1966 Dec 3rd 2007 at 10:05 am EST

Here's my response: Link

Re: Here is another attack about Obama on DU | Report to Admin

By Strong Heart Dec 3rd 2007 at 10:07 am EST

Some see empty words, I see empty plates…

Don't take the bait. | Report to Admin

By Tom Brown, Yonkers HS 1966 Dec 3rd 2007 at 10:03 am EST

It seems to me that what the HRC campaign is doing, having realized they are going to lose Iowa, is try to insure that at ALL costs, Obama does NOT win. Think about it - knowing they will lose Iowa the next worse case for HRC is an Obama victory. they are far better off with an Edwards victory because later in the game he will be unable to finance a campaign against her. If Obama wins Iowa and goes on to win NH then he just may be unstoppable. They are trying to bring Obama down with them., I'm not sure what the best strategy is against this but I sure hope our brilliant campaign leaders do.