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Debates! Who won?

By http://www.ActiveResource.org/ - Sep 28th, 2008 at 12:38 pm EDT

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While Obama seemed a bit ahead, it was a virtual draw at many levels...
McCain was well-prepared, and his lies were only evident when Obama pointed
them out. I enjoyed the "you were wrong about" sequence... but it was too selective and could have stood some repetition. And while a referenceto our 4000 dead was useful, the failure to mention five million refugess and our ownthirty plus thousand casualites was a fault.

Obama had much less of substance to say than McCain when talking aboutmililtary engagement.  This may be because his advisors told him to keep his
answers short... but it made him look like he simply had less to draw on.

McCain only became a bit aggravated but never went ballistic.Obama lost his lost his cool a couple times... but they both interrupted one another.

A tie will not cut it.  Obama needs to be a bit more confrontational and a lotless agreeable.   Or the fighter pilot, lies or not... could win by default

I am hoping that the next two debates are more decisive. For Obama to win,
we need for him to lay it on the line and refuse to allow McCain to slither away
from the issues, change the subject, or play the POW or older man cards.

Or... we need for McCain to go ballistic. (A fairly likely eventuality if Obama prods him a bit.)

Obama won on econoimcs, but frankly... his answers on our military involvement

overseas were relatively simplistic and unsophisticaed. Now, so were McCain's,
in fact some of his were clearly delusional... but he gets a free pass due to age
and experience. Obama needs to provide a starker contrast and NOT "agree with
John" so much. I did not hear any talk about no-bid, cost-plus contract enforcement which strains taxpayer resources and takes our soldiers' lives.  If Obama keeps avoiding this elephant in the room, (only peripherally mentioning 10 billion a month)
it will be a serious errror. And Obama's simlistic embrace of the Bush doctrine...of preemptive agression, and the situational ethics that are used to provide coverfor this travesty of justice, this makes him look similar to McCain, Bush, Cheney, et al.

The top down doctrine which inspired and condoned the torture at Abu Graibe,
needs to be mentioned.  That our nation has suspended habeaus corpus and now
embraces torture, wiretaps innocents, bombs residential areas, and condones
selective murder and rape is a reality which most Americans find repugnant.
Obama must tie McCain to these shameful legacies and offer viable alternatives
to the moral bankruptcy they represent.
When McCain chooses to simply ignore history and call the unmitigated disaster
in Iraq "success," Obama needs to remind the audience that our unprovoked attack
on a non-agressive nation is NOT appropriate, nor should it be repeated...

He also needs to make the point, and drive it home, that securing the peace througha strategic balance of diplomacy and military deployment, is a more firm foundation
for national security and economic stability.  History has proven, repeatedly, ad infinitum,
that NOBODY wins an occupation. Obama needs to provide this critical perpsective, rather than being sucked into McCain's perverse definitions of success and "winning" which
ignore the toll in lives, resources, and our international reputation. tim

Obama update! All but one of the Photos below are by Peter C. Little, Portland, Oregon Photographer (Shannon provided the other one)
Here are first person, backstage photos by Peter C. Little of Portland, Oregon.
These are supplied by The Wordsmith Collection
Photos from Barack Obama's visit to Portland

http://www.slide.com/r/h9lbfhd14D-4jP9_bjunEJDd0D-teSxJ

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