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Change is Coming meeting

By ! Arry Murphey-Frank-Foothills Area Manager CA CD4 - Dec 9th, 2008 at 7:03 pm EST

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WoW! I am hosting an event and we have reached capacity with over 50 people!

This tells me that people are HUNGRY for change and they are HUNGRY to help President Obama move forward with his agenda. I am really excited to see this and I most of these people are new voices who were not involved before.

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WE DID IT!

By ! Arry Murphey-Frank-Foothills Area Manager CA CD4 - Nov 5th, 2008 at 7:35 pm EST

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Congratulations to all of us grassroots workers! We did it, we changed the nation and we now have the most wonderful president! President Obama! Thank you to all that helped out and thank you to all of the wonderfull Obama volunteers here in the foothills. You are fantastic! Thank you BARACK OBAMA for teaching us all to be community organizers and to care about our country again.

PEACE AND LOVE TO ALL,

Arry

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I'm back and ready to phone bank

By ! Arry Murphey-Frank-Foothills Area Manager CA CD4 - Oct 23rd, 2008 at 8:03 pm EDT

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So, Iv'e been in India and Nepal for 3 weeks and I am now home. Time to phone bank and GOTV! We are almost there folks so let's all get cracking and don't let just one vote get away!

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Back from Denver, let's get to work!!

By ! Arry Murphey-Frank-Foothills Area Manager CA CD4 - Aug 31st, 2008 at 9:23 pm EDT

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I am back from Denver, WOW! What an experience. I tried to blog but, I took the wrong cord and my computer died. It is so exciting to have been a part of history and it was great to share it with my foothills friends that went. It was awesome! Now the work has to start in earnest. let's all get out there and make the calls, walk the precincts and talk to your neighbors. What an exciting time we are living in. LET'S MAKE IT HAPPEN FOLKS!

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Is anyone else feeling disturbed about the recent poll numbers?

By ! Arry Murphey-Frank-Foothills Area Manager CA CD4 - Aug 21st, 2008 at 2:16 pm EDT

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I don't know about all of you but I have this uuneasy feeling that something is afoot. It doesn't make sense to me that the poll numbers have gotten so close in the last few days before the convention. I saw a CNN poll today that had McCain WAY up over Obama on who people trusted with the economy. Is it just me or does anyone else think that this is odd? Where are all of the Democrats?

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I got my volunteer duties for Denver

By ! Arry Murphey-Frank-Foothills Area Manager CA CD4 - Aug 13th, 2008 at 5:40 pm EDT

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I got assigned to work the "Presidential Experience" for 4 nights of the convention. I will be working in a tent OUTSIDE of Invesco field when the historic speech takes place......so close.....yet so far...tried to get the community credentials but nothing so far...guess the chances are pretty slim.

:^(

Well, at least i will be in Denver and hopefully there will be some good parties afterward!

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Success!

By ! Arry Murphey-Frank-Foothills Area Manager CA CD4 - Aug 12th, 2008 at 1:34 pm EDT

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Thanks to everyone who showed up last night for the opening of our new office! We estimate that about 200 people came through to see the new Obama/Democratic headquarters! Considereing that Placer is the most Republican County in CA, that is just amazing! Woo HOO!

Together we will elect Obama! YES WE CAN!

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Don't forget to come by the Grand Opening!-Auburn

By ! Arry Murphey-Frank-Foothills Area Manager CA CD4 - Aug 7th, 2008 at 12:13 pm EDT

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Don't forget to come by the GRAND OPENING of our new Democratic Headquarters/Obama Headquarters at 1015 Lincoln Way in Auburn. The office will be open on August 7 so come by and say hi! The event is from 4-7 on Monday, August 11th...Let's kick it off with a bang!

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How refreshing to see the Euro reaction to Obama!!

By ! Arry Murphey-Frank-Foothills Area Manager CA CD4 - Jul 25th, 2008 at 7:31 pm EDT

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I travel a lot and over the years I have seen the foreign reaction to American abroad. It was so heartwarming to see all of the Germans waving American flags and to see 200,000 + people come to see Barack. I thought way back how someone like Obama might repair our place in the world and I can now see proof of that. I really was happy to see how friendly the President of France was with Obama, it was almost like they were old drinking buddies rather than the head of state of France and an American Senator. Kudos to Obama for his work on this trip.

I did enjoy seeing McCain get all snarky this week and I especially enjoyed seeing him in front of the CHEESE at the grocery store! LOL!

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A Call to Artists!

By ! Arry Murphey-Frank-Foothills Area Manager CA CD4 - Jul 24th, 2008 at 3:50 pm EDT

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Hey all of our local and not so local artists. On September 28th, the Democratic Club of Auburn and the Sierra Foothills for Obama will be holding a fundraiser at Latitudes restaurant in Auburn, CA to help pay for our new campaign headquarters. We will be hosting a WINE AND ART event with all proceeds going to the Democratic Club to help promote the campaign through our headquarters and through buying other items needed to support canvassing, phone banking, swag acquisition etc. WE NEED ANY ARTISTS who would like to donate artwork, crafts or other themeatic items for an ART AUCTION at the event. Please contact me via E-mail arry@neteze.com or by phone 916-508-6888

I know there are a TON of us artists who are in the OBAMA camp, this is a great way to have your artwork seen by the cream of the crop local Democrats...ie: OBAMA SUPPORTERS!

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New Democratic/Obama/Brown Campaign Headquarters to open!

By ! Arry Murphey-Frank-Foothills Area Manager CA CD4 - Jul 23rd, 2008 at 5:13 pm EDT

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I am happy to annouce that the Placer Central Committee and the Auburn Area Democrats have just signed a deal on some wonderful office space in Auburn for a Placer county campaign headquarters. The headquarters will syupport the Obama Campaign, the CD4 Charlie Brown Campaign and some other local dems. The space is at 1015 Lincoln Way, has its own parking and a great street presence. Watch my blog for more information on the opening dates and ceremony. YES WE CAN! We are looking at a date some time around the 5th of August to open but I will keep everyone informed.

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Placerville mayor has anti-Obama sign-let's take action!

By ! Arry Murphey-Frank-Foothills Area Manager CA CD4 - Jul 18th, 2008 at 5:20 pm EDT

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From KVOR 13, Look what the ex-mayor of Placerville has done!

http://www.cbs13.com/video/?id=36386@kovr.dayport.com

http://cbs13.com/local/placerville.obama.sign.2.773084.html

http://pod08.prospero.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?nav=main&webtag=KOVR_MikeD&entry=20

Let's all let him know that there is no room in California for fear mongering and ignorance !

i suggest that we NICELY Blog 13 and the local news stations! let them know that there are people who know the truth and this doesn't even pass as satire, this is just mean.

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Negative Posts

By ! Arry Murphey-Frank-Foothills Area Manager CA CD4 - Jul 16th, 2008 at 8:34 pm EDT

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I have noticed several negative posts lately to many of the groups to which I belong. I also started noticing a pattern, that they were usually from the same people. I then looked at the profiles of these people and evey single one had no picture, had no friends, and had only made negative posts, never positive ones.

I think that these people are what are called "TROLLS" in the internet world. I think that they are a type of interloper who comes in and tries to stir up people's emotions to get them to feel badly towards Barack. I think that we need to ignore these people and if we see repeated posts, we should report them to the campaign. Legitimate discourse and dissagreements are fine but I get the feeling that there are a lot of these people who have come to do nothing but stir up trouble.

I am asking people to read these posts and look at who is saying it, is it someone with a long history of the campaign or is it someone with a sketchy profile? If it is the latter, lets take it with a big boulder of salt and not take the bait.

Peace.ARRY

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Obama not flip-flopping

By ! Arry Murphey-Frank-Foothills Area Manager CA CD4 - Jul 7th, 2008 at 5:51 pm EDT

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I was asked to pass this along:
OBAMA NOT FLIP-FLOPPINGby Lynette McGrathIn all of the right-wing and left-wing chatter about Obama having shifted his position on a number of issues since he began his campaign for the presidency, I think we've lost sight of who Obama is, what his history tells us, and what he himself has told us.
What was clear from the moment of Obama's speech to the Democratic Convention in Boston in 2004, was that he was ready to lead a new movement that would unite Americans, speak to them all, lessen paralyzing partisan divisions, negotiate across the aisle-Democrats and Republicans together, and forge a new way of making decisions that would be inclusive. His legislative history and his comments throughout the primary campaign tell us that he favors a pragmatic compromise system of doing politics. He also sees himself as an appropriate embodiment of this message, emphasizing the way he himself unifies the diversity of black and white, Ghanian and American, humble origins and personal success.
I believe that progressives downplayed this message of unity and compromise and made Obama into something he never was. They thought the message of change was about a far-left progressivism that would ride over the right because that's what they themselves wanted and needed, after years of being battered by the right-wing agenda. But change is not necessarily about revolution. Obama has always been about inclusion, which isn't possible if only the progressive agenda is pushed. Now progressives are disappointed that their image is not being acted out. I remember being with friends during the primary who were talking Obama up as a left-wing progressive and thinking that wasn't quite what I heard him offering. Yet I felt happy with his candidacy because he seemed to me to be talking about the sensible compromise politics I understand from British ways of doing political business. It's a method that, when it works, gets things done to benefit the greatest possible number, but not all, and usually not those on either end of the spectrum.
Obama's commitment to the idea of unity, of valuing all and including all, is fundamental to his message and goal. He is not a liberal ideologue. He is a liberal open to compromise. He is also a sensible, rational, responsible leader who takes care to work out pragmatic solutions to difficult problems. Unlike George Bush and even Bill Clinton, who packaged his speeches as simply as possible and whose vocabulary count in his public speeches was even less than Reagan's or either Bush's, Obama acknowledges and takes account of nuance and the subtleties embedded in complicated issues. "What I don't do when I'm campaigning is to try to press a lot of hot buttons and use a lot of cheap applause buttons, because I want people to get a sense of how I think about this process," said Obama. "I think that one of the problems with political speeches is that we all know what folks want to hear. We know who the conventional, stereotypical enemies are on any given issue, and we have a tendency, I think, to play up to that. And I actually think that we're in this moment in history right now where honesty, admitting complexity is a good thing."
Psychologists tell us that when people first fall in love they go through a process called cathexis, in which the lover makes the beloved into something he or she wants and needs the other to be. After a period of time, both lover and beloved begin to see each other as they really are. This is what is happening with liberal progressives and Obama now. A relationship reality check is going on. It is not that Obama is "flip-flopping," but that liberal progressives are coming to see him for who he is-a grownup, thoughtful, non ideological politician who offers Americans a balanced, inclusive, and cooperative political future.

In his speech to the 2004 convention, Obama said,"Yet even as we speak, there are those who are preparing to divide us, the spin masters and negative ad peddlers who embrace the politics of anything goes. Well, I say to them tonight, there's not a liberal America and a conservative America, there's the United States of America. . . . We are one people, all of us pledging allegiance to the stars and stripes, all of us defending the United States of America." And "[W]e are connected as one people. If there's a child on the south side of Chicago who can't read, that matters to me, even if it's not my child. If there's a senior citizen somewhere who can't pay for her prescription and has to choose between medicine and the rent, that makes my life poorer, even if it's not my grandmother. If there's an Arab American family being rounded up without benefit of an attorney or due process, that threatens my civil liberties. It's that fundamental belief, "I am my brother's keeper, I am my sister's' keeper," that makes this country work. It's what allows us to pursue our individual dreams, yet still come together as a single American family. "E pluribus unum. Out of many, one."
Christopher Wills, 6/25/2008 6:00:10 PMBookmark and Share, looking back on Obama's history in the Illinois legislature, writes that, "As an Illinois legislator, Barack Obama fought to expand aid to the poor-and backed legislation to withhold welfare from parents abusing drugs. He opposed making it easier to impose the death penalty on gang members, and supported it for people who kill volunteers in community policing programs. He consistently supported gun control. He also voted to let retired police and military personnel carry concealed weapons.
Just how liberal was he?
In all, Obama's record from nearly eight years in the Illinois Senate suggests someone who believes strongly that government can make life better for people, whether by offering financial help, banning dangerous guns or providing health care.
But Obama, now the Democratic candidate for president, was no ideologue. He often cooperated with Republican lawmakers, co-sponsoring their legislation and working with them on compromises. "People on both sides of the aisle would find him to be someone who would reach across to find out why people think the way they do," said William Mahar, a former Republican state senator. "He wouldn't talk just to people who agreed with him."

On Iraq, from the beginning, Obama has said that we need to be "as careful getting out as we were careless getting in." He told George Stephanopolous in a "This Week" interview in May, 2007 that he could support a war-funding bill that includes benchmarks but lacks a timetable for withdrawal.
Obama has emphasized his support for withdrawing American troops from Iraq, but also says his policy would need to accommodate to the ongoing situation in Iraq.
"I think we have some moral and humanitarian responsibilities to the Iraqi people," says Obama. "And that has to be factored in. I can't anticipate what Iraq will look like a year from now, because so much depends on how we carry out this phased redeployment and how effective we are when it comes to diplomacy."

In his health care program, Obama also hews to a workable middle ground. Rather than mandating universal health coverage and trying probably futilely to mandate coverage for all, he will set up a new, subsidized, government-operated insurance plan for people who aren't covered by their employers or Medicare. He acknowledges the difficulty and expense in potentially criminalizing young healthy people who refuse to sign up for health insurance.

His economic policy is also a compromise between the classical economic theories of Keynes and Friedman. On the whole, he seems to accept a theory that allows the free market system to operate freely as long as it continues to correct itself, but the government will intervene when it fails to do so. All credit card and mortgage issuers, and other financial services firms, will be forced to disclose all their charges clearly, fully, and in plain language. Firms that don't issue 401 K plans for their employees would be required to open a direct deposit retirement account for their workers, with an opt-out clause. For the first $1000 in savings that an employee contributed, the government would provide a $500 tax credit.
Further reading from Karen McCool:
he has had a long history of working across the aisle (compromise) ... here's a rundown of his bipartisan legislation (oct 06)
<http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidian_wings/2006/10/barack_obama.html>http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidian_wings/2006/10/barack_obama.html

Obama takes bipartisan approach (Jan 08)
<http://dailybruin.ucla.edu/news/2008/jan/17/obama-takes-bipartisan-approach-people/>http://dailybruin.ucla.edu/news/2008/jan/17/obama-takes-bipartisan-approach-people/

Obama calls for bipartisan approachto health care (Nov 07)
<http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/459705/barack_obama_calls_for_bipartisan_approach.html?cat=5>http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/459705/barack_obama_calls_for_bipartisan_approach.html?cat=5

Here's a good article on his history in chicago politics... and his "collaborative" approach<http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0417/p01s07-uspo.html?page=2>http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0417/p01s07-uspo.html?page=2

and you have to read this one...from Fox news no less:
Obama's state senate years show bipartisan record
<http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/06/25/obamas-state-senate-years-show-bipartisan-record/>http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/06/25/obamas-state-senate-years-show-bipartisan-record/

<http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0707/5171.html>http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0707/5171.html
excerpt (Jul 2007)

Here's an interesting one from Feb 06

<http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1158975,00.html>http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1158975,00.html

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The truth about the AP report on Obama and Evangelicals

By ! Arry Murphey-Frank-Foothills Area Manager CA CD4 - Jul 1st, 2008 at 6:03 pm EDT

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Thanks to an E-mail from Lisa Owens who clarified what really happened:

Many of you may have read or heard of the AP story this morning stating the following: “Reaching out to evangelical voters, Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama is announcing plans that would expand President Bush's program steering federal social service dollars to religious groups and — in a move sure to cause controversy — support their ability to hire and fire based on faith.” This is false. Totally false. He said the exact opposite. See below. The AP has repeatedly done HIT JOBS on Obama and this is another one. Here is the story and Republicans are digging it up and trying to scare Obama voters. Please click on the white space next to BURY and either BURY the story or click on Inaccurate.http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Obama_to_expand_Bush_s_faith_based_programs Here is a more accurate story on how Obama slams Bush’s program and wants to dismantle it and create a Faith & Neighborhood based initiative. Please Digg this story.http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Obama_to_rename_Bush_s_faith_office_Mike_Allen_PoliticoPlease remember to Digg or Bury the comments too! Just click on Thumbs UP or DOWN! Thanks!UPDATE: An Obama campaign official told the Huffington Post that the AP's claims about Obama allowing hiring or firing based on faith are false. From a portion of Obama's speech today:"Now, make no mistake, as someone who used to teach constitutional law, I believe deeply in the separation of church and state, but I don't believe this partnership will endanger that idea - so long as we follow a few basic principles. First, if you get a federal grant, you can't use that grant money to proselytize to the people you help and you can't discriminate against them - or against the people you hire - on the basis of their religion. Second, federal dollars that go directly to churches, temples, and mosques can only be used on secular programs. And we'll also ensure that taxpayer dollars only go to those programs that actually work."The Politico, meanwhile, describes Obama's new plan not as an expansion of Bush's Faith-Based Initiative, but as an effort to tear down what Bush created and establish a new program with a new set of goals:Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) slammed President Bush's faith-based program as "a photo-op" and a failure on Tuesday, and said he will scrap the office and create a new Council for Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships that would be a "critical" part of his administration. Obama, unveiling a plan to overhaul and expand Bush's faith-based program during remarks at a community ministry in Zanesville, Ohio, said the White House Office of Community and Faith-Based Initiatives - which Bush founded during his second week in office - "never fulfilled its promise." [...]Reaching out to evangelicals who are non-plussed by Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), Obama declared: "I still believe it's a good idea to have a partnership between the White House and grassroots groups, both faith-based and secular. But it has to be a real partnership - not a photo-op. That's what it will be when I'm President. I'll establish a new Council for Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships.""The new name will reflect a new commitment," he continued. "This Council will not just be another name on the White House organization chart - it will be a critical part of my administration."

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Recruiting a Sacramento volunteer Nation for Change Rally

By ! Arry Murphey-Frank-Foothills Area Manager CA CD4 - Jun 30th, 2008 at 8:25 pm EDT

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Anyone who would like to contact me regarding a position of setting up the August 23rd Sacramento Rally for Nation for Change, please contact me ASAP. Thanks! Arry

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CALLING ALL AUBURN AREA ARTISTS AND OBAMA SUPPORTERS!

By ! Arry Murphey-Frank-Foothills Area Manager CA CD4 - Jun 30th, 2008 at 8:16 pm EDT

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I would like to invite any local people to come help with the Auburn float and parade on the fourth of July. Please look at your local events and sign up for the parade and to help with the float.

Thanks! Arry Murphey-Frank

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Lets reach out to the Hillary supporters!

By ! Arry Murphey-Frank-Foothills Area Manager CA CD4 - Jun 3rd, 2008 at 6:11 pm EDT

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I was thinking that I have a lot of friends who are Hillary supporters and I think that it would be a good thing to reach out to them in the next couple of weeks. Let's all promise to make a point to answer questions, show how simular policy-wise Barack and Hillary are and see if you can get them enthused about Barack. Let's not let people think that voting for McCain is even an option! Let's welcome them and try to show them that our candidate is as good as thiers and let's UNITE our party!

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Obama Campaign DOESN'T Want Supporters To Protest RBC Meeting!

By ! Arry Murphey-Frank-Foothills Area Manager CA CD4 - May 28th, 2008 at 6:07 pm EDT

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Obama Campaign DOESN'T Want Supporters To Protest RBC Meeting!

Wed May 28, 2008 at 03:34:08 AM PDT

The newspaper for Capitol Hill, The Hill, reports that they obtained
an internal e-mail from the Obama campaign regarding the protest at
the RBC meeting:

Sen. Barack Obama's (D-Ill.) campaign is urging its supporters not to
demonstrate at Saturday's highly anticipated Democratic National
Committee (DNC) meeting on how to handle the delegates of Florida and
Michigan.

In an internal campaign e-mail obtained by The Hill, the Obama
campaign states, "We look forward to the meeting proceeding smoothly
-- and we're asking our supporters not to show up to demonstrate,
passionately as they feel about this campaign."

...

But the Obama campaign wants to avoid heated intraparty confrontations
that would attract national headlines and be replayed on the cable
news networks. Saturday's potential public relations nightmare comes
as the Obama campaign is taking steps to unify the party as the
Democratic primary process appears to be winding down.

Let's not make this a public relations nightmare for the Obama
campaign, so please circulate this diary on your Obama groups,
Facebook, Friendster, MySpace, and your e-mail circles within the
DC/MD/VA area. The more the word gets out there, that way Obama
supporters will know it's not in the best interest of the campaign to
protest the Clinton supporters at the RBC meeting.

It's what the Clinton campaign wants:

A public relations nightmare with photos of angry Obama supporters
yelling at angry Clinton supporters, thus setting up the meme about a
divided Democratic party, which prompts reporters to opine, "After the
way the two groups clashed together, will it ever be possible for
Obama to unite the groups when he's the nominee?" We really don't need
the hand-wringing from the media on this point. This is about the need
for Democratic unity now.

The Clinton campaign would love nothing more than to have our presence
there as angry Obama supporters to further antagonize their
supporters, which gives Hillary that rationale she needs to talk about
being oppressed by the Obama campaign in taking it to the convention.

Have media chattering about the fight between Clinton and Obama
supporters instead of the delegate allocation from the RBC meeting
which will be the real story here.

So, let's NOT give them what they want in terms of public relations.

And instead, let's do what we should do as supporters for the Obama campaign:

Voter registration drives. You can contact Jason with the Maryland For
Obama campaign at jason@marylandforobama.com to find out what events
are being held for the voter registration drives in Maryland. He also
may have information about voter registration drives in Virginia, as
that's a swing state that we might win in November.

Phone bank so we can work on reaching more people who may be receptive
to the message of change from Barack Obama, and find out which
supporters are likely to vote or not in November. Every voter matters.

Check your Barack Obama event page for events available in your community.

For more information about voter registration efforts in Northern
Virginia, please contact Chrisi, who helps run the Northern Virginia
effort for Barack Obama, at chrisimwest at gmail dot com.

And for those who have already pre-registered to attend the meeting,
please e-mail me at pleasehelpfreebarneythedog at gmail dot com, and
I've got about 30 people who've pre-registered to attend the RBC
meeting. It would be helpful to know who else is out there that has
pre-registered for the meeting, so we can all gather together as a
group to attend the RBC meeting.

For those who have pre-registered for the RBC meeting

Bring any recorders, cameras, and laptops since the Marriot Wardman
hotel has wireless access. As of now, it's not clear if the meeting
room, Salon 1, has wireless access and I've checked with the DNC and
am waiting to hear back from them.

Be peaceful, you can wear your Obama shirts but it would be far
preferable to wear normal clothing.

NO SIGNS. NO NOISEMAKERS. NO BANNERS, NO HANDOUTS are allowed
according to the organizers of the Rules and Bylaws Committee.

Be respectful.

Don't engage the Clinton supporters in a back-and-forth. Let them show
their support for Hillary Clinton.

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Hey, does anyone think that we could convince Edwards to campaign in the rest of the states with Barack?

By ! Arry Murphey-Frank-Foothills Area Manager CA CD4 - May 15th, 2008 at 10:39 am EDT

I was thinking that it would be great if John Edwards would campaign in the remaining states with Barack, especially in Kentucky. Edwards' presence could go a long way to solidifying Obama's inevitable nomination.

Does anyone think that it would be good to E-mail his campaign asking him to do so? I know that Kentucky may be too soon but hey, everything is worth a try!

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